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The Vice Presidential Debate

Joe "Amtrak Train" Biden vs Ryan "P90X" Ryan. For one night ONLY!

by Anonymousreply 51710/19/2012

Josh Marshall October 11, 2012, 5:38 PM

The Romney/Ryan camp has apparently insisted that Ryan be referred to as "Mr." during the debate rather than "Congressman." So Biden — presumably he's going by "Vice President" rather than like "Doc Biden" or something — has to refer to Ryan as "Mr. Ryan." Presumably this is because Congress is generally unpopular and they want to seem like outsiders. But isn't this exactly the kind of thing that makes you seem juvenile when someone leaks this on you? Good idea? Hard to figure.

by Anonymousreply 110/11/2012

I hope Biden got the memo & "accidentally" refers to him as "Congressman" all night.

by Anonymousreply 210/11/2012

Even better, Ryan refers to Biden as "Mr. Vice President" and Biden replies with an "Aw, shucks, you can call me Joe".

by Anonymousreply 310/11/2012

r1 I was going to suggest that too. What will the Ryan people do, issue a complaining press release?

by Anonymousreply 410/11/2012

Ryan and Romney have to be two of the biggest pussies to ever run for Pres/VP.

Can you imagine if they did get into office? They're both so delicate they would have tons of requirements for the press and everyone else on how to deal with them.

They should be embarrassed but they're too self-righteous for that to sink in.

The fact that 90 percent of Mitt's TV appearances have been on Fox is another indication of how fragile they are.

There are so many reasons why these guys are a joke. They have no business running for the highest offices in the country - yet, America has them running neck-to-neck with Obama. It's maddening.

by Anonymousreply 510/11/2012

Oh lord, CNN has brought out their usual "undecided" voter group for instant polling. Are these the same people every election?

by Anonymousreply 610/11/2012

Fuck CNN and their right wing biased bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 710/11/2012

Sarah Palin's very first words at the 2008 debate: "Can I call you Joe?"

by Anonymousreply 810/11/2012

Post funny crap here, bitches! I just can't stand to watch. In return I'll be giving you updates on Househunters!

by Anonymousreply 910/11/2012

Palin's still being stupid - from ThinkProgress:

[quote]On Fox just now, Sarah Palin tells O'Reilly there are some hilarious "antidotes" about the '08 VP debate in her book.

by Anonymousreply 1010/11/2012

CNN had a taped interview with Ryan and he was asked about fact-checking some of the things he said. Paraphrasing, he said something like that if people are going to call him a liar, he's going to fight back and also suggested that fact-checking has a political (read: liberal) bias.

by Anonymousreply 1110/11/2012

Fight back my ass, he can't defend the shit that comes out of his and Romney's mouths. All he can do is continue to lie about it.

by Anonymousreply 1210/11/2012

[quote]fact-checking has a political (read: liberal) bias

Those damn liberals and their pesky "facts"!

by Anonymousreply 1310/11/2012

It's gonna be slow cuz we'z in the prime time.

by Anonymousreply 1410/11/2012

Waiting for Joe to kick Paul Ryan's ass.

by Anonymousreply 1510/11/2012

I'm nervous! Go Joe!

by Anonymousreply 1610/11/2012

Dr. Jill looked nice in black. Mrs. Ryan was wearing some fluorescent pink number.

by Anonymousreply 1710/11/2012

Well time to watch Project Runway. I'm WAY too nervous to watch the debate, but I hope that Joe kicks Lyin' Ryan's ass out of the building.

by Anonymousreply 1810/11/2012

Joe gets a bum rap. He is a great fighter and an old hand. He can break him.

by Anonymousreply 1910/11/2012

She called him congressman

by Anonymousreply 2010/11/2012

Hold me, Daddy! I'm too scared to watch!

by Anonymousreply 2110/11/2012

Biden needs to mention the GOP defunding embassy security.

by Anonymousreply 2210/11/2012

[quote]There will be nine segments to this debate.

And there are nine segments to that ham. Goddamn. I'll bet there's enough room in my purse to take at least four of them with me.

by Anonymousreply 2310/11/2012

Repubs wouldn't fund more security for embassies. Say it, Joe.

by Anonymousreply 2410/11/2012

YES, R22....exactly

by Anonymousreply 2510/11/2012

I'm so nervous watching this!!

by Anonymousreply 2610/11/2012

Joe sounded too political. He better mention the defunding.

by Anonymousreply 2710/11/2012

He's pure evil, but man does Paul Ryan have some purty eyes.

by Anonymousreply 2810/11/2012


by Anonymousreply 2910/11/2012

Joe's already laughing!

by Anonymousreply 3010/11/2012

Biden wants at him

by Anonymousreply 3110/11/2012


by Anonymousreply 3210/11/2012


by Anonymousreply 3310/11/2012

Biden does have a great smile, that is an advantage over him. Ryan smiles just as snarky as Romney.

by Anonymousreply 3410/11/2012

He mentioned the cut in embassy security funding!

by Anonymousreply 3510/11/2012

Go Joe...those fuckers defunded embassy security. Tell 'em!

by Anonymousreply 3610/11/2012

Joe's on the attack.

by Anonymousreply 3710/11/2012



by Anonymousreply 3810/11/2012

That's a bunch of malarkey!


by Anonymousreply 3910/11/2012

Is Radditz a moderator or does she think she's in the press corp right now?

by Anonymousreply 4010/11/2012

Ryan is getting lost.

by Anonymousreply 4110/11/2012

OMG! A water sports question!

by Anonymousreply 4210/11/2012

Is it me or is Ryan sweating?

by Anonymousreply 4310/11/2012

[quote]Biden wants at him

And I want at that pudding. Is it banana? Or butterscotch? I don't care. Ahh, banana. Just like the kind my Gamma used to make off the back of the Nilla Wafer box.

by Anonymousreply 4410/11/2012

Ryan is all talk, and full of bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 4510/11/2012

Joe's doing better than Ryan.

Ryan is in over his head.

by Anonymousreply 4610/11/2012

Could Ryan not find a larger (Made-in-China) flagpin?

by Anonymousreply 4710/11/2012

Death to Paul Ryan!

by Anonymousreply 4810/11/2012

Ryan is just not ready...

by Anonymousreply 4910/11/2012

Ryan is definitely losing so far.

by Anonymousreply 5010/11/2012

"I'd like to move to Iran."

You may have more rights there than here, Martha, if Romney gets elected.

by Anonymousreply 5110/11/2012

OMG OMG, keep it coming guys!

Househunters is over but Selling NY is on and is fabulous Real estate porn this week. One apt has a living room so big is has 15 windows overlooking 3 different sides.

by Anonymousreply 5210/11/2012

Biden is practically laughing at Ryan's comments.

by Anonymousreply 5310/11/2012

Saudi claim is a LIE. Ryan's a jackass.

Saudis want to go after Iran. This is the "Iraqis throwing babies out of incubators" all over again.

by Anonymousreply 5410/11/2012

Ryan looks nervous

by Anonymousreply 5510/11/2012

LOL, R42

by Anonymousreply 5610/11/2012

Joe got this!

by Anonymousreply 5710/11/2012

These two guys have the worse poker faces ever.

I'll have to DVR the rest of this and enjoy it later.

by Anonymousreply 5810/11/2012

Biden be whipping the bejabbers out of that Ryan rascal!

by Anonymousreply 5910/11/2012

I don't care what some of you bitches think, I love Candy.

by Anonymousreply 6010/11/2012

Go get him Joe!

by Anonymousreply 6110/11/2012

Joe's chuckling might play against him, cool it Joe.

by Anonymousreply 6210/11/2012

I LOVE Martha!!!

by Anonymousreply 6310/11/2012

Oh snap! She called him "Congressman" again.

Oh for fuck sake, enough with Americans having their heads up Israel/Bibi's ass!

by Anonymousreply 6410/11/2012

Ryan is freaking out.

by Anonymousreply 6510/11/2012

It's fairly obvious from those workout pics that Ryan was never on steroids so we won't get to see roid rage.

by Anonymousreply 6610/11/2012

Ryan looks like he wants to walk out again.

by Anonymousreply 6710/11/2012

Do we like Martha so far?

by Anonymousreply 6810/11/2012

Candy Crowley troll. Talk about TEDIOUS.

by Anonymousreply 6910/11/2012

Joe, PLEASE correct Ryan for still referring to "the Ayatollahs," plural. THERE IS ONLY ONE!

by Anonymousreply 7010/11/2012

"Ryan, you ignorant slut ... "

by Anonymousreply 7110/11/2012

Spinning the centrifuges faster?

by Anonymousreply 7210/11/2012

I suspect Joe is DYING to say the word "bullshit."

by Anonymousreply 7310/11/2012

Biden is DOMINATING this. He's making Martha look like Jim Lehrer. "Facts matter, Martha!"

