Does anyone feel, after watching interview with the vampire, that Lestat, and Louis were in love? I mean there's always this romantic undercurrent in the film and in the novel. What are some movies with homosexual subtext?
Movies with homosexual subtext (e.g. interview with the vampire)
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Strangers on a Train
Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
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It's hardly a subtext in "Rope."
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Tango & Cash
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Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid (they even watched each other have sex)
Thelma and oh you know the rest...
Chip And Dale
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Milo and Otis
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It's hardly a subtext in the Anne Rice books, either, as Lestat and Louis explicitly have a romantic and sexual relationship with each other.
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What is the subtext in Woolf?
Obviously North by Northwest had one.
I'd say East of Eden and Ordinary People had them
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Master and Commander.
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I used to beat off to the Hornblower books, so I guess you have a point there.
Pretty much any pirate movie.
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Shawshank Redemption was a love story between Tim Robbins and Morgan Freeman.
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Tea & Sympathy
Thelma & Louise
West Side Story
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IWtV should not have had any gay subtext whatsoever. It should have been blatant, as it is in the book.
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[quote] Strangers on a Train
on TCM right now
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Fried Green Tomatoes
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The Song of Bernadette
A Separate Peace
All About Eve
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Black Widow starring Debra Winger and Theresa Russell
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The Greatest Story Ever Told
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Bulletproof with Adam Sandler and Damon Wayans had plenty. It should have been called Bulletproof Hearts and the characters should have been ex-lovers and the whole thing would have made perfect sense. All it would have taken was one or two lines of dialog -- they could have looped it it, no need for re-shoots.
Missed opportunity, big time.
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The Talented Mr. Ripley
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This Means War, the puerile nonsense starring Reese Witherspoon, Chris Pine and Tom Hardy. Like R25s, another one of those scripts that only makes sense if the two male characters are lovers - a fact the NY Times also pointed out in its review.
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with Dennis Rodman and Jean Claude Van Damme
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The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie
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Y Tu Mama Tambien
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In the movie Louis and Lestat were portrayed more as two bros not lovers. Louis and Ormond on the other hand, definitely had homosexual subtext. If I remember correctly, Louis flat out admits his attraction to Ormond in their last scene together.
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Ferris Bueller's Day Off
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Ferris Blower Gets Off
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The Green Berets
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[quote]Y Tu Mama Tambien
The male characters in those movies were actually having sex--there was no subtext.
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Who was involved in the Inception subtext, r23? Arthur and Eames?
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The Covenant and all it's sequels.
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The Craft. STRONG lesbian vibes.
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Kiss of the Spider Woman
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Do some posters here not understand the different between "subtext" and "blatant and obvious and in-your-face"?
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Comparing guns in Red River.
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i dare you to define subtext.
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They should remake Robinson Crusoe with the explicit relationship between him and Friday revealed.
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Fried Green Tomatoes (shouldn't have been subtexted)
A Separate Piece, I mean, Peace
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Sorry for the last post. I hadn't refreshed my page and didn't know most in my list were already posted.
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[quote]Do some posters here not understand the different between "subtext" and "blatant and obvious and in-your-face"?
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Obviously it's been a long time since I've seen the movie...but "Ordinary People"?
What am I forgetting, or missing?
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Louis and Lestat weren't bros. They had a child together for fucks sake (with whom they of course also had sexual subtext). I remember reading a rant by a Tom Cruise fangirl, how gross that film was and how hot it would have been if he bit a woman like he bit Louis.
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The social network. mark/eduardo wanted to fuck so bad and no i'm not some tumblr fangirl just a fan of the film.
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East of Eden...Rebel without a cause....Apartment Zero...Johnny Guitar
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Suddenly Last Summer
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I don't get where there's subtext in East of Eden. It was only James Dean, his father and his brother - I don't remember any other males.
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The Talented Mr. Ripley was not subtext since they made Tom expressly gay at the end. Plein Soleil, on the other hand, is subtler.
