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John Lennon With A Hard-On

Hmm.

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by Anonymousreply 162August 23, 2014 9:37 AM

That doesn't look like John nor Yoko

by Anonymousreply 1January 8, 2012 1:44 AM

r1 is blind.

by Anonymousreply 2January 8, 2012 1:48 AM

I am now.

by Anonymousreply 3January 8, 2012 1:49 AM

I guess I never saw that picture before.

by Anonymousreply 4January 8, 2012 1:51 AM

Well I guess that ends the debate as to where and oriental vagina is located.

by Anonymousreply 5January 8, 2012 2:08 AM

Hard to believe John never broke his glasses during sex.

by Anonymousreply 6January 8, 2012 2:09 AM

Heh heh. Heh heh.

BOI-YOI-YOI-YOING!

Heh heh.

by Anonymousreply 7January 8, 2012 3:27 AM

Yoko's titties are gross.

by Anonymousreply 8January 8, 2012 3:38 AM

Which one is John?

by Anonymousreply 9January 8, 2012 3:44 AM

Justifiable homicide or mercy killing?

by Anonymousreply 10January 8, 2012 3:46 AM

It's hard to believe that John was once considered a hearthrob.

by Anonymousreply 11January 8, 2012 3:50 AM

was he bisexual as some people think? anyway, he and his fiance look gross and he had a very small cock,and don't get me started with that asian girl's tits,they are just too disgusting.

by Anonymousreply 12January 8, 2012 5:24 AM

Think what those saggy tits must look like now.

by Anonymousreply 13January 8, 2012 5:40 AM

The stories are that he was bisexual, or at least had an affair with Brian Epstein. A biography some time ago argued that the conflict between Lennon and McCartney was unresolved repressed homosexual tension. I always think it's a given a guy is closeted if he is attracted to Asian women, but that's just me.

by Anonymousreply 14January 8, 2012 5:44 AM

she reminds me of that Japanese girl in the movie "The ring", but by the way, what's up with straight men and their attraction to saggy body bits they were not born with? oh my lord,that's pretty scary stuff,isn't it?

by Anonymousreply 15January 8, 2012 5:47 AM

LOL @ R12 ... "that asian girl."

twinks slay me.

by Anonymousreply 16January 8, 2012 5:48 AM

That isn't John Lennon.

by Anonymousreply 17January 8, 2012 5:58 AM

It certainly is Lennon and Yoko. It's from a series of photographs taken for their album "Unfinished Music No.1: Two Virgins." Here's the cover:

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by Anonymousreply 18January 8, 2012 6:31 AM

r17 is a moron.

by Anonymousreply 19January 8, 2012 7:29 AM

Oh, it's them alright. They posed naked for the cover of that awful album they did together, "Two Virgins", I believe it was called. That photo is obviously from that photo session. They both looked quite unattractive naked. John was skinny but flabby. And Yoko had that hairy bush and those gross tits that were "pointed but pendulous", as one observer commented.

When asked why the hell he and Yoko would do something so ridiculous John Lennon explained that he and Yoko had this beautiful love for each other and the naked album cover was just a way for other people "to share in it" if they were so inclined to do so. As stupid as it sounds, he actually said that.

by Anonymousreply 20January 8, 2012 9:49 AM

They had average bodies. I wouldn't call them gross or yucky.

And, no, I'm not fat at all.

by Anonymousreply 21January 8, 2012 11:19 AM

That has got to be the least sexy picture I've ever seen. .. In my whole life.

by Anonymousreply 22January 8, 2012 12:29 PM

R22 = Nan Michiganwomyn throwing up a little in her mouth.

by Anonymousreply 23January 8, 2012 12:39 PM

Ugh those two disgusting human beings truly deserved each other. Although I do recall reading somewhere that years later John Lennon was so embarassed by these pictures and the Two Virgin album sleeve that he would send people to buy them all in whatever record store they were selling.

by Anonymousreply 24January 8, 2012 1:20 PM

It is also argued that John was actually quite homophobic growing up in 50s working class Liverpool. He obviously mellowed as he got older.

by Anonymousreply 25January 8, 2012 2:35 PM

Albert Goldman made a remark in his book about Lennon that in the "Two Virgins" photos Yoko looks "simian."

Pretty damn accurate!

by Anonymousreply 26January 8, 2012 2:51 PM

"They had average bodies. I wouldn't call them gross or yucky."

John's may have been average, but Yoko's was definitely below average. Those are some awful looking tits. Somebody said that Yoko was probably pregnant when these pictures were taken that that's why her body wasn't in the best of shape. Well, she may have been pregnant, but I don't think that accounted for her tits sagging towards the floor.

