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HBOs "Girls"


by Anonymousreply 25203/15/2015

No thanks. I feel like the show and the fug creator are being foisted on us.

by Anonymousreply 104/15/2012

I liked it.

by Anonymousreply 204/16/2012

I thought it was fun and interesting. I'll definitely keep watching.

by Anonymousreply 304/16/2012

I liked that it's sort of the anti-Sex & The City. I liked imagining the purported hugeness of Adam Driver's hog (a REAL Mr. Big). But for crying out loud, do they all HAVE to be white? Where on earth did they find a white actress named Jemima????

by Anonymousreply 404/16/2012

The criticism about lack of diversity is sort of bullshit. Tons of privileged white girls in NYC self-segregate. (Hell, how many white gays only hang out with other white gays in this city? Quite a few, if not the vast majority.)

by Anonymousreply 504/16/2012

[quote]I liked that it's sort of the anti-Sex & The City.

In a way it is and in a way it isn't. Yes, most people have rich parents who will pay their way through life so that they can have plenty of time to hang out with their friends and complain about how "hard" their life is. True, the mother wanted to cut her off completely, but (SPOILER ALERT) in the end it appeared as if her pushover father came through and left her money to keep up her lifestyle. (Of the reviews I read, only the L.A. Times critic pointed out how these girls really don't appear to be as poor as the creator would have you believe, noting the nice sized Brooklyn apartment they live in.)

Anyway, I actually did like it okay, though I don't get all of the over-the-top raves lavished on it by the critics. And as far as the all-white factor noted by R4, that's okay, too -- I'm black and even I'm tired of the token person of color forced into the cast by high-minded producers and/or network executives who is then left to languish in the background (see Tina on "Glee").

by Anonymousreply 704/16/2012

big girls

by Anonymousreply 804/16/2012

Adam Driver....oy vey!!!

by Anonymousreply 904/16/2012


by Anonymousreply 1004/16/2012

Couldn't they have at least one cute guy in the cast?

by Anonymousreply 1104/16/2012

Oh dear God, not Lena Dunham... and you folks want to bash Lana del Rey for getting some "help" from rich daddy.

This girl is an IHOP waitress who was born lucky. Ugh. "Mommy, call your friends at Criterion and get my cheeseball movie a release. Now. It played SXSW, right, isn't that big time enough?"

At the very least, can she just direct and not "act" anymore? Vomit. Will someone find us some real new movie stars please?

by Anonymousreply 1204/16/2012

What R12 said.

by Anonymousreply 1304/16/2012

I kind of liked that there was an idea and some sense of reality behind this, but I was left with a feeling of "is this all there is?"

I'm not going to bash the lack of diversity because people like this are most likely not going to know very many people of color, but I'm confused as to why the story of the upper middle class white girl in (insert city here) is a story that needs to be told over and over and over and over and over and over again.

When I read these stories about the reemergence of women in comedy (Whitney, Broke Girls, New Girl, this) what they really mean is a reemergence of WHITE women in comedy. And I'm bored with them. I am.

I mean, really. By the time the black homeless guy came in at the very end I wanted to puke. I get it, *these* girls wouldn't have a diverse group of friends, but how about a show centered around the kind of girls that would?

NYC is this thrilling place with all types of interesting people doing cool things, but we're only given a window into the same types doing the same things.

I thought it was clever and interesting to a point, but ultimately not something I'm going to be revisiting on a weekly basis.

by Anonymousreply 1504/16/2012

"Based on the preview and the trailer I saw for Dunham's film TINY FURNITURE, I won't be watching."

That makes sense.

As for hipster girls of that generation, their circle wouldn't be all white. And I don't think the fact that she swiped the tip money for housekeeping in the parents' hotel room counts as bailing her out.

by Anonymousreply 1604/16/2012

I had no idea all of these girls came from famous families. I wonder if the casting was on purpose?

[quote]Meaning, it's easy to outwardly harsh on Girls for one glaring reason: Though the show is about young women struggling in New York, those young women are all played by scions of veritable New York creative royalty. Dunham is the daughter of the well-known artist Laurie Simmons, who let her daughter shoot her breakthrough film Tiny Furniture in the family's stylish TriBeCa apartment and who sent that daughter to the $33,000/year Saint Ann's School in Brooklyn Heights. Dunham knows from broke-assery how, exactly? And her costars! There's Allison Williams, daughter of dashing but funny anchorman Brian Williams. There's Zosia Mamet, whose dad David is, y'know, only one of the most important playwrights (and, arguably, filmmakers) of the past century. And finally there's Dunham's old Saint Ann's chum Jemima Kirke, a queen bee of downtown Manhattan and the daughter of a member of the band Bad Company. She's friends with Paz de la Huerta! So, you get the picture. What business do any of these people have talking to us, regular non-royalty folk, about the poor young experience in the big bad city?

by Anonymousreply 1704/16/2012

That guy *was* kinda hot, right r18? And he has major, MAJOR Big Dick Face.

by Anonymousreply 1904/16/2012

Brian Williams' daughter is trying to spin it that she was discovered by producer Judd Apatow via youtube.

by Anonymousreply 2004/16/2012

R15, I love your post. Very well said (and written).

by Anonymousreply 2104/16/2012

I liked the show. But reading this thread I'm a bit turned off of it now.

by Anonymousreply 2204/16/2012

What does it matter who the other actresses' parents are? They're acting.

by Anonymousreply 2304/16/2012

I liked the show.

Then I didn't like the show.

Then I did.

Ad nauseum.

