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I'm embarrassed to admit this......

But I don't know very much about nutrition. I don't know what foods I should be avoiding. I've quit drinking most soda because of the high fructose corn sugar in it, tho I will drink a Coke when I can find the type bottled in Mexico.  I've heard that all corn products should be avoided because all corn is now genetically modified and probably dangerous in the long run. Also heard that all soy products are bad for the same reason. One of my friends has said that I'd be amazed by how bad for you so many foods are.

So what else should I be avoiding?

by Anonymousreply 4410/13/2012

P.S. I try to eat pretty healthy, lots of fruit and vegetables, lean meat, tho I do give into my craving for a cheeseburger about once a week.

by Anonymousreply 110/12/2012

Radishes and Leeks. That's it. The rest will kill you.

by Anonymousreply 210/12/2012

The stories that genetically modified foods are not good for you have little basis in fact or science.

I highly recommend Stewart Brand's WHOLE EARTH DISCIPLINE, where he points out most of the myths people believe about genetically modified food have little basis in reality and more to do with our lingering fears about scientists modifying living forms that go back to Mary Shelley's FRANKENSTEIN.

by Anonymousreply 310/12/2012

We don't know what the long-term effects of eating eating GMO food are. Some skepticism is healthy when you're dealing with unknowns.

by Anonymousreply 410/12/2012

Avoid processed food and eat the things your grandmother would have recognized. You'll do fine.

by Anonymousreply 510/12/2012

Isn't it true that genetically modified foods haven't been arround long enough for them to be sure that they're harmless?

My father was a doctor (oncologist) and he was very against genetically modified food. He said the one thing they know about cancer is that it's caused by a genetic change, and giving your body a non stop supply of genetically modified food is bound to cause problems,probably ones they have only arely seen. By the time they figure it out that genetically modified foods are causing illness, and cancer, most of the people getting sick will have had a life time of eating genetically modified foods.

by Anonymousreply 610/12/2012

anyone know if all soy products are bad? i've got a 'holier than thou' vegan friend who eats a lot of soy "meats", and i'd love tell her about this if it's true.

by Anonymousreply 710/12/2012

I'm more afraid of pesticides than GMO food. I buy only organic, unless I can find produce that was grown in Canada, which has banned the more dangerous pesticides. Canada also uses less HFCS. Canadian Coke and Oreo cookies contain sugar, not HFCS.

R5 is right. Avoid processed foods and get back to basics. Also watch your serving sizes. Most people don't know that they are overeating. Food used to be naturally smaller. Now everything is freakishly large like it's from the Land of the Lost.

by Anonymousreply 810/12/2012

Soy increases estrogen in humans and should be avoided. Excess estrogen causes breast cancer as well as other issues.

by Anonymousreply 910/12/2012

OP, if there's one unwritten rule on Datalounge it's never, ever, ever to ask a medical question here. Apparently everyone who posts here is some sort of hysterical projecting hypochondriac--they'll have you convinced in five minutes you've going to die of a tumor or diabetes or the plague any second now.

Just look at the "experts" lined up on this thread dispensing advice.

by Anonymousreply 1010/12/2012

[quote]Isn't it true that genetically modified foods haven't been arround long enough for them to be sure that they're harmless?

We've been genetically modifying food since the Neolithic era. It's called farming.

by Anonymousreply 1110/12/2012

Eat at least a couple of vegetables a day and a couple of fruit a day, OP. It's easy if you buy bags of frozen veggies and fruit. You can heat up the veggies on a plate, uncovered, for about 3 minutes in the microwave and they're cooked.

The fruit can go in your oatmeal or cereal in the morning. Buy some bags of fresh apples, oranges, bananas or whatever you like, wash a few, and put them in a pretty bowl somewhere you will pass by them. Keep the rest in the fridge until you've eaten the first batch. You don't have to be a good cook to eat veggies and fruit. At least you'll be eating something that has some vitamins and no salt in it.

by Anonymousreply 1210/12/2012

Avoid fried foods.

Avoid soft drinks.

