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Hostesses' Collapse is Complete!

Famous bakery to liquidate; popular brands like Twinkies will probably be sold to competitors.

by Anonymousreply 14804/16/2013

Conservatives jackasses will of course blame the unions.

I say, if you want Hostess cherry pies or whatever, quit your job and be a Hostess scab.

Otherwise STFU Republican asswipes.

by Anonymousreply 111/16/2012

You should see the outcry on the Hostess Facebook page. Whining and blaming Obama because they can't stuff their face with a Twinkie anymore.

by Anonymousreply 211/16/2012

Republicans forget unions are just as American as Wonder Bread.

by Anonymousreply 311/16/2012

I do hope they continue to make the Wonder Bread English muffins! Tasty!

by Anonymousreply 411/16/2012

WHEN I began researching the ingredients for Twinkies, I naively thought that their raw materials were extracted from nuts, beans, fruit, seeds or leaves, and that they came from the United States. I was looking to link places with foods -- along the lines of California wine or Maine lobster, but for thiamine mononitrate. It turned out that I was way off.

Although eight of the ingredients in the beloved little snack cake come from domestic corn and three from soybeans, there are others -- including thiamine mononitrate -- that come from petroleum. Chinese petroleum. Chinese refineries and Chinese factories. And there are other unexpected ingredients that are much harder to trace. So much for the great "All-American" snack food.

by Anonymousreply 511/16/2012

Gross as they are, I used to like their apple pies. Maybe I'll stockpile a few.

by Anonymousreply 611/16/2012

A fine old American company looted by a succession of corporate raiders, and now that there's nothing left they walk away from the carcass.

Frito-Lay or Bimbo down in Mexico will snap up the brands and re-launch the products. The only losers are the poor guys who worked at the bakeries.

by Anonymousreply 711/16/2012

Heh Heh. Suck it, bitches.

by Anonymousreply 811/16/2012

Exactly, R7. They're scape-goating the union, but the real villans here are the corporate raiders. Like the kind Romney used to be.

by Anonymousreply 911/16/2012

I need to relax. How about I get out my sterling silver serving tray and fill it with twinkies.

by Anonymousreply 1111/16/2012

R10, you go ahead and keep believing that.

(rolling eyes)

So tired of idiots always blaming unions. Consider that there was a REASON they were striking, and I assure you it wasn't greed. Well, not their OWN greed, anyway.

by Anonymousreply 1211/16/2012

Damn, the chocolate cupcakes are the bomb.

by Anonymousreply 1311/16/2012

Someone will pick up the most popular items (Twinkies) and start manufacturing them. It happened with Mother's Cookies - out of business, shut down, then resurrected.

by Anonymousreply 1411/16/2012

And the blood ran Snowball Pink in Aisle 7 that day.

by Anonymousreply 1611/16/2012

Only one hostess product that I'm aware of is "super delicious"... and that's their crumb-cake coffe-cake squares. Those things are amazingly good.

The cherry and lemon pies are okay, but dear god, they're a nutritional nightmare (more calories than a big mac).

Everything else is rather flavorless, and mostly just 'Sweet' these days.

I should go try to hoard any remaining crumb-cakes I can find. Thankfully, being Hostess, they'll last for months.

by Anonymousreply 1711/16/2012

The crumb cakes are good; I never see them around which is a good thing.

by Anonymousreply 1811/16/2012

R14, Didn't know that Mothers' Cookies had resurrected. Thanks for the info. Now at least you can buy them without the dreaded high-fructose corn syrup.

by Anonymousreply 1911/16/2012

I posted in the Little Debbie thread praising Little Debbie, so I'll add my 2 cents here.

It wasn't the unions, it was a series of corporate raiders and insiders filling their pockets. They've been bleeding this company white since the 1970's--slowly at first, and for the last decade they haven't even bothered to hide it.

They cheapened the products, they loaded the company with debt, they didn't invest in technology; I could go on and on, but this simply didn't need to happen.

I worked for them 30 years ago when they were still a fine organization, and it breaks my heart to think of all those people out of work and all those magnificent bakeries shut down.

