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PHYLLIS DILLER DEAD

Rest in peace, ugly.

by The late Bob Hopereply 14312/28/2012

So young .....

by The late Bob Hopereply 108/20/2012

Frederic von Anhalt, go now. Her house is full of wigs.

by The late Bob Hopereply 208/20/2012

ahh RIP Phyllis!

by The late Bob Hopereply 308/20/2012

RIP! #2

by The late Bob Hopereply 408/20/2012

Nothing on CNN, Drudge, HuffPost...

by The late Bob Hopereply 508/20/2012

Still here, bitches!

by The late Bob Hopereply 608/20/2012

If you haven't read her memoir "Like a Lampshade in a Whorehouse," I'd recommend it -- under all the getups was a smart, shrewd, extremely literate woman. She was also an outspoken atheist.

Marvy-poo!

by The late Bob Hopereply 708/20/2012

Soap thread

by The late Bob Hopereply 808/20/2012

Rosie did a wonderful, one-hour tribute to her on her ill-fated OWN talk show last year.

by The late Bob Hopereply 908/20/2012

We've been talking about her old age for so long I'm surprised this day has finally come. I was thinking she would be around for even longer.

by The late Bob Hopereply 1008/20/2012

Wonderful woman; a groundbreaker and class act.

She will be missed.

by The late Bob Hopereply 1108/20/2012

She had a good run...

by The late Bob Hopereply 1208/20/2012

Usually when a celeb dies, I think they were annoying, overrated, spoiled narcissists, whatever. I don't like most celebs, but I liked Phyllis. She lived a very long life though, and was still making public appearances and even performing I think, either until recently or right up to the end.

by The late Bob Hopereply 1308/20/2012

Arggh, my childhood hero, I loved her on the talk shows.

Rest In Peace

by The late Bob Hopereply 1508/20/2012

It's about time.

by The late Bob Hopereply 1608/20/2012

If you have Netflix Streaming, check out "Good Night, We Love You", a great documentary about her at the end of her stand-up career. She had a lot of firsts under her belt and, off stage, seemed like a very genuine, balanced human.

by The late Bob Hopereply 1708/20/2012

Amazing woman and comedian. RIP

by The late Bob Hopereply 1808/20/2012

Phyllis was so old that she got a senior citizen discount to see Birth of a Nation. She was so old that she remembered the best thing BEFORE sliced bread!

RIP

by The late Bob Hopereply 1908/20/2012

Not crazy about her sixties comedy involving her husband "fag". Hopefully she became enlightened with the passing decades.

by The late Bob Hopereply 2008/20/2012

r20 must be a joke, but that was Fang, not Fag. I'm sure Phyllis was totally gay-friendly and liberal, she was an atheist as well.

by The late Bob Hopereply 2108/20/2012

I knew her years ago, back when she started calling herself ugly and making jokes about her looks. It was pretty funny because in real life, and without her stage make up, she was quite pretty.

by The late Bob Hopereply 2208/20/2012

Fang, R20, Fang.

by The late Bob Hopereply 2308/20/2012

R20, the name was "Fang."

by The late Bob Hopereply 2508/20/2012

She managed to retain a human appearance with her plastic surgeries unlike the disgusting looking Joan Rivers.

by The late Bob Hopereply 2608/20/2012

RE - You're an idiot. It was "Fang" . Young people are so ignorant today.

by The late Bob Hopereply 2808/20/2012

OMG Its too soon :(

by The late Bob Hopereply 2908/20/2012

Unfortunately her death will be overshadowed by Tony Scott.

These things happen sometimes.

by The late Bob Hopereply 3108/20/2012

I think R20 was an Emily Latilla type joke, surely.

by The late Bob Hopereply 3208/20/2012

She was great. And old. And she smelled.

I knew people in St. Louis (Kirkwood) who knew her before she started her career, and so much of her early schtick came right out of her personality and family experiences.

Kisses, Phyllis. But in the air, you old sack of ugly.

by The late Bob Hopereply 3308/20/2012

Her husband's nickname was "fang"- doofus !

by The late Bob Hopereply 3408/20/2012

I heard that Susan Lucci and Robin Strasser are sisters and Phyllis Diller is their mother!

by The late Bob Hopereply 3508/20/2012

I don't know about that. Most people don't know the names of film directors except maybe Spielberg.

