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THEATRE GOSSIP #102: "Walking in a Winter Blunderland" Edition

It's Christmas time! The spirit has infected Broadway. Smiles are seen everywhere in Times Square ....

Except backstage at "The Anarchist." Expect Winger to give a juicy tell-all interview. Expect Patti to unfriend Winger.

Ho! Ho! Ho! Who wouldn't go to The Heiress? (Everyone,now. A big yawn on that one).

Scandalous gone - Thy will be done, O Lord.

PIPPIN!!! With Patina Miller as the Leading Player! Set in a circus! Will this be the dazzling revival ten or twelve people have been waiting for?

BARE opens. BARE closes???

Kathleen Turner's "Sister George" - all bark and no bite?

Chits Rivera! The sass, the class, the braying ass??

Tyler Maynard's Christmas Tree - is Harry Connick's wallet still under it?

LES MIZ - the second coming of the movie musical? Anne Hathaway Oscar also-ran or winner?

Better rush out and finished your shopping, kids - and don't forget those stocking stuffers!

by Anonymousreply 60012/28/2012

Ouch. BARE opened last night, but no Times review today?

by Anonymousreply 112/10/2012

This HAD to have been an homage to "Follies."

by Anonymousreply 212/10/2012

Everything I've heard about Pippin in Cambridge has been superlative.

by Anonymousreply 312/10/2012

Bare is getting very dismissive reviews.... & Damon Intrabartolo deserves to be dismissed!!! (how's that production of revenge of the nerds going Damon???)

by Anonymousreply 412/10/2012

LA Times on "Glengarry," "Anarchist," and Mamet.

by Anonymousreply 512/10/2012

Looks like BARE is the latest CARRIE. A second look and it still sucks.

by Anonymousreply 612/10/2012

FOkay, so I saw "Pippin" last night and have about a thousand thoughts on it, but let me begin by saying that this production is not only spectacular but deserving of a transfer and far better than anything that I have seen so far this season.

This production is far and above my favorite of the three "Paulus revivals" in the last few years. It is truly a collaborative effort between her, Chet Walker, and Gypsy Snider, but Paulus's focused hand is very apparent. There was a lot of discussion on here about whether or not the choreo is Fosse's original. There were many moments in this production that are exactly the original (parts of "Glory" being a very specific example, not just including the "Manson Trio" which now features Patina and two of the male players.) Many numbers, though, are now circus numbers which feature some Fosse-esque choreography by Chet Walker but mixed with circus/acrobat work done by Gypsy Snider and illusions by Paul Kieve.

I would have to see this production at least six times to have seen EVERYTHING that was going onstage during the large group numbers. There was so much circus work and stage magic being done constantly that it was impossible to see it all.

The sets and costumes are gorgeous, and the entire company was incredibly together and supportive.

Patina Miller is a star. I must admit I've always been sort of iffy about a female LP, but she is just too amazing to deny. From the first moment she steps onstage in "Magic to Do," she owns this production. She IS the Leading Player. This is an accolade-deserving performance that is powerful, sexy, and scary. All of her numbers were fantastic, but I loved her "Simple Joys" because it featured circus work with the rest of the players and there was something interesting about that concept.

I thought Matthew James Thomas was a fantastic Pippin. He is absolutely right for the character visually, and his acting was fantastic, and vocally he was wonderful. My issues with him are more technical than anything else. He does this peculiar thing when he's belting high at the ends of songs where he does a hunched squat and closes his eyes and grimaces, then stands up on cut-off and makes a face. It's weird. Maybe he picked it up at "Spider-Man," I don't know. Also, I understand that Pippin isn't a "dance role," but Mr. Thomas is not a dancer at all. "On the Right Track" begins as it should, with Pippin unsure of the steps and learning them from the LP. But the fact that he's not a dancer made me feel at the end when he's "full-out dancing" like I was watching my child in a recital. He looked uncomfortable and I felt uncomfortable and I just wanted him to commit to it more and stop staring at his feet.

Terrence Mann and Charlotte d'Amboise were great. Mann is in amazing voice as always, and he was a perfect Charlemagne. d'Amboise is sexy as always, dances and sings her face off. With true professionals like these, I never really doubted that they would be great as Charlemagne and Fastrada so it was more "I'm not surprised they're fantastic" than anything else.

I find the second act of "Pippin" to be at times rushed and weird, but Rachel Bay Jones offers up a beautifully sung and particularly intimate performance of Catherine. She has to hurry the plot along at times, but that's the nature of the book and I found her very human while doing it.

Andrea Martin, is of course, superb. She spits out the jokes to make sure we get them all, which we do and which we love. Also, her "Not Time at All" goes from being fun and funny to absolutely awing. I won't ruin it but Ms. Martin is required to do something that I can assure you that she never thought she'd be doing at this point (or any point) of her career, and I just love her and blah blah blah she's perfect as always.

I was particularly struck by Erik Altemus as Lewis. I foresee him having a very strong future. I know he's been off-Bway and seen regionally, but he has got that "something" and I thought his Lewis was, next to Patina, maybe the richest characterization on the stage.

by Anonymousreply 712/10/2012

r7, are there any cut songs, even the small ones like "Welcome Home," "There He Was" or "Prayer for a Duck?"

I love Pippin so much - one of the best experiences of my life was a small regional production hundreds of years ago, but I hate, hate, hate having a female leading player. I feel like it puts a stake in the masculinity of the piece. I know that's a stupid word to use to describe a Broadway musical, but there is a male kinship between the LP and Pippin that I firmly do not and cannot believe could occur with a female LP. Pippin is a straight guy musical.

by Anonymousreply 812/10/2012

Exciting r7!!!

by Anonymousreply 912/10/2012

Congratulations to Kathie Lee are in order. The final humiliating slap in the face to that bitch is that her super bomb Scandalous had the prestigious honor of being the lowest grossing show on Broadway last week. I bet Hoda and Frank are happy it flopped so that they don't have to hear about it anymore-and neither do we.

by Anonymousreply 1012/10/2012

"The Deep Throat Sex Scandal" is coming to LA. With old-timer porn stars Herschel Savage, Veronica Hart, and Ron Jeremy. Did anyone see this when it played NYC?

by Anonymousreply 1112/10/2012

I saw Pippin on Saturday. I have to agree with the previous post, it's pretty spectacular! If this does transfer, Patina Miller will surely be nominated for a Tony. This could be a big hit. Loved it so much I'm seeing it again next week.

by Anonymousreply 1212/10/2012

Whoever composes these OPs is a gift to the DL. I wish we were friends IRL!

by Anonymousreply 1312/10/2012

After the dreadful "Porgy And Bess", Paulus has nowhere to go but up.

by Anonymousreply 1412/10/2012

Has Kathie Lee discussed her bomb on TV? (It reminds me of when Libby Wolfson (Andrea Martin) wrote that musical on SCTV and then did discussed "Coping with Failure" on the previews---any SCTV fans?)

by Anonymousreply 1512/10/2012

[quote]Whoever composes these OPs is a gift to the DL.

Yes, it bears repeating: OP, you're a treasure!

by Anonymousreply 1612/10/2012


by Anonymousreply 1812/11/2012

yeah, r14, Directing a Tony Award Winner for best revival of a musical would be a low point in any directors career, I imagine.

by Anonymousreply 1912/11/2012

Seems Chita did do solo albums in the 60s . . . and they're being re-released.

by Anonymousreply 2012/11/2012

OP, Are you saying that Harry Connick plays for both teams? Please say it's so.

by Anonymousreply 2112/11/2012

She did, R15. Basically, she said that she didn't measure success in dollar signs. There was one guy named Jacob who saw the show nine times and it changed his life. And because of him, it was all worth it.

Let's all give Jacob a hand. Thanks to him, a bunch of Republican, union-busting scumbag investors are nine million dollars poorer. God works in mysterious ways.

by Anonymousreply 2212/11/2012

Personally, I think "Walking In A Winter Blunderland" is very funny...

by Anonymousreply 2312/11/2012

as is

[quote]Will this be the dazzling revival ten or twelve people have been waiting for?

The first time I've laughed out loud at something on DL in weeks.

by Anonymousreply 2412/11/2012

I can see Diane Paulus' career taking the same trajectory as Julie Taymor's in more ways than one.

by Anonymousreply 2512/11/2012

R19, As if winning a Tony Award necessarily means a show is good. PORGY AND BESS was a disaster, artistically and financially.

by Anonymousreply 2612/11/2012

Diane Paulus is a turd.

Pippin is a turd.

Turds abound.

by Anonymousreply 2712/11/2012

Oh please, Audra would have won that Porgy and Bess Tony if Jeffrey Richards had directed the revival himself.

by Anonymousreply 2812/11/2012

Let the haters hate, OP. You are a treasure, a sweet and precious lamb. Keep on truckin'!

by Anonymousreply 2912/11/2012

R26 In retrospect, the colorblind casting of Audra Lindley and Norm Fell as the leads in an attempt to bring in "The Ropers" fans was probably a mistake.

by Anonymousreply 3012/11/2012


by Anonymousreply 3112/11/2012

Is Jeffrey Richards gay?

by Anonymousreply 3212/11/2012

something to remember about Chita Rivera: you will not find anyone anywhere with a abd things to say about her after meeting her or working with. The best of the best (fosse, sondheim, kander/ebb, carol burnett, and even guys like the beatles) all wanted to work with her. Shame about The Visit as it truly is her best acting work....but often she doesn't have great taste in material.

Everything she's done post spider woman just doesn't cut it, but that says more about her collaborators then her.

by Anonymousreply 3312/11/2012

Beloved and fortunate NYC theater gays, are any of you buying tickets - starting tomorrow? - to he Liza Minelli/Alan Cumming Town Hall concerts? I would LOVE to be there!

by Anonymousreply 3412/11/2012

When Chita was in a Sondheim show, she was probably cast by Robbins. When did Sondheim work with her after WSS?

by Anonymousreply 3512/11/2012

R23, I think OP's reference to Harry Connick's wallet being under Tyler Maynard's bed is that yler Maynard, as referenced several time in a Bway thread some months ago, may be a thief, vis a vis Bway dressing rooms, if I remember correctly. Harry Connick Jr seems pretty boringly straight (but you never know...)

by Anonymousreply 3612/11/2012

DL fav Shia LaBoeff is making his Broadway debut!

by Anonymousreply 3712/11/2012

Gang, please read! Important news!

by Anonymousreply 3812/11/2012

What's the deal with the BARE composer, Damon something-or-other? Was he even involved in this production? I heard he was recently in prison. Anyone know anything about him?

by Anonymousreply 3912/11/2012



by Anonymousreply 4012/11/2012

Dear Karen Ziemba, TONY winning actress/dancer/singer/banjo player,

Who gives a hoot about the time tourists and suburban fraus wait on that TKTS line. Why is this considered newsworthy? And if you are so concerned, why not break out the banjo and entertain them yourself?

by Anonymousreply 4112/11/2012

How will hot-tempered Alec Baldwin and Shia LeBeouf ever be able to work together?

by Anonymousreply 4212/11/2012

Because it's B*R*O*A*D*W*A*Y and Christmas.... R41. The most wonderful time and the most wonderful district in the world!


by Anonymousreply 4312/11/2012

Will Mr. LeBeouf take to the stage before or after he supposedly has real sex in a movie?

by Anonymousreply 4412/11/2012

You didn't hear it from me, BUT, Patti LuPone is secretly pushing Lonny Price to find someone who can adapt The Cherry Orchard into a musical.

LuPone was overheard saying "I want a role that those bitches Bernadette and Buckley can't play. After all, I studied with Houseman at Julliard. I can play the classics." LuPone is hoping for an 11:00 number ala "Send in the Clowns".

by Anonymousreply 4512/11/2012

How many times have they attempted to make a musical out of The Cherry Orchard? The Seagull?

by Anonymousreply 4612/11/2012

Can't wait for those singing and dancing peasant choruses.

by Anonymousreply 4712/11/2012

Why is Rock of Ages doing so well week after week . . . groupies, a la Rent?

by Anonymousreply 4812/11/2012

Lincoln Center Theatre presents


By Lynne Ahrens and Stephen Flaherty

Directed by Lonny Price

by Anonymousreply 4912/11/2012

R48, it is a fun show (and I hate 80s music), they serve alcohol during the show, it is very straight guy friendly which makes it a great date show, it is a small theater, because the music is "known" it is very popular with tourists who don't speak english.

by Anonymousreply 5012/11/2012

"Let's get that JoAnna Garcia for our new series."

by Anonymousreply 5112/11/2012

Oops. Sorry, wrong thread.

by Anonymousreply 5212/11/2012

r45 - The sad thing is that role would be perfect for Buckley.

by Anonymousreply 5312/11/2012

"Can't wait for those singing and dancing peasant choruses."

Peasant chorus: Anastasia! Anastasia! Anastasia!

LuPone: Don't cry for me Mikal Trofiyasha Ostenspankyou, the truth is my cherry orchard is the pits. Though it may get harder, for you to see me, I'm for the farmers, but moving to Moscow.

by Anonymousreply 5412/11/2012

R54 "You'll be swell ... you'll be great, you'll be cherry preserves on a plate ..."

by Anonymousreply 5512/11/2012

I don't know if r45 is serious or not, but LuPone strikes me as wrong for Ranevskaya. She doesn't exactly communicate the qualities of a vulnerability and heartbreak, unlike, say, Dianne Weist, Irene Worth or Judi Dench onstage, Charlotte Rampling in film or even Marsha Mason on recording (she's heartbreakingly wonderful in the L.A. Theater Works broadcast), to name just a few.

by Anonymousreply 5612/11/2012

I saw "Orchard" with Annette Bening and Alfred Molina in LA. My first exposure to the play. It was definitely worth seeing.

by Anonymousreply 5712/11/2012

"Hair" was a fluke. Diane Paulus is a hack and a shit to work with as well. Ask any actor who's appeared in one of her shows who isn't the star.

Very much like Taymor, she treats actors like shit and thinks she's God. Fuck both of them.

by Anonymousreply 5812/11/2012

Evita closing Jan 26th.

by Anonymousreply 5912/11/2012

Bo Bice, Alexander Gemignani and More Will Lead PUMP BOYS AND DINETTES, Opening April 8

by Anonymousreply 6012/11/2012

Actually, r58, I was lucky enough to work with her on the Donkey Show in Cambridge. I was cast as the DJ (primarily on the basis of my DJing) and had no professional acting experience. Despite it being a year into the show's run with the performances being taught by a capable assistant director, and Diane extremely busy working on Porgy and Bess and Prometheus Bound at the time, she came to my rehearsals and first performance and made a point to give me feedback & work with me on my performance. She never condescended to me despite my lack of experience. She often came by to watch the show and offer kind but helpful feedback and always joined the cast in our performance warm-up circle. So i don't know what reputation you are talking about. I think she's pretty awesome.

by Anonymousreply 6112/11/2012

R56, Doll, who said I was playing Ranevskaya? Leave those girlie roles for Julie Andrews. I'm playing Boris.

by Anonymousreply 6212/11/2012

DROOD most likely will follow, R59. It's not selling at all.

by Anonymousreply 6312/11/2012

I also don't know if R45 was serious or not, but at any rate, both Patti LuPone and Betty Buckley are about 25-30 years too old for Ranevskaya in THE CHERRY ORCHARD.

by Anonymousreply 6412/11/2012

"both Patti LuPone and Betty Buckley are about 25-30 years too old for Ranevskaya in THE CHERRY ORCHARD."