He's got this. Ryan looks like a child.

by Anonymousreply 7410/11/2012

Maddow would have kicked ass as a moderator.

by Anonymousreply 7510/11/2012


by Anonymousreply 7610/11/2012

thnak god for Biden.

by Anonymousreply 7710/11/2012

I feel like I'm watching a wise elder debating a 16 year old boy.

by Anonymousreply 7810/11/2012

Biden's doing a great job, but only a few things might keep him from having a decisive victory tonight:

1. His grinning and laughing at Paul Ryan

2. Calling Prime Minister Netanyahu "Bibi," and never "Prime Minister Netanyahu" or "The Prime Minister of Israel"

by Anonymousreply 7910/11/2012

Thank you, Martha, for starting with foreign policy. Ryan looks like an IDIOT talking about this topic sitting next to "I've known Bibi for 30 years" Biden.

by Anonymousreply 8010/11/2012

Martha is getting on my nerves

by Anonymousreply 8110/11/2012

Barack, are you taking notes?

by Anonymousreply 8210/11/2012

I love Biden's giggling, kinda like me!!! Ryan has really thin lips, he is so cute when he takes a sip of water and flushes it around. I wonder if his hole is really hairy?

by Anonymousreply 8310/11/2012

On Twitter "Eddie Munster" is trending

by Anonymousreply 8410/11/2012


by Anonymousreply 8510/11/2012

This is like watching your big sister egg your favorite crazy uncle into beefing with your goob brother-in-law at Thanksgiving - I can never predict how these things play in the media but I'm enjoying the hell out of it

by Anonymousreply 8610/11/2012

Ryan has that scared smile you get when you know the teacher's humiliating you in front of the class.

by Anonymousreply 8710/11/2012

Joe: "Mr. Romney changes his mind do much, I could be wrong."


by Anonymousreply 8810/11/2012

47% - Yay Joe!

by Anonymousreply 8910/11/2012


I just jizzed!

by Anonymousreply 9010/11/2012

YES! Finally a reference to the 47%!

by Anonymousreply 9110/11/2012

Joe brings up the 47% and Romney's taxes!

by Anonymousreply 9210/11/2012

that double patty melt is coming up on me

by Anonymousreply 9310/11/2012

Was watching the Current TV coverage because they had a twitter feed going but evidently they are only showing the crazy ass repug tweets. I'm watching Rise of the Dead now and reading the posts here. A lot less nerve wracking.

by Anonymousreply 9410/11/2012

Thought Biden was gonna curse for a second there.

by Anonymousreply 9510/11/2012

Preach, Joe! Preach!

by Anonymousreply 9610/11/2012

Biden's going for the jugular.

by Anonymousreply 9710/11/2012

Joe is older enough to pull off the laughter bit.

by Anonymousreply 9810/11/2012

Joe's on fire!

by Anonymousreply 9910/11/2012

What's Candy up to? She must be starving!

by Anonymousreply 10010/11/2012

Go JOE!!

by Anonymousreply 10110/11/2012

"Bibi" is the "Bobby DeNiro" of foreign policy discussion

by Anonymousreply 10210/11/2012

This sounds great!

And by the way the CORE agent finally got the really odd artsy apt sold after reducing it by $1 Million! Go Tom!

by Anonymousreply 10310/11/2012

Raddatz is on his side, but Ryan is scared of Biden.

Biden is crushing him.

by Anonymousreply 10410/11/2012

Is Ryan starting to breathe hard and gulp?

That's always a sign of him getting upset.

by Anonymousreply 10510/11/2012

Biden says he has known Netanyahu for 30 years. They are friends/acquaintances. He can call him Bibi.

by Anonymousreply 10610/11/2012

Damned if Ryan don't look like Smeagal...some Gollum shit up in here.

by Anonymousreply 10710/11/2012

For an old dude, Biden certainly looks like he appreciates the value of .gif-ready debate moments

by Anonymousreply 10810/11/2012

Ryan is not able to keep up. His little tales are quaint and heartwarming and nonsensical.

by Anonymousreply 10910/11/2012

Only a Republican would say that unemployment going down means we're heading in the wrong direction.

by Anonymousreply 11010/11/2012

Get back on Twitter and post some shit then R94.

by Anonymousreply 11110/11/2012


by Anonymousreply 11210/11/2012

from Patton Oswalt's twitter:

"Ryan is a nervous Walmart manager. Biden is an irate customer with the receipt, the warranty & he's friends w/ the store owner."

by Anonymousreply 11310/11/2012

Ryan keeps drinking water, a sign that he's very nervous. I agree that Paul Ryan is way in over his head.

by Anonymousreply 11410/11/2012

Did Joe bring up the embassy?

by Anonymousreply 11510/11/2012

[quote]2. Calling Prime Minister Netanyahu "Bibi," and never "Prime Minister Netanyahu" or "The Prime Minister of Israel"

His buddies call him "Bibi" and frankly, he's a corrupt piece of shit who along with AIPAC and the neo cons want more American kids to die along with countless civilians.

He deserves no respect for trying to drag us into another war.

by Anonymousreply 11610/11/2012

Sanpaku eyes! Sampaku eyes!

by Anonymousreply 11710/11/2012

Ryan's grin is so forced.

by Anonymousreply 11810/11/2012

"Stop talking about how you care about people. Show me something!!!!!"

by Anonymousreply 11910/11/2012

[quote]This is like watching your big sister egg your favorite crazy uncle into beefing with your goob brother-in-law at Thanksgiving

Eggs. What I wouldn't GIVE for a tray of deviled eggs. Yellow whipped goodness surrounded by pure white yummyness.

Thanksgiving. Is that cranberry stuffing I see? It's still in the can? Doesn't matter. I have a letter opener and it's never failed me before.

by Anonymousreply 12010/11/2012


by Anonymousreply 12110/11/2012

You know Joe has a big one. That grin says it all.

by Anonymousreply 12210/11/2012

This is thrilling.

by Anonymousreply 12310/11/2012

It's rictus, R118.

Rictus Ryan.

by Anonymousreply 12410/11/2012

Stimulus. I fucking LOVE this debate!

by Anonymousreply 12510/11/2012

Beau Biden said Dad works so hard even does the laundry!!! Yea right

by Anonymousreply 12610/11/2012

He borrowed Romney's rictus.

by Anonymousreply 12710/11/2012

Hacktastic Martha Raddutsz and Paul Ryan are claiming "Social Security is going broke!" WHICH IS SIMPLY NOT TRUE! We pay into it EVERY WEEK so it NEVER GOES BROKE!

Where do people get off claiming these LIES!

by Anonymousreply 12810/11/2012

I'm glad Ryan is a weak debater, in case he tries to run for the top job in '16 or '20.

by Anonymousreply 12910/11/2012

Biden is crushing Ryan. Ryan looks like a scared cockroach.

by Anonymousreply 13010/11/2012

[quote]2. Calling Prime Minister Netanyahu "Bibi," and never "Prime Minister Netanyahu" or "The Prime Minister of Israel"

No one gives a fuck about Israel except Bibi and right wing nut jobs who weren't going to vote for Obama anyway.

Why the fuck do you care about a foreign country?

by Anonymousreply 13110/11/2012

Biden is chortling at Ryan.

by Anonymousreply 13210/11/2012

I wish Joe would stop laughing. He's making me nervous.

by Anonymousreply 13310/11/2012

I fucking love Joe, but he has to stop laughing even with the preposterous bullshit coming out of this little douchebag

by Anonymousreply 13410/11/2012

I loved when Ryan tried to zing Biden about his gaffs and Joe told him he meant everything he said, just like Romney (47%).

by Anonymousreply 13510/11/2012

Oh, good, let's talk about health care with Paul Ryan.

"I heard that death panel argument from Sarah Palin"

by Anonymousreply 13610/11/2012


by Anonymousreply 13710/11/2012

Hey, R126, DataLounge is liberal space. Get the fuck off this board.

by Anonymousreply 13810/11/2012

This is more entertaining than every RuPaul's Drag Race reading challenge put together

by Anonymousreply 13910/11/2012

I love Candy.

by Anonymousreply 14010/11/2012

Nice comparison there to Sarah Palin. Go Joe.

by Anonymousreply 14110/11/2012

Obamacare works!

by Anonymousreply 14210/11/2012

Ryan's face is getting all red.

by Anonymousreply 14310/11/2012

Ryan is dying!

by Anonymousreply 14410/11/2012

Yes. HE WENT THERE. "I heard this death panel bullshit from Palin." !!!!

by Anonymousreply 14510/11/2012

Dammit, now I wish I was selected to moderate the Vice Presidential debate instead. It's proving to be so good it HAS to be fattening :(

by Anonymousreply 14610/11/2012


by Anonymousreply 14710/11/2012

I'm out of the country and have a horrible internet connection that prevents streaming, so your posts are all I have to go on.

You're making me so happy, but if I read tomorrow about how Ryan kicked Joe's ass, there will be Hell to pay.

by Anonymousreply 14810/11/2012

Betcha Joe has a throbbin' hard-on right now.

by Anonymousreply 14910/11/2012

Ryan is a robot with a script.

by Anonymousreply 15010/11/2012

I now understand why Biden's had two aneurysms. I am seriously afraid he's gonna pop a vein right in front of me on national television.