Most people over at least 35 are familiar with Diller. Gen Xers know her from her animated guest appearances on "Scooby Doo."

by The late Bob Hopereply 3608/20/2012

She performed at one of Philly's Gay Pride Festivals (easily ten years ago), so she was indeed gay-friendly.

by The late Bob Hopereply 3708/20/2012

RIP.

by The late Bob Hopereply 3808/20/2012

And Mickey Rooney is still with us.

Liza Minnelli is still with us!?!

by The late Bob Hopereply 3908/20/2012

Oh r20..,

by The late Bob Hopereply 4008/20/2012

She died in her sleep, but was surrounded by family?

How muhcab.

by The late Bob Hopereply 4108/20/2012

...and Jerry Lewis, R39. Don't forget that asshole.

by The late Bob Hopereply 4208/20/2012

R39, don't forget me!

by The late Bob Hopereply 4308/20/2012

R20, are you joking or just an idiot?

by The late Bob Hopereply 4408/20/2012

I posted notes of condolence on both Robin Strasser and Susan Lucci's Facebook pages.

by The late Bob Hopereply 4508/20/2012

She made an appearance in the documentary "Who Killed the Electric Car?" about ten years ago talking about how she remembered riding around in one of the first electric cars when she was a small child!

by The late Bob Hopereply 4608/20/2012

R20 -- sorry if this has been posted already, but her nickname for her ex-husband was "Fang." He did sue her, though; so did her MIL.

by The late Bob Hopereply 4708/20/2012

"She died peacefully in her sleep with a smile on her face," manager Milton Suchin told the Associated Press.

And she paid a lot of money for that smile, many many times.

by The late Bob Hopereply 4808/20/2012

She was a great comedian and an even better lay.

by The late Bob Hopereply 4908/20/2012

8o(

by The late Bob Hopereply 5008/20/2012

What was the name of her ex-husband?

She sent me a very kind note and a copy of her book one time.

by The late Bob Hopereply 5108/20/2012

I will always have great fondness for Phyllis--she was a supportive friend, trusting confidant, and an exceptionally tender and erotic lover.

by The late Bob Hopereply 5208/20/2012

Saw her play the wicked witch in THE WIZARD OF OZ at Starlight Theatre in K.C. in the 80's. The entire 7 night run was a sell out.

by The late Bob Hopereply 5308/20/2012

Phyllis Diller gave me one of my big breaks in show business, and I'm so grateful for all of her support throughout the years.

During the last year of my series Phyllis would visit me on the set and we would scissor wildly; her labia touching mine was such a lovely feeling.

She was one of the best.

by The late Bob Hopereply 5408/20/2012

I met her once about 25 years ago and she was kind of a bitch.

by The late Bob Hopereply 5508/20/2012

Buckeye from Lima

by The late Bob Hopereply 5608/20/2012

The Show wasn't a success but the opening credits were the best in TV history. I dare you to not get that song stuck on you head.

by The late Bob Hopereply 5708/20/2012

Once Madame Diller and I shared a lazy summer together, eet vas veery rrrromantic, and we seeexty-nines all day long on zee beech.

by The late Bob Hopereply 5808/20/2012

I hope she was surprised on being ushered into Heaven...

by The late Bob Hopereply 5908/20/2012

Phyllis was racist. Much of her 60s schtick involved anti black sentiment.

by The late Bob Hopereply 6008/20/2012

She was ahead of her time, and a very funny lady.

I always loved her!

by The late Bob Hopereply 6108/20/2012

Phyllis on Roseanne's Nuts show:

by The late Bob Hopereply 6208/20/2012

Phyllis dear sweet Phyllis. I will forever remember the woman who took my cherry.

by The late Bob Hopereply 6308/20/2012

Phyllis Diller taught me how to be a woman.

by The late Bob Hopereply 6408/20/2012

I'm crying as I type….

by The late Bob Hopereply 6508/20/2012

I'm sad, very sad. I didn't expect her death to affect me, but It sure has.

I was always happy watching a Phyllis Diller routine.

I drive past her house everyday on Rockingham and smile. I wondered why there were so many cars so early this morning.