John Lennon had his pick of women and this fugly, monstrous she-devil is who he chooses? I think that's an indication of how fucked up he was that he would hook up with the likes of Yoko Ono.

by Anonymousreply 27January 8, 2012 3:57 PM

I thought that perhaps she supplied him with heroin and that's what he really loved...or perhaps he liked to be worshipped? With Yoko, I think it was always, ALWAYS, about the money. She knew what she wanted and she went after it. I assume she's happy.

by Anonymousreply 28January 8, 2012 6:28 PM

R27, that's what normal tits look like. We're so used to seeing the surgically enhanced versions, it's easy to think they're typical. Not the case.

by Anonymousreply 29January 8, 2012 6:35 PM

"I thought that perhaps she supplied him with heroin and that's what he really loved...or perhaps he liked to be worshipped?"

Yoko never worshipped John. In fact, she belittled him and treated him like he was her toady. Lennon, for all his rebel posturing, was an incredibly weak character; he needed someone to control him and tell him what to do. No woman had done that until Yoko came along, and when she came along he said it was like "winning the pools." He finally found a mannish, domineering, controlling woman who would take over his life, and for him that was like "finding gold."

"that's what normal tits look like"

You must not have seen a lot of tits, because THOSE tits are definitely NOT normal. Normal breasts have a certain amount of natural sag, but Ono's udders look grotesquely floppy and unattractive.

by Anonymousreply 30January 8, 2012 9:46 PM

Personally I appreciate to look at naked average and below average looking people from time to time. It makes those Sean Cody models look even more fantastic.

Being nude (on a nude beach for example) can be a very empowering experience and you most likely are not around hot and perfect bodies either.

by Anonymousreply 31January 8, 2012 10:04 PM

Yes those ARE normal tits. IF you're 55 or older.

by Anonymousreply 32January 8, 2012 10:06 PM

None of the Beatles had great bodies, especially John and Paul. John was the fat beatle, and became anorexic in his 30s.

by Anonymousreply 33January 8, 2012 10:09 PM

Their bank account gives me a hard-on.

by Anonymousreply 34January 8, 2012 10:09 PM

I'm 47 and my tits don't look like that R29. My guess is she rarely wore a bra so they sagged earlier.

by Anonymousreply 35January 8, 2012 10:10 PM

I've always thought their relationship was a good argument for the segment of the population that believes you can magically make someone love you or brainwash them to be with you against their will, etc.

Most of us have known ordinary people that made us wonder, "What does he see in her?" (or any combination of gender pronouns), but there is no amount of logic or psychological dissection that can make most of us believe John Lennon naturally fell in love with Yoko Ono and gave her all his power, money, will, devotion and judgment.

by Anonymousreply 36January 8, 2012 10:12 PM

At least they're not YOU'RE parents!

by Anonymousreply 37January 8, 2012 10:16 PM

That's what burning your bra gets you, ladies. Yoko Ono's breasts.

I don't know what John Lennon saw in Yoko Ono, but it was obviously beyond the physical.

by Anonymousreply 38January 8, 2012 10:18 PM

Some women have saggy tits from the beginning, some don't. I never understood what made the difference and the girls with saggy tits never did either. I know a 65 year old woman, her tits still don't sag.

by Anonymousreply 39January 8, 2012 10:20 PM

I'm not having a problem that they look like average people. That doesn't bother me at all. It bother's me that he gave his life over to that succubus.

by Anonymousreply 40January 8, 2012 10:26 PM

Yoko had already had a child with her former husband when this picture was taken. Pregnancy can enlarge the breasts and breast feeding deflate them.

by Anonymousreply 41January 8, 2012 10:47 PM

If one pregnancy did that, I wonder what Michelle Duggar's boobs look like.

by Anonymousreply 42January 8, 2012 10:49 PM

they deserved each other,he was instead of smoking hot,smoking ugly LOL. I can barely look at his face for 1 second

by Anonymousreply 43January 8, 2012 10:53 PM

Those are normal tits because they are real.

by Anonymousreply 44January 8, 2012 10:55 PM

[quote]I can barely look at his face for 1 second

How old are you? Five?

by Anonymousreply 45January 8, 2012 10:58 PM

Beauty's only skin deep.

Who the fuck cares?

I still listen to Starting Over.

by Anonymousreply 46January 8, 2012 10:59 PM

Real does not = normal.

by Anonymousreply 47January 10, 2012 12:26 AM

"Beauty's only skin deep."

But ugly's to the bone.

Beauty always fades away

But ugly (see Yoko) holds it's own.

by Anonymousreply 48January 10, 2012 2:07 AM

The photographer must have been a cute bloke.

by Anonymousreply 49January 10, 2012 2:28 AM

@25:

John contributed to The Gay Liberation Book back in 1973

As for Yoko - fyi- she gave a cool 1$mil to Amfar in the 90s.

by Anonymousreply 50January 10, 2012 2:32 AM

Is it just me, or does Yoko resemble the Venus of Willendorf?

