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Halle Berry, Gabriel Aubry Daughter, Nahla, Subject Of Children's Services Investigation

Following a Thanksgiving day brawl the Los Angeles County Department of Family and Children Services will be formally re-opening an abuse investigation involving Halle Berry and Gabriel Aubry's 4-year-old daughter, Nahla, reports RadarOnline.

Aubry and Berry's fiance, Olivier Martinez, both ended up in the hospital after they got in a fight on Nov. 22. Aubry was arrested and is now facing battery and misdemeanor charges. Because Nahla was present during the fight, police formally contacted DCFS after Aubry was arrested, a source told the website.

"Nahla wasn't actually involved in the melee, and by all accounts, Halle whisked her out of the driveway as soon as the fight between Olivier and Gabe started. However, DCFS was contacted because there has been a history of allegations of physical abuse. Social workers will be interviewing Halle, Gabriel and Olivier about what happened on Thanksgiving. DCFS must ensure that Nahla's environment is safe," the source explained to RadarOnline.

In January, Aubry was investigated for criminal child endangerment and battery allegations, after the nanny he employed to care for Nahla claimed that he pushed her into a door while she held his daughter in her arms. The case was later dropped upon the recommendation of DCFS, which ultimately found no evidence that Nahla was in any danger.

Berry and Aubry have been battling for custody of their daughter for months and the actress' request to be allowed to move to France with her daughter was recently rejected by a judge, but the fight between Aubry and Martinez could impact future custody decisions.

On Sunday, TMZ reported that though a judge issued an emergency order of protection -- requiring Aubry to stay 100 yards away from Berry, Nahla and Martinez -- Berry is seeking a another restraining order against Aubry, as the emergency order expires on Tuesday.

TMZ has learned that her lawyers are heading to court early this week to make sure the temporary order of protection becomes more permanent. Sources tell the site, Berry's argument is simple: "If Gabriel can't control himself enough to protect Nahla from emotional trauma, it's too risky for him to be around her, Berry or Martinez."

by Anonymousreply 21911/30/2012

Can one sue someone for assaulting them?

by Anonymousreply 111/26/2012

Berry needs a psyche work up. STAT!

by Anonymousreply 211/26/2012

She set him up. Thing are starting to go her way.

There's already a lot of deadbeat dads who don't even care or just gave up because they were battling an uphill battle. Surely, there's some support group who can help him against this multimillionaire batshit-crazy movie star.

by Anonymousreply 311/26/2012

bandy legged cockatoo headed flip flop wearing bore. her boyfriend is gay, lived in place delphine for years and walked the dog with his boyf every day. zzzzz

by Anonymousreply 411/26/2012

the child is not 4, she is 6 and will be 7 next year.

she goes to school. let's start getting real. sorry for frauing the fraudom frausishly and mentioning such frauation, but there it is.

by Anonymousreply 511/26/2012

Olivier provoked Gabriel at Halle's request. Gabriel was dumb enough to fall fo

by Anonymousreply 611/26/2012

This is a brutal beating.

by Anonymousreply 711/26/2012

According to TMZ, Olivier showed up at a school program with Halle the day before, and threatened Gabriel and tried to take Nahla then.

Then next day, Gabriel was surprised when Olivier came outside since the nanny usually handles the hand-off. But Olivier went after him again, screaming at him for costing them $3Million in legal fees, etc., punching him kicking him banging his head on the sidewalk, even threatened to kill him.

Gabriel was out of it, probably lost consciousness but has filed a restraining order and is going to take them back to court. Oliver Martinez is a freeloader and a thug.What a complete piece of shit. Halle needs to check herself. This thing really has gone too far and someone is going to get hurt or killed.This is very ugly.

by Anonymousreply 811/26/2012

Good. Those kids have probably seen a lot of craziness by now. A neutral outsider might be able to intervene on their behalf, even if Halle is a movie star.

by Anonymousreply 911/26/2012

The photos of Gabriel's hands surely indicate that he was not the instigator. Who are these fucking psychos Berry & Martinez?

by Anonymousreply 1011/26/2012

Good point, R10. They showed a photo of Oliver Martinez's hands and they were swollen and all looked oike they had seen use.

by Anonymousreply 1111/26/2012

Does this mean the end of Halle Berry's career? I mean, NO more work? Cloud Atlas tanked. I must admit she looked smoking hot during all of this evil bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 1211/26/2012

Since Gabriel can't work because he was beat up he should sue Olivier for lost wages and whatever else he can get.

by Anonymousreply 1311/26/2012

It won't be the end because she never ages as is still freakishly beautiful.

by Anonymousreply 1411/26/2012

R10 good observation. Olivier was clearly the aggressor.

by Anonymousreply 1511/26/2012

Olivier's hand

by Anonymousreply 1611/26/2012

Any insider gossip about Halle? She always seemed to me to be too nice and goody-goody that it made me wonder if she had a very dark side (and it appears she does),

by Anonymousreply 1711/26/2012

Can't link the individual pics but the 6th & 7th pic at the link shows Gabriel's hands, with out a single bruise

by Anonymousreply 1811/26/2012

Team Aubrey! And I used to think Martinez was hot?

by Anonymousreply 1911/26/2012

Wow, looking at the pics at R18's link there is no way that Aubry hit anyone. Halle sure knows how to bring the crazy. If Olivier was smart he'd run from her.

by Anonymousreply 2011/26/2012

Arent there going to be terrible consequences for her if they find evidence that she arranged this beatdown?

by Anonymousreply 2111/26/2012

I think Halle is more the goading, tantrum type. Then Olivier steps in to "take care of things." He feeds into her "poor beleaguered me" pose. Maybe they plot and scheme. Neither one seems to be acting very smart right now. Do they really think their story will be believed? The physical evidence says no.

As I said, things seem to have crossed a line. Olivier is clearly acting thuggish. I fear this is going to end very badley for someone. I feel very osrry for Gabriel. They are trying to break him. How can he fight her when she has financial resources?

by Anonymousreply 2211/26/2012

There are many children in this world that would want the attention Nahla's father gives her.

Fuck Halle for trying to stop that.

by Anonymousreply 2311/26/2012

Exactly, r23. Well said.

by Anonymousreply 2411/26/2012

I wonder if Halle's team are aware that the general public is not on her side in this...

by Anonymousreply 2511/26/2012

So Aubry...who was beaten to a pulp apparently...was charged. But the evil fuck who beat him up WASN'T? It really shows you the power of celebrities.

Berry is completely toxic. It's sickening.

by Anonymousreply 2611/26/2012

We know it's Halle who is fucked up. Two hit and runs. Tried to kill herself and her dog in a garage. She's about due for "the change" which won't be pretty for her. Hopefully she's on some kind of hormone therapy. A judge just needs to be aware that she tried to kill her pet charge also while attempting suicide. She opted to murder her pet when deciding to take her life. Who does that?

by Anonymousreply 2711/26/2012

She did? I must've missed that.

by Anonymousreply 2811/26/2012

Damn, r27, I hadn't read that she'd done that. Wow. All the more reason for her to lose custody altogether. If she doesn't get her way she very well might be one of those parents who murders the kid and then offs herself as a "if I can't have her, no one can!" statement of ultimate selfishness and narcissism.

by Anonymousreply 2911/26/2012

Didn't she also have a couple of 'hit and runs', or was it just the one?

by Anonymousreply 3011/26/2012

I lost respect for her after the first hit and run. Her excuses was that she was worried about her career.

Hello Bitch! Your not the only one with a career!

In any other business, she would have a hard time finding a job after all those antics. Yet in Hollywood, "oh, we have to give her another chance"

Really? What about the other 97% of the actors unemployed and currently looking for work who are not f-ed up?

by Anonymousreply 3111/26/2012

I was just standing there all Cafe au lai, when Gabriel comes up into our Cul-de-sac looking all Cherchez la femme. So Oliver walked out there like a sexy Tour de force when he hears my ex say "Bitch, Merci beaucoup!". So Oliver grabbed him by his Pret-a-porter duds and whopped him like he was Papier mache.

by Anonymousreply 3211/26/2012

Holy shit...Olivier beat the mess out of Gabriel. That whole throuple is fucked up.

by Anonymousreply 3311/26/2012

Should we start a legal fund for Gabriel?

by Anonymousreply 3411/26/2012

The TMZ article said Aubrey never mentioned the details of what happened and that he was the one that was attacked. Um - could it be that he was a little out of it after such a substantial face beating?

by Anonymousreply 3511/26/2012

When did she try to murder her dog and commit suicide?

by Anonymousreply 3611/26/2012

Supposedly after her marriage to David Justice failed.

