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The Golden Girls vs Designing Women

Which is your fave? Did Linda-Bloodworth Thomason rip off Susan Harris's idea of four close female best friends? The DW characters even shared similar traits of the GG (airhead, outspoken, self-centered and caustic).

by Anonymousreply 6104/27/2015

Looks great. I can't wait.

by Anonymousreply 407/08/2012

r3= Bernice

by Anonymousreply 507/08/2012

I prefer Designing Women with the original cast but Golden Girls has held up much better.

by Anonymousreply 607/09/2012

I posted last week that I recently tried to watch "Designing Women" but couldn't make it through all the seasons. The preachiness and sappiness got to be too much, and a lot of the dialog wasn't that funny. Sometimes they'd ramble 'til they got to the punchline, but by the time they did I kinda forgot what they'd initially started with. Julia and Mary Jo were guilty of this. Anthony, too, and I never laughed at anything he said, whether he was pretending to be a Pakistani or whatever. I found myself chuckling or smiling once or twice per episode but never LOLing or ROFLing like I did/do with "Golden Girls." It has held up better and is still hilarious and topical. Except for the stock footage, "Golden Girls" looks recent; the film used in "Designing Women" looks dated and very '80s. (The fashions notwithstanding in both cases.)

R2, don't get me started on Dixie Carter's singing. God, was she awful!

by Anonymousreply 707/09/2012

I like both but prefer GG because of the actors. Bea Arthur could read the Declaration of Independence and have me in stitches.

Plus there was the time that Rue did this.

by Anonymousreply 807/09/2012

I will never forgive "Designing Women" for the episode that Anthony is laid up in bed at Suzanne's and she is taking care of him. He says "It's like that movie "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane! And I'm Jane!" That line makes absolutely no sense to anyone who has even passing knowledge of the movie. Stupid.

by Anonymousreply 907/09/2012

Wasn't Blanche the invalid, R9?

Never seen the movie but somewhat familiar with the Davis/Crawford roles.

by Anonymousreply 1007/09/2012

DW at its best was leagues beyond GG. It could be far more cerebral and less insult-driven; the GG writers constantly undercut characters with dumb jokes and cheap shots.

DW's heyday was shorter than GG's, however. Seasons 2-5 are remarkably funny, especially season 4, but the cast change in season 6, coupled with a drastic downturn in the writing and directing, ruined the show. GG had a much longer run of consistently good episodes, and never suffered a cast turnover, which goes a long way toward to sealing its iconic status.

But to answer your question, OP, Linda Bloodworth-Thomason did not rip off Susan Harris, any more than Darren Starr ripped off either show to create SEX AND THE CITY. Aside from four female leads, they're all very distinct in terms of theme, tempo and humor.

by Anonymousreply 1207/09/2012

Never felt the love for THE GOLDEN WHORES. DESIGNING WOMEN, on the other hand, was delicious. Especially once Delta got heavier. The character of Suzanne became more and more outrageous. Alice Ghostley could read the obituaries and make them a riot!

by Anonymousreply 1307/09/2012

Golden Girls 4 Life

by Anonymousreply 1407/09/2012

Golden Girls and Designing Women were just and expanded version of Kate & Allie. Instead of two women you got 4.

Just like Friends, Ellen, Drew Carey were weak versions of Seinfeld.

by Anonymousreply 1507/09/2012

R2, please quit being too lazy to use capital letters. We don't care that it requires extra work on your little device. Be an adult.

by Anonymousreply 1607/09/2012

r13: Eat dirt and die, trash.

by Anonymousreply 1707/09/2012

Golden Girls. Much funnier.

by Anonymousreply 1807/09/2012

I think the humor on Designing Women was much sharper than GG. Also, it seemed to me that the characters on DW truly liked/cared about each other while on GG they just insulted each other constantly: Rose-stupid Dorothy-ugly Blanche-slut. It just really got repetitive. Charlene and Suzanne still make me laugh to this day.

by Anonymousreply 1907/09/2012

Designing Women all the way. Always waited for Julia to get an attitude, and the two, one when she debated some guy running for office, and the other was the defense of Suzanne in the make up room of some pageant and the ending of the rant was, "...and that, Mary Jo (something) was the night the lights went out in Gor-Jah!" I love that episode.