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King Rat - George Segal and James Fox
Lawrence of Arabia - Peter O'Toole & Omar Sharif
From Here to Eternity - there's a scene with Lancaster & Clift, where Lancaster drunkenly paws and pets Clift
Unknown 50's war movie with Tony Curtis. Showed TC and his soldier buddy curled up together to sleep in a trench
I got a vibe that Robert DeNiro had special feelings for the John Savage character in 'The Deerhunter'. He cradled and protected him a lot in the movie.
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Two more Tony Curtis movies:
The Defiant Ones
Trapeze, with Burt Lancaster
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"Man's Favorite Sport" with Rock Hudson and Paula Prentiss. Rock had his moments but with good humor and the surprising thing is that Paula Prentiss does as well.
"The (original) Stepford Wives" Yeah. Think about it.
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R55, well, there's that scene where Dean converses with Albert Dekker while Dekker showers and dresses. Dean hovers around so close that Dekker says, "Don't stand so close to me, I don't want to get all hot again!" Dekker then lights a cigarette as he towels off, Dean grabs it and takes a few puffs. It's an odd scene that would've been more titillating (and more obvious) had Dekker been handsomer and leaner.
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Murder By Numbers - Michael Pitt & Ryan Gosling's roles
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Enemy at the Gates: the WWII epic has a theoretical romantic triangle at the center between Jude Law, Rachel Weisz and Joseph Fiennes, where the two men are supposed to be in love with Rachel, but the way the movie is directed and acted (especially by Fiennes), it seems that his character is more in love with Law than with Weisz, and that makes his actions at the end of the movie more sensible.
Johnny Eager: Van Heflin won a Best Supporting Actor Oscar as the drunken, Shakespeare-quoting "best friend" of gangster Robert Taylor; there's more chemistry between Taylor and Heflin than there is between Taylor and leading lady Lana Turner, and, again, the ending practically makes the gay subtext explicit.
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The Big Combo: 50's film noir where Lee Van Cleef and Earl Holliman play the goons of a syndicate biggie. Their relationship has been viewed as more than coworkers.
The Hitcher: this movie is so full of the most blatant subtext. Crazy hitchhiker Rutger Hauer chases young twink C. Thomas Howell thru the desert, saying "you have to stop me". RH murders the woman that tries to help CTH escape him.
A telling scene shows CTH spitting in RH's face and RH lovingly spreading the saliva over his face (metaphor for ejaculation?). RH then hums the song "A Bicycle Built for Two", which has the lyrics "I'm half crazy, all for the love of you".
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I thought I read the remake of the Hitcher ditched that element of the story. Speaking of horror movies, Jeepers Creepers had a bit of that going, with the male being the focus rather than the female. Was there some subtext in Fright Night?
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R9- in "Woolf" there is a homosexual subtext in George's story and his own possible attraction to Nick. I always watch that movie thinking George is gay. That is part of their illusions and fears.
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R59-great call. I always thought it was just the Anybody character. But now I will watch it in a different way.
Also think there is a gay subtext in " 3:10 To Yuma"- I think Ben Foster's character is in love with Russell Crowe's character .
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The Talented Mr. Ripley
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Suddenly Last Summer is not subtext, unless you see lesbian subtext? Homosexuality is the main plot point.
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Anything with RDJ or Jude Law probably.
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Less Than Zero - there was a smoldering vibe between Robert Downey and James Spader. Not so much with Andrew McCarthy and RDJ.
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Yes, r70, I totally got that vibe from Ben Foster in 3:10 to Yuma.
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R60, have you seen "The Sweet Smell of Success", also with Tony Curtis and Burt Lancaster? It's VERY homoerotic, with their two characters engaged in a twisted dominance/submission relationship.
"Trapeze" and "Sweet Smell of Success" are so very homoerotic, that I still think Curtis and Lancaster were having an affair at the time.
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The Fog of War
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I got a bit of a vibe between Robert Gere and David Keith in "An Officer and a Gentleman".
In the movie "King of New York", Wesley Snipes and David Caruso play undercover cops. Wesley gets shot and David appears to kiss him while he's laying on the ground.
Magnum Force with Clint Eastwood. Wasn't it implied that two of the dirty cops were lovers?