Bitch, please. If Streisand can play (Grand)Mama Rose on the screen, then I can play some Russian dame on the stage.

by Anonymousreply 6512/11/2012

Shut up, Patti LuPone!

by Anonymousreply 6612/11/2012

i wonder if EVITA will recoup.

What will Elena Roger do?

by Anonymousreply 6712/11/2012

Rivera ia admittedly a wonderful woman but she's no actress. She has a strange habit of turning any role into something of a villain. Perhaps it's her harsh features or cold speaking voice but she can never get all warm and fuzzy with the audiences.

She was bound to the ethnic roles like Moreno, but Rita has proven her greatness and versatility as an actress. She got her Tony award for a non-musical, something Rivera will never do.

by Anonymousreply 6812/11/2012

Elena will go home to her beloved Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrcccccccccccchhhhhhhhhheeeeeeenntina where she is loved. Ricky will travel far from Broadway to make a zillion dollars. Michael will continue to have a fine career. The show stunk; everyone knew it, there was no reason to replace.

by Anonymousreply 6912/11/2012

Ricky is ZORBA

by Anonymousreply 7012/11/2012

I like Chit, not Rita.

by Anonymousreply 7112/11/2012

But even in her youth, Rita could never have danced (or for that matter, even sung) Anita on stage, FWIW.

by Anonymousreply 7212/11/2012

Uh, r68, Rita's Tony was for The Ritz, a "non-musical" in which she both sang and danced. She was hilarious in it, but it was hardly heavy dramatic lifting, which your post implies.

by Anonymousreply 7312/11/2012


Wow. I had never really thought about it but Chita has *never* come across as warm in any role I've seen her in (and I am going as far back as THE RINK) She's not Bebe cold an I am certainly too young to have seen WSS STORY or BIRDIE , but even Anita, easily the best role in WSS and always the audience favorite, isn't exactly warm and fuzzy. When I have been around her off stage , she is much warmer one on one but I always feel like I am in presence of an icon. I was once with with her after a show and saw her charm and hold court with all the theater students around her (she seems to still hold the same appeal for them we felt back when I was a theater major) . She did however wink at me in what I perceived to be a "be with you as soon as I am finished with the kids". Always gracious, always friendly but no, I have never felt she was warm. Very nice, yes.Supportive, yes. Encouraging ,yes. Warm and fuzzy, no.

Thinking about her in DROOD and in contrast the one time I met the original Puffer, Cleo Laine (and John Dankworth), Dame Cleo was beyond gracious, and off handed comment about her tour in ITW and she began talking to me about her sister who had died during the tour. A very different, one time off experience but I think telling. She and Dankworth were both just lovely , very down to earth and onstage she exuded charm in a way Chita never has.

Always feel like with Chita, there is always reticence and she is reserved but she is really the last of the greats

Whereas Verdon, I think always projected a vulnerability that Chita just doesn't have. You always hear she coached Shirley on CHARITY which I think says a lot and it sounds like Fosse put her through hell. Didn't she help Liza find clothes for Sally Bowles? What was her take on Reinking? THAT always seemed...awkward. Her whole relationship with Fosse seemed borderline masochistic and her cutting numbers at will seemed self indulgent, neurotic or just lazy.

Anyone know or work with Gwen? Any stories?

by Anonymousreply 7412/11/2012

R36 is right.

by Anonymousreply 7512/11/2012

Doesn't Rita say they originally wanted her for WSS but she had a film contract? Robbins would have known her from THE KING & I

by Anonymousreply 7612/11/2012

I though winter blunder land referenced Broadway. I mean, pretty much everything that opened so far this season has been a blunder.

by Anonymousreply 7712/11/2012

Cherry pies oughta be Lu!

by Anonymousreply 7812/11/2012

R74, maybe Chita just finds you insufferable?

by Anonymousreply 7912/11/2012

I see Charlotte Greenwood's in the house...

by Anonymousreply 8012/11/2012

You didn't hear it from me, BUT, next season Kathie Lee Gifford is planning to bring to the Broadway stage the story of Vestel Goodman. Vestel was the Ethel Merman of gospel music. But under the mile high hair, the excess weight, the family feuds, the snake handling and speaking in tongues was a woman longing to have a solo career. Trapped in a family singing group, Vestel longed to stand center stage and belt out "Vestel's Turn". Her secret wish was to be parodied by a drag queen in New York City's Greenwich Village. KLG Productions Presents "Vestel!"

by Anonymousreply 8112/12/2012

The was pretty corn Pone, r78.

by Anonymousreply 8212/12/2012

John Doyle is directing the PUMP BOYS revival.

Finally a show where actors playing instruments makes sense - this one was originally written that way!

by Anonymousreply 8312/12/2012

R68 and R74

Them's fightin' words. You talk trash about Chita and you have the dowager musical theatre queens (including myself) to face--and it won't be pretty.

I actually find her very warm as a performer, and not villainous at all. And while I realize it an anomaly, her "Dancer's Life" was a very warm, generous performance. I don't think she begs for affection like some performers (whom I nonetheless loved, such as Mary Martin) did, but there is such a sense of the pleasure of giving to an audience.

And while I never got to see her in "Birdie" (nor was I in the cast of "Our American Cousin" the night Lincoln was shot), there is a real everyday, down to earth quality in her work on the recording that is, to use a word my students use and which I hate, "relatable."

Plus, she spoke to me from the stage when she did her set-piece in "Nine" (when she asks about the yellow roses in her dressing room). I was stunned and bewitched in my Mariest of Mary moments.

And I actually think she is a wonderful actress--one of the more naturalistic ones who can still shift into high musical theatre style when she sings and dances. I would have loved to see her in "The House of Bernarda Alba," when she did it a number of years ago in Los Angeles. Granted, the opposite of a warm and fuzzy role, but one requiring great artistry, craft, and depth. And one of my former teachers directed her in "The Visit" (at the Goodman)--wish I could have seen that, because another of my profs, who has little use for musical theatre (she's more of an opera fan), said that Rivera was remarkable.

"They say that Chita's a bad mother.." "SHUT Your MOUTH!!!"

by Anonymousreply 8412/12/2012

Oof. Bare. I liked the idea of the show when I heard about it. Why does Stafford Arima work? Awful. Just awful. It looked like a cheap tour of his CARRIE mess. Go back to stage managing.

by Anonymousreply 8512/12/2012

Still can't see Chita being vulnerable onstage. No 110 in the Shade, She Loves Me (except as Ilona), or Sound of Music for her.

Let's face it, she's an excellent supporting performer. Like Helen Gallagher.

But could she have done Evita?

by Anonymousreply 8612/12/2012

Rest easy, Viva Forever, the Spice Girls musical, has been unanimously panned.

Whoever did the arrangements should be slapped repeatedly. Listen to the first song in the highlights clip.

by Anonymousreply 8712/12/2012

Actually, if Evita had been done around 1960 - yeah, I could see her in it. And she would have aced "Buenos Aires," the complicated choreography of which proved treacherous to many a singing but non-dancing Eva (like LuPone).

by Anonymousreply 8812/12/2012

Aren't the two leads totally nude in BARE?

by Anonymousreply 8912/12/2012

[quote]Rest easy, Viva Forever, the Spice Girls musical, has been unanimously panned.

Doesn't look any better or worse than all jukebox musicals. Jennifer Saunders wrote the book?

by Anonymousreply 9012/12/2012

During a performance of The Rink in 1984, in the scene where Chita tosses a can of beer to one of the demolition workers from up above, the actor missed the catch, the can hit the stage, bounced and landed at my feet where I was sitting in the front row. Having seen the show before and knowing that the beer can was needed as a prop for the remaining scene, I reached down and threw it back on stage. Chita then looked directly at me, smiled and winked.

by Anonymousreply 9112/12/2012

Saunder's book has been getting the worst of the criticisms. I'm not at all surprised - the last few Ab Fabs haven't been as good, and a musical about a thinly veiled X-Factor competition and 'British yoof' never sounded like a good idea to begin with. I wonder if Craymer forced the premise on her and she had to work with it? Then again, what sort of plot WOULD make sense for a Spice Girls musical?

I unfortunately saw the Take That musical, "Never Forget", which was about forming a Take That tribute act to save a pub from going bankrupt. It was one of the worst nights I've had in a theatre.

by Anonymousreply 9212/12/2012

Ah, R81! I remember the Happy Goodmans from years ago on TBN, Jan & Paul's network.

by Anonymousreply 9312/12/2012

EVITA not recasting-duh, called that a month ago

BO BICE-thats what Bway has become. Sad.

by Anonymousreply 9412/12/2012

{Aren't the two leads totally nude in BARE?}

Nope. One of them is in boxers. The other has his shirt off. Neither is anything to see, really. And it doesn't begin to make up for the show itself. Crappy.

by Anonymousreply 9512/12/2012

R74, Chita is very nice, supportive and friendly but not warm? That doesn't seem to make sense. I have found her to be warm on and off stage. It seems like you did not see her in Chicago opposite Verdon. Verdon remains the best Roxie. But Verdon was not a bit warm or vulnerable in the role and Chita came off like Mother Teresa opposite her as Velma (best Velma still).

by Anonymousreply 9612/12/2012

Anyone who can still high kick at 80 is aces in my book - so what if she can't do a Cockney accent?

by Anonymousreply 9712/12/2012

[quote] so what if she can't do a Cockney accent?

Thank you!

by Anonymousreply 9812/12/2012

That's fightin' talk r96!

by Anonymousreply 9912/12/2012

Chita is a great musical comedy performer but she isn't an actress. She can still thrill in her musical numbers but she can't bring the crescendo to a peak by dialogue. She can engage an audience through song and dance only.

The earlier point about Moreno and "The Ritz" was that it was an award for non-Musical and Chita will never accomplish that. Listen to the OCA of WSS and it almost sounds as if she's doing Googie Gomez, straight. Her accent, if she weren't partially Hispanic, would be laughable.

I've seen Chita in two non-musical roles, "The Rose Tattoo" and "Hot L Baltimore" and felt she was not only terrible, she was miscast. Then I realized that Chita is always miscast because she can only do approximations of herself, like many great Broadway divas. Maybe that's why she's such a cold actress. She's continually struggling to find a connection with the character and if the actress can't connect with the part, she certainly can't connect with the audience.

by Anonymousreply 10012/12/2012

What' the read over at PICNIC? How are Mare Winningham and Ellen Burstyn getting along?

And what happened to LAST DANCE the Paul JAbara musical?

by Anonymousreply 10112/12/2012

R100, you are an idiot. On the original cast album of WEST SIDE STORY, Chita as Anita barely has any accent at all, except for literally one or two lines where she does a broadly exaggerated Puerto Rican accent for effect. So either your memory is shot or you have no ear for dialect whatsoever.

by Anonymousreply 10212/12/2012

Chita goes in and out of the accent with hilarious inconsistency throughout the OCA. But actually, your argument strengthens the contention that she isn't an actress.

I love where she sings "Just wait, Maria", the first part sung with pencil clinching diction, and "Maria", sung with a bad accent. What's ironic is that she doesn't even sound Hispanic when she sings the name.

by Anonymousreply 10312/12/2012

Oh fuck this Chita shit. Move on to something of interest.

by Anonymousreply 10412/12/2012

Thanks R104.

So was there any chorus boy in EVITA whom Max did not sleep with?

by Anonymousreply 10512/12/2012

Does anybody know anything about The Cooper Company? They seem to be hiring a new manager every month.

by Anonymousreply 10612/12/2012

Has anyone seen PICNIC ??? Madge is the pretty one!

by Anonymousreply 10712/12/2012

The forthcoming Breakfast at Tiffany's is advertising as a "world premiere". It's not the same adaptation as the Anna Friel one in London?

by Anonymousreply 10812/12/2012

No it's a totally different adap, the Anna Friel one got very mixed reviews.

I'm not sure how this will work on stage. The novella is basically a series of episodes, minimal structure, and you get to know next to nothing about the narrator. As totally different as the film is in many ways, it does get around the looseness of the novel, to an extent.

Someone should take another crack at a musical version.

by Anonymousreply 10912/12/2012


by Anonymousreply 11012/12/2012


I could play John Holmes!

by Anonymousreply 11112/12/2012

Fosse's Chicago was very dark and cynical and Gwen's Roxie was not a nice character-she was a conniving bitch. I remember there was a line where she said something like-"it's better than being a Mick lawyer like you" to Billy Flynn that got gasps from the house. Chita's Velma was actually the lovable one that you rooted for. I heard that she said she thinks she has one more show left in her. Hope it's The Visit. Why doesn't multi zillionaire Kander put some $$$ into it as a final farewell to her.

by Anonymousreply 11212/12/2012

Crappy Evita was lucky to squeak out a 10 month run. I cannot believe that the reviewer from the NY Post and others gave it a rave. They, like the director, didn't have a clue. Glad I was comped in.

by Anonymousreply 11312/12/2012

Tom Hanks and Peter Scolari reunited in "Lucky Guy" Holland Taylor simultaneously in "Ann" at The Beaumont What about me?--does Cicely Tyson need an understudy in "Trip to Bountiful?"

by Anonymousreply 11412/12/2012

Possible Holiday Strike by Broadway Unions

by Anonymousreply 11512/12/2012

Does anyone remember Chita as Billie Dawn in a tour of Born Yesterday back in the 70's? Yikes, never saw it, but shocked it happened at all.

by Anonymousreply 11612/12/2012

It's wonderful these guys want to get married. They both do great work for fundraising for progressive causes....but asking for on-line donations to pay for ones wedding is pretty crass.

"Both of us work for non-profits as organizers working to make the world a better place. We are both children of single moms, both of whom depend on outside help to make ends meet. While we are pinching pennies left and right to make this happen, we could use some help. Are there more important things you could donate to? absolutely. But if you have a buck or two left after you do that to help a couple guys celebrate, it would be more than appreciated."

by Anonymousreply 11712/12/2012

I'll never forget walking down Sloane Street in Chelsea in London one Christmas Eve, glancing in a window and seeing Chita sitting on a couch rigidly upright, watching something on TV. She was doing Kiss Of The Spider Woman in the West End at the time.

by Anonymousreply 11812/12/2012

That's all well and good R117, but what do they think about Chita?

by Anonymousreply 11912/12/2012

[quote]Why doesn't multi zillionaire Kander put some $$$ into it as a final farewell to her.


by Anonymousreply 12012/12/2012

She's to sing at the wedding, R119?

Who thinks that the "Glass Menagerie" will go from ART to Broadway really quick? I do. Hopefully without Zachary Quinto, though. The National Endowment for the Arts gave the ART production of "The Glass Menagerie" a 50k donation and it is not even running yet. No bull.

by Anonymousreply 12112/12/2012

I loved Chita's appearances on the old Hollywood Palace especially "Pretty For Me". If you think today's dancers are nellie....oh mary!

by Anonymousreply 12212/12/2012

What happened to Umoh in Book of Mormon Chicago?

by Anonymousreply 12312/12/2012

Verdon was pretty great as Roxie and true, there wasn't anything lovable about the character. You did root for Chita's Velma. The closest actress in the revival to come that close to the original Verdon portrayal-- Sandy Duncan. She was terrific.. better than Reinking, better than Shubert Alley sweetheart Karen Z.

by Anonymousreply 12412/12/2012

[quote]I could play John Holmes! by: Tyler Maynard

Yeah, if John Holmes is reconceptualized as a transvestite queen with a big dick.

by Anonymousreply 12512/12/2012

What was the story with Duncan in Chicago? She was supposedly the best Roxie of all in the revival, but wasn't her run incredibly short?

by Anonymousreply 12612/12/2012

Too bad Barry Bostwick is too old to play John Holmes now.

by Anonymousreply 12712/12/2012

Barry certainly has the right appendage for the part.

by Anonymousreply 12812/12/2012

R126, Sandy was supposed to star opposite Ruthie Henshall, who was then making her Bway debut. Sandy was thrilled about doing the show with Ruthie, as she wanted her 'return' to have some kind of buzz around it.

