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ABC's 20/20 Reports "In Crisis Situations, Black Men Are Eight Times More Likely To Make Heroic Acts Than White Men"

"Hispanic Men are two times more likely to make heroic acts than white men."

"City dwellers are more likely to make heroic acts than rural citizens."

On Friday's 20/20, which detailed the Aurora movie theater mass shooting, they profiled two African American men who chose to save others in danger. One of the young black men helped escort a mother and her two children to safety as he got shot in the leg. Another young black man helped shield two people, one who was shot in the head, behind a door as the shooter approached them.

The show interviewed a white sociologist those profiles. He reported on his study which explored which types of people were more inclined to save others in crisis situations.

Of course, this doesn't negate the heroism shown by white men. These are compelling statistics that run counter to much of what the media tends to tell us about Black and Hispanic men.

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by Anonymousreply 107/22/2012

...and city dwellers are 100 times more likely to ignore a person in trouble.

by Anonymousreply 207/22/2012

R1 = GOP's response to everything... and they consider it a fact.

by Anonymousreply 307/22/2012

Leave it to ABC news to shill this race baiting, tabloid style feces.

by Anonymousreply 407/22/2012

What race is most likely to marry the mother of their children, and raise/support a family?

See how this works? This is bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 507/22/2012

Many white men are total pussies. Oh sure, they can lord over their secretary and show who's boss, put in real conflict situations and they crumble. Seen it many times.

by Anonymousreply 607/22/2012


by Anonymousreply 707/22/2012

[quote]What race is most likely to marry the mother of their children, and raise/support a family?

Race, ethnicity, etc:

Asians, Indians, Arabs (and unlike whites and blacks, they marry BEFORE they have the kid).

by Anonymousreply 807/22/2012

They are a credit to their race!

by Anonymousreply 907/22/2012

R5, When you account for socio-economic differences, it is even. So yes, all bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 1007/22/2012

White men are usually less chauvinist too. There's a good and bad to everything.

by Anonymousreply 1107/22/2012

Does he have any statistics on Asian drivers?

by Anonymousreply 1207/22/2012

Black men are more likely to commit crimes

by Anonymousreply 1307/22/2012

[quote]White men are usually less chauvinist too.

You've never had a job.

by Anonymousreply 1407/22/2012

Whatever. They're probably more likely to be in the vicinity of some drama situation where such heroic acts may be performed.

by Anonymousreply 1507/22/2012

I can't find any sources to this report. And I'm not sure what any of this is suppose to mean. I would be interested in seeing what study he [whoever this sociologist is] drew his information from and what type of experimental set up was used to render those statistics.

by Anonymousreply 1607/22/2012

Italian men are more likely to shield you with their enormous penis.

by Anonymousreply 1707/22/2012

White men ARE pussies. Why do you think they think they need so many fucking guns?

An AK47 to hunt Bambi? Bitch, please.

by Anonymousreply 1807/22/2012

If I'm ever in the middle of a crisis situation, I want to be standing right beside Wesley Snipes

by Anonymousreply 1907/22/2012

Why are a bunch of gay men on a gay message board upset by some stupid report from ABC 20/20? Black guys aren't your enemy? Despite what some of you believe.

by Anonymousreply 2007/22/2012

What R20 said.

Now end of thread.

by Anonymousreply 2107/22/2012

This link should take you to the ABC video.

Btw, I never said no black men commit crime or no black men are cowardly. It's interesting how threatening this post is to some.

by Anonymousreply 2207/22/2012

"Why are a bunch of gay men on a gay message board upset by some stupid report from ABC 20/20? Black guys aren't your enemy? Despite what some of you believe."

Because white man are raised to believe they are superior to non-white men and women in every possible way and as such deserve attention, special rights and privileges. When faced with a reality that shows them to be otherwise, they get very angry, cry "misandry" and some of them buy guns and shoot into crowds.

by Anonymousreply 2307/22/2012

Blackmen also excel at tap dancing.

by Anonymousreply 2407/22/2012

[quote]Italian men are more likely to shield you with their enormous penis.

And beat the shit out of their wives when the mood hits them??

by Anonymousreply 2507/22/2012

Black city dwelling hero:

by Anonymousreply 2607/22/2012

It's not "threatening", OP. It's just that people can smell bullshit from several miles away. Statistics like these are meaningless, IOW, bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 2707/22/2012

A less provocative title would have served you better, OP.

Surely you realize where you are.

by Anonymousreply 2807/22/2012

We ALL know what race of men has the market cornered on SERIAL KILLING, right???

by Anonymousreply 2907/22/2012

[quote]Blackmen also excel at tap dancing.

Blackmen? Steve Blackmen? He taught me the Larry Craig two-step.

by Anonymousreply 3007/22/2012

No, r27, it's not meaningless in a country where racists spout derogatory accusations at blacks and Hispanics every day.

There are thousands of people who believe George Zimmerman had every right to chase after Trayvon Martin because of what he looked like. Watch the ABC clip and tell me that the first black man shown to be a hero looks different from Trayvon. If George Zimmerman saw that guy walking down the street in a hoodie, he could now be dead.

