The thing that led to the Holocaust, among other atrocities.
Is there anything to it?
The thing that led to the Holocaust, among other atrocities.
Is there anything to it?
|by Anonymous||reply 119||01/30/2015|
I never did understand the hatred, like gays and other minorities, generalizations are formed and ignorance flourishes.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||05/08/2012|
Well, you know they got them seven Jew bankers that control the world, don'tcha?
|by Anonymous||reply 5||05/08/2012|
Christianity!!! It laid the foundations, built the building and fertilized the land around it. That's why The Holocaust was possible because the minds were so poisoned already.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||05/08/2012|
R3, read history. Hitler and his party made up the "Jewish Conspiracy" theory as part of his/their justification to wipe them out. This is historial record and laid out very nicely in Mein Kempf (sp?). It is of course complete bullshit. Hitler elorated to include Bolshevics in the conspiracy- they stabbed "pure" Germans in the back within Germany during WW 1 thus leading to German defeat and of course as embodied by the Soviety Union were the mortal enemies of the superior German race. This was why Hitler broke his treaty with the Soviets and invaded them in the most brutal invasion of a country in world history. This was where the mass murder of jews started, by guns over pits, until they decided gasing was more efficient and easier on the killers who had to be distributed vodka to carry out the killings. There never was anything remotely organized in the Jewish banking or trade world in Europe or the United States toward some common goal.
So yeah, you are either very poorly educated, or you are anti semetic. In fact, I cannot believe you even would consider something so ridiculous. It is either extremely naive and mostly very offensive.
You might as well ask, was the Dred Scott decision of the Supreme Court in the 1850s based on facts?
Your post, I am sorry, is one the most idiotic I have come across on DL in a long time.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||05/08/2012|
Grow up r8, that's not funny or factual.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||05/08/2012|
And add R8 to the bigotted core of this thread that should be deleted.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||05/08/2012|
Yup I've read the Kershow (sp) volumes on Adolf Hitler and much much more.
So you do know. He had no intention of going after the United State or even Britain. He tried to make peace with Britain before attacking the Soviets after he lost the air war over Britain. Aside from the Bolshevic Jewish conspiracy he want "living space" for Germany and planned to essentially enslave Eastern Europe to serve the great German "race" and Third Reich. To that end there was massive removal of jews and slavs from their home to be repopulated by Germans, etc etc. But they you know all this.
I guess you decided to drum up little antisemitism on DL for fun looks like. Classy fellow you are- what a broadly based and intelligent quesion you asked in you OP- NOT.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||05/08/2012|
Fucking enough already. It's been a while since I've spotted "I just have an innocent question about Jews" gambit. And it's just as pathetic now as it ever was. Go the fuck away, you fucking troll.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||05/08/2012|
R7 seems to know.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||05/08/2012|
or is it Chernow who wrote those two volumes? OP?
|by Anonymous||reply 19||05/08/2012|
OP, go to Wikkipedia or just Google "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion". This fake book was a statement of the goals of the Jews of the world to retake Zion and from there the world. It was the justification for most anti Jewish activity in the 19th Century and beginning of the 20th.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||05/08/2012|
My bad, published in 1903
|by Anonymous||reply 21||05/08/2012|
OK, OP. I will refrain from calling you a fool and a micro-cephalic, because that's obvious.
If the Jews were plotting to take over the world, it would have happened by now. Looks like all they have is a strip of land on the Mediterranean ...
|by Anonymous||reply 25||05/08/2012|
Boy, R14's post is a real Rorshasch test if ever one existed, isn't it?
|by Anonymous||reply 26||05/08/2012|
If you trolldar this thread, you'll find one person doing a lot of stupid talking.
For once I totally agree with Charlie -- this is not a real thread, it's a jew-baiting thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||05/08/2012|
R15, I am not a New Yorker. What can be found in that location?
|by Anonymous||reply 28||05/08/2012|
don't be an asshole R225, Microcephaly is a disease that nobody earns or deserves.
Ignorance and bigotry as demonstrated by the OP's "innocent question" is hard earned.