Biden needs to laugh a little less when the camera isn't on him. And Ryan looks like an elementary school teacher, who does porn.

Got to hand it to him. Ryan is doing his best to flog what is clearly a very dead horse.

by Anonymousreply 15110/11/2012

Finish him, Joe!

by Anonymousreply 15210/11/2012

Winner: Biden.

by Anonymousreply 15310/11/2012

OMG daddy Joe, you can fuck me anytime... you're the man!

by Anonymousreply 15410/11/2012

The Candy Crowley posts are very tired.

by Anonymousreply 15510/11/2012

Biden's laugh is ripping Romney/Ryan's mask off. Go Biden!

by Anonymousreply 15610/11/2012

Biden is crushing Ryan. Biden has gravitas speaking about Medicare.

by Anonymousreply 15710/11/2012

Oh lordy, the Palin mention! Two alternate-universe LA Fitness managers in a pod.

by Anonymousreply 15810/11/2012

Please, Joe. Stop laughing.

by Anonymousreply 15910/11/2012

Everybody knew Biden would laugh. Look at Ryan, he looks like a scared Little Rascal.

by Anonymousreply 16010/11/2012

So many inaccuracies from Ryan's lips.

by Anonymousreply 16110/11/2012

Biden's grinning and interrupting are annoying. Sorry, they just are.

by Anonymousreply 16210/11/2012 thing Joe Biden can pull off is the grandfatherly routine...

Loved when Paul Ryan tried to get Joe to stop interrupting and Joe Biden snapped back, "Well I wouldn't if you weren't takin' all 4 minutes!"

by Anonymousreply 16310/11/2012

I absolutely love Joe Biden's WTF face when Ryan said 100% coverage for people who can't afford to make up the medicare premium difference.

by Anonymousreply 16410/11/2012

Damn, can't stop watching this. Hope Obama is taking notes.

by Anonymousreply 16510/11/2012

Ah, that magical moment when you break into peals of contemptuous laughter at the exact same time as the VP

by Anonymousreply 16610/11/2012

Ryan cut or uncut?

by Anonymousreply 16710/11/2012

Did Ryan bring his mommy tonight?

by Anonymousreply 16810/11/2012

Ryan's bladder is going to explode.

by Anonymousreply 16910/11/2012

Biden is demolishing Ryan.

Raddatz is in love with Ryan, though. She's straining to make him palatable, but he's not helping.

by Anonymousreply 17010/11/2012

One heart-beat away from that lost-looking smarmy guy on the right?

No thank you.

by Anonymousreply 17110/11/2012

Keep pace with a voucher...go Joe!

by Anonymousreply 17210/11/2012

Ryan is all hot and sweaty after his PX90 workout and Biden is pumping him in the shower room.

by Anonymousreply 17310/11/2012

Do you think the media is going to declare this as a win for Biden, or is this going to be a DL-only cheerfest? I can see Chris Matthews having a meltdown proclaiming that Obama is done.

by Anonymousreply 17410/11/2012

Biden is doing well with his points but he may be undoing it with the over the top smiling and laughing. He's actually throwing his head back now.

Though if I had to listen to Ryan's bullshit, I would be smirking and laughing too.

by Anonymousreply 17510/11/2012

Grinning and interrupting were winners for Romney, weren't they?

by Anonymousreply 17610/11/2012

Thanks Martha...Lyin' Ryan supported Bush's plan.

by Anonymousreply 17710/11/2012

Is Ryan a closet case....? He is hiding something big.

by Anonymousreply 17810/11/2012

Ryan can't relax and get rid of that red face. His blood pressure must be skyrocketing. Where's your PXfucking90 now, boyo?

Joe's crushing it.

by Anonymousreply 17910/11/2012

Ryan's lips and eyes are turning red.

by Anonymousreply 18010/11/2012

I actually like it that Biden interrupts Ryan. You can't let these assholes get away with their lies, you have to speak up.

by Anonymousreply 18110/11/2012

Joe needs to stop with the laughing. I'm reading on other websites that it's not making him look good.

by Anonymousreply 18210/11/2012

What R175 said.

Haven't we all been doing that?

by Anonymousreply 18310/11/2012

[quote]Ryan is doing his best to flog what is clearly a very dead horse.

Horse. Never tried it but I always wanted to. I'll bet it'd look just like that roast beef over there at the end of the table. Marbled, juicy and pink in the center. You can cut it with a fork. Any forks? No? That's what teeth are for.

by Anonymousreply 18410/11/2012

Repugs are probably regretting pressuring Romney to pick far-right Ryan.

by Anonymousreply 18510/11/2012

let Biden laugh. he's also showing extreme seriousness when he needs to but he's not being a creep like Ryan is.

by Anonymousreply 18610/11/2012

The Right is furious over the way Biden is acting towards Ryan.

by Anonymousreply 18710/11/2012

Joe's smiling is indeed a bit annoying but he can get away with it because he's being the smart elder who knows the whippersnapper needs to wise up.

by Anonymousreply 18810/11/2012

Fuck these people R182... they loved it when Mitt Romney did it... they said he looked presidential. Now that Joe is doing it, they hate it? FUCK THEM!!!

by Anonymousreply 18910/11/2012

You have to ridicule Ryan. He's young and green and foolish. Biden doing that to him cements that in the public's mind.

by Anonymousreply 19010/11/2012

Fuck off obamabots - Ryan is amazing and he is meticulously dissecting the lib bullshit Biden is trying to sell the American public.

by Anonymousreply 19110/11/2012

I like the way you think, R173

by Anonymousreply 19210/11/2012

Bill Maher just posted this on his FB page:

"Hello 9-1-1? There's an old man beating a child on my tv."

by Anonymousreply 19310/11/2012

Fox has already declared Ryan the victor.

by Anonymousreply 19410/11/2012

Good, R187!

by Anonymousreply 19510/11/2012

Just noticed "malarkey" and "Eddie Munster" are trending.

by Anonymousreply 19610/11/2012

Joe is wiping the floor with this boy.

by Anonymousreply 19710/11/2012

I would not interrupt someone who was speaking, but I'm not running for office against a sniveling, lying opponent.

Joe can barge in when he needs to.

by Anonymousreply 19810/11/2012

On Intrade, stock in Obama is up about 3% since the VP debate began.

by Anonymousreply 19910/11/2012

Go, Martha. "Do you have the specifics"?

by Anonymousreply 20010/11/2012

Are we watching the same debate? Biden is an obnoxious, rude asshole.

by Anonymousreply 20110/11/2012

Still working on the specifics....

Good answer Lyin' !

What an evader...

by Anonymousreply 20210/11/2012

R191 whatever you are smoking you should stop now and get help.

by Anonymousreply 20310/11/2012

Moderator: Ryan, do you have the specifics to your tax plan?

Ryan: Have I ever shown you a picture of my dog?

by Anonymousreply 20410/11/2012

Martha just nailed Ryan.

Biden: "Can I translate?"

by Anonymousreply 20510/11/2012

Tweet from Bill Maher

[quote]Hello 911? There s an old man beating a child on my tv

by Anonymousreply 20610/11/2012

Okay Martha just put Ryan on the spot "no specifics again then" "Do you actually have a plan to pay for that?"

by Anonymousreply 20710/11/2012

Biden's laugh is shaming Ryan.

by Anonymousreply 20810/11/2012

The Right is upset Biden's laughing?

Fuck them. They've shoved this birth certificate bullshit and held the country hostage for years. . .let Biden mock this fool.

by Anonymousreply 20910/11/2012

There's no water left in that cup,Paul...

by Anonymousreply 21010/11/2012

Going after Romney's taxes!!

by Anonymousreply 21110/11/2012

what should I order at the CNN Grill? Something fried? Need a snack NOW

by Anonymousreply 21210/11/2012

[quote]Fuck off obamabots - Ryan is amazing and he is meticulously dissecting the lib bullshit Biden is trying to sell the American public.

Wow R191. What debate are YOU watching?

by Anonymousreply 21310/11/2012

[quote]Ryan is doing his best to flog what is clearly a very dead horse.

Holy fudge! Consuela? Check the stables right now!

by Anonymousreply 21410/11/2012

Are the dial voters on CNN really "undecided"? They are turning it up for Ryan the second he opens his mouth.

by Anonymousreply 21510/11/2012

Look at those puppy dog eyes on Paul...

Get him, Pitbull Joe!

by Anonymousreply 21610/11/2012

r206 - good one! Love Maher.

by Anonymousreply 21710/11/2012

"Oh now you're Jack Kennedy?"

Joe Biden can have me every day of the week!

by Anonymousreply 21810/11/2012

R194, is that true?

by Anonymousreply 21910/11/2012

"Oh, now you're Jack Kennedy?"

