In other words: Collapsed, hanging in there or prolapsed?
Paul Ryan: Fucked, not fucked or really fucked?
|by Anonymous||reply 66||11/15/2012|
This will have no effect on his career, except to lift him.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||11/07/2012|
Not at all fucked. He still has the powerful job he had before, and the Republican right won't blame him for the loss. He'll be running in 2016 for sure.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||11/07/2012|
He'll probably run for the top spot 4 years from now.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||11/07/2012|
Now I'm already scared for next term.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||11/07/2012|
I think he'll want to be president in 2016
|by Anonymous||reply 6||11/07/2012|
Why be scared? He'd never win. Far too radical.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||11/07/2012|
He is in line to run again and will probably think the nomination is his due. But all the bullshit he laid down over the last few months will come back and bite him in his pale lily white ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||11/07/2012|
He's in seclusion in the Capitol gym's sauna with Aaron Schock.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||11/07/2012|
It will be interesting to see if he carries on the same partisan way as before in his role as a congressman. I believe he will as long as the GOP continues to think it doesn't have to change its spots at all, which is what some hard-core conservatives are arguing.
But if that changes, so will he if he wants to run again in 2016. And his hard-core fans won't like that.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||11/07/2012|
Boy, he sure ditched Mitt, didn't he? He's a cold bastard and R8 is right, he's said some crazy shit. Didn't he just go all 'Obama 2nd term means the end of days!' at some recent fundie rally? Yeah, he's all about the fiscal issues.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||11/07/2012|
If the Dems can find a way to take back the House during midterms, he'll lose a lot of his clout.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||11/07/2012|
His taint is now tainted.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||11/07/2012|
He is a very scary politician. He is the poster child for the far right. He will be around for decades to come.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||11/07/2012|
It's actually lucky for him that Romney kept him muzzled throughout the campaign, thereby leaving open the possibility that, had he been freer to express his views, the ticket might have prevailed. (This possibility seems to me remote as a matter of fact, but nonetheless one that Fox might pick up in coming weeks.)
|by Anonymous||reply 15||11/07/2012|
Ryan and Cantor are neck and neck in the race for Sociopath Poster Child of the GOP.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||11/07/2012|
|by Anonymous||reply 17||11/07/2012|
[quote]Ryan and Cantor are neck and neck in the race for Sociopath Poster Child of the GOP.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||11/07/2012|
I saw somewhere that Ryan and his budget have been rendered irrelevant by this election.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||11/07/2012|
He should do some porn. He's hot as hell.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||11/07/2012|
He may still be a valuable party operative, and might even make it into the Senate someday, but he's too repulsive for a successful White House run.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||11/07/2012|
He makes GWB look good.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||11/08/2012|
A Paul Ryan presidential campaign would make people miss the warmth and compassion of Romney.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||11/08/2012|
[quote]He'll be running in 2016 for sure.
Nope, he shot his load and his extreme views were rejected and they are not goig to be embraced four years from now. He'll stay put for another twenty years.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||11/08/2012|
r16 nailed it. Thread closed.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||11/08/2012|
He was exposed for the real douche/ tea partier he is. As Rachel commented, before the election, he was being primed for big things. Now he's a loser, and seems small - people got to see the real Ryan. Still think he's cute though- but in a dumb yell king kind of way.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||11/08/2012|
I think he's really fucked.
He'll remain a darling of the far right, but the far right is not enough anymore. The general public at large found him to be a joke after the Biden debate and his policies were already viewed as insane and nonsensical before that.
What this election proved is the country's had enough. Even if it votes a Republican in again someday it will not be THESE Republicans. Paul Ryan is the furthest thing from the center imaginable, and comes off like an idiot child when asked to talk any real policy - clueless and scared. Americans don't vote in a scared wimp.
He will remain adored by right wingers. But nationally? No, he's done.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||11/08/2012|
Since he ran for his Congressional seat, it seems that he really didn't have faith in the Romney/Ryan ticket.
|by Anonymous||reply 28||11/08/2012|
At the beginning of the primary season when possible running mates were being discussed, Ryan was dismissed by the msnbc pundits as being "unelectable" due to his extremely conservative views.
Romney would have known that had he ever watched msnbc.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||11/09/2012|
I think he comes off as quite unlikeable. People will remember him as also being paired with the unlikeable Romney. And he did not wash the dishes.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||11/09/2012|
I hope he does run in 2016 we need another extremist right wing candidate.