I always loved Golden Girls but DW was more contemporary and relatable for the time it was in first run. I really liked Jean Smart too, always classy looking, along with Dixie Carter.

by Anonymousreply 2007/09/2012

Oh, but the GG did love each other, and it was never more apparent than the last episode.

by Anonymousreply 2107/09/2012

I liked both shows but Murphy Brown was #1.

by Anonymousreply 2207/09/2012

I couldn't stand Julia Sugarbaker; what a self-righteous cunt she was. I hated it when she told off someone, because she never just told them off; it had to be some fucking lecture loaded with overwrought prose, almost like it was written by Pat Conroy.

by Anonymousreply 2307/09/2012

Golden Girls had seven highly successful seasons. The entire cast won Emmies. Golden Girls has never been off the air. Even today, you can find it playing on two different stations at the same time. I think the cast changes on Designing Women just killed the show, even though there was a lot of talent there.

Golden Girls was also more ground breaking. Four renowned actresses playing characters celebrating friendships and healthy sex lives after 50. It wouldn't work today even. Today, they'd be cougars dating younger men and trying to stay relevant.

Golden Girls will always be the better of the two, IMO. It's funny - on Golden Girls, they often made jokes about Designing Women.

by Anonymousreply 2407/09/2012

Bingo, R24.

by Anonymousreply 2507/09/2012

DW was far too much Julia Sugarbaker and not enough Suzanne.

GG got the balance right and was more laugh and giggle inducing. It also holds up better.

by Anonymousreply 2607/09/2012

No contest.

'Designing Women' in its heyday with Delta Burke, Dixie Carter, Annie Potts and Jean Smart is classic television with some of the best acting and writing ever on a sitcom.

by Anonymousreply 2707/09/2012

Golden Girls.

Designing Women was good, but it did not hold up over time. and once the original cast started being replaced, it went downhill fast.

GG is still funny today.

by Anonymousreply 2807/09/2012

This thread should have closed after R1. The Golden Girls, no contest.

by Anonymousreply 2907/09/2012

Julia's rants were fun, especially the rare times she stood up for Suzanne. The one that concludes "and that's the night the lights went off in Georgia" is a classic.

by Anonymousreply 3007/09/2012

Best season of "DW" was the 1988-89 post writers strike episodes. Even the darker ones, such as Julia's car-into-newsstand anti-porn protest, were packed a comedic punch that probably couldn't be attempted today. It was jarring to hear Anthony express his disgust over an amputee fetishist mag named "Stump" over a gasping audience/laughtrack.

by Anonymousreply 3107/09/2012

A shot-for-shot remake of the Golden Girls intro, starring the Superfriends!

by Anonymousreply 3207/09/2012

Fucking hilarious!

by Anonymousreply 3307/09/2012

Golden Girls, no contest. It was a funnier, not to mention, a far more socially progressive show. DW always felt very conservative and preachy.

by Anonymousreply 3407/09/2012


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Brian Dennehy is Russell--an overly-optimistic, sometimes dim-witted but fun-loving pet store supervisor. He is a widower and a transplant from Chicago.

Robert Conrad is Blake. Also a widower, he has great sex appeal and he knows it. Originally from New Orleans, he's lived in Florida for close to 20 years. His job at a museum allows plenty of opportunity to meet members of the opposite sex.

Mickey Rooney is Solomon--Dorian's elderly, sharp-tongued father. He comes to stay with the men after his retirement home is closed due to a devastating lawsuit. Lived in Florida for decades with his wife, Sophie, before she died. He often speaks of his late wife, who was the great love of his life.

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by Anonymousreply 3507/09/2012

All the way with Designing Women. It's right up there with The Mary Tyler Moore Show for classic TV.

Golden Girls, mildly humorous, but forgetable.

by Anonymousreply 3607/10/2012

[quote]Golden Girls, mildly humorous, but forgetable.