RIP

by The late Bob Hopereply 6608/20/2012

Phyllis on her start:

[quote]"My first audience…were gay people, because they have a great sense of humor. They love comedy and they love to laugh. How do you think they got the word gay put on them? The second people were ladies, women, who just heard me say what they'd been thinking. Like bitching about ironing and housework and all that stuff. And that is comic."

by The late Bob Hopereply 6708/20/2012

RIP

by The late Bob Hopereply 6808/20/2012

How she managed to survive so long without Wayland Flowers' forearm up her ass, I have no idea.

by The late Bob Hopereply 6908/20/2012

I threw a lamp at her once.

by The late Bob Hopereply 7008/20/2012

I love the lady.

A true original.

by The late Bob Hopereply 7108/20/2012

She was one of the unhealthiest looking people yet she lived to be 95. I'm just saying.

by The late Bob Hopereply 7208/20/2012

She gave Barbra her start.

I'm stunned this thread still isn't on the first page. She revolutionized stand up comedy for woman.

EVERY single female comic out there today is there because of her.

by The late Bob Hopereply 7308/20/2012

Shit..now I only have Babs as a living legend that I can imitate.

by The late Bob Hopereply 7408/20/2012

"She was just so smart. If something happened at four o'clock, it was in her act at eight o'clock. She didn't need a funny hat, she didn't need a funny wig, she didn't need shoes... I adored her. She was so on top of everything.

"She was the first who really did stand up. She didn't sing, she didn't dance, she came out and she did an hour of great talk. And I think she's the first woman who ever really did that..."

- JOAN RIVERS

A true original has died. Phyllis Diller There was NOOne like her, no 1 looked like her sounded like her... Classy& Smart RIP".

- WHOOPI GOLDBERG

"Oh!God that makes me sad! What a shame We loved her in this house! She was More amazing than i (can) say"

- CHER

"Farewell, Phyllis. Thanks for everything, especially your sweetness with my mother. Godspeed, dear friend."

- NANCY SINATRA

"Today marked the passing of one of the great comedic icons of all time. She was also my friend. Phyllis Diller, you'll always make me laugh."

- KIEFER SUTHERLAND

"RIP Phyllis. You will be missed here but Heaven will be jumping tonight. Sad day for us all."

- PATTY DUKE

"We lost a comedy legend today. Phyllis Diller was the queen of the one-liners. She was a pioneer."

- ELLEN DEGENERES

"The thing that strikes me most about Phyllis, aside from a joy to be around, was her uniqueness, There was no one like Phyllis before, and I doubt if there will be anyone after."

- BOB NEWHART

"a painter on canvas and in humour of the human condition."

- HENRY WINKLER

"a revolutionary woman who inspired me always has died today-but I know she was ready and wanted to go. Fly Free, friend. Phyllis Diller RIP"

- ROSEANNE BARR

"it was an honor to know her to laugh with her to be inspired by her. without her none of ladies could have ever made it"

- SANDRA BERNHARD

by The late Bob Hopereply 7508/20/2012

I'm still alive?

by The late Bob Hopereply 7608/20/2012

Barbra Streisand gave Phyllis her first job back in the 60s.

by The late Bob Hopereply 7708/20/2012

Another Republican dead. GOOD!

by The late Bob Hopereply 7808/20/2012

I may be in the minority, but I never found her funny. Her one-liners were horrendous. Always forced laughter from the audience. I would pray for Joan Rivers to come on and actually be a funny woman. Sad, I suppose, though.

by The late Bob Hopereply 7908/20/2012

She was hilarious and so ahead of her time. I remember her from talk shows when I was little then carpet cleaning commercials back in the 70's or 80's - for Steamatic, I think, or one of those. Indicating that her carpets were so filthy before having them cleaned, she ended the commercials by saying, "I had NO IDEA this was a shag!" followed by her funny laugh.

by The late Bob Hopereply 8008/20/2012

r60, never hears a racist thing she said...NEVAH!

by The late Bob Hopereply 8108/20/2012

I just spoke to a friend who had drinks with her 2 months ago - Martini's - He said she was blind and he had to put the stem of the glass in her hand, but she drank and still joked!

by The late Bob Hopereply 8208/20/2012

I loved that woman. Bye,bye,my darling....

by The late Bob Hopereply 8308/20/2012

Phyllis Diller roasts GOVERNOR Ronald Reagan

by The late Bob Hopereply 8508/20/2012

Thanks R85

PD to RR: "If you ever get to be President, and I think you may, just one think. If you have a depression, try not to have it at a bad time, like when everybody's out of work."

by The late Bob Hopereply 8608/20/2012

Phyllis roasts Barbra Streisand

by The late Bob Hopereply 8708/20/2012

So sad. I loved ol' Phyllis.

by The late Bob Hopereply 8808/20/2012

Babs must be in constant mourning. Great clip at R87

by The late Bob Hopereply 8908/20/2012

Her comments at the Streisand roast made me cry. Phyllis was one of the giants, one of the greats.