The WSJ today basically said they think he shot his load.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||11/09/2012|
It's all in the photos...
|by Anonymous||reply 32||11/09/2012|
[quote]He'll be running in 2016 for sure.
I'm not sure about that.
And even if he does, it's unlikely he'll win.
History is against him. I don't think any losing V.P. nominee has ever gone on to be President
|by Anonymous||reply 33||11/09/2012|
His views on abortions resulting from rape, he's against it, make him unelectable. But that's exactly why he should be the Republican Presidential candidate!
|by Anonymous||reply 34||11/09/2012|
He's the Republican Party's idea of a Jersey Shore castmember. In 2016 Paul Ryan is as over as the Jersey Show is.
The Republican Party will step up its game and present a PR media worthy (= fake and plastic) candidate who will avoid most of the mistakes Romney/Paul made by being briefed and prepped up by an excellent campaign staff which got handpicked by Rove and friends. That candidate will look and act appealing to the masses and [bold]not ruffle any feathers [/bold](like pissing off the women by publically trying to dismiss or diminish their rights - a stench that will follow Paul for the rest of his career) in public. The image will be carefully crafted and every threat that could tarnish that very image (like secret recordings) will be dealt with swiftly. By not offending the minorities while yet reaching out the base with Christian family friendly rethoric - always positive and never negative - none of the opposing groups will be able to manage to rile up the masses to vote against the Republican candidate. The voter fraud fix will take care of the rest.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||11/09/2012|
[quote]I don't think any losing V.P. nominee has ever gone on to be President
FDR was the VP candidate on the losing ticket in 1920. Democrats James Cox and FDR lost to Republicans Harding and Coolidge.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||11/09/2012|
[quote]made by being briefed and prepped up by an excellent campaign staff which got handpicked by Rove and friends
but, but these last candidates had the same treatment! what the fuck happened? it's like as soon as a camera was pointed at them they ran off the rails!
|by Anonymous||reply 37||11/09/2012|
his wife has the same mouth as Taylor on BH housewifes
|by Anonymous||reply 38||11/09/2012|
r37, I don't think Rove had any say in who gets to deal with Romney/Paul on a day to day basis during the campaign.
I think that was the main reason why the Republican Party lost in the first place. They went for a high profile businessman who wasn't going to take any marching orders from Rove and instead surrounds himself with brown nosed minions who say yes to everything Romney demands while being completly incompetent for the job. That's why I think the next candidate will be a nobody who will let Rove tell him what to do and say.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||11/09/2012|
He's very young, by the standards of GOP nominees. With the exception of W, all of the modern GOP nominees have been either over 55, VP or previous VP, or both.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||11/09/2012|
Thanks, R36. : ) I think I remember that now.
But it's interesting that one has to go back almost 100 years to 1920 to find an example.
So the fact remains that in MODERN history, being a losing V.P. nominee has been fatal.
That's why I don't rate Ryan's chances as being very good.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||11/09/2012|
I agree with the invaluable Poll Troll; Jack Kemp (rumored to have been bi and Ryan's patron) was a very electable seeming VP candidate for Bob Dole but got nowhere, for example. I remember the assholes on CNN talking of Palin as a viable presidential candidate into the fall of 2011, and she seemed to be flirting with trying. But now she's an embarrassing asterisk on the ass of the pig party. Dan Quayle even tried to run and got nowhere, though he had been part of a winning team for one term. People thought Lloyd Benson was very presidential but any ambitions he had evaporated quickly. However time is on Ryan's side; he's 42, and no one can know what will happen in twenty years if he stays in politics and erases this loss -- as a governor for example (as FDR did).
|by Anonymous||reply 42||11/09/2012|
One note about Lloyd Bentsen though: even though he and Dukakis lost in 1988, when Bill Clinton won in 1992, he appointed Bentsen to his cabinet as a reward for winning the 1988 V.P. debate against Dan Quayle.
And when it comes to Ryan, FDR may have gone on to become President after losing the Vice-Presidency, but as Lloyd Bentsen would say, Paul Ryan is no FDR.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||11/09/2012|
[quote]I don't think any losing V.P. nominee has ever gone on to be President
A losing Prexy candidate has!
|by Anonymous||reply 44||11/09/2012|
"I saw somewhere that Ryan and his budget have been rendered irrelevant by this election."