Read the Wikipedia page and look at the history of the company since 1975. One corporate raider after another.

by Anonymousreply 2111/16/2012

Bad management and CEOs robbing the company and destroying pension plans. Same ol' same ol'. Until our nation protects us from these thieves...we should do the job ourselves.

by Anonymousreply 2211/16/2012

Did the unions say get the ingredients from Chinese oil refineries and factories? I don't think so.

by Anonymousreply 2311/16/2012

I am BEREFT!

No "Ho Ho's" here in La Jolla after what these Ding Dongs have done! I just hope things don't Snowball even further!

I SAID I hated anything to do with the smell of grease.

by Anonymousreply 2411/16/2012

union busting plutocrats. I hope this blows up in their faces

by Anonymousreply 2511/16/2012

I fear to think what raw materials the new Chinese owners of these brands, will make their Twinkies from!

by Anonymousreply 2611/16/2012

Obama killed Twinkies!!! I knew this would happen!! GET.OFF.THE FUCKING.INTERNET!!!

by Anonymousreply 2711/16/2012

Well to be honest I can't imagine the ingredients would be any worse than they already are. Weren't Twinkies supposed to be able to survive a Nuclear Holocost?

by Anonymousreply 2811/16/2012

For junk food, Little Debbie's stuff is far superior to Hostess.

by Anonymousreply 2911/16/2012

No more Ding Dongs for you, young lady!!

by Anonymousreply 3011/16/2012

I guess the Chinese petroleum ingredient explains why those nasty Twinkies were always so greasy.

by Anonymousreply 3111/16/2012

There goes my last chance of enjoying their raspberry doughnuts again.

by Anonymousreply 3211/16/2012

Link please R20.

by Anonymousreply 3311/16/2012

As long as Dolly Madison finds a new home, I'm fine.

by Anonymousreply 3411/16/2012

Insert snowball/twinkie joke here.

by Anonymousreply 3511/16/2012

Ah...if you want donuts, Krispy Kremes.

by Anonymousreply 3611/16/2012

Oh, crap. They own Drakes, too.

by Anonymousreply 3711/16/2012

Ho Ho!

by Anonymousreply 3811/16/2012

I don't know about the Chinese chemicals, in my day we were still using cane sugar instead of HFCS, so I'm sure it's a different world today.

I will say this, I worked for their major competition, and they tried hard to match the Hostess Cakes product for product. They came close on everything, Hostess was always better, but not by much, except for the Twinkie.

No matter what they tried they could never touch the Twinkie for taste, color, mouth feel, or anything else. It drove them crazy. Just the color, that perfect, even sunshine color the Twinkie has (had?), was insanely difficult to duplicate, much less do it uniformly every day in bakeries all over the United States.

And that wasn't because of management, that was because some union employees cared enough and knew enough to run 300 foot long ovens 10 hours a day and make the constant manual adjustments necessary to produce an exceptional product.

by Anonymousreply 3911/16/2012

I've always admired the exceptional craftsmanship of the Twinkie.

by Anonymousreply 4011/16/2012

I won't miss those nasty Suzy Q's though.

by Anonymousreply 4111/16/2012

Make your own Twinkies!

The Recipe!

by Anonymousreply 4211/16/2012

Make your own Twinkies!

The Pans!

by Anonymousreply 4311/16/2012

They own Drakes, too?! Well, off to buy the last of the Devil Dogs...

by Anonymousreply 4411/16/2012

Ho'ho's have 13 grams of saturated fat.

by Anonymousreply 4511/16/2012

I went to Skate America a few years ago and was quite shocked to see a frau pull Hostess cupcakes out of her coat to munch on them whilst the ladies were doing their practice runs.

by Anonymousreply 4611/16/2012

Ugh...I really love those cupcakes with the white swirls and fudge (?) topping. Little Debbie's cupcakes just can't compare. Oh well, I need to get back on my Sugar Busters diet anyway.

by Anonymousreply 4711/16/2012

god i love hostess products. i'm 44 now, and have been eating hostess cupcakes and the apple fruit pie my whole life.

by Anonymousreply 4811/16/2012

I'm gaining weight just reading this thread.

by Anonymousreply 4911/16/2012

Hostess products are not edible. As a child I thought they looked cute, and finally got to taste one; never again. When you next visit Vegas, dine out at Simon's in Palms Place, next to Palms Casino. Formerly at Hard Rock, Simon's has duplicated many Hostess desserts but made them far healthier and truly delicious. There are also online copycat recipes for all of your favorite junk food.

by Anonymousreply 5011/16/2012

They are divine when drunk..

by Anonymousreply 5111/16/2012

They are tasty, but there are a LOT of additives in their products. A LOT.

by Anonymousreply 5211/16/2012

Stopped by the store at lunch.