Then she broke her foot during a very brief shakedown out of town (I think she was only supposed to do one or two stops, then swing into NY). By the time she recovered, she only played the role for a week or so before Ruthie left the cast.

The cheapo Weisslers (who had been negotiating with other stars to replace RH) then decided to save $ and just put Mamie Duncan Gibbs (who was a reliable Velma cover but hardly a name) on opposite Sandy for the remainder of her run, which was exactly NOT what Sandy wanted (she is a complete doll, and where many actresses would have loved being the only name in the show, Sandy wanted another star to work with).

She was brilliant in the show, but it was ultimately a disappointing experience for her.

by Anonymousreply 12912/12/2012

Poisonous Bare... sorry Damon but obscurity will remain your best friend

by Anonymousreply 13012/12/2012

R126- Don't know about the Broadway run which may have been a couple of months. Prior to that, Duncan was on the tour. She hurt her ankle, (maybe broke it?) and was out of the show. Ann Reinking replaced her. Reinking had gained quite a bit of weight. Friends who saw her said her costume was a long black nightshirt.

by Anonymousreply 13112/12/2012


What's wrong with a long nightshirt?


Ruthie Henshall is a star?

by Anonymousreply 13212/12/2012

Just to change the subject:

Does anyone know anything about a new show David Leveaux was directing about the early history of The Beatles and Brian Epstein? I thought it was slated to open in Toronto this year and it sounded promising.

by Anonymousreply 13312/12/2012

The "new" adaption of BREAKFAST AT TIFFANY'S is by out gay writer Richard Greenberg.

Yet again, the male lead is depicted as being in love with Holly Golightly (like in the film). But in the original novalla, he was gay.


by Anonymousreply 13412/13/2012

Breakfast at Tiffany's didn't get mixed reviews in the UK. It got terrible reviews. That's why it's been rewritten by Richard Greenberg.

But it was supposed to open on Broadway this past fall. Unsurprisingly, they couldn't find a star who was unafraid (or stupid enough) to play iconic Holly Golightly (in spite of the play's differences from the film).

by Anonymousreply 13512/13/2012

Saw Drood last night. How lucky is Orfeh?

by Anonymousreply 13612/13/2012

I love Chita. As recently as NINE, I found her thrilling. In Drood, she was not only at sea with the character, but it was the first time I ever went, "Oh, she's old now."

by Anonymousreply 13712/13/2012

What does Orfeh have to do with Drood? Did she join the cast?

by Anonymousreply 13812/13/2012

Hunter going into Bunheads. He has zero TV and film credits. Is this something Sutton negotiated into her contract? Like when she demanded that Christian Borle be cast in Millie?

by Anonymousreply 13912/13/2012

The original novella "Breakfast at Tiffany's" has notable similarities to Christopher Isherwood's "Berlin Stories," in which the male narrator also has a platonic friendship with an eccentric, promiscuous girl (the romance in "Cabaret," like the one in the film and stage versions of "Breakfast," was dreamed up by the adapters.) I always thought of Holly Golightly as a self-portrait by Capote of himself as a young hustler/apprentice writer, similar to the character in "Answered Prayers," disguised as a Sally Bowles-like female.

by Anonymousreply 14012/13/2012


by Anonymousreply 14112/13/2012

The ART Pippin may be great in performance but it sure looks dreary and predictable in the production photos on

by Anonymousreply 14212/13/2012


by Anonymousreply 14312/14/2012

So closing in January are:

GRACE (announced), CHAPLIN (announced), EVITA (announced), PETER & THE STARFUCKER (announced)

THE HEIRESS (not announced yet), VIRGINIA WOOF (not announced yet)

What else?

by Anonymousreply 14412/14/2012

right, r136? boy looks like he's got big dick face.

by Anonymousreply 14512/14/2012

He and Chita were chosen the lovers the night I saw it.

He won the vote by stripping down to a bare chest during the voting - boy is built like a pron star, and he's going commando under those tight pants.

Lucky lucky Orfeh.

by Anonymousreply 14612/14/2012

Orfeh's in Drood? Orfeh's dating the boy in Drood? What does Orfeh have to do with anything?

by Anonymousreply 14712/14/2012

Who is the actor referenced in the above posts?

by Anonymousreply 14812/14/2012

OK, I'll be the first one to give in -- I can't take it anymore.

by Anonymousreply 14912/14/2012

Andy Karl is hot. I saw him in Altar Boyz with DL favorite Tyler Maynard and Scott Porter (who left the Boyz to join Friday Night Lights).

That's Andy as Luke (the one in the basketball jersey) showing off his arms and shoulders.

by Anonymousreply 15012/14/2012

I saw the London BREAKFAST AT TIFFANYS. It wasn't very good. Anna Friel tried and Joe Cross was quite good in the male lead..but the show just laid there.

by Anonymousreply 15112/14/2012

I'm lovin' how the kids on Broadway World are shitting in their pants over every bad review for LES MIZ. Reading that thread is like watching a tiny, gay Karl Rove go through his election night death throes all over again.

by Anonymousreply 15212/14/2012

Breakfast at Tiffanys--is it me, or does this just sound like a non-starter?

by Anonymousreply 15312/14/2012

Sandy Duncan was an excellent Roxie-with a very distinctive and bold point of view. She felt she was not well treated by the producers and not promoted effectively in terms of press and marketing

by Anonymousreply 15412/14/2012

But Breakfast at Tiffany's has just announced the addition of.....GEORGE WENDT! their illustrious cast. And playing a bartender!! How can that not excite audiences??

by Anonymousreply 15512/14/2012

War Horse is also closing in January and Dead Accounts will be close behind. I have a feeling that this year will see Mama Mia, Mary Poppins, Annie, Spidey, and Nice Work kick the bucket. Spring season will be popping with hits with prices going even higher. Cinderella will be the first flop.

by Anonymousreply 15612/14/2012

[quote] Orfeh's in Drood? Orfeh's dating the boy in Drood? What does Orfeh have to do with anything?

Try and keep up. Orfeh is married to Andy Karl, who is in Drood.

by Anonymousreply 15712/14/2012

Now that Glengarry has finally "opened" it can officially close on January 20th.

But Orphans STARRING SHIA LABOEUF is taking The Schoenfeld.

by Anonymousreply 15812/14/2012

That Andy Karl is lucky!

by Anonymousreply 15912/14/2012

Thanks for putting things in perspective, r142 -- it's the photographs that really matter, after all.

by Anonymousreply 16012/14/2012

Still waiting for visual vericata of the Maynard main vein

by Anonymousreply 16112/14/2012

[quote] Still waiting for visual vericata of the Maynard main vein

Became a backer of Wonderland!

by Anonymousreply 16212/14/2012

Disney is planning on closing Mary Poppins much later in 2013. They're bringing in Aladdin after it's tryout in Canada. Big surprise I know.

by Anonymousreply 16312/14/2012


by Anonymousreply 16412/14/2012

Somewhat theatre related- KLG appears drunker than usual this morning on Today. She was just doing a segment with a HOT tall guy from Gilt Groupe and she was holding onto the counter like the room was spinning around her. Maybe some self medicating after the PTSD of Scandalous closing?

by Anonymousreply 16512/14/2012

You didn't hear it from, BUT, Elaine Paige recently watched the dvd "An American Tale". She so fell in love with the song "Somewhere Out There" that she is begging Andrew Lloyd Webber to put up the money to bring the show to the stage starring Elaine as Fieval.

by Anonymousreply 16612/14/2012

Those Pippin make it look worse than community theatre. Oooh, Pippin set in a circus! How edgy and new, that has never been done before! I bet it has women jumping through hoops of fire and acrobats. Snore.

I've been waiting for years for a great reinvented real production of Pippin, and this crap is all we get. The circus motif has been played out since before Pippin opened in 1972. It's even staler now then ever. How cheap can you get?

by Anonymousreply 16712/14/2012

Sorry, I was referring to the pics

by Anonymousreply 16812/14/2012

R153, it's "Truman Capote's Breakfast at Tiffany's." Yes, that's the official title of the show -- even though it was written/adapted by Richard Greenberg. I guess the powers that be felt "Richard Greenberg's Breakfast at Tiffany's" wouldn't sell many tickets...

by Anonymousreply 16912/14/2012

Those costumes for Pippin look meh. Hard to top the brilliant and humorous originals by Patricia Zipprodt. They should retitle it Cirque de Soleil's Pippin. Theo looks as old as Pippin. Good to see Stephanie Pope still dancing. Is there a No No Nanette number where they walk on those big balls? Hope it is better than it looks in those pix.

by Anonymousreply 17012/14/2012

Charlotte does Fastrada. Boy, that must have taken months of brainstorming to come up with.

by Anonymousreply 17112/14/2012

LOL R171

by Anonymousreply 17212/14/2012

It may be a Pippin three ring circus but it has to be better than that shit Eric Rosen and his husband Claybourne Elder sprang on audiences earlier this fall.

by Anonymousreply 17312/14/2012

Well, hang on. Eric Rosen and his hubby will be back with VENICE at the Public.

by Anonymousreply 17412/14/2012

But is it better than TRON/PIPPIN?

by Anonymousreply 17512/14/2012

Sandy Duncan was one of the better Roxies....she was hurt, confused by the situation she had gotten herself in, but you could see the vicious and disturbed mental state just under the surface. Danced it beautifully.

However, the BEST Roxie I ever saw...Chita Rivera. She did the revival in London, Toronto, and Vegas. Absolute perfection: warm, funny, heartbreaking, and was still able out-Fosse everyone else on the stage. Her Roxie monologue has never been bettered. She was helped a stellar cast too...Ben Vereen's Billy was perfectly slick and smarmy, and Ute Lemeper's ice queen insane Velma.

Anyway, to whichever poster above said rivera can't play warm. She absolutely can...or could as of 1999.

by Anonymousreply 17612/14/2012

Mr. and Mrs. Rosen's show at the Public is a Lab production-- not a real production--that only runs a week or two.


by Anonymousreply 17712/14/2012

[quote]I've been waiting for years for a great reinvented real production of Pippin

Jesus christ, how sad.

by Anonymousreply 17812/14/2012

Sorry, but I do not understand the fuss over Andy Karl.

He wasn't even the hottest guy in ALTAR BOYZ.

by Anonymousreply 17912/14/2012

I am kinda loving the OCR of Leap of Faith. Why was the show so reviled? The OCR of Chaplin is tremendously blah. The OCR of Forbidden Broadway Alive and Kicking is a much fun in spots. Looking forward to the OCR of Giant Will the ever be an OCR of Scandalous?

by Anonymousreply 18012/14/2012

It's An American TAIL, (R166) - Elaine.

It's really just a continuation of Yentl in America with a mouse as Barbra.

Elaine can do the concept album with Michael Crawford, One Direction and ME!.

by Anonymousreply 18112/14/2012

Aside from being super-talented and an incredibly nice guys, as others have noted, Andy Karl is smoking hot, although it's not obvious when you see him in DROOD (because of the very heavy makeup and costuming).

Pointless to argue whether or not he was "the hottest guy in ALTAR BOYZ," because the general hotness level in that cast was through the roof -- except for Tyler, and I think that was intentional. Plus, they were all very different types.

by Anonymousreply 18212/14/2012

speaking of the new forbidden broadway, I'm sad they didn't have "Patti" do the mushy "Hummanyumbillyevbuddy!" cry from Anything Goes that she's done in all previous editions. That makes it a complete Patti.

by Anonymousreply 18312/14/2012

Probably because that joke is ancient and unfunny, r183.

by Anonymousreply 18412/14/2012

r181, did you ever see "Andrew Lloyd Webber: The Royal Albert Hall Celebration"? Ronan Keating from Boyzone gives Michael Ball a big old wink right before Ball starts singing a solo.

by Anonymousreply 18512/14/2012

Orfeh cant walk straight

by Anonymousreply 18612/14/2012

Orfeh has a bigger penis than he does.

by Anonymousreply 18712/14/2012

Would love to know what Orfeh's real name is.. something like Janice or Tiffany or Ethel.

by Anonymousreply 18812/14/2012

I love Sarah Brightman on that special, R185. She was about 30 lbs heavier during the time and going through her hardcore goth phase. Fun times.

I remember Bonnie Tyler's song was killer, too.

by Anonymousreply 18912/14/2012

With the demise of the awful Evita, hopefully that will be the last of ALW revivals. Do they DARE revive CATS?-if they do, everyone will finally realize what a piece of shit it is. Hard to fathom that it is the second longest running show to play Broadway.

by Anonymousreply 19012/14/2012

Yes, R190, ALW has a whole spate of NEW shows to inflict upon the unsuspecting American audience while we wait for the inevitable CATS retread...




by Anonymousreply 19112/14/2012


I hope "Nothing Has Been Proved" is included!

by Anonymousreply 19212/14/2012

Wasn't ALW going to produce a stage version of "A Star Is Born" at some point?

by Anonymousreply 19312/14/2012

[quote]Cinderella will be the first flop.

Hardly. More like Cinderella will be the first genuine hit of the season. Pippin will be another one when it opens (theatre's already booked).

by Anonymousreply 19412/14/2012

Doug "I've Never Had a Hit Musical" Beane's Cinderella? A hit?!!?!?!?

Sister Act, anyone?

Lysistrata Jones?


by Anonymousreply 19512/14/2012

Not to mention that Cinderella is a TV musical that does not work on stage, period. Even if you add songs. It's just not a good show, and it will fail, miserably.

by Anonymousreply 19612/14/2012


Has it been done on stage before?

by Anonymousreply 19712/14/2012

The shill who works for the production company will say "no, not this version!" But, the original stage adaptations have been on a couple of tours over the past few decades. It doesn't work in any incarnation because the score (even with interpolated songs from other Rodgers scores) is second drawer material. Tweaking the book hasn't worked and neither will replacing the book. It's the score that is not good, and those who think that a punched up yuk-fest is going to overcome that are delusional.

by Anonymousreply 19812/14/2012

The score isn't bad. "Do I Love You?" and "Ten Minutes Ago" are lovely, and "Impossible" is fun. "In My Own Little Corner" and especially "The Stepsister's Lament" are first rate. It's not on a level with the great R&H shows, but it's vastly better than, say, "Me and Juliet."

Of course, if Larry Hart had written the lyrics instead of Hammerstein, it would've great.

And this revival has an interesting cast, although I don't personally get the love for Laura Osnes.

by Anonymousreply 19912/14/2012

I wish "THE SWEETEST SOUNDS" was interpolated int the score - I LOVE that song.

by Anonymousreply 20012/15/2012

R200 It was in the most recent TV adaptation with Brandy, no?

by Anonymousreply 20112/15/2012

The ALW "A Star is Born" did a tryout in the UK at his summer festival 2 years ago - nothing since.

Meanwhile, there's been a preliminary casting call for a CATS revival on Broadway within the last week....

by Anonymousreply 20212/15/2012

Any reports on PICNIC yet?

by Anonymousreply 20312/16/2012

OCR of Carrie is a horror. Picnic could be very, very good, but there is a gaping hole at center stage:the guy playing Hal is awful, girl playing Madge only slightly better.

by Anonymousreply 20412/16/2012

"Meanwhile, there's been a preliminary casting call for a CATS revival on Broadway within the last week...."