This is done.

by Anonymousreply 22010/11/2012

Ryan is double-talking.

by Anonymousreply 22110/11/2012

Fired up and ready to JOE!

by Anonymousreply 22210/11/2012

We can't afford $800 billion going to people making more than $1 million a year!

by Anonymousreply 22310/11/2012

Joe doesn't need any water-he's like a well oiled machine!

by Anonymousreply 22410/11/2012

How original, r206.

by Anonymousreply 22510/11/2012

just want to sniff Ryan's hairy hole

by Anonymousreply 22610/11/2012

97% of small businesses make less than $250,000 and would not be effected!

by Anonymousreply 22710/11/2012

Joe throwing up his hands

by Anonymousreply 22810/11/2012

Martha is forcing Ryan to account for budget.

by Anonymousreply 22910/11/2012

Wow, Biden is brutal, yet as expected a true statesman.

by Anonymousreply 23010/11/2012

forgot how much I LOVE Kentucky gravy, you know they use lard which makes it so yummy

by Anonymousreply 23110/11/2012

I turned it off when Martha and Joe were debating. This is bad form. I don't understand the screaming and yelling. It's like dad and mom fighting after a night of drunken bowling.

by Anonymousreply 23210/11/2012

Oh pencilhead is getting his ass kicked in!

by Anonymousreply 23310/11/2012

I am DYING for this bad bitch to move on to social issues and ask about the war on women

by Anonymousreply 23410/11/2012

No doubt R201 was fine with the act when Mitt performed it - except Biden is does it with facts.

by Anonymousreply 23510/11/2012

Ryan comes off like such a creepy weasel and I have to say. I'm really starting to like Biden. Now I'm sorry I missed him debating Palin 4 year ago. What a show that must've been.

by Anonymousreply 23610/11/2012

Joe hasn't been perfect, but he's mopping the floor with pretty boy. It all makes Obama's performance last week even more shameful.

by Anonymousreply 23710/11/2012

What is wrong with Martha Radditz's face? She is one ugly chick, despite her great hair.

by Anonymousreply 23810/11/2012

Ryan is a lying fucking dweeb! I was to throw my television out the window! He's a shape-shifter!

by Anonymousreply 23910/11/2012

Oh,Jeez,there's goes Lyin' Ryan with the 'heart felt' stories again...

by Anonymousreply 24010/11/2012

I told you guys not to mock Joe Biden. People discount him but he is salt of the earth and an OLD, OLD hand at this game and government.

I knew he was the perfect VP pick in 08 when people moaned and I knew he would do this tonight. He is the perfect foil for Obama's cooler head.

by Anonymousreply 24110/11/2012

R215, they're attention whores.

by Anonymousreply 24210/11/2012

Raddatz is a bit of a hawk. Biden schooled her when she tried to sniff about "a civilian leader"

by Anonymousreply 24310/11/2012

Rethuglicunts are tweeting about how Ryan is winning and kicking Joe's butt. The poor deludes messes are as fucked up as gay Paul.

by Anonymousreply 24410/11/2012

r234, I'd love to see them address some LGBT issues. We already know where Biden stands.

by Anonymousreply 24510/11/2012

Oh r232, you're such a tender blossom. Perhaps you can go back to your room and delicately practice flower arranging.

by Anonymousreply 24610/11/2012

re 210,

I noticed that too. He keeps trying to drink more water and there is no more water to drink

by Anonymousreply 24710/11/2012

Freeper meltdown on the DL.


by Anonymousreply 24810/11/2012

I love Joe. He won't let this asshole get away with all their bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 24910/11/2012

I think Obama will rise to the occasion now that JB has raised the bar.

by Anonymousreply 25010/11/2012

Eat my ass, Janesville scum

by Anonymousreply 25110/11/2012

Republicans are all for the singular being's responsibility to take care of themselves until it comes to the military. Am I the only one that sees an oxymoron for personal responsibility between that and their view upon the "Gay agenda?"

by Anonymousreply 25210/11/2012

Lyin' Ryan makes me want to throw a brick at the television. That stupid grin, those vacuous eyes, that silly brain with distorted reality.

by Anonymousreply 25310/11/2012

Now Ryan's getting tangled in the weeds.


by Anonymousreply 25410/11/2012

R236, it's on youtube. You'll love her calling him "O' Biden" several times.

by Anonymousreply 25510/11/2012

omg...the one of my best friends line....

one of my best friends is black... one of my best friends is gay... one of my best friends is fighting in afghanistan...

same ignorance

by Anonymousreply 25610/11/2012

Joe's being better now. Less emotional. Jill must have given him the slash across the neck signal from the audience.

by Anonymousreply 25710/11/2012

"just want to sniff Ryan's hairy hole"

Right now it's probably ripe with crow and fraud, flushed out by all that water he's consumed.

by Anonymousreply 25810/11/2012

joe is getting stronger as the debate goes on...

by Anonymousreply 25910/11/2012

Martha is so desperate for more warmongering.

Unfortunately, Joe knows foreign policy better than her.

by Anonymousreply 26010/11/2012

Oh this sounds so great!!

And now Househunters International is in Kuala Lumpur with an extremely entitled Midwest family!

I hope they find the kitchen with the granite that they like.

by Anonymousreply 26110/11/2012

R238 Martha had a bad peel plus she is a heavy vodka drinker

by Anonymousreply 26210/11/2012


by Anonymousreply 26310/11/2012

Ryan is ready for a night of water sports

by Anonymousreply 26410/11/2012

[quote] People discount him but he is salt of the earth and an OLD, OLD hand at this game and government.

Salt. I always carry some. Glad I did because these mashed taters need something. I don't care if that gravy has a skin on it, just dig right through and I'm good to go.

by Anonymousreply 26510/11/2012

"Joe hasn't been perfect, but he's mopping the floor with pretty boy."

Pretty? I know you're masturbating over Joe's performance but some of your vaseline must have gotten on the Paul Ryan's side of your tv screen.

by Anonymousreply 26610/11/2012

Joe is schooling Raddatz. She keeps sniffing about "civilian leaders".

by Anonymousreply 26710/11/2012

She said "pulling out"


by Anonymousreply 26810/11/2012

R262 = Sally Quinn

by Anonymousreply 26910/11/2012

"That's what we call Fighting Season." MARY!!

by Anonymousreply 27010/11/2012

Did you for get to mention anyone else,Paul?

by Anonymousreply 27110/11/2012

Biden is on fire!

by Anonymousreply 27210/11/2012

Joseph Biden, have mercy on that boy.

by Anonymousreply 27310/11/2012

Martha is a professional embed, so of course the US military is never wrong.

by Anonymousreply 27410/11/2012

Oooooo, Joe got Miss Thang bobbing her head!

by Anonymousreply 27510/11/2012

Instant polling Shows Joe killing it.

by Anonymousreply 27610/11/2012

Martha has let completely lost control.

by Anonymousreply 27710/11/2012

Is Ryan doing his Black Drag Queen head bob?

by Anonymousreply 27810/11/2012

Ryan's been out of water for a while now.

I haven't noticed Joe drinking any at all.

Ryan is sitting there with Joe's full glass of cold, deliciously refreshing water and he can't drink it?

Gee that's too bad.

by Anonymousreply 27910/11/2012

Holy fuck!!!! Love Joe Biden

by Anonymousreply 28010/11/2012 is a different country

by Anonymousreply 28110/11/2012

You know Ryan has to piss.

by Anonymousreply 28210/11/2012

Thank you.

Now will this translate to the polls... at all?

by Anonymousreply 28310/11/2012

Martha is eating up all the fucking time talking about the war that she loves so much. It looks like once again, there will be no discussion of domestic social issues. DAMMIT! :(

by Anonymousreply 28410/11/2012

They don't do Joe any favors when they shoot him from the side, do they? That's quite a waddle he's sporting under his chin.

by Anonymousreply 28510/11/2012

ryan got more water...did he take joes?

by Anonymousreply 28610/11/2012

I love Joe's laugh. Be who you be Mr. Vice President. Don't listen to the twidiots. Do what you do and to hell with the bozos.

by Anonymousreply 28710/11/2012

Ryan: "We wouldn't do this, we wouldn't do that."

WTF would you do, bitch?

by Anonymousreply 28810/11/2012


by Anonymousreply 28910/11/2012

[quote]Biden is on fire!

Just like the fire crackling in that grill. I'll take sixteen of those sliders, as fast as you can whip 'em up.

by Anonymousreply 29010/11/2012

Joe spanked Martha. I know she feels like she knows everything as an embed, but OH MY GOD ALL PAUL RYAN HAS IS JOHN BOLTON'S TALKING POINTS

by Anonymousreply 29110/11/2012

Ryan's nose is growing and growing and growing as the night wears on....

by Anonymousreply 29210/11/2012

Biden 2016!

by Anonymousreply 29310/11/2012

When Joe goes on too long,it gives that lying weasel Ryan time to collect his thoughts...liars should be kept on their toes at all times

by Anonymousreply 29410/11/2012

Can't think of many things that Republicans hate more than facts.

by Anonymousreply 29510/11/2012

[quote]Ryan is sitting there with Joe's full glass of cold, deliciously refreshing water and he can't drink it?

