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Why am I (and why are so many other gay men) sexually attracted to men with muscles?

I can't figure it out. It's not that we need someone to do actual heavy lifting for us, or to physically protect me.

All muscles really mean is that someone is physically disciplined for a long period of time and has enough leisure time to go regularly to the gym.

by Anonymousreply 27807/31/2017

I don't like men with too many muscles.

Just one big one.

by Anonymousreply 109/08/2012

Speak for yourself, hate muscle queens and remember , when you make love in front of a mirror, your both looking at the same person...and it isn't you!

by Anonymousreply 209/08/2012

OP's dream guy.

by Anonymousreply 309/08/2012

I am older. Years ago most men had natural bodies and I was attracted to many types. Hairy, short, baby fatted. There was always something about almost any guy that I found appealing. A smile, pretty skin, big ass, thighs. I care not a wit for the usual gay male today. Pumped so they all look alike, shaven bodies and crotches. BORING. Give me something unique. An insanely hairy ass, sunken chest, nerdy , wimpy. RED HEADS, did I say red heads? Small dicks........I see a group of gym rats and don't really even look.

by Anonymousreply 409/08/2012

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by Anonymousreply 509/08/2012

Sexual dimorphism. You are attracted to an aspect of one sex that is least like the feature of the sex you are not attracted. Women don't typically develop large musculatures, but men do.

by Anonymousreply 609/08/2012

Big muscles means a guy doesn't read or do anything else interesting with his time. They are blinking neon lights that say: M O R O N. And they're grotesque.

by Anonymousreply 709/08/2012

A big butt is more important for me than big muscles. And a nice face.

by Anonymousreply 809/08/2012

R6, So that theory isn't exactly true...

There is evidence that facially lesbians and bisexual women prefer more "masculine"-looking women. The women that straight women and straight men and gay men, on the other hand, find attractive are more feminine-featured. Straight women, straight men and gay men alike usually prefer masculine faces.

What's more, in low-pathogen and income-equal societies, women who are attracted to men find feminine men more attractive than masculine-featured men. So it's affected by environment as well as not entirely predicted by the intended's gender.

by Anonymousreply 909/08/2012

big muscles, little brain, tiny dick

by Anonymousreply 1009/08/2012

Blame Christianity.

A healthy body implies access to good nutrition and an active lifestyle.

A muscular body implies continuous access to good nutrition and repetitive, focused activity. It's visible proof the person is refraining from the traps of success - sloth and gluttony.

A hyper-muscular body (see Gigantism in Art) implies that if a muscular person is close to God's intended image of Man, a bigger physique is even closer.

Michelangelo Buonarroti was a size queen.

by Anonymousreply 1109/08/2012

I like a football player's build. Like Tim Tebow. Muscles, but a little bit of beef, too.

by Anonymousreply 1209/08/2012

I like skinny little twink bois

by Anonymousreply 1309/08/2012

The bigger the better! Football linemen are my favorite!

by Anonymousreply 1409/08/2012

They are gross, so I don't know why you are attracted to them.

by Anonymousreply 1509/08/2012

[quote]I like a football player's build. Like Tim Tebow. Muscles, but a little bit of beef, too.

Amen! Perfect description, perfect example, R12.

by Anonymousreply 1609/08/2012

I like lean, a swimmer's body. Emphasis on TONE, not size.

by Anonymousreply 1709/08/2012

Because homosexuality relates more to warriors than hairdressers.

by Anonymousreply 1809/08/2012

Hey OP, I've often thought about this too and while I'm not a fan of "big muscles", I love the shape that man's body takes when he's been working out.

Their posture alone makes me grin - shoulders backm standing tall - they look more confident, their walk sort of struts.

I love the image from the back with wider shoulders, narrower waist, leading to a tight ass.

In the front, pecs fill out a shirt, and again the flat stomach keeps leading my eye to his crotch.

And I love chest hair on a fit guy... I think hair accentuates the dimensions a body takes on when a guy has been developing his body.


Non of that happens with unfit or fat guys.

by Anonymousreply 1909/09/2012

It's all of that, R19, plus it's the way you imagine how musky they'd probably smell. I see that pic of Tebow and it makes me want to lick the musky sweat off his body from head to toe.

by Anonymousreply 2009/09/2012

I like muscles, but a handsome face turns me on the most. This guy has both.

by Anonymousreply 2109/09/2012

Women seem less interested in muscles than gay men, but many women ike muscles, too. I think women are turned on by emotional things like love and attention, while men don't need love or caring to be turned on. It's strictly visual for us, and also sense of smell and touch.

by Anonymousreply 2209/09/2012

very interesting peek there at the end, R21...

by Anonymousreply 2309/09/2012

I'm a chubby chaser.

by Anonymousreply 2409/09/2012

I sexualize someone that can protect me. I don't need a man to actually protect me, but the thought of someone who is able to do that is a total turn on. So, an older man who is naturally muscled and beefy does the trick every time. A total muscle queen does not equal protector to me. It equals a narcissist. Does nothing for me.

by Anonymousreply 2509/09/2012

I've always been into faces, but lately I've been checking out guys arms and legs. Big guns really send me and nice legs make me wet.

by Anonymousreply 2609/09/2012

As opposed to something like this, OP?

by Anonymousreply 2709/09/2012

r19, your post told no one anything about the relevant question. You just said you like muscles too. You've added zero insight.

by Anonymousreply 2809/09/2012

R28, you added nothing except pointless waste-of-time hostility.

by Anonymousreply 2909/09/2012

For me it was a visceral thing. I was drawn to the images on the covers of bodybuilding magazines from my earliest memories.

They had a physical effect on me that I didn't understand until I was much older.

by Anonymousreply 3009/09/2012

Delicious in garlic butter

by Anonymousreply 3109/09/2012

It's an evolutionary adaptation. Big muscles signify power, competence, confidence, masculinity. The attraction is innate, as R30 suggests, because the reptilian part of our brains understands that a strong/fit alpha male can offer protection/survival. Everyone wants to score first prize--the leader of the pack.

by Anonymousreply 3209/09/2012

[quote]R19, your post told no one anything about the relevant question. You just said you like muscles too. You've added zero insight.

