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Leaving the U.S. for Canada

Has anyone seriously considered it? I'm getting tired of being worried about my health insurance.

by Anonymousreply 3406/15/2013

Be aware. Canada is currently governed by a far right wing Evangelical government. They have a strong anti-immigrant policy now. These Conservatives have also started the back door dismantling of the public health care system, a massive increase in military spending and just opened up the foreign ministry for promotion of Jesus worldwide.

Better to go to Sweden, Netherlands, Norway, Germany or Australia.

by Anonymousreply 106/13/2012

I'm with R1 OP - my partner and I are seriously thinking about Australia.

The time to go to Canada passed about 10 years ago. It's now tighter than a vise to get in and to stay there. They don't particularly like Americans and American gays aren't at the top of their list of people to admit.

by Anonymousreply 206/13/2012

They have pretty strict requirements for immigration.

Unless you are a highly-educated and experienced professional in a field where there is a shortage of Canadians able to do that job, you probably won't be able to move there.

I live in Michigan, and there are lots of companies that also do business in Ontario, but for an American worker to do any business in Canada, even if you're just going to be working there for a week, you need to provide a whole mess of documentation that proves that there aren't any Canadians able to do the work.

by Anonymousreply 306/13/2012

They are going anti-refugee, not anti-immigrant - people that might need to escape from other countries. They will increase immigration. But they don't want thinking gay people from the US or Europe. They want people that will buy real estate and vote for the rightwing, and they also want to bring in labourers they can pay less to bring all wages down.

by Anonymousreply 406/13/2012

I can see Stephen Harper stacking Canada with anti-gay immigrants, using skills shortage as an excuse.

by Anonymousreply 506/13/2012

What about Mexico, Mérida in particular? My partner fell in love with it from watching HGTV and wants to retire there.

by Anonymousreply 606/13/2012

Australia? Please. The weather might be nice and the cities cool places to visit but it's pretty conservative and redneck too. Not to mention racist.

by Anonymousreply 706/13/2012

[quote]What about Mexico, Mérida in particular?

It's a telegenic shithole. Don't even consider Mexico.

by Anonymousreply 806/13/2012

If the reason you want to move is because you're worried about your health insurance, then rest assured that you will not meet the requirements to emigrate to Canada.

by Anonymousreply 906/13/2012

Mexico is great if you like martial law and/or lawlessness, a likelihood you'll be kidnapped and beheaded, and shitting your brains out by drinking the water.

by Anonymousreply 1006/13/2012

quote[Mexico is great if you like martial law and/or lawlessness, a likelihood you'll be kidnapped and beheaded, and shitting your brains out by drinking the water.]

Que encanto!

by Anonymousreply 1106/13/2012

Belgium. It's the new Canada.

by Anonymousreply 1206/13/2012

Canada is actively advertising for immigrants in some areas so it's certainly not impossible to get in. The key is to find a job that will offer a positive Labour Market Opinion (i.e. a Canadian cannot fill the job). They have certain skill areas which are in short supply, and lots of blue collar work. Plus, if you're American, you have rights under NAFTA.

As for European countries, they really are pulling up the draw bridges. It's very hard to get into Europe unless you're transferring with your job or you have enough to money to get an investment visa.

It baffles me why someone will say avoid a country because they have a right-wing government - within the next five years the Canadian government may be left-wing again - and then right wing again. What are you going to do? Piss your pants and run across the border every time the government changes hands.

by Anonymousreply 1306/13/2012

[quote]Canada is actively advertising for immigrants in some areas

Where, please?

by Anonymousreply 1406/13/2012

I've considered Australia, but their insects scare the shit out of me.

by Anonymousreply 1506/13/2012

[quote]It baffles me why someone will say avoid a country because they have a right-wing government - within the next five years the Canadian government may be left-wing again - and then right wing again.

My thoughts exactly. I'm a Canadian and I don't like the current conservative government either. But they could very well be out in the not too distant future. History tells us that Conservatives typically rule for one or two terms and then support returns to the Liberals for a few terms until they fuck up again.