I love you.

by Anonymousreply 29610/11/2012

"Afghans, AFGHANS!!!"

Biden's close to calling him a fucking retard.

by Anonymousreply 29710/11/2012

Tonight just reminded me that foreign policy is one of Joe Biden's strong suits...he's provided Lyin' Ryan quite the history lesson tonight.

by Anonymousreply 29810/11/2012

Joe Biden doesn't take their crap. That's what I love about him. He's mopping the floor with this little shit!

by Anonymousreply 29910/11/2012

Joe is the man! And people think Ryan is hot?

by Anonymousreply 30010/11/2012

coulda shoulda woulda

by Anonymousreply 30110/11/2012

They have a problem with the Arab Spring, yet they want to give weapons to the opposition in Syria?

Who is the opposition in Syria, Congressman?

by Anonymousreply 30210/11/2012

[quote]Now will this translate to the polls... at all?

Normally, no. But because so much attention was paid to the first debate and its outcome, there is enormous interest in this one. I wouldn't be surprised to find that it does generate a bit of a bounce for Obama.

by Anonymousreply 30310/11/2012

Ryan keeps going back to the same weak points about Syria, no depth.

by Anonymousreply 30410/11/2012

Um no r277. Your candidate SUCKS. Get lost.

by Anonymousreply 30510/11/2012

Joe is on fire and killing it.

Thank goodness!!!!

by Anonymousreply 30610/11/2012

Joe Biden is going to haul off and punch Paul Ryan.

by Anonymousreply 30710/11/2012

Biden is stunned and sickened by this inept liar/loser just like Obama was during his debate with Romney. Pres and VP know and state the facts and if people in this country weren't completly fucked up they would know they are voting in evil idiots. Some many of my co-workers are rethugs and I am so glad I am voting by absentee while I am cruising to the the carribean. It would have been sickening to be around them if Romney/Ryan get in, just like the election we lost and the one they stole. Sucked!

by Anonymousreply 30810/11/2012

Mention women and gays for fuck sake!

by Anonymousreply 30910/11/2012

Can they move on to domestic issues already, this is ridiculous.

by Anonymousreply 31010/11/2012

I love Biden's expressions especially when Ryan throws out something completely absurd. While Biden may be laughing and such, he is serious about this and there were a few moments where he looked like he could not believe the words out of Ryan's mouth.

by Anonymousreply 31110/11/2012

ohhhh yesssss abortion

by Anonymousreply 31210/11/2012

Ryan looks incredibly weak and uneducated.

by Anonymousreply 31310/11/2012

" It looks like once again, there will be no discussion of domestic social issues. "

WTF do you think Medicare and abortion are?

by Anonymousreply 31410/11/2012

What Paul Ryan is really thinking:

"I'm missing Honey Boo Boo Chile right now!"

by Anonymousreply 31510/11/2012

I could hardly take my eyes off the wattle at the beginning, R287. Not a good angle at all. He's still winning, praise baby jesus.

by Anonymousreply 31610/11/2012

Oh, Martha! This abortion /religion question is such bullshit! Did she really think this was worthwhile!?

by Anonymousreply 31710/11/2012

Martha pressed Ryan for answers, and he could never give any.

He looks like a wet-eared, scared kid and Biden looks like your dad.

by Anonymousreply 31810/11/2012

we do not care about your fucking bean

by Anonymousreply 31910/11/2012

BEAN!! Give me a break.

by Anonymousreply 32010/11/2012

ryan is going there...THAT IS YOUR OPINION jackass.

by Anonymousreply 32110/11/2012

I love you R266!

by Anonymousreply 32210/11/2012

I'd be terrified if Ryan actually became President. Too young and ignorant.

by Anonymousreply 32310/11/2012

He nick-nameed his child "Bean."

Why the fuck didn't i think of that?

by Anonymousreply 32410/11/2012

Ryan just lost the Vice Presidency.

by Anonymousreply 32510/11/2012

Look at how Ryan's approval lines among the undecided completely flatlines while he talks about his pro-life position.

by Anonymousreply 32610/11/2012

I love butter beans with lots of butter and salt pinto beans give me nasty gas

by Anonymousreply 32710/11/2012

Oh, Ryan is whining about "infringing on religious liberties". Ryan just opened himself up.

by Anonymousreply 32810/11/2012

When we went to get our sonograms, our little baby was in the shape of a bean, and we nicknamed our little daughter Bean.

Oh Ryan's gonna get it now! He just so contradicted himself on abortion.

Go Joe!

by Anonymousreply 32910/11/2012

"A Beanie Baby Story"

Starring The Lyin' Ryan Family this fall on TLC.

by Anonymousreply 33010/11/2012

Biden speaking on his views on abortion spiked on undecided voters on CNN, men and women

by Anonymousreply 33110/11/2012

re 324...i love you

by Anonymousreply 33210/11/2012

Paul giving Joe the look of love.

by Anonymousreply 33310/11/2012

Ryan keeps making his sad muppet face while Biden speaks on abortion.

by Anonymousreply 33410/11/2012

Ryan is coming of as just another off the shelf fucked up Republican.

by Anonymousreply 33510/11/2012

[quote]BEAN!! Give me a break.

Beans. Nine bean salad, green beans covered with crunchy onion topping, black bean dip! Why didn't anyone TELL me???

by Anonymousreply 33610/11/2012

Who the fuck gave that overfilled bladder more water?

by Anonymousreply 33710/11/2012

Ryan just lost the election with Martha's second abortion question.

by Anonymousreply 33810/11/2012

Ryan just called the fucking Supreme Court "Unelected Judges"!

Does he deny they are the third freaking branch of our entire government?? Unbelievable! Martha couldn't have stopped and asked about THAT!

by Anonymousreply 33910/11/2012

Can't we all agree there's no chance of Ryan children serving in the U.S. Armed Forces?

by Anonymousreply 34010/11/2012

No GLBT issues? Boooo!

by Anonymousreply 34110/11/2012

"Who the fuck gave that overfilled bladder more water?"

Joe pissed in Ryan's glass, and not just metaphorically.

by Anonymousreply 34210/11/2012

OMG Go Joe, slipping in the 47% again!

by Anonymousreply 34310/11/2012

Best photo (so far) from the debate:

by Anonymousreply 34410/11/2012

I'm so proud of Joe right now. He totally redeemed himself tonight.

by Anonymousreply 34510/11/2012

I'm assuming that T-Paw or Rob Portman would have been a better VP pick?

by Anonymousreply 34610/11/2012

Ryan just tinkled a little.

by Anonymousreply 34710/11/2012

I just passed a bean; top that Congressman Ryan!

by Anonymousreply 34810/11/2012

hillarious tweet...

@AdamHammer: My baby was in the shape of a bean and to this day, I suspect my wife may have slept w/ a Mexican - Ryan #VPDebate

by Anonymousreply 34910/11/2012

LMAO...Ryan didn't even try to address the amorphous "hero." At least Biden played along...

by Anonymousreply 35010/11/2012

"bean" is now trending lol

by Anonymousreply 35110/11/2012

Why did Martha let Ryan filibuster again?

by Anonymousreply 35210/11/2012

I think Natalie Portman would have been a better pick this point. Or even Winona Ryder.

by Anonymousreply 35310/11/2012

Love that Joe mentioned that the items which Obama proposed were voted down by the likes of Paul Ryan.

by Anonymousreply 35410/11/2012

Ryan actually has the temerity to attack Obama for not providing specifics!!????

Martha: "Congressman Ryan, do you have any specifics?"

Ryan: "Martha, is that a shiny light there?"

by Anonymousreply 35510/11/2012

Stupid last question, Martha!!

by Anonymousreply 35610/11/2012

Ryan's coming across quite well here. Sorry to say, but it's true.

by Anonymousreply 35710/11/2012

Honesty? Did Ryan just say honesty?

by Anonymousreply 35810/11/2012

Ryan sounds like Alan Alda in the "West Wing" debate episode.

by Anonymousreply 35910/11/2012

[quote]I'm assuming that T-Paw or Rob Portman would have been a better VP pick?

T-bones? I'll take twelve. And don't give me that Heinz 57 shit either. This bitch takes A-1 or nothing at all.