I think we can assume that Porky at R28, can easily be mistaken for a sibling of Gayle Grinds and has never seen the inside of a gym.

by Anonymousreply 3309/09/2012

r32, that sounds like bullshit pseudoscience to me.

by Anonymousreply 3409/10/2012

That's what all the fundies say about evolution, R34.

by Anonymousreply 3509/10/2012

Apples and oranges, r35, apples and oranges.

I and almost all biologists can back up evolutionary theory. But you can't back up your bullshit claim at r32--you just pulled it out of your ass.

by Anonymousreply 3609/11/2012

r32, how is it survival of the fittest when this rock god can't impregnate us?

by Anonymousreply 3709/11/2012

He can keep you safe from harm if you are in his favor.

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by Anonymousreply 3905/29/2013

Mmmm a good combination of muscles and fat YES. I need to feel jiggle and hardness in the right spots like Manuel Ferrara in his scenes with some jiggle on his stomach mmmmm lol.

by Anonymousreply 4005/29/2013

Tim Tebow may have an okay body, but his face could make a freight train take a dirt road.

by Anonymousreply 4105/29/2013

I've always been into muscular men particularly bodybuilders. That round ass gay men like is from muscles. When you develop a body like that you become more confident and you don't mind being naked. You are also happier because of the effects of working out.

by Anonymousreply 4205/29/2013

The muscle fascination is mainly an obsession of femmies (who make up an extremely tiny portion of all homosexuals). Most every gay guy I've ever met is NOT into that. Yes, some definition looks great, but when you start adding bulk and the face gets fat, it goes downhill.

by Anonymousreply 4305/29/2013

Man muscles make Momma's mussy as quivering and moist as a jello salad.

by Anonymousreply 4405/29/2013

LMAO. I think r44 has just confirmed r43 as correct.

by Anonymousreply 4505/29/2013

It's funny the dishonesty and denial on an anonymous forum about gay men's attraction to muscles. Anyone with eyes can look at the guys that get posted on the threads and all of them are muscular, usually swimmer-underwear model-fitness model physiques. But there have been bodybuilders.

by Anonymousreply 4605/29/2013

There actually have been studies on sexual attraction. The other posts were right. It has to do with looking healthy (even if its not) looking, strong, leader, energetic, futile etc. We project all these ideals onto people just based on their looks weather they are true or not. All subconsciously of course.

Symmetry is another one. We like things that look balanced. The Greeks built entire cites based off this theory (The Golden Section). Human body was part of is. Hence all the muscular statues of naked men in Europe.

Discovery did a thing on the face a while back. The results:

by Anonymousreply 4705/29/2013

R22, Many females like fit, athletic men (but not gym rats) because we assume they'll be more energetic in all areas of their lives.

by Anonymousreply 4805/29/2013

you posters who equate 'men with muscles' with roided out action figures need to sit down. sorry, don't sit down, you do too much of that already, go play outside and take a chill pill.

nothing wrong with putting some time and intent into taking care of your body. try it, you'll feel more better and less bitter.

by Anonymousreply 4905/29/2013

I go to the gym four times a week. Does that make me a Muscle Queen? I will admit I am proud of the condition I am in, especially for a man my age. Plus a lot of guys like my ass.

by Anonymousreply 5005/29/2013

muscles matter

by Anonymousreply 5106/11/2013

Why wouldn't we be attracted to them?

by Anonymousreply 5206/12/2013

I got the bottoms when I bulked up and packed on some muscles. Pile drive it better too.

by Anonymousreply 5306/12/2013

spot me bro

by Anonymousreply 5406/17/2013


by Anonymousreply 5507/02/2013

Muscles are attractive (as long as they're not on roided out body builders). I don't know any gay male or straight female who doesn't like a fit, athletic man.

by Anonymousreply 5607/02/2013

IT depends upon how muscular. A lightweight bodybuilder is hot, a heavyweight bodybuilder is not.

by Anonymousreply 5707/02/2013

I think for the same reason some gay men are attracted to that whole "daddy" thing: Masculinity and affection mixed together is a very powerful and addictive mix.

by Anonymousreply 5807/02/2013

I like muscle, but not of the serious body building size which is well, freakist- too much. I like athletic bodies, proportioned etc. Why? Well I am a gay man and for some reason athletic moderately muscles bodies, well placed body hair, big cocks, deep voices and all the rest, turn me on- big time. I don't analyze it any more than that.

by Anonymousreply 5907/02/2013

I suppose it's for the same reason that almost all straight men like big breasts even if they're fake.

by Anonymousreply 6007/02/2013


by Anonymousreply 6107/02/2013

In an era before PLAYGIRL and before adult book stores selling HONCHO, INCHES, BLUEBOY and MANDATE, bodybuilding magazines were the closest thing one could get to see a semi-naked man in print

by Anonymousreply 6207/02/2013

When you look at media and porn pre1990, you are struck by how small and unmuscular the so-called "beefcake" models were. Today, they would be considered scrawny.

by Anonymousreply 6308/02/2013

When I came out in the 70s, I was active in the gay community and none of the hundreds of gay men I knew aspired to having a muscular physique and nobody went to a gym. The media wasn't saturated with images of muscular men the way it is today. The widespread adoration of muscles really took hold in the gay community in the 80s and 90s.

by Anonymousreply 6408/02/2013

I sometimes wonder if, for me and my generation, it is connected to coming out as gay in "the Plague Years" (late 80s, early to mid 90s). In those years, among gay men, AIDS was hitting harder every year, more and more deaths. The sick and dying men were often very thin/frail. Skinny-ness began to be a feared thing. I have a tall/lean build, was very slim in those years and was often told, in so many words, that I'd better bulk up/beef up "just in case..." That was uncomfortable advice to receive; (a) it's downright morbid, and (b) how exactly should a whippet try to become a Rottweiler?