Does that make sense? She tried to kill herself because her marriage to an "abuser" failed.

It was just more drama queen BS from the batshit nut.

by Anonymousreply 3711/26/2012

Of course, on the TMZ tv show Sleazebag Harvey Leving towed the Berry line and said that Aubry threw the first punch. Then made fun of his model face getting smashed up. Honestly, I wish someone would take a bat to that creep Levin, he's total scum.

Again, it amazes me that Martinez completely beat him up, yet Aubry was charged. There's no way on Earth this could be construed as self defense.

by Anonymousreply 3811/26/2012

Levin also loves the Kardashians.

He's a pig

by Anonymousreply 3911/26/2012

I'm impressed that while it's Oliver that resorted to violence when he beat Aubry to a pulp, R20 still perceives Oliver as a victim of Halle! That is some brilliant sexism at work. Bravo!

by Anonymousreply 4011/26/2012

R40...I think you missed the point completely. COMPLETELY. She has been desperate to get the child away from the father, even to the point of accusing him of racism. She's made strong allegations against everyone she's broken up with, always claiming to be the victim. There are the two hit and runs, that bizarre suicide attempt...she's not all there. How do you think Aubry was the one who got charged? Because of Martinez's stardom? C'mon, get a clue here.

by Anonymousreply 4111/26/2012

There's already 2 other threads about this, why another thread?

by Anonymousreply 4211/26/2012

Just to annoy the shit out of you personally, r42.

by Anonymousreply 4311/26/2012

She's looking more and more like an unhinged bitch who's willing to resort to anything to get her way.

by Anonymousreply 4411/26/2012

This is exactly what Halle wanted. It's sick how she has manipulated people.

by Anonymousreply 4511/26/2012

Oh right. Lets demonize the black chick even though two white men were fighting.

Typical DL

by Anonymousreply 4611/26/2012

Quit with the racial trolling, r46. The posters who think that Aubrey got set up would think it if Halle were white. She's bat shit crazy. Crazy doesn't know from color or race. Crazy speaks for itself. And she is craaazy. There is plenty more to come and it will be interesting to see if the security cameras on her property have been erased or were conveniently off during the beat down.

by Anonymousreply 4711/26/2012

Holy crap, that photo of Aubry's face! How hard would would you have to hit someone to cause that kind of trauma?

by Anonymousreply 4811/27/2012

R5, get your facts straight. Nahla is 4. She was born March 16, 2008. Thus, she'll be 5 next year.

by Anonymousreply 4911/27/2012

Gabriel has to use all his cards. He should threaten her with giving an interview/writing a bio that exposes ALL her shit and dark secrets.

They are shamelessly trying to steal his daughter. If indeed he threw the first punch he was obviously set up an provoked. He's desperate because he sees what this monster Halle is trying to do.

by Anonymousreply 5011/27/2012

I'm glad I've been proven right. I kept asking "how do we know it's Gabe who attacked"? Gabriel's face looks like a punching bag and no bruised hands while Olivier is the opposite.

It's all lies by this loony Halle. Gabriel should sue both of them for everything he possibly can including defamation, persecution, emotional and bodily harm and sole custody.

by Anonymousreply 5111/27/2012

I wouldn't want Olivier Martinez around my daughter either. He's a fraud, presenting himself as amiable and underneath it he resorts to menacing, thuggish behavior? Fuck him. Nahla is Gabriel's daughter. Period. And unless Gabriel had a brain transplant, he is still the same guy he was when he lived with Halle for seven damn years.

by Anonymousreply 5211/27/2012

I also concur Olivier lost his attractiveness inside and out.

by Anonymousreply 5311/27/2012

[quote]Just to annoy the shit out of you personally..

In more ways then one. Don't fall for it.

by Anonymousreply 5411/27/2012

We should boycott her movies -- but then again, as long as she makes utter crap like Cloud Atlas, we already do.

She was always a pretty girl with very little talent. Pretty got her a long way, but it couldn't help her outrun the crazy. She is appalling.

I hope her team is keeping up with this. No amount of spin will make America respect her.

by Anonymousreply 5511/27/2012

Halle will never work in this town again. Might as well move to France, BUT leave the kid behind.

by Anonymousreply 5611/27/2012

Anyone want to predict the next move? We all expected the accusations & counter accusations. But I mean the NEXT move? I have severl ideas.

It is not beyond the realm of probability that Halle & Olivier will take Nahla and "flee" to France. I would bet this is on the "to do" list. She could tell the judge they went to see Olivier's family for Christmas and wanted things to valm down for poor baby Nahla.

They will stay in France for as long as possible unless either one has "work" commitments. Gabriel will accuse them of kidnapping her. The advantage to Halle is that she will establish France as a second home for Nahla.

Another idea I had, since Olivier has now proven himself to be a worm who'd do and say anything, including lying to the police, is that somehow, Gabriel will be set up. Cocaine bust is most likely. He will be pulled over by police and they will "find" drugs in his car. This will blow his custody case to shit, and take him out of the picture.

I think Gabriel has been trying to stay rational but they are pushing him. If I were advising him, I'd get real agressive and stop playing defense with Halle.They are trying to break him.

by Anonymousreply 5711/27/2012

What's the story behind the nanny saying Aubry pushed her when she had the child in her arms. They all seem a little trashy but I don't blame the guy for wanting his child to stay in the United States. Why is it okay for her to take her from him? It reminds me of the Alec Baldwin mess with his daughter. If you ever see him interviewed about it, he is very sincere. His whole point is that fathers should have rights too and not assume that the mother is always right.

by Anonymousreply 5811/27/2012

COuld Halle Berry be the abuser? if so, somebody should cut a n---er bitch.

by Anonymousreply 5911/27/2012

R59. Nice try but not spelling out the whole word doesn't make it acceptable. Please go kill yourself you racist asshole.

by Anonymousreply 6011/27/2012

r57 I'm not sure she can do that. I don't know what the extradition laws are in case of kidnapping kids (not from a 3ed world country/war zone etc).

I think her fame works against her in this case because unlike a nobody, she can't take her and disappear. Also, I think public opinion is very much against her this time.

She also has her career to think of and if she flees, I can't imagine she can come back w/o being arrested and she won't have a film career in France, lol.

by Anonymousreply 6111/27/2012

Don't let him bait you, R60.

by Anonymousreply 6211/27/2012

[quote] I don't know what the extradition laws are in case of kidnapping kids (not from a 3ed world country/war zone etc).

Ask Kelly Rutherford. Her ex took the kids on vacation to France. And never came back.

She has been waging an international fight to get her kids back, but to no avail.

by Anonymousreply 6311/27/2012

Don't worry r62. When I come across a racist trolll, I like to politely invite it to commit suicide, then I move on.

by Anonymousreply 6411/27/2012

Well, all thru this it seems like Gabriel has been trying to take the high road. I have never seen anything unbecoming in his conduct. Even when they were first spltting up, he was always a gentleman. He needs to stop being nice.

by Anonymousreply 6511/27/2012

r63 Well, there are differences.

The two women are not of the same level of fame.

Halle isn't French.

Martinez isn't the child's father.

Halle's career is in the US. If she does this, she's OVER! The second she lands in the US again (and maybe other countries), she goes to jail. She'll end up on Interpol's most wanted list.

by Anonymousreply 6611/27/2012

[quote] Martinez isn't the child's father.

That would change the minute Martinez and Halle get married.

Halle would be considered a French citizen, and she would make only French films.

Look at Catherine Denuvue, her career in French films is still going strong.

The statute of limitations would expire once Nala turns 18.

Trust me, Halle has figured this all out.

by Anonymousreply 6711/27/2012

Let's not forget Roman Polanski, he has a good career, even winning an Oscar without stepping one foot into the US.

Maybe Halle will give up her career, to just raise Nala in the countryside of France,

by Anonymousreply 6811/27/2012

R66. If she goes to France she can always make movies with that kid fucker Polanski.

by Anonymousreply 6911/27/2012

r59's idiot post sounds like a line from a really bad movie.

by Anonymousreply 7011/27/2012

Recession in France.No one is making any movies over there. Martinez career in HW is pretty much over

by Anonymousreply 7111/27/2012

Halle Berry is at that age where roles in her age bracket are slim to none.

