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Help Texas secede!

Petition needs 25k signatures by December 9.

"Peacefully grant the State of Texas to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government."

by Anonymousreply 11105/20/2015

In 10 years Texas will be a blue state.

by Anonymousreply 111/10/2012

If some of these fools leave, it might turn blue a lot faster.

by Anonymousreply 211/10/2012


by Anonymousreply 311/10/2012

Keep dreaming R1.

Mitt got 57.2 percent of the Texas vote to Obama's 41.4.

by Anonymousreply 411/10/2012

I will gladly sign to see those redneck egomaniacs start their own little facist country.

by Anonymousreply 511/10/2012

Who gets to vote?

by Anonymousreply 611/10/2012


by Anonymousreply 711/10/2012

I wonder why there are so many signatures from other states? Do they plan to move there?

by Anonymousreply 811/10/2012

Most of the signers are from outside Texas.

by Anonymousreply 911/10/2012

14 other states voted for Mitt Romney at a higher percentage than Texas. Texas is not the "reddest state in America" by FAR.

Rhetoric like this only serves to undercut the work we Texan democrats do every day to help make Texas a better place to live. There are truly more democrats than republicans here, but the myth that "democratic votes don't count in Texas" keep a good many people home away from the polls.

Generations of Texas democrats have been disenfranchised by this very powerful narrative that Texas can't change. Tell that to Ann Richards. It's time, and we're going to flip Texas.

by Anonymousreply 1011/10/2012

Gladly. Don't let the door hit you in the Wranglers.

by Anonymousreply 1111/10/2012

I have no problem with Texas leaving. Right after the rest of us steal it's oil.

by Anonymousreply 1211/10/2012

With Latino/a growth, TX will become a blue state.

by Anonymousreply 1311/10/2012

I wouldn't mind living in hill country. Not sure how long I would be able to handle it, but there are some nice things about it, mostly all those German smokehouses. Seriously good food.

by Anonymousreply 1411/10/2012

[quote]Texas is not the "reddest state in America" by FAR.

No one here said it was.

[quote]Rhetoric like this only serves to undercut the work we Texan democrats do every day to help make Texas a better place to live.

How nice for you and your hard work.

[quote]There are truly more democrats than republicans here

Mitt = 57.2 percent, Obama = 41.4.

by Anonymousreply 1511/10/2012

No, R7.

by Anonymousreply 1611/10/2012

As a Native Texan Democrat I was very proud of the way we turned out at the polls, I doubt any election has garnered this percentage of Democratic voters since carter or maybe LBJ..

by Anonymousreply 1711/10/2012

Before all you Marys go pushing Texas out of the country just remember: Kirker's going to have to live somewhere.

by Anonymousreply 1811/10/2012

So what [italic] is [/italic] the "reddest state in America?? Anyone know? I'm betting it's down south or in the west/midwest. In other words, far away from the population centers that live in the real world.

by Anonymousreply 1911/10/2012

Well, [italic]all[/italic] of the counties in Oklahoma, Utah, and Alaska voted for Romney. So the largest margin will be in one of these.

by Anonymousreply 2011/10/2012

You're precisely correct, R20. Nate Silver mentioned those three states as the most Republican on 538 just the other day.

by Anonymousreply 2111/10/2012

R20, don't forget West Virginia -- solidly red.

by Anonymousreply 2211/10/2012

Wow. They're becoming America's renegade province of Quebec!

by Anonymousreply 2311/10/2012

They don't speak English in Texas?

by Anonymousreply 2411/10/2012

Can we let them go, then go in and conquer them since they won't have a military?

by Anonymousreply 2511/10/2012

"While President Obama lost the state of Texas badly, he outpaced Gov. Mitt Romney in the state's four largest cities. "

by Anonymousreply 2611/10/2012

r25, everyone in Texas owns guns. Texas is already a militia state.

by Anonymousreply 2711/10/2012

Wow, there's a lot of blue in that electoral map. Yep, Texas is gonna be a blue state soon for sure.

by Anonymousreply 2811/10/2012

Well Texas can return to its roots. Many people forget Texas was an independent nation for 10 years after Mexico lost it and before the USA got a hold of it.

