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About that mandate... (Obama has one.)

A funny thing about mandates. While the general conservative reaction to the Obama victory is either pushing a fellow conservative off a tall building, or explaining that now that Obama won, he should govern like a conservative for unity's sake, the numbers are pretty interesting.

Remember that this is all preliminary, and there are votes yet to count. But for now, using Dave Leip's excellent US Election Atlas: [bold] • John Kerry (48.27%) got a bigger percentage of the popular vote than either Mitt Romney (47.85) or John McCain (45.6)

* Kerry's 251 electoral votes was greater than McCain's 173 and Romney's 206. (Losing didn't stop McCain from being on MTP every Sunday.)

• Barack Obama's electoral wins (332 and 365) dwarfs Bush's (286 and 271). Clinton got 379 and 370. You have to go back to 1988 for George HW Bush's 426 to find a Republican win over 300.

• Obama's 61,939,115 is more than Bush in 2000 (50,460,110) and closing in on Bush in 2004 (62,040,610 ) — remember, there are still votes to count. [UPDATE on Google puts Obama at 62,088,847 surpassing Bush.] [/bold]

Keep the above in mind when pundits declare there's no mandate here. [bold]These are the same pundits insisting the vote was tied.[/bold]

They were wrong about that, too.

by Anonymousreply 1611/27/2012


by Anonymousreply 111/12/2012

As of now, it's:

Obama 62,156,980 50.6%

Romney 58,805,060 47.9%

Still counting.

by Anonymousreply 211/12/2012

Be suspicious of pundits. They're for either the beltway's fomulated language -- or they're in favor of the status quo. They're elitists. They don't concern themselves with The People. See through their bullshit and dimiss them for the hacks they are.

by Anonymousreply 311/12/2012


by Anonymousreply 411/12/2012

2004 Flashback:

Winning 51 percent of the popular vote in Tuesday's election, Bush administration officials were quick to declare that the results constitute a "mandate" for Bush's second term. This interpretation of the election caught hold in the mainstream media - a sign perhaps that White House spin was triumphing over the actual numbers recorded on Election Day.

The Boston Globe (11/4/04) reported that Bush's victory grants him "a clear mandate to advance a conservative agenda over the next four years."

The Los Angeles Times (11/4/04) made the somewhat peculiar observation that "Bush can claim a solid mandate of 51 percent of the vote."

USA Today (11/4/04) was more definitive, headlining one story "Clear Mandate Will Boost Bush's Authority, Reach," while reporting that Bush "will begin his second term with a clearer and more commanding mandate than he held for the first."

The Washington Post (11/4/04) similarly pointed to Bush's "clearer mandate," implying that the election of 2000, in which Bush failed to get even a plurality of the popular vote, was a mandate of sorts, if an unclear one.

Has he "liberal" media been so generous with the term mandate with Obama's 52% win?

by Anonymousreply 511/12/2012

Well, now we know what Mitt Romney is doing after the election. He's at R6.

by Anonymousreply 711/12/2012

F&F R6, stupid fucking right-wing troll.

by Anonymousreply 811/12/2012

The president campaigned on ending the Bush tax cuts and won. I'd say the mandate is pretty clear.

by Anonymousreply 911/12/2012

Five presidents have won 50% of the vote twice:

1868- Ulysses S. Grant (R)- 52.7%

1872- Ulysses S. Grant (R)- 55.6%

1932 – Roosevelt (D) – 57.41%

1936 – Roosevelt (D) – 60.80%

1940 – Roosevelt (D) – 54.74%

1944 – Roosevelt (D) – 53.39%

1952 – Eisenhower (R) – 55.18%

1956 – Eisenhower (R) – 57.37%

1980 – Reagan (R) - 50.75%

1984 – Reagan (R) – 58.77%

2008 – Obama  (D) - 52.87%

2012 – Obama  (D) - 50.6% votes still being counted

by Anonymousreply 1011/12/2012

The president campaigned on ending the Bush tax cuts for people [italic]earning over 200,00 a year[/italic] and won. I'd say the mandate is pretty clear.

Fixed that for you. And I agree.

by Anonymousreply 1111/13/2012

Of course, and the Repugs can't get over it.

by Anonymousreply 1211/13/2012

The problem is Obama doesn't want to have a mandate. He likes giving in to Republicans. Watch who wins and who loses in the "Grand Bargain". Social Security age will be raised, Medicare will be cut, defense spending won't be touched.

by Anonymousreply 1311/13/2012

Oh fuck OFF, R13.

You're as bad as those who say Obama Hates America.

by Anonymousreply 1411/13/2012

Why bother with even that much effort, r14? They don't have shit to offer except hollow insults. That's it.

Let them post whatever they want, we laugh at them for trying so hard.

by Anonymousreply 1511/13/2012


by Anonymousreply 1611/27/2012
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