I could see her putting her career on hold to raise her daughter, waiting out the statute of limitations.

by Anonymousreply 7211/27/2012

Halle should be locked away, she's a crazy bitch,

by Anonymousreply 7311/27/2012

I'm imagining Aubry standing in for Gere in this scene:

by Anonymousreply 7411/27/2012

Look at this pic of Gabriel

doesn't look like he started the fight

by Anonymousreply 7511/27/2012

Does she even speak French? I doubt it.

by Anonymousreply 7611/27/2012

r67 Halle isn't Deneuve. I didn't mean to say French cinema isn't good enough but what makes you think SHE would have a career in it? Also, they pay pocket change compared to HW.

She would literally be a kidnapper and pretty much very limited in where she can go outside of France.

Also, I don't know what happens if she does that and even if she waits for 14 years, wouldn't she still be considered a kidnapper in the US?

by Anonymousreply 7711/27/2012

Molly Ringwald isn't french, yet she starred in her share of french cinema.

Halle has money in the bank, she doesn't need to work again if she doesn't want to.

[quote] wouldn't she still be considered a kidnapper in the US?

Statute of limitations, it will run out after 14 years.

by Anonymousreply 7811/27/2012

Let's be honest. Halle Berry could never pull off acting in a French film - well, maybe porn. She is not a good actress. She won an Oscar in a week year for Best Actress candidates, at a time when the Academy was on a roll awarding Best Actress Oscars to the hottest actress in the bunch.

Halle and Olivier rushed out after the fight to file their restraining order and to place the blame for this on Aubrey. However, that was most likely preemptive. Anyone with a brain can see that Aubrey was beaten and that Olivier was the beater. Aubrey's injuries are to his face, Olivier's to his hands.

by Anonymousreply 7911/27/2012

[quote] She won an Oscar in a weak year for Best Actress candidates.

Sissy Spacek and Judi Dench are weak actresses?

[quote] at a time when the Academy was on a roll awarding Best Actress Oscars to the hottest actress in the bunch

So Halle was more hotter than Nicole Kidman and Renee Zellweger?

by Anonymousreply 8011/27/2012

I think a case could be made that since Martinez is capable of doing that much damage to a man, what could he do to a little girl when he gets angry?

I met Berry when she was married to Dave Justice. We were on a redeye from LA to Atlanta while the Braves were playing in the World Series I think (I don't follow baseball). She was stunning. At the end of the flight the rest of us looked crappy, and she still looked like a million bucks. Another passenger told her that the Braves had won, and she said 'oh good, that means he'll be in a good mood'. She sat next to a guy who had an 'I hate black people' aura about him, and by the end of the flight you could tell he was absolutely charmed by her.

by Anonymousreply 8111/27/2012

She is close friends with Sandra Ferguson (Amanda, Another World)

by Anonymousreply 8211/27/2012

R81, was it 1995? That was the year they won, and she was still married Justice, whom she divorced in '97.

by Anonymousreply 8311/27/2012

No, we don't know that Olivier threw the first punch, even if he definitely threw the last. Aubrey could well have taken a swing at him, assuming that he's the usual pretty-boy pussy actor... like himself.

How long before Martinez turns those fists on Halle? This has brought him the worst publicity of his life, he looks like a thug and a stooge.

by Anonymousreply 8411/27/2012

r81 here. Yes, that sounds about right. I flew first class a lot from 92-96, then my life changed a lot. Much happier, but no more first class flights!

by Anonymousreply 8511/27/2012

Martinez was photographed the next day in a liquor store buying booze. Not the smartest thing to do if you just beat the shit out of Nahla's Daddy. Aubrey's lawyer can insinuate that Martinez was in a liquored up rage and attacked him for no reason. If there is a security tape that shows Martinez as the aggressor could Halle lose custody? Or could Aubrey ask the judge for a restraining to keep Martinez away from Nahla?

by Anonymousreply 8611/27/2012

r80 - Spacek and Dench are great, but Spacek had the "is she really supporting?" tag that year, and Dench's film didn't really take off. I agree that both Spacek and Dench are better actresses. The contest that year was between Spacek and Berry, with Kidman a potential upset. In fact Spacek won the Globe (Drama, against Berry) and Berry the SAG and BAFTA. I remember it well because I loved "In the Bedroom" and was hoping Spacek would win. When Berry won the talk was she had a much larger role in her film, was better than she normally is but most of all, that she was stunningly beautiful and the academy has a history of going for that. There are some that would go further and say she won in a year that the Academy bestowed a lot of awards on black actors, but I for one don't think that played in.

by Anonymousreply 8711/27/2012

Nahla is a wee girl and I am sorry but she does not deserve her dad getting the shit beat out of him by her mother's most current boyfriend at all. That kid is more than likely not being allowed to see her own father in light of this and that is just horrible. Lord knows what that child has been told or what she is thinking right now.

Halle Berry's goose is cooked in terms of her running off to France with her most current boyfriend and child. The judge already denied that once, and now there is no way to appeal. They can get married for all the fuck anyone should care. The thing is that since Halle is the head of household a good judge will look at how her most current boyfriend contributes to the household (fiscally to a small degree, but most importantly in terms of proactive involvement) and that guy sure does look to be a piece of work on that end!

I'm a Lesbian who is on team Nahla and her daddy. I love the ladies and respect all men, but Jesus Christ on the cross is Halle Berry ever batshit!

by Anonymousreply 8811/27/2012

Martinez was photographed going to the liquor store 7:30 in the morning. What kind of a person goes out to buy alcohol that early, especially after beating the shit out of somebody the day before?

Also, where are the video cameras? If they proved Halle in the right, she would have already presented them, I'm sure. And if there mysteriously isn't video tape of the incident, then why were the cameras off? Didn't Halle just have trouble with a stalker? I find it hard to believe there aren't cameras taping that driveway.

by Anonymousreply 8911/27/2012

[quote]In fact Spacek won the Globe (Drama, against Berry) and Berry the SAG and BAFTA.

Berry didn't win BAFTA. Naturally, Dench won for "Iris." In fact, Berry wasn't nominated that year 'cause "Monster's Ball" wasn't released in Britain 'til 2002, but she was nominated the following year but lost to Kidman for "The Hours."

The breakdown: Critics Choice (Spacek won, Berry wasn't nominated); Golden Globe Drama (Spacek won); SAG (Berry won), BAFTA (Dench won); Oscar (Berry won).

You're right, the contest was between Spacek and Berry, with Spacek being the favored one. I remember the Vegas bookies were predicting Spacek.

by Anonymousreply 9011/27/2012

Oh I hope that cunt DOES fly off to France and never returns. And since she's a 1%er gets that 75% tax that's starting in January 2013!

by Anonymousreply 9111/27/2012

You are correct r90 about Berry not winning BAFTA. I said that without looking. I think I was thinking of a critics award she won or something. Thanks for clarifying.

by Anonymousreply 9211/27/2012

[quote] Statute of limitations, it will run out after 14 years

If she kidnaps the kid and stays away then the offense is ongoing.

Statutes of limitation for criminal offenses are tolled while the accused is out of the jurisdiction. You have to be available as a defendant to avail yourself of it.

Very interesting that the attempted suicide and attempted dogicide were after her divorce from Justice and allegedly a reaction to that divorce. Was that a dog that Justice cared about or loved? If so, then it was to punish him. Just like she could do with their daughter.

This woman is truly a danger to her daughter.

I would take that child away so fast. It should be clear that Halle should not have primary custody - maybe not even any kind of custodial custody of that child - and just be allowed vists - maybe even supervised visits.

by Anonymousreply 9311/27/2012

[quote] If she kidnaps the kid and stays away then the offense is ongoing.

Tell that to Kelly Rutherford's ex who has done the same thing.

by Anonymousreply 9411/27/2012

Martinez is a creepy motherfucker with a mean looking face.

by Anonymousreply 9511/27/2012

[quote] Critics Choice (Spacek won, Berry wasn't nominated);


Halle Berry won the Best Actress award from National Board of Review.

Sissy Spacek won the NY and LA Film Critics Awards

Naomi Watts (for Mulholland Dr.) won the National Society of Film Critics Best Actress Awards.

Those are the four MAIN critics awards.

The Critics Choice awards were still fairly new back them, but the film critics awards mentioned above are the top four.

by Anonymousreply 9611/27/2012

Sad. There are no heroes in this story.

by Anonymousreply 9711/27/2012

R96, I was referring to the Broadcast Film Critics Association Awards, colloquially known as the Critics' Choice. Their nominees for Best Actress for 2001 were Spacek (who won), Nicole Kidman ("Moulin Rouge"), and Renée Zellweger ("Bridget Jones's Diary").

by Anonymousreply 9811/27/2012

[quote] Tell that to Kelly Rutherford's ex who has done the same thing.