Do you think it is easy to go through life harboring resentments and grudges and then "subconsciously" finding a group to attach them to?
|by Anonymous||reply 29||05/08/2012|
Really? Again? Are we going to have blatant Jew porn every fucking day?
IGNORE THIS FUCKER
Go somewhere that people get off on this crap. There are plenty of places for you on the web.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||05/08/2012|
Germany wasn't the center of antisemitism, I just think fascism needed an enemy more than most political structures:
In the United States, Henry Ford sponsored the printing of 500,000 copies, and, from 1920 to 1922, published a series of antisemitic articles titled "The International Jew: The World's Foremost Problem", in The Dearborn Independent, a newspaper he owned. In 1921, Ford cited evidence of a Jewish threat: "The only statement I care to make about the Protocols is that they fit in with what is going on. They are 16 years old, and they have fitted the world situation up to this time." In 1927, however, the courts[who?] ordered Ford to retract his publication and apologize; he complied, claiming his assistants had duped him. He remained an admirer of Nazi Germany, however.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||05/08/2012|
R23- OP- and provocateur of anti-semitism, no matter how much you know- and I have read both authors.
My last post- something is wrong with you. You obviously know the answer to your rhetorically antisemetic question.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||05/08/2012|
What is the Pentateuch? And who cares? As for pinning this on Jews, you need only look to the masterpiece 'cake cutting scene' in Godfather 2. All the different 'tribes' get their piece - Italian mob, Jewish mob, etc. Taking the metaphor globally, you have Yakuza, Colombians, etc, truly sick, exploitive powers the world over. All of the major religions are highjacked. All of them. The people at the bottom - yes that means you - have more to gain by uniting and overlooking PREVIOUS differences.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||05/08/2012|
|by Anonymous||reply 37||05/08/2012|
R7 and R35 have it.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||05/08/2012|
[quote]What about the theory that 90% of the world's Jews today are not descended from the biblical Jews?
Fuck off, you fucking troll.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||05/08/2012|
Fuck off, you fucking troll.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||05/08/2012|
The Pentateuch is the first five books of the Hebrew (and Christian) Bible.
One of the big lies so far in this thread is that the Jews never got along with anyone in history. This is blatantly untrue. The Jews lived under Persian domination without serious incident. They lived in the Hellenistic world as long as their Temple worship was left alone. Before the Crusades and the rise of Europe, the Jews lived within Islam, many happily gathering in Muslim Spain.
The problem was Christianity. When the earliest Christians began to be separated from Judaism, particularly once they were excluded from the synagogues, Christian turned on their brothers. The purported betrayer of their God has a name that literally means Jew! So Christians blamed the Jews for the death of their God. Additionally, during the Middle Ages Christians were forbidden from lending at interest, so they turned to Jews for loans. No one likes their bankers. So magnify hatred based on the Christian origin story (where the Jews rejected the Christian god and the Christian message) by the fact that Jews were the only people who could make loans and you get anti-Semitic crap like "an international Jewish banking conspiracy."
|by Anonymous||reply 43||05/08/2012|
If there's any "Jewish conspiracy", it was created and is perpetuated by rich white Europeans to protect themselves from scrutiny.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||05/08/2012|
It has a lot to do with their involvement in the collapse of the Roman Empire.
The rise of Christianity is essentially the rise of Judaism and it's influence in Western European culture.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||05/08/2012|
|by Anonymous||reply 46||05/08/2012|
I think you mean the rise of the Edomites, R45. Real Jews (I call them 'spirit' Jews) have been ostracized since the rise of the Roman empire. "Jesus" was the Romans' capitalizing in to de facto marginalizing/persecuting Jews, what with the church and all.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||05/08/2012|
No, there isn't.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||05/08/2012|
"It has a lot to do with their involvement in the collapse of the Roman Empire.
The rise of Christianity is essentially the rise of Judaism and it's influence in Western European culture."