It's not meaningless at all.

by Anonymousreply 3107/22/2012

It's true. I think it has to do with the fact that most black men have less to lose.

by Anonymousreply 3207/22/2012

What about Todd Beamer?

by Anonymousreply 3307/22/2012

[quote]No, [R27], it's not meaningless in a country where racists spout derogatory accusations at blacks and Hispanics every day.

Derogatory accusations don't make meaningless statistics valid. I'm sorry if you can't understand that.

by Anonymousreply 3407/22/2012

R34, just because you proclaim it's meaningless, it doesn't make it meaningless to the rest of us. I'm sorry you can't comprehend that.

ABC News reported it. I'm sure if you stomp your feet long enough Diane Sawyer will invite you on just so you can pout.

by Anonymousreply 3507/22/2012

OK, this is totally anecdotal, but... this year I started a new job which happens to be with hetero white men. It is the first time that I am in an office where women are in minority (no black people in the office). What I have noticed is that all these men are passive when it comes to everything except their very own interests. And if it serves them to appear pathetic to please their boss, they have no problem with it. The way they deal with it is, you guessed it, denial. They all believe they're being smart players, and every single one of them is arrogant. Also, they love to make alliances behind each other's back. I have never seen a more incompetent and insecure bunch. Incidentally, they all happen to be either fat or completely out of shape. I have three months on my contract and I can't wait to get out of there.

by Anonymousreply 3607/22/2012

If this is something that can even be measured, I would think it must be because of cultural stereotypes. Black men are supposed to be macho, strong, fearless and therefore, more willing to sacrifice their personal safety to uphold those stereotypes.

They are also probably more likely to have grown up in impoverished neighborhoods with higher crime rates. So they could be more used to threatening situations or escaping dangerous situations. When you've been under fire, you learn how to respond to threats. Also, a large percentage of minorities join the military where they gain knowledge of how to act under duress. All of this is conjecture on my part, though. And it's likely conjecture on the part of the researcher who made this claim.

Before entertaining this idea in regards to this particular event, I'd like to know the racial breakdown of the audience. When the news was initially breaking, there were reports that the shooter was targeting only blacks. Most, if not all, of the deceased are white, aren't they? From the jerky, blurry video I saw, the crowd looked predominantly white. I saw a black man who was bleeding as he exited the theater. But a couple of the white male victims died while shielding others from the gunfire so there's that to consider. Perhaps one could claim that, of the men who shielded people and survived, the majority are black? I don't know.

I just don't know what to think about this kind of research or claim. Race is certainly an important topic of national interest, at least in terms of racism and poverty, etc. But should we be having this conversation as it pertains to this tragedy? I don't know. Maybe we should be talking about how so many of these mass murderers (are they spree killers?) are white men. And why. It can't just be because there are more white people in this country because blacks make up over 50 percent of prison populations while they are only 12 percent of the country's population.

by Anonymousreply 3707/22/2012

I wonder if that asshole dad has the capacity to feel any short of shame.

by Anonymousreply 3807/22/2012

Some of you are so racist.

by Anonymousreply 3907/22/2012

This makes sense.

Yes, other posters have pointed out that there is a subsection of black men who commit crimes, just as there are Latinos and white men.

But I think there are a whole lot more black men whose mommas raised them right and haven't been fucked over by our system. These are the ones I would want around to come through in a crisis.

Don't paint everyone with the same brush.

by Anonymousreply 4007/22/2012

A distinction between heroic acts and basic survival instincts/reactions from fear would be useful in determining something like this.

by Anonymousreply 4107/22/2012

raci$t le$bian troll alert!!

by Anonymousreply 4207/22/2012

[quote] It's true. I think it has to do with the fact that most black men have less to lose.

Okay, R32, how do I have "less to lose"?

by Anonymousreply 4307/22/2012

R43, I think he's trying to say he thinks your life is 3/5 as valuable.

Must be a constitutional originalist.

by Anonymousreply 4407/22/2012

Wasn't there a post on here about a white man abandoning his wife and child while running away?

by Anonymousreply 4507/22/2012

R44, yeah, that what it sounded like to me, too. Talk about racist.

by Anonymousreply 4607/22/2012

[quote]Maybe we should be talking about how so many of these mass murderers (are they spree killers?) are white men.

Shooting sprees like this one require a lot of intelligence in order to plan and carry out, all the while not getting caught. Same with serial killings.

by Anonymousreply 4707/22/2012

Four times more likely to be in jail, Seven times more likely to be on welfare. Fifty percent more likely to be unemployed. Seventy percent more likely to be a high school dropout.

by Anonymousreply 4807/22/2012

Wow, R47. I've seen some sickeningly racist people in my life, but you might take the cake.

Even in cases of savagery, you attempt to highlight the "superiority" of the white ones.

You're a genuinely diseased individual.

by Anonymousreply 4907/22/2012

ABC is so full of shit. Let's see crime rates. Oh. Wait. That would be "racist".

by Anonymousreply 5007/22/2012

[quote]Four times more likely to be in jail, Seven times more likely to be on welfare. Fifty percent more likely to be unemployed. Seventy percent more likely to be a high school dropout.

