Anyone read it? Anything new/juicy ?
William Mann's Streisand biography
|by Anonymous||reply 36||03/24/2013|
It only covers the years from 1961 to 1964.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||11/21/2012|
[quote]It only covers the years from 1961 to 1964.
SO I guess he is writing more editions?
|by Anonymous||reply 3||11/21/2012|
Yes. It's going to be like Robert Caro's series on Lyndon Johnson. The next volume is due in 2018.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||11/21/2012|
R4 made me laugh.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||11/21/2012|
There's a story in the book about her walking in on Barry Dennen in bed with another man. Barbra was crushed and traumatized.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||11/21/2012|
Yup, here I am like a bad penny.
From Barry's book which is why you should read his book. (It has a ring of truth. All other bios about her are basically trash.) Actually, that is what she remembers of the reason for their break- while he (Barry) did not at all- this being told as he and Barbra chat and try to remember the past in about 1992 or 3. He says they broke up because he stood her up returning from CA after T'Giving and she says they broke up because he was gay- and she caught him. He does acknowledge that he hurt her-and she more or less exacts revenge after Funny Girl opens and demands and keeps tapes they made together. She insists they are her property and he insists they are his. She wins because, well, she can afford
I will probably buy the Mann book, but I hear there is nothing in it that is not in Barry's book which is much better and of course first hand. It's really quite facinating because it is about molding her into the talent she became in those early years- and it was a cadre of gay men basically who were her closest friends.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||11/21/2012|
|by Anonymous||reply 8||11/21/2012|
[quote]I will probably buy the Mann book, but I hear there is nothing in it that is not in Barry's book which is much better and of course first hand.
It's amazing to me that on the Cariol Channing vs. Barbra thread you bitch and bitch and people judging those actresses who didn't see their performances, and here you are dissing a book you haven't even read. You're a hypocrite.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||11/21/2012|
[quote]you bitch and bitch and people
Sorry, that should read "you bitch and bitch about people"
|by Anonymous||reply 10||11/21/2012|
Charlie- I read here that he still has the material and that she's tried to get them back from him but he refuses to do so no matter how mush she offers him.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||11/21/2012|
I 'bitch and bitch' huh? You mean I have my point of view. Funny how people on these thread cannot discuss the topic on its merits and devolve into personal attacks. Oh well its DL and not a book club. And I suppose that is what most blogs devolve into.
I said I was going to read it did't I? The review of the Mann book in the NY Times stated pretty much what I said- that most of the good information comes from Dennin's book- OK? So I kind of lost a little interest.
Mann usually writes pretty good bios- at least the one he did of Hepburn was- but the one he did of Elizabeth Taylor was awful- read exactly like an old Modern Screen and offered not an iota of information you would not know if you had followed basic tabloid press during her career (which I did.)
|by Anonymous||reply 12||11/21/2012|
You mean Mann or Dennin Della? That would be completely in character for her to be trying to do that. I meant to say in my post that she "wins because she can afford lawyers and he cannot."
|by Anonymous||reply 13||11/21/2012|
[quote] she more or less exacts revenge after Funny Girl opens and demands and keeps tapes they made together. She insists they are her property and he insists they are his. She wins because, well, she can afford
Actually Dennen said that Streisand contacted him about her tapes when she was compiling material for the "Just For The Record" box set. Following a disagreement with her, he refused to release the tapes, so Babs lost that battle, but she still had tons of other unreleased and rare stuff for the box set.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||11/21/2012|
Mann's book is pretty good--not great, but not bad--but he needs some writing lessons. He sometimes sounds like a gushing teenage girl.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||11/21/2012|
r14 answered my question,Charlie. I should have specified I was referring to Dennen.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||11/21/2012|
Why didn't Barry Dennin ever have a career? I know he did a few small things, but wasn't he supposed to be the star of their acting class? The one everyone thought would go on to the big time?
|by Anonymous||reply 17||11/21/2012|
According to his web site he did and does have a career. He just was not a big success I guess. R17, most people my age who tried careers in acting and music etc. did not succeed, and some of them were quite talented. It's very tough even if you have talent like Streisand.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||11/21/2012|
Supposedly he was R17, but there are many extremely talented people who don't have careers. Talent isn't a guarantee or a prerequisite.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||11/21/2012|
Bobby Fischer, the famous chess player, was Barbra's boyfriend in high school.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||11/21/2012|
[bold]SPOILER ALERT[/bold]: She's a bitch!
|by Anonymous||reply 21||11/21/2012|
I love William J. Mann, but do we really need another biography of the Barb?
|by Anonymous||reply 22||11/25/2012|
The cover sucks big time.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||11/25/2012|
If you're interested in Barry Dennen as a performer, check him out on the London cast recording of Cabaret, as the Emcee (Judi Dench is Sally Bowles!). He's better than Joel Grey on the Broadway cast album.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||11/25/2012|
Doesn't Barry Dennen also play Pilate in the film of Jesus Christ Superstar?
And is William Mann as good-looking in real life as his author photos would suggest?
|by Anonymous||reply 25||11/25/2012|
I am more interested in the fabled 12 set DVD of performances/videos/interviews that has been long promised. Anyone got any word on that release?
|by Anonymous||reply 26||11/25/2012|
Barry Dennen = sucked big time
|by Anonymous||reply 27||11/25/2012|
Playing Aldolph Hitler's clone in an episode of "Wonder Woman" is as good as it's gonna get for poor 'ol Barry.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||11/26/2012|
Dennen had a small part in The Shining.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||11/26/2012|
R25, William J. Mann is a drop-dead gorgeous, hot muscle man.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||11/26/2012|
"Oh well its DL and not a book club."
PS For only $225, Barry will record a personal message for you that you can put on your voicemail!
|by Anonymous||reply 31||11/26/2012|
Is charlie really Charlie Handelman, notorious opera crank?
|by Anonymous||reply 32||11/28/2012|
No, r32, but he knows him personally because they live in NYC.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||12/01/2012|
"Bobby Fischer, the famous chess player, was Barbra's boyfriend in high school."
Um,no. She only mentioned seeing Bobby Fischer reading Mad Magazine in HS, he wasn't her boyfriend. She didn't have boyfriends in school and Fischer was not/would not have been a candidate.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||03/24/2013|
Lies, all lies
|by Anonymous||reply 35||03/24/2013|
My sister gave it to me for Christmas and I'm only halfway through it, if that tells you anything.
It clashes somewhat with my fantasy of BS rising to the top in spite of the world being against her, but in fact she had the help of the most sophisticated PR machinery in all of New York. Her image of being too talented to play supporting roles was created to everyone's advantage.
I'm stuck at the scene where her team has been told that her old pals, the ones that created her earliest image and act, are not allowed near her at her TWENTIETH birthday party.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||03/24/2013|