This created a reactive "big puffy muscley" type of uber-gaymale image that was prominent in gay porn and on go-go dancing stages in the bars. He - this big puffy muscley uber-homo - couldn't [italic]possibly[/italic] have AIDS. Not he. No, the big young muscley stud can be thought of as healthy, immune, safe.

The meds have come along and improved the HIV/AIDS outlook but the prevalence of this big beefy dude remains. He, as the ultimate desirable in homo imagery, still exists today, and he hasn't really changed much since then. Although today there is more diversity around the smooth/hairy thing.

by Anonymousreply 6508/02/2013

I think (R65) is partly right. But straight guys are into muscle building in a way they never used to be too. Most of the buff guys at my gym are straight. The muscular body seems to reflect a widespread admiration In the States for men who can tough it out in an every-man-for-himself economy.

by Anonymousreply 6608/02/2013

((hugs)) Torta because I haven't seen a post from him in a LONG time

by Anonymousreply 6708/02/2013

I'm not, I just like a partner who's fit and ideally lean.

by Anonymousreply 6808/02/2013

AIDS. They don't look like they're dying.

by Anonymousreply 6908/02/2013

See Darren Young

by Anonymousreply 7008/15/2013

Muscles connote strength, power, kiss buttness, aggressiveness, and masculinity.

by Anonymousreply 7109/27/2013

Francisco Dominguez

by Anonymousreply 7212/09/2013

Muscles and athletic or strength ability is POWER.

More power than others to do anything physical.

It's not relevant to most people in the modern economy, but it sure was vital to humans for 200,000 years of our history prior to the Information Age.

It's primal power instincts kicking in. And YES, greater strength and fitness still allows you to do greater feats during sex. There's a thrill in being overpowered/ overpowering someone, and I don't mean rape. It's all the abilities of what you can do physically.

by Anonymousreply 7312/09/2013

When I was in my early 30s I started working out seriously and packed on a lot of pounds in muscles. I got laid so much more and ever since. I became a whore, darlings.

by Anonymousreply 7412/09/2013

I find men with big muscles to be too concern about their muscles than anything else (shallow), and the kind of dudes that think everybody has the same mindset as theirs.

by Anonymousreply 7512/09/2013

Can someone start a "Presenting Hot Muscle Dudes" Thread?

by Anonymousreply 7612/10/2013

amazing bro

by Anonymousreply 7712/23/2013


by Anonymousreply 7812/27/2013

Start a Muscle Dude thread for pics.

by Anonymousreply 7901/01/2014


by Anonymousreply 8002/22/2014

I adore bodybuilders. In the sack there is nothing better, nothing even comes close especially if they know what they're doing. I think a lot of you are full of crap... everyone loves bodybuilders. Envy and narcissism are the problem with these big men. Lovable? They have to earn it just like everybody else but sexy over-the-top? Absolutely especially when they're blessed with good looks. Sigh...

by Anonymousreply 8102/26/2014

[quote]Plus a lot of guys like my ass. by: (relatively-fit) 55-year-old geezer

Once, yes.

But now it's a draggin and a saggin.

by Anonymousreply 8202/26/2014

I want Muscles!!

by Anonymousreply 8302/26/2014

power and strength are sexy

by Anonymousreply 8405/02/2014

Power is hot

by Anonymousreply 8505/03/2014


by Anonymousreply 8605/03/2014

Speak for yourselves.

by Anonymousreply 8705/05/2014

muscles = secondary sexual characteristic

by Anonymousreply 8805/05/2014


by Anonymousreply 8905/07/2014

Muscles connote power and potency.

by Anonymousreply 9006/19/2014

John Hirka

by Anonymousreply 9106/28/2014


by Anonymousreply 9208/16/2014

It must be a new phenomenon. If you look at Playgirl or stuff from the 70s, people are so much less muscular.

by Anonymousreply 9308/16/2014

yeah, dudes in the 70s looked so tiny and undeveloped.

by Anonymousreply 9408/25/2014

not attracted to big muscles at all. Like in shape, in proportion and if they guy is muscled I like it to be relative to his frame.

There is something inherently insecure about the vibe many body builders [NOT ALL] give off.

by Anonymousreply 9508/25/2014

Looking better

by Anonymousreply 9608/25/2014

I hate large muscles, hate. I have no attraction to men who are the typical overly worked out obsessed muscle head who posts weekly updates on his progress via Instagram with comments like "getting there" making progress while sporting an 8 pack. I'm attracted to guys who look like they are in the gym once a week rather than hours a day. Slightly nerdy, glasses and some natural body hair. These shaved, tattooed muscle clones do nothing for me. I don't even get aroused by that muscled look.

by Anonymousreply 9708/25/2014

R81 "everyone loves bodybuilders" really? You are a brain dead moron.

by Anonymousreply 9808/25/2014

Silly queens like R44 make me happy I am not attracted to bodybuilders.

by Anonymousreply 9908/25/2014

Muscles meant that someone was strong so better able to take care of you and the children you make together.

Today, money means the same thing, so we are also attracted to rich people...

by Anonymousreply 10008/25/2014

I like skinny muscular men, like this:

by Anonymousreply 10108/25/2014

In my experience I am not sure most gay guys like big muscles as those of bodybuilders'. I have noticed most like moderately muscled bodies. Gregg Sulkin is a good example of the most popular body type among gay guys

But being a gay guy and liking muscles is completely normal and expected because when you are a gay guy you feel attracted to masculinity and muscularity is a visual display of masculinity.