I lied. I'd eat them if they were smeared with dogshit.

by Anonymousreply 36010/11/2012

I love how you can take Ryan's statements as classic definitions of irony.

by Anonymousreply 36110/11/2012

Fucker isn't even answering the question on negative campaigning. He's on automatic pilot. Ugly man. And he looked embarassed when the moderator said "perhaps one day one of your children will serve". Answered my question whether Ryan served. Played with G.I. Joe as a kid. Makes him an expert on the military. Right.

by Anonymousreply 36210/11/2012

To paraphrase Ann Coulter, "Janna Ryan wants to go home with Joe Biden"

by Anonymousreply 36310/11/2012

r346, T-Paw is the world's biggest nonentity and he still probably would have been a better pick

by Anonymousreply 36410/11/2012

my comfort food is harvest soups with heavy cream, sometimes I crumble hot dog buns on top with loads of cheese

by Anonymousreply 36510/11/2012

All Ryan has is his dramatic pauses and talking points. It's not enough and I don't think anyone's going to like it, since he can't answer specifics and Biden called him out on all his slick lies. He also couldn't deny they would infringe on abortion.

by Anonymousreply 36610/11/2012

The news is good from the Huffpo -

by Anonymousreply 36710/11/2012

Now comes the bullshit analysis.

by Anonymousreply 36810/11/2012

Ryan's summation is terrible.

by Anonymousreply 36910/11/2012

Christ. Ryan's closing statement sounds like a cover letter for a resume.

by Anonymousreply 37010/11/2012

How is Obamacare a takeover of American healthcare? Isn't it more customers for insurance companies?

In all honesty, isn't Romney a job destroyer more than a job creator?

by Anonymousreply 37110/11/2012

Joe's sincerity trumps Lyin' Ryan's faux scripted platitudes any day of the week. I can't believe anyone would take Ryan's pablum with any degree of seriousness.

by Anonymousreply 37210/11/2012

Thanks r344.

by Anonymousreply 37310/11/2012

So Ryan and Courtney Love both gave their kids' the middle name of "Bean."

I'm pretty sure there's a correlation there.

by Anonymousreply 37410/11/2012

I hate my bean

by Anonymousreply 37510/11/2012

Biden by a mile.

by Anonymousreply 37610/11/2012

Wow, not a single person under than the Candy Crowley Troll finds her jokes funny.

by Anonymousreply 37710/11/2012

I wish Joe Biden would debate Mitt Romney now!

by Anonymousreply 37810/11/2012

Ryan's closing statement made him look like he was running for high school student council.

by Anonymousreply 37910/11/2012

Joe won it for me.

by Anonymousreply 38010/11/2012

Damn, Biden's sons are HOT!!

by Anonymousreply 38110/11/2012

Megalols at Ryan wiping his forehead the second the debate ended

by Anonymousreply 38210/11/2012

"On the issues that matter to people, all Biden."

--Chris Matthews

by Anonymousreply 38310/11/2012

Palin did better in her debate with Biden & that ain't saying much.

by Anonymousreply 38410/11/2012

I can't wait for the Onion's "Joe Biden" to take his victory lap. I'm thinking tomorrow we'll read about Joe celebrating in a strip club.

by Anonymousreply 38510/11/2012

Wolf Blitzer just said the debate was a draw. WTF?? Please go on his twitter feed and call him out for the moron he is.

by Anonymousreply 38610/11/2012

I wouldn't want to be the cleanup crew mopping up the urine under Ryan's podium.

by Anonymousreply 38710/11/2012

So, HONEST opinions, bitches - who do you think WON?

Let's say what we honestly thought, rather than what we hope is the case.

We need some objective analysis to know what Middle America is thinking.

by Anonymousreply 38810/11/2012

[quote]Ryan's coming across quite well here. Sorry to say, but it's true.

Not sure what debate you were watching, but no. Just no. Biden wiped the floor with this pissant little shit.

by Anonymousreply 38910/11/2012

Fox is calling Biden defensive and aggressive and Ryan as strong.

by Anonymousreply 39010/11/2012

Joe's closing statment was heartfelt; Ryan's was a TV commercial for Preparation-H.

by Anonymousreply 39110/11/2012

I didn't buy Ryan's close.

Biden wins.

by Anonymousreply 39210/11/2012

Biden had to drop out of a Presidential race for lying. Govt doesn't work for the ppl

by Anonymousreply 39310/11/2012

[quote]Ryan's coming across quite well here. Sorry to say, but it's true.

Oh honey, stop. He said nothing of substance. It was all "we wouldn't do this and we wouldn't do that and we also won't tell you what we would do."

by Anonymousreply 39410/11/2012


by Anonymousreply 39510/11/2012

We won!

by Anonymousreply 39610/11/2012

Totally, r385. But I'm also interested to see how Onion Paul Ryan punishes himself for his performance...

by Anonymousreply 39710/11/2012

"Paul Ryan embarrassed himself on Afghanistan tonight. He didn't even understand the question."

--Rachel Maddow

by Anonymousreply 39810/11/2012

[quote]So, HONEST opinions, bitches - who do you think WON?

Not even close: Biden by a mile.

And I freely admitted last week that Obama sucked for letting Shitt get away with one lie after another.

Ryan may get propped up by Faux News and by those interested in keeping this a horse race, but in all honesty, Ryan was woefully outmatched.

by Anonymousreply 39910/11/2012

CNN is calling it a draw😳.

by Anonymousreply 40010/11/2012

Biden will draw fire for his dismissive chuckles and his condescending attitude. In the final analysis, Romney's policies just don't work, especially with working class people, and most especially, women.

Biden was better with Palin, but then he had so much more to work with back then.

by Anonymousreply 40110/11/2012

CNN, what a bunch of fuckers. They're calling out Biden for his smirking, eye-rolling and interrupting. And they're saying Ryan more than held his own. With what, lies and non-answers? If anyone's on twitter, please flood them about their bias.

by Anonymousreply 40210/11/2012

Go Vote for Joe on CNN's debate poll.

He's winning 2:1 now.

by Anonymousreply 40310/11/2012

I think Biden was frustrated because it so hard to counter a liar. Romney and Ryan did nothing but lie about their stances. Ryan despite saying he was against abortion would not reply to Biden's charge that Ryan said he thought women being raped should not be allowed an abortion. I think Obama needs to lie like Romney.

by Anonymousreply 40410/11/2012

Biden gave unrefuttable facts, facts.....nothing...Zilch.

by Anonymousreply 40510/11/2012

Now you know if they attack Joe for being forceful when they slobbered all over Romney for same...

by Anonymousreply 40610/11/2012

John King just said that Dan Quayle had that awful debate and George Bush still won 40 states.

by Anonymousreply 40710/11/2012

CNN (eg. David Gergen etc.) are saying it was a draw on substance, but that Ryan won on style?


by Anonymousreply 40810/11/2012

CNN is afraid to draw their own conclusion until they hear from the other networks ... wimps!

by Anonymousreply 40910/11/2012

It energized the Democratic base - which is really important.

Ryan didn't make any huge gaffes.

So it's a win for the Dems because turnout will be a deciding factor.

And Joe won the "who would you rather have a beer with" contest.

by Anonymousreply 41010/11/2012

I didn't see it, R403.

by Anonymousreply 41110/11/2012

Right r407, the VP debate was never going to have that much influence anyway. Nothing really to get worked up about either way.

by Anonymousreply 41210/11/2012

[quote]Go Vote for Joe on CNN's debate poll.

Link, please.

by Anonymousreply 41310/11/2012

Question for CNN and Fox: How can Ryan even be considered to have won when he flat out said three Democrats supported his proposal and each of those Democrats has said they do not?

When I did high-school debate, that was a loss, kiddo.

by Anonymousreply 41410/11/2012

The CNN poll is on the bottom right of their front page.

by Anonymousreply 41510/11/2012

Need link to CNN's debate poll.

by Anonymousreply 41610/11/2012

Bottom right.

by Anonymousreply 41710/11/2012

Reince Priebus just on CNN, as dismissive as ever, saying they actually counted the number of times Biden laughed and interrupted. The CNN reporter did try to say that Ryan interrupted as well. Priebus also said that Biden didn't provide any details, especially on taxes.

by Anonymousreply 41810/11/2012

The CNN poll link. It's down the page a bit, on the right.

by Anonymousreply 41910/11/2012

R410 is right. This debate is not gonna change minds of undecided voters. What it will do, however, is bring disheartened Democrats back to the fold, and because of that, it's a win for Biden.

by Anonymousreply 42010/11/2012

Where the debate makes a difference, at least in the short term, is that we'll finally stop the bitching, moaning, handwringing, and concern-trolling from the left. They got what they wanted tonight. In that respect, this debate was a game-changer.

by Anonymousreply 42110/11/2012

On CNN's home page, try doing a search in your browser (control+F), and type in the words "Quick vote" to find the poll, where Biden is leading 66-34.

by Anonymousreply 42210/11/2012

If you don't have a Twitter, get one. It's free and easy.

Tweet and re-tweet everything pro-Biden you see.

Rethugs are trying to steamroll BS about Ryan winning.

Funny too, because all the compliments they give him are the exact criticisms everyone directed at Obama.

by Anonymousreply 42310/11/2012

How can they call out VP Joe for the exact thing that Mitt did? The only difference is that VP Joe wasn't lying.

by Anonymousreply 42410/11/2012

Chris Rock: Paul Ryan says the President is "projecting weakness around the world." Osama Bin Laden responds with silence.

by Anonymousreply 42510/11/2012

My Joe, my Joe.

by Anonymousreply 42610/11/2012

CNN will likely change their tune once the votes are up.