Ah, how nice that the world is ending on December 21...

by Anonymousreply 20512/16/2012

Sorry, R199. "The score isn't bad" is a pretty flimsy endorsement. Let's meet back in a few months when the posting notice goes up.

by Anonymousreply 20612/16/2012


by Anonymousreply 20712/16/2012

Between the crappy weather and the shooting, the box offices must be even taking more of a pre-Christmas tumble this week.

by Anonymousreply 20812/16/2012

I totally disagree that the score of CINDERELLA is "second drawer." I think it's first-rate even by R&H's incredibly high standards. The problem has ALWAYS been with various aspects of the various scripts.

by Anonymousreply 20912/16/2012

Heard last night the NYMF semi hit re-animator is going to get a run off broadway in the house that Silence is leaving.

by Anonymousreply 21012/16/2012


by Anonymousreply 21112/16/2012

[quote]off broadway in the house that Silence is leaving.

What space is that? Is it part of the old Show World?

by Anonymousreply 21212/16/2012

So what are the "new" songs in Cinderella?

Someone must know

by Anonymousreply 21312/16/2012

You didn't hear it from me, BUT, Elaine Stritch was overheard talking to Steven Sondheim. "Steve, you got one more musical left in you. How about me and you doing a musical version of Harold & Maude? I'll play Maude and that little boy that I saw hanging by that leather strap in your coat closet would suffice as Harold. It would be Tonys for both of me and you."

by Anonymousreply 21412/16/2012

[quote]Steven Sondheim

Oh, dear. Turn in your gay card.

by Anonymousreply 21512/16/2012

The Cinderella score is lovely- for a 90 minute TV movie with close-ups. R and H knew what they were writing for and did appropriate work.

The problem is the score is "soft". Lots of ballads and waltzes and a few cute character numbers (Impossible, Stepsister's Lament), and throwing in The Sweetest Sounds or whatever won't fix the problem, no matter what DCB does with the book.

I think this will set an all time record for children running up and down the aisle- probably during "Do I Love You Because You're Beautiful!!"

by Anonymousreply 21612/16/2012

just returned from Paulus' Pippin an the American Rep. It was fantastic. Andrea Martin sings "No time at all" hanging upside down from a trapeze 30 feet above the audience. PAtina Miller electric, Solid performances throughout. Amazing acrobatic feats and clever use of circus theme throughout. Fosse blends perfectly with the new stunts. Choreography still needs to be a little tighter but that is a minor minor gripe for a show less than 2 weeks into previews. I would not miss this. The audience ate it UP

by Anonymousreply 21712/16/2012

The thought of a Douglas Carter Beane doing a book for a R&H musical gives me a headache. The kind of pairing only a dimwitted businessman could come up with.

by Anonymousreply 21812/16/2012

R214 - very clever, but there is already a Harold & Maude musical. Estelle Parsons did it at Papermill about 7 years ago.

by Anonymousreply 21912/16/2012

Anyoen seen Bobby Steggert's Christmas variety show? Does this mean YANK! is not going anywhere...ever?

by Anonymousreply 22012/16/2012

Bobby just closed in GIANT tonight. Does he already have his next job?

by Anonymousreply 22112/16/2012

Because r219 there can't be two musicals based on the same subject.

by Anonymousreply 22212/16/2012

Plus, the idea that Sondheim would actually listen to Elaine, much less build a show around her, after the shit she pulled during A LITTLE NIGHT MUSIC, well...

by Anonymousreply 22312/16/2012

Compared to what passes for an original score these day, Cinderella is brilliant

by Anonymousreply 22412/16/2012

So no one knows the songs added to Cinderella?

by Anonymousreply 22512/16/2012

So did Frank DiLella surrender his hole to that German producer of Rocky-Das Musikal? It would seem that way from his nauseating segments on NY1 Onstage.

by Anonymousreply 22612/16/2012

I was just thinking of Ahrens and Flaherty the other day (god knows why). And then I saw the NY1 segment on ROCKY THE MUSICAL. And discovered they were behind it.


by Anonymousreply 22712/16/2012

R220 - YANK! officially died last month, when the rights reverted to the writers. The "Broadway" producers and David Cromer walked away because the writers weren't interested in making the changes requested, and the new material they did contribute was deemed unacceptable.

Good luck ever seeing it anywhere near NYC ever again.

by Anonymousreply 22812/16/2012

Words fail me. And not in a good way.

by Anonymousreply 22912/16/2012

R216, there are two (count' em!) waltzes in CINDERELLA, and no more ballads in it than any other R&H score. The only thing that maybe marks it as a score for a TV musical rather than a stage show is that it's a little shorter and there's very little choral singing in it -- but on the other hand, you could say the same thing about SOUTH PACIFIC and THE KING AND I.

R226, I don't know about the producer of ROCKY, but many of us think DiLella surrendered his hole to SOMEONE to get his job at NY-1 in the first place. It sure didn't have anything to do with talent.

by Anonymousreply 23012/16/2012

DiLella always seems like an FTM trannie to me. Maybe it's the voice.

by Anonymousreply 23112/16/2012

But I thought DiLella was straight?

by Anonymousreply 23212/16/2012

R232, what are you - headless?

by Anonymousreply 23312/16/2012

So really, what CINDERELLA needs is "There is Nothin' Like a Dame," "June is Bustin Put All Over" and "Grant Avenue." Songs to pick up the pace. Surely that can be accomplished. Are you listening, Ted Chapin?

by Anonymousreply 23412/16/2012

Just saw The Wild Party that was at the ACT other theater here in San Francisco last night and it was really good!

by Anonymousreply 23512/17/2012

Actually, r228, Cromer did with YANK! what he always does - "reinterpret" a show by making it "darker" and heavier and removing any humor and charm.

by Anonymousreply 23612/17/2012

Not that there was any real humor or charm in YANK! to begin with.

by Anonymousreply 23712/17/2012

Wow, does this mean that my YANK! Original Cast Calendar is now worthless?

by Anonymousreply 23812/17/2012

What do you mean "is NOW worthless"?

It was always worthless. None of those flabbos was going to work for me on Broadway - and that includes you, Nancy Anderson!

by Anonymousreply 23912/17/2012

YANK stank

by Anonymousreply 24012/17/2012

YANK stank.

The tone was dank.

WWII without a tank.

Writers drank.

Cromer was frank.

Now it's a blank.


(And the gods I thank)

by Anonymousreply 24112/17/2012

Is Chaplin closing early enough that Rob McClure might play Fiorello?

I sure hope so.

Actually, can't think of anyone else who might be's not an easy role to cast in spite of the lack of singing required.

by Anonymousreply 24212/17/2012

Danny Burstein would he be a good fit as Fiorello? And wife Rebecca could play LaGuardia's doomed wife. She gets that glorious number "When Did I Fall in Love?" Is someone really doing FIORELLO? I'd love to see it. Only saw the national tour when I was 10. Don't remember much about it but have enjoyed the cast album LP and later CD for many years.

And Sutton Foster can play the loyal secretary.

by Anonymousreply 24412/17/2012

Danny Burstein is doing Talley's Folly at The Roundabout. I think that would be a conflict.

by Anonymousreply 24512/17/2012

r241 is an ignorant crank!

'twas Cromer who drugged and drank.

So addled, he drew a blank.

And that's why YANK!


by Anonymousreply 24612/17/2012

Rank, r246, rank.

by Anonymousreply 24712/17/2012

Danny Burstein would be a better Fiorello than Rob McClure. McClure is a bit young and thin for the role.

by Anonymousreply 24812/17/2012

[quote] Is someone really doing FIORELLO?

ENCORES is doing it January 30-Feb 03, 2013.

by Anonymousreply 24912/17/2012

When does Golden Boy close?

by Anonymousreply 25012/17/2012

Lurker would be so wonderful as Thea - with or without her hubby as Fiorello - would it matter that she's about fifteen years too old for the part?

The other role - age-appropriate - that she might do well with is Peggy in ON YOUR TOES. She can be very, very funny.

by Anonymousreply 25112/17/2012

I wonder if someone like Mike McCarthy can sing well enough to do it....

Would rather have a younger lady as Thea (Kate Baldwin, Laura Benanti, Elena Shaddow, Jill Paice)

You know who would have been a perfect Marie once upon a time is Randy Graff. Too old now...

by Anonymousreply 25212/17/2012

FIORELLO covers 15 years. Fiorello and the ladies should begin in their early/mid-20s and so end up almost 40.

Why didn't Nathan Lane ever play Fiorello?

by Anonymousreply 25312/17/2012

You didn't hear it from me, BUT, Catherine Zeta-Jones was recently overheard talking to Michael Douglas: "Listen here you old poop. I've got to get back to Broadway stat! And this time in a new musical. Get on the phone and find me Adam Guettel. Not his agent! Not his PA! Adam himself. I want to talk to Broadway musical royalty! He must write me a musical based on The Bridges of Madison County!"

As she was walking away, she could be heard saying "I married into the wrong acting dynasty. Where was Martin Sheen when my bosoms had more bounce?"

by Anonymousreply 25412/18/2012

When Encores did FIORELLO the FIRST time - it was the inaugural production, almost 20 years ago. GUYS & DOLLS was the big hit on Broadway at the time, and Walter Bobbie (then playing Nicely-Nicely Johnson) directed (for the first time). His co-star Faith Prince played Mrs. LaGuardia #2 (Marie - "the Very Next Man") and the lead was played by G&D director Jerry Zaks. They could have asked Nathan, but Bobbie said Nathan had been such a pain in the ass on G&D he didn't want to ruin what promised to be a good time. And it turned out when Prince won the Tony and Nathan didn't, Bobbie had made the right choice (just ask Vicki Clark what Nathan was like backstage at G&D after he lost the Tony).

That cast also included Liz Callaway, Donna McKechnie (singing & dancing the "Gentleman Jimmy" number) and opera star Elizabeth Futtral as Thea. The late great Marilyn Cooper almost stole the show in a tiny funny role.

by Anonymousreply 25512/18/2012

Isn't Orfeh a lot older than Andy? She looks pretty harsh in some of the publicity photos.

by Anonymousreply 25612/18/2012

Jason Robert Brown's song for the dead Connecticut school children is both shockingly bad and totally appalling in all its "musical-theater-must-weigh-in-on-this" vulgarity.

by Anonymousreply 25712/18/2012

Please, no Jill Paice, not as Thea or anything else. She's a bland bore. Laura Benanti, who won't do it, wouldn't really be right. Elena Shaddow will be right in a few years. Kate Baldwin ... well, she's a better choice than Jill Paice, but not much.

I'm sure Randy Graff will be too busy in January learning trapeze, so she can standby for Andrea Martin in Pippin and then take over when Martin leaves.

by Anonymousreply 25812/18/2012

Counting down, R255, for the "how dare you call her Vicki" troll in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ... 2 ...

by Anonymousreply 25912/18/2012

Josh Gad as Fiorello.

As soon as his shitty sitcom is cancelled.

by Anonymousreply 26012/18/2012

Jason Robert Brown is a self-obsessed publicity whore.

by Anonymousreply 26112/18/2012

Not the V.C. troll but, Victoria Clark can be a bitch.

by Anonymousreply 26212/18/2012

Lea DiLaria as Fiorello!

by Anonymousreply 26312/18/2012

[quote]Victoria Clark can be a bitch.

I have been taught by masters.

by Anonymousreply 26512/18/2012

[quote]Lea DiLaria as Fiorello!

Lea DeLaria as City Center!

by Anonymousreply 26612/18/2012

r264: When Rudetsky interviewed Clark at Chatterbox some years ago, she went on the record about how arrogant and nasty Lane was to her when she went on for Faith Prince.

by Anonymousreply 26712/18/2012

It fascinates me that Faith Prince who was surely tiouted as the biigest musical comedy find of the end of the last century has been so eclipsed by her G&D understudy Victoria Clark, who is half as much in every way.

Faith, come back to Broadway! They are writing great roles for middle-aged women now!

by Anonymousreply 26812/18/2012

[quote]They are writing great roles for middle-aged women now!

Really. What?

by Anonymousreply 26912/18/2012

I don't think Prince has been eclipsed at all by Clark. Prince has done some major supporting TV roles, and her name still has more zing on Broadway than Vicky Clark's does.

Clark made a lot of foolish choices since her Tony win (not that she had that many offers to begin with). And her TV/film career is non-existant.

by Anonymousreply 27012/18/2012

Faith Prince hasn't really gotten the roles she deserves. Years ago, I saw her in Falsettoland and her "Holding to the Ground" showed what great dramatic depth she can achieve. Of course we know from "Jerome Robbins Broadway" and "Guys & Dolls" that she's a great comic actress.

But her roles in the last ten years haven't been that great. "A Catered Affair", and a replacement in "The Mermaid". She really needs to get a good original piece, like VC got "Light in the Piazza" to boost her career.

by Anonymousreply 27112/18/2012

Faith can do the tour of Scandalous....does she know how to work a tambourine?

by Anonymousreply 27212/18/2012

The general public doesn't know Clark but they don't know Prince, either. Major supporting roles? As I said, the tourist crowd doesn't know her from Adam. Like Chita Rivera, her face is not meant for anything but the theatre.

by Anonymousreply 27312/18/2012

Richard Ridge manages to make Jackie Hoffman unfunny. Goddddd he's awful.

by Anonymousreply 27412/18/2012

That's an interesting perspective, R270 -- what do you think VC's bad choices were and what choices could she have made differently? Seems like opps are limited for her. As for FP, people are forgetting that she thought she'd be the next Lucille Ball after Frank Rich came all over her, so that was the particular rabbit hole she fell down and still hasn't really climbed out of.

by Anonymousreply 27512/18/2012

R275, I remember that William Henry III of Time, essentially said that she would have numerous musicals written for her because it was the performance of a lifetime.

by Anonymousreply 27612/18/2012

Having seen her in several shows, I would say that Faith Prince is great when she's "on," and when she's well cast and well directed. But I've seen her give some really low-energy performances, plus she's not particularly versatile, and I don't think her innate comic ability is all that great. All of those things, plus the fact that she wasn't a young woman when she hit it big in G&D, probably explain why her career since then has been less than stellar.

by Anonymousreply 27712/18/2012

And let's not forget her dismal turn in Bells Are Ringing. That put a huge roadblock in her career.

by Anonymousreply 27812/18/2012

278, I think you hit on it. Bells are Ringing was intended as a star vehicle for Faith. Unfortunately, the director did everything possible to undermine Faith. The hair and makeup made Faith look ten years older than the male lead (they made her up to look like Lucille Ball). They never should have hire a "concept" director for the show. Unfortunately, Faith took the fall, not the director.

by Anonymousreply 27912/18/2012

Not to mention that whatever talents she does have don't measure up to those of Holliday's, for whom the show was created. Holliday was huggable; Prince never is.

by Anonymousreply 28012/18/2012

speaking of directors whose thought was it to hire Moises Kaufman to direct "The Heiress"

by Anonymousreply 28112/18/2012

[quote]The hair and makeup made Faith look ten years older than the male lead

Maybe cuz she was...

by Anonymousreply 28212/18/2012

Tina Landau, the director of Bells Are Ringing, is a humor-challenged lesbian. Great choice to direct a frothy 1950's musical.

by Anonymousreply 28312/18/2012

WEHT Josh Tarzan Strickland? Is he still in a strip show in Las Vegas? Is that a cover for escorting? He was sex on a stick.

by Anonymousreply 28412/18/2012

Faith Prince had a comeback vehicle.

It was that awful Catered Affair.

by Anonymousreply 28512/18/2012

Harvey - you ruined CATERED AFFAIR by inserting yourself and your peripheral character into the center of the action. Don't blame Faith for that flop.