In my case, I find big muscles highly attractive, especially when the guy is a bodybuilder because the poses in bodybuilding naturally demand some degree of masculine attitude when performing them. :P

Everybody have different prefernces on this though.

by Anonymousreply 10210/21/2014


by Anonymousreply 10310/21/2014

People who are attracted to males are attracted to masculinity, power, and strength. Muscles are a physical representation of those attributes.

by Anonymousreply 10410/21/2014

It is normal to like muscles if you are gay just like it is normal to like very feminine girls if you are a lesbian. That's what your sexual orientation usually makes you lean towards.

by Anonymousreply 10510/21/2014

I prefer the build of a swimmer or even a middle distance runner. Extremely muscular bodies just look deformed.

by Anonymousreply 10610/21/2014

I have a friend who is gay and muscular and I have noticed men both gay and straight check him out when he wears muscle shirts for example.. Don't kid yourself straight men will check out other muscular men as well not just gay men.

by Anonymousreply 10710/21/2014

Guys also check out themselves, but they cannot admit it or be too explicit because of hmophobia.

It doesn't matter if you are heterosexual, homosexual or bisexual, many guys see other guys as rivals.

by Anonymousreply 10810/21/2014

I am a member in a forum that is 100% gay men-oriented and there is a threadfor bodybuilders. It is the least visited thread. Most people vitsit the other thread of fottballers, swimmers and even rgby players, but the one about bodybuilders is scarcely visited by members.

I have found out that even among us bodybuilders are not seen as attractive as society tends to think of us.

Regardless, a homosexual guy liking bodybuilders or muscle men in general is completely fine. Muslces are sexy^^

by Anonymousreply 10910/26/2014

Gee, maybe because we admire the male physique?

by Anonymousreply 11010/26/2014

As some have already stated, muscularity is a secondary sexual characteristic in men.

by Anonymousreply 11110/26/2014

"Footballers?" You American, bro?

by Anonymousreply 11210/26/2014

Muscles denote power, strength, and influence.

We all want to be affiliated with those.

It's the same reason we are attracted to rich people.

by Anonymousreply 11310/27/2014

Yep, I also noticed that straight dudes care more about other dudes' physiques than chicks. When I was skinny, friends and random dudes would always encourage me to work out and take supplements. They claimed that I could get "jacked" because of my structure and offered to work out with me. After I became more muscular, it was dudes that gave me the most frequent and fervent complements, almost always straight dudes. Straight guys would say stuff like, "dang bro, you must be on steroids now," or "looking good, brah," or "whoa, you're so jacked now." Sometimes, they would ask me to flex or to lift my abs. Rarely, would women say stuff, except as an aside comment about how my physique had changed. Some women even claimed to like me better when I was skinny. Walking around, I notice men checking out my bod more than women.

by Anonymousreply 11410/27/2014

It is natural that men will follow the muscular one because of all the attributes attached to muscularity culturally, socially and instinctively.

However, being homosexual doesn't mean that we only see muscularity in terms of sexual arousal exclusively, we also see muscularity as a sign of leadership just like heterosexual men do and also causes rivalry among homosexual men just like many heterosexual men envy the muscular ones.

It is a guy's thing, regardless of sexual orientation, to want to stand out from the rest and, for men, one of the ways for them to stand out is muscularity. The only exception is that we can also appreciate muscularity in erotic ways.

by Anonymousreply 11510/27/2014

because all men with muscles are bottoms.

by Anonymousreply 11610/27/2014

I think really intelligent guys are hot. Glasses are a real turn-on.

by Anonymousreply 11710/27/2014

Big muscles are ugly.

by Anonymousreply 11810/27/2014

The same reason people think tall men are smarter, more courageous, and better leaders.

by Anonymousreply 11910/27/2014

R101, the guy in that photo is beautiful, and not remotely "skinny." Why would you use that word to describe him? Were you joking?

by Anonymousreply 12010/27/2014

I think the better term is "leanly muscular."

by Anonymousreply 12110/28/2014

Leanly muscular

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by Anonymousreply 12410/28/2014

I like this bodybuilder in the picture. He is the sexiest bodybuilder for sure.

I love big muscles. Also, in my coutry there aren't black men so that makes him even more attractive to me.

by Anonymousreply 12510/29/2014

Feeling attracted to muscularity is normal for a gay guy. Now, if you cannot live without muscularity in order to get an orgasm then that is a problem.

I love muscles but I can live without a muscular body perfectly.

In my case, muscles are perfect for one night stand. You get to feel all the potential a muscular body has to offer. ti always add to the situation feeling muscles and all that stuff.

Now, I don't think I would like to have a bodybuilder as my boyfriend. Not that there aren't those who are more humble and less self-centered, but this activity usually demands a degree of self-absortion, narcissism, being overconcerned with food, body image, etc. Let alone the fact that many other guys would be hiiting on him, etc.

by Anonymousreply 12610/31/2014

Bisexual bodybuilders are hot

by Anonymousreply 12710/31/2014

Another sample of leanly muscular: Male model Hao Yunxiang from China:

by Anonymousreply 12810/31/2014

Muscles do not necessarily make a guy sexy. In my younger days I thought they did, but I was wrong about that.

by Anonymousreply 12910/31/2014

Au naturel.

by Anonymousreply 13010/31/2014

R109 spill some info on that forum so the rest of us can escape the fraus here

by Anonymousreply 13110/31/2014

Most gay men like extremes, they don't like ordinary. On one end you have drag queens, who push a feminine ideal to the extreme, then on the other hand you have muscle guys, who push a masculine ideal to the extreme. Both can be likened to cartoon characters.

The fly-over states are another good example of ordinary that many gay men abhor.

by Anonymousreply 13210/31/2014

At a certain point, muscles have diminishing returns. I prefer average to lean, fit dudes. I usually don't find the bulkier guys to be very attractive. Biceps and whatnot don't really do anything for me. At the same time, I don't want a skeleton.

by Anonymousreply 13310/31/2014

I don't think most gay guys like the extremes. Drag queens are not pricesely what an ordinary gay guy might fall in love with, femininity is usually a turn-off. When it comes to muscles, big muscles tend to be a turn-off too. Most like something like Tom Daley, not too big; just the right amount of muscle mass.

by Anonymousreply 13410/31/2014

That's what I'm talking about r122! Dayum, that is a beautiful man.

by Anonymousreply 13510/31/2014

I love bodies this big.

by Anonymousreply 13610/31/2014

wow dude

by Anonymousreply 13711/10/2014

Sthenolagnia is the sexual arousal caused by the display of muscularity and strength.

