[quote]On men, just creepy. I know two guys who are older (I don't know the age, just know much older than me, maybe 70) who had face lifts.
The key to facelifts, if you're going to go that route, is to start early. You first need a basic lift in your late 40s if you're going to try to maintain your looks later on. Getting a facelift after 60 is invariably a disaster, because the skin by that point is already so loose (and thus it's much easier to accidentally "tighten" the face, and worse still it won't "slacken" much with age because it's already so slack).
[quote]Just depends on the surgeon. Tammy's lift last year by the world's best, Ivo Pitanguy, is an example of extraordinarily good and subtle work.
I agree completely. I can think of no male who's had better surgical work than Cruise. On the female front, Sophia Loren owns it (regardless of her now decades-long claim that she's never had any work done).
[quote]These older 45-50 year olds, getting peels, botox, eye jobs. It's repulsive.
While it's possible to do Botox "right" (to allow the recipient to retain the ability to move their upper face while eliminating wrinkles), it's extremely hard to find someone with that level of skill, so far too many people end up with the dreaded "frozen face" look, particularly in L.A. Chemical peels are hard to fuck up unless your dermatologist uses too strong a solution; there's usually some redness and peeling, but afterwards you've basically lost a layer of skin and a lot of fine lines. Surgical eye jobs are also easy to fuck up -- particularly on women, they can result in "cat eyes" (a noticeable slant - see cases in point Sandra Bullock and Sarah Jessica Parker), but on men the problem is usually pockets of fat accumulating above and below the eyes, and in both cases they can today be dealt with via laser surgery that just breaks up the fat pockets. Again, a hard surgery to fuck up.
[quote]I think it's advisable to do something about a sagging neck and sometimes jowls
I agree, and that's one reason Tom Cruise looks so good; whoever took care of his recent "turkey gullet" did superb work. Aside from that, he appears to have had only some very minor work, and doesn't appear to use Botox (though fillers are certainly a possibility in his frown lines and cheeks, and he could've had hair plugs to cover any receding or balding - good plug jobs are nearly impossible to notice nowadays).