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Question about these Berlin/Nazi pictures

In the photos showing the streets decorated with Nazi flags and banners, what are those objects hanging in the middle? They look like shower curtains.

by Anonymousreply 3005/11/2014

They do look like shower curtains. My guess is that it's some sort of lighting. The gadget that attaches to the wire looks as though it has wiring going through it. The stuff hanging from the ring looks reflective, so that it would look festive at night under lighting.

by Anonymousreply 111/29/2012

Those Nazi banners are wonder the majority were Nazis.

by Anonymousreply 211/29/2012

It's a May Day Parade, so the shower curtains are small representations of the Maypole. Scroll down, and you'll see a full sized maypole towards the bottom.

(It's a big holiday in Germany)

by Anonymousreply 311/29/2012

[quote]Those Nazi banners are wonder the majority were Nazis.

by Anonymousreply 411/29/2012


by Anonymousreply 511/29/2012

25 years ago you could still see the shadows on the buildings where the Nazi eagles used to be, and many times you would seem the still there, just with the swastika chipped out.

Those are fading fast, so my new game it to look on the facades of the old buildings to try to spot where the flagpole once mounted. You would be surprised how many mounting brackets are still in place.

by Anonymousreply 611/29/2012

What made Germans think they were all that? Isn't it kind of like if Ohio decided they wanted to take over the world?

by Anonymousreply 711/29/2012

Here's a building in Munich where you can still see very easily where the eagle holding a swastika had been mounted (above the entrance). This is the music conservatory in Munich now, but it had been the Führerbau, Hitler's offices.

by Anonymousreply 811/29/2012

If you have the notion, R7, read the Rise and Fall of the THird Reich. It's a great historical novel.

by Anonymousreply 911/29/2012

I will give it to them - those crazy fuckers had flair.

by Anonymousreply 1011/29/2012

Eagle on the Federal Reserve Bank in Koblenz. Swastika has been chipped out, but the eagle is still above the main entrance.

by Anonymousreply 1111/29/2012

Same bank building. Swastikas above windows:

by Anonymousreply 1211/29/2012

They are not shower curtains because there was no such thing as clear plastic back then. They are metal hoops with ribbon and metal foil strips tied to them to glint in the sun (Nazis weren't so stupid as to let mylar balloons float around taking out their own electrical grid as we are).

by Anonymousreply 1311/29/2012

Yeah, I'm going straight to hell for this but I couldn't help noticing how attractive, thin and well-dressed everybody in those pictures was. Quite a contrast to the trashy, fat fuck slob parade we would see in modern crowd shots.

by Anonymousreply 1411/29/2012

Thanks for the recommendation, r9.

by Anonymousreply 1511/29/2012

Americans dressed up back then too.

by Anonymousreply 1611/29/2012

The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich is a poorly-written list of dates and meetings. It also has a nasty homophobic bent, all but blaming Nazism on gay men. With so much literature on the subject, don't bother with that relic.

by Anonymousreply 1711/29/2012

Frankly the Germans were just imitating this.

by Anonymousreply 1811/29/2012

You don't have to be fascist bastards to make a city look pretty, for fuck's sake.

by Anonymousreply 1911/29/2012

You say that and yet America's most beautiful cities are the slavery tainted cesspool of Charleston SC and Santa Fe, NM, where debt peonage was practiced for hundreds of years. Fascism seems to go hand in hand with a certain kind of aesthetic sense.

by Anonymousreply 2011/29/2012

Beauty and evil are not mutually exclusive.

by Anonymousreply 2111/29/2012

Even trying to ignore the history and just look at the swastika as a graphic symbol, it just looks creepy. That should have warned the people that the Nazis were evil.

by Anonymousreply 2211/29/2012

It must have been awesome to be German in those days. They really thought they were the shit. Aryans at the top of the world, weren't they? They believed they were the greatest, most pure people who ever lived. They had great buildings, great music, great theater. They'd lost the first world war but they were roaring to a comeback. With all their swastikas and eagles and men in uniform, they must have felt like the top of the heap.

And in just a few years their cities would burn just like their crematoriums did.

by Anonymousreply 2311/29/2012

They really were shower curtains. Everyone hoped they would inspire Eva Braun and Magda Goebbels to get up in a cherry picker and take a shower in them so all could see, but no such luck.

by Anonymousreply 2411/29/2012

[quote]You don't have to be fascist bastards to make a city look pretty, for fuck's sake.

Maybe not, but it helps.

by Anonymousreply 2511/29/2012

Great music and great theater r23? Really? Have you ever read anything about Nazi Germany? They banned countless things in the arts for being "subversive" and the films and music of that period were banal and lifeless. They were the most anti-culture group who ever lived. The incredible cultural emergence of the Weimar years was stopped overnight.

The loss of the creativity and expression of the Weimar era that the Nazis utterly destroyed is one of the great cultural tragedies of history.

by Anonymousreply 2611/29/2012

Before the Nazis, German culture was very progressive. The Nazis considered the culture to be "too Jewish" and decandent, so they destroyed it.

by Anonymousreply 2711/30/2012

OP, if you're talking about the middle section of the building, it looks like bunting and garlands. It was used a lot in those days for decorative purposes. You always used to see stars and stripes bunting at ball parks on opening day and holidays during baseball season. You rarely see it anymore. The same for garlands. Pine garlands still come out during Christmas season.

I guess you have to be of a certain age to know these things.

by Anonymousreply 2812/01/2012

[quote]Great music and great theater

Uh, ok.

by Anonymousreply 2912/02/2012

The towns of Miesbach and Altoetting SE of Munich were the center of one of the great Marian pilgrimmages in the days before Lourdes. Millions came to the area to worship the Virgin Mary in the form of a miraculous wooden Black Madonna. It was also a place where larch trees grew and in the fall, the larch trees would change color, creating a giant natural swastika on the hillside that would appear and disappear with the change of seasons. To the Nazis this meant that someone had planted them in this configuration, and that meant that the old time Germans had a racial memory of the Indo-European symbol of the swastika before it was known to archaeology, and was therefore proof that the Germans were Aryans.

Furthermore, the Indo-European symbol to the Nazis represented the wheel, which they felt was the first Aryan contribution to civilization and proof of Aryan superiority.

By adopting the swastika as their symbol, they were appealing to the millions of Catholic pilgrms who had been to Altoetting and Miesbach. It was an effort to expand the base of the party by adopting a well-known local symbol in 80% Catholic Munich. Since Miesbach was also a center for preservation of peasant costumes and traditions, and had been a center of nationalist politics for a century, it all fit in with the idea that the Nazis were not a revolutionary group but attempting to revive ancient glories.

Link is a forest swastika later planted near Berlin and recently eradicated by the German government.

by Anonymousreply 3005/11/2014
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