Sthenolagnia is believed to be caused by the need to feel protected.

I think getting aroused by watching the display of muscles and strength is relatively common and normal as long as it doesn't become an obsession and the only way you can get sexually aroused.

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by Anonymousreply 13911/12/2014

[quote]Man muscles make Momma's mussy as quivering and moist as a jello salad.

by Anonymousreply 14011/12/2014

" many other gay men) sexually attracted to men with muscles"

The attraction to Muscles is so strong for some gay men that they have surrogates sing songs about it.

by Anonymousreply 14111/12/2014

Women are also highly attracted to miscles, but they are not allowed to expresse it in public unless the situation allows it, otherwise they are called sluts for expressin sincerely their sexual fetishes.

There is nothing wrong with feeling attracted to muscularity as long as it doesn't interfere with a normal balanced lifestyle.

by Anonymousreply 14211/13/2014

Not the huge dudes

by Anonymousreply 14311/13/2014

It must be like a fashion. Muscles came into style and now are expected.

If you look at old photos from Playgirl and stuff like that from the 80s it is surprising how unmuscular the people are.

by Anonymousreply 14411/13/2014

Yep, r144. The male models and centerfolds before 1990 look so skinny and underdeveloped.

by Anonymousreply 14511/13/2014

Not me, give me a natural man, a little furry belly.

by Anonymousreply 14611/13/2014

Muscles are associated with masculinity and power. There are gay men who are muscular as well, so maybe ask them if they ever feel like they are being objectified for their muscles and that is the only thing they feel people care about. Straight men also admire men with muscles from afar and wish they could be just like them.

by Anonymousreply 14711/13/2014

Most people think all gay guys like muscles, but actually it is not as many as most think.

I have come across so many other gay guys who find big muscles a turn-off that I sometimes feel ashamed to tell that I like muscles.

by Anonymousreply 14811/13/2014

Diana Ross may have sang "Muscles" but Michael Jackson wrote it. So he can't be into little boys as they aren't muscular.

by Anonymousreply 14911/13/2014

Men are supposed to be strong and powerful

by Anonymousreply 15012/10/2014

One theory I read says that attraction to muscularity stems from the need to feel protected.

by Anonymousreply 15112/11/2014

I could be satisfied with a guy built like this.

by Anonymousreply 15212/11/2014

Most people find the fitness model physique ideal, not bodybuilders. They want lean muscles, not big bulk.

by Anonymousreply 15312/11/2014

Flexing while dancing

by Anonymousreply 15412/11/2014

However, there are so many other guys that also love muscular bodies but they don't need to feel protected by them (muscles), instead they fantasize with dominating the muscular guy.

by Anonymousreply 15512/12/2014

Yeah, people like to be around masculine power

by Anonymousreply 15612/13/2014

I actually wrote the song about my pet snake.

by Anonymousreply 15712/13/2014

Because ya are, Blanche, because ya are!!!

by Anonymousreply 15812/13/2014

Perhaps it is just my personal perception but I have discovered that most gay guys don't find big muscles attractive.

I sometimes talk to other gay guys on chat and most of them don't like the bodybuilder look at all.

Contrary to the general perception that we are more attracted to big muscles than women...

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by Anonymousreply 16012/24/2014

You know, your average straight teen starts with playboy, epxlicit nudity.

On the other hand your, average gay teen start with bodybuilding; erotic and suggestive; not explicit.

by Anonymousreply 16101/02/2015

Michael C3

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by Anonymousreply 16301/24/2015

Michael Thurston

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by Anonymousreply 16502/21/2015

"Women are also highly attracted to miscles"

is that like rocket riding?

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by Anonymousreply 16703/02/2015

I'd say it's evolutionary biology. Muscles = Strength = Survival.

by Anonymousreply 16803/02/2015

I don't car for muscle men. OP I will be you are young.

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by Anonymousreply 17003/02/2015

Men that say what I feel claim we are not telling the truth, but I could care less. When I see what has become of men ( young and old ) posting non stop selfies with almost no body fat it is a total turn off. I like natural men who have natural bodies. I like men who eat healthy not for vanity, but for health. I notice the more a man depends on his looks and body the less interested he is in other things including other people and the world we live. If had the chance to go on a date with a 8 pack or a cute natural man I would there would be no doubt natural would win out.

by Anonymousreply 17103/02/2015

whatever, r171

by Anonymousreply 17203/02/2015


by Anonymousreply 17305/12/2015

I would guess it has to do with evolution and the subconscious.

I read somewhere that women love men with meaty asses. It isn't because the women necessarily want to do anything with those butts, but that it signifies thrusting power, which signifies virility and manhood.

Over millennia, a fit man is one who could survive, who could provide and protect.

So it makes sense that evolution gears us towards desiring that.


by Anonymousreply 17405/12/2015

Why are heterosexual men attracted to curvaceous women?

I think it is the same logic for us.

Curves enhance a woman's femininity and that makes them naturally more attractive for heterosexual men.

Big muscles are a secondary sexual trait in men and we are attracted to muscualine traits.