The jury is still out but as of now it's Larry David as seen through the eyes of a 24 year old female.

by Anonymousreply 2404/16/2012

White people problems!

by Anonymousreply 2504/17/2012

As it is I think it's a brutally honest take on these sorts of women - and yes they're women, and the title Girls is itself as pointed as their whiny narcissistic portrayals - and I know A LOT of these women here in this city right now, but I can't argue with r15.

by Anonymousreply 2604/17/2012

R4, Jemima is actually a common "upper crust" British name (re. Jemima Khan, the heiress who dated Hugh Grant). Conversely, you will not hear of a single black American with that name in over 100 years. Is your knowlege limited to what you read on food labels?

by Anonymousreply 2704/17/2012

I liked it but I also liked Tiny Furniture. I honestly though don't know where this will go. It's sort of like the white chick variation on How to Make It in America but with more money and less minorties. That ultimately ran its course over two seasons.

by Anonymousreply 2804/17/2012

Mamet is also on Mad Men.

by Anonymousreply 2904/17/2012

[quote]As it is I think it's a brutally honest take on these sorts of women - and yes they're women, and the title Girls is itself as pointed as their whiny narcissistic portrayals - and I know A LOT of these women here in this city right now, but I can't argue with

Exactly. I've seen a lot of criticism that the 'girls' aren't likable characters. Well, they aren't supposed to be likable! We are supposed to roll our eyes at how spoiled and annoying these women are. We all know people like these. I think that's the whole point. I could relate to these characters in some way, while at the same time cringing at how ridiculous, whiny and spoiled they are. I liked the realism of it.

by Anonymousreply 3004/17/2012

I know people like this in real life and that's exactly why I'm not watching.

by Anonymousreply 3104/17/2012

Zoisa Mamet (who i liked quite a bit on Mad Men) gives Rumer Willis' face a run for its money.

by Anonymousreply 3204/17/2012

I find Zoisa 'interesting' looking. Rumer is just gross.

by Anonymousreply 3304/17/2012

Who is Zoisa Mamet's mother?

by Anonymousreply 3404/17/2012

Zoisa Mamet's mother is actress Lindsay Crouse.

by Anonymousreply 3504/17/2012

Thanks, R35.

by Anonymousreply 3604/17/2012

She's nowhere near as ugly as Rumer Willis.

Re: the show, I can't STAND the actress playing the lead. She's really got me repelled in all ways--she's impossible to look at, is not a good actress and has no charisma.

And I think the criticisms of this show as being a story we've heard told too many times is valid.

by Anonymousreply 3704/17/2012

The world of a heterosexual is a sick and boring life.

by Anonymousreply 3804/17/2012

David Mamet is an asshole.

by Anonymousreply 3904/17/2012

Allyson Williams' dad is Brian Williams and her grandfather (on her mother's side) is a big honcho at HBO. She was put on the pilot of BOARDWALK EMPIRE as an all-purpose stand-in when she wasn't a good match for anyone on it except that wack-a-doodle Paz de la Huerta.

Family connections help, I guess.

by Anonymousreply 4004/17/2012

It's absolutely appalling that HBO would air a show starring actresses who have gotten by, not on their innate talent (like me), but through their family connections!


by Anonymousreply 4104/17/2012

There was a lengthy profile on Lena Dunham in The New Yorker way back in November 2010, presenting her as a major talent and this show as extremely promising.

by Anonymousreply 4204/17/2012

Mommy bought that review too.

Seriously, just watch this ugly woman "act" (aka stare ahead blankly and mumble) and tell me it was earned honestly. Her mama must know everybody in NYC.

Even Bryce Dallas Howard can actually act -- and bothered to learn how.

by Anonymousreply 4304/17/2012

I recollect reading a review of the Criterion DVD where Criterion compared "Tiny Furniture" to Woody Allen. I watched the film and couldn't find the slightest connection to Allen, unless it had something to do with endless whining.

by Anonymousreply 4404/17/2012

I didn't really like that pilot but I feel like I'll probably end up marathoning it and liking it the same way I did its brother series in precious, lily-white Brooklyn fantasia Bored To Death. Which is why I'm slightly puzzled by the backlash this show is getting - if you're a non-white, non-wealthy Brooklyn bohemian girl I am sure this shit is like yet another slap in the face, but if you're a white guy with a blog and a useless MFA, what's the uniquely big deal here?

by Anonymousreply 4504/17/2012

R43's contrast with Howard is apt.

by Anonymousreply 4604/17/2012

[quote]I get it, *these* girls wouldn't have a diverse group of friends, but how about a show centered around the kind of girls that would?

This. I actually saw the phrase 'voice of a generation' used in a piece about this show - WTF? This is a portrait of a tiny slice of America that we keep hearing from over and over the fuck again. So sick of it.

by Anonymousreply 4704/18/2012

Let's face it. HBO isn't intersted in black people unless they're gang members or drug dealers. Oz and The Wire, anyone?

by Anonymousreply 4804/18/2012

What about "Treme"?

by Anonymousreply 4904/18/2012

HBO would love a show about black people if it was well-written and well done. Find that show and it's on.

Otherwise, stop bitching.

And R49 is right. Treme is great.

by Anonymousreply 5004/18/2012

this show isn't even diverse enough to include someone with a different hair color. I can barely tell the girls apart on the poster. There's Unibrow, Dumpy, HidesHerFace and Token Attractive.

Brian Williams' daughter was trying to spin it that Judd Apatow discovered her on youtube but Gawker had a video of her hanging out with Apatow and her dad at some film festival where Brian Williams presented an award to Apatow and made jokes about casting his daughter. Cut to two years later...

by Anonymousreply 5104/18/2012

But the thing is, I know plenty of these girls and they do self segregate. A lot of hipster girls and guys have their own little insular circle of white people just like them and they live in a bubble. I think that's part of what we're shown is the problem with these characters. They are utterly banal, unself-aware, and their narcissistic navel gazing is just being reflected back by their carbon copy friends. These girls don't seem like the type to venture out of their comfort zone and meet a diverse group of people.

I don't think Lena Durham is saying we should like these people or look up to them. I think we are supposed to view them as total assholes. Which I think is a basic difference between this and Sex and the City. In SATC we were supposed to aspire to be Carrie and think her life was wonderful. I don't think anybody wants to be any of these shiftless girls. They suck. That's the point.

by Anonymousreply 5204/18/2012

I like your take on it, R52, and might watch that show. But I seriously don't think Dunham has that kind of irony; I think she really does think her trivial world is fascinating somehow.

And I would wager she thinks her blank acting technique is real and honest and blah blah blah... as opposed to dull and listless and untrained.

What "Real Housewife" Kim Zolziak is to singing, Lena Dunahm is to acting. Please just make it go away.

by Anonymousreply 5304/18/2012

The problem with that R52 is if all of the characters are unlikeable, why am I watching them? Larry David was an unlikeable protagonist but he had moments of self-awareness. And as far as the diversity issue, I don't believe for a second that all of the obnoxious self-inolved hipsters in Brooklyn are white. There are young minorities with wealthy parents who are just as stupid as Lena and Co. If this show was really brave, they would have included at least one non-white navel gazer.