Twinkies were completely sold out.

I snagged two boxes of Cinnamon Streusel Coffee Cakes. Those things are awesom.

by Anonymousreply 5311/16/2012

So...... 5,000 people don't mind taking another 18,000 with them. Morons!

The newly unemployed 18,000 should get together and kick their asses.

by Anonymousreply 5411/16/2012

[quote] union busting plutocrats. I hope this blows up in their faces

Doubt it will. They sell of the right to manufacture the best selling products to another company and they get a big payday.

by Anonymousreply 5511/16/2012

Hostess also owns Entenmann's. Damn it.

by Anonymousreply 5611/16/2012

I have a friend who's husband works for them. He wasn't for the strike but as of this morning he has no job. He is the sole breadwinner of the family also. She's says they now have to file for food stamps and unemployment. Scary. They were just getting by from week to week and he really liked his job.

by Anonymousreply 5711/16/2012

[quote] Hostess also owns Entenmann's. Damn it.

Um, no they don't. Entenmann's is owned by Groupo Bimbo. Groupo Bimbo also owns Sara Lee.

by Anonymousreply 5811/16/2012

Mother's cookies never brought back their best cookies...Flaky Flix!

by Anonymousreply 5911/16/2012

Oh, and Bimbo already owns Wonder Bread in Mexico, so they will likely get the rest of their items now as well to distribute here as well as in Mexico.

by Anonymousreply 6011/16/2012

[quote] Mother's cookies never brought back their best cookies...Flaky Flix!

No, but Keebler has the same thing with their Fudge Sticks

by Anonymousreply 6111/16/2012

[quote] I have a friend who's husband works for them. He wasn't for the strike

He should have been. It's in solidarity that people get health benefits, weekends off, worker's comp, etc. etc. etc. etc.

by Anonymousreply 6211/16/2012

It WAS the fucking union this time.

UNIONS FUCK UP SOMETIMES.

by Anonymousreply 6311/16/2012

No, R63, it wasn't. Management gave themselves over 300% in pay increases... while asking employees to take deep pay cuts.

It was NOT the Union. It was executive greed. Period.

by Anonymousreply 6411/16/2012

Two Twinkies = 300 calories. Two shots of Vodka (no mixer) = 240 calories. #JustSayin

by Anonymousreply 6511/16/2012

R54, stop being a moron.

Stop blaming the workers. The workers did not drive the company into bankruptcy.

The robber-barrons and vampire-capitalists did. They loaded the company up with debt, gave themselves huge raises, and are now making off like bandits while putting 18,000 people out of work.

LEARN TO FUCKING BLAME THE RIGHT PEOPLE, DAMMIT.

by Anonymousreply 6611/16/2012

Nope. If Hostess had been properly unionized and FUCKING TREATING ITS WORKERS PROPERLY from the get-go, then this would not have happened. Instead they let kids get untreated for cancer and men and women working unpaid over-time in order to reap in profits. Like many businesses in the U.S., because capitalism in its pure state is a sociopathic maw that devours with relish.

by Anonymousreply 6711/16/2012

I think you're all missing the main tragedy in all of this: I've just lost 30% of the food products that comprise my regular diet.

by Anonymousreply 6811/16/2012

This is just pretext Hostess was planning to close and reopen in Mexico anyway and gets to use the workers as fall guys and kick them out of a job. Nice. But that's how we dooze it.

by Anonymousreply 6911/16/2012

Mmmm... Twinkie Bimbos.