That's exactly what they did for the presidential debate.

by Anonymousreply 42710/11/2012

Interesting post-debate image.

by Anonymousreply 42810/11/2012


by Anonymousreply 42910/11/2012

On Twitter Freepers are asking people to tweet that Ryan won, even if they think he didn't.

Don't let the court of public opinion fuck us again.


by Anonymousreply 43010/11/2012

Why was Romney presidential and forceful but Biden was rude?

by Anonymousreply 43110/11/2012

PLEASE flood CNN with pro-Biden tweets.

by Anonymousreply 43210/11/2012

I think it's a generational thing.

Vice President wiped the floor with congrassman Ryan.

In Vice President Biden's day, that would have meant he was the winner.

Congressman Ryan participated. In his day, that would make him the winner.

by Anonymousreply 43310/11/2012

Washington Post front page has Biden winning 70%. I'm getting really ticked a cable talking heads.

Biden wiped the floor with Ryan. So what if he laughed at Ryan?

by Anonymousreply 43410/11/2012

Who do you think fared better in the vice presidential debate?

Biden 66% 2054

Ryan 34% 1059

Total votes: 3113

by Anonymousreply 43510/11/2012

Why indeed, R431.

by Anonymousreply 43610/11/2012

Liberal commentators are saying Biden kicked ass while right wing commentators are saying it was a draw.

That tells you all you need to know -- Biden succeeded in firing up Democratic voters while Ryan was forgettable at best.

by Anonymousreply 43710/11/2012


That is all.

by Anonymousreply 43810/11/2012

Unbelievable that Biden gets chastised for what Romney was praised for.

by Anonymousreply 43910/11/2012

Pretty much, R437.

Obama/Biden 2012.

by Anonymousreply 44010/11/2012

R 434

Laughing at Ryan's idiocy was really the kinder response.

by Anonymousreply 44110/11/2012

Keep voting. Joe's winning two-to-one.

by Anonymousreply 44210/11/2012

Fucking CNN. They're all but calling Ryan presidential, saying he presented himself and his position/facts better than Biden. Every time they mention Biden, everyone has to make a derogatory comment and occasionally laugh.

by Anonymousreply 44310/11/2012

I'd fuck biden, happily, I don't care how old he is.

by Anonymousreply 44410/11/2012

And, while you are at it, please vote in the CNBC poll, which the Freepers have obviously targeted because Lyin' Ryan is ahead.

by Anonymousreply 44510/11/2012

Btw I was watching NBC, and they had pretty much the same shtick as CNN: calling it a "draw." Tom Brokaw, who actually moderated the Quayle/Bentsen debate, also pointed out that Bentsen both wiped the floor with Quayle *and* brought up the same Jack Kennedy comment, but Bush/Quayle still won. (Not mentioned was that Bush was the incumbent VP and Dukakis was one of the weakest presidential candidates in Democratic history.)

by Anonymousreply 44610/11/2012

It felt like Biden was playing in the main for Ohio, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Florida.

Which is all that matters.

If you were a senior or a working class mother, you probably thought Biden won.

He's like everyone's slightly tipsy, happy drunk uncle....

A little boisterous, a little loud, a little dismissive of those who disagree, but overall a jovial old guy.

God Bless Grampa Joe.

by Anonymousreply 44710/11/2012

That's why we have to make some noise, R443.

by Anonymousreply 44810/11/2012

R201, you're a fucking moron.

by Anonymousreply 44910/11/2012

Lay off the CNN opinion vote. It's not a poll.

Calm the fuck down.

CBS News did a flash poll of undecided voters, i.e. a scientific poll which has:

Biden 50% Ryan 31% Draw 19%

That's in line with most commentators.

And the winner of the flash polls opens up his lead over the next day (thanks MSNBC!).

by Anonymousreply 45010/11/2012

One of the comments from the Guardian article (obviously from a Tory asshole, and obviously stated BEFORE the debate):

"Ha. Gaffe-o-matic vs. one of the best minds in politics. Biden won't be able to plagiarize like he did in law school or from British Labour politician Neil Kinnock. He won't dare discuss current affairs. What a loser."

Daft cunt! (as the Brits say)

by Anonymousreply 45110/11/2012

R447, Biden was playing to the adults.

by Anonymousreply 45210/11/2012

R450, you're not the boss of me.

by Anonymousreply 45310/11/2012

How was it a draw? How can Ryan claim to have one at any point? By any basis?


by Anonymousreply 45410/11/2012

Rep. Marsha Blackburn (R) of Tennessee is a cunt.

That is all.

by Anonymousreply 45510/11/2012

Did anybody hear Paul Ryan call the Supreme Court "Unelected Judges"! Really? One third of the three co-equal branches of our whole system of government is reduced to "Unelected Judges"? Wow!

by Anonymousreply 45610/11/2012

Tweet the CBS poll.

Click on the icon in the upper left corner.

by Anonymousreply 45710/11/2012

Can you imagine the Supreme Court elections?

Oh my god - the primaries!

by Anonymousreply 45810/11/2012

Where was Ryan's "substance" that everyone keeps referring to?

by Anonymousreply 45910/11/2012

[quote] if I read tomorrow about how Ryan kicked Joe's ass, there will be Hell to pay.

You'll only read that on the FReeptards' website.

by Anonymousreply 46010/11/2012

Who's the bitch on CNN 's panel?

by Anonymousreply 46110/11/2012

R456, while I agree with you on point, I must also point out that the judicial branch of our federal government does not consist solely of the Supreme Court. We have thousands of district and appellate-level federal judges in it as well, and in reality, they establish far more general law than the Supreme Court, which hears only about 75 cases per year these days.

by Anonymousreply 46210/11/2012

It was all those rambling, lying bits, R459.

by Anonymousreply 46310/11/2012

CBS poll tweeted.

Took me forever because I'm brand new to Twitter but I did it, goddammit.

Now I'm looking for more to tweet.

I consider it my version of working a phone bank.

by Anonymousreply 46410/11/2012

R459, Ryan had "substance" only in the context that he had no major gaffes, and that he was reasonably well-coached on foreign affairs. Which is not to say Biden didn't wipe the fucking floor with him, given that he was working in the Senate when Paul Ryan was LITERALLY A TODDLER.

by Anonymousreply 46510/11/2012

The President stopped on his way to wherever and said some nice things about VP Biden and his debate performance. He seems happy with it.

by Anonymousreply 46610/11/2012

Obama should be pleased, Joe just wiped the memory of his dismal performance vs. Romney. Now my President needs to step up to the next debate opportunity.

by Anonymousreply 46710/11/2012

[quote]The President stopped on his way to wherever and said some nice things about VP Biden and his debate performance. He seems happy with it.

He damn well should be. Seems happy? He should be fucking ecstatic.

by Anonymousreply 46810/11/2012

Ryan's closing was so pathetic. Speech 101- Rehearsed, cliched, and phony.

by Anonymousreply 46910/11/2012

Well you know how he is, Mr. Cool, Calm and Collected. I didn't mean to imply a lack of enthusiasm on the part of the President.

He was happy about the Biden win. He was also somewhat reserved and "presidential" about it. No surprise, he IS the President. He can't spike the ball - at least not in public.

by Anonymousreply 47010/11/2012

Sorry, R468, I didn't mean to imply anything less than enthusiasm from the President. He was happy with the job VP Biden did, but he IS the President. He can't spike the ball. His response was pleased and "presidential" at the same time.

by Anonymousreply 47110/11/2012

Beau Biden = Teh Hotnezz

by Anonymousreply 47210/11/2012

Mary Matalin is an absolute bitch, I didn't like the way she talked to the man on her left telling him to "look it up". How about she looks up CUNT in the dictionary. I'm also beginning to question CNN's polls, everyone I know thinks Biden won. Ryan is a liar and I'm glad Joe called him out on it.

by Anonymousreply 47310/11/2012

Stepping down from Air Force One, President Barack Obama praised his vice president's performance in the debate.

"I'm going to make a special point of saying that I thought Joe Biden was terrific tonight. I could not be prouder of him. I thought he made a very strong case. I really think that his passion for making sure that the economy grows for the middle class came through. So I'm very proud of him," he said, according to the White House pool report.

Obama added that he talked Biden after the debate.

Sorry - I obviously only heard part of his statement.

by Anonymousreply 47410/11/2012

I have been ambivalent about CNN as I watch them struggle to get back on top as a news source. They were bullied by conservatives and the right and have overcorrected. I tend to start in the middle on most political topics (although I vote for Democrats in elections since they usually represent the cumulative views I hold). But I'm done with CNN now. Their is not even veiled anymore. I used to think David Gergen was most often fair in his assessment. I don't listen to him anymore.

by Anonymousreply 47510/11/2012

CNN will continue to lose viewers because the illusion of objectivity comes at the expense of the truth.