Josh Strickland and his equally hot bf Todd are still in Vegas - besides doing the strip show, they were regulars on Holly Madison's reality show.

by Anonymousreply 28612/18/2012

Is Josh Gad gay? He sure played the son on the White House sitcom like a queen with Asberger's.

by Anonymousreply 28712/18/2012

Catered Affair had a few good songs - One White Dress and Our Only Daughter are excellent. But then it does the faux-Sondheim angry sing speaking crap and just gets blah.

by Anonymousreply 28812/18/2012

I actually like A CATERED AFFAIR.

Better than RENT.

Better than MEMPHIS.

by Anonymousreply 28912/18/2012

[quote] Better than RENT. Better than MEMPHIS.

What isn't?

by Anonymousreply 29012/18/2012

[quote] Better than RENT. Better than MEMPHIS.

[quote] What isn't?


by Anonymousreply 29112/18/2012

You didn't hear it from me, BUT, Liza was recently overheard talking to John Kander. "Darling, what if Sally Bowles was lying and went ahead and had the baby. I mean to say that in the stage version it's only implied that she had an abortion. Oh, why don't you write me a sequel to Cabaret. We could call it Sally's Reprise! It could be a cross between Mildred Pierce and All About Eve. Oh wouldn't that be fun?! Can't you just hear me singing "Maybe this time, you will listen. Maybe this time, you will stay. Oh my darling, you must know this, but your father was gay!" Oh wouldn't it be fun and we could have Chita play the Lotte Lenya role.

by Anonymousreply 29212/18/2012

Breaking: everyone's favorite Newsie, Ryan Steele, is in loooooveeee.

by Anonymousreply 29312/18/2012

The Stritch one was really funny, r292. The Liza sequel ... isn't.

by Anonymousreply 29412/18/2012

Here's a dime r294, go buy yourself a sense of humor.

by Anonymousreply 29512/18/2012

Ry, I fell in love, too !

by Anonymousreply 29612/18/2012

TABOO was kind of a mess but at least it had a fun score and some great performance. You can't say that about MEMPHIS.

by Anonymousreply 29712/18/2012

I think the real problem with Faith is that she's generally mismarketed.

She's insanely hysterically funny, and I never give her enough credit, but when I saw her cabaret at Studio 54, her way with a lyric astounded me.

But people think she is a huge musical comedy star when in reality she has huge issues staying on pitch, and the voice itself is pretty unpleasant.

by Anonymousreply 29812/18/2012

Oh, Matty and Ry. I don't even have anything bitter to say because these two are cute as buttons.

by Anonymousreply 29912/18/2012

Who's the top, Ry?

by Anonymousreply 30012/18/2012

Isn't an unpleasant voice the hallmark of a musical comedy legend?

by Anonymousreply 30112/18/2012

What is the BFD about Helen Gallagher? She sings so flat.

by Anonymousreply 30212/18/2012

r287: Gad is married with kids.

by Anonymousreply 30312/18/2012

Not that being married (to a woman) MEANS anything...but I think he's pretty straight. And Fug.

by Anonymousreply 30412/18/2012

r301, Lucy should have gone to Broadway. She actually might have been a good Mama Rose, singing not counted.

by Anonymousreply 30512/18/2012

Lucy DID go to Broadway, hon.

by Anonymousreply 30612/18/2012

[R192] I love, love, LOVE you. So hard.

by Anonymousreply 30712/18/2012

R302 Hush your mouth!

by Anonymousreply 30812/18/2012

R306, she should have stayed there.

by Anonymousreply 30912/18/2012

[quote]Lucy DID go to Broadway, hon.

I heard that she was offered Wildcat and The Unsinkable Molly Brown. Can you imagine her butchering the score of Molly Brown?

by Anonymousreply 31012/18/2012

Christ, that Jason Robert Brown song is unlistenable dreck.

by Anonymousreply 31112/18/2012

What is the gist of the lyrics to JRB's song? I can't listen to it right now.

by Anonymousreply 31212/18/2012

Gorgeous Ben Walker buck naked in CAT ON A HOT TIN ROOF for one glorious moment. Show needs tightening but it's in pretty good shape. Scarlett is great and Walker is spot-on perfect. Even some questionable choices by Rob Ashford can't ruin a play that's a masterpiece. Great ovation by the audience.

by Anonymousreply 31312/18/2012

Walker naked? How naked? At the beginning of the play?

by Anonymousreply 31412/18/2012

The "young male lead" in that Bells Are Ringing revival was DL fave Marc Kudisch. quickly they forget!

by Anonymousreply 31512/18/2012

Faith and her musician hubby moved to Sacramento about 10 years ago to raise their kid. Not sure why Sacramento but it did put her closer to LA and more TV work.

by Anonymousreply 31612/18/2012

You have to remember when Lucy did Wildcat she had just come off almost 10 years as Lucy Ricardo so the world was absolutely panting in anticipation for her next move. She hadn't yet sullied reputation with all those Here's Lucy episodes with Mr Mooney.

So for those across America who only saw this Wildcat number on The Ed Sullivan Show, she did not disappoint.

by Anonymousreply 31712/18/2012

She met the guy in Sacramento....Doing the Music CIrcus...That's where his family is

by Anonymousreply 31812/18/2012

Jack Black for Fiorello

by Anonymousreply 31912/18/2012

So r318? They're that hard up for a babysitter??

by Anonymousreply 32012/18/2012

[quote]She hadn't yet sullied reputation with all those Here's Lucy episodes with Mr Mooney.

Mr. Mooney was in "The Lucy Show," not "Here's Lucy."

by Anonymousreply 32112/18/2012

r313, where in the theatre should one sit to see Ben Walker naked? (Please specify "audience right" or "audience left" so there's no confusion with "stage right" or "stage left").

by Anonymousreply 32312/18/2012

Actually, Faith's dismal performance on the Tony's was what sealed A Catered Affair's fate. She was really good in the show but choked on tv.

by Anonymousreply 32412/18/2012

He's in a towel for most of the first act and then changes into the silk pyjamas - in front of the audience. Glory be.

by Anonymousreply 32512/18/2012

He changes (back to audience, though) upstage left so for max viewing, I'd say you sit slightly house left on a diagonal from him. I knew he was a good looking guy but he's pretty smoking in that white towel. And he sits downstage with legs open many times, though no wardrobe malfunctions that I could tell.

by Anonymousreply 32612/18/2012

No dick, sorry.

by Anonymousreply 32712/18/2012

Where on the stage is he, and which side should you be sitting on for the best view, r313/r325?

by Anonymousreply 32812/18/2012

He was hot as hell nude in LES LIASONS DANGEREOUS too

by Anonymousreply 32912/18/2012

It's a shame about Kudisch. A great voice. He's now a character actor/singer, but when he was prime leading man material there were no good roles for him.

And there are no new musical roles for Daddy bears.

by Anonymousreply 33012/18/2012

Sorry, r326, I posted before your responses came up.

So if he's changing upstage left (i.e. audience right), is there a chance if you sat right down front on extreme house left (like by the left wall) you might see his dick from that diagonal angle?

by Anonymousreply 33112/18/2012

[quote]totally appalling in all its "musical-theater-must-weigh-in-on-this" vulgarity

With everyone so strung out about this tragedy (and rightly so), I was actually expecting an announcement that Broadway marquees would be dimmed for one minute in honor of the victims.

by Anonymousreply 33212/18/2012

The entire Broadway community will gather in front of the Tkts booth on Friday night and sing Jason Robert Brown's new memorial song, as they also pass out flyers for their shows.

by Anonymousreply 33312/19/2012

I don't do benefits.

by Anonymousreply 33412/19/2012

Frank DiLella as Lea DeLaria in The Killing of Sister George.

by Anonymousreply 33512/19/2012

A Catered Affair had two basic flaws: (1) Harvey Fierstein over-inflated role that created a dramatic imbalance, diminishing the mother as central character, and (2) the score -- though many of the songs were lovely, there were no coups de théâtre. In fact, the show's crucial dramatic moment -- the overnight sequence where the mother has a change of heart regarding buying the taxi -- was is a big stage wait -- several minutes of absolute silence. We were dying to have some insight into the mother's inner thoughts. This is the kind of thing most Broadway writers would dig their teeth into.

by Anonymousreply 33612/19/2012

Oh dear! R336 here -- if only we could go back and edit our posts. Sorry for the errors.

by Anonymousreply 33712/19/2012

According to posts elsewhere,, in the new Cat on a Hot Tin Roof, Skipper literally appears on stage as a ghost haunting Brick. Is this a joke? If not, can someone PLEASE put an end to Rob ASSford's career. He is an imbecilic hack who insults the audience.

by Anonymousreply 33812/19/2012

[quote]Skipper literally appears on stage as a ghost haunting Brick.

Oh dear God. No fucking way.

I'm sad now.

by Anonymousreply 33912/19/2012

TABOO had its moments. Some great performances. And a few really good tunes. MEMPHIS, on the other hand, was soooo boring.

I don't know how these two can even be compared.

by Anonymousreply 34012/19/2012

More about the ghost of Skipper? Is he shirtless, tight jeans? FLIP-FLOPS?? Is there a love scene between him and Brick? Does he drop his pants and bend over for Brick and does Brick run off screaming? I love when gay directors add the homo-erortic touches to the boring classics. Seriously, you guys, like Hamlet would be a lot more interesting if Horatio like deep-kissed the dying Hamlet at the end and Oedipus fucked his mother AND his father! He could poke an eye out for each!

by Anonymousreply 34112/19/2012

Taboo might have been an interesting show if Boy George hadn't been involved with it. That music was some of the drippiest crap I've ever heard.

by Anonymousreply 34212/19/2012

Skipper has a lengthy soliloquy where she bemoans the fact that her older sister Barbie gets all the attention.

by Anonymousreply 34312/19/2012

"Is there a love scene between him and Brick? Does he drop his pants and bend over for Brick and does Brick run off screaming? "

No, I think Brick would have just sighed contentedly.

by Anonymousreply 34412/19/2012

Fellas, Mr. Williams would not be happy about the inclusion of ghost Skipper. Cheap, tawdry edition by that fag Ashford. Did he get his lover Charlie Williams to play that role?

by Anonymousreply 34512/19/2012

The ghost just cheapens the memory and there's not point to it really. When he appears, Brick looks past Maggie at him. That "almost" ruined the play for me. Luckily, a nude Ben Walker and great performances all around save it.

by Anonymousreply 34612/19/2012

[quote] Taboo might have been an interesting show if Boy George hadn't been involved with it. That music was some of the drippiest crap I've ever heard.

His collaborators supplied the music.

by Anonymousreply 34712/19/2012

The new CAT makes no sense.

Skipper loved Gilligan, not Brick.

by Anonymousreply 34812/19/2012

'So for those across America who only saw this Wildcat number on The Ed Sullivan Show, she [Lucy] did not disappoint.'

Yes, you are right. I saw the Ed Sullivan Show the night Lucy appeared in early 1961. It is not in the video, but Sullivan said that Lucy was the most beloved star in show business. On that one night, it seemed that 'Wildcat' would be a big hit.

by Anonymousreply 34912/19/2012

It WOULD have been a big hit, if Lazy Lucy hadn't started cutting numbers and missing performances.

She just didn't have what it takes for the theatre.

by Anonymousreply 35012/19/2012

That's shocking R350.

by Anonymousreply 35112/19/2012

Who plays Skipper? Is it Walker's understudy? If Walker is out and the understudy is on as Brick, who plays Skipper?

Sster Woman is not in many scenes. Perhaps she could fill in on those special nights.

by Anonymousreply 35212/19/2012

Skipper is played by Tyler Maynard cuz, you know, who could resist?

by Anonymousreply 35312/19/2012

Does that mean Skipper's onstage for the whole show? It wouldn't be wise to give TM too much time backstage.

by Anonymousreply 35412/19/2012


I agree. Wonder what would have happened if Lucy had a significantly better story & script to work with. The songs are more than fine. The other consideration: she did not need the fame or the money that comes with a Broadway hit; she already had both.

by Anonymousreply 35512/19/2012

I've never seen Wildcat and only love it from the OBC album and the Sullivan spot but I would imagine the show must have lots of book problems if it's never been revived.

Has Encores or Goodspeed even done it?

Surely, Lucy wasn't so indelible or irreplaceable in the role?

What's wrong with the show?

by Anonymousreply 35612/19/2012

Based on the show's ibdb listing, Skipper is being played by Jordan Dean, whose only other major NY credit is as a replacement Sky in MAMMA MIA.

Here he is in MAMMA MIA in just a pair of black briefs - nice body, but he's a ginger.

by Anonymousreply 35712/19/2012

This was the only "revival" staging I've ever seen put on of Wildcat, in 2010

by Anonymousreply 35812/19/2012

I know Jordan Dean and he is 10 times hotter than Benjamin Walker. If you're into gingers, you can't do better.

He must be the Brick understudy, too.

by Anonymousreply 35912/19/2012

'Surely, Lucy wasn't so indelible or irreplaceable in the role?'

Well, Merman or Martin were not available bcause they were starring in other shows, so I am not sure who else had the same box office appeal back in 1961. No one I can come up with.

by Anonymousreply 36012/19/2012

What was Gwen Verdon doing in 1961? NEW GIRL IN TOWN and REDHEAD had closed....

What about Julie Andrews? CAMELOT hadn't started yet....

by Anonymousreply 36112/19/2012

But who could star in Wildcat now?

Don't say Reba McIntire. She is too old and too fat to wear blue jeans.

by Anonymousreply 36212/19/2012

Isnt 1961 when Verdon gave birth to Nicole Fosse?

by Anonymousreply 36312/19/2012

Wildcat was done in SF, too. 2009. Great score, but the book is terrible. The story is fine, but the way it's developed sucks.

by Anonymousreply 36412/19/2012

Camelot had started in 1960 and Andrews was still in it in '61. Verdon was playing Fosse's dance captain over at How to Succeed and trying to have a baby. (Nicole was born in '63).

by Anonymousreply 36512/19/2012

Did someone say Wildcat rewrite?

by Anonymousreply 36612/19/2012

Because if there was anyone appropriate to play a scrappy broad prospecting for oil in the West, it was Julie Andrews...

by Anonymousreply 36712/19/2012

Carol Burnett could have played Wildcat in '61. Could she have sold tickets at that point?

by Anonymousreply 36812/20/2012

Enough of this Wildcat talk. What I want to know is whether The Unsinkable Molly Brown is salvageable? Anyone see any of these revisal readings?

by Anonymousreply 36912/20/2012

The Molly Brown score is a big letdown after The Music Man (and the drop was even further in Here's Love, his third musical).

Supposedly they've dropped half the score for a "Meredith Willson" songbook type score.

I've never cared much for the show, but a new version with the right star (presumably Sutton Foster would NOT come back to NY to do it) ... who knows?

by Anonymousreply 37012/20/2012

Ashford did the same thing in the Rachel Weisz Streetcar at The Donmar. He staged the whole scene of Blanche's husband drowning on the side of the stage or whatever. A friend said it was bizarre.

by Anonymousreply 37112/20/2012

Cat On a Hot Tin Roof performances uniformly excellent. There is work to be done, especially in act II, when things wander and Hinds is hard to understand but overall I think it will get wonderful notices.

by Anonymousreply 37212/20/2012

Ashford should leave his wet dreams in the bedroom and off the stage. It's becoming increasingly embarrassing.