And, with luck, ten times as likely to murder r48. At least one can hope. You don't deserve to live r48. I wouldn't care what race of man killed you, so long as you aren't here anymore.

by Anonymousreply 5107/22/2012

More white people are on welfare, for the Aryan at R48.

by Anonymousreply 5207/22/2012

I wonder when 20/20 will do a report on the racial makeup of all these wildings?

by Anonymousreply 5307/22/2012

Percentages skew black,R52. By a big margin.

by Anonymousreply 5407/22/2012

What about straight men versus gay men in a crisis situation?

by Anonymousreply 5507/22/2012

Jesus Christ, r47. Are you implying that blacks aren't "smart enough" to carry out such crimes? OK, if you want to generalize, I can do that, too. I choose to believe they're too smart to do something so foolish and heinous.

All I know is that, when I was in the military, I was harassed and threatened daily. I'm a white woman and I worked with men. There were only five women out of 400 men in my unit. About 30 percent were black, 20 percent were Asian and Hispanic and the rest white. You know who harassed me and made my life a fucking, miserable hell for two years? The white men. You know who had my back and protected me? The black guys. They treated me as an equal, gave me opportunities and genuinely respected and supported me. The white men objectified me, treated me disrespectfully, ganged up on me and used me as a focal point for their unhappiness and dissatisfaction.

Now that I think about it, maybe there is some truth to this researcher's theory.

by Anonymousreply 5607/22/2012

Sorry. I meant 8 times more likely to be in jail. I love how people love insupportable foolish studies like this when it comes out for the black man. However, point out real demographic numbers, and for writing the truth you are a racist. No wonder the problems never get addressed. They just get worse.

More white people are on welfare, for the Aryan at

Well you silly colored man there are more people white people on welfare simply because they are more white people. You are able to sate the likelihood of one being on welfare once you analyze the data. Weren't you required to take a simple Prob & Stats course in college?

It really amazes me how people would wish me murdered by a black man because I point out real actual statistics that mean something. That indicate the deep rooted problems in the black community. Plus the statistics I just jotted down are the tip of the iceberg.

by Anonymousreply 5707/22/2012

[quote]Well you silly colored man...

Proves my point exactly. Please don't take anything that racist piece of gutter scum @R57 is vomiting seriously.

by Anonymousreply 5807/22/2012

It was a sarcastic reply to the Aryan remark. And tell me what did I type that was incorrect? Just one thing.

by Anonymousreply 5907/22/2012

OP, you should know that you are not allowed to say anything good about black people, ever. Good things about them are never true, bad things are always true. Blacks have had increased high school graduation rates, college attendance, income increases higher than the national average and so on. But it's not something that should be talked about. We live in a Eurocentric/white supremacist culture and it will continue to be this way for a very long time. The reaction here is telling but not surprising. This "community" has been this way for many decades. But blacks absolutely must support them even though that support is not returned. I really think the obsession with and hatred of blacks is a form of mental illness.

by Anonymousreply 6007/22/2012

This is absolut bullshit!

by Anonymousreply 6107/22/2012

It just means black men are more likely to lie about it afterward.

by Anonymousreply 6207/22/2012

[quote]Make heroic acts[/quote]

What's wrong with act heroically? Don't journalists go to school any more?

by Anonymousreply 6307/22/2012

[quote]Percentages skew black,[R52]. By a big margin.

I doubt you apply this when talking about child predators or white collar crimes, but then, you probably look up to those whose theft costs millions of people their homes and life's savings.

by Anonymousreply 6407/22/2012

Where all my Grammar Queens at?

It's "...Black Men Are Eight Times More Likely To Make Heroic Acts [bold]AS (Are) [/bold]White Men", not "THAN"!

by Anonymousreply 6507/22/2012

I call BS, as soon as the cops in Chicago show up, the blacks and Mexicans all scatter.

by Anonymousreply 6607/22/2012

I can believe it.

If I was in that theater, I would be looking for someone to help cover my body. I'm such a coward when it comes down to it.

But who knows if I was actually there.

by Anonymousreply 6707/22/2012

Are you saying that black men/men of color are not really worthy of the 'hero'label,r41-and are only reacting out of their own fear? Please clarify.

by Anonymousreply 6807/22/2012

I wont confirm OP but I know that by far the most heroic act I have ever witnessed was by a black man (he ran into traffic to guide some crazy homeless guy to the other side). Maybe they produce more adrenaline?

by Anonymousreply 6907/22/2012


The white male pathology of demonizing people because of their skin color should be explored. John Eagan Holmes had everything but chose to be a serial killer instead. Why? Because he had to work at McDonalds,as the media would have us believe? Bitch,Plea!

by Anonymousreply 7007/22/2012

Another high-five for R60.

by Anonymousreply 7107/22/2012

Are you sure about that, R19?

by Anonymousreply 7207/22/2012

[quote] Maybe they produce more adrenaline?

They? Really? They? Jesus.

by Anonymousreply 7307/22/2012


by Anonymousreply 7407/22/2012

I've actually noticed this while watching the local (NYC) news. The few stories I've seen featured where someone displayed a heroic act were black men.

The people they saved from danger were complete strangers to them.

It struck me (because of my own inherent racism, I guess) because I was surprised by this.

by Anonymousreply 7507/22/2012

[quote]I can't find any sources to this report.