How curvaceous; how muscular, that depends on the person though.

by Anonymousreply 17505/12/2015

There is a fraction of heterosexual men who have a fetish with muscualr women. We are not the only ones who crave muscles, except, for a gay guy liking muscular men is perfectly normal, it is part of liking men, but it is kind of weird when a heterosexual men alsolike big muscles in women.

by Anonymousreply 17607/01/2015


by Anonymousreply 17709/03/2015

Cause this

by Anonymousreply 17809/25/2015

I don't care for them myself.

by Anonymousreply 17909/25/2015

I'm not.

by Anonymousreply 18009/25/2015

Exceptions don't vitiate the rule, dude

by Anonymousreply 18109/25/2015


by Anonymousreply 18209/25/2015

Being a gay guy who likes muscles is common and normal. What's very uncommon is when heterosexual men like women with big muscles.

by Anonymousreply 18309/25/2015

Look at this fucking huge muscles! :P

by Anonymousreply 18409/27/2015

I like beefy muscles just fiine, but I'd rather be with a guy with a belly than some lean gym queen constantly complaining about carbs. Such a turn off.

by Anonymousreply 18509/27/2015

Well, yeah, the wrong personality may turn muscles into such a turn-off and just imagone thei reinforcement of self-absortion at the gym among the muscle peers.

I prefer muscle men/bodybuilders for one night stand and not for a long-lasting relationship. I don't think I could ever have the second with a bodybuilder because, well, I love muscles, but I don't like the obsession that they may trigger in these men.

There is a group among bodybuilders who basically do it just to increase their sex appeal and many of them are not narcissistic as you think they might be. I mean, they love showing their muscles and turning someone on, but they don't look down on you as narcissists tend to see others. They enjoy it when you enjoy it in egalitarian terms.

by Anonymousreply 18609/27/2015

Hopefully they'll protect us from bashers.

by Anonymousreply 18709/27/2015

R187 You can always make fun of them by pointing out how homoerotic bodybuilding is n_n

Most studies on homophobia have shown that about 80% of homophobes are actually repressing their same sex attraction. That number must be very rpresentative of homophbes in bodybuolding, after all, this is about watching other men nearly naked doing suggestive things on a stage for other men.

by Anonymousreply 18809/27/2015


by Anonymousreply 18910/24/2015

R189, are you the guy who dredged up the Trevor Adams thread?

by Anonymousreply 19010/24/2015

who dis?

by Anonymousreply 19110/24/2015

Gyms are filled straight dudes trying to get big muscles. It is not just a gay thing.

by Anonymousreply 19212/05/2015

Yep, muscles matter more than ever.

by Anonymousreply 19312/08/2015

Guys with big muscles are generally dumb, dumb, DUMB.

by Anonymousreply 19412/08/2015

Why wouldn't we be attracted to this?

by Anonymousreply 19512/11/2015

Explain, R195

by Anonymousreply 19612/11/2015

I don't know why I am, but I am! I am! I am!!!!! ....may I have tissue, please?

by Anonymousreply 19712/11/2015

This is a question whose answer is so logical, nothing really mysterious.

Now, what I find more intersting to know is if muscularity/bodybuilding makes you embrace an exhibitionist attitude. Do they like to draw attention to their bodies?

by Anonymousreply 19812/17/2015

I've been protecting you all along, bitch! But you can't handle the truth!

by Anonymousreply 19912/17/2015

What's not to like. . . .

by Anonymousreply 20012/17/2015

He photoshops his own photos. He enhances the size of his muscles. R200

by Anonymousreply 20112/17/2015

Bisexual orientation. Big body building men have women's shapes and walks. They no longer have the straight, masculine gait but a woman's waddle.

by Anonymousreply 20212/17/2015

It is hot.

by Anonymousreply 20312/18/2015

He's bisexual?

by Anonymousreply 20412/18/2015


by Anonymousreply 20501/04/2016

Because secretly you really want to be the woman with a big, strong man to protect you and make you feel desirable in bed. In your mind, it will also help alleviate the feelings of low self esteem you probably suffer from as a result of living in a heterosexual world, and vindicate your sexuality as a gay man as well, showing the straights, "Look what I can get."

by Anonymousreply 20601/04/2016

Bizarre theory

by Anonymousreply 20701/04/2016

I work in a clinic that sees many gay men. I am noticing that gay guys in their twenties are not going to the gym the way older gays do. I asked one of the younger guys about it and he said the muscled look was old fashioned. So, perhaps a new look is developing. My generation went from the disco to the gym in about 1983. I suspect it was in response to the epidemic.

by Anonymousreply 20801/04/2016

Society has pathologised an attraction to a body type that is actually natural and expected if you are attracted to men. There's nothing wrong with liking muscular men, it is simply your sexual orientation manifesting itself and that's normal.

No one pathologises heterosexual men's attraction to big breasts and butts simply because it is acceptable and expected that men like women.

by Anonymousreply 20901/07/2016

There is nothing natural about 80% of them r209,...... steroids, HGH, etc.......

by Anonymousreply 21001/07/2016

R210 Sexual arousal is not something rational, it just happens if someone meets the criteria. Your brain doesn't ask how a muscular body was achieved in order to tell you to lust after him or not; it just happens because we are hard-wired to lust after muscles, it is in our nature the same way heterosexual men are hard-wired to lust after women with big breasts even though most women don't have big breasts like those they see in XXX mags.

But still, even if a man achieved his body using drugs there is nothing wrong with lusting after those muscles. Whether or not a man is using drugs to get that body is not the topic nor is it an axcuse to shame people who lust after muscles.

by Anonymousreply 21101/07/2016

Actually, I do have some heavy lifting I need done.

by Anonymousreply 21201/07/2016

Many complain about bodybuilders looking huge and ripped and say their bodies are a turn-off. Put the same bodybuilder on the stage in a night club and everybody will drool over those same muscles. A funny fact of life is that many bodybuilders are actually strippers.