I certainly won't miss the idiots there. btw no offense but haven't seen any hot southern white gays...southern black gays yes though.

by Anonymousreply 2911/10/2012

Yeah, every county in Texas has exactly the same amount of people, R28.

by Anonymousreply 3011/10/2012

The nation would be better without red states

by Anonymousreply 3111/10/2012

Good luck selling that to the over half of the state that is black or Latino.

by Anonymousreply 3211/10/2012

Louisiana wants to secede as well

by Anonymousreply 3311/10/2012

[quote]Louisiana wants to secede as well


by Anonymousreply 3411/10/2012

Conservatives are happy about the petitions

by Anonymousreply 3511/10/2012

Full lists of states wanting to secede

by Anonymousreply 3611/10/2012

R32 - I'm pretty sure that they'll do what they can to send the Latinos back to Mexico and kill off the blacks ir send them to Africa like they've always wanted to once they do try and secede. Don't they still drag black people by trucks in parts of Texas when they get all "uppity"? I found a lot of the native blacks in the Dallas area to be very slave-like in their thinking due to the right-wing culture there.

by Anonymousreply 3711/10/2012

The jobs created from building a giant fence around Texas will be a boon for the economy!

by Anonymousreply 3811/10/2012

[quote] Most of the signers are from outside Texas.

ROFFL!!! Clearly, we all want Texas and Texans gone! Nothing but useless trash, weeds, and oppressive heat in that garbage heap of a state.

[quote] Louisiana wants to secede as well

HA! Please do! In fact, take Alaska, the entire South (except Virginia), Utah, North & South Dakota, Kansas, Nebraska, ESPECIALLY Oklahoma, Indiana, DEFINITELY Arizona, Idaho, Montana, and your little dog too! Fucking disgusting trash states.

This country would have been so much better off had Lincoln just let the South break off, and they would have turned into a fucking Banana Republic for sure!

Small minded stupid people - like those in red states - need to be taught a hard lesson in evolution. They need to learn that people need to move FORWARD and progress, not be stuck in their small-minded mentality.

The year is 2012 - not 1812 - stupid fuckers. Catch up to the rest of us, or shut the fuck up and get left behind. That should be the Democratic Party platform for 2016. We should be way beyond the ridiculous arguments that the conservative right is keeping us locked in.

They are dead weight, and need to be treated as such.

by Anonymousreply 3911/11/2012

I feel liberated and envigorated by Obama's victory.

In 2008, I was happy, but worried. Was it a fluke? What kind of President will he be?

This year, I feel like our country has taken a giant leap FORWARD, in reaffirming our commitment to Civil Rights, with all the gay marriage victories, and the Akin and Mourdoch defeats.

I feel like we are 2012, where we SHOULD be, and not 1940, where Republicans WANT us to be.

We have a two-term African American President, legalized gay marriage in four states, legalized marijuana in two states, and people just seem to be opening their minds.

I fucking love it!

Can you just imagine the progress we could make in this country if we got rid of the red states? If only...

by Anonymousreply 4011/11/2012

How will I get my bike?

by Anonymousreply 4111/11/2012

Oh please. Texas will not leave the US. And there are plenty of democrats in my state which is becoming younger and bluer every day.

by Anonymousreply 4211/11/2012

R4, you're letting your bias get in the way of demographic trending fact. Texas already has Democratic majorities in its five largest cities (Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, Austin, El Paso) and the Hispanic population's growth outpaces all others. The only city without a huge African American population is Austin, and Austin has a long history of being far left of the rest of the South, and left of most of the USA. If the national Democratic poobahs were paying attention, they'd focus some effort on Texas immediately.

