R115, I already mentioned the great George Martin up thread.
As for you, R111:"You're drawing a very long bow to try and argue that The Beatles and Stones (are you a Mojo reader?) are responsible for raising the quality of pop and rock music forever thereafter. The Stones just recycled what blues and r&b musicians had been doing for years. Considering musical taste is entirely subjective, you sound like a crusty old baby boomer fanboy insisting that anyone who doesn't appreciate the GENIUS of the Beatles must be dim. Maybe we're just not as sheltered, mainstream and whitebread in our tastes as you are"
Whitebread? Ha-ha, you haven't got a CLUE, you also ASSUME I am mainstream and sheltered? You think you can figure a person out from a few posts on a message forum? How sad. It's always best to argue about any subject when you have actual facts to back it up, you come here with assumptions about a poster from few posts?
First off, even though The Beatles had mass appeal, they were hardly a mainstream band, this shows how clueless YOU are. They were an innovative band during time when there was such utter crap on the radio, besides Motown, R'n'B and American girl bands such as the Shirelles etc....there really wasn't much going on in American pop music to get anyone excited.
The Beatles broke into the mainstream, not the other way around! Everything about them was different and extremely exciting, I'm not even a huge Beatle fan, yet I can still acknowledge their importance to music!
MOJO? I no longer read ANY rock music magazines (I used to read RS when it was an important and relevant when it was actually a newspaper, Melody Maker, NME, CREEM, CIRCUS and many other now defunct music publications)...I do not form my musical opinions through what a music critic writes about a band or a musician, I have my own ears and eyes. I listen to many different types of music, not just rock.
I come from a musical and artistic family. My dad, though a commerical artist, played guitar and my grandparents would have music jams every weekend. Two of my relatives were jazz musicians, another was a session guitarist, another a touring/session background vocalist and an uncle was a music producer. I think I know much more about actual music than you do, having been exposed to many types of music since I was a small child!
You also seem to forget, the British rock/blues bands such as The Rolling Stones, The Yardbirds, The Small Faces (the original line-up with Steve Marriott), The Kinks (Jimmy Page played lead of many of their hit records, he wa san in-demand session guitarist before Zep fame), the original Fleetwood Mac (the Peter Green version), Julie Driscoll/Brian Auger, Led Zeppelin and so many others who were doing British blues and played a harder type of rock than The Beatles played when they initially became famous, presented the blues in a whole new package to their young audiences, these guys and girls were HOT, CUTE, YOUNG and SEXY.
Not many music fans, especially young females, would have been screaming and getting hysterical over an old grizzly looking, though talented, old black man strumming a guitar and you know I am 100% correct about that.
It wasn't so much that these British blues bands of the 1960s were doing something new, their presentation was new and their re-interpretation of the blues was fresh, that got peole interested.
It took these bands to get young people interested in pursuing old blues recordings of Robert Johnson, Bessie Smith and many other long forgotten blues artists.
Janis Joplin introduced her audience to the blues. There is no denying any of this, sorry that you a too narrow minded to get any of this. You'd just rather sit back and name call for no other reason, other than you not having any valid background information about most of what is being discussed here.
To be continued....