Does context influence the way we perceive things?

by Anonymousreply 21301/09/2016


by Anonymousreply 21401/09/2016

just because...

by Anonymousreply 21501/09/2016

Someone feels like a troll, that's R215

by Anonymousreply 21601/10/2016

R65 Yes, it was the hiv/AIDS thing initially. But then the pumped look became more normal for het/gay and male/female. It's like whitened teeth - just part of the landscape now.

by Anonymousreply 21701/10/2016

ask Pietro

by Anonymousreply 21801/10/2016

visually appealing, unless you like dad bod or muffin top.

by Anonymousreply 21901/10/2016

Muscles connote power, dominance, Alpha Maleness, strength, vigor, vitality, physical self-maintenance, training, athleticism, and virility. Why wouldn't people be attracted to them?

by Anonymousreply 22001/11/2016

I don't think physical self-maintaincance is perceived as attractive/erotic because it sounds more pretentious than erotic. But the other qualities I agree.

When I was younger I used to wonder why muscle men looked for other muscle men and not guys that were their opposite as it happens with heterosexuals, you know, one is the big and strong and the other the delicate and defensless (so to speak), but then I realised that homosexuality doesn't necessarily works like that and that homosexual males are more or less attracted to the same qualities that we define as masculine regardless of you having muscles or not.

by Anonymousreply 22101/13/2016

Because you don't have any of your own?

by Anonymousreply 22201/13/2016

Are bi dudes as attracted to muscles?

by Anonymousreply 22301/13/2016

I found these funny videos from Japanese guys. The section is called 筋肉がみたい which means "I want to see muscle". I don't speak Japanese, I still need some practice, but from what the host was saying I understood that flexing releases pheromones. Can someone confirm this?

by Anonymousreply 22401/13/2016


by Anonymousreply 22502/20/2016

R47 : "futile"??? Did you mean fertile? If so, how does that apply to gays?

by Anonymousreply 22602/20/2016

I disagree with the stereotype that muscled men are idiots. I personally know 2 doctors who are body-builders in their free time. they workout everyday because they enjoy it but their lives don't revolve around it. for example instead of sitting on DL for 2 hours they'd rather hit the gym.

by Anonymousreply 22702/20/2016

Half his life revolves around the idea of building muscles because it demands a lot of time, R227

by Anonymousreply 22802/21/2016

R65 / Torta : This was true in my experience. I was friends with Tyler Regan (porn actor) in the 90s. He was HIV+, and took steroids and other stuff in order to be bulky and muscular. And then he suddenly died in the fall of '93. He was so muscular and healthy looking nobody could believe he had HIV, let alone die of AIDS.

by Anonymousreply 22902/21/2016

Pheromones attract gays to the muscles.

by Anonymousreply 23002/22/2016

It's about POWER and masculinity

by Anonymousreply 23102/28/2016

But if a woman were powerful and masculine it would not have the same effect on gay men.

Our brains are programmed to find the muscular male figure sexually attractive. And I also think that this hardwiring of our brains make us also respond to non-visual stimuli such as male pheromones, etc. Have you ever caught yourself smelling the jacket of your partner when he left it in your house?

by Anonymousreply 23203/01/2016

OP, the same reason women do. You wish you were born a woman. Easy peasy.

by Anonymousreply 23303/01/2016

r232, I tend to be attracted to dainty but athletic fit women, and big buff muscular men. I like women and men that are ideals of gender stereotypes.

by Anonymousreply 23403/02/2016

You're bisexual R234

by Anonymousreply 23503/11/2016

So they can beat up any man who picks on me.

by Anonymousreply 23603/11/2016

What's not to like about these always-horny pieces of hard meat?

by Anonymousreply 23703/11/2016

That is why one would marry a lawyer, not a muscle queen.

by Anonymousreply 23803/11/2016

I don't know because big muscles are so ugly.

by Anonymousreply 23903/11/2016

Sometimes you just want to be submissive. With all the stress and worries of daily life, and always usually carrying the weight, you just want someone bigger than you who can take control.

by Anonymousreply 24003/11/2016

r238 I was married to a lawyer. I think I'd rather have the muscle queen.

by Anonymousreply 24103/11/2016

I don't want a muscle queen, I want a muscle dudebro.

by Anonymousreply 24203/11/2016

Most would pick the muscle man for one night stand. Most don't consider muscle men for a long-term relationship. It's probably the big muscles that make people thinnk they care more about themselves and their muscles...

by Anonymousreply 24303/11/2016

[quote]Most would pick the muscle man for one night stand. Most don't consider muscle men for a long-term relationship

I know. No one will ever love me.

by Anonymousreply 24403/11/2016

The same reason straight and bi guys like big titties. Its apart of the overall allure of the person you're attracted to. Are you serious OP. Every other day theres one of these stupid inquiries about sexual dersire/attraction. What gives? It ain't rocket science.

by Anonymousreply 24503/11/2016

Or the other way round, R244

by Anonymousreply 24603/11/2016

Actually, yes, attraction to muscle men doesn't need to be questioned; it is natural for people attracted to men to like the male figure in many of its shapes, especially when it comes to muscularity.

by Anonymousreply 24703/12/2016

Today I learnt heterosexual women touch heterosexual guys' arms in order to find out whether or not the guy has developed biceps. It happens for example, when they (men) tell a funny story and she goes like "oh, haha, really?" and that thet very moment she puts her hand on the guy's arm.

Do some gay guys also do that when meeting a guy?

by Anonymousreply 24803/17/2016

There is a research paper posted in the annals of DL that answers this.

It also describes why gay men prefer more masculine facial features.

However, these preferences are "average" - meaning not EVERY SINGLE GAY MAN ON EARTH wants muscles. I have to put this in all caps because it seems to be an issue that is severely confused by people.

Gay men are the same as straight men. They want the most sex-typical features. Straight men want a 0.7 waist/hip ratio and big breasts...very feminine characteristics. Gay men want a V shaped torso and muscles...masculine characteristics. With regard to the face, straight men want feminized versions of average females...and gay men want more masculine versions (wide jaws, larger brows, etc...) Women, when ovulating, like more masculine and muscular men. When not ovulating, they like the opposite.

by Anonymousreply 24903/17/2016

You want gay men sexually attracted to men with vagnia, womenly boobs, womenly ass.?!

by Anonymousreply 25003/17/2016

But physical attraction doesn't necessarily match or influence romantic feelings. I mean, you can be highly turned on by muscular men but you don't need or desire your potential boyfriend to be muscular.