Huh? The Roman Empire, for hundreds of years prior to its collapse, in both the East and the West, was Christian. The collapse of the Roman Empire was due to invasions by European and Eurasian tribes that were neither Christian nor Jewish. Once the majority of Western Europe was Christianized, its religious central power was the Roman papacy, and a huge part of its political power, mostly in German and Italian territories was concentrated for many centuries in a confederation called The Holy Roman Empire.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||05/08/2012|
There is definitely a Netanyahu conspiracy. He made a deal with a splinter party to avoid an election where he would be thrown out.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||05/08/2012|
[quote]There is definitely a Netanyahu conspiracy. He made a deal with a splinter party to avoid an election where he would be thrown out.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||05/08/2012|
The correct answer to your question, OP, is: NO.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||05/08/2012|
[quote]One of the big lies so far in this thread is that the Jews never got along with anyone in history. This is blatantly untrue. The Jews lived under Persian domination without serious incident. They lived in the Hellenistic world as long as their Temple worship was left alone.
Diaspora Jews had it rough in Hellenistic Alexandria. More importantly, you leave out the Romans. Not that the Jews didn't have a right to rebel against them. But that really is the relevant context for Christian anti-semitism. Read Rome and Jerusalem by Martin Goodman.
Not making apologies for Christians (I'm atheist), just being realistic.
|by Anonymous||reply 59||05/09/2012|
I think the Jews are despised because they were and still are God's chosen people. It's a spiritual battle, Satan despises them and wants to destroy them.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||05/09/2012|
Parliamentary democracies can schedule elections any time before a certain deadline. A lot worse for Israel's democratic credentials is the way it treats Arabs as second class citizens.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||05/09/2012|
If there even were such a thing as god or satan, r61, that is still preposterous.
|by Anonymous||reply 63||05/09/2012|
Fuck off, you fucking trolls.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||05/09/2012|
R58, you are not Jewish, for sure. Otherwise you would find the OP's proposition horrific.
You a FART? S'pose so. Otherwise wouldn't infantilize me. And you would debate the sense of my proposal instead of attacking me and diverting attention from it.
You Rovians are so special.
I expect another personal attack instead of a discussion of the new thread idea.
I'm ready, R58. Oh, and fuck you and all your lying, dissimulating cohorts.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||05/09/2012|
pardon me, I meant SSpecial, Heinrich.
|by Anonymous||reply 66||05/09/2012|
r24 The Tzar's secret police wrote the Protocols. Do you have any idea how most Russians lived for hundreds of years under those tyrants??? IMO it was very much like slavery in America. In the 19th century it simmered for a long time (as it did in all of Europe). The Tzar needed something to deflect attention and rage and what better than the eternal enemy, the Jew? It was believable because the Church fed that hate for 2000 years.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||05/09/2012|
Shut down this fucking offensive thread.
I hate this shit.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||05/09/2012|
F&F this shit. NOW.
|by Anonymous||reply 69||05/09/2012|
Why wasn't this thread closed immediately? f&f
|by Anonymous||reply 70||05/09/2012|
r53, stop being such an isamaphobe!
|by Anonymous||reply 72||05/09/2012|
r51 is an evil hater!
|by Anonymous||reply 73||05/09/2012|
Is "Jewish world" part of EPCOT or the Magic Kingdom?
|by Anonymous||reply 74||05/09/2012|
Religion: The ongoing battle over who the Sky Pixies like the best.
It is like a childrens morning TV show with real violence.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||05/10/2012|
Most antisemitism is not about religion; its about ethnicity.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||05/10/2012|
R58, the OPs post are a combination of accurate history juxaposed with unhinged language. He's nuts, and he's been absent from this loathsome thread for a while.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||05/10/2012|
WHY DOES THIS THREAD STILL EXIST?
|by Anonymous||reply 79||05/10/2012|
It's easy to demonize "The Other." That's really all you need to know.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||05/10/2012|
R58 is a fucking troll who should fuck off now.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||05/10/2012|
R58, R81... then you cannot read. Suggest you go back and read his posts. Show them to a psychiatrist better yet.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||05/10/2012|
The Arab theory that Ashkenazi Jews are descended from Khazars has so far not really panned out. It's not really disproved, but there is no DNA so far which would confirm it. It is likely that the Khazars converted back to Islam in later centuries. It is unlikely that they migrated to Europe and then were slowly corraled into "The Pale."
|by Anonymous||reply 84||05/10/2012|
On the other hand, the historical stories don't give a good account of how the Pale got to be the primary place of Jewish residence.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||05/10/2012|
Hey, Rovian R58 Heinrich?