Here ya go.

by Anonymousreply 7607/22/2012

Pretty cool, OP - and admirable., White men could learn a lot from this, if they were willing to learn.

by Anonymousreply 7707/22/2012

R73: Oh spare me your false outrage! Only a reactionary moron would think I meant any offence with that. I am acknowledging that 20/20 report may be right and trying to understand why.

It could be cultural or it could be biological. Years ago there was a study that showed that of all the races, black men on average produced the highest levels of testosterone. Which led me to wonder whether black men also produce more adrenaline.

Of course it could also be cultural and something to do with identifying with the "underdog" in a given situation. I dont know either way, just trying to understand it better.

by Anonymousreply 7807/22/2012

ABC's 20/20...well, if it comes from ABC's 20/20 says it, it must be true!

This is just another stupid bullshit study. Just who is this "white sociologist", anyway? And why should anybody take anything he says as the gospel truth? What crap!

These "reports" and "studies" that make the news tend to be dubious fairly often. I remember some study that said if a woman was 35 years old (or something like that) and unmarried she'd have more of a chance of being killed or abducted by a terrorist than getting married. I remember it caused an uproar at the time, and the "study" was later proven to be a load of hooey.

by Anonymousreply 7907/22/2012

What about the study that said R79 eats old people's excrement?

by Anonymousreply 8007/22/2012

It is hilarious the number of you losing your shit over this. Why? How does this affect you in anyway? You know, you can hate black people all you want, but it isn't going to make white people like you any more.

by Anonymousreply 8107/22/2012

Embarrassed that DL threads about black people always draw the worst of the worst. As do threads about women, bisexuals, lesbians, transexuals etc.

I think it has to do with an oppressed group trying to assert their dominance over other groups. Its all about battling for a position on the totem pole. A nonsense battle of course because gay men, no matter their race, are broadly speaking, still the most reviled of groups.

by Anonymousreply 8207/22/2012

R69/R73 Oh so now I'M a reactionary moron because I'm a black man who is offended by your ignoranct racist postings?

Typical clueless white people. Don't even KNOW when they're being racist.

by Anonymousreply 8307/22/2012

Most likely to be insecure? White males by a landslide!

by Anonymousreply 8407/22/2012

Whities are getting defensive.

by Anonymousreply 8507/22/2012

To take this study seriously would embrace the idea that character traits are determined by skin color.

I believe nothing of the sort and it's going to take a study much more rigorous than this one to convince me otherwise.

The idea that one's skin color makes one "like this" or "like that" is a well traveled path in the US, and its one that never turns out good for minorities.

by Anonymousreply 8607/22/2012

-White Guy has seizure, falls onto tracks with a train coming. Black guy got on top of him and came between the guy and the train as it went over them.

-Baby carriage rolls onto tracks. Black guy gets on the tracks and grabs the baby as a train is coming.

Child standing on the a/c falls down. Black guy catches her.

Guy on train gropes a woman. Two black guys grab him and drag him off the train.

You will never see the white assholes in suits helping anyone. They don't even hold the doors for the people behind them.

Are there black guys who are assholes? Of course, but from what I've seen, it's black guys who can be way more helpful in a time of crisis.

by Anonymousreply 8707/22/2012

R86, Amen.

by Anonymousreply 8807/22/2012

For many the study would only be true if it demonized blacks while reaffirming white supremacy. There are many, many people who never want to see the day when blacks are equal or do better than whites. History and politics should make that obvious ( as should the responses in this thread).

They enjoy reading negative things ( and would never protest a negative study about blacks the way they protest this one and many others) about blacks because it reasserts white superiority. They constantly need to be told that whites are better and that whites are superior. And that's what they believe. They've been socialized to believe it.

Not all (I'm primarily talking about people who respond negatively to things like this study), but a good percentage believe these things and many aren't aware of it because these beliefs are apart of American culture. It has always been this way. Saying that blacks are good or better at anything is very threatening to white supremacy. And that's why you get responses like the ones in this thread. This is the state of this country.

by Anonymousreply 8907/22/2012

Things like mass shootings and disasters are so out of the ordinary that there is no way to quantify or test this theory. 20/20 also had the bogus report about how conservatives are so much more charitable than liberals. Of course that study was conducted by a conservative activist.

by Anonymousreply 9007/22/2012

R89, just because it counters institutional racism doesn't make it true. I just don't buy the methodology. Were soldiers and cops measured? What constitutes a crisis? Etc.

by Anonymousreply 9107/22/2012

Another recent one, r87.

A black guy hears the cries of a little girl outside,. He looks throughbthe slats of a wooden fence and sees a man raping the little girl. The black guy climbs over the fence, stops the rape and apprehends the rapist.

by Anonymousreply 9207/22/2012

I think developing for thousands of years in Africa probably selected for people who helped others. That place is inhospitable in the extreme so it would make sense that a "caring" gene would come to the fore.

by Anonymousreply 9307/22/2012

[quote][R89], just because it counters institutional racism doesn't make it true

Threatened much? Oh yes, I think so!

by Anonymousreply 9407/22/2012

R91, what I said stands and I'm not going to argue with you about it. I don't believe that your issue is with the methodology of the study, so please don't try to convince me of that. If the study demonized blacks you wouldn't question the methodology or anything else. I'm too well aware of how deeply rooted white supremacy is within this society to fall for that or to be that naive. Don't waste your time playing these games with me, I won't play along. You'll be arguing with yourself.

by Anonymousreply 9507/22/2012

I must say I am loving this thread, its good to see people stand up to the fuckery that goes unchallenged on DL.

by Anonymousreply 9607/22/2012

I would have said it was bullshit if it had said white people are 10 times more likely to be heroic. Just more bullshit social science from 20/20, the show that brought you John Stossel.

by Anonymousreply 9707/22/2012

It is junk science in a way, but I say the science experiment is right here in this thread.