GIRLS is the Gretchen Mol of sitcoms.

by Anonymousreply 5404/18/2012

Larry David is also funny, R54.

by Anonymousreply 5504/18/2012

Well, so far we've only had one episode. Maybe Hannah will develop self-awareness? Maybe they do have other friends we haven't seen yet? Pilots are usually a little choppy. I liked the first episode, and I want to see where this goes.

by Anonymousreply 5604/18/2012


by Anonymousreply 5704/18/2012

I watched it. It's so cliched in that it attempts to mock cliches, but fails. Did that make sense?

Anyway, they better be prepared for the endless mocking and ridicule because they're going to get it.

by Anonymousreply 5804/18/2012

well, r50 that could probably happen if shows with minorities were given as many chances to fail as shows with white leads.

HBO just passed on their pilot about a young black boxer in Newark.

by Anonymousreply 5904/18/2012

[quote]HBO would love a show about black people if it was well-written and well done. Find that show and it's on.

"The Wire" was probably one of the greatest shows ever created - predominantly black cast. Many are now discovering it on netflix, but only a few watched it when it was on.

by Anonymousreply 6004/18/2012

Zosia Mamet certainly didn't make it on her looks. It's either talent or connections. Definitely NOT looks.

by Anonymousreply 6104/18/2012

r50 and others - HBO recently bought a show that will star a black actor who plays a chef. I don't know details. But you bitches heard it here first.

by Anonymousreply 6204/18/2012

I'm a little baffled by the amount of publicity the Dunham woman is getting. Also, I read that the second episode is supposed to be much better than the (choppy) first.

by Anonymousreply 6304/21/2012

I really liked this show, but just realized that the Mamet girl is on Mad Men. She's only been in a handful of scenes but she is the WORST ACTRESS EVER. Maybe she's gotten better because she didn't stand out to me here. But my goodness she ruins every scene she's in on Mad Men.

Still excited for this show though.

by Anonymousreply 6404/21/2012

I thought it was exactly average. Better than most of the crap, but nothing like a really good show. However, it's just one episode. Hard to really judge until the series has gone a year.

But the nepotism thing really bothers me, and in a weird way, has me rooting for it to fail.

by Anonymousreply 6504/21/2012

Say, isn't that Mamet actress also on Mad Men?

by Anonymousreply 6604/21/2012

Hey, has anyone besides R29, R32 and R64 brought up the fact that Mamet's daughter is on Mad Men?

by Anonymousreply 6704/21/2012

These girls make a wonderful case for abortion.....if only their mothers had.....

by Anonymousreply 6804/22/2012

That was kind of an ... explicit ... beginning.

by Anonymousreply 6904/22/2012

We'll just call this "The Abortion Episode" I guess.

I still like it, but I'll be damned if I could tell you why.

by Anonymousreply 7004/22/2012

Oh god, THAT'S David Mamet's daughter? Now her career makes sense. I watch Mad Men and every time she was in a scene I wondered "who is this girl fucking to get parts, because she's ugly as sin and she has no talent?" Now I know what her story is.

by Anonymousreply 7104/23/2012

Finally watched the premiere. Can't believe HBO put this on the air.

by Anonymousreply 7304/23/2012

What am I, chopped liver? She looks more like me than that asshole, anyway.

by Anonymousreply 7404/23/2012

I give Dunham a year before she goes on a crash diet and gets some plastic surgery (attributing the change in her face to the weight loss).

by Anonymousreply 7504/25/2012

I don't care if characters aren't likeable, but when they're so far removed from reality on top of that, and the show is more depressing than funny, I have no interest in continuing to watch. I don't find it entertaining to watch characters like this. There is just something about the whole show I find off-puting.

by Anonymousreply 7604/25/2012

Maybe I am just getting old but my favorite characters were the parents and especially the Mom. She and I were doing some serious synchronized swimming during the conversation about financially cutting off the daughter. I swear our faces moved as one.

by Anonymousreply 7704/25/2012

Oh, I thought she was Mamet's daughter with Rebecca Pidgeon. I forgot about Lindsay Crouse.

by Anonymousreply 7804/25/2012

"And finally there's Dunham's old Saint Ann's chum Jemima Kirke, a queen bee of downtown Manhattan and the daughter of a member of the band Bad Company. She's friends with Paz de la Huerta!"

This sounds like a joke more than a rationale for nepotism. WTF makes her a queen bee?

by Anonymousreply 7904/25/2012

I love Jemima Kirke. She's a star. I think she's got great comedic timing, especially if you consider she is basically an amateur.

Allyson Williams stands out to me as the weakest link. She doesn't fit in because she is too glamorous and not at all funny.

I think the sex scenes are hilarious. It is so rare to see unsexy sex on American TV. It's usually more like soft porn. So, showing the awkwardness of young people getting it on is refreshing and it makes me laugh.

by Anonymousreply 8004/25/2012

which one is Jemima? THe pregnant one. I think the weakest link is the girl that is the cousin of the british girl - the one that is on Mad Men as the lesbian reporter.

She's very awkard in this role and not believable

by Anonymousreply 8104/25/2012

Dunham was born on the same day (May 13, 1986) as master-thespian Robert Pattinson!

by Anonymousreply 8204/25/2012

This show isn't the anti-SATC, it's more like the Brooklyn, down market version. There's the striving, unlucky in love protagonist (Carrie/Dunham), the smart one with the puppy dog bf who is staunchly defensive of her friend (Miranda/Williams), the ditzy and sexually prude one (Charlotte/Mamet), and the world weary sexual one (Samantha/Jemima).

I don't hate the show but I don't really see the point. Oh, and the "abortion but not really abortion" plot twist was a total copout. Next!

by Anonymousreply 8304/25/2012

Don't be mean to those girls!

Hey, I didn't have any money or family connections, only a spot of talent. And look at where I am today.


by Anonymousreply 8404/25/2012

The Mamet girl is a terrible actress. She should be embarrassed. The Williams girl isn't much better. But Dunham isn't bad.

It's just mostly that the program isn't very funny. The best thing in it were the parents. And they're probably very minor characters.

by Anonymousreply 8504/25/2012

I work hard! I wanna sit by a fucking lake!

That part made me laugh.

by Anonymousreply 8604/25/2012

I'm liking this and I also like her Tiny Furniture. I don't know where it will go or how much more inspiration Dunham can cull from her life as she is only 24 but I will watch and see.

by Anonymousreply 8704/25/2012

if i don't like any of the characters of a show, i don't like the show. there's not ONE person in the cast (maybe the parents, yes) i identify with or like or root for.

thus, urf.

by Anonymousreply 8804/25/2012

I call it "Brats."

by Anonymousreply 8904/25/2012

Boy (no pun intended), is this the wrong crowd for this show...