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I second the person who asked about "Ordinary People." I am not disagreeing, just curious as to what I missed.
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R58-it may interest you to know that Cilft was really drunk in that scene. And I always noticed that hand gesture that Lancaster made. Although I have never figured out whether it was between the two characters or just a gesture from Lancaster to Clift.
There is a scene in An American In Paris, right after the girl falls into Gene Kelly's arms - in the background: two guys run down the stairs holding hands-one is shirtless. You have to look for it. But it is there.
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Near the end of Lawrence of Arabia, Omar Sharif and Anthony Quinn (he plays a Bedouin prince) almost get into a slap fight over Lawrence.
Quinn's character wants Lawrence to go back to the desert with him and continue fighting their war. Sharif is like, oh, no, he's staying with me. Quinn spits out as an accusation "you love him!" Sharif doesn't reply, just shoots him daggers with his eyes.
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In MARATHON MAN, the characters played by William Devane and Roy Scheider are lovers. It was much more implicit in the book, but somehow, Schlesinger managed to get the subtext in without the morons at the studio noticing.
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Saying that INTERVIEW WITH THE VAMPIRE has a homosexual subtext is like saying the Bible touches on religious themes.
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Apartment Zero, already mentioned, is perfect example of subtext. There is no sex or even implied sex between leads but it's there. Also a great movie and early one for Colin Firth. I read he was initially thought too good looking for the "nerdy" character.
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Hey R84, I'm talking about the scene where the two sit in the middle of the road, drunk. I've never noticed any one 'gesture' by Lancaster, just that he's real handsy, running his hand over Clift's head/hair/shoulders.
Check the video - starts approx 3:00 mark.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||09/05/2012|
Any movie that has two soldiers in love with the same woman ends up seeming like it has a homosexual subtext. Eventually, the bond between the men is stronger than to the woman.
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I was going to post "Lawrence of Arabia" too but because of the lip-licking scene.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||09/05/2012|
Apropos. Did Lawrence of Arabia imply that he provoked them to rape him on purpose? His behavior there was all kinds of odd and downright stupid otherwise. Weird scene! And a pretty damn outrageous scene, especially for the time.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||09/05/2012|
"It's hardly a subtext in the Anne Rice books, either, as Lestat and Louis explicitly have a romantic and sexual relationship with each other"
It's been a while since I've read that book, but where in "Interview with the Vampire" do Lestat and Louis "explicitly have a romantic relationship with each other?" When Louis is made a vampire the feel of Lestat's lips on his neck sucking his blood gives him a strange feeling of arousal, but after he's made a vampire his feelings for Lestat are universally negative. In fact, he detests Lestat and only stays with him because he's such a wimpy, listless vampire. And since he and Lestat are both undead creatures, they obviously aren't even capable of an "explicit romantic relationship."
Louis has something like love-type feelings for a vampire named Armand and he has a creepy lover-like relationship with his "child", the eternally five or six year old demonic Claudia. But he never could stand Lestat.
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Nightmare on Elm Street 2
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[quote]And since he and Lestat are both undead creatures, they obviously aren't even capable of an "explicit romantic relationship."
It's clearly been a while since you read Anne Rice.
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In Interview With A Vampire, Rice made it perfectly clear that Lestate was in love with Louis but Louis did not feel so inclined. Louis was Lestates second male love interest. Lestate didn't have much luck with men.
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The (very gay) Matrix
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Speaking of vampire movies I always thought evil Ed from Fright Night was gay. Especially when Jerry said I know what it's like be "different" right before he turned him into a vampire.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||09/05/2012|
There is a trope that slash fans use to pinpoint random instances of homoeroticism that sneak into various movies, TV shows, etc. It's the "no heterosexual explanation moment". The poster at R98 reminded me of one in Point Break.