They're an absolute disgrace.

by Anonymousreply 47610/11/2012

I totally agree r475. I used to watch CNN regularly and still do on occasion, such as these debates, elections, etc but no more. Their bias is showing more and more and, worse than that, is the sheer unprofessionalism as newspeople. Call me an eldergay, but i can't imagine any old-fashioned news reporter (Cronkite, etc) acting as they do.

by Anonymousreply 47710/11/2012

Frank Lundtz had a focus group from Ohio on Fox. Almost all the members had voted for Obama in 2008. They claimed they were undecideds now. They weren't favorable towards Biden's smirking. Most undecideds go for the challenger.

by Anonymousreply 47810/11/2012

R477, I was a looooong time viewer of CNN, but I haven't watched them in probably a year for the reason I stated at R476.

by Anonymousreply 47910/11/2012

R478, if Biden had Ryan in the fetal position, FOX/Luntz would declare Ryan the winner. Give it a rest with the FOX bullshit.

Why do you watch that garbage anyway?

by Anonymousreply 48010/11/2012

Mary Matalin has dead eyes. Shark eyes. Doll eyes. Eyes that look like she's been possessed by the Devil. Eyes that look like someone has been working Root magic on her. Those eyes scare me.

by Anonymousreply 48110/11/2012

I agree too r475. CNN never again.

If America votes these dopes, Romney/Ryan into office, they deserve everything they get. America would be totally stupid to elect these two and I hope they suffer incredibly if they are elected.

by Anonymousreply 48210/11/2012

What kiss me is how Anderson Cooper puts himself out there as some great journalist in the likes of Walter Cronkite, Edward R. Murrow and so on. He lets his bias show so much, not only on television but also in his tweets. And if anyone questions him, his typical response is to say that he treats everyone the same, keeping them honest.

by Anonymousreply 48310/11/2012

R482, since you're not from here, I gather you're not aware that only a few million people, if that, hold the presidential election in their hands? Because of our electoral college, it's all up to the voters in the handful of battleground states. Not coincidentally, Republicans have been heading all kind of shenanigans to disenfranchise typically Democratic voters. So, no it's not a black and white, simple thing.

by Anonymousreply 48410/11/2012

I was reading some tweets during the debate and somehow got one from Team Romney ... after I gagged and nearly fell off the treadmill I realized I couldn't tell where it had come from. There was no retweet or anything like that. Does Twitter just randomly send you tweets? Because, if so, they missed the mark on that one by about a billion miles.

by Anonymousreply 48510/11/2012

We have to work hard to make sure the election isn't close. Karl Rove is going to steal it if he can and that is no bullshit. GOTV is critical. There is also an outside chance that Ohio will halt the early voting, so if you live in Ohio and you can vote do it ASAP! Don't wait.

by Anonymousreply 48610/11/2012

I have NO idea how "What pisses me off" got auto-translated to "What kiss me"

by Anonymousreply 48710/11/2012

CNN has become so biased now, they let their conservative commentators run all over the liberals, barely letting them talk. None of the reporters ever challenge the lies of Romney/Ryan or their surrogates (Soledad O'Brien is the ONE exception to this). They are shilling for the right wing now and I hate that Candy Crowley will be the next debate moderator because she is not going to be fair to President Obama, that's a given.

by Anonymousreply 48810/11/2012

Hmm, that random Romney tweet must have been an Android app thing. I don't see it here in my desktop tweets.

by Anonymousreply 48910/11/2012

[quote]Mary Matalin has dead eyes. Shark eyes. Doll eyes. Eyes that look like she's been possessed by the Devil. Eyes that look like someone has been working Root magic on her. Those eyes scare me.

The eyes of someone who has no soul. The eyes of someone who defends Rush Limbaugh and Todd Akin. She is a sick woman and I despise her.

by Anonymousreply 49010/11/2012

FOX NEWS' CHRIS WALLACE: I've Never Seen A Candidate As Disrespectful As Joe Biden Was Tonight

by Anonymousreply 49110/11/2012

God, the Republicans look like a bunch of pussies right now. Whining because Biden was so mean to poor, little Ryan. Hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 49210/11/2012

[quote]FOX NEWS' CHRIS WALLACE: I've Never Seen A Candidate As Disrespectful As Joe Biden Was Tonight "Unprecedented!"

I thought Biden was strong and vice-presidential!

by Anonymousreply 49310/11/2012

I love this pic of Ryan and Biden passing each other after the debate:

by Anonymousreply 49410/11/2012

Ha, no love lost there R494.

by Anonymousreply 49510/11/2012

Had the meat buffet at the CNN Grill along with some hot dogs, my feet are really swollen

by Anonymousreply 49610/11/2012

Reading the comments on that Business Insider's like conservatives truly inhabit a different universe than the rest of us.

by Anonymousreply 49710/11/2012

Good picture R494, Paul Ryan is looking at Biden like "I can't believe you just did that to me, old man."

Biden's looking back like "Yes I did."

by Anonymousreply 49810/11/2012

loved it, watching the replay anyone who thinks Paul Ryan won that debate is lying to themselves.

by Anonymousreply 49910/11/2012

Keep eating Candy, maybe your feet will swell up so much that you won't be able to walk next Tuesday and they'll have to replace your big biased ass.

by Anonymousreply 50010/11/2012

R497, I was about to write something similar. What a vile site and all of the idiots give each other hundreds of thumbs up for *any* negative comment -regardless of accuracy- directed at Obama/Biden. Diseased minds over there.

I mean, you sure as hell don't have to love the Dems, but give me a fucking break with this bullshit of trying to act like Ryan didn't get his ass handed to him and that Biden is just a big "meany." Fucking cowards.

Those of us on the left called out Obama for being weak when he debated, yet these fucking assholes have the nerve to call US the "kool-aid" drinkers? Losers.

by Anonymousreply 50110/11/2012

The right wing loons, pundits and loony pundits who are whining about VP Biden being "mean" or complaining about his expressions are basically admitting that Biden beat their boy on content.

by Anonymousreply 50210/11/2012

Well, if the general consensus is that liberals/undecideds felt that Biden won and conservatives are claiming the debate a tie, the truth is that Joe must have won handily. Conservatives would never readily admit a loss; they are incapable of showing any objectivity.

by Anonymousreply 50310/11/2012

Huffington Post Survey says Joe WON

by Anonymousreply 50410/11/2012

Martha totally lost. Tired, old, dehydrated, raspy, fumbling, seemed like the wrong energy for this debate.

by Anonymousreply 50510/11/2012

I thought Martha was good, the best moderator I can recall actually. Far better than the doddering Lehrer.

by Anonymousreply 50610/11/2012

Since you are both Catholics and please get personal because this is an emotional issue, how do you guys feel about the killing of little babies...I mean abortion

by Anonymousreply 50710/11/2012

Anyone who has ever watched Martha Raddatz knows she is all business, very professional and knows her issues, particularly foreign policy.

Her skill tonight showed. I think she should have moderated the Presidential Debates rather than the VP. You can not possibly choose Candy Crowley over Martha.

by Anonymousreply 50810/11/2012

[R485] That was a promoted tweet. I saw it as well and was confused. Apparently you can pay to have a message tweeted to people even if they don't follow you. There was an option to dismiss it, which I did, hopefully to let them know I didn't appreciate it.

by Anonymousreply 50910/11/2012

Biden clearly won. The media is showing cowardice and pro-Romney bias in claiming Ryan won. They are using the words that should have been used to describe Romney in the first debate "aggressive, disrespectful, etc." Joe could and did speak in a commanding style because he had substance, experience, and knew what he was talking about. Romney was aggressive with nonstop bluster and lies coming out of his mouth.

by Anonymousreply 51010/11/2012

I agree that Martha was a good and tough moderator. She didn't let them weenie out as past moderators have done.

by Anonymousreply 51110/12/2012

LOVE R494's pic. Biden and Ryan look exactly like tomcats looking aslant at each other just before the howling and asswhipping start. Biden, the old experienced yard cat, balls intact, is about to make pampered, neutered house cat Ryan REALLY regret darting out the screen door.

by Anonymousreply 51210/12/2012

I don't know why, but've always had the impression that if God has a face it looks just like Biden's.

by Anonymousreply 51310/12/2012

First numbers are now up, link up shortly. Debate drew less than 30 million viewers, 40 million less than the 72 million in 2008.

CBS: Vice presidential debate (8.3 million, 5.3/8) ABC: Vice presidential debate (7.5 million, 4.7/7) NBC: Vice presidential debate (7.1 million, 4.4/6) FOX: 5.2 million


72 million in 2008 for Sarah Palin + Joe Biden.

by Anonymousreply 51410/12/2012

Where is the DL Poll Troll? What have the polls said about who won the debate?

by Anonymousreply 51510/12/2012

[quote]Debate drew less than 30 million viewers, 40 million less than the 72 million in 2008.

Actually, it drew 51.4 million viewers. See link.

by Anonymousreply 51610/12/2012

So, in hindsight, Biden's VP debate performance may have stopped or mitigated the Obama slide, but it did not really create an Obama bounce. The third presidential debate is crucial.

by Anonymousreply 51710/19/2012
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