by Anonymousreply 7011/16/2012

Hostess, Applebee's, Denny's, Papa John's = shitty food and shitty politics

by Anonymousreply 7111/16/2012

November is such a cunt:

-Colorado weed harshed by the death of Hostess

-CIA nerd porn ruined by Republican Socialite Sluts (from Mars)

-Fingerbang Elmo destroyed by an Emmanuel Lewis Anorexic

-Thanksgiving feasts wasted on bitter family

by Anonymousreply 7211/16/2012

I'm sorry for the people who will lose their jobs because of this, but Hostess products are and always have been flavorless crap with no redeeming nutritional value, and their disappearance from supermarkets will be no loss to the worlds of food and health. The person carrying on about Hostess's superior products and once-magnificent bakeries is insane.

by Anonymousreply 7311/16/2012

[quote]Hostesses'

Oh, dear.

by Anonymousreply 7411/16/2012

Freep off, freeper-scab at R54.

by Anonymousreply 7611/16/2012

Sorry - I mean R75, not R54.

by Anonymousreply 7711/16/2012

I used to love the cherry pies but in recent years they appeared to be 90% lard. and the Twinkies weren't spongey, they were too soft.

by Anonymousreply 7811/16/2012

I take it back - R54 can freep off as well.

by Anonymousreply 7911/16/2012

[quote]Gross as they are, I used to like their apple pies. Maybe I'll stockpile a few.

I know! Except I stopped eating them when I used the weight watchers formula to determine their point value. 14. Which, if I was on weight watchers, is like a complete meal. They're terrible for you.

That, and if I ate one at lunch i'd be a sugar zombie for the rest of the afternoon.

by Anonymousreply 8011/16/2012

I wonder if there will be an SNL skit about this. Maybe in connection with the legalization of marijuana in Washington and Colorado? Or with Mittens saying that he never would have allowed this to happen in HIS America?

by Anonymousreply 8111/16/2012

OP=Aviva Drescher

by Anonymousreply 8211/16/2012

r75, the cut was 4% not 8% which was the best union leaders could negotiate. Members weren't happy, so now they have a 100% pay cut.

by Anonymousreply 8311/16/2012

The cupcakes were so good in the '70s that I used to savor each element - the deep, dark, moist and chocolatey cake, the fluffy creme filling, even the little squiggle had character and flavor.

But that was the '70s and Hostess has been crap for at least 20 years.

I gotta tell ya though, those orange cupcakes are still crackalicious.

by Anonymousreply 8411/16/2012

I love to split the cupcakes in half and put a scoop of vanilla ice cream in between. Sigh.

by Anonymousreply 8511/16/2012

Well, I guess this is what happens when you show your Ding Dong to a HO HO, you Twinkies!!

by Anonymousreply 8611/16/2012

This, R86, THIS is why you should stop drinking.

by Anonymousreply 8711/16/2012

Twinkies are the best snacks ever!!

by Anonymousreply 8811/16/2012

Baked good with minimal nutrition value have no place on our nation's tables.

by Anonymousreply 8911/16/2012

If it was good enough for General Motors, Uncle Sam should take over Hostess.

by Anonymousreply 9011/16/2012

R83, you're missing the point.

The CEO's pay TRIPLED. Other executives had 80% pay raises.

This is a SCAM to get the employee's pensions, by the robber-barons and corporate raiders... the wealthy getting wealthier on the backs of working people and the poor.

Why the FUCK would you defend this, or attack the workers for attempting to fight back?

by Anonymousreply 9111/16/2012

R75, you're a fucking moron... can't see the forest for the trees.

by Anonymousreply 9211/16/2012

[quote]Why the FUCK would you defend this, or attack the workers for attempting to fight back?

The opinions of DL don't matter for shit here.

When a company is already in bankruptcy, there isn't much room to play.

Fail to see the union victory here.

by Anonymousreply 9311/16/2012

It's not about the union victory or loss, fucktard. It's about the blatent greed of those in charge, who ran the business in the ground, and 18,000 people out of a job, in order to line their own pockets.

What part of that are you not getting?

by Anonymousreply 9411/16/2012

[quote]What part of that are you not getting?