If you are a gay man, please turn in your gay card at the desk, where it will be cut, burned and trashed instantaneously.

by Anonymousreply 3707/10/2012

The night the lights went out in Georgia is one of the best moments in sitcom TV ever.

by Anonymousreply 3807/12/2012

The UK version of THE GOLDEN GIRLS.

by Anonymousreply 3907/12/2012


by Anonymousreply 4007/16/2012

They are not even in the same league imo. One was a pop culture phenomenon which remains a staple in cable TV. The other no so much.

by Anonymousreply 4107/16/2012

Love both shows fairly equally. I will say, Golden Girls was more consistently funny throughout its entire run, but when Designing Women tackled "issues", it was usually brilliant and very well written. Julia's "Terminator" tirades are some of my very favorite TV moments.

by Anonymousreply 4207/16/2012

Did I get an Emmy nomination as Rose?

by Anonymousreply 4307/19/2012

Never was much of a fan of "Golden Girls" despite the fact that I liked Bea Arther and Rue M. on "Maude" and I loved Betty White on "MTM". I think what turned me off is that they made Betty White's character so ridiculously stupid that it really undercut the plausibility of the whole show. It reached a point where whenever I watched, I would almost roll my eyes every time Betty White's character said anything.

"Designing Women", on the other hand, was absolutely one of my favorite shows, and one of the few sitcoms I've actually enjoyed. The original foursome were four of the funniest women on the face of the earth, and had terrific chemistry with one-another, and the writing was sharp and witty and and frequently very timely. As a New Englander who fell in love with the south when I attended college in Savannah, I appreciated that DW also featured a depiction of a part of the south that we don't often see in TV (not the Hillbilly "Hee-Haw" south, but the elegant, genteel, "old money" south, where people have manners and grace"). If Tennesse Williams had written a sitcom, he would have written "Designing Women".

by Anonymousreply 4407/24/2012

I love "Golden Girls" but it had far too many of those trademark Susan Harris touches I find annoying- the transitional music on all her shows (SOAP, Benson, Empty Nest et al.) sounds like it was by the same cheap orchestra, the overuse of establishing shots, the lack of continuity in consistency in characterizations, overly bright lighting...

by Anonymousreply 4507/24/2012

[quote]The one that concludes "and that's the night the lights went off in Georgia" is a classic.

You should come to JR's in DC on a Sunday night. At some point in the evening, they'll play that clip and every single fangurl in the bar will emote every last line at the top of her lungs while twirling her $1 vodka tonic above her head. It's hi-larious!

by Anonymousreply 4607/24/2012

Designing Women! And please show some class and not bring up race (to the white trash that posted about Anrhony!)

by Anonymousreply 4707/11/2013

If you're gonna make a show about female friends, you need the rule of four.

"The Facts of Life"

"The Goodtime Girls"

"Sex and the City"



"Living Single"


by Anonymousreply 4807/11/2013

DW by a hair. The clincher was the "Ray Don" put-down episode. Brilliant.

by Anonymousreply 4907/13/2013

Yes, R10, Blanche was the invalid. So for Anthony to say that he's the Jane in the situation makes no sense.

by Anonymousreply 5007/13/2013

There's no comparison. TGG begat DW. TGG is also a consistant laugh riot. DW was funny in spots.

by Anonymousreply 5107/14/2013

Golden Girls...not even close.

Golden Girls encompasses all ages, races, you name. My ex, who in his early 20s, would stop everything he was doing to watch 11:00pm back to back episodes.

I could watch the Golden Girls, Seinfeld, The Big Bang Theory and Law & Order SVU 24 hrs a day and be happy.

by Anonymousreply 5207/14/2013

Designing Women--without a doubt. The best. I never cared all that much for Golden Girls.

by Anonymousreply 5307/15/2013

You're in the minority, R53.

by Anonymousreply 5407/15/2013

Lady, you've got bigger problems than lesbians in your sauna!

by Anonymousreply 5507/15/2013

Kim Fung Toi is on Hallmark RIGHT NOW!!!!

by Anonymousreply 5607/19/2013

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by Anonymousreply 5709/21/2014

If we can put a man on the moon we can put a man on you!

by Anonymousreply 5809/21/2014

The Golden Girls. Designing Women had 4 great actresses but in agreement with some of the replies; The Golden Girls holds up better in reruns. The chemistry between the four actresses is so strong and I am a minority on this but the St.Olaf stories are hilarious and weird at the same time.

by Anonymousreply 6004/27/2015

I saved that damn show !!!

by Anonymousreply 6104/27/2015
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