What is a ginger? A silly looking queen?

by Anonymousreply 37312/20/2012

Miss Firecracker-why?

by Anonymousreply 37412/20/2012

ginger = redhead = Jordan Dean = *@#$%^&*!!!

by Anonymousreply 37512/20/2012

Jordan Dean "Body By Broadway" Workout


by Anonymousreply 37612/20/2012

Jordan Dean is so adorable I can overlook the fact that he is cursed my microscopic-nip.

by Anonymousreply 37712/20/2012

Dean really is adorable in that video. I love the way he keeps giggling.

Is he straight or gay?

r359 who knows him, fill us in.

by Anonymousreply 37812/20/2012

He's straight.

by Anonymousreply 37912/20/2012

What is the story behind the alleged Cheyenne Jackson nude pic? How positive are we that it is actually him?

by Anonymousreply 38012/20/2012

R380 totally positive.

by Anonymousreply 38112/20/2012

Ahem, I was available in '61.

by Anonymousreply 38212/20/2012

Thanks, 371 and 373. As a director, Ashford brings nothing to the table.

by Anonymousreply 38312/20/2012

But what is the story behind the Cheyenne Jackson nude? Who leaked it?

by Anonymousreply 38412/20/2012

What is the story behind the Tyler Maynard as a thief meme? Is he really known for having sticky fingers?

by Anonymousreply 38512/20/2012

I was available in '60-'61. And I could have made Wildcat fun.

by Anonymousreply 38612/20/2012

Somebody cast Dean in the title role in a revival of REDHEAD! That ought to satisfy every queen out there.

by Anonymousreply 38712/20/2012

r3985 - he was nabbed for stealing money from actor's wallets in the dressing room.

by Anonymousreply 38812/20/2012

So... Peter and The Starcatcher is moving to Dodger Stages?

by Anonymousreply 38912/20/2012

Ashford is a bigger queen director than Ellis Rabb ever was. Rabb put porn star Cal Culver in "Merchant of Venice" back in 1973. Ashford is a fucking hack who's probably getting plowed by Dean behind Charlie's ignorant back. He pulled the same shit with dead characters in "Streetcar" at the Donmar. And that was just ignorance in its highest form. But, of course, the ghost of Blanche's gay husband was cute. More meat for Rob.

Please save us from directors who haven't a clue.

by Anonymousreply 39012/20/2012

Werre there any hunky ghosts in Ashford's Anna Christie?

Is that his theme for straight plays?

by Anonymousreply 39112/20/2012

BREAKING *** Ry Steele leaving NEWSIES for MATILDA.

by Anonymousreply 39212/20/2012

Katie Thompson is the next big star. And she could do Wildcat!

by Anonymousreply 39312/20/2012

Judd Apatow is writing a play that changes every night according to audience reaction

by Anonymousreply 39412/20/2012


by Anonymousreply 39512/20/2012

[quote] Judd Apatow is writing a play that changes every night according to audience reaction.

This sounds like Alan Ayckbourn circa 1972.

by Anonymousreply 39612/20/2012

I auditioned for Molly Brown but was passed over for faux-English bitch who couldn't even really sing.

However, I played it later (did Wildcat as well) and triumphed*

*in the regions.

by Anonymousreply 39712/20/2012

Who the hell is DOT Gray?

by Anonymousreply 39812/20/2012


She's a STAR!

by Anonymousreply 39912/20/2012

Presumably, Dolores Gray--would she really have gone by Dot--or Dolly? Or maybe--just maybe--Dolores. I think of Dot as short for Dorothy.

by Anonymousreply 40012/20/2012

Diana Rigg referred to Gray as "Dolly Dot Dots" on Terry Wogan's talk show while promoting Follies.

Here's the link.

by Anonymousreply 40112/20/2012

[quote]Presumably, Dolores Gray--would she really have gone by Dot--or Dolly? Or maybe--just maybe--Dolores.


by Anonymousreply 40212/20/2012

I would, but I'm working on my weekly nut.

by Anonymousreply 40312/20/2012

I just called her 'cunt'.

by Anonymousreply 40412/20/2012

Disney is claiming Newsies recouped. Is anyone believing that crap?

by Anonymousreply 40512/20/2012

I think it's very plausible that NEWSIES has recouped, 405. No star salaries, no expensive sets/lighting/special effects, and the show has consistently been doing very well at the box office. Why are you so skeptical?

by Anonymousreply 40612/20/2012

Is R398 also the don't-call-her-Vicki Clark troll??

by Anonymousreply 40712/20/2012

Um, Dolores Gray never did "Wildcat." Perhaps you're thinking of "Destry Rides Again." There's a wonderful live album from Talk of the Town where she does a summer stock medley.

Gale Storm did "Wildcat", as did Mamie Van Doren, Martha Raye, and Carmel Quinn (opposite Ed McMahon).

The movie was rumored for Ann-Margret. Lucy also pondered doing it as a special if the Broadway production were a success.

Polly Bergen herself tells the story that she was thought too classy/not country enough for "Molly Brown", to which she brayed at the powers that be, "but I'm from Tennessee!"

Ginger Rogers did "Molly Brown" later on the summer circuit. There were a lot more Mollys than Wildcats: Jane Powell, Vikki Carr, Karen Morrow (who couldn't even get top billing).

Ginger made a few interesting late-career musical theatre choices, she did "Annie Get Your Gun", "Tovarich", "Coco" and the stage version of "Calamity Jane."

Klea Blackhurst is the contemporary person who could play Wildcat Jackson. If you used Katie T. who would be Joe Dynamite?

The "Molly" score is basically fine. The book doesn't need a ton of rewriting, as the storyline is strong--things keep happening. Just some cutting and a tweak here and there to get things moving in a more modern way. It has A LOT of songs, and if they cut the score a bit without adding anything from the Willson catalog back in, that would be fine. Besides, what from elsewhere would fit into that show without sounding generic? The 1990s Debbie Reynolds tour did a good job cutting the show and abridging the score.

Does the show need "Happy Birthday Mrs. JJ Brown" AND "Bon Jour"? Does it need "If I Knew" the soliloquy, AND "Chick-a-Pen"? Does it need "Keep a Hoppin" AND "Up Where the People Are"? Does it need "The Denver Police" given modern scenic technology? Couldn't "Dolce Far Niente" stand alone, since the "I May Never Fall in Love with You" counterpoint effect is so unimpressive? Adding "He's My Friend" from the film always seems to work well.

by Anonymousreply 40812/20/2012


For you!

by Anonymousreply 40912/20/2012

[quote]But, of course, the ghost of Blanche's gay husband was cute.

George Deveraux is in "Streetcar"?

by Anonymousreply 41012/20/2012

[quote]Judd Apatow is writing a play that changes every night according to audience reaction.

It takes place in a sleep clinic. You snooze, you lose.

by Anonymousreply 41112/20/2012

R408- Jill Haworth was mentioned for the role of the sister in the proposed film version of WILDCAT. I saw Raye do the show in summer stock.

by Anonymousreply 41212/20/2012

R408--- I've posted this before. I saw Karen Morrow play Molly at Kansas City Starlight. She was wonderful! Morrow did twice and you are correct, the New Christy Minstrels(first production) and Serendipity Singers were billed above Ms. Morrow. Dick Berger, Executive producer was notorious for stunt casting. When Brenda Lee did BIRDIE, she got to sing three of her hits during the ice house scene. Stupid but it sold tickets. The way they show horned that in, to fend off Conrad's advances, Kim (Lee) told him about her dream to be a record star.

by Anonymousreply 41312/20/2012

A gold star is awarded to R408 for Post Of The Day.

R413, you get an elephant stamp as runner-up.

by Anonymousreply 41412/20/2012

Why have they cast so many male dancers in Matilda? I thought the cast was mostly children and the few adults who play the parents/teachers?

by Anonymousreply 41512/20/2012

There's a lot of dancers who also play kids at the school in Matilda. They play the older bully types in a few scenes, and also generallly seem to be there to help the young kids with props, set etc. Especially pushing the swings during "When I Grow Up". Plus Mrs Wormwood has her tango dance partner. And there's a chorus of parents at the start and two dancers double in the enactment of the circus stories that Matilda tells to the librarian.

by Anonymousreply 41612/20/2012

Oh, and the circus stories are the worst thing in the show, mainly because the sound is really loud, they're overlong, and when Matilda tells the story, both the actress playing Matilda and the actors in her story speak the dialogue at the same time.

The rest of it's fabulous though.

by Anonymousreply 41712/20/2012

R415 Because of all of the waltzing, of course.

by Anonymousreply 41812/20/2012

Thayne Jasperson from Newsies has also been cast as one of those unnecessary chorus boys in Matilda.

Why he's never gotten much attention around here is beyond me.

by Anonymousreply 41912/20/2012

[quote] Morrow did it twice and you are correct, the New Christy Minstrels (first production) and Serendipity Singers were billed above Ms. Morrow.

That's OK - I wasn't given first billing either in the title role and I WON THE TONY!

by Anonymousreply 42012/20/2012

Katie Thompson was great in GIANT but I think that's more in relation to all the other rather dreary leads.

by Anonymousreply 42112/20/2012

Andy Karl clearly has too much time on his hands (but check out Chita!)

by Anonymousreply 42212/20/2012

Tammy always had top billing, she just wasn't billed above the title.

Why was that, anyway? If she was relatively unknown, it seems so odd that they gave her name larger type.

by Anonymousreply 42312/20/2012

Didn't Grimes win the Tony for Supporting Actress for Molly Brown, since she wasn't above the title? Which was ridiculous, since Molly is clearly a star part.

by Anonymousreply 42412/20/2012

How do I got about getting Andy Karl's cock to fluff my bustle?

by Anonymousreply 42512/20/2012

Leap of Faith OCR now on Spotify.

by Anonymousreply 42612/20/2012

When "Timbuktu!" (with Miss Eartha Kitt) opened, someone said it should've been called "The Unthinkable Mali, Brown."

by Anonymousreply 42712/20/2012

[quote]Didn't Grimes win the Tony for Supporting Actress for Molly Brown, since she wasn't above the title? Which was ridiculous, since Molly is clearly a star part.

She wasn't a star name so she didn't go above the title. Best Actor/Actress only went to above the title actors.

The same with Tom Bosley. He won Best Supporting for playing Fiorello.

by Anonymousreply 42812/20/2012

I think it was called Featured not Supporting; hence, the above the title billing issue (note: Tony committee has been inconsistent over the years)

by Anonymousreply 42912/20/2012

[quote]I think it's very plausible that NEWSIES has recouped, 405. No star salaries, no expensive sets/lighting/special effects, and the show has consistently been doing very well at the box office. Why are you so skeptical?

Saw NEWSIES recently and cute chorus boys aside, it's utter shit. Was it really the front-runner at one point to win Best Musical? After IN THE HEIGHTS and MEMPHIS, it would've wiped away the smidgen of credibility the Tonys have left.

by Anonymousreply 43012/20/2012

I don't know if this is a recent development or not, but I'm sure I read somewhere that if an actor is billed above the title, the audience can demand refunds if he/she is replaced by an understudy for a particular performance.

And back to the past-- wasn't Dick Van Dyke a Tony winner for "featured" in "Birdie"? That's clearly the lead role.

by Anonymousreply 43112/20/2012

Dick's billing was equal to Chita's and she wasn't supporting nobody!

by Anonymousreply 43212/20/2012

In the Bosley-Van Dyck-Grimes years, the nomination was called:

"Actor/Actress, Featured OR Supporting"

Because they were considered Featured if their names appeared below the title. LEADING Actors/Actresses had their names above the title.

Now the award category is "Best Performance by an Actor/Actress in a Featured Role in a Play/Musical"

And yes, R431, you can insist on a refund ONLY if an above-the-title star is out; that's League policy and always has been. Which explains all those refunds at EVITA.

by Anonymousreply 43312/21/2012

Matilda sounds too twee for words.

by Anonymousreply 43412/21/2012

Matilda is actually pretty good.

by Anonymousreply 43512/21/2012

Wow 409! Never heard of Gray in Wildcat, she's not even mentioned in the liner notes of the CD. Good detective work.

That program has the same cover art as the Raye one.

by Anonymousreply 43612/21/2012

"Donna Lynn Champlin IS Molly Brown!"

by Anonymousreply 43712/21/2012

Yes R420 but at least your name in billing good. If I am remember correctly, Karen Morrow's name was in smaller font under the Serendipity, New Christy etc

by Anonymousreply 43912/21/2012

Chris Cristie is Fiorello

by Anonymousreply 44012/21/2012

I know I love him too R419, Thayne's gorgeous!

by Anonymousreply 44112/21/2012

Is this the nude Cheyenne pic (NSFW obviously) that people are writing about? I think it's from a couple of years ago.

by Anonymousreply 44212/21/2012

Second vote for Chris Christie in Fiorello. Maybe we can watch that fat bully have a heart attack on stage.

by Anonymousreply 44312/21/2012

How did Donna Mckechnie earn a Best Actress Tony for ACL when she wasn't billed above the title? D'Amboise got Best Supporting nod for the same role in the revival.

by Anonymousreply 44412/21/2012

Ann Coulter is Roxy Hart.

by Anonymousreply 44512/21/2012

D'Amboise was lucky she didn't get the bum's rush for that performance.

by Anonymousreply 44612/21/2012

[quote] A gold star is awarded to R408 for Post Of The Day.

How can he get a gold star when Dolores Gray DID play Wildcat, in 1963 at the Charlotte Summer Theatre, NC?

by Anonymousreply 44712/21/2012

Recall the gold star!

by Anonymousreply 44812/21/2012

The Newsies releaseis a lie. Notice how their are slyly using the phrase "initial funding recouped." That's code for the development funds used to the create the show in the first place. It's doesn't count the enhancement for Papermill nor the cost of the B'way transfer. Probably another $5 million or so. Schumacher is working hard to establish that he's had a Disney "hit," even though LK, Beauty, and AIDA were all created by the old Disney regime. Sad.

by Anonymousreply 44912/21/2012

To Schumacher's credit, he managed to keep MARY POPPINS running on Broadway even after Mackintosh fumbled the ball in the West End.

by Anonymousreply 45012/21/2012

Fiorello-it will be Jordan Gelber

by Anonymousreply 45112/21/2012

Been out of NY for a while. Returned two weeks ago and have seen: The Anarchist, Evita, the Jake Gyllenhaal play, Elf, A Christmas Story, Grace, Forbidden Broadway, and Dead Accounts.

My goodness, most of these shows SUCKED - A Christmas Story was cute and I have never seen the movie. I guess that is why everyone on ATC is so nasty & mean-spirited.

Maybe the next two weeks will be better: Chaplin, Bring it On, Glengarry, Virginia Woolf, Heiress, Picnic, Annie, Cat on a Hot Tin Roof.

by Anonymousreply 45212/21/2012

Cuba Gooding Jr.? I hope the world does come to an end today.

by Anonymousreply 45312/21/2012

Watched the Drood video, R422.

Several thoughts:

Andy Karl is the Vanilla Ice of the new millennium. I knew him when he was on the Cats tour (B.O.: Before Orfeh). Also before the nose job, and AK was a big girrrrrrrl. Used to put on a pair of t-straps and sashay around the dressing room.

Shannon Lewis is the most annoying, focus-pulling chorine I've seen this side of Rachelle Rak. Felt the same way when I saw the show, too. Without that long Ann Reinking hair that she worked to death in Fosse and the Bacharach revue, she is a big zero but thinks she is a star.

And speaking of Rak, that quick clip of Chita smooching the camera is exactly what Rak will look like in 20 years... Well, 10. Do I hear 5?

I like that Betsy Wolfe. Seems like a dirty girl.