The girls aren't supposed to be pretty little things for you to look at, their actions aren't supposed to be 100% admirable, they aren't role models that Lena Dunham wants anyone to emulate.

I thought it was nuanced and hilarious (especially the 2nd episode).

Probably a show for the Mad Men crowd...

by Anonymousreply 9004/25/2012

Probably not a show for a crowd, period. I think HBO is shocked at the numbers. Their recent pattern is to announce the second season renewal right after the premiere. Two weeks and nothing. I still think it will likely see a season two, however.

by Anonymousreply 9104/25/2012

Adam Driver photographs much better than I thought he would. I was impressed with him on stage--Man and Boy, Look Back in Anger--but I thought he was so homely that he'd never be cast as a lead on television. Show does a great job of covering up those ears!

by Anonymousreply 9204/25/2012

i didn;t like any of the characters on sex and the city either.

by Anonymousreply 9304/26/2012

R90. It's not that simplistic; house is a selfish asshole but I like at show.... No one is asking for "adorable" characters. Just give me *one* I can partially identify with at least.

by Anonymousreply 9404/26/2012

Here you go. This review says it better than I ever could:

by Anonymousreply 9504/26/2012

Well, we had the gay ex-boyfriend tonight. He was cute.

by Anonymousreply 9604/30/2012

"Your Father is gay!"

by Anonymousreply 9704/30/2012

Zosia Mamet is the daughter of Lindsay Crouse. No wonder she is terrible. Her mother was the most wooden creature ever put on film.

by Anonymousreply 9804/30/2012

Another example of 'gay-voice' and 'gay-mannerisms' in this episode.

by Anonymousreply 9904/30/2012

It's been renewed for a second season.

by Anonymousreply 10105/01/2012

I don't know what all your bitching is about. I found the 2nd and 3rd episodes hilarious. So far I am really liking it. Y'all are just a bunch of cunts.

by Anonymousreply 10205/01/2012

I agree R102. Eps of both Girls and Veep were very funny. Now if they could only bring back The Comeback. Damn them!

by Anonymousreply 10305/01/2012

I love this show. It's painfully smart, and very apropos of city girls with a liberal education, no real life experience outside of pop culture references and twitter quips, who are trying to find themselves, sexually, intellectually, and otherwise, with no road map guiding them into what it's like to be a woman.

by Anonymousreply 10405/01/2012

More sad than funny. These characters should move to the suburbs and work as school teachers.

by Anonymousreply 10505/01/2012

So happy to hear its renewed.

I really like the lead character. Which is odd evause I'm pretty sure I would hate her in person. The actress is so natural.

Get rid of the virgin girl. Terrible actress.

by Anonymousreply 10605/01/2012

agree with r106

by Anonymousreply 10705/02/2012

I've had it with t.v. and film. It's all nepotism and is often funded by organized crime money. Too many no-talents. Too much mediocrity.

by Anonymousreply 10805/02/2012

I loved her reaction when her ex said that he could have sex with her because she had a "handsomeness" about her. Great scenes between the two of them.

by Anonymousreply 10905/02/2012

Zosia Mamet's character is annoying, but she has a smaller part than the rest so she is easy enough to ignore. Allison Williams is such a big weak link. Not a fan.

by Anonymousreply 11005/02/2012

There must not be many of them, R111. The renewal means very little. As I posted earlier, this is HBO's standard practice. Some industry experts are already questioning the move, seeing as ratings are dropping from the anemic starting levels.

by Anonymousreply 11205/04/2012

Decent episode. About half the storylines though I don't care much about.

And I'd welcome the kind of smothering love from a hottie like that one boyfriend. Damn.

by Anonymousreply 11305/07/2012

What do the characters talk about? Is it about trying to get a boyfriend, lose weight, popular culture references and stupid stuff like that?

by Anonymousreply 11405/07/2012

Actually, I think it's a smart move r112. HBO will keep its reputation of being 'creator friendly' by automatically renewing flagging shows.

Also, there are many stories of successful network shows that took a while to find their legs. Cheers and Hill St Blues are two off the top of my head.

It keeps the fans who do watch (and tend to be intense) from shit-talking the network on fan forums.

by Anonymousreply 11505/07/2012

R115, the examples you give were shows that, unlike Girls, did not arrive with such strong buzz. This, viewers have outright rejected. It doesn't need to be found. It needs to be lost.

by Anonymousreply 11605/07/2012

I like the Veep/Girls hour. Both make me laugh outloud.

by Anonymousreply 11705/07/2012

What do we think about the two office bitches that drew silly eyebrows on her?

by Anonymousreply 11805/08/2012

You look like a Mexican teenager!

by Anonymousreply 11905/11/2012

Mamet's daughter is the quintessential butterface.

by Anonymousreply 12005/11/2012

She's very rodent like but I find her somewhat endearing on the show.

by Anonymousreply 12105/11/2012

The boys on this show are so hot. Every week there's. New cute guy. Often times nearly naked.

by Anonymousreply 12205/16/2012

I must say I found the closing JO scene of the last episode extremely erotic.

by Anonymousreply 12305/16/2012

Kind of painful to watch. Not the JO scene. The whole show.

by Anonymousreply 12405/16/2012

The boys are hot?


The friend who read Hannah's diary is Seinfeld-fugly. Is he another Apatow buddy?

by Anonymousreply 12505/16/2012

The only boy who could possibly be considered hot is the smothering boyfriend but when they do close ups on his face you can see he's not really cute either.

The Adam character is so revolting I almost want to vomit whenever he's on screen.

by Anonymousreply 12605/16/2012

The guy last week who wouldn't fuck the virgin was hot.

by Anonymousreply 12705/16/2012

Lena is PERFECT in this role. Of course, she's playing herself.

But I really enjoy this show. It gets better every episode.

by Anonymousreply 12905/17/2012

[quote]Lena is PERFECT in this role. Of course, she's playing herself.

I don't know about that. Do you think Hannah could write, produce and direct a TV show? Even this show?

by Anonymousreply 13005/17/2012

Allison Williams looks like she is about to laugh in every single scene she is in.

by Anonymousreply 13105/17/2012

The masturbation scene at the end was kinda hot actually... the way they made it obvious he was hung like a fucking horse, and ALMOST showed it...

by Anonymousreply 13205/17/2012

The way he was faux-jacking off made it look like his cock was a foot long.

by Anonymousreply 13305/18/2012

Full Frontal on her dad tonight... Peter Scolari!