This thread alone should be studied by a sociologist.

by Anonymousreply 9807/22/2012

[quote]Maybe we should be talking about how so many of these mass murderers (are they spree killers?) are white men.

Asians be going crazy y'all. VA Tech anyone?

by Anonymousreply 9907/22/2012

The deranged racists are freepers, not fairies.

by Anonymousreply 10007/22/2012

I'm mixed so maybe I wouldn't get it, but I don't understand why so many people are so insecure about this study. It is what it is. It's not an attack on White men, or White people.

I'm taking this study with a grain of salt, but I will say that, when you've grown up seeing/dealing with/hearing/etc. horrible things, there is less fear factor, and sadly, black/Latino individuals tend to grow up in situations that are significantly less safe, we tend to have to take care of ourselves at earlier ages. There is more of that fighting instinct because Black and Hispanic individuals are most certainly disadvantaged in our society. Also, there is more of a "do for me, I'll do for you" bonding, IMO, with black/Latino people. At the end of the day, we stick up for each other, because we have to, and that's something that sticks with us.

That's my opinion, but ultimately, we're all human. It's pathetic people would make such a big deal over anything regarding skin color, as if that matters any. That goes for people on all sides. It's sad.

by Anonymousreply 10107/22/2012

It's true!!! In many Hollywood movies the black guy dies to save the white folk!

by Anonymousreply 10207/22/2012

Interesting, r56. I was also a female in the military and found the same to be true.

All the he-man woman haters seemed to be white, while the black, hispanic, and asian males were a lot more welcoming. The black males, in particular, would tell other guys to lay off when they'd get out of hand with the women. My white male friends tended to keep their heads down and be quiet when someone hassled me.

by Anonymousreply 10307/22/2012

I forgot to add, that I've also had gay men and lesbians get my back in crazy situations over the years, too.

I think there might be something to the underdog theory. We're okay upsetting the status quo, while straight, white males aren't prepared to rock the system that works so well for them.

by Anonymousreply 10407/22/2012

Whoops, that should have been r103.

by Anonymousreply 10507/22/2012

So 20/20's junk science is gospel so long as it is pro black?

Another 20/20 study -

by Anonymousreply 10607/22/2012

What R86 said.

by Anonymousreply 10707/22/2012

Thank you for thought-provoking posts, R101, R56, and R103/R104. All three of you back up your positions with poignant personal stories/rationales, (though R56 & R103/104's are also awful, and sadly unsurprising.)

by Anonymousreply 10807/22/2012

[quote] ABC's 20/20 Reports "In Crisis Situations, Black Men Are Eight Times More Likely To Make Heroic Acts Than White Men"

Is it also true that black men are 13 times more likely to create crisis situations?

by Anonymousreply 10907/22/2012

R108, it seems to me those examples have to do with the prevailing culture and sense of entitlement and power. That doesn't get into innate heroism.

by Anonymousreply 11007/22/2012

R80 = retard with a feces fetish

by Anonymousreply 11107/22/2012

[quote] The idea that one's skin color makes one "like this" or "like that" is a well traveled path in the US, and its one that never turns out good for minorities.

No, not skin color, culture - which can be affected by skin color when the dominant culture is racist.

by Anonymousreply 11207/22/2012

Sure you are, R55.

by Anonymousreply 11307/22/2012

I'm mixed but look mostly white to most people and feel much more comfortable around black people than white peope. In general, I've found black people much more genuine and honest and to have your back in a crisis and white people to be backstabbing phonies. There are exceptions, of course, but if I had to choose, I'd always pick a black friend over a white one.

by Anonymousreply 11407/22/2012

The most widely-held stereotype in the world is that racists tend to be white men. Lots of you are living up to that cliche tonight.

by Anonymousreply 11507/22/2012

[quote]No, not skin color, culture

I didn't realize black culture was monolithic.

by Anonymousreply 11607/22/2012

That story is almost exactly the same as what happened when that big,red headed white guy caught Jerry Sandusky raping a ten year old kid in the showers,r92. We all know what he did-he says he slammed the locker doors to make his presence known,looked into the eyes of both Sandusky and his child victim-and left!!! He did not beat the shit out of Sandusky,nor did he remove the kid from harms way. he ran away. I will never understand that!

Right now on Dateline,they are interviewing a young black man and his father,who both risked their lives to save his son's(white)girlfriend-the father even threw his body across hers when the bullets were fired. That's a REAL man,a true hero.

by Anonymousreply 11707/22/2012

R116, only in Datalounge Land.

by Anonymousreply 11807/22/2012

3 white guys died shielding their girlfriends.

by Anonymousreply 11907/22/2012

White guys, if they attempt to save anyone but themselves, will do so for someone they know. Note, all the white guys in this instance saved their girlfriends...not strangers or other humans in need...but someone they knew.

by Anonymousreply 12007/23/2012

Ok for people saying White men are getting defensive, what about other stats that show that black men are more likely to commit violent crimes and murder? And more likely to rape? And more likely to have HIV/AIDs? And have lower IQs?

