Funny how he's been forgotten now. But Clinton stepped up and saved the whole damn thing, and anyone who says he didnt is either lying or too ignorant to help.
Bill Clinton saved Barack Obama's ass. Period.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||12/06/2012|
It was quid pro quo.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||12/05/2012|
A deal is a deal
|by Anonymous||reply 2||12/05/2012|
I firmly believe Bill went as far out for Obama as he did because he and Obama have a deal that Obama will do the same for Hillary in 2016.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||12/05/2012|
OP do you have some sort of data to back up your claim?
|by Anonymous||reply 4||12/05/2012|
I would say Mitt Romney saved Barack Obama's ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||12/05/2012|
How can one possibly say that Obama would not have won but for Clinton? No doubt Clinton's support was a boon to the campaign but to insist that Obama would have lost but for Clinton's assistance is completely speculative and, if anything, seems unlikely given that Obama won the electoral and popular vote handily with people lined up for hours to vote. I doubt people lining up for hours to vote did so because of Bill Clinton.
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R5 nailed it
|by Anonymous||reply 7||12/05/2012|
Clinton gave Obama a big boost at the convention. But that was starting to ebb by the times the 47% video came out. That video momentum was lost after the first debate.
Ultimately, I think the final election numbers are the same as they would have been without all of those short term boosts. The state numbers didn!'t change radically between Summer and November. All that said, I'm glad we had Bill Clinton on our side and not against us.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||12/05/2012|
Bill is currently in Rio surrounded by buxom tanga clad 16 year olds.
I hope Hilary doesn't run. Can't we find her something else that's awesome to do?
|by Anonymous||reply 9||12/05/2012|
Clinton did a better job at explaining Obama's goals and GOP failings than Obama could.
[quote]I firmly believe Bill went as far out for Obama as he did because he and Obama have a deal that Obama will do the same for Hillary in 2016.
If true, Bill made a bad deal as O has the habit of accepting support, saying thank you, and walking away. Bill, on the other hand, supports his supporters to this day,never letting them forget that he remembers and appreciates their help, even decades later.
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I agree with R5 as well. Just like George W. did in 2008.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||12/05/2012|
R6, if I could not have voted by mail & had to line up for hours to vote for Obama, I would have done that -- but it would have been in spite of Bill Clinton, not because of him.
After he squandered his own goodwill & that of the Democratic Party by perjuring himself, he owes it to the country to work as hard as he can to help get good candidates in office. I'm not inclined to shower him with gratitude for doing what he's morally obligated to do.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||12/05/2012|
I don't think anyone would say he didn't, at least at the convention. Stop trying to stir shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||12/05/2012|
I completely agree, OP. Bill is the best.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||12/05/2012|
I don't know whether or not Obama would have lost without Bill Clinton's help; however, Bill was enormously beneficial particularly at the Democratic National Convention and throughout the fall campaign season.
Bill gave it his all, and besides, Barack couldn't be campaigning everywhere, so Bill was the best surrogate to draw crowds and incite enthusiasm notably after that first disastrous Obama debate.
Obama needs to keep this in mind and return the favor should Hillary decide to run in 2016.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||12/05/2012|
Bill Clinton was one of many factors that helped Obama, OP. Let's not get into a heated debate about who is more important, though.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||12/05/2012|
Untrue. No state went for Obama that wouldn't have if Clinton had not intervened.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||12/05/2012|
Nobody should effusively praise Clinton for work any sentient being should have done. It is this enormous sense of entitlement that surrounds him that I find offensive. HE was in bed with the Republicans throughout the 1990s and 2000s helping the rich loot this country.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||12/05/2012|
"Bill made a bad deal as O has the habit of accepting support, saying thank you, and walking away. Bill, on the other hand, supports his supporters to this day,never letting them forget that he remembers and appreciates their help, even decades later."
Bill also had a history of letting people twist in the wind once they were not useful anymore.
However, he performed well for Obama.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||12/05/2012|
Looks like we've got a Bill basher at R18.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||12/05/2012|
Gee, the Republicans should have had their last president doing the same for Romney. They would have one the election, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||12/05/2012|
What do you want Obama to do? Have a parade for him? Geezzzz
|by Anonymous||reply 22||12/06/2012|
Was that the same triangulating Bill Clinton who said he loved the gays then gave us Don't Ask and DOMA? The same Bill Clinton who supported NAFTA and the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act?
Bill Clinton is tired, self-serving piece of shit.
So is his wife.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||12/06/2012|
This woman will never be President.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||12/06/2012|
Based on his physical appearance lately, there's a very good chance that Bill will not still be around in 2016.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||12/06/2012|
I don't know how you can say Bill Clinton saved Obama's ass when Obama was ahead of Romney in the Electoral College projections at EVERY POINT during the ENTIRE campaign, both before and after the convention. Romney was never in the lead. Obama's campaign was never in need of "saving." Yes, Clinton was a tremendous asset, but Obama would have won with or without Clinton's help.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||12/06/2012|
R22, I agree. Or is President Obama supposed to declare a "Bill Clinton Day"? Morons like OP make me wonder how anything gets done in the country.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||12/06/2012|
Because he liked it(the ass that is).
|by Anonymous||reply 28||12/06/2012|
R5 is correct...Romney was an idiot and America saw that.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||12/06/2012|
How sad that the GOP has absolutely no one who can act to save their presidential ambitions.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||12/06/2012|
Bill certainly helped, but Obama won because of the non white vote, remember he lost the white vote 59 to 39. Non whites were going against Romney regardless.
BTW Hillary wont run in 2016 and Bill almost certainly will be dead by then. Hillary may not be around by then as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||12/06/2012|
OP, I think what you mean to say is Clint Eastwood didn't win it for Romney.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||12/06/2012|
R12, you're stupid.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||12/06/2012|
"Bill Clinton shaved Barack Obama's ass. Period."
Well, Bill seems like he'd be up for just about anything.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||12/06/2012|
r8 is right and the polls showed it.
It still amazes me how many people (mostly Republicans of course) want to attribute Obama's win to this or that single factor, or even worse, how so many reacted with shock at the outcome of the election (they really expected Romney to win??!) when the polls were pretty clear for months -- and the final outcome of this election, more than others, was exactly what the polls forecasted.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||12/06/2012|