Although lately the Liberals have lost a lot of support to the NDP which is even further to the left. So one could argue that Canadians, most of whom support the centre/left parties, are moving even further to the left. Young people in particular seem more in support of the NDP than the fussy old Liberals.

by Anonymousreply 1606/13/2012

Actually, Mexico is seeing pretty strong economic growth, and a lot of places are booming with American retirees. (Don't listen to R10, who must get all his news from Fox.)

In Central America, in places like Panama and Nicaragua, you can get a place on or near the beach for not a lot of money, everything costs pennies, and a lot of the doctors trained in the US. The same is true in places like Ecuador in South America (though not quite as cheap). Obviously places like that aren't perfect, but they're much more welcoming of immigrants than Canada.

by Anonymousreply 1706/13/2012

R14 - Vancouver BC, but only if you're Chinese.

by Anonymousreply 1806/13/2012

If you have had a DUI in the states within the last ten years, you are not permitted to enter Canada. WTF!!!

by Anonymousreply 1906/13/2012

r14, try Alberta.

by Anonymousreply 2006/13/2012

If I did it, I'd choose Brazil or Peru - yes, I'd have to learn a new language and go in treated as a second class twit.

I hope the natives speak loud and slow just like the good old USA.

Plus side: I'd get to keep my winter wardrobe in Peru and I love hats

by Anonymousreply 2106/13/2012

Australia is okay - they even have jobs - but typically they throw your ass out after three years, and there are almost no exceptions.

I think the best bet in today's world is Finland. Socialist, liberal, comparatively easy to get into. You have to get some language proficiency in Swedish or Finnish within a year to stay, but that at least is doable.

by Anonymousreply 2206/15/2012

Like all other Western countries but the US, Canada is only seeking immigrants that can do jobs that there are not Canadians for.

This means if a Canadian can do the job, they won't give it to any other nationality.

They also will let you in if you have a large sum of money (talking millions) to invest in a start up business that will employee Canadians only.

It's only America that allows illegals to stay and has immigration lotteries.

by Anonymousreply 2306/17/2012

[quote]If you have had a DUI in the states within the last ten years, you are not permitted to enter Canada. WTF!!!

There's nothing "WTF" about that policy. We don't want your stupid drunk asses on our roads. We have enough drunk drivers of our own.

by Anonymousreply 2406/17/2012

"This means if a Canadian can do the job, they won't give it to any other nationality."

not true!

by Anonymousreply 2506/17/2012

If only it were as easy for American to get into other countries as it is for Mexicans to get into ours.

by Anonymousreply 2606/17/2012

"Canada is only seeking immigrants that can do jobs that there are not Canadians for"

BULLS*HIT! X 1,000,000

It is about bringing in immigrants who will do the same job for less money. Their are many Canadians who will gladly do these jobs, just not for minimum wage.

by Anonymousreply 2706/17/2012

Apparently, R25 and R27 have never had to deal with all the paperwork associated with having Americans doing work in Canada.

by Anonymousreply 2806/17/2012

I considered it in 2000. I had the 'points' to succesfully do it. But not the other resources required. Plus I absolutely HATE cold weather, snow, and ice.

Now I think I'm too old, and don't really qualify any more.

I think Toronto would be the only place I'd consider. I'd love to live in Montreal, but I don't really speak French, so that'd be a huge problem employment wise (I can muddle-through on a few years of High School french in some ways, but that's hardly enough).

by Anonymousreply 2906/17/2012

I would, but the immigration laws have changed. There's no longer a retirement emigration option, and I don't have enough money to qualify otherwise.

by Anonymousreply 3006/17/2012

If you have had a DUI in the states within the last ten years, you are not permitted to enter Canada. I agree with that.

by Anonymousreply 3106/17/2012

Back in the early 90s I had plenty of points to enter Canada. But as you age they start taking points away!

by Anonymousreply 3206/19/2012

That's pretty shitty, R32

by Anonymousreply 3306/19/2012

Canadian as F**k!

by Anonymousreply 3406/15/2013
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