Not sure how that relates to a SOL. I think you're mixing apples and oranges which can only be done properly with vodka.

by Anonymousreply 9911/27/2012

Shocking development

[quote]Aubry said he told officers to check the security camera footage after Martinez claimed it was Aubry who attacked him.

[quote]"Apparently the cameras were repositioned so it's not on tape," a source told The News Monday. “That’s a sign that someone’s innocent. He was begging to get the tape."

by Anonymousreply 10011/27/2012

If the link at r100 is correct then it would appear that the attack was premeditated, and if I was in Aubrey's shoes I would press assault charges and sue them both.

by Anonymousreply 10111/27/2012

Not only should Aubry press charges, but he should get a restraining on behalf of the child as well. He needs to protect his child from her mother's boyfriend if her mother is refusing to do so.

by Anonymousreply 10211/27/2012

It's a good thing that there aren't actual abused children in LA so that Child Services can waste their time on two parents who use their kid to fight with each other.

by Anonymousreply 10311/27/2012

It's obvious from everything (even before Gabriel asked for the tapes) it's all lies from Halle and Martinez. The latter should be arrested for grave assault. I bet Halle will get away with it although she's probably the one who put him up to it and is now covering up for it and messing with the evidence.

Right now they are criminals who are getting away with it all because they are famous, rich and good looking (not Martinez but he used to be).

by Anonymousreply 10411/27/2012

I can't wait to see how this all plays out. Olivier looks like a bulbous alcoholic. Gabriel is (was) hot before the beating.

by Anonymousreply 10511/27/2012

I wonder how her PR people are handling this. I don't think I've ever seen the volume of comments (1,100+) on the Daily Mail articles about her and it's 95% negative.

I don't think she'd been seen this negatively until now. It seems public opinion has turned on a dime for her. It is a PR nightmare, especially if it keeps unfolding at this rate.

by Anonymousreply 10611/27/2012

Ms. Berry needs to get on the phone with Madonna and ask her how she handled a similar situation - like an adult. I'm no fan of Madonna, but she did have a child with Carlos Leon (actor/personal trainer), and there's never been any scandals in the papers regarding sharing custody of their daughter. Even, after, Madge married and moved to England with her daughter. Never heard of Guy getting into scrapes with Carlos or vice versa...

by Anonymousreply 10711/27/2012

r107 I completely forgot about that. I do loathe Madonna but I don't think I ever heard of any problems between them two regarding their daughter. Whatever else Madonna is, she seem to be a good mom or at least tries.

by Anonymousreply 10811/27/2012

I just woke up and this situation had me thinking about my own childhood. Of course I'm decades older than Nahla but my mother poisoned her father and my stepfather about my father. And scenes like this with Gabriel and Aubrey happened frequently.

I remember at around 2 or 3 my grandfather threatened violence on my father, who never responded to those threats.

And my stepfather and my father arguing for hours. Every single time I got picked up.

I am a girl. I am very damaged by that kind of bs and I know it is my mother who poisoned everyone about my father. Halle IS doing the same thing.

by Anonymousreply 10911/27/2012

If this was premeditated, it was cooked up by a complete idiot. It's not helping Berry in her child custody suit - if I were a judge I'd tell her that theres no way the kid can stay in the same house as Olivier! And if it was premeditated, they neglected to line up witnesses a judge would believe, and a CGI team to make the security tape work in their favor. No, I think it wasn't premeditated, it happened because they're all assholes.

I don't know why so many of you are assuming Aubrey isn't an asshole. Halle doesn't take men unless they're horrible human beings.

by Anonymousreply 11011/27/2012

Didnt Halle get in some car accident and kill someone? Or hit and run or something? She gets away with everything

by Anonymousreply 11111/27/2012

[quote]Didnt Halle get in some car accident and kill someone?

Nope, that was me!

by Anonymousreply 11211/27/2012

[quote]I don't know why so many of you are assuming Aubrey isn't an asshole. Halle doesn't take men unless they're horrible human beings.

I think this incident is going to prompt some reevaluation of whether her exes are really the horrible human beings she's described them to be. Right now, other than her allegations about pushing the nanny and racism, we don't have evidence that he is one or not.

by Anonymousreply 11311/27/2012

Gabriel was good enough to share her bed for seven years. He was good enough, that after three years together, she decided this was the man she wanted to have a child with. Her first and only child. Suddenly he's a racist and a demon? I think not.

I definitely believe Halle and Olivier conspire together, but it is entirely likely Olivier decided to take matters into his own hands, and try to bully and threaten and provoke Gabriel.

I know this. Gabirel won the court case. Halle and Olivier lost. They had a motive to be pissed off and get physical, Gabriel didn't. I think Olivier mistook Gabriel's forebearance for weakness and thought he could treat him like a pussy.

Those photographs are horrible. If Halle had one shred of decency in her, she send Olivier Martinez packing. He is living off her so He isn't going to go quietly. He is probably at the end of his rope, and pissed off things aren't working out for him. I think if he could do mortal harm to Gabriel he would, his behavior seems very des[erate.

by Anonymousreply 11411/27/2012

r110 Why should I assume Gabriel is awful? So far, he's the one coming out smelling like roses and she emerges as a raging psycho bitch.

Some men fall for some women BAD even when they are not beautiful women or rich like Halle. Seen it a million times. It makes them fools in love/lust but not necessarily awful people. To connect it to what r109, I saw it in my best friend's home. Her mother was a raging loon who ruined that whole family and 4 kids. None of them graduated from HS and couldn't hold a job for long. The mother incited and poisoned them against the dad their whole childhood. The only reason none of them became a criminal or drug addict was because the dad insisted on not divorcing or leaving the house until the last of them was an adult. He basically saved them from a lot worse just by being there. He fell in love with the crazy bitch when he was very young and she was incredibly beautiful and he paid for it for decades later but he at least saved his children from worse fates. I hope they appreciate it now as adults.

I've seen it in other cases too.

You don't have to be a terrible person to fall for the wrong person. You make a few mistakes when you're in love and if that includes kids, it's very difficult to put them behind and just go on.

by Anonymousreply 11511/27/2012

Yeah but R59, who do you think carried the gene for your Aspergers?

by Anonymousreply 11611/27/2012

Ugh, the Brad Pitt/Angelina Jolie Female First message forum has dried up and died so all the freaks have come here so they can post anonymously. Can't be bothered starting up yet another troll identity on out of here!

by Anonymousreply 11711/27/2012

r114 I think Gabriel's big mistake was not documenting everything, being "wired" while talking to Halle or anybody from her camp and even carrying a hidden camera every time he meets with them. He should have known the nutty pair would be pissed after losing in court and would try to do something. Had he done that this week, he'd have enough evidence to get that kid for good.

by Anonymousreply 11811/27/2012

If the "motor court" (ugh, she's so pretentious) security cameras were moved, there's your premeditation. The photos are evidence. Martinez probably has no $$ so Halle will either fork over the settlement or send the frog back to Paris on a steamer.

by Anonymousreply 11911/27/2012

R118 Good point.

I'm firmly on Aubry's side but he should have anticipated some dirty trick. But, in fairness, he's a fashion model, not a rocket scientist (or a psycho drama diva).

by Anonymousreply 12011/27/2012

i hope that the investigation shows her up for the selfish manipulative person she is. even better i hope she gets taken to court and convicted so she can get her comeuppance and go to jail along with olivier

i hope gabriel gets full custody.

by Anonymousreply 12111/27/2012

r111 kinda

by Anonymousreply 12211/27/2012

Olivier MArtinez is guilty of assault. Charges need to be brought. There needs to be an investigation. If the security tapes weren't confiscated byt the police, at the time, then every minute they are languishing is another opportunity to tamper with them. It is also possible Olvier messed with them before he strutted out of the house to "deal with" Gabriel.

The thing that worries me is that the photographs we are looking at belong to paparrazzi. They aren't police photos. Hopefully they were taken in the hospital or by some professional. Because they are evidence of injury.

The photographs of Martinez's hands and Gabriel's hands, are a glaring contrast. Martinez's face and Gabriel's face as well. Gabriel's lawyer should insist a grand jury be empaneled.