Babs lost TWO friends recently. Marvin Hamlisch and Phyllis Diller.

by The late Bob Hopereply 9008/20/2012

Phyllis was an iconic, ground-breaking comedienne who overcame so much to get to the top of her profession. So funny and talented! They're all laughing it up in heaven now!

by The late Bob Hopereply 9108/20/2012

Barbra's losing all her old friends - No statement yet, on Phyllis. Time is a bitch......and so am I .

by The late Bob Hopereply 9208/20/2012

As a kid in the 60's I remember being dragged to the drive in with my parents to see Sorry I Dialed a Wrong Number with Bob Hope, Elke Sommer and Phyllis Diller. Even then the movie was stupid but Phyllis stole every scene she was in. She was whacked and I loved seeing her on tv. The Roseanne's Nuts episodes is still on my dvr. I'll have to watch tonight.

by The late Bob Hopereply 9308/20/2012

I should be used to the pointless nastiness on DL after many years but some of this thread stakes out a new low.

by The late Bob Hopereply 9408/20/2012

[quote] I remember being dragged to the drive in with my parents to see Sorry I Dialed a Wrong Number with Bob Hope

Actually, the title was "Boy Did I Get a Wrong Number."

But a mash-up with Sorry Wrong Number might have been interesting....

by The late Bob Hopereply 9508/20/2012

Will GLEE do a Phyllis Diller tribute episode? Hold a memorial service at The Lima Bean?

by The late Bob Hopereply 9608/20/2012

[quote]She was great. And old. And she smelled. I knew people in St. Louis (Kirkwood) who knew her before she started her career, and so much of her early schtick came right out of her personality and family experiences. Kisses, Phyllis. But in the air, you old sack of ugly.

She's old, how fuck old are you and your friends Grandpa?

by The late Bob Hopereply 9708/20/2012

I don't think anyone here mentioned her being an artist, too. A lot of them were big-eyed faces and rather cartoony city scenes, but she also tried some interesting things.

by The late Bob Hopereply 9808/20/2012

Any comment from Jo Anne Worley?

by The late Bob Hopereply 10008/20/2012

Most of you won't remember this, but Phyllis was the spokesperson for a now-defunct regional brand called Paramount Pickles ("The Beautiful Pickle") in the 1970s and early 80s. The TV commercials were usually just 30 seconds of Phyllis doing material and shoehorning a product plug in at the end. So we got to see Phyllis do a little standup almost every day growing up.

I'll miss Phyllis. Also the pickles.

by The late Bob Hopereply 10108/20/2012

"Barbra's Law" invoked again.

by The late Bob Hopereply 10208/20/2012

She will be missed.

Who did her facelifts?

by The late Bob Hopereply 10308/20/2012

R100 WHOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAGGGHHHH

by The late Bob Hopereply 10408/20/2012

[quote]Who did her facelifts?

Everyone, R103, everyone.

by The late Bob Hopereply 10508/20/2012

Some might not find her old routines funny, most likely due to the generation gap, but she did have some very funny moments. It's a far cry from some of today's comics who feel they have to rely upon obscenities and vulgar set-ups in order to get a laugh.

by The late Bob Hopereply 10608/20/2012

Rip

She is with Fang now.

by The late Bob Hopereply 10708/20/2012

She was hilarious, and an ORIGINAL. RIP, Phyllis.

by The late Bob Hopereply 10808/20/2012

She was a pip...

by The late Bob Hopereply 10908/20/2012

In her autobiography "Like a Lampshade in a Whorehouse", ex-wife Phyllis Diller claims Warde was bisexual, which resulted in their divorce in 1975.

Tall, handsome baritone of post-war musicals who met wife Phyllis Diller while both were performing in a Chicago revival of the musical "Wonderful Town" in the summer of 1962.

by The late Bob Hopereply 11008/21/2012

A man would almost have to be a bisexual to want to marry Phyllis Diller. She's in Judy and Liza territory.