Most of the time we desire muscles for irelevant sexual encounters in which you can live your fantasies, but your idea of a boyfriend doesnt necessarily include developed muscles.

by Anonymousreply 25103/17/2016

It does for me r251

by Anonymousreply 25204/02/2016

Men want to be big and strong and powerful

by Anonymousreply 25304/17/2016

Women like muscular dudes too

by Anonymousreply 25404/30/2016


by Anonymousreply 25505/15/2016

They are extremely hot, R255. Thanks!!

by Anonymousreply 25605/15/2016


by Anonymousreply 25705/16/2016

Muscle is hot

by Anonymousreply 25810/28/2016

Testosterone model the way men will look and estrogen model the way women will look. If you are homosexual it means that your brain has been hardwired during gestation to identify the physical traits that characterise men and desire the, sexually, your reaction to them is then sponatenous and natural. The human eye has a tremendous capacity to spot both the evident as well as the subtle characteristic of the human body.

Let's imagine a hypothetical scenario where relatively strong developed muscles could mean the survival of humans in communities. Perhaps, when nature created homosexual men it made them lust after muscles as an incetive to increase the chances of them becoming athletic to protect their community and it made them romantically attracted to men to avoud conflict among them so that they work togetehr as a group.

by Anonymousreply 25910/28/2016

My typing was horrible above >.<

by Anonymousreply 26010/29/2016

OP, muscles might mean a guy works hard in a physically demanding job rather than posing at the gym. In your circles probably not however. And lots of women don't like loads of muscles. Arnie, Seagal, Van Damme etc were never major sex symbols for women.

by Anonymousreply 26110/29/2016

Really? I was under the impression that Jean Claude Van Damme was a sex symbol for women during his young muscular days. He wasn't that big at the time, he had the right body to promote him a sex symbol.

by Anonymousreply 26211/04/2016

Van Damme seems tiny by today's standards

by Anonymousreply 26311/05/2016

R223 : Yeah, because they're attracted to EVERYTHING.

by Anonymousreply 26411/05/2016

Muscles imply access to meat, an advantage for breeding healthy butt babies!

by Anonymousreply 26511/05/2016

From a homosexual point of view, the breeding part does nothing for us though so that point doesn't count in the discussion at all.

by Anonymousreply 26611/05/2016

I like a skinny guy with toned arms, a big dick, a big brain, a good sense of humor and a kind heart. And hairy legs and nice chest/stomach fur.

by Anonymousreply 26711/05/2016

I would also make the case and I think it is undeniable that heterosexual men in bodybuilding are also fascinated with the erotic connotations of bodybuilders' bodies.

When they call bodybuilders flattering names such as "monster", "beast", etc there is an implied meaning of sexual attractiveness and sex potential. It doesn't necessarily mean that they want to go to bed with bodybuilders, but definitely they are fascinated with the eroticism of the muscular body. That's why they like to look at other men exhibit their muscles with fascination and enthusiasm.

There's actually a book that briefly states that for both, homosexual and heterosexual men who like bodybuilding it cannot be discarded an erotic interest in a bodybuilder's body/muscles.

by Anonymousreply 26811/23/2016

R267, you type old dude

by Anonymousreply 26911/23/2016

Power is hot

by Anonymousreply 27002/11/2017

Hetero women and gay men seem to experience the male body and the essence of male nature differently...

Men usually seem inclined to like sports, athleticism and strength. For gay men this is also true with the aggregate that we are able to feel the erotic side of athleticism and strength coming from a man's body. We usually classify those attributes as masculinity and we seem more fascinated with masculinity.

Women, on the other hand, seem less interested athleticism and strength. Not that they don't like to look at an athletic man, it is just that it seems to do less for them for some reason...

We can only speculate and say, for example, that we are men and as men we understand male nature and the male body more than women and perhaps we like to explore how intricate and surprising male nature can be....

by Anonymousreply 27102/18/2017

I have noticed that culturally when muscles are discussed in relation to women attraction to muscles is natural and sexy and women are aggressively expected to like them, however, if it is in relation to gay guys then attraction to muscles is stigmatised as weird, unnatural, a fetish.

Not only you see it in informal conversations but also in many books that discuss these matters and there is or there was a lot of bias towards gay males and their attraction to the muscular male body.

by Anonymousreply 27203/02/2017

I like my men folk with a little blubber on 'em. Fit-fat, little chunky monkeys please. Muscles are too diva-ish and high maintenance for this country boy.

Give me a Buddha bellied, hairy, real dude any day, everyday...over a gym bunny. Hop-a-long now Peter, and take your muscled cotton tail with you. But introduce me to your chubster friend before you bounce baby. Bonus points if he's a ginger.

by Anonymousreply 27303/02/2017

Women love and appreciate buff, athletic men too. That is why the high school jocks gets all the hot chicks. Today, women swoon over dudes with ripped, buff bodz just like men. And grown women chase athletes like groupies.

by Anonymousreply 27403/02/2017

There is an interesting phenomenon in bodybuilding forums, some of them very well known, and it happens that while most of the users claim heterosexuality and express great disdain for male homosexuality it is frequent that admiration of the male body homosexually charged is inevitable. Many times when users upload pics of bodybuilders some of these users can't help expressing how attractive a certain bodybuilder looks in a given pic. Some are more explicit while the majority expresses it in disguise implying they would not mind having some kind of sexual interaction with that bodybuilder.

by Anonymousreply 27503/02/2017


by Anonymousreply 27603/21/2017

I hate big muscles, I think they are ugly.

by Anonymousreply 27703/21/2017

I can't get enough of big buff bros! 💪🏿

by Anonymousreply 27807/31/2017
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