by Anonymousreply 4311/11/2012

"Small minded stupid people"

Your thoughtful rant clearly sets you off from the states you attack, R39. All smart people know that those states are 100% Republican. Why can't they be more like 100% Democratic New York or gay marriage legalizing California?

by Anonymousreply 4411/11/2012

Houston has a lesbian mayor, it's the third biggest art market in the US (after LA and NY of course) and it has my family. Texas isn't all bad!

by Anonymousreply 4511/11/2012

[quote]This country would have been so much better off had Lincoln just let the South break off,

Right, R39, so they could keep all the blacks in slavery and so they won't move into your lily white neighborhood. Your racism is showing my friend.

by Anonymousreply 4611/11/2012

(after LA and NY of course)

actually, I believe that that is Chicago

by Anonymousreply 4711/11/2012

More than ten years ago Staten Islanders unanimously voted to secede from New York City. They're still waiting for their wishes to come true.

by Anonymousreply 4811/11/2012

Where would they go, R48?

WE don't want them.

by Anonymousreply 4911/11/2012

The vast majority of Texans don't want to secede. You have nutters everywhere - the Son of Sam and Paul Bernardo come to mind with New York and Canada, respectively.

by Anonymousreply 5011/11/2012

I think the reddest state is Mississippi.

by Anonymousreply 5111/11/2012

What can we do to help Texas become blue? I want its electoral votes.

by Anonymousreply 5211/11/2012

"15 States including Texas have filed a petition to secede from the United States"

The more the merrier

by Anonymousreply 5311/11/2012

Texas wants to secede so it can lobby for foreign aid.

by Anonymousreply 5411/11/2012

Good riddance to bad rubbish. I hope they succeed and if they do, every last goddamn federal job in Texas should be eliminated. Let those assholes have their beloved private sector build their economy from scratch :P

by Anonymousreply 5511/11/2012

The Texans are crapping themselves - they've called against a democratically elected president and demanded secession...

And all the wealthy states have finally turned round and said "Up yours. Bye-bye"

Arizona and Oklahoma next??

by Anonymousreply 5611/11/2012

It would be really fun to watch Texas secede and become its own little Jesusltopia and watch them put immigration caps on redneck refugees from the rest of the country trying to get in.

by Anonymousreply 5711/11/2012

Look at the county map of Texas and see how they voted. Every major city in Texas went to Obama. The whole border with Mexico went to Obama. Romney won the rest of the state by wider margins.

by Anonymousreply 5811/12/2012

Over 18k signatures now. Only 6 thousand left.

Texas will make the 25k for sure.

by Anonymousreply 5911/12/2012

[take] the entire South (except Virginia)

What about us?

by Anonymousreply 6011/12/2012

Mississippi is not the reddest state, not by a long shot.

Of all all the deep south slave states, the GOP-DEM percentages were closest together in Mississippi.

According to KKKarl Rove, Mississippi was only one of two states that INCREASED its DEM tally in the election last week.

Not by much, but still, this is Mississippi we're discussing.

Go Mississippi! Go one witcha bad seff.

by Anonymousreply 6111/12/2012

The Texas petition got 25 thousand signatures

by Anonymousreply 6211/12/2012

It's hilarious to see so many Republicans attacking Texas in this thread.

by Anonymousreply 6311/12/2012

so what happens now

by Anonymousreply 6411/12/2012

It's automatic, R64. Next year Texas will no longer be in the USA. All you need is 25K signatures and you're free.

by Anonymousreply 6511/12/2012

R64, wait for official reply from the White House

by Anonymousreply 6611/12/2012

Beautiful version of "So What Happens Now," from Evita. Singer is named Ashley.

by Anonymousreply 6711/12/2012

The idiot Governor of our state, Perry, is a open secessionist.

by Anonymousreply 6811/12/2012

Give it back to Mexico!!

by Anonymousreply 6911/12/2012

What does the 25,000 signatures do? Even if all the signatories were from Texas- which they're not- that's only 0.1% of the population of Texas. That's hardly a majority opinion. What, do they get it on the ballot next election?