I can understand why the judge allowed the Restraining Order against Gabriel to stand today.It will be lifted in a couple of days. Gabriel's face is frightening to look at. Can you imagine how it would look to a four yr old?

For his own good, Gabriel needs to stay away from that toxic and clearly dangerous environment, and he needs to get his kid out of there. I'd bet there's a lot of tension and arguing going on in Halle's house right now. How can Halle live with what she is doing to Gabriel. This went too far.

by Anonymousreply 12311/27/2012

i am from a prety rough area so i have seen people get a good kicking. even if olivier is an ex-boxer he did not defend himself but he kicked the shit out of gabriel.

anyone with a face that ends up looking like that has had the shit beaten out of them.

if olivier had just punched him in the face and a decent boxer would have just landed a solid upper cut on the chin once or twice, gabe would have been out cold.

but two black eyes, busted lip, busted ribs.. that was a lot more than self defence.

the quote below from the linked article

'“When you see the judge, you’re going to tell him you’re going to Paris or I’m going to kill you. You're going to Paris, you're going to get your $20 grand a month in child support,” Martinez allegedly threatened. “I’m not just some f---ing actor. You don’t know me.”

i have no doubt is true. this is the type of threat that someone who is a nasty piece of work would say.

he believes he is his character Alex Montel from SWAT.. I'm surprise he did not offer Gabe $100,000,00 dorrarrs!!!

careful Gabriel he will shank you next.

by Anonymousreply 12411/27/2012

I've been wondering the same, R106. If she's let it get this far, though, maybe her career is a sinking ship. Plus it isn't like women her age get offered many roles.

by Anonymousreply 12511/27/2012

So, TMZ is saying that Gabriel got shut down in court today regarding the restraining order, but Radar says he was victorious. Which one is correct?

by Anonymousreply 12611/27/2012

The TMZ story is the one that is correct.

by Anonymousreply 12711/27/2012

Is Aubry still working with a modeling agency? I'd like to be the lawyer who takes his case. Martinez is a savage.

by Anonymousreply 12811/27/2012

Other publications are saying Gabriel was victorious too.

by Anonymousreply 12911/27/2012

an actual newspaper said he won (for now):

Aubry went back to court today in Los Angeles, Nov. 27, to get his visitation with daughter Nahla reinstated. The judge ruled in his favor, so Aubry can now see his daughter. The judge also ordered certain protective precautions for Nahla, who sadly is caught in the middle of all this. The ruling today overrules the restraining order given to Martinez after the altercation

That says a lot; if they honestly thought he was really the one that started the fight, I doubt they'd give him visitations back without some kind of social services intervention first.

by Anonymousreply 13011/27/2012

r130 - do you have a link? This is going to make Halle very angry.

by Anonymousreply 13111/27/2012

and another actual newspaper said he lost

Gabriel Aubry has failed in his bid to overturn an order banning him from seeing Nahla.

The French-Canadian model appealed to a Los Angeles court on Tuesday to lift an emergency protective order issued in the wake of his brutal Thanksgiving fight with Olivier Martinez.

The order banned him from going within a 100 yards of the four-year-old, her mother Halle Berry and Halle's finance Martinez.

Instead it will now expire on Thursday. Initially the order ran until December 3, but the judge acknowledged a clerical error meant it was only valid for two more days.

Should Halle wish to extend the order than she will have to appeal to the court by Thursday.

Initial reports erroneously stated that the order had been lifted.

The ruling came as Halle was seen looking deep in thought and shielding herself behind her sunglasses as she dropped her daughter off at school.

by Anonymousreply 13211/27/2012

They were married:

Halle Berry called French model Gabriel Aubry her beau from 2005 to 2010, but were the pair more than just boyfriend and girlfriend? According to a recent report from Extra, the ex-couple may have been secretly married. Aubry referred to Berry as his "ex-wife" in court papers he filed Monday in order to obtain a restraining order against her current fiancé, French actor Olivier Martinez. News of their possible secret marriage comes days after Aubry and Martinez's Thanksgiving Day brawl. Aubry was arrested on battery charges Thursday after getting into a fight with Martinez outside Berry's Hollywood hills home. Aubry was dropping off Nahla -- his 4-year-old daughter with Berry -- when the incident occurred. Following the altercation, a judge issued an emergency protective order against Aubry that forces him to stay 100 yards away from Berry, their daughter and her fiancé. Martinez maintains that Aubry started the fight, but Aubry reportedly insists that it was actually Martinez who threw the first punch. Earlier in November, a judge denied Berry's request to permanently move Nahla to France to live with her and Martinez.

But Nahla is hardly the first celebrity kid to get caught in the cross-fire of her parents' messy split.

by Anonymousreply 13311/27/2012

Why is TMZ always Halle friendly?

by Anonymousreply 13411/27/2012

Valez Mitchell on CNN is finally starting to tell Gabriel's side....

Said that when Gabriel and Nahla pulled up to the house, Nahla said I'm scared.

Tyke probably had overheard her mommy and that French dick plotting the whole thing.

by Anonymousreply 13511/27/2012

Not to derail this thread but I was wondering if someone might, kindly post a new thread for me. It was just something I thought up, to mich time on my hands, lol.

Celebrity's secret children I've always heard this person or that one is paying off secret baby momma's...

Ryan Phillipee has a biracial child? Janet Jackson has a by now adult child stashed away? Brad Pitt impregnated some model?

What do you guys think?Which Celebritys have Little bambinos tucked away? What rumors have you heard?

Thanks to anyone who might be so kind as to post this.

by Anonymousreply 13611/27/2012

Nahla senses danger, and she is afraid of Olivier. I guess this is life imnitating art loosely speaking. Olivier is acting just like that gangstewr thug he played. He isn't a very good actor, so maybe he wasn't acting in SWAT.

I wonder if Halle finally got in too deep with the real wrong man? Olivier is on the downward slope of his career. He's famous for being famous now. Halle is his last paycheck. He's a desperate violent man.

by Anonymousreply 13711/27/2012

R136 done!

by Anonymousreply 13811/27/2012

Seems to me that Olivier is violent. Violent is not good for anyone. Too much drama going on in that house.

by Anonymousreply 13911/27/2012

Shut the fuck up, R64. You're every bit as obnoxious as the asshole who didn't spell out the word NIGGER.

by Anonymousreply 14011/27/2012

Ironically Halle grew up in a house filled with violence and her mother being beaten-up

Halle always said she would never bring a child into that environment.

by Anonymousreply 14111/27/2012

as i said in r124 .. i rest my case

"It all happened so fast and so suddenly; I did not see Mr Martinez's actions coming and thus I was not ready for it and was not able to defend myself," Aubry wrote.

by Anonymousreply 14211/27/2012

You know, because this is being played out in the Tabloids, and because it involves Hollywood types, I wonder if the police aren't too casual and too dismissive.

It should have been obvious to any officer called to the scene Gabriel got the worst of it, and Olivier's hands were sore from punching him. How did Gabriel's ribs get broken if not from being kicked.

Olivier was in a rage and out of control. So why didn't video get confiscated? Why wasn't Martinez charged? Are LA cops really that stupid?

Of course Martinez would seize the initiative and claim the other guy started it. A fourth grader could figure that out. Martinez should be under arrest and charged. This is too ugly.

by Anonymousreply 14311/27/2012

r143 - the investigation is underway. I am hoping that will mean the truth will come out. Perhaps I'm an optimist but even online people are clearly on Aubrey's side based on the evidence. Since there are no videos, the evidence of injury will be the most powerful, since the testimony from both sides will wash each other out.

by Anonymousreply 14411/27/2012

I'm the one that has posted on this subject before regarding a FOAF that knew Eric Benet.

Halle is batshit. According to the FOAF Benet agreed to the media disparaging him and saying that he cheated on Halle, just to be rid of Halle. She is that cray cray. According to the FOAF (an AA person) Halle is seriously insane. I wonder if she's bi-polar and/or borderline. She lies. And, I'm trying to remember the other parts...I believe the FOAF said she is violent, Halle is violent.

by Anonymousreply 14511/27/2012

Actually, fuck *you* R140.

by Anonymousreply 14611/27/2012

R143..LA cops used to party with OJ back when he was beating his wife. Celebrities can literally get away with virtually anything.

by Anonymousreply 14711/27/2012

[quote]Halle is batshit. According to the FOAF Benet agreed to the media disparaging him and saying that he cheated on Halle, just to be rid of Halle. She is that cray cray. According to the FOAF (an AA person) Halle is seriously insane. I wonder if she's bi-polar and/or borderline. She lies. And, I'm trying to remember the other parts...I believe the FOAF said she is violent, Halle is violent.