Justin Greer went from a hot chorus boy to a hot bald daddy.

And finally: Is what Stephanie Block does in that video called krumping?

by Anonymousreply 45412/21/2012

I love you R454. Are you talking about the DROOD bootleg video or a publicity B roll?

by Anonymousreply 45512/21/2012

No, talking about the YouTube video at R422, directed by 2012's Vincente Minnelli, Andy Karl.

by Anonymousreply 45612/21/2012

Watched the video. Still not feeling the whole Andy Karl appeal.

by Anonymousreply 45812/21/2012

Which one is Andy Karl in the video?

by Anonymousreply 45912/21/2012

How did Macktintosh drop the ball in London with Mary Poppins? Poor advertising? Bad replacements?

by Anonymousreply 46012/21/2012

Bad show, R460.

by Anonymousreply 46112/21/2012

By producing it in the first place, r460.

It's rotten to the core.

by Anonymousreply 46212/21/2012

[quote] Thayne Jasperson is the kind of chorus boy who will never get out of the chorus

He should be viciously slapped for that name.

by Anonymousreply 46412/21/2012

If I'd been named Thayne Jasperson I'd be the King of Broadway by now.

by Anonymousreply 46512/21/2012

R460, it's not the greatest show in the world, that's fer sure. But the reviews in the West End were glowing. Five stars. The British crowds seemed to adore it. The West End incarnation was as English as English could be. It should have run for years, and become a national institution. MARY POPPINS (one of the most beloved characters in English literature) should have been to the West End what Cirque is to Vegas. But Mackintosh held the reins in London, not Schumacher. He marketed it like it was still the '80s. Meaning he didn't. The advertising was sparse and what there was of it was positively inane. It started bleeding money and it closed. Schumacher took over the management of it when it came to Broadway. He advertised it and marketed it correctly. And it's still running.

If you ever want to see another bad example of marketing, check out the ad campaign for BETTY BLUE EYES. Who did they think would buy tickets based on that stupid title and poster?

by Anonymousreply 46612/21/2012

How come no Max Von Essen gossip? And is all really that quite with the twinks at Newsies?

by Anonymousreply 46712/21/2012

R466- We saw it in London two weeks after it opened. Disappointed me. Long show. You were right, with those reviews and the advance, I thought it would run for years.

by Anonymousreply 46812/21/2012

Betsy Wolfe has been announced as the female lead in the Second Stage "Next Five Years" revival starting in March.

Does that mean DROOD will be closed by then, or will she just be replaced?

Where did she come from and who is she fucking to get all these parts suddenly? Is she the next Laura Osnes?

by Anonymousreply 46912/22/2012

Is she the fat blonde girl in DROOD?

by Anonymousreply 47012/22/2012

It seems like most of the Newsies are in serious relationships? I think the lack of gossip is because they're kind of a boring bunch.

by Anonymousreply 47112/22/2012

The one Newsie who caught my eye was (I checked my Playbill) a guy named Michael Fatica. Real cutie with a nice little bubble butt.

by Anonymousreply 47212/22/2012

The Last Five Years? Oh, good lord, save us from that shite....

by Anonymousreply 47312/22/2012

r468, duh, it DID run for years (too many for my taste), but you cannot deny, it has run for YEARS!

by Anonymousreply 47412/22/2012

Actually, Ashford didn't fuck around with "Anna Christie" at all. I was expecting dead seamen (ahem), but maybe Donmar forced him to direct a straightforward production after the shit he pulled with "Streetcar".

Whatever the reason, it was a terrific production, no inane antics by the nellie Ashford, and Jude Law was magnificent.

Maybe he and Ashford were fucking. Law will fuck anything in panties.

by Anonymousreply 47512/22/2012

If Condola Rashad is in "Trip To Bountiful", then the young girl on the bus will now be African American, too. Doesn't sound like a "mixed race" casting production to me. Wasn't that what was originally announced?

The whole enterprise sounds a little shaky. Cicely hasn't been able to remember her lines on stage for decades.

by Anonymousreply 47612/22/2012

This "mixed race" BOUNTIFUL is starting to sound exactly like the "mixed race" STREETCAR from last season - the usually white leads are black, and there are "token" whites in smaller roles. So far, all the announced leads are black (Cicely, Cuba, Condola and the divine Vanessa) and those are the largest roles in the play, so if a white face shows up it will be in a smaller role, like the bus driver.

Who's directing this anyway - Debbie Allen again? (Condola is her niece, BTW - I guess it would seem too nepotistic if she had cast her own daughter Vivian Nixon - who's too busy doing chorus on "Smash" anyway...)

by Anonymousreply 47712/22/2012

And it's being directed by a Caucasian director, who wants to show us he can do black better than Kenny Leon or Debbie Allen.

by Anonymousreply 47812/22/2012

Trip to Bountiful is being directed by Michael Wilson, who is an excellent director of Horton Foote's plays. His work on Foote's Dividing the Estate and The Orphans' Home Cycle was terrific.

by Anonymousreply 47912/22/2012

Why is Vanessa Williams divine? Stunningly beautiful, yes, but otherwise...

by Anonymousreply 48012/22/2012

This is Andy Karl. I think he's dreamy.

by Anonymousreply 48112/22/2012

Matt Doyle is a top

by Anonymousreply 48212/22/2012

For Max's fans

by Anonymousreply 48312/22/2012

[quote]Matt Doyle is a top

Honestly, what passes for a top these days...

by Anonymousreply 48412/22/2012

Just saw Cat on a Hot Tin Roof. Thought it was great. Hadn't seen it before.

Scarlett Johansson does a great job as does Benjamin Walker who has a pert little bottom.

by Anonymousreply 48512/22/2012

[quote]If you ever want to see another bad example of marketing, check out the ad campaign for BETTY BLUE EYES. Who did they think would buy tickets based on that stupid title and poster?

I saw BBE when I was in London and really liked it. It's too bad it will never be seen in the US. I'm sure that Vicky Clark is gnashing her teeth that she won't get to play the lead. (Joyce Chilvers not the pig.)

by Anonymousreply 48612/22/2012

She'd be better as the pig, r486.

by Anonymousreply 48712/22/2012

Music Theatre of Wichita is doing BETTY BLUE EYES this next summer. American premiere.

by Anonymousreply 48812/22/2012

Why is Max Von Essen in such desperate need for attention?

by Anonymousreply 48912/22/2012

Seriously, R488?

by Anonymousreply 49012/22/2012

Saw Roundabout's Anything Goes in L.A. today. Both Rachel York and Fred Applegate were out. Not that I think it would have made any difference. Show was lackluster at best.

And someone need to remind Kathleen Marshall that Fosse and Robbins-esque dance moves look out of place in a musical set in 1934.

by Anonymousreply 49112/22/2012

Saw "Picnic" today. Sabastian Stan is one hot piece of ass. He is shirtless through most of act one.

It's nice to have a Hal who is the same age as Madge (unlike William Holden and Kim Novak in the film).

But William Inge's Hal is one more of Inge's bad boys with a dark past...probably makes sense because Inge was deeply closeted. Stan is by no means a great actor, but not sure if anyone could play the role well.

Also liked Ellen Burstyn very much in a small role. Just my opinion, but surprised people are writing about Cat, not Picnic.

by Anonymousreply 49212/22/2012

Yes R490. With the blessings of Cameron. July.

by Anonymousreply 49312/23/2012

I love Max, naked with his legs in the air.

by Anonymousreply 49412/23/2012

R490 a better link The MTW website

by Anonymousreply 49512/23/2012

r492 than put Mr. Stan's hot ass in a porno magazine. He does not belong on a legitimate stage. He's giving a terrible performance and is damaging to an otherwise lovely production. (Is there time to replace him with his understudy? Whoever that may be. I hope so. It would avoid embarrassment for all involved.)

by Anonymousreply 49612/23/2012

Somehow I think you have not seen "Picnic," it may be a lovely production but the play has not aged well. It badly needs someone like Sebastian Stan (does not have to be him specifically) to give "Picnic" some life. Maggie Grace as Madge (Kim Novak in the film) certainly is not providing any electricity.

by Anonymousreply 49712/23/2012

Is it true?! Does Ghost Skipper SING?? Another board's poster is saying he sings "By the Light of the Silvery Moon"

WTF is going on at that theater??

by Anonymousreply 49812/23/2012

"Cat" sounds exactly like most Roundabout productions, except it's not a fuck-all Roundabout shitfest. Maybe Ashford could qualify as a co-artistic director like that other hack, Scott Ellis, after this disaster.

by Anonymousreply 49912/23/2012

r497, I ( r496) have seen Picnic. The play is a beautiful, albeit quiet, piece - rather Chekovian in its characters' yearnings - and the production is lovely with some terrific performances. It has aged just fine.

I do agree Maggie Grace is also unimpressive - but not nearly as bad as Mr. Stan. I wish the director had chosen more carefully for the crucial couple. I guess he's stuck with them, and who knows, maybe he can get performances out of them by opening night.

by Anonymousreply 50012/23/2012

So who has a dick naked pic of max. There MUST be one floating around

by Anonymousreply 50112/23/2012


Ones of his other side, yes.

by Anonymousreply 50212/23/2012

"I do agree Maggie Grace is also unimpressive - but not nearly as bad as Mr. Stan. I wish the director had chosen more carefully for the crucial couple [in 'Picnic']".

By your lights, it is unfortunate than Stan has so much stage time, far more than Grace. How is Roundabout going to full its flagship theater with only praise for the supporting cast & none for the two leads?

by Anonymousreply 50312/23/2012

Roundabout manages to make even Sam Gold look bad. What a joke they are as an organization. Insisting on those two leads, because they're tv stars.

They might as well put up a sign saying, "Merry Christmas, SUCKAS!"

by Anonymousreply 50412/23/2012

So Les Miserables is finally being released for stock and amateur?

by Anonymousreply 50512/23/2012

If you really want to see an amateur performing in LES MIZ, I suggest you hit the movie theatres this week.

by Anonymousreply 50612/23/2012

Watching SOM tonight makes me cringe how Carrie Underwood would stink the new TV production next year

by Anonymousreply 50712/23/2012

R505- It was released five years ago. The Muny and Music Theatre of Wichita produced their own productions. High schools have the rights now.

by Anonymousreply 50812/23/2012

With those hands and that honker, evidence clearly indicates Andy Karl has major sizemeat.

by Anonymousreply 50912/24/2012

PICNIC revivals are always badly cast in the leads - even the film's leads were badly cast (Holden was too old but was a HUGE star at the time, and Novak could never act)

The last PICNIC revival (also coincidentally done by the Roundabout) also had 2 weak actors in the leads: Ashley Judd and Kyle Chandler.

Both have gone on to do better work, but for the last revival they were weak and thoroughly trashed by the critics, while supporting actors Debra Monk and Anne Pitoniak got Tony nominations and Larry Bryggman WON a Tony as Best Supporting Actor that season.

by Anonymousreply 51012/24/2012

Interesting that the original broadway production of Picnic in 1953 starred Ralph Meeker and Janice Rule. But, Paul Newman played Madge's boyfriend, Kim Staley, Madge's sister, and Joanne Woodward "understudy."

Agree about Kim Novak, but she was the co-star in "Vertigo," which was recently voted the greatest film of all time replacing Citizen Kane. I do not remember Novak in Picnic, just that the age difference with Holden, and how awful Roz Russell was as the school teacher.

Is it possible that the two lead roles are virtually unplayable?

by Anonymousreply 51112/24/2012

The Guilt Trip-huge flop Barbra cant open a movie--who going to finance Gypsy-a film with basically no audience

by Anonymousreply 51212/24/2012

[quote]Watching SOM tonight makes me cringe how Carrie Underwood would stink the new TV production next year

It's not a movie remake, no one is that stupid. It's a live stage version. The stage version is being performed all over the world right now.

by Anonymousreply 51312/24/2012

R498, and/or other knowledgeable and respected NYC theater lovers: maybe I'm dense, but how can "revisions" - I realize they're directorial - such as you describe re an unseen character in "Cat" (I think it was?) be allowed by T. Williams' estate? TIA.

by Anonymousreply 51412/24/2012

Larry Bryggman was NOMINATED for Best Featured Actor in a Play (1994), but he did not WIN. Jeffrey Wright won.

by Anonymousreply 51512/24/2012

Having seen the Roundabout "Picnic" last week, I came to the conclusion that miscast or not, William Holden makes the film work. Hal is such an obnoxious asshole that only someone with Holden's maturity and charisma could pull it off. And I like Kim Novak in it. It's one of the few decent performances she gave. (albeit, not much of a stretch.) I think she's awful in "Vertigo". The film has all those great supporting players too; Betty Field, Verna Felton, and Rita Shaw and Arthur O'Connell, who were also in the play. Ellen Burstyn and Mare Winningham couldn't compare, though Reed Birney and Elizabeth Marvel were great. (She seemed to be channeling Eileen Heckart, the original Rosemary.)

by Anonymousreply 51612/24/2012

I don't think it's that Hal and Madge are "unplayable," it's just that Madge is the dullest character on stage and Hal is the most difficult to cast. Madge has nothing to do but be self-piting, sullen and wistful.

It would take a young Marlon Brando, Paul Newman or James Dean to carry off the role of Hal. Mere prettiness is not what the role is about.

I wonder why Newman wasn't cast in the film?

by Anonymousreply 51712/24/2012

Harry Cohn bought the film rights to PICNIC for his contract stars, Holden, Novak and Russell. It's all in Josh Logan's autobiog.

Newman was under contract to Warner Brothers at the time and wasn't considered a big enough name to be the lead in a major film like PICNIC - he was still playing supporting male lead to such stars as Virginia Mayo and Ann Blyth (in dreck like THE SILVER CHALICE and THE HELEN MORGAN STORY).

It wasn't until Newman got to replace James Dean in SOMEBODY UP THERE LIKES ME that Hollywood realized he was not just pretty but could really act - by then PICNIC had come and gone.

by Anonymousreply 51812/24/2012

Has anyone done a musical version of PICNIC? Seems like a natural to me.

by Anonymousreply 51912/24/2012

There was a musical version of Picnic called Hot September. It closed out of town (Boston) in 1965.

by Anonymousreply 52012/24/2012

Dang. Is it revivable? Or revisical-able?


by Anonymousreply 52112/24/2012

Hot September was doomed bacuase it had a bunch of unknowns in the cast. The only recognizable name was Eddie Bracken as Howard. I can understand fresh new faces in the romantic leads, but certainly Rosemary should have been a "star" role. But no, some chick named Lovelady Powell" played the role.

by Anonymousreply 52212/24/2012

Blue Pear put out a cast recording (of demos, but studio recordings nonetheless) of HOT SEPTEMBER on CD. Vocal selections were issued and Marilyn Maye covered "Show Me Where the Good Times Are" on RCA.

by Anonymousreply 52312/24/2012

Kathryn Hayes ('Kim' on As The World Turns) was cast as Madge but was fired. It was Lovelady Powell who replaced her? I thought it was Sheila Sullivan, who later married Robert Culp and posed for a nude pictorial with Culp for Oui Magazine. Was she replaced by Ms. Powell? I may be wrong about this.

by Anonymousreply 52412/24/2012

Sorry.. just read the post again, my mistake. Powell played Rosemary not Madge.

by Anonymousreply 52512/24/2012

The score is mid sixties dreck

by Anonymousreply 52612/24/2012

"Lovelady"? And we thought people gave their kids weird names nowadays.

by Anonymousreply 52712/24/2012

Hot September closed because it was written by tyro nobodies who did a lousy job, not because of the cast.

by Anonymousreply 52812/24/2012

Lovelady? Are you sure it wasn't Loveday?

by Anonymousreply 52912/24/2012

r516, It's "Reta." Thank you.

by Anonymousreply 53012/24/2012

Aren't Inge's plays classic examples of those with characters who "don't sing." Every example I know of attempts to musicalize his plays—Picnic, Bus Stop, Come Back Little Sheba—were huge disasters.

by Anonymousreply 53112/24/2012

But wasn't there some second attempt to stage Hot September, perhaps with another title, that starred a post-Follies Alexis Smith in the Roz Russell role?