And her midwestern boyfriend is a hot little thing.

by Anonymousreply 13405/20/2012

This show is great. It is incredibly ballsy for Dunham to be so exposed and so honest. Even though my life is completely different from hers (I am not a privileged prep school girl), I can totally relate to the choices/behaviors that all these girls confront. love it.

by Anonymousreply 13505/21/2012

[quote]And her midwestern boyfriend is a hot little thing.

That was Lou Pucci, who was the star of Mike Mills's "Thumbsucker" with Tilda Swinton. They show it on Sundance all the time.

Lou Pucci grew up to be really hot.

by Anonymousreply 13605/21/2012

This is the smartest show on television.

by Anonymousreply 13705/21/2012

What is smart about it? Is r114 right?

by Anonymousreply 13805/22/2012

It was totally unrealistic that the cute pharmacist would want to fuck dumpy Hannah and her tragic breasts.

At least this episode, as opposed to the first one, her mother actually seemed like her mother.

by Anonymousreply 13905/22/2012

Loved the benefit for the dead girl.

by Anonymousreply 14005/22/2012

Great episode. I especially liked it when Hannah was talking to the mirror trying to convince herself she was infinitely more interesting and intelligent than her former classmates because she moved to NY. If that wasn't a slice of reality, don't know what is...

by Anonymousreply 14105/22/2012

LD sure loves showing her naked Andy Richter-like body.

by Anonymousreply 14205/22/2012

Good one, R142.

Though her breasts aren't as tragic as that poor, hideous woman in Game of Thrones. The one aboard ship that Theon Greyjoy fucks.

Is Pucci gay?

by Anonymousreply 14305/22/2012

I love that she shows herself naked. That takes a lot of guts. And yes, she has sad little breasts and a lower body like a parenthesis.

by Anonymousreply 14405/22/2012

while nepotism is clearly involved, she has an undeniable talent and her choices and lack of vanity definitely earn [from me] a level of respect.

I don't deny the nepotism, but at least she has a talent to mitigage the unfairness of the fact she was pushed ahead in line by several factors having nothing to do with that talent.

by Anonymousreply 14505/22/2012

Wow a trifecta of nudity: Lena, Becky Ann and Peter Scolari!

by Anonymousreply 14605/22/2012

Dunham's parents are a sculpter and a painter. I'm sure that opened TONS of doors in Hollywood.

by Anonymousreply 14705/22/2012

Honestly I had no idea who her mother was before all the Girls press started. Laurie Simmons isn't exactly a household name.

by Anonymousreply 14805/22/2012

Her mother and sister played those respective parts in Tiny Furniture which was also filmed in the loft she grew up in. Pretty awesome space.

by Anonymousreply 14905/22/2012

Smothering Boyfriend looks better without the shaved head and facial hair.

by Anonymousreply 15005/25/2012

Pharmacist was cayoot!

by Anonymousreply 15105/28/2012

Is Christopher Abbott gay?

by Anonymousreply 15205/28/2012

R150, I think smothering boyfriend is just fine as he is in the show. I want him. In me. With me. On me. Near me.

by Anonymousreply 15305/28/2012

As awful as I usually find her, Sho was entertaining as a crackhead.

by Anonymousreply 15405/28/2012

I think that this might be the most I important show of the decade.

by Anonymousreply 15505/28/2012

I love Adam.

by Anonymousreply 15605/28/2012

Just saw the episode last night with some friends. Loved it. Now I want to go back and see the rest of it.

by Anonymousreply 15705/28/2012

Peons wouldn't know who LD's parents are, but I'm sure people in Judd Apatow's world do.

by Anonymousreply 15805/28/2012

Watched the first episode. Loved the first scene, lost all hope shortly afterwards at the cupcake-in-the-shower scene. Went from lean and smart to sloppy cliche in minutes.

MIght try again. Don't know.

When TV shows tell you who they are, believe them.

by Anonymousreply 15905/28/2012

That Mamet spawn is uglier than a fucking mud fence.

by Anonymousreply 16005/28/2012

It's ridiculous to think Lena's parents had anything to do with her getting her own HBO show, other than in the sense that them having money allowed for her to afford to film Tiny Furniture.

But it's not as if they have the power to "make a call" or something. Shit, there are much more famous and more well connected people who can't get their kids their own show. Look at Colin Hanks. He sucks. No one would give him his own show.

The fact is, she's talented.

by Anonymousreply 16105/28/2012

r159 really has it. This show is the mark of a talented, original voice singing a terrible song. After 6 episodes, I see no reason to give a shit about any of these characters, who actively create their own misery. They speak wittily and prettily, but about nothing of any worth.

by Anonymousreply 16205/28/2012

"Peons wouldn't know who LD's parents are, but I'm sure people in Judd Apatow's world do.'

I highly doubt lowbrow Judd Apatow moves in downtown Manhattan art circles, which is exactly Laurie Simmons and Carroll Dunham's world.

Lena's dad is a painter who is obsessed with assholes. He has a severe case of gay face.

by Anonymousreply 16305/29/2012

One of Carroll Dunham's paintings. WTF?

by Anonymousreply 16405/29/2012

Dunham's parents, her mom is in the middle, her dad on the right.

by Anonymousreply 16505/29/2012

Am I the only one who thought of "Bob's Burgers" after clicking on R164's link?

by Anonymousreply 16605/29/2012

He looks like Edward Gorey's hipster bastard lovechild. (Metahporically, of course-Gorey was gay.)

by Anonymousreply 16705/29/2012

His looks aren't holding up as well as his wife's are. And this thought that Lena got where she is because her parents are known in the art world is LUDICROUS.

by Anonymousreply 16805/29/2012

"The fact is, she's talented."

Lena, is that you?

by Anonymousreply 16905/29/2012

I love this show. I thinks she's talented as well.

by Anonymousreply 17005/29/2012

That should be, I think she's talented.

I think the Bushwick party episode was the best one yet.

by Anonymousreply 17105/29/2012

I guess Jessa wearing that ridiculous black feathered number to a party like that was being ironic? And her being a cunt is charming?

Speaking of clothes, Marni has no casual outfits? And Hannah dresses like a sad clown.

Was Shoshanna supposed to be bottomless as she raced around Bushwick?