I made reference to your post about this, R145. I think it was in the "Halle brings out the crazy" thread.

It sounded like Benet was a decent sort, though the PR machine would have caught up if he had any indiscretions. If he divulged prior past behavior to her as a recovering alcoholic, I can see how she would turn that around to castigate him, revealing past indiscretions he revealed to her. Never underestimate pillow talk. Maybe he was dicking around on her. Regardless, a marriage is a private matter, but not to her so much.

by Anonymousreply 14811/27/2012

Gabriel needs to insist the court do a psychatric evaluation of Halle. She probably was emotionally abusive to him. Poor Nahla.

by Anonymousreply 14911/27/2012

Wasn't it mentioned earlier that Halle Berry and Oliver went out the next morning to a liquor store? I'm surprised the gossip sites haven't tracked down the possible store and grilled the owner/clerks about their behavior.

by Anonymousreply 15011/27/2012

r145, what the fuck are you talking about? ...she's always well dressed and appropriate.

by Anonymousreply 15111/27/2012

He was photographed at a liquor store at 7:30 the next morning, but I'm not sure what came of it. I don't think he was purchasing an alcoholic beverage, or at least I didn't see it in the pics.

Regardless, Martinez is a manipulative scum whose actions and motives have been as questionable as Berry's.

by Anonymousreply 15211/27/2012

How do Olivier and Halle plan to explain this to the kid? What examples are they setting to the girl, her peers and their parents? "Mommy's boyfriend beat up your Daddy. Use your words when you talk to your friends, but not your hands. Whoops." Will they lie and claim self defense? Berry is the mother, Aubry is the father, for life. Going forward, they will have many occasions they'll have to be in the same room in the child's life. Seems Olivier, not being the girl's parent, and not being a husband yet, needs to stay the F out of the custody exchanges. Seems the 3 adults need major family counseling to get along for the kid's sake.

by Anonymousreply 15311/27/2012

Poor Nahla, first of all.

Gay guy here, but all my female friends, gay and straight, see this as a set-up.

A boxer and a slim model?

And, conveniently, no audio or video.... At a movie star's mansion.

Right. I think any family court judge could see what happened.

I hate to say it, but can you imagine what Judge Judy would say to Halle? I don't think she'd ever believe the Halle/Martinez version.

by Anonymousreply 15411/27/2012

If Aubry cared for the kid as much, he'd let her go to France with a mother and still work out some sort of visitation, at Halle's expense. But we all know there's 20,000 other reasons not to allow that.

by Anonymousreply 15511/27/2012

r155, if Halle cares about going to France so much, she'd give Aubry primary custody and come back to visit the kid on her own dime.

by Anonymousreply 15611/27/2012

Halle seemed to be fine with sharing custody with Aubrey on friendly terms until she hooked up with Martinez. I know Halle is nuts, but so is fucking Oliver.

by Anonymousreply 15711/27/2012

[quote]If Aubry cared for the kid as much, he'd let her go to France with a mother and still work out some sort of visitation, at Halle's expense. But we all know there's 20,000 other reasons not to allow that.

Oh really??? Why should he agree that his kid be taken half way around the world just because her mother wants to be with her boyfriend?

And after what we've seen, why should he agree that his child be raised in the presence of a raging, violent thug who might also be a drug addict/alcoholic?

You obviously don't have kids.

by Anonymousreply 15811/28/2012

I agree with the assessment of Halle being nuts, but I also agree with those of you who think Olivier is bad news. He is an arrogant thug, and I think Halle encourages him, though he certainly doesn't need to be encouraged.

I think Gabriel has moved on emotionally, and he knows that both he and Halle will have other people in their lives. But Gabriel knows Olivier is bad news. That's why he is worried about her being so far away in France with Olivier trying to erase Gabriel.

There is something frightening about how little regard Olivier has for Gabriel, his disrespect, his unwillingness to acknowledge Gabriel's legitimacy.

Olivier seems like a belligerent, violent thug. I believe Olivier has something up his sleeve. It's almost like Halle's opened Pandora's box, and she won't be able to rein in Olivier even if she wanted to.

He will take this to extremes. In his magical thinking,(and Halle's) his version of events is so plausible, who knows what his next move is. I have a very bad feeling about this.

Obviously, Olivier and Halle have no respect for the courts' decisions, and they feel like the system can be manipulated, and ignored, and they're free to lie to suit their ends.

I feel very bad for Gabriel. He stepped into a pile of shit when he hooked up with Halle. She's going to have major problems with her daughter too. She has sexual issues with men, and projects them onto Nahla's relationship with Gabriel.

When she pulls out the same crazy on Olivier,she'll pay a very high price. She is his ticket. He gets famous again by hooking up with her, and he gets money from her. He is living very well right now. He will never give that up. Not without a fight.

She'll eventually see Nahla as a rival. As Nahla gets older Halle's behavior will get more extreme.I can't imagine how Nahla would react to seeing her father's face. To know her mother & mother's boyfriend did this, and disrespected him so terribly is unconcionable.

by Anonymousreply 15911/28/2012

R152 you only go to Turner's to buy liquor. Lots of it.

by Anonymousreply 16011/28/2012

According to what news outlets are reporting (and I saw this on TV, KABC in Los Angeles) Gabriel still needs to honor the restraining order imposed on his last week. However, it expires this Thursday. If Halle and Olivier wish to extend it, they have to go to court before then. So, Halle may have a bit of a dilemma on her hands now. If she fights to extend it she will probably lose, and be seen as even more of a bitch in the public eye. Let's face it - her PR people are probably working into the wee hours of the morning every day right now. If she doesn't do it, then she in a sense acknowledges that Gabriel isn't a physical threat. My guess is she will do it because she would rather fight in court and risk losing than to let Gabriel win outright, since she is such a cunt.

by Anonymousreply 16111/28/2012

[quote]I feel very bad for Gabriel. He stepped into a pile of shit when he hooked up with Halle. She's going to have major problems with her daughter too. She has sexual issues with men, and projects them onto Nahla's relationship with Gabriel.


Have you heard the latest news that the surveillance cameras on Halle's property somehow has no footage of the fight? Apparently all the cameras had been magically moved a couple of days before and there were no cameras trained on the driveway during the altercation. Uh-huh.

by Anonymousreply 16211/28/2012

Some of you are very over dramatic. You are using this issue with Hallie and Gabriel. To vent your own hatred,racism and jealousy.

Gabriel could probably be a major jerk. Hallie and him were together for years. She couldn't have been that bad.

We don't know how the fight got started and I do believe some of what Gabe is saying. Other parts sound like bullshit. If he was threatened the day before he never told the police that when the fight occured.

I think some of you need to stop using Hallie to vent your anger towards women. All I keep seeing is the same post about all these issues she supposedly has.

by Anonymousreply 16311/28/2012

I agree with r163. Are there reliable reports of the "issues" she has?

by Anonymousreply 16411/28/2012

That r162 means only Two things:

1) If she had any proof Gabriel was the one who was violent and attacked, you bet your ass she would have used it. If she really thought Gabriel was a violent man and a threat, she would have made sure he cameras would work whenever they met.

Which means

2) This was PREMEDITATED, PLANNED AND DELIBERATE! They conspired to attack him an try to frame it all on him so they can steal his child!!!! Which means they conspired to commit Battery/Assault or even murder!!!! It could have ended with even greater damage or even death for Gabriel. He said that that animal held his head between his hands and smashed it against the pavement!

Both Halle and Olivier should be arrested and prosecuted! It's outrageous that because of their fame and wealth and even though any idiot could see by how they both ended that Olivier was the criminal, it was Gabriel the victim who was arrested and had a restraining order. It's scary that rich and famous ppl can do such things and their victims are the ones being assumed to be the guilty parties. I think Gabriel should pursue this with all he's got and get sole custody because his daughter is in grave danger with that woman.

by Anonymousreply 16511/28/2012

If this didn't involve a major star, her boyfriend would have been arrested for beating up her baby daddy.

Halle is acting like trash.

Her career is in shreds.

Good luck, PR people.

by Anonymousreply 16611/28/2012

r163 I'm a woman and I agree with everything people here say about the psycho bitch. Yeah, there's lots of misogyny here and racism on this board but that doesn't mean Halle should be able to hide her crimes behind gender and skin color or that we shouldn't call her on it. BTW, she already played the race card and was proven a liar and She's played the "poor me" card many times.