Ms Smith must have been somewhat obsessed with Roz because she also starred in her role in the 1973 Broadway revival of The Women.

Yes, the all-star revival of The Women, of which Lainie Kazan was fired and replaced by a non-star.

by Anonymousreply 53212/24/2012


Who did Lainie Kazan play? Paulette Godard?

by Anonymousreply 53312/24/2012

I believe you're thinking of Summer Brave wi/Alexis-which was a non musical reworking of Picnic?

by Anonymousreply 53412/24/2012

Just reading Sondheim's HAT books now. Lots of fun anecdotes, including his replacing UPTOWN/DOWNTOWN in FOLLIES with the LUCY & JESSIE song at the request of Alexis Smith, who wasn't much of a singer but just wanted to show off her fab legs. Ironically, I think L&J is the better song, but maybe SS doesn't agree.

And that's all the FOLLIES talk for 2012.

by Anonymousreply 53512/24/2012


No, that's why he gave her Uptown/Downtown in place of Losing My Mind, which would have been a duet with Doroth Collins. Lucy & Jessie was written at Michael Bennett's insistence.

by Anonymousreply 53612/24/2012

R531 - never saw the movie of "Bus Stop", in which Marilyn sang and danced quite successfully.

by Anonymousreply 53712/24/2012

As astounding as it may seem now, Lainie played Crystal Allen, the Joan Crawford role in that revival of The Women. She was replaced by her understudy Marie was like the producers just gave up.

The other stars were Kim Hunter (Mary/Norma Shearer), Rhonda Fleming (Miriam/Paulette Goddard), Myrna Loy (Mary's mom/Lucile Watson), Dorothy Loudon (Edith/Phyllis Povah), Jan Miner (Countess deLave/Mary Boland), Polly Rowles (Lucy/Marjorie Main), Marian Hailey (Peggy/Joan Fontaine) and Mary Louise Wilson (Nancy/Florence Nash).

by Anonymousreply 53812/24/2012

Virtually every character in Picnic would be eligible for an "I Want" song.

The play just needs the right composer/lyricist. Not to mention, a decent director.

by Anonymousreply 53912/24/2012

The "understudy" who replaced Lainie was MARIE WALLACE, who was in the original cast of GYPSY and SWEET CHARITY on Broadway and was one of the stars of DARK SHADOWS on television.

She's had quite a career and just published her memoirs, where she names names and dishes all the dirt, even about WHY Lainie got the ax...

She's far more worthy of DL devotion than that cow Kazan.

by Anonymousreply 54012/24/2012


Then start a thread on her!

by Anonymousreply 54112/24/2012

Why in the world did PICNIC need to be rewritten as SUMMER BRAVE?

Did Inge do the rewrite or was he dead by then?

by Anonymousreply 54212/24/2012

Not only is Ms. Shaw's name spelled "Reta" but it's pronounced "Rhetta" not "Rita."

by Anonymousreply 54312/24/2012

Not only does Sondheim trash people unnecessarily in his books, but he lies through his teeth constantly.

Miserable old queen.

by Anonymousreply 54412/24/2012

R543, that's "Chits"

by Anonymousreply 54512/24/2012

I saw THE WOMEN but Kazan was long gone. I do have the window card that has her name on the credits.

by Anonymousreply 54612/24/2012

Lainie had just been fired as the lead in the musical Seesaw by Michael Bennett when he stepped in to save the show during out-of-town tryouts.

She went right into rehearsals for The Women but I believe she was fired from that one while it was still in rehearsals, in spite of her name appearing on any posters.

1973 was annus horriblis for Lainie.

by Anonymousreply 54712/24/2012

I enjoy Sondheim's bitchiness about others, particularly dead lyricists. But he's dead wrong on some points:

"Your looks are laughable


Is a great fucking lyric. And listeners understand exactly what the singer is saying.

by Anonymousreply 54812/24/2012

I agree with you r548. He's so wrong about that lyric.

by Anonymousreply 54912/24/2012

He's wrong about Hart, period.

by Anonymousreply 55012/24/2012

r537. Of course I've seen the film of Bus Stop. It's NOT a musical, despite its songs. I'm talking about musicalizing the Inge plays for the stage; some folk tried it with Bus Stop (Josh Logan was involved) and it flopped. Same as Sheba, with Kay Ballard. And Hot September.

Pay attention, please.

by Anonymousreply 55112/24/2012

But r551, do you think if, as you say, "the folk" who tried it with Bus Stop, Picnic or Sheba had tried it with Pygmalion, they would have created My Fair Lady?

by Anonymousreply 55212/24/2012

Who knows? I'm just saying there may be something inherent in the plays of Inge that make them stubbornly resistant to becoming stage musicals. Or maybe those who tried were hacks.

by Anonymousreply 55312/25/2012

Why does every play need to become a musical?

Whatever happened to original musicals, not based on plays or material from other sources?

by Anonymousreply 55412/25/2012

"She's had quite a career and just published her memoirs,"

Just in....2005.

by Anonymousreply 55512/25/2012

r554 most of the greats were based on something

by Anonymousreply 55612/25/2012

Green Grow The Lilacs!

by Anonymousreply 55712/25/2012

That would make a TERRIBLE musical, r557.

by Anonymousreply 55812/25/2012

Bye Bye Birdie wasn't based on anything at all.

by Anonymousreply 55912/25/2012

Birdie was based on the actual true-life incident of Elvis Presley being inducted into the Army.

Other musicals based on real-life incidents?

BOUNCE/ROAD SHOW (based on the life of the Mizner Brothers)

EVITA (based on the life of Eva Peron)

But any others based on a single incident in a life?

by Anonymousreply 56012/26/2012

Miss Liberty

by Anonymousreply 56112/26/2012


by Anonymousreply 56212/26/2012

Floyd Collins

by Anonymousreply 56312/26/2012

Escept the main characters of Albert, Rosie and Mae, not to mention the entire McAfee family are all completely made up. And Elvis never kissed a real teenage girl on the Ed Sullivan show (or anywhere on TV to my knowledge).

I would nominate Bye Bye Birdie as the most original hit musical ever written.

OTOH, was Company based on anything? Or Follies? Or Sunday in the Park (besides the painting, of course)?

by Anonymousreply 56412/26/2012

Brigadoon City Of Angels Grease

All three far more original than Birdie in that regard...though I like Birdie better than all 3.

by Anonymousreply 56512/26/2012

[quote]I would nominate Bye Bye Birdie as the most original hit musical ever written.

What about A CHORUS LINE?

by Anonymousreply 56612/26/2012

[quote]Just reading Sondheim's HAT books now. Lots of fun anecdotes, including his replacing UPTOWN/DOWNTOWN in FOLLIES with the LUCY & JESSIE

Fun anecdotes? Sigh, oh Sondheimtes.

[quote]Thee "understudy" who replaced Lainie was MARIE WALLACE,..' just published her memoirs, where she names names and dishes all the dirt, even about WHY Lainie got the ax... She's far more worthy of DL devotion than that cow Kazan.

Not at $14 for an old paperback she ain't.

by Anonymousreply 56712/26/2012

Sadly, I think A Chorus Line proved with the last Broadway revival that it hasn't aged very well.

Of course, if we're counting Broadway revivals, Bye Bye Birdie didn't exactly work the last time either.

by Anonymousreply 56812/26/2012

You can't count Bye Bye Birdie based on the last revival, because it was pure and utter shit. The entire cast was terrible, B-level at best, and some "for the ages" bad performances, including Gina Gershon and especially Bill Irwin. Noland Gerard Fuckme was practically incompetent as Birdie.

Had it gotten a first-rate revival, I don't think we'd be saying it hasn't aged well.

by Anonymousreply 56912/26/2012

What R569 said.

by Anonymousreply 57012/26/2012

What r570 said

by Anonymousreply 57112/26/2012

Yes- we've named many of the great 'original' musicals. Music Man is one more. But most of the other greats from Oklahoma to Guys and Dolls to South Pacific to Hello Dolly to Cabaret to My Fair Lady were based on plays or stories or movies.

Adapting isn't a bad thing and too many people think the lack of 'original' musicals is a sign of new bad times.

by Anonymousreply 57212/26/2012

FWIW, when I was at the BMI/Lehman Engel writers workshop, they pretty much commanded us to adapt an existent work when looking for a musical to write. The popular wisdom was that there were so many things that can go wrong with a musical, at least start with a known, pre-tested story.

I'm not saying they were right. (I no longer have any association with BMI.) But it's a very popular theory.

by Anonymousreply 57312/26/2012

COMPANY was based on a group of short plays (never published or produced) written by George Furth, all dealing with marriage.

Recent "originals" include Book of Mormon, Avenue Q, and Urinetown.

by Anonymousreply 57412/26/2012

What R224 said X 100!

by Anonymousreply 57512/27/2012

R574 Also "The Drowsy Chaperone."

by Anonymousreply 57612/27/2012

r577 reads the NYTimes.

by Anonymousreply 57812/27/2012

No way is "Vertigo" a "greater" film than "Citizen Kane," but I guess all the critics have seen "Kane" so many times they need a fresher film to squee over.

by Anonymousreply 57912/27/2012

It's Tovah's birthday!

by Anonymousreply 58012/27/2012

No mention of Billy Magnussen's performance as the wannabe-actor boyfriend Spike in Vanya & Sasha et al? Besides keeping me semi-aroused for 2.5 hours, he actually gives quite a good, energetic, comic performance. Reminded me of a young Kevin Kline in On The 20th Century many years ago. And black Calvins never looked briefer or better!

My favorite lines:

Sonia: Why is that boy always stripping down to his underwear?

Vanya: (wistfully) Because he can!

by Anonymousreply 58112/27/2012

BBB can be seen in every high school and community theater across the country. Nonetheless, the stage version is much less liked than the Ann-Margret movie. The creators tried transfer the play to TV with Jason Alexander and Vanessa Williams. It was faithful to the play and it bombed.

Any warm and fuzzy feelings about this show are related to the movie.

by Anonymousreply 58212/27/2012

"Call Me Madame" is loosely based on Pearl Mesta, an actual person, but not any play, or other source material

by Anonymousreply 58312/27/2012

Roundabout proves once again that it is the Anti-Lincoln Center-they have the reverse Midas touch-everything they get near turns to shit-with their deadly production of Picnic. Poorly directed, poorly designed (why is th house masked by a giant brown wood or steel wall? is it built into a foundry? don't thy have free standing houses in Kansas?) Some of the worst acting to be seen in a Bway play in quite some time. Maggie Grace (Graceless?)-cannot speak dialogue let alone act-and is totally awkward physically. Sebastian Stan, not much better-great body (although no one looked like that in the 50's-) Hal should have some danger and testosterone-not look like a pretty boy out of Magic Mike. (Are these two supposed to be stars?) Madeleine Martin is insufferable-with a voice fit only for cartoons-the usually reliable Liz Marvel is mugging shamelessly with a very broad and aggressive take on Rosemary (and why dear God is the first scene of Act 2 played for laughs?). Ellen Burstyn, while nice to see on stage-is a little behind the beat=and seriously, are we supposed to believe she has a mother living with her-who is why, 110 years old?). some of the small roles well executed (thank you Reed Birney for some honesty and authenticity) Will be done in any number of LORT theatres this year in far better production

by Anonymousreply 58412/27/2012

is sam gold the latest emperors new clothes?

by Anonymousreply 58512/27/2012

You're crazy, r582. The original movie of BBB is awful, except for the camp factor in A-M's performance. The title song is cute, but the rest of it - particularly the awful Russian ballet/speed-up potion is terrible.

The newer one wasn't any good, either, but what can you expect with fat Jason dancing in a train station, Vanessa Williams showing off minimal singing and dancing skills, and Tyne Daly croaking out a rotten new song?

by Anonymousreply 58612/27/2012

R581, I totally agree about Billy's hotness as well as his talent. He seems to have a great gift for comedy.

R586, of course I agree that the Russian ballet speedup sequence in the original BYE BYE BIRDIE film is terrible, but there are lots of really good things in the movie besides the title song, for example: "The Telephone Hour," "How Lovely to Be a Woman," "Honestly Sincere," "A Lot of Livin' to Do," Bobby Rydell's charming performance, and the terrific comic performances of Paul Lynde and Maureen Stapleton.

by Anonymousreply 58712/27/2012

The Russian Ballet sendup is SO stupid...and it makes me laugh out loud every time I see it.

The choreography for "Gotta Lotta Livin' To Do" is fantastic - excitingly staged and shot.

The last shot of A-M looking upset as Hugo speeds off is deliberately, campily overwrought in the best possible way.

by Anonymousreply 58812/27/2012

r587: I agree...Rydell is one of the best things in the movie. Gawky-cute and endearing, he and A-M make a charming duo and he dances his ass off in "Lotta Livin' To Do".

I was very surprised to find out that he made no more films after BBB. You would have thought he would have popped up in at least one "Beach Party" movie.

by Anonymousreply 58912/27/2012

[quote]I totally agree about Billy's hotness as well as his talent. He seems to have a great gift for comedy.

I sat in the front row and was in heaven when he bent over and shook his hot ass literally inches from my face. Oh, yes, he's quite talented, all right!

by Anonymousreply 59012/27/2012

Bobby Rydell played Tom Sawyer in the Frank Luther musical at Kansas City Starlight Theatre that summer. The 9,000 seat outdoor amphitheatre was sold out all seven performances. It was the biggest money maker in Starlight history upsetting the previous record held by Carol Burnett in CALAMITY JANE. The last 7 night 'not a seat in the house' record breaker... Phyllis Diller in THE WIZARD OF OZ.

by Anonymousreply 59112/27/2012

R590 This season, Billy's ass also on display in Boardwalk Empire. It's a scene where his character is fucking Gretchen Mol. And yes, that ass is a thing of beauty.

by Anonymousreply 59212/27/2012

oprah winfrey who has ever cared. A bunch of stupid white woman made her famous and she opens a girls school for poor black girls what about poor whire girls do you care you are a racist.

by Anonymousreply 59312/27/2012

Nicky Martin has always had a great eye for the pretty boys.

by Anonymousreply 59412/27/2012

DEAD ACCOUNTS was DOA, now it's really dead.

Total loss of entire investment.

Please God let this mean the end of Theresa Rebeck's writing career - fired from SMASH and now her plays lose money....

by Anonymousreply 59612/28/2012

Denzel Washington IS Walter Lee Younger in a Broadway revival of A Raisin in the Sun!

This is not a troll post. I repeat, this is not a troll post!

by Anonymousreply 59712/28/2012

Hathaway is awful in Les Miz. She works way too hard. Egregiously over-underplays it. And anyone can fill their eye ducts with tears and then drop them on cue by closing his/her eyes. It's not well sung. It's awful. Samantha Barks was wonderful as Eponine.

As for musicals adapted from real life, MEMPHIS was based on the life of Dewey Phillips.

by Anonymousreply 59812/28/2012

The party continues ...

by Anonymousreply 59912/28/2012

IIRC that Hair Test did not pass.

by Anonymousreply 60012/28/2012
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