How did Hannah ever meet Adam if she's never seen him out of his apartment? And why in the world would he want her -- a dumpy, self-absorbed lump of entitlement -- as a girlfriend? Is she like the only girl who ever put a finger up his ass?

Moment of the night: Hannah flying off the handlebars onto the pavement.

Second moment: Hannah's bitchy queen of an ex-boyfriend bitch-slapping Marni. There's no way anyone ever bought him as straight.

by Anonymousreply 17205/29/2012

The show wants to be all things and fails. Maybe it'll settle down and actually be funny in season 2. I'm not asking for an earth-shaker, just a funny 30 min. of TV.

by Anonymousreply 17305/29/2012

I think the point is that Marnie is out of her element. She's Vineyard Vines in a salvation army chic world. Jessa is the girl who lives life and experiments. Hannah is the sponge. She soaks up others opinions and doesn't have her own point of view of yet. The thing that binds them is that they are all so self absorbed. Hannah's relationship with Adam is the most real depiction of a relationship between 20somethings that I've ever seen.

by Anonymousreply 17405/29/2012

[quote]How did Hannah ever meet Adam if she's never seen him out of his apartment?

Internet maybe?

by Anonymousreply 17505/29/2012

I love this show!

by Anonymousreply 17605/29/2012

Is Christopher Abbott gay?

by Anonymousreply 17705/29/2012

Lena Dunham's father wasn't bad looking when he was younger.

Lena doesn't look like either of her parents, perhaps she has her father's cow eyes, but I don't see much of a resemblance.

Her mother and sister are tall and somewhat slim, the mom has a decent shape for an older woman, the mother also is facially attractive.

I guess looks skipped a generation in Lena's case. She might resemble some Babushka wearing relative from the Old Country! Lena Dunham is extremely homely looking, dumpy and looks way older than her age.

by Anonymousreply 17805/29/2012

It's a show that gets better with each episode, unlike the disappointing Veep, which was spinning its wheels by episode 3.

I think it's kind of funny that some people claim it's nothing like "Sex and the City," when the similarities are so obvious. Last night's Bushwick episode was structured exactly like countless classic SATC episodes.

by Anonymousreply 17905/29/2012

The Dunham family. The father really cracks me up, he looks so dull and depressed. Like someone cut and pasted him into the photo! Must be rough making millions from crappy silly paintings.

How many assholes can one paint?!!

Looks like Lena must have had a professional dress her and do her makeup and hair. She also appears slimmer in this photo.

by Anonymousreply 18005/29/2012

I'm going to say it now - little sis is hot.

by Anonymousreply 18105/29/2012

I can't believe how badly they dress Hannah on the show. I don't really see too many women dress like that in Manhattan. She looks like a lumpy, frumpy sad clown with her 5th grade wardrobe. Wouldn't somebody like Marni, who always looks put together, help out her BFF?

by Anonymousreply 18305/29/2012

Veep makes me laugh. I like the relationship between Selina and Amy. But this isn't a thread about Veep. I wonder if there is one...

by Anonymousreply 18405/29/2012

Hannah dresses perfectly for who she is.

by Anonymousreply 18505/29/2012

What part of Bushwick was the loft party?

It didn't look like any part of Bushwick I remember from my childhood when my family and I visited relatives who wee still living there. There was no truly industrial part of Bushwick, as LD described in her synopsis of the last episode, which airs after each On Demand viewing. LD called Bushwick "an industrial neighborhood", I had to wonder what the hell she was talking about.

Bushwick was a mixed working class area of Brooklyn. It was an Italian, Puerto Rican and Black American neighborhood. Now I gather Bushwich filled with white trust fund hipsters playing at being artists, which means there is yet another NY neighborhood that working class people are being driven out of?

I was talking to my mom about the gentrification of Bushwick, she got a huge laugh out of the fact that there are $600,000 condos on the old shopping strip of Knickerbocker Avenue. It's all too weird to comprehend.

Her reaction was, "Who in their right mind would spend that kind of money to live in Bushwick?"

by Anonymousreply 18605/29/2012

This really is the younger grunge version of Sex and the City. This party episode was the best evidence yet. I think Lena is talented and the show is funny and well made but these characters are getting about as annoying as those four old bitches tottering around on their Manolos.

by Anonymousreply 18705/29/2012

Allison Williams can't act, although her character is the least annoying. Simply. Can't. Act.

Zosia Mamet is playing a very, very annoying character, but I think she's playing her well. Especially during the crack attack. That was wonderful to watch.

Jemima Kirke is the only one with real star quality.

Watched all the episodes and its hit and miss for me. The sex scenes are really some of the most honest I've ever seen. The scene with Adam dirty talking her was brilliantly written and played. Enjoyed ep 2, 3 and 7 the most. The "going home" episode was every cliche in 30 minutes.

The relationship between Dunham and Williams is interesting and has room to grow - you can see how becoming adults is going to rock their friendship. While Kirke is very watchable I can't imagine that sustained interest in her character or Mamet's is really possible.

Dunham has talent, I just wonder if she should have had a few more small films under her belt before taking on a whole series. The world she writes about isn't interesting enough to sustain two seasons of material from what I've seen so far.

by Anonymousreply 18805/29/2012

There was a scene between Marnie and her ex where she said that she would kick Hannah out if it meant they could get back together. That was one of the most real scenes I've ever seen on a television show and sums up twentysomething girls to a tee.

by Anonymousreply 18905/29/2012 doesn't make sense to get out of the shower NOW... you've got PEE on you!

by Anonymousreply 19006/04/2012


by Anonymousreply 19106/11/2012

Does anyone else find Adam Driver hot?

by Anonymousreply 19206/14/2012

This show is already dead. It was interesting for a couple of episodes, but it's over. It will end up being cancelled. Trust me. It would have been a good movie, but as a series, it's DOA.

by Anonymousreply 19306/14/2012

LOL R193, that didn't take long!

by Anonymousreply 19406/14/2012

Already renewed for a second season. Gets better with each episode. Love it!

by Anonymousreply 19506/14/2012

[quote]Already renewed for a second season. Gets better with each episode. Love it!

And that'll be the end of it.

They renewed it after the first couple of eps. It good made because of who she knew.

by Anonymousreply 19606/16/2012

R192, his body isn't bad but that face -- ugh. And you could do a map of the galaxy with the moles on it.