The Supreme Court deemed unilateral succession unconstitutional after the Civil War anyway, so all this does is further prove these idiots have no idea how the government actually works.

by Anonymousreply 7011/12/2012

Texas can stay! What about Dallas LGBT people? What about the Austin liberals? I don't want to need a passport to get to SXSW!

by Anonymousreply 7111/12/2012

Crime would drop. Teenage pregnancies would drop. The welfare state would be gone. Let all the red states secede. Why didn't Lincoln just let them go?

by Anonymousreply 7211/12/2012

It's not a red state-blue state thing; it's an urban-rural thing.

by Anonymousreply 7311/12/2012

I would never vote or sign a petition for Texas to be allowed to secede. I like Texas and most of the people there too. It's a beautiful place with few real negatives. Yes the rethugs are in control of politics, but Texas will be a blue state in less than 5 years.

Texas deserves better from us at Datalounge.

by Anonymousreply 7411/12/2012

R73 is right.

[quote]with few real negatives

That's an understatement

by Anonymousreply 7511/12/2012

With such a large Latino population we can turn Texas blue. That should be what we focus on.

by Anonymousreply 7611/12/2012

If Texas secedes, we won't have to send money to their military bases, we can tax their oil as imports, we can even save on social security (where they are net takers). Yes, it makes fiscal sense to let Texas go, as long as we deprive them of all nuclear arms first.

by Anonymousreply 7711/12/2012

Texas is a big state and there is a lot of good democrats there, so no OP I'm not going to sign a petition for them to secede. Let the right wing scum put up with becoming a blue state, again, or they can find some fascist country they can bless with their presence.

by Anonymousreply 7811/12/2012

Molly Ivins, Ann Richards, Janis Joplin and Joan Crawford are the only good things to ever come out of Texas.

by Anonymousreply 7911/12/2012

And don't forget Mississippi actually voted down the "Personhood Amendment" last November. Go Mississippi indeed!

by Anonymousreply 8011/12/2012

I wish all of the red states would secede. We'd all be a lot happier as two countries instead of one.

by Anonymousreply 8111/12/2012

The entire notion is asinine. Plenty of dems live in red states, and conservatives in blue states. Are we supposed to start playing fruit basket turnover with the states we live in?

by Anonymousreply 8211/12/2012

We don't want to kick out the idiots, we want to keep them so we can ridicule them forever.

by Anonymousreply 8311/12/2012

Yes dems start moving out of red states.

by Anonymousreply 8411/12/2012

[quote]Plenty of dems live in red states, and conservatives in blue states. Are we supposed to start playing fruit basket turnover with the states we live in?

Dems in red states are truly delusional. Blue states usually don't hinder the freedoms and choices of either dems or repubs. But red states have or try to have policies which hinder the freedoms and choices of both dems and repubs.

Your good hearts and intentions won't change the phobes living around you.

Dems in red states, wake up!!!

by Anonymousreply 8511/12/2012

Since we go through this 'separation' issue every few years here in Canada we've got a few things to ponder for Texans or those who might like to secede from the USA.

What percentage of the US national debt will you as a new nation be responsible for? You don't just get to wander off without assuming your part of the debt.

What will you use for currency? It certainly won't be the US $.

What other countries do you think will recognize the new Texas or Mississippi or whatever?

What if the first nations and urban citizens refuse to leave with you? Aboriginals have their own treaties with the government not with you. They may put up a fight and kick your ass.

What about passports? You will definitely not be using the US one.

How long do you think it would take to have your new nation recognised to enable able one to travel or work inside or outside the now 49 United States with your Texas passport and assuming you could get a work visa or even a job?

Without the entire tax base of the USA supporting you do you expect a decrease or increase in taxation?