She's a narcissistic psycho and it doesn't take a shrink to see that.

by Anonymousreply 16711/28/2012

It's amusing how much you people claim intimate knowledge about these folks' lives. Pretty funny.

by Anonymousreply 16811/28/2012

R163 Some of us are black women who have heard rumors about the Halle crazy for a long ass time...I mean she tried to commit suicide WITH her dog who does that?

by Anonymousreply 16911/28/2012

r168 It's not about "intimate knowledge", it's about public, documented acts and behavior.

by Anonymousreply 17011/28/2012

"Documented" by whom, FOX/TMZ?

by Anonymousreply 17111/28/2012

R167 = white woman who hates Halle for being with white guys

by Anonymousreply 17211/28/2012

r172 is a fucking idiot.

by Anonymousreply 17311/28/2012

Fuckoff, R163. You're a troll. Pure and simple.

by Anonymousreply 17411/28/2012

"I feel very bad for Gabriel. He stepped into a pile of shit when he hooked up with Halle. "

I don't, because he was perfectly willing to have a child with a woman he knew was crazy, and he probably did so because it was the only way he could get money out of her after the breakup.

Halle is mentally ill, Olivier is a brutal thug, but that doesn't make Aubry a saint. Oh, that poor kid!

by Anonymousreply 17511/28/2012

I like this current TMZ poll with 30,000 responses --

Who's the bad guy here?

Halle Berry 41% Martinez 36% Gabriel 23%

by Anonymousreply 17611/28/2012

Halle Berry is as white as she is black...ethnically. She is a white girl culturally raised by a white mother dating white men and gave birth to a 3/4 white daughter.

by Anonymousreply 17711/28/2012

Gabriel Aubry loves the spotlight.

by Anonymousreply 17811/28/2012

r159 you are 100% correct. I posted earlier in the thread that my mother was as batshit as Halle and poisoned everyone around her.

And since I'm female, as I got older - I am blonde, blue, fair, mother is darker, black hair, brown eyes, and I was simply gorgeous then, my mother was absolutely jealous.

Poor Nahla, seeing her father beaten up by her mother's bf! That is damaging!!!!

Halle is totally fucking batshit, totally narcissistic.

And lest we forget, Olivier Martinez dumped Kylie Minogue when she was dx'd with breast cancer. He is a beast.

by Anonymousreply 17911/28/2012

has anyone seen these or similar blind items? any thoughts about their validity?

This A list celebrity in the rest of the world and probably a B- or C+ here in the States ran into her ex about two months ago. The ex that basically tortured her on a daily basis. Apparently this ex who is an actor made the moves on his ex and assumed she would be willing to have one night of fun. Well, he assumed wrong and she got the e-mail address of his current A list actress girlfriend and told her what happened, but the actress accused her of making moves on her man. "Look at the history" is what the A list celebrity wrote back. Kylie Minogue/Olivier Martinez/Halle Berry

This A+ list all movie actress was pulled off her bloodied foreign born C+ list actor boyfriend after she had punched him and scratched his face because she found out he had been cheating. Crazy part? They are still going out. He will still cheat though. Halle Berry/Olivier Martinez

by Anonymousreply 18011/28/2012

WOW r180

by Anonymousreply 18111/28/2012

Years ago I wrote here that no black man in Hollywood would touch Halle because of her reputation. She has now moved on to white men and is pulling the same old shenanigans that she has pulled for the with her past partners. It seems Halle is fine as long as she gets her way. When she doesn't, watch out.

by Anonymousreply 18211/28/2012

I saw the pictures of Gabriel's injuries. It's embarassing to have gotten beaten up by a man who is almost 10 years older than him. I can only imagine the stories Halle pumped into Oliver's head to get him that angry to assault Gabriel in such a vicious manner.

by Anonymousreply 18311/28/2012

I wonder if Martinez had been drinking. It was only 10:00 a.m., but...

by Anonymousreply 18411/28/2012

Look at the men Halle picks.

1) David Justice: Baseball player (cute) 2) Eric Benet: Musician/Producer (very cute with sexual addiction) 3) Aubry: Model (9 years younger and hot) 4) Martinez: Actor (very good looking and KNOWN womanizer)

They all have their pick of women based on looks alone nevermind that they're in professions women find exciting. And both Benet and Martinez are well known sluts.

Of course she winds up angry and dejected.

by Anonymousreply 18511/28/2012

[quote]It's embarassing to have gotten beaten up by a man who is almost 10 years older than him.

Oh, please. Olivier used to be a professional boxer! Also, what better "evidence" to have in your fight for primary custody than an out-of-control actor leaving your face -- which, in Gabriel's case, is his actual *INCOME* source as a model -- disgustingly black-and-blue? Hell, it wouldn't surprise me if Gabriel LET Olivier hit him right in the eye just because he knew how bad it'd look.

by Anonymousreply 18611/28/2012

Olivia Martinez is probably a drinker with a not so pleasant attitude after a few too many. He even looks the part.

by Anonymousreply 18711/28/2012

Olivier Martinez was once a beautiful man but he is not just a pretty boy. That dude was a boxer and a straight thug. Also nuts.

by Anonymousreply 18811/28/2012

hey folks, here's a twist on this discussion.

maybe, just maybe it is not Halle who is the mega bitch in this but she is actually being handled by olivier martinez.

now, we all know that she is a mega bitch, documented fact. but it seems now that martinez has come on the scene things have escalated way beyond her level of crazy into a whole new space.

perhaps he is the dominant and controlling character in the relationship and is pushing her buttons and pulling the strings. he allegedly said to gabriel 'you cost us $3m'. that was a huge financial hit just to move to another country. conveniently it just happened to be france they wanted to move to, they could have gone anywhere.

i think halle and olivier are as bad as each other and deserve each other because clearly they are a toxic pair. maybe she thinks she has found the strong, dominant alpha male she has been looking for her whole life and thinks he knows best.

she would not be the first woman to be an idiot and let this kind of man take charge and persuade her already fucked up mind, bad decisions are good ones. french, charming and persuasive - let's be honest, it was only going to end one way......

by Anonymousreply 18911/28/2012

[quote]I hate to say it, but can you imagine what Judge Judy would say to Halle? I don't think she'd ever believe the Halle/Martinez version.

r154, I would love to see Judge Judy handle this one. Good idea!

by Anonymousreply 19011/28/2012

It sounds like Oliver was prone to rages to begin with now with Halle fanning the flames it sounds like he's become outright dangerous.She'd better watch herself or that attack dog she's trained might just turn on her and rip her throat out!

by Anonymousreply 19111/28/2012

Crazy breeds crazy. It sounds like Halle and Olivier are a toxic situation in which they bring out the worst in each other.

by Anonymousreply 19211/28/2012

Those are good insights, R189. All of the parties have different investments in the situation. Aubrey his daughter, first and foremost, and his pride which has taken a beating for merely being a former pro-boxer's object of derision. Berry has her daughter, reputation and pride. The last two are taking a huge hit which I don't think she calculated.

And Martinez? What is his investment and potential gain in this? He is a fading, aging actor who managed to hook up with Hollywood A list. Does he love Nahla or Berry so much as to damage his reputation or does he love the idea of being amongst the extravagantly wealthy for whom shelling out $3 million is indicative of what more they can produce and provide to him and his career?

The most cynical would say he was playing this to make himself invaluable to Halle as a "protector" and, therefore, with her influence he would get career rewards and goodies that he would never have access to otherwise. Except, he played it all wrong.

That TMZ or Radar poll someone linked on either this thread or the "Halle brings out the crazy" puts most of the blame on Martinez, Halle second and Aubrey bringing up the rear.

by Anonymousreply 19311/28/2012

I don't entirely agree with R193's take on the two men.

Olivier probably resents the fact that Halle has to spend money on legal fees and an ex, instead of him. And if he's the abusive, posessive psycho I think he is, he's angry that she has any contact with another man, and furious that another man has any say over what happens in Halle's home. The classic abuser wants to control his meal ticket completely and utterly, which he'd have if they moved to France - where Halle would face a language barrier and would be more dependent on him.

And R193 forgot to mention Aubry's interest in getting $20,000 a month from Halle, which is probably his primary source of income.

Yuck, what a pair.

by Anonymousreply 19411/29/2012

So now it is being reported that the parties involved in this have "reached a settlement." Whatever that means.

Martinez should be charged criminally in my opinion for attempted murder or at least assault.