But he's still way hotter than plain, dumpy Hannah and her tragic breasts.

by Anonymousreply 19706/16/2012

I love this show. I think Dunham is a real talent and Allison Williams is not bad considering she is a new actress. Y'all are bunch of grumpy bitches.

by Anonymousreply 19806/16/2012

[quote] It good made because of who she knew.

Yeah, sure. Her mom the painter has SO much influence she just called up HBO.

by Anonymousreply 19906/17/2012

Just a bookend to the whole "diversity" drama regarding the show.

I just think it's funny that the whole topic was brought up by white writers from magazines/websites/etc that were nearly exclusively white. And black writers couldn't find a fuck to give until the story became too big to ignore.

And having Donald Glover, who has zero appeal in the black community and is for all intents and purposes the token black hipster mascot of the white media, come on just to allay that created "controversy" is disingenuous and stupid.

"Girls" doesn't represent my world any more than "A Different World" represents the world of some blue blood ivy leaguer from the Upper East Side. And that's OK.

by Anonymousreply 20006/17/2012

Agree with r198

by Anonymousreply 20106/17/2012

I find the whining BUT SHE"S UGLY pretty pathetic. So fucking what?

by Anonymousreply 20206/17/2012

The show isn't horrible but it has been wildly overpraised. It's tolerably amusing but tries way too hard. And if Leah Dunham is the voice of her generation, we are in for a lot of shitty TV shows and movies in the future.

by Anonymousreply 20306/17/2012

Season Finale tonight.

by Anonymousreply 20406/17/2012

Hanna's "boyfriend" is really psycho.

Even though he has a point.

by Anonymousreply 20506/17/2012

Great finale!

by Anonymousreply 20606/17/2012

How was it great?

by Anonymousreply 20706/18/2012

Wow..this declined real fast! Some truly great stuff earlier in the run especially with her parents and the ep where she's dancing to Robyn at the end but whenever the show tried to incorporate all the characters into the plot at once it was awful. The "hot" Brooklyn warehouse party where they were dancing to J.Lo (oy!) and last night's ep with the wedding had awful writing, acting (with the exception of her ugly/hot bf)and a complete lack of any autheticity. The authenticity issue wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that Dunham has been held up as the voice of her generation and the show the Anti-SATC. What began as a sharp satire of a particular stratum of a generation quickly became just another lazy sitcom.

by Anonymousreply 20806/18/2012

I watched the finale and boy was it awful. Full of unfunny, narcissistic dialog and silly plot shenangans. I don't know how this ever made it to HBO. The creator must have slept with someone very high up.

by Anonymousreply 20906/18/2012

The finale was completely ridiculous. Both Jessa and Marnie were unrecognizable as their previous characters, and not in the good way they needed to be. Jessa's going to marry the guy she couldn't stand after two weeks? Marnie's going to model herself after a Jersey Shore slut and kiss Bobby Moynihan?

Having Adam tell dumpy, plain Hannah, who is a lousy writer and a worse friend, that she's pretty, a good writer and a good friend reminded me of how Streisand always has someone in her movies tell her how pretty she is. Yet, with Babs, as with Lena, we remain unconvinced.

And way to telegraph that Hannah's going to get her purse stolen via that tight close-up on it on the subway. Yeah, that's never been done before.

by Anonymousreply 21006/18/2012

I'm baffled by the rave reviews this show gets. This show is totally mediocre and forgettable.

by Anonymousreply 21106/18/2012

The point was that Jessa was acting out of character as a wild overreaction to the lecture that Kathryn Hahn's character gave her in the previous episode about growing up. Same with Marnie. She was trying to change her uptight persona by going for the slob, just like she tried to do in a previous episode by making out with Jessa.

by Anonymousreply 21206/18/2012

I actually liked the acting and dialogue between Hannah and Adam. I think Adam is the best thing about the show.

The wedding was a complete joke and that Mamet chick makes my skin crawl. I liked her so much better in Mad Men.

Moynihan chewed the scenery. He's better than that.

by Anonymousreply 21306/18/2012

Bring back the goddamed Comeback already.

by Anonymousreply 21406/18/2012

Yeah, but the point is lost, R212, when your characters do something so stupid and/or inconsequential to the storyline as to render their actions pointless. Lots of people get a lecture like the one Jessa got without feeling the need to marry someone they barely know and basically despise. Besides, someone like Jessa would barely respond with a roll of her eyes to Hahn's words, not take them to heart.

And I would wager that Marnie's look was developed because Dunham came up with the line about looking like J-Lo at the Grammy's and wanted to use it, ergo Marnie was styled that way. A pretty, classy girl like Marnie might turn it up a notch for a big party, but she's not gonna makes herself look like a low-class hooker.

Dunham proved herself to be incapable of sustaining any semblance of coherence or dramatic interest in her writing. Maybe she shouldn't have written on the subway on the way over.

by Anonymousreply 21506/18/2012

The second season is halfway through filming. Judd Apatow says it'll probably air in January.

by Anonymousreply 21606/18/2012

I hate shows and films where everyone looks like some plastic barbie doll that is supposed to beautiful...but, ugh, this is the other extreme...

by Anonymousreply 21806/18/2012

You know what is really rare - real attractive charming people like Cary Grant in the 30s or Diane Keaton in the 70s - is that completely gone? Seems like we are living in an age of unattractive - Reality TV, internet bile, Rhianna, thug culture, the show being discussed in this thread etc etc

by Anonymousreply 21906/18/2012

How come they only make the little fat one get naked?

by Anonymousreply 22006/18/2012

R218, I agree.

I don't like it either when everyone is drop dead gorgeous, but let's get real. It's not like this chick even has a fantastic personality to make up for the face/body, so it's kind of ridiculous that a cute pharmacist would be so anxious to go out with her that he would follow her ugly ass out to the car.

by Anonymousreply 22106/18/2012

How To Make It In America was last year's HBO series about self-absorbed hipsters and look how long that lasted.

by Anonymousreply 22206/18/2012

I have never met anyone who has fallen into a deep sleep on the subway where they end up at the end of the run.

by Anonymousreply 22306/18/2012

This show is hilarious and clever and if you don't agree don't watch it, bitches!

by Anonymousreply 22406/18/2012

I can't believe she couldn't tell where she was. Every station has signage and every pretentious hipster twat has made a trip to Coney Island where that line ends.

by Anonymousreply 22506/18/2012

The guys on the show are really unattractive, too.

by Anonymousreply 22606/19/2012

I think the fat girl's boyfriend is hot and he just played a straight character in the gay film Gayby that's making the festival rounds.

by Anonymousreply 22706/19/2012

Adam looks like the love child of Adrien Brody and David Schwimmer. He's NOT HOT.

by Anonymousreply 22806/19/2012

[quote]The guys on the show are really unattractive, too.