I think she was funnier with her original face. Like Carol Burnett looking more goofy and vulnerable with her weak chin, Phyllis's brash, assertive persona was enhanced by her large nose. Cutting it off made her more telegenic, but Streisand certainly gets the last laugh in the link at R87.

Another neat facet of Diller's character is that she was a classically trained pianist and all-around musician. She surprised audiences with her singing ability as Dolly Levi late in the show's Broadway run. She discusses her casting as Dolly and her approach to the role at the link:

by The late Bob Hopereply 11108/21/2012

Such a loss. She was always a great fan of mine.

by The late Bob Hopereply 11208/21/2012

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by The late Bob Hopereply 11308/21/2012

They showed her house once. She had gorgeous antiques and very beautiful taste. It so sad that there are hardly any REAL LEGENDS LEFT and any REAL ICONS AND STARS LEFT. Now we are left with these reject no talent losers! Sorry I have to say it because its true. That one of a kind lady is going to be greatly missed!

by The late Bob Hopereply 11508/21/2012

Watching the online documentary about her you see her gift surpasses most comics today, male or female.

She still had her chops in old age, perfect timing, fantastic delivery, and witty!

Most comics today are not witty. They play to a very broad audience which includes a lot of retards, so they dumb it down too much. But they don't mind dumbing it down in order to get a t.v. show.

Phyllis Diller was a genius.

by The late Bob Hopereply 11708/21/2012

Philis who?

by The late Bob Hopereply 11808/21/2012

Bye Phyllis.

Rest in Peace.

by The late Bob Hopereply 11908/21/2012

I also never found Diller's stand-up amusing but there's no doubt she was a trailblazer and was a great guest on talk shows. I had seen her at John Wayne airport several years back when she was flying to Vegas for a gig. She was in a wheelchair and looked very frail so I'm also surprised she held on as long as she did.

While she was a product of her times, she was also sensitive to cultural issues. She had a gig in NYC shortly after the Central Park "wildings" and she included a joke about how she could run through the park naked and not be touched. She was booed and removed the joke.

by The late Bob Hopereply 12008/21/2012

[quote]Oh well I guess unless you're a lez or insane you don't count.

You don't count, what's your excuse besides being a cunt?

by The late Bob Hopereply 12108/21/2012

Well, RIP, my dear. You truly were a one of a kind...

by The late Bob Hopereply 12208/21/2012

I'm with r79. I understand that she was a trailblazer for women in comedy, and by every account she was a lovely lady... but I never found her funny in the least.

I much preferred Totie Fields.

by The late Bob Hopereply 12308/21/2012

Its funny how no one mentions this poor lady for decades, then when she dies, people say, "she will be missed".

What's up with that?

by The late Bob Hopereply 12408/21/2012

R124, you're unawareness of Diller's influence and the respect felt for her doesn't mean anything. No one expects the clueless to realize anything until its broadcast at them for 24 hours straight with blinking lights and sound effects blaring. And then, like you, they say, "Huh? Who? Huh?"

by The late Bob Hopereply 12508/21/2012

[quote]Its funny how no one mentions this poor lady for decades, then when she dies, people say, "she will be missed".

Rosie did an hour long tribute to her this year and she was a guest on Roseanne's Hawaii reality show. She was mentioned.

by The late Bob Hopereply 12608/21/2012

For many, the "mind's world" is filled with people we know are alive even if seldom seen. When one of these people pass away, they are missed as though seen everyday. Too bad there are sour puss posters who have no concept or appreciation of this very large piece of our humanity.

Yes, Phyllis will be greatly missed by many even though she's been less seen as she aged.

RIP lovely Lady.

by The late Bob Hopereply 12708/21/2012

R125, R126 and R127.

Gentlemen, you mis-interpreted my post.

As a child of the 60s and 70s, I certainly remember her well and appreciate her brand of humor.

What I meant to convey is the idea that when a previously famous person dies, many people who werent even aware of that person's talent come out of the woodwork and say "how untimely his or her passing was".

Its like when someones relative dies and another relative who hasn't seen the deseased in 40 years feigns false sorrow at their passing.