Drink fruit juices only in small doses (they're very high in calories). Never more than 8oz a day.

by Anonymousreply 1310/12/2012

corn designed to cause pests to explode strays quite away from 'farming'.

roundup pesticide is routinely found in fetal blood.

by Anonymousreply 1410/12/2012

Pepsi has a version called Pepsi Flashback that is made with real sugar. It's the same price and as far I know it's widely available. I think it tastes slightly different and better, but it could be my imagination.

by Anonymousreply 1510/12/2012

OP I have no idea how old you are or if you're overweight for your height. nevertheless, I will say this. There are some fruits & veggies you should by organic because the pesticides are carcinogens and will eventually bite you in the ass.

Buy stevia or organic sugar, and use it sparingly. Look at everything you buy for the sugar content, sodium content, and carbs as well as fat. If a cereal has 23 grams of sugar get rid of it. That's way too much.

Stuff like carrots, potatoes and strawberries you need to buy organic. most other stuff like bananas and oranges, grapefruit, pineapples, etc are fine. Just make sure you thoroughly wash your fruits and veggies well.

As for meat, yes lean meat for sure, but if you can eliminate the red meat it would be better for you. Just make sure when you buy chicken you get the kind with no hormones, antibiotics, or additives. It will be clearly labeled.

Buy grass fed beef. Don't eat processed foods. They have no nutritional value, they are high in sodium,and nitrites and nitrates cause cancer. You can find bacon without the additives, and you can find hot dogs without nitrites.

Eat grains vegetables and beans that are high in fiber. Never eat white bread. Eat whole grain bread and eat as little as possible. Don't eat white rice, eat brown rice. Get some books on Mediterranean dietary habits. Avoid vegetable oils and go with Olive oil instead.

Go to farmers markets, go to Whole Foods, Trader Joes, and you'd be surprised but Costco has some really good stuff. Eat plain Greek yogurt and put your own fruit in it, or some honey. Free range chickens, eggs too.

It might sound expensive,but it isn't. Get into the habit. I spend about $45-$50 a week. Take vitamins, too. Avoid too much fruit juice that's really high in sugar. Get fresh squeezed OJ if you drink it. Snack on nuts like almonds walnuts & pecans and get away from the cashews and peanuts.

Altho, if you go to a good market you can find some delicious freshly made Peabut butter with no additives. Add some honey to it and it is delish!

by Anonymousreply 1610/12/2012

You can learn the same way I did.

by Anonymousreply 1710/12/2012

avoid buying packaged foods with more than four ingredients in them.


by Anonymousreply 1810/12/2012

For a long time I didn't have a refrigerator that stored fruit well, so I never ate it. Then I got a new refrigerator but burnt out on eating fruit quickly. I started eating dried fruit though, and I like that, even though it's expensive. I'm considering getting a fruit dehydrator. I don't think I'd ever get sick of eating dried fruit occasionally, it's practically like candy.

by Anonymousreply 1910/12/2012

My sister convinced me to do things like Granny did them, and don't "stock up" or over buy on fresh fruits & veggies. You go to the store more often, but if you have the discipline not to impulse buy, just get enough to last you for a 3-4 days.Since it's getting cooler outside, you won't have to worry about fruit ripening too quickly and spoiling fast.

BTW: Dried fruit is super high in sugar. Must fruit is. And when you digest it, it is sugar regardless of the source. You need to walk away from too much sugar and that incudes sugar contained in fruit. Stuff like grapes and raisins, figs and dates and pears, all loaded with sugar.

Sugar isn't bad for yu in moderation, but your body quickly becomes addicted to carbs and sugars and craves them. To get away from that grab some protein instead. A teaspoon full of peanut butter or almond butter, or a handful of almonds is better for you.

by Anonymousreply 2010/12/2012

R9 That's not true about soy.

R11 Farming doesn't produce transgenic crops.

by Anonymousreply 2110/12/2012

R11 that's not genetically modified in the way the current food industry is modifying foods and you know it. Farming and naturally improving the crops over generations is not the same as inserting weed killer and bug repellent into the DNA of food products.