That is correct.
The country is obviously changing, swaying more to the left, American born citizens, as well as newly legal US citizens, are truly disgusted. The rich want even more for themselves, yet nickel'n'dime the rest of us, this doesn't sit well with most intelligent Americans!
Immigrants come here to get away from their oppressive countries, there is no way these new US citizens, many fleeing bondage from their Fascist countries, would want to live under the Fascist situations someone like Ryan was proposing!
This Ryan weirdo is anti-everything, he might as well have been handing out Chastity Belts to his female constituents! He's an oppressive freak.
The racist old white male politicians will replaced by people, men and women, of different sexual orientations, nationalities, races, ethnic groups and religions. Hardcore extreme Conservative Evangelical ReThugs are a dying breed. The faster they die off the better! T
There will always be racists living in trailer parks who want their guns, but soon enough even dumb rednecks will wake up to see the true agenda of the Extreme Right! It's all about them and their money, nothing more, they don't care about this country!
Ryan hasn't got a chance of ever becoming President. Freepers, DREAM ON!
|by Anonymous||reply 45||11/09/2012|
"People thought Lloyd Benson was very presidential but any ambitions he had evaporated quickly."
R42 - Democrats seldom nominate old guys.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||11/09/2012|
[R42]. You suggesting that Ryan sucked his way to the bottom?
|by Anonymous||reply 47||11/09/2012|
Tie him face down, I will fuck him
|by Anonymous||reply 48||11/09/2012|
Ryan's college girl friend was a black chick. He was smart enough to marry a rich white girl.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||11/09/2012|
Now he will have time to work on wiping better
|by Anonymous||reply 50||11/09/2012|
He and Romney look like they are lying all the time whenever they speak. His 1950s haircut coupled with the wish to return to the worse aspects of the 1950s makes him creepy.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||11/09/2012|
FDR was also a losing VP nominee in 1920, back when he could walk.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||11/09/2012|
[quote]And he did not wash the dishes.
That incident, where he pretended to be washing pots and pans at a shelter, paints him as a phony.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||11/09/2012|
He won re-election (although I am still wondering how he was allowed to do that and run for VP at the same time.) I don't know if he has a future for further office; he is pretty bland and forgettable. He has a Dan Quayle vibe about him.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||11/09/2012|
He's OVAH! He was so toxic the campaign couldn't utilise him at all and he didn't even deliver his home state! Plus, he lost his debate to Biden! He brought nothing. No one will even win an Emmy for playing him in an HBO film!
I think what you mean is, he's still a pretender to the throne, but in this game of thrones his capital has been spent. He's the PROBLEM with the GOP not the SOLUTION.
The GOP is going to build up some shallow brown-skinned puppet like Rubio and still lose. It's going to take them a while to realise it's not about surfaces but core, foundational beliefs.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||11/09/2012|
Sorry, he had his chance and he blew it. He never made that magical connection with the American Public that was necessary to turn him into a rock star, and the stakes are too high to give him a second shot.
He can keep his seat forever and wind up Speaker of the House, although Cantor has the edge there, but that's as high as he goes.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||11/09/2012|
Dan Quayle was nice but dim.
Paul Ryan is ambitious, narcissistic, venal, cruel BUT DIM. This was the guy who was supposed be "the numbers guy" but when asked by Chris Wallace to explain the numbers he said, "You wouldn't understand." Yeah, right. He's an idiot. Nobody went for his little boy diction.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||11/09/2012|
Yeah, he is worse than Dan Quayle.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||11/09/2012|
totally agree with r56.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||11/09/2012|
He looks like a brown-noser.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||11/09/2012|
The pots and pans, the exaggerated marathon time, Uncle Joe going all Scranton on his ass making him look like a tepid amateur ... He's done.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||11/09/2012|
Dan Quayle was an idiot, but everyone knew it, and Bush didn't give him anything important to do. Ryan, on the other hand, has big "ideas" and has come up with a ridiculous budget proposal that they take seriously.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||11/09/2012|
I heard Ryan is working on his own reality tv show called "Loosing With Ryan" were he puts a bunch of fat people in a gym and makes them lose weight by training with him.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||11/09/2012|
[quote]"Loosing With Ryan"
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|by Anonymous||reply 66||11/15/2012|