Thank you for allowing me to clear up this false perception

by The late Bob Hopereply 12808/21/2012

Phyllis was one of the few comedians of her era that was not miserable off-stage. She was generally happy, well adjusted, and highly intelligent, btw.

That being said, I loved her, hated her dated humor. Even in the 1960s.

by The late Bob Hopereply 12908/21/2012

Give it up already, r128.

by The late Bob Hopereply 13008/21/2012

I just heard Phyllis died during childbirth and both she and her 60 year old fetus didn't survive. If it had survived, Freda/Freddie fetus would have been eligible to collect her death benefits and her full social security until age 26 if it remained in college. Since the taxes on her cottage is likely well over $50.000. a year, that really wouldn't have helped very much.

by The late Bob Hopereply 13108/21/2012

It doesn't get campier than this.

by The late Bob Hopereply 13208/21/2012

She was funny, but sometimes (certainly not always) I thought the one liners were sort of lame.

BUT, she could sell a joke. Her delivery, voice, character could make you chuckle, even if the actual joke wasn't that great.

by The late Bob Hopereply 13308/22/2012

I just love the What's My Line? clip of her appearance on the show, relatively early in her career.

You have to realize that no one looked like that or dressed like that back then. She was utterly outrageous.

by The late Bob Hopereply 13408/22/2012

Trust that pill, Dorothy Kilgallen, to whisper Diller's identity to Sammy Davis Jr. and cheat the audience out of what might have been a funny exchange between the two. Gamesmanship always came before showmanship with Dorothy. She'd rather nip the fun in the bud then let the game go on and risk having Arlene or Bennett guess correctly before her turn came round again.

by The late Bob Hopereply 13508/22/2012

R134 you make a very good point. I remember she was interviewed around 6 or so years ago, and she said I don't dress off the wall anymore because now that is the norm.

BTW, she also said that she thought if a comedian swears, is crass, and vulgar in his or her act, then he or she are not that talented and what they call funny is a cop out.She said anyone can swear on stage ,but it takes talent to produce material that is cleaver and make yourself laughable to the audience. I think she was friendly to a lot of these comedians now a days who are crass and vulgar for example, Rosanne. But, I bet she didn't agree with their comedic acts.

by The late Bob Hopereply 13608/22/2012

She was on a talk show years back where she critiqued young comedians. One bit of advice really stuck out: She said all comics should stop asking the audience how they're doing and just start telling jokes. A young Marsha Warfield was one of the comics and Diller roared with her famous laugh when she began with "I'm Marsha Warfield and I'm a virgin." Diller said "You're a star."

by The late Bob Hopereply 13708/22/2012

I always got her confused with Madame from Wayland&Madame .

by The late Bob Hopereply 13808/22/2012

Phyllis Diller became famous relatively late in life. Early in career she was unsure her new-found success would last. Such was her insecurity that when she was filming her sit-com THE PRUIITS OF SOUTHHAMPTON, she took a great deal of abuse from an openly disrespectful woman of the production staff. Only years later did she realize that, as the person whose name was above the title, she could have easily had the bitch fired.

She also related how the director of that show wanted her to lie on her back with her legs sticking out beneath an enormous old car that was propped up on blocks. She refused to do it. The director offered her a shot of liquor for false courage. Luckily, that only made her more resolved not to do it. As they shot the scene without her, the car fell off the blocks and crushed the dummy that had been inserted beneath it in her place.

It's too bad they didn't simply make a sit-com about an average American housewife who happened to be Phyllis Diller. That might have been a classic, anticipating ROSEANNE by decades. The concept of a rich family who weren't really rich was more dismal than funny.

by The late Bob Hopereply 13908/23/2012

Met her. She was a doll. Would someone start a respectable thread and ditch this OP's crude attempt at whatever.

by The late Bob Hopereply 14012/04/2012

She had to have been gay-friendly if she costarred in a weekly series with uber-queer Grady Sutton.

by The late Bob Hopereply 14112/04/2012

The death of Phyllis really made me cry. Only Dolly Parton will make this happen again. I drove by Phyllis' house at least once a week, in Brentwood in hopes of one day seeing her, but it was never to be. I don't bother driving on Rockingham anymore. Few of her fans knew Phyllis lived just a few mansions past OJ Simpson's now demolished pad.

by The late Bob Hopereply 14212/04/2012

#3?

by The late Bob Hopereply 14312/28/2012
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