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The Susan Rice debate

Does anyone think the Repukes are pulling this shit about Susan Rice because they want Obama to nominate John Kerry instead?

by Anonymousreply 3811/30/2012

It absolutely makes sense. They would have a shot at his Senate seat. It makes more sense than why they are questioning her to negin with. Why would you not wait to get all the information before a definitive statement was made. At the time it did look like the attacks were from the video. Should she just have shot off her mouth like Romney without getting all the information in?

by Anonymousreply 111/28/2012

True, r1.

by Anonymousreply 211/28/2012

It's a great point, and one I think a lot of us should have considered earlier.

In fact, that awful Susan Collins may have spilled the beans today in her presser after meeting with Rice. She went out of her way to laud John Kerry.

This could have been about Scott Brown all along.

by Anonymousreply 311/28/2012

Are there only two possible candidates, Susan Rice and John Kerry? Isn't there any other individual in the US whom Obama could nominate and who - unlike these two - has good foreign affairs skills?

by Anonymousreply 411/28/2012

Jon Huntsman?

by Anonymousreply 511/28/2012

OP was watching Rachel Maddow. OP, I don't buy it. Republicans are throwing shit at the wall to punish Obama for winning reelection. They aren't smart enough to do this to get Kerry out of his seat. Look at how they ran their 2012 campaigns. They're not smart enough to pull such a stunt with that sort of motive.

by Anonymousreply 611/28/2012

Rice is an incompetent CUNT. Not many Dems even like her.

Dana Milbank called her "ill-equipped" to be SoS. CNN has her favorability rating at 35%.

Obama's gonna waste a fight over her?

by Anonymousreply 711/28/2012

The Republican mudslinging has nothing to do with that CNN favorability rating?

I'd be willing to bet that around 3/4 of Americans couldn't tell you the first fact about Susan Rice or her background.

by Anonymousreply 811/28/2012

Chris Matthews thinks Obama should just forget about Rice.

thinks Obama should let Kerry breeze through confirmation and save the nasty fight for the fiscal cliff.

by Anonymousreply 911/28/2012

I'd rather see Kerry stay in the Senate and not lose the seat.

by Anonymousreply 1011/28/2012

Probably, but the Dems have someone waiting in the wings to run against Brown in M.A. and he has a better than good chance of winning. I think Obama really wants Kerry but the Republicans might have opposed him just to be wicked shits. If Obama lets them think they won the battle over Rice by not nominating her it's a win win for him. I don't know much about Susan Rice but I don't like her based on her looks. Shallow and ridiculous, I know, but there is something unpleasant about her.

by Anonymousreply 1111/28/2012

If you knew more about Rice you would see that she is anything but shallow and ridiculous. She's a scholar who has been doing this since I think the late 80s. I like dthat she told McCain that she's be glad to talk to him about it. McCain is just posturing right now.

If Rice is not nominated then it is a win for the Repugs.

by Anonymousreply 1211/28/2012


her hair needs major work. Always looks like she just rolled out of bed.

by Anonymousreply 1311/28/2012

Someone needs to give John McCain his hot milk and send his 20th century ass to bed.

by Anonymousreply 1411/28/2012

Is Susan a Lesbian.....not in the diesel Janet Napolitano way...but she looks dykey like Condie dykey.

by Anonymousreply 1511/28/2012


And they're embarrassing themselves. Ugh. I'm so over it.

by Anonymousreply 1611/28/2012

I've also noticed that Rice is fond of pant suits.

by Anonymousreply 1711/28/2012

Two things.

One is John Kerry's seat.

The other is this, a quote from my facebook wall:

I love Rachel. However, she is wrong about this one. It is about stopping an African American from becoming Secretary of State. When Condi Rice became SoS, she instantly was considered a viable candidate for president. The GOP fears the same thing will happen with Susan Rice, resulting in a candidate who would get the important minority votes in 2016. Susan Rice is just the first of many African American and Hispanic Democrats who will be attacked like this. Count on it.

by Anonymousreply 1811/28/2012

r18, well-stated.

by Anonymousreply 1911/28/2012

It is well known that Susan Rice does not have the proper temperament for the job.