Is it okay to start talking about these now?

by Anonymousreply 12107/23/2012

[quote]I'm mixed but look mostly white to most people and feel much more comfortable around black people than white peope. In general, I've found black people much more genuine and honest and to have your back in a crisis and white people to be backstabbing phonies. There are exceptions, of course, but if I had to choose, I'd always pick a black friend over a white one.

Reverse "black" and "white" in your post and people would be calling you a racist.

by Anonymousreply 12207/23/2012

People are commenting r121 because it is something silly to get defensive over. It has nothing to do with your racist tripe.

by Anonymousreply 12307/23/2012

You and your friends always bring up those stats, r121. Don't act as though this is something new. As others have pointed out, any time something positive is said about blacks in relation to whites, it prompts your reaction of anger and blame. Right on cue.

by Anonymousreply 12407/23/2012

Fine then, black guys are more likely to be heroes, rapists and murderers. Sounds cool to me.

How do they even measure this stat by the way? Is there some sort of hero registry that shows race?

by Anonymousreply 12507/23/2012

When I read this item, my first thought was "bullshit" too. Then I started thinking back, and although my own memories are by definition anecdotal and not a scientific study, I have a good bit of experience with dangerous, high stress situations, and I have to say I think it is true that black people in general are more likely than white people to come to the aid of a stranger. I am not talking about first responders who are trained to do so, but rather regular citizens who just jump into danger to help someone else they do not know.

I saw a black guy stop his car on a bridge to help two cops save a white, homeless guy who was dangling over the ledge.

by Anonymousreply 12607/23/2012

What about the Chinks and Japs?

by Anonymousreply 12707/23/2012

[quote]I'm mixed but look mostly white to most people and feel much more comfortable around black people than white peope. In general, I've found black people much more genuine and honest and to have your back in a crisis and white people to be backstabbing phonies. There are exceptions, of course, but if I had to choose, I'd always pick a black friend over a white one.

A few years back when I was knew to DL, someone posted that, based on his interactions with "friends" and colleagues, he'd resigned himself to the fact that white people are incapable of any form of meaningful loyalty. I've never forgotten that post because it rang so true to me.

by Anonymousreply 12807/23/2012

It's what I understand "soul" to be. A depth of feeling, loyalty, courage. I believe America is blessed to have so much African blood in the mix.

by Anonymousreply 12907/23/2012

R129, I'm in total agreement with you. Black people make America a better place. We may have issues on occasion, we may fight each other, but all-in-all they are a blessing to this country.

by Anonymousreply 13007/23/2012

"he'd resigned himself to the fact that white people are incapable of any form of meaningful loyalty"

yeah tell that to all the colored children who have no idea who their father is.

by Anonymousreply 13107/23/2012

[quote]Okay, [R32], how do I have "less to lose"?

Straight white men usually vastly overestimate their own importance and therefore value their life more compared to general welfare of the community.

by Anonymousreply 13207/23/2012

I am biracial, and agree with r128, even though my partner is caucasian. African American people are more blunt. If they don't like you, they let it be known. While this may be uncomfortable if you are disliked, it is a hell of a lot better than someone talking shit behind your back. I had a conversation with my partner's mother about the way she talks behind people's backs (including mine) and she said "I wouldn't say those things to someone's face because I don't want to hurt their feelings". It never occurred to her that she should say nothing, or talk to the person that she has a problem with. It seems that midwestern Caucasian people are worse with this mentality.

by Anonymousreply 13307/23/2012

I agree with r133. At work we have these factions of people who hate each other, but face to face you would think they were best friends. It is so fake and dysfunctional because they won't address the truth head on and face to face. Black people will let you know when they don't like you. which can be uncomfortable but honest.

by Anonymousreply 13407/23/2012

Some of you people are fucking idiots, what race is more likely to cheat on their fucking wives you moron?

by Anonymousreply 13507/23/2012

R129 and R 130, thank you. You've made me tear up. I am so used to reading the most awful things on this board about black people, I was shocked to see your comments. I've never been thanked in that way before.

by Anonymousreply 13607/23/2012

Black Southerner, I'm a gay whiteboy expat living in the whitest part of Europe. Black folks, their realness, kindness. and awesome culture are the only things I miss about America. A third big thank you.

by Anonymousreply 13707/23/2012

R136--It is sad that the bigots are so much more likely to speak up.

by Anonymousreply 13807/23/2012

Sending you a virtual breakfast feast of grits and grillades, salmon croquettes, cathead biscuits, and sweet iced tea with mint leaves.

For dinner: virtual smothered pork chops or seven steaks, with candied sweet potatoes in rum-bourbon sauce, mustard greens, more cathead biscuits and sweet tea with a soupcon of bourbon added.

