The definition of self-indulgent filmmaking.
|by Jimmcf||reply 27||12/30/2013|
I want to see it.
|by Jimmcf||reply 1||10/20/2012|
Did that finally get released? Is Matt Damon in it?
|by Jimmcf||reply 2||10/20/2012|
Is this Margaret as in Hey, God, It's Me?...
|by Jimmcf||reply 3||10/20/2012|
Why this took so many years to edit is beyond belief.
|by Jimmcf||reply 4||10/20/2012|
Did you mean to say "beyond me" R4?
|by Jimmcf||reply 5||10/20/2012|
It seems like it was not edited at all - it was 2 1/2 hours long! Matt Damon is in it as a teacher. It was on Amazon for $1.99 a couple of weeks back - and just watched now.
|by Jimmcf||reply 6||10/20/2012|
I watched it last week after the sale on amazon,too.
Oh mercy! I want my 1.99 back.
|by Jimmcf||reply 7||10/20/2012|
Unless you financed it or was forced to watch it, what do you care?
|by Jimmcf||reply 8||10/20/2012|
r5, No. It is another, perhaps more archaic, way of saying I cannot believe it took so many years to edit the film.
|by Jimmcf||reply 9||10/20/2012|
It was a brilliant movie. I saw a very sold out screening when it was re-released in NYC and loved it. Anna P was transcendent and should have won an Oscar for her performance.
|by Jimmcf||reply 10||10/20/2012|
"Beyond belief" and "beyond me" are similar but distinct phrases. I'm sure you meant say "beyond me" as you started the sentence with the word "why". "Belief" would have made more sense if you'd written, "It took so many years to edit--it was beyond belief."
Why'd it take so many years to edit? Tell us, and we'll decide if it was beyond belief.
|by Jimmcf||reply 11||10/20/2012|
How did The Damon Butt look in it?
|by Jimmcf||reply 12||10/21/2012|
It was the Damon Butt during the Bourne years (I think it was filmed in 2004), so it looked good. Actually, it was strange just how young Damon and especially Paquin looked, especially after watching five years of "True Blood."
The film is messy, but it's Paquin's best adult performance, and J. Smith-Cameron (the trashy shifter mom on "True Blood," completely different here) and Jeannie Berlin (Elaine May's daughter) are both excellent.
|by Jimmcf||reply 13||10/21/2012|
This got incredible reviews in the UK last year, it landed on a lot of critics' Ten Best lists.
|by Jimmcf||reply 14||10/21/2012|
The most pretentious fillmore evah
|by Jimmcf||reply 15||10/21/2012|
I watched it last night. First time I've seen Paquin in a film since The Piano. I was shocked at what a good adult actress she's become. The main thread about the bus accident and her relationship with the dead woman's friend was excellent, but there were too many extraneous scenes and little character development for her. Why did she want that guy to take her virginity, for instance. The Matt Damon scenes could have been cut completely.
Question: in the final scene with the lawyer conference call, she says "I killed her" or something like that. Did she tell the friend that before? Was it in her deposition? It was confusing because i'm sure if they knew, the people close to the dead woman would have found her partly responsible.
The writing was fantastic, its a nice depiction of raw, shaken post-9/11 NY, but with a little more shaping it could have been a great 90 min or 2 hour movie.
|by Jimmcf||reply 16||10/24/2012|
I gather the editing took a long time because while there is a story, it isn't an airtight, has-to-be-linear plot, if that makes sense. Many of the scenes could have been swapped, shortened, changed, etc, and given an entirely new meaning. That is an editing job that takes more time and in a way can never be truly finished. Change one thing and then you realize that two other things have to be changed to fit, then it goes on from there. Maybe not as long as this took, but its no walk in the park for an editor.
|by Jimmcf||reply 17||10/24/2012|
Loved it, paquin was fantastic and the scene at the end at the opera was one of the most beautiful in any movie I've watched.
|by Jimmcf||reply 18||12/02/2012|
"the definition of self-indulgent filmmaking"
Not as long as Paul Thomas Anderson is alive.
|by Jimmcf||reply 19||12/02/2012|
Anna Paquin is still a very promising actress.
|by Jimmcf||reply 20||12/02/2012|
They were all loathome, but I liked it.
|by Jimmcf||reply 21||12/02/2012|
Just saw it for the first time on hbo. I can't understand why so many people hate or just dismiss it. Yes, it's long but I wasn't bored for a second.
It also reminded me that J. Smith Cameron is one of our finest actresses (and has been since I first saw her in Crimes of the Heart on Broadway).
|by Jimmcf||reply 22||12/15/2013|
I bought the extended cut on DVD last month - don't know if it's a "director's" cut or just approved by Lonergan but it's the longest available. I decided to get high and watch it on Christmas Day as the start of a number of films I was going to watch:
Margaret Magnolia, PTA All The Vermeers In New York, Jon Jost Drifting Clouds, Kaurismaki
However, it took me 4 days to get through Margaret. It's not for everybody. What the previous poster had to say about the task of editing and giving shape to something like this is certainly true - and I wonder if given the time it would've made those long 360 takes of Central Park and birds flying through the sky more pertinent and effective or more obviously irrelevant. The poster who states how well this captures the raw, nerve-jaggling post-9/11 NYC is certainly right as well, though it almost seems like a moment that was captured without context as if Lonergan firmly believed NYC would be irrevocably changed by those events, somehow frozen in time unable to move forward.
One thing for sure is that Lonergan had a lot on his mind and captured a lot of it, in all its messy glory, in the character of Lisa Cohen; and yet, it's not just Lisa but the people around her, adults who should know better, who seem to be encouraging and conditioning her to be less than she can be, less moral, less just, less concerned about others, less of everything. So the film reflects back on an established mindset, a peculiar strain of American anomie.
In the end, Margaret is what it is. I wish I had viewed it all in one sitting and though I'd like to say I'd watch it again, that probably won't happen. I did think that Lonergan's view of NYC was distinct (and frankly more authentic) than Allen and Scorsese. And much of Margaret is reminiscent of Cassavetes in spirit if not wholly in style. I am suspect of the use of opera in cinema but will forgive Lonergan the final scene since it was less about the opera and more about the moment everything catches up with Lisa Cohen, brilliantly played by Paquin. And Mark Ruffalo is always hot.
|by Jimmcf||reply 23||12/30/2013|
Thanks, R23, but you know what we're really interested in.
|by Jimmcf||reply 24||12/30/2013|
Okay R24: Matt Damon looks really young in it and there were no discernible shots of The Damon Butt.
|by Jimmcf||reply 25||12/30/2013|
Thank you, R25.
|by Jimmcf||reply 26||12/30/2013|
It was ok, but I thought the ending was a little weak.
|by Jimmcf||reply 27||12/30/2013|