A well run business will print you money for eternity. They should move their production to China like everyone else.

by Anonymousreply 9511/16/2012

As the company was preparing to file for bankruptcy earlier this year, the then CEO of Hostess was awarded a 300 percent raise (from approximately $750,000 to $2,550,000) and at least nine other top executives of the company received massive pay raises. One such executive received a pay increase from $500,000 to $900,000 and another received one taking his salary from $375,000 to $656,256.

But of course idiots want to blame the unions.

by Anonymousreply 9611/16/2012

The Onion's take:

by Anonymousreply 9711/16/2012

Still waiting R20.

by Anonymousreply 9811/17/2012

Not that I haven't indulged in these confections it's that when I did it was hard to control myself from eating many, even the whole box. Physical illness and guilt followed. For some time now I have chosen life.

by Anonymousreply 10011/17/2012

R42, do you have a recipe for the Dunkin' Stix?

by Anonymousreply 10111/17/2012

The unions should congratulate themselves for what they have done for the foreign worker: Hostess will either be purchased or reorganized, moving their operations out of the country. Great job union!!

And if you are going to criticize corporate management for their salaries, don't forget that union management salaries are on the same level.

by Anonymousreply 10211/17/2012

Lotta would-be capitalist swine posting here. You do understand that you are part of the 99% too, right?

by Anonymousreply 10311/17/2012

R102 actually Union management salaries are NOT on the same level. They did not take a 300% increase.

You can also criticize them for being overpaid but the fault here lies totally with the management.

by Anonymousreply 10411/17/2012

Why didn't this go to binding arbitration?

by Anonymousreply 10611/17/2012

Because the CEOs were mad that Obama was elected...so they said, let's bust a union! If it were up to me, I'd be busting the heads of a few CEOs...I'd love to see that. Is there any way the employees could sue these CEOs and get into their offshore bank accounts?

by Anonymousreply 10711/17/2012

R106, because the business was in bankruptcy. They had no cash left. You can't make a company stay in business.

In bankruptcy, anyone can approach the court and offer to buy the business. It goes to the group who offers the best price and the money then is allocated to the investors who own the debt in the business.

If you buy the business as is, you inherit the plants and the employees and their union contracts.

No one, not a single group, thought they could run the business profitably so the winning bid now is by someone who will sell off the land and the rights to make the brands.

The bottom line is that the inherent costs of the business are too high - the costs being primarily the salaries. This is combined with the relative unappealing aspect of the products - Twinkies are not exactly following the current nutritional trends.

by Anonymousreply 10811/17/2012

They were demanding their workers take cuts in pay and benefits. Look into their history and see if the management CEOs ever took any cuts in pay. Or if shareholders profits went up up up while workers pay stayed the same.

by Anonymousreply 10911/17/2012

R109, you do understand that any equity shareholders lost ALL of their invested money in this deal.....

That is what generally happens in bankruptcy.

They did not shut down the company and walk away with a bunch of profits on their investment.

Shocking how little some of you understand about this

by Anonymousreply 11011/17/2012

[quote]Because the CEOs were mad that Obama was elected...so they said, let's bust a union!

The CEO was an outspoken supporter of Obama, idiot.

by Anonymousreply 11111/17/2012

Oh really? And you are going to tell me that the CEO and the board did not rip off the company? Instead of making changes to fix the company, they obviously robbed the company of all it's profits. The CEO is at the top...he's paid to keep the company going. The union had already made concessions. I might be an idiot but I don't mind saying, if those at the top would stop taking all the profits...they could keep a company running and keep people employeed.

by Anonymousreply 11211/17/2012

Hostess products including Twinkies are still manufactured in Quebec,Canada by Saputo Inc's Vachon Incorporated.

They do export to the USA so I wouldn't bother with stocking up or ebay scams.

Wait and see if Vachon picks up the slack.

by Anonymousreply 11311/17/2012

I wish the union could buy the company. I think it's always good if the employees own a share of the company then the success of the company, is on their shoulders.

by Anonymousreply 11411/17/2012

Since I know five people who have just lost their jobs (three of them 1-3 years away from retirement), I do know the higher ups will be getting a few million $, so they did have a few bucks left.

by Anonymousreply 11511/17/2012

The last round of concessions were a sham, just cheap theater for the press. The company was shelled, there was no way anyone could have taken the existing operation and made it run at this point. Remember, they were hours from this same result back in 2004, and this time it was even worse.