What compensation will you as a Texas taxpayer be willing to pay to companies that have assets in the New Texas and cannot move them out but demand restitution?

What incentives will you come up with to encourage multinationals and other foreign companies (which will now also include the good ol' USA) to keep their head offices and operations in your new country and where will you get the $$$$ they will demand.

The USA will of course also demand free access through Texas via the highway system, railways flight paths- they certainly aren't going to go around your borders. After all generations of Federal taxpayers paid for it. You don't just get to keep the infrastructure without paying for it.

... and the list goes on and on... lots of interesting things to think about.

by Anonymousreply 8611/12/2012

I'm a flag-waving patriot until I dont get my way.

by Anonymousreply 8711/12/2012

Have long wished for it.

by Anonymousreply 8811/12/2012

A better idea, OP, is to help Texas turn Blue.

It wasn't that long ago that Texas WAS blue... at least it had a Democratic governor in Ann Richards (fabulous dame that she was).

Almost all the major cities went for Obama this year, along with most of the southern and border counties.

It's forecast that in 10-20 years, Texas will go blue anyway... but if we work at it, I'm sure we can get it to turn faster.

by Anonymousreply 8911/12/2012


by Anonymousreply 9011/12/2012

A bump, for discussion.

Wouldn't we all like to be split into smaller countries?

by Anonymousreply 9105/17/2013

Texas is the only state in America that HASNT gone bankrupt. They know what the fuck they're doing.

by Anonymousreply 9205/18/2013

How stupid is r85?

"But red states have or try to have policies which hinder the freedoms and choices of both dems and repubs. ? Name a few...

by Anonymousreply 9305/18/2013

That's not true R92.

by Anonymousreply 9405/18/2013

Best of all, all my cousins in Waco think getting a passport is for hippies and socialists. Win!

by Anonymousreply 9505/18/2013

I agree with R1.

by Anonymousreply 9605/18/2013

Good God, why not?

by Anonymousreply 9705/24/2013

Good God, why not?

The differences between the states has become a major issue.

Some states want to allow people to openly carry guns, while some want to ban them completely.

Some states want to allow gay marriage (and all the Federal benefits) while some don't.

Some states want medical marijuana, or restrict abortion, or refuse to comply with the ACA.

Why not let each state just do what it wants, and if people want to move then we can see which states are better or worse?

by Anonymousreply 9805/24/2013

Please sign the petition-

They don't want to be under the control of you any more than you want to be under the control of them.

Why can't we just split the country into smaller sections and get along?

by Anonymousreply 9905/29/2013

Oh, please let Texas secede.

by Anonymousreply 10012/09/2014


by Anonymousreply 10112/31/2014

Can't we just nuke it into a smoldering pile of radioactive ash instead?

by Anonymousreply 10201/01/2015


Set Texas free!!!

by Anonymousreply 10305/12/2015

[quote] Set Texas free!!!

Free? This is America, not some socialist country where we give everything away. If they want to be free they can buy their state from the Federal Government at market rate (trillions)

by Anonymousreply 10405/12/2015


Like slaves in the South used to be able to buy their freedom?

At least I know you consider us all slaves to the government.

by Anonymousreply 10505/12/2015

Did this thread survive the Betalounge Purge of Unacceptable Topics for Discussion?

by Anonymousreply 10605/19/2015

I'm a'gin it!

There are close to 49% blue people in Texas. Good people. Plus it sets a bad example for Florida, also with 49%, and my cousins!

by Anonymousreply 10705/19/2015

Funny, R107

by Anonymousreply 10805/19/2015

The Second Republic of Texas won't last a week against Mexican drug lords.

by Anonymousreply 10905/19/2015


Are you that stupid?

Mexico has 100% gun control laws. Texas has 3 guns for every citizen.

by Anonymousreply 11005/19/2015

Mexico is not afraid of Texas' guns.

by Anonymousreply 11105/20/2015
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