Mama's virtual sweet potato-pecan pie for dessert. Don't worry, it's not set-your-teeth-on-edge sweet.


by Anonymousreply 13907/23/2012

Yum. And calorie-free cause it's virtual.

by Anonymousreply 14007/23/2012

I agree with R136. One gets so used to reading about how horrible you are that it's shocking to read kind messages. It's nice to be reminded that there are kind people with good hearts who don't hate you for being born. Thank you.

by Anonymousreply 14107/23/2012

And I think that's really OP's reason for beginning the thread, but you know, it was provocative and not handled delicately. Sad that it has to be, but you see what happened.

by Anonymousreply 14207/23/2012

...this must be why black males almost always fight ten on one. Heroes my a$$

by Anonymousreply 14307/24/2012

Ooooh, sweet potato pie sounds good right now.

by Anonymousreply 14407/26/2012

When the shooting cleared there were Black, White and Hispanic heroes, defined as those who put themselves at considerable risk for others, some sacrificing their lives. We can conclude a couple of things from the 20/20 report. It was meant to pursue an agenda, which is typical for all Network news, in this case the liberals, and it was premature as it assumed the hypothesis is correct and had been "proven". As a scientist, the actions of those in the theatre did not support this hypothesis. So, unless the "scientist" tells us his methodology and can prove with real scientific facts, then I am going to assume he is wrong. Even if he is right, it was wrong to show it. 20/20 showed this inappropriate piece to support its liberal bias and jumped to conclusions about the heroes in that theatre. Funny, but I did not see anyone else showing this tripe again.

by Anonymousreply 14507/28/2012

In a precursor to the ABC show, "What would you do?" 20/20 went to New Rochelle, New York and staged a child kidnapping on a main shopping street. I don't know about white guys, but an Asian guy who witnessed a man grab a screaming kid, picked up his own kid and ran in the opposite direction. Then two young guys -- a black and a Latino -- saw what was happening and ran at the staged kidnapping with such force and rancor, the producers had to run out and point to the cameras.

Those kids were going to take that kidnapper down.

I remember an interview with an Army officer who was a bit befuddled about the young cadets entering West Point. Part of their warrior training is boxing, and he realized that none of his charges had ever been in a fight. We no longer allow our middle class kids to partake in fisticuffs, so there was a class full of cadets who would one day lead our armies in war ad they didn't have a clue about fighting.

No one cares what poor kids do to each other so they are the only ones to leave their teens with a background in fighting, so have more confidence in themselves and in what they can do when a situation goes south. All men used to have this, but now only those middle and upper class men who go into the military learn it. Even then, most fall back on catty and feminine styles of battle, in the workplace and in public. It's not that they all lack courage, it is merely that they are being denied experience.

Notice the military fellows had no problem jumping into protective mode that extended beyond themselves.

by Anonymousreply 14607/28/2012

That actually makes sense, r146. Perhaps it is a socioeconomic issue, rather than one of race, in this instance.

by Anonymousreply 14707/28/2012

Orange 5 Verified

by Anonymousreply 14803/20/2013

It would be interesting to see who funded this "study".

by Anonymousreply 14903/20/2013

Thats enough for me...NO MORE 20/20 for me and everyone else I talk won't be hard...most are already sick of the media anyway..... almost no one listens to "main stream" media anymore... could they be any more obvious on how bought and sold they are?

by Anonymousreply 15003/20/2013

I have seen bravary(as it pretains to people outside of your immediate family many times performed by both white and black ) I am black .

*People tend to think "what do i have to lose if i get involved? rich people sometimes are not willing to risk a lawsuit because of thier wealth?

*You have to be a loving person who put others safety before your own.

it is unfair to colorize heroism ; because white men and black men, ie good policemen, firefighters, and you everyday heros come in ALL COLORS.

BRAVERY IS NOT A COLOR , we need to stop pitting white against black all the time .

by Anonymousreply 15105/10/2013

Black american men are incredible hypocrites they abandon their kids and community yet rush to save 'Miss Anne' ask any BM that you know, when was the last time he defended a Black woman or child? They hate their kids and women cause their fathers left THEM. Black america is a shit hole look at the men, their kids reflect the dysfunctional standards.

by Anonymousreply 15205/10/2013

The reason this happens is because racism causes white people to be desensitized to human suffering and to act selfish ways. The price of being an racist is that you loose some of your humanity.

by Anonymousreply 15310/20/2013

The study said black PEOPLE, men and WOMEN, not just black men. Sexist much?

by Anonymousreply 15410/21/2013

Every white person is cold and selfish. I have never met a warm white person. They are all dead inside and filled with hate. My grandmother called them "the devil race." No offence.

by Anonymousreply 15510/21/2013

I believe this.

The two times I had car trouble in out of the way places - the only guys who stopped were black guys. One was an old black guy with his wife, another time it was a young black guy on a motorcycle.

And yes, I called AAA, but the first time it was in Gary, IN and I had a flat and the old man told me to hurry up and get out of that neighborhood and helped me change it. The second time I was rural Illinois trying to find some house and I got a flat and my spare was flat. He gave me a ride into town. White people just sped by both times.

by Anonymousreply 15610/21/2013

Maybe African Americans are just more quick witted, aware and competent then their white countrymen.

And braver...and stronger.

And more helpful.

by Anonymousreply 15710/21/2013


LOOK AT BLACK AMERICA then tell me how heroic the men are, jeez. Are you people blind deaf and dumb???