The Teamsters took their deal, and the company has already failed to keep their promises or make the required payments for health and pensions.

Even if the union had taken this deal, the company would have gone into liquidation in a matter of months (maybe weeks) unless the hedge funds already invested came up with millions more, and one of the hedge funds has already walked away and the other had zero interest in throwing good money after bad.

They were also already closing bakeries as fast as they could, so a large percentage of the workers would have been terminated over the next several months anyway.

Everyone involved realizes that the only value this company has are the brand names, and by liquidating now the hedge funds can do a clean deal for those, maybe sell a few of the better bakeries to the new buyer (they have to bake them somewhere and we're talking very specialized factories that would take months to build from scratch), so maybe 50% of the employees wind up working for the buyer, and long term (12 months or so) that's probably as many, if not more, than would have kept their jobs if they had taken the contract.

The logical buyer is probably Bimbo, and they already operate union bakeries across the US. The Hostess employees will almost certainly get first shot with Bimbo.

This was not an irrational act by the union even if the press and the PR machine is spinning it that way. And if you believe the script for this little soap opera isn't already written and agreed to by Hostess, Bimbo, the Unions, and probably the Bankruptcy Court, you're naive.

by Anonymousreply 11611/17/2012

The dumb asses deserved it.

by Anonymousreply 11711/17/2012

With 99 weeks of unemployment payments coming my way, I would also rather the company shut down than work in a twinkee bakery

by Anonymousreply 11811/17/2012

OMG! I'm crying as I type!

by Anonymousreply 11911/17/2012

[quote]I wish the union could buy the company. I think it's always good if the employees own a share of the company then the success of the company, is on their shoulders.

Unions can buy companies. The unionized employees at United Airlines used to own a majority of the business (before it went into bankruptcy).

The union employees at Hostess were offered 25% ownership of the company if they would accept the deal that they turned down.

The union (or anyone) could still buy the company today if they are willing to pay more than liquidation value.

by Anonymousreply 12011/17/2012

The teamsters had settled, but the bakers were idiots who just wanted to screw EVERYONE over a one year 4% cut in pay.

Happy Thanksgiving and Merry Christmas!!!

by Anonymousreply 12111/17/2012

Damn...I never did know how awful some of the additives are; for example: thiamine mononitrate can cause difficulty breathing, rashes, itching, and joint pain for people who have arthritis. That is one ingredient in Twinkies!

by Anonymousreply 12211/17/2012

WINNING

by Anonymousreply 12311/17/2012

r122

Has autism, morgellons and fibromyalgia

by Anonymousreply 12411/18/2012

I never liked twinkies or any Hostess cakes. I love Drakes Devil Dogs & Yodels & surely will miss them. For those saying they will get 99 weeks of unemployment, Do you seriously think they can make it on unemployment? Most have mortgages,Car insurance, credit card bills probably up the wazoo. These people, if they don't have plenty in savings need to find a job paying near what they made or they could be forced into losing homes, cars etc & may find themselves needing to file personal bankruptcies.

by Anonymousreply 12511/18/2012

My grocery store was sold out of all hostess products yesterday.

by Anonymousreply 12711/18/2012

FUNNY BONES! Someone please round up all the FUNNY BONES!

by Anonymousreply 12811/18/2012

My partner attended a work-related "pie party" last night, where everyone was supposed to bring a savory or sweet pie to share. He took a pie plate filled with a pile of Hostess Fruit Pies. He had to go to five or six different stores to find enough to fill the plate.

It was a big hit, and there were plenty of children attending to enjoy them.

by Anonymousreply 12911/18/2012

[quote] These lazy Obama supporting moochers, were too busy trying to suck more taxes from rich people who actually EARNED their money.