Notice you ignored my post. Hope everybody rereads it.
What about me? You never discussed my proposal, FART.
But I noticed you never abused me either. Must've been spot on, my post.
Let me have some scorn, some LOL, like Charlie, who you bullied. Manifest your lovely self, Heinrich. Aren't I the most unhinged on the thread? Your model of serene rationality and good judgment is what we are all waiting to hear. Expound. Keep this thread alive! I love all the indignant responses almost as much as you do. Tell us some of your personal experiences.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||05/10/2012|
If this tread bothers you R79, switch to another one.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||05/11/2012|
With no genuine evidence to prove it, I guess the answer to OP's evidence is no, there isn't anything to the "so-called jewish world conspiracy". It's a fiction deployed precisely to drum up hatred against a religious/ethnic minority.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||05/11/2012|
They have a holiday every single month.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||06/03/2012|
Two Jew-centric threads on the first page of Datalounge? Not a good sign.
|by Anonymous||reply 91||06/03/2012|
R79 it exists because it is interesting.
It has a mix of information and hyperbole which is pretty much like every thread on datalounge.
|by Anonymous||reply 92||06/03/2012|
|by Anonymous||reply 93||06/06/2012|
Political correctness is used to deflect the sad reality.
Look at all the bigotry that goes on daily, because people quote the fictional story book known as the bible, as truth, with the legal support of a perverted US Constitution.
|by Anonymous||reply 94||06/06/2012|
But you could make a bigger list for Episcopalians R95. New York has a high percentage of Jews, so there are a high percent in New York based professions. It doesn't mean Wall Street is "controlled" by Jews; indeed, until very recent times, Jewish firms and non-Jewish firms kept apart and many assimilated Jews converted to Episcopalianism (Belmont, Kuhn, Loeb, etc). They do seem to dominate the movie biz, and with a high level of education are disproportionately represented in many professions. But "controlling" is not the same thing as being well represented in.
|by Anonymous||reply 96||08/27/2012|
[quote]Attempts to hide the truth by "OMG MODERATOR DELETE THIS THREAD PLZ" instead of providing solid arguments.
There are no solid arguments that support a "Jewish conspiracy".
[quote]Typical Jewish behavior,
That says it all right there.
Let's see. Why are there a lot of Jews in banking. Maybe for centuries, that was one of the few areas Jews could make money. Depending on the place, they were barred from owning land, joining guilds (thus, could not have a trade) etc. Since it was forbidden for "Christians" to lend money at interest, the Jews were able to carve out a niche.
Entertainment? The Jews created the movie industry. Most of the early pioneers that created the studios were Jews from NY, either immigrants or the children of immigrants. Did they know anything making movies? No, but they saw a market in the nickelodeons and saw a way to redefine and expand it. This naturally evolved into interest in television.
So take your anti-Jewish bullshit elsewhere.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||08/27/2012|
This thread still alive?
OP is a provocateur-
He might as well have written: Is there any truth to the recruitment of children into the homosexual lifestyle, after all, this point of view has been around a long time, indeed it is practically policy of the Republican party"
The OP tries to equivocate with his knowledge of history- when that knowledge should tell him categorically the answer to his ridiculous question, much less start a serious discussion of history on DL.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||08/27/2012|
Wall Street is pure evil, no question.