BM, as I wrote above can be incredible racist hypocrites, unprotective towards their own race but in a hurry to serve 'massa'.

by Anonymousreply 15810/21/2013


by Anonymousreply 15911/19/2014

[quote]Maybe African Americans are just more quick witted, aware and competent then their white countrymen.

Oh, drear.

by Anonymousreply 16011/19/2014

Black men are 99999 times more likely to commit a crime

by Anonymousreply 16111/19/2014

Seems many are trying to make white men the demon. Awful. Racist.

by Anonymousreply 16211/19/2014

..Funny, race is no longer aloud to be brought up, unless it's to knock white people. Such hypocrites.

by Anonymousreply 16311/19/2014

Does somebody resurrect this thread every autumn, in anticipation of Thanksgiving ("Thank God I am/ am not a White Man!") or something?

Come to think of it, there's a lot of resurrection going on here today. Is someone who's too cheap to pay $18 searching out threads on subjects he wants to push?

by Anonymousreply 16411/19/2014

Hands up: Who's shocked that R163 is both racist and an illiterate moron?

It's pretty much a requirement.

by Anonymousreply 16511/19/2014

[quote]White men are usually less chauvinist too.


Bitch, five minutes on DL alone blows that theory out of the water.

Won't even mention salary discrepancy and promotions.

And this doesn't mean I think any other race is better or worse, but you're a fucking idiot. I hope you've come to your senses in the years since your stupid ass first wrote this.

by Anonymousreply 16611/19/2014

[quote]Because white man are raised to believe they are superior to non-white men and women in every possible way and as such deserve attention, special rights and privileges.

But it ain't the truth. It ain't actual.

by Anonymousreply 16711/19/2014

[quote]Because white man are raised to believe they are superior to non-white men and women in every possible way and as such deserve attention, special rights and privileges.

It's pretty much why they whine that everything is pc. Their sense of entitlement makes them believe that they should be allowed to say/do whatever the fuck they want without being called out for it. They're not accustomed to being challenged on their bullshit.

by Anonymousreply 16811/19/2014

[quote]It's pretty much why they whine that everything is pc. Their sense of entitlement makes them believe that they should be allowed to say/do whatever the fuck they want without being called out for it. They're not accustomed to being challenged on their bullshit.

They can take everything they dish out. If they keep dishing it out, they're going to have to take it in return.

by Anonymousreply 16911/19/2014

Why are you stupid racist cunts on DL at all? Go back to the Stornfront and Freeper shitholes where you belong.

by Anonymousreply 17011/19/2014

heroes come in all colors

by Anonymousreply 17106/06/2015

black men are inherently more disable.

by Anonymousreply 17207/28/2016

Blacks have faster reaction times, partly because you are generally on your toes and aware of surroundings as a minority.

by Anonymousreply 17307/28/2016

Simply because they put themselves in the way of fire in the first place.

If you live in the hood and shoot people, you're gonna get shot at. If someone is returning your gunfire and you push someone out of the way, it's "heroic."

Of course it'd be more heroic, to follow the law, go to school and earn a decent living so your kids wouldn't be exposed to those things in the first place.

So, no, they do NOT do more heroic acts, they're just at the scene of the crisis more.

Like Saffy said: "You live from one self induced crisis to the next."

by Anonymousreply 17407/29/2016

White people know how to mind our own damn business!

by Anonymousreply 17507/29/2016

It's because the African American culture still expects its men to act in a manly fashion, such as: speaking with bass and authority, walking with strength and confidence, and responding to alarming events without trepidation. We nickname it as "swag."

White American men were raised in the same fashion decades ago, but this has been dying out for them, being replaced by softness and timidity, which doesn’t work favorably in times of crisis.

by Anonymousreply 17607/29/2016

So many trying to discredit this study. If it said white men were more likely, this thread would have 30 posts. Most would click, read and move on living vicariously through a study that doesn't reflect their cowardly, meek life at all. But if it says something good about white people it must be true!

by Anonymousreply 17707/29/2016

Low impulse contro l(aka "flava" " swag" etc) is not something to be proud of generally. It as likely -- if not much, much more likely -- to be CAUSE of these violent events than in countering them.

by Anonymousreply 17807/29/2016

Yesterday, a mexican in California snatched a little mexican boy from his mother. Another mexican gave chase and rescued the kid, and a third mexican tackled the suspect and held him for police.

So, how do we apply this "rule"?

by Anonymousreply 17907/29/2016
by Anonymousreply 18007/30/2016

The most insightful contribution to a thread Award goes to r180

by Anonymousreply 18107/30/2016

I had a similar experience to that reported by R156. I am a white girl. A few years ago I had a flat tire in a not so great neighborhood. My elderly (and unfortunately racist) mother was with me at the time and became nervous when a group of young black guys approached our car. They offered to change my tire. I had already called AAA and was just waiting for the truck to arrive. In the end my mom shared her cigarettes with the guys and we all spoke affably with one another until the AAA dude arrived. Not a single white person stopped to help me and my mom. I have had other experiences of black folks helping me while I was soundly ignored by white people who were also present and in a position to render aid; the whites just choose to look the other way.

by Anonymousreply 18207/31/2016
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