Where to begin? Ah yes, t'hell with you, apologist freeper reichwing, um, sociopath.

by Anonymousreply 13011/18/2012

All this shit is coming back. They'll sell the rights and recipes to other companies. (And no, not to Chinese companies. Chemicals in Twinkies are one thing. Lead and melamine and other nasty Chinese additives are another. Google the NYT article on food in China - yuck.)

by Anonymousreply 13111/18/2012

To the individual slammed by R130. I wouldn't put any credence in his comments.

He is also R62, R67, R76, R77, R79 and R103

Some of his previous hits include

[quote]I have a friend who's husband works for them. He wasn't for the strike - He should have been. It's in solidarity that people get health benefits, weekends off, worker's comp, etc. etc. etc. etc.

Great, the friend's husband is out of work because a minority of the employees didn't agree with the plan. Sounds fair to me. I hope you're doing more than talking and donating money to help these families who are now unemployed.

[quote]If Hostess had been properly unionized and FUCKING TREATING ITS WORKERS PROPERLY from the get-go, then this would not have happened. Instead they let kids get untreated for cancer and men and women working unpaid over-time in order to reap in profits. Like many businesses in the U.S., because capitalism in its pure state is a sociopathic maw that devours with relish.

Yikes, you better hope that Reynolds never goes out of business; otherwise, how will you make your tin hats?

[quote]Freep off, freeper-scab at [R54].

Got it

[quote]Sorry - I mean [R75], not [R54].

Uh, OK

[quote]I take it back - [R54] can freep off as well.

Thoughtful commentary, as always.

by Anonymousreply 13211/18/2012

[quote] For those saying they will get 99 weeks of unemployment

Union employees generally aren't eligible for unemployment benefits.

by Anonymousreply 13311/18/2012

And I stand by every post. As you no doubt don't stand but kneel, licking the boots of your master(s).

by Anonymousreply 13411/18/2012

I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of fatties suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened

by Anonymousreply 13511/18/2012

Bloomberg reports that the owner of Pabst is considering a bid for Hostess.

by Anonymousreply 13611/18/2012

[quote] Bloomberg reports that the owner of Pabst is considering a bid for Hostess

MMMMMM! Beer Twinkies!

by Anonymousreply 13711/18/2012

Things weren't always like this.

If Obama is truly serious about keeping people working, and getting off the trend that is wiping out the middle class, he would put together a bill that changing the laws that have allowed these kinds of leveraged buyouts possible ([italic]and so gosh darn profitable for the insiders at the top![/italic]). In fact, he'd have made such a bill a priority early on in his first term. But he didn't. And I can't recall him ever dropping so much as a hint that he plans on doing so.

Gee, what do you suppose is stopping him?

by Anonymousreply 13811/18/2012

[quote]"Hostess took Union members self funded pensions without their authorization to pay their debts - will not be paid back under bankruptcy"

Still think the union was being "greedy"?

by Anonymousreply 13911/19/2012

Like all right-wing scams, it was about breaking the union and stealing their pensions.

Its' pure greed on the part of the already-ultra-wealthy.

by Anonymousreply 14011/19/2012

FOX news in this area, blamed Obamacare.

by Anonymousreply 14111/19/2012

This is why UNIONS SUCK.

by Anonymousreply 14211/20/2012

They had one union, the Bakers Union. What in the hell is wrong with tradesman having unions? They do all the work...make the profit...why should they not share in the wealth?

Bet those CEOs, presidents, vice presidents, managers didn't make any concessions...it's always the workers who have to make concessions.

They let people start making fun of their products. They let people stress the fat they they aren't really healthy foods...big deal, is beer healthy? It just keeps selling.

by Anonymousreply 14311/20/2012

Uh, R143, there are investors who put up the money to create and operate a company. You know, like those who buy stock on the NYSE?

Shouldn't they get the profits?

Otherwise, they will invest elsewhere

by Anonymousreply 14411/20/2012

Yes, unions are part of America, just as murder is part of oakland, detroit and dc right along with welfare and section 8 housing. Why must you weenie liberals have a babysitter throughout your lives?

by Anonymousreply 14512/29/2012

I've heard rumors Twinkies and such might be coming back soon...

by Anonymousreply 14604/16/2013

Raise hand if you are happy with r143's news!

by Anonymousreply 14804/16/2013
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