The one boyfriend who got dumped was fucking hot as hell. I'd let him smother me with his love all he wanted.

by Anonymousreply 22906/19/2012

I've never seen the show, but from her pictures, she's not nearly as ugly as people are exaggerating. No, she doesn't look like a model, but she's not some hideous monster, either. I've seen guys far uglier than her get called "hot." Hell, I just came from a thread where Adam Sandler was called "handsome." If he can be called good-looking, then anyone can be.

by Anonymousreply 23006/19/2012

r223 My boyfriend once fell asleep on the train and ended up in Coney Island.

by Anonymousreply 23106/19/2012

[quote]Hell, I just came from a thread where Adam Sandler was called "handsome." If he can be called good-looking, then anyone can be.

A large wallet has that effect.

by Anonymousreply 23206/19/2012

[quote]I'm baffled by the rave reviews this show gets. This show is totally mediocre and forgettable.

It reflects the critics' idea of what is hip and now back to them. It validates the choices they made in life and allows them to watch others have similar struggles. The struggles in this case being having to work at a coffee shop and marrying wealthy venture capitalists, being white and secure. But, to the critics these characters are automatically "interesting" because they represent a demographic that marketing and PR has determined is "interesting". Characters in shows like "Treme" or "Southland" don't fit that bill and thus those shows do not have yards and yards of column inches dissecting them.

by Anonymousreply 23306/19/2012

[quote]Lots of people get a lecture like the one Jessa got without feeling the need to marry someone they barely know and basically despise.

I actually kind of bought that. Jessa always struck me as posing as a bon vivant. She has no skills and no prospects and somewhere deep down she knows that. Why not marry a very rich man? She's the type to say "I can always divorce him and get alimony". She is the exact stereotype that her new husband described her as a few eps ago. The hipster act is a pose, not a conviction. She'll be a rich, typical frau in no time.

by Anonymousreply 23406/19/2012

I liked the ending where she was on the subway and then wandering around the beach for whatever reason, it was odd.

by Anonymousreply 23506/19/2012

13 pounds overweight??!!

Bitch please, more like 30.

by Anonymousreply 23606/27/2012

just watched the whole season. I laughed a lot, but some of it was awful. The most interesting part of the show was the friendship of Marnie and Hannah changing.

by Anonymousreply 23712/29/2012

Given all the discussion, I watched the season 2 trailer yesterday and actually liked it. So I watched a few more bits that were on youtube, and was shocked that I actually laughed and liked what I saw. I didn't think the show would have a definite comic sensibility and perspective. From what people had written, I'd expected the show would be self-involved and limited in a juvenile, but instead the characters were clearly not just autobiographical or projections.

The 'handsomeness' and particularly the 'inappropriate physical response' lines has me in fits of laughter.

by Anonymousreply 23812/30/2012

I watched the first few episodes. Not funny. Maybe it's too young for me. It seemed to be trying REALLY hard to be a revised Sex and the City for the hipster crowd. Plus, they all look like they smell. Pass.

by Anonymousreply 23912/30/2012

Bumping for Andrew Rannells' bare ass in the Season 2 premiere.

by Anonymousreply 24001/19/2013

I like where it's going. The about-face that the financier guy did was a little abrupt but then so was their marriage. Why'd she ask for so little money? He was a twat. I really enjoy the show but yes, Lena Dunham is not attractive to inspire people complimenting her beauty of getting obsessed with her. I hate to be this way, but she needs to lose about 30lbs and get some plastic surgery.

Nobody was completely creeped out that Adam called her an 11 year old with a Care Bear lunch box that he going to send home to her parents covered in cum? It bothered the shit out of me.

by Anonymousreply 24101/28/2013

Adam is meant to creep us out....

I habe no idea where its going this season. Last nights ep was good but it's better when all 4 girls are in it (rather than sidelining shoshanna and the english one)

Loved Marnie's creepy sex scene: The doll is sassy? no, she's sad.

by Anonymousreply 24201/28/2013

I'm not interested in watching it. I don't know, maybe it's just me but I'm a little tired of watching people try to "make it" in New York. Idk, just seems a bit played out. And yes, as often as I hear how NYC is the "most diverse city in the world," I can't help but wonder why there isn't someone who isn't white. I don't know, it just seems like a role for a Latina girl would have been great. Maybe Alexis Bledel (she is Latina though many don't realize that) or America Ferrera. I would rather have seen Bledel as Williams's or Mamet's character. Or African American or Asian. Just something. The acting, from what I've seen is very flat and unfunny. Just not interested. To each his own though.

by Anonymousreply 24402/05/2013

Also, I meant to add that The Wire was an awesome show. I don't know who mentioned it first but it was a truly underrated show.

by Anonymousreply 24502/05/2013

So nice opening scene with a really hot nice ass on display for an extended time.

by Anonymousreply 24602/17/2013

Adam Driver is hideous yet hot. You know he must be hung like a Mississippi mule.

by Anonymousreply 24702/18/2013

I loved his line about "maybe bc we're both weird looking? Why did she need someone to tell her to write an ebook? Isn't the beauty of an ebook that you own it and make more money that way? I laughed when Marnie took the comforter w/ her in the bathroom.

by Anonymousreply 24802/18/2013

Personally, I think there should be more plain-looking and ugly people on tv. Like the kind of people you see in 70s movies. Or on British television. I'm sick of looking at perfect, unblemished people. There was some show I saw when channel surfing recently -- I think it was about lawyers, but it was hard to tell because it looked like a fashion shoot. The perfection of the faces, bodies and clothing of the cast was distracting. It was like a plastic surgery commercial.

But we shouldn't pretend that plain or ugly people are gorgeous/handsome and so desirable that they have people immediately falling in love with them. Lena Dunham's character is like some siren who men are irresistibly drawn to and who women are constantly complimenting. It's not just unrealistic, it's bizarre.

by Anonymousreply 24902/18/2013

Peter Scolari and Judy Collins!

by Anonymousreply 25003/04/2013

WOW but the last 4 episodes really were awful, with the "season finale" being particularly awful.

by Anonymousreply 25103/29/2013

The father coming out was hysterical.

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