OP, if you're concerned about GMOs, check the labels on corn and soy products. If it specifically says No GMOs, there are no GMOs. If it says nothing, then it usually has it. Organic doesn't mean no GMOs; they're totally different classifications.

by Anonymousreply 2210/12/2012

All these people who think it';s safer to grow your own? Next time you buy a packet of seeds check out the fact some are already tampered with before yu ever plant them.

by Anonymousreply 2310/12/2012

Well it's true that how soy is processed can cause problems. I remember when they announced many brands of soy-burgers had something wrong with them. I was eating Burger King's veggie burgers at the time, and it was one of the brands, so I stopped. I'm sure most soy if fine though. I'm a lazy vegetarian who never prepares meat (or meat substitutes) at all for myself, but I will eat it if others do and it'll just go to waste.

by Anonymousreply 2410/12/2012

isn't it correct to say

I eat pretty heathily (not pretty healthy)

by Anonymousreply 2510/12/2012

Avoid stuff grown in the path of the Gulf Stream. In a few years, you'll see why.

by Anonymousreply 2610/12/2012

[quote]Excess estrogen causes breast cancer as well as other issues.

"other issues" = moobs, tinymeat, and no sex drive in men

by Anonymousreply 2710/12/2012


Dried fruit isn't like candy, it is candy. Very high sugar content in most dried fruit.

by Anonymousreply 2810/12/2012

OP, R11 is exactly right, and all the MARY!s claiming ingestion of soy protein will turn you into a girl are equally hysterical. You seem to be doing reasonably well for someone not well-versed in nutrition. Lean meats and lots of fruits and veggies are what most nutritionists would suggest, and most rational, non-food-Nazi nutritionists will tell you there is nothing wrong with an occasional (emphasis on OCCASIONAL) unhealthy goody such as a cheeseburger.

There is no proof what-so-fucking-ever that GMOs cause *any* sort of harm, and the arguments that "we don't yet have enough long-term data to analyze the issue" are growing increasingly faulty given that GMOs have been around for 20-plus years now. Keep in mind that these were the same people who were convinced, CONVINCED, that Sweet 'n Low would give you cancer until ... well, NO ONE actually CAUGHT cancer from ingesting saccharin, so all those hypothetical analyses using rats as test subjects were bunk, and finally the USDA had to admit that saccharin, in fact, has no detrimental health effects at all.

by Anonymousreply 2910/12/2012

R29, look up the obesity rate of America in 1992 and compare it to now. Not scientific proof, but a pretty good litmus test. It doesn't have to cause cancer to be harmful.

And the reason there's no scientific proof is that the FDA is in the pocket of the food industry. A former Monsanto exec and lobbyist is head of the FDA. You think they're going to do what's best for the American people and study GMOs, or are they going to keep their friends and colleagues in the food industry happy? This is the same industry that bought Congress and declared ketchup a vegetable.

If there's nothing to hide in GMOs, why does the food industry insist on hiding it? Label products and let the consumers decide.

by Anonymousreply 3010/12/2012

R29, there's no proof because it hasn't been studied.

by Anonymousreply 3110/13/2012

Watch the salt and sugar and avoid processed foods. Otherwise - everything in moderation. You'll be fine.

by Anonymousreply 3210/13/2012

What are Monsanto shills doing on Datalounge? Shouldn't you be out harassing farmers or something?

by Anonymousreply 3310/13/2012

[quote]We've been genetically modifying food since the Neolithic era. It's called farming.

Correct. All of your prized "organic heritage" foods barely resemble what is found in nature. That goes for animals too.

Everything has been selectively bred for human benefit.

GM foods just speed up the process.

The primary GM benefits are pest resistance and drought resistance. Using less water and fewer pesticides to grow food is a good thing.

by Anonymousreply 3410/13/2012

r21 is an idiot with the soy industrial complex.

Soy is bad for you.

Only fermented soy (soy sauce) is not.

by Anonymousreply 3510/13/2012

I follow the advice of the Union for Concerned Scientists, among others. The reality is that much of the food being sold and consumed in the U.S. is substandard.

There are certain foods that I only buy when they're organic: apples, berries of any kind (impossible to clean pesticides and other chemicals out of all those tiny crevices), chicken (supermarket chicken is a chemical bomb), eggs, butter and other dairy products, and root vegetables. I live in a border state and I don't buy food that comes in from Mexico because they use human excrement as fertilizer.

I only eat beef that has been grass fed and grass finished; see the link for my reasons. At one time the only red meat I ate was buffalo, but many of those herds have also been contaminated. When I crave red meat, I eat it.

I've read a number of articles that claim soy is only healthy for human consumption after it has been fermented. I'm not a scientist so I don't know, but it's easy enough not to eat soy products. I prefer to err on the side of safety.