|by Anonymous||reply 99||08/27/2012|
This is a horrible, hateful thread. The last paragraph in particular in this article will set you straight:
|by Anonymous||reply 100||08/27/2012|
R95, Many American Jews proudly serve in the armed forces. Look at the facts of how many have died for this country. Also plenty of American Jews support Obama and Hillary Clinton, and a peaceful solution for the Middle East that would benefit everyone. You show your ignorance when you generalize.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||08/27/2012|
OK, I have a question and I don't think "the Jews", whichever Jews OP is talking about, are any more involved in some sort of "world conspiracy" whatever that is supposed to mean; the question is this--For all the money and aid the United States sends to Israel (the "Jewish State" by their own definition) what does Israel do or give in return? I mean, do they send oranges (we grow plenty of those for ourselves)? Do they send troops to help the Americans with their bird-brained military escapades in Afghanistan or even Iraq? Perhaps some of the more reasonable and less hysterical (and I see plenty of that on this thread)people can tell me as I honestly don't know what Israel does or gives in return for all it gets from the US. And please don't tell me it spies for the US because the CIA can do that on its own, they don't need lessons from Israeli intelligence. I'm beginning to think that the way Israel can pay the US back is to offer all expense paid tours of Israel to any US citizen who wants one. I sincerely hope someone can give me a coherent answer to this question.
|by Anonymous||reply 102||08/27/2012|
Joseph Sisco, a former Assistant Secretary of State for Near Eastern and South Asian affairs, once told Israeli author Shmuel Katz, "I want to assure you, Mr. Katz, that if we were not getting full value for our money, you would not get a cent from us."
|by Anonymous||reply 104||08/27/2012|
What r14 said.
How [italic]the hell[/italic] is this thread still here after months?
|by Anonymous||reply 106||08/27/2012|
[quote]I know many jewish people and let me tell you they don't support gay folk. Never have never will.
You don't know shit, unless you know a bunch of Hasidim. For the most part, Jews are very liberal when it comes to gay issues. Much more so than Christians, that's for damn sure.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||08/27/2012|
Sorry but Jews do not support gays. Some say they do. I know Christians that do too. I just don't believe either of them. It's against their doctrine. I don't get why people want to give religions a pass when they clearly don't believe in homsexulality. I think all religions should be held accountable. Not just Christians. That's just PC bullshit. All of them piss me off. I don't do the PC thing. I don't know why anyone would.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||08/27/2012|
There are Gay Reformed Jewish Rabbis. Both the Reformed and Reconstructionist Branches of Judiasm are very open and liberal. There is as much variation of opinions within Judiasm as there is in Christianity; only fools generalize.
|by Anonymous||reply 109||08/27/2012|
[quote]Do they send troops to help the Americans with their bird-brained military escapades in Afghanistan or even Iraq?
If the IDF showed up to fight any Muslim-majority country, Arab or not, terrorists and/or regular troops from other Muslim countries would soon join in the festivities.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||08/28/2012|
Give it a fucking rest.
|by Anonymous||reply 113||11/15/2012|
Our US history classes are very poor in this type of education.
I learned Nazis were bad, Jews were good, the US saved everyone.
Because of our simplistic education questions like this exist and rather than get angry the sane sharing of information is much more helpful.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||11/15/2012|
Why does this thread still exist?
|by Anonymous||reply 116||11/15/2012|
This is a very sick thread- now you know how the hollocaust happened.
|by Anonymous||reply 118||01/30/2015|
R102 Jews serve a host population as a canary in a coal mine and Israel serves the Western world the same way.
Did u want to know anything about how to fight the enemy that came out of nowhere on September 11 2001? Westen military and intelligence knew what little they did by recognizing that Israel has been fighting this enemy since day 1.
Israeli military & intelligence is behind all advances in fighting "terrorism," cuz they were the only ones doing it while the West was banning ethnic profiling in police work etc.
We are their example of democracy and they learn from us how to do it while fighting an enemy that exploits societal commitment to freedom as a weakness. Thus IIRC writer Victor Hanson said he supports Israel because it's the only society in the Middle East where people who wear military medals actually earned them.
But from a real "canary in the coal mine" perspective -- when the enemies of the West have a nuclear weapon they are WILLING & ABLE to use, how will we know?? Answer: they will use it on Israel.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||01/30/2015|