Maverick cop Keanu Reeves jumps out of a plane after bank robber Patrick Swayze, even though Keanu doesn't even have a parachute on. Keanu manages to catch up with Patrick in the air. They end up tangled up together, arms and legs wrapped around each other and faces inches apart while free-falling towards earth. It plays like lovers willing to die for each other.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||09/05/2012|
[quote]Louis and Lestat weren't bros. They had a child together for fucks sake (with whom they of course also had sexual subtext). I remember reading a rant by a Tom Cruise fangirl, how gross that film was and how hot it would have been if he bit a woman like he bit Louis
Lestat wanted Louis for his companion, Claudia made that statement in the film. Otherwise, Lestat would have picked a female for his companion. Lestat also wanted the reporter (Christian Slater) toward the end of the film. Lestat was clearly gay or bi.
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"It's clearly been a while since you read Anne Rice"
You're damned right! Her writing is trash.
Ann Rice is primarily responsible for making vampires into glamorous desirable sex symbols. Before she came upon the scene vampires were soulless monsters, scary, repulsive creatures with red eyes, corpse white skin and foul breath. They sure as hell weren't dreamboats! They had a hypnotic power to lull their victim into a strange, vaguely sexual trance in order to subdue them, but there was no actual sex involved. The penetrating of the fangs and the sucking of the blood was the "sex." Of course all that's changed now. Vampire are no longers monsters; they're as human-looking as anybody else and they have intercourse and kiss (now vampires have kissing sweet breath) and fall in love and have babies just like your average Joe Shmoe next door.
As a kid I loved vampire stories and movies. You didn't see them that often and the vampires were truly scary. Now there is that godawful Twilight franchise and there's been at least three vampire tv series, and it's all so ordinary and boring. Vampires aren't scary anymore. For horror fans, I think that's sad.
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Star Wars. It was clear that Solo was having hot monkey sex with Chewbacca.
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|by Anonymous||reply 104||09/05/2012|
There was all kinds of gay subtext in Point Break. Many say it was the gayest film Reeves ever made.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||09/05/2012|
The Phantom Menace: Qui Gon and young Obi-Wan, more than padawan and master.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||09/05/2012|
Anyone who thinks Anne Rice was responsible for making vampires sexy is ignoring a lot of history.
Vampires have always been a sexual metaphor.
Back in the day, Bela Lugosi was considered quite sexy. No, I don't see it, but he was considered very handsome.
So was Christopher Lee.
Did you even see Frank Langella's Dracula?
Rice just added a bit of homoeroticism to the mix. Vampires -- with the exception of Nosferatu -- were always supposed to be seductive and sexual.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||09/05/2012|
I am watching "The Razor's Edge" - big subtext between Webb and Herbert Marshall's characters.
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The movie "The Eagle" with Channing Tatum and Jamie Bell inspired an LJ person to dissect it for subtext.
That person's post is the first place that I came across the term "no heterosexual explanation" applied to instances of gay subtext.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||09/10/2012|
[R31] Completely agree about Louis and Armand. Plus, they would have been a hot couple in the film, hotter than Louis/Lestat imo.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||09/19/2012|
Fried Green Tomatoes FTW
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"I love your nails, maybe I'll let you do mine sometime..."
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Deliverance. And not for the "squeal like a pig" scene. There is something between Burt Reynolds character and John Voight's. I cant quite remember but I think they implied that something occurred on a past trip they two took, something that Voight's character is trying to avoid. Reynold's character seems more the predator, asking him suggestively at one point why Voight thinks he takes him on these trips.
Some people see a gay subtext in Casablanca between Louis and Rick, albeit one-sided. Louis at one point says something like if he were a woman he would want to marry Rick. Rains is so good in the part, and he does sort of seem to play it as if the Captain has something of a man-crush on Rick. Louis also takes a lot of risks for Rick and in the end, its the two of them that go off together, starting what is hoped a "beautiful friendship."
|by Anonymous||reply 115||01/04/2013|
X-Men movies. Especially X-Men First Class is almost a love story between Eric and Charles (Magneto and Professor X).
|by Anonymous||reply 116||01/06/2013|
Times Square allegedly had the relationship more explicit before the censors had it chopped out. That's why there are some parts that lack continuity or context.
Unfortunately, the original footage is lost. I would love to see it!
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