The word ill-equipped was chosen very carefully by Milbank.....

because it fits.

by Anonymousreply 2011/28/2012

I was referring to myself r12, not Rice. Reading comprehension is not one of your strong suits. And fuck off. I have a right to my opinion.

by Anonymousreply 2111/28/2012

Susan Rice is married to a white man. They have two or three kids and they look virtually white, two have dirty blond hair.

I don't think making your way through higher education ensures that you will be good at your job. Condi Rice was touted as an expert in Russian. When she visited Russia early in the W. Bush administration she was asked to speak in Russian. She only could say yes or no. I don't know what Susan Rice's record is. This seems to be another example of the Obama political team not laying out what she has done instead letting opponents say stuff about her then accuse them of racism.

by Anonymousreply 2211/28/2012

Has Hillary given a date as to when she is giving up the job?

by Anonymousreply 2311/28/2012

Sorry, but I don't buy the conspiracy theories about Scott Brown. You bitches seem to forget that Republicans HATE him because he's a RINO and turned out to be one of the most liberal Republicans in the Senate.

by Anonymousreply 2411/28/2012

No R15, Pic of her parents, husband and children.

by Anonymousreply 2511/28/2012

R17 = Hillary Clinton

by Anonymousreply 2611/28/2012

Mother Jones just reported that Rice has millions invested in Canadian oil companies and banks with heavy interests in oil companies and all are key players in the Keystone Pipeline.

She's done.

by Anonymousreply 2711/28/2012

[quote]Rice is an incompetent CUNT.

Such a well-reasoned argument! You must have been captain of the debate team. And no doubt a charm school graduate.

by Anonymousreply 2811/28/2012

[quote]I'd be willing to bet that around 3/4 of Americans couldn't tell you the first fact about Susan Rice or her background.

You think Americans give a shit about facts?

by Anonymousreply 2911/28/2012

If this was about race, Condi would never have been SOS.

by Anonymousreply 3011/28/2012

I love all of the biracialism in R25's picture.

Her daughter is blonde!

by Anonymousreply 3111/28/2012

You cannot be serious, R30.

Repubs love their token minorities. Ever notice how they never fail to refer to Condi as "Doctor Rice?" And yet Susan Rice, Rhodes Scholar and Oxford Ph.D., is "not very bright."


by Anonymousreply 3211/28/2012

[quote]You think Americans give a shit about facts?

They're starting to realize they're important. More importantly, Mitt Romney's blatant disregard for facts made "Facts" a talking point in the campaign season and that is carrying over.

The AARP just did a commercial with people carrying huge letters -spelling out "FACTS" to the lawn of the House. It's a thing these days, to get people to think about what words actually mean and what real sources of information are.

Each side is going to spin it how they want but they can't ignore it altogether.

by Anonymousreply 3311/28/2012

But if they want Obama to nominate John Kerry, why would they go out of their way to make it inevitable that Obama will now have to nominate Susan Rice just to show that he is not going to be pushed around by them?

Oh, that's right.

Because they're idiots.

by Anonymousreply 3411/28/2012

Rachel's second (or third?) night on this had a piece pointing out that while Scott Brown was running against Elizabeth Warren in heavily Democratic Massachusetts he kept making a big deal about how bipartisan he was and distancing himself from the Republican party.

Rachel then showed clips of the three Republican U.S. Senators he had campaigning for him at different events:

John McCain

Kelly Ayotte

Susan Collins

These are the same three that keep having so many questions for Ambassador Rice that need to be answered--all Scott Brown's colleagues who stumped for him in his losing reelection bid.

Miss Lindsay Graham, who knows what his deal is, except he's clearly John McCain's bitch.

by Anonymousreply 3511/28/2012

her tantrum at the UN and her warmongering disqualify her

by Anonymousreply 3611/30/2012

The Democrats never disappoint...using the race card whenever a person of color is criticized and using foul language - Democrats are despicable people and they always deliver exactly what is expected.

Very Sad

by Anonymousreply 3711/30/2012

I agree with R27; the blatant conflict of interest will sink her more so than the Libya stuff. I know it may be repugs are just being bitches, but I can't help but think she isn't really qualified for the job and Obama is just promoting her because she's been a good soldier. You just don't get the impression from the things you read in the WP & NYT that people respect her. Yeah, she's probably a bitch - but I'm sure there are a lot of bitchy women in those roles, but it seems to come down to respect and the impression that you do a good job.

by Anonymousreply 3811/30/2012
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