Who can guess what the terms of the settlement were and also, what happened to make Halle want to settle? Did she know how guilty Martinez looked and/or how much damage it has done to her career?

by Anonymousreply 19511/29/2012

It seems that Nahla according to their custody agreement was supposed to spend Thanksgiving with her dad and he gave in and let her go to her mom's because it "was so important to Halle." So Aubry brought her over voluntarily.

I think Halle & Olivier's attorney they met with yesterday spelled out how bad it looked for them and that they better wind this down as fast as possible and try to look like agreeable people. You'd have to be a fool to think that Aubry picked this fight or had any reason to be irate at that point.

Nobody believes Halle or her paid witnesses - her employees. She tried that one before and got shot down. Maybe it was drummed into her head that she was close to losing primary custody if she and Olivier continued in this vein.

Supposedly Halle will ensure that Olivier is not at her house when the transfers of Nahla occur in future. Why they didn't make it that the transfers have to occur at Aubry's house from now on I don't know. I still think Aubry is being too nice and needs to get tough. These men never learn that Halle cannot be appeased. Any truce is merely temporary.

If I were Aubry I'd file for primary custody and use her attempted suicides and other dangerous behavior as fuel. Halle is really just poison for that child. Sooner or later she'll damage that child psychologically no matter how involved her father is.

by Anonymousreply 19611/29/2012

Why wasn't Olivier arrested? That bastard.

by Anonymousreply 19711/29/2012

My prediction for 2013, Martinez beats the crap out of Halle and she pulls out a gun and kills him. She will claim she was only protecting the kid.

by Anonymousreply 19811/29/2012

This is not a set-up,like many sites are speculating. This is a glimpse at how impulsive and violent Martinez can be. Can you imagine being Gabriel? Trying to walk that tightrope between pissing off your A-List Borderline ex gf and her violent partner--- and being sane and strong for your little girl? Brother, I really feel for the guy.

by Anonymousreply 19911/29/2012

Those are interesting details r196 what's your source? I know there was a settlement today, the two attornies strolled out of the courthouse arm in arm looking very pleased with themselves. (Lilo infamous atty Shawn Holley reps Aubrey)

Im assuming Aubrey would agree to drop any future charges or civil suit/s against Halle and Martinez in exchange for the Paris-move appeal being dropped. Also as noted "safer" child exchange circumstances. Maybe clauses relating to keeping Martinez's influence/presence around Nahla limited, perhaps "if mother's bf engages in further violent activity going forward he'll be banned from Nahla's presence" type of thing.

by Anonymousreply 20011/29/2012

I feel for the little girl, r199.

Berry had no fucking business having a kid when it's obvious she can't even handle her own shit.

Everyone else in this scenario, however fucked up they may be, is an adult. If all of them chose to act like one, this could have been resolved long ago.

Even Aubry comes off as a gold-digger in the wider scenario, although I don't think he deserved this beat down.

by Anonymousreply 20111/29/2012

[quote] Why they didn't make it that the transfers have to occur at Aubry's house from now on I don't know. I still think Aubry is being too nice and needs to get tough. These men never learn that Halle cannot be appeased. Any truce is merely temporary.If I were Aubry I'd file for primary custody and use her attempted suicides and other dangerous behavior as fuel. Halle is really just poison for that child. Sooner or later she'll damage that child psychologically no matter how involved her father is.

I completely agree r196

by Anonymousreply 20211/29/2012

R201, hon, Aubry is not poor. He doesn't need her money.

by Anonymousreply 20311/29/2012

No matter what happens, [R201], eventually it will be clear to Nahla that her Dad has fought and cared for her well-being. Custody battles can get ugly. Most dads don't care this much (and I speak from experience)

by Anonymousreply 20411/29/2012

I read that Aubry's (unnamed) atty/law firm mistakenly referred to Halle (multiple times) as Aubry's ex-wife in a court filing. Then I read today on DListed that his atty is Shawn Holley of the Kinsella firm, i.e., Loony Lilo's atty. Jeez.

by Anonymousreply 20511/29/2012

How sad for him when his daughter will get to visit him soon and sees his battered face. If she were to be told the truth, I wonder how safe she'll feel w/ a violent, potentially future step-father. That Aubry is one hot daddy. Even w/ his tender face, I'd gently straddle it to make him feel better.

by Anonymousreply 20611/29/2012

You just know that Martinez is gonna turn on Halle.......

and then she will be crying wolf, Wolf, WOLF....

and everybody else will just yawn.

by Anonymousreply 20711/29/2012

[quote]And since I'm female, as I got older - I am blonde, blue, fair, mother is darker, black hair, brown eyes, and I was simply gorgeous then, my mother was absolutely jealous.

R179 = typical white woman insanely jealous of a beautiful black woman, so of course she has to claim that Halle has "issues". Bitch.

by Anonymousreply 20811/29/2012

R208, I read that post and sympathized with R179's mother. Can you imagine how that poster acted if she thought being blonde automatically made her more attractive than her mother?

Just because her mother hated her, that means Halle will hate her daughter? I think the poster lacks the ability to differentiate between situations.

by Anonymousreply 20911/30/2012

r208 is a fucking idiot.

by Anonymousreply 21011/30/2012

I don't trust this for a minute. The ONLY reason Halle was amenable to "settling" is because she's in the shitter and she knows she is wrong. They are simply using this as a delay while they line up their ducks for another play.

Gabriel is a fool if he doesn't see it. He had his daughter. Olivier threatens him at the school and he gives in thinking that settles it, yet when he does give in he gets his ass kivcked for his trouble. That's all he needs to know.

He needs to recognize that no matter how amenable he is, they'll escalate this. They are really angry about Paris. About the only thing I hope for, is that Halle wakes up and sees how toxic Olivier is. She was already nuts, he kicked it up several notches.

I still hope the bring charges against Olivier. That is probably what happened. Her lawyer told her that Olivier's behavior had really worsened things and he could be charged.

The outcome I want to see is Olivier charged with assault, and he and HAlle break up. Then he can take his sorry ass back to France until he finds another rich lady to take care of him. I also hope they gave Gabriel some money. They need to be paying his legal fees.

by Anonymousreply 21111/30/2012

Halle is going to strike again. Wait.

by Anonymousreply 21211/30/2012

Halle Berry and Gabriel Aubry have reached a truce over the violent turkey-day tussle at the Oscar winner’s mansion. “The parties have reached an amicable agreement. There will be no further statements regarding this matter,” Berry lawyer Blair Berk told the Daily News Thursday.

She said the cease-fire statement was joined by Aubry’s criminal lawyer Shawn Holley.

Both sides were in a Los Angeles courtroom Thursday to discuss the settlement with the family court judge overseeing the paternity case for Berry’s 4-year-old daughter with Aubry.

It’s still not clear if authorities will pursue a criminal case against Aubry.

by Anonymousreply 21311/30/2012

[quote] [R201], hon, Aubry is not poor. He doesn't need her money.

20,000/per month including money to fly to Canada and for children's clothes? He sunk most of his money into the restaurant Halle bought for him and that was haemorrhaging money itself. He most certainly is both poor and a gold digger and definitely wants her to stay in the country because he needs the money.

by Anonymousreply 21411/30/2012

ITA Berry won't do anything to change this situation until Martinez tries to go after her money (the ultimate power grab for a controller/abuser.) You'd think a woman who's carried on about her past experience with abusers would get a guy like this out of her life the moment he acts out, especially since he's around her child.

Anyone else wondering why she announced the day after this incident that she's selling the house where this took place?

by Anonymousreply 21511/30/2012

Apparently, the order for a pocket listing (not advertised) of the house went in weeks ago, though the Daily Mail is reporting it as having just happened. Berry was on the move before this.

by Anonymousreply 21611/30/2012

Martinez is an abuser now? I missed the part where he constantly pummelled Kylie Minogue.

by Anonymousreply 21711/30/2012

I sincerely hope Olivier is charged with assault. The only reason there's been "an agreement" is because Halle was probably warned by her lawyers that she was in deep trouble on this one, and it was all her fault for conniving with Olivier Martinez.

Olivier deserves to be in jail. He is a very violent man and he is filled with rage. This was none of his business. I am sure that Gabriel is worried about Nahla being around him. All this will do is give Halle a chance to come up with some new "strategy" to undermine Gabriel. Martinez is a pig. I hope Nahla is safe from harm. Anything could happen to her, too.

by Anonymousreply 21811/30/2012

R214= martinez.

by Anonymousreply 21911/30/2012
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