I feel the same way about GMO. Secrecy on the part of the chemical companies like Monsanto and major agribusinesses makes me very leery, along with the fact that many countries won't allow GMO crops to be sold within their borders. I'd rather be safe than sorry.

Farmers say GMO is a money maker for Monsanto in other ways. The seeds from the current crop can't be used to plant the following year, so farmers have to buy new seed for every planting.

I don't drink soft drinks or eat processed foods. I do all of my own baking. If I want a cheeseburger, there are some good restaurants where I live that make healthy food. There's a nearby farmers market that features organic food. We also have a great local food coop.

I'm getting older and all of my friends use a variety of meds every day. All I ever take is an occasional aspirin, so I figure I'm doing something right.

by Anonymousreply 3610/13/2012

[quote]Radishes and Leeks. That's it. The rest will kill you.

Make sure the leeks don't come from a state of country whose name ends with a vowel.

by Anonymousreply 3710/13/2012

Diet killers:

[bold]Diet Soda[/bold]

Soda drinking habits are one of the leading causes of increased risk of obesity. Even though choosing a can of diet soda over regular soda will significantly decrease the number of calories you intake for the individual serving, the choice may not cut down calories in the long run. Researchers for the journal Obesity found each can of diet soda a person drinks daily increased a person's risk of obesity by 41 percent.

[bold]Fat-Free Cookies[/bold]

Much like drinking diet soda instead of regular soda, eating fat-free cookies in lieu of traditional cookies is unlikely to help your diet goals as much as you may believe.

Fat-free cookies have less fat than regular cookies or sweets, but they usually pack a comparable number of calories and are less likely to satisfy your cravings. Eating fat-free cookies could be beneficial to your needs, but you have to be sure to keep an eye on your calorie intake.

[bold]Artificial Sweeteners[/bold]

One common factor in both diet soda and fat-free cookies is the replacement of sugar with artificial sweeteners. The decision to replace sugar with low-calorie sweeteners may save calories in a single serving, but it often leads to an increased caloric intake in the long-term due to its inability to satisfy cravings like sugar can.


Smoothies, although packed with fruit and generally healthy, may pack on more calories than you believe.

Some 12-oz smoothies can cost you 350 to 400 calories and lots of sugar, while a 12-oz can of regular soda will typically cost you 140 calories and a similar amount of sugar. Yes, you'll be getting essential fruits and vitamins rather than empty calories, but it's best to use the smoothie as a meal replacement rather than as an addition to a meal.

by Anonymousreply 3810/13/2012

Even more diet-killers:


Much like fruit smoothies, fruit juices provide you an abundance of benefits, but the calories and sugars will sneak up on you if you're drinking too much of it. A glass of orange juice or apple juice for breakfast is a great idea, but glasses with every meal of the day may surprise you with more calories and sugars than you would have guessed.

[bold]Breakfast Bars[/bold]

Those popular granola and breakfast bars you eat on the way to work or as little snacks throughout the day often have sneaky quantities of sugar. Some provide protein to satisfy your hunger and are lower in fat or sugar, but others are mostly empty calories with an abundance of sugar.

by Anonymousreply 3910/13/2012

OP, don't focus on what you shouldn't eat. Try building a healthy diet from the ground up.

You might start with the DASH diet plan. Developed by the National Institue of Health, DASH stands for Dietary Approaches to Stopping Hypertension. Though it's proven effective for that purpose, it's also an all-around healthy diet and was rated the #1 diet by nutritionists and disease specialists in US News and World report.

If you follow it starting when you're young, you have vastly greater odds of enjoying a healthy middle age and eldergay-dom.

by Anonymousreply 4010/13/2012

And here's the Environmental Working Group's list of the "Dirty Dozen" foods with the MOST pesticide residues and the "Clean 15" foods with the least.

Obviously, you want to minimize your consumption of non-organic "Dirty Dozen" foods. Definitely eat them, just make sure you get the organic versions. The Clean 15, however, are usually fine to buy in the non-organic version.

by Anonymousreply 4110/13/2012

[quote]For a long time I didn't have a refrigerator that stored fruit well, so I never ate it.

Fruit doesn't have to be kept in the fridge.

by Anonymousreply 4210/13/2012

Eating is pretty much bad for you. Weigh your options, OP...

by Anonymousreply 4310/13/2012

Why Low-Fat Caused The Obesity Epidemic

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