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by Anonymousreply 51January 10, 2012 4:51 AM

I think breast lifts have improved since back then. I'd get one and possibly a reduction if I had to lug those big jugs around.

by Anonymousreply 52January 10, 2012 4:59 AM

What's a normal breast R47?

by Anonymousreply 53January 10, 2012 5:14 AM

He had a nice big bubble ass....see link.

OP's pic seems to have surfaced recently, for some reason. I've never seen it until a few weeks ago.

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by Anonymousreply 54January 10, 2012 7:48 AM

Can someone summarize what was so bad about Yoko?

by Anonymousreply 55January 10, 2012 8:23 AM

I really expected him to have a much bigger dick.

by Anonymousreply 56January 10, 2012 8:32 AM

Yoko had a really long back with a slit in it.

Michelle Duggar's tits look like a couple of tortillas, R42.

by Anonymousreply 57January 10, 2012 8:43 AM

She was horrid. But John was worse. I make excuses for him, because he was an artist. She was not. She was just a gold digger and an enabler. She was the most hated woman in the world. Why did the idiot kill John, when he could have killed her?

by Anonymousreply 58January 10, 2012 3:58 PM

Now that I think of it, Yoko was probably happy when he was dead. Him being dead, she had what she always wanted.

by Anonymousreply 59January 10, 2012 4:00 PM

"Can someone summarize what was so bad about Yoko?"

She is a talentless, controlling, manipulative, egotistical, endlessly self-promoting, wildly materialistic shrew. She laid siege to Lennon after their first meeting in an art gallery, and eventually overpowered him and took control of his life. It wasn't that difficult to do; Lennon had been wanting somebody like that his entire life. His relationship with her was the catalyst for the end of the Beatles; if he had never met her the group probably would have gone on for at least a few more years. He left the Beatles for her.

Ono has reveled in her widowhood. After Lennon's death all the scorn and hatred directed towards her evaporated and now she's treated with deference and respect. But she's still unbearable. She's milked John's corpse by selling his doodles on tchotchkes. She has always given John's son Julian the short end of the stick financially. At some kind of art event she did a so-called "performance piece" where she howled orgasm noises into a microphone. And in recent years she's been claiming that she and John (well, mostly she) invented punk rock.

by Anonymousreply 60January 10, 2012 6:45 PM

what a disgusting couple

free David Chapman he did the world a favor

by Anonymousreply 61January 10, 2012 8:03 PM

Lol, nice

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by Anonymousreply 62May 26, 2013 10:04 PM

True

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by Anonymousreply 63May 26, 2013 10:05 PM

I thought he was not bisexual at all and he tried "it" with Brian once to "see what it was like" and said it really wasn't something he wanted to repeat - I don't think that classifies as an affair.

by Anonymousreply 64May 26, 2013 10:07 PM

Photo taken by Annie Leibowitz on the morning of the day John died.

A bit spooky...

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by Anonymousreply 65May 26, 2013 10:09 PM

The links don't work anymore.

by Anonymousreply 66May 26, 2013 10:13 PM

John was the only one from the Beatles who certainly had sex appeal.

Paul was just pretty and cute, George was too plain and serious and Ringo was like a funny cute hairy bear.

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by Anonymousreply 67May 26, 2013 10:13 PM

The original photo doesn't work. New link anyone?

by Anonymousreply 68May 26, 2013 10:16 PM

R68, yes i find that out too. I wish someone could send a link. I was just too hesitant too ask it...

*grins

John: 'Trying to please everybody is impossible - if you did that, you'd end up in the middle with nobody liking you. You've just got to make the decision about what you think is your best, and do it.” ― John Lennon, The Beatles Anthology

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by Anonymousreply 69May 26, 2013 10:20 PM

Oh sweetie...!

Is it true that he was a wife beater? Is it possible?

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by Anonymousreply 70May 26, 2013 10:23 PM

The Beatles Fact of the Day: When John Lennon was a teenager, he was walking down a street in winter when he found a stray cat. He couldn’t just leave the cat there in the freezing cold. So he picked it up and took it to his house, calling it Tim. In this picture, you can see his Aunt Mimi and his favorite cat, Tim

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by Anonymousreply 71May 26, 2013 10:27 PM

“I’m not claiming divinity. I’ve never claimed purity of soul. I’ve never claimed to have the answers to life. I only put out songs and answer questions as honestly as I can… But I still believe in peace, love and understanding"

-John Lennon

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by Anonymousreply 72May 26, 2013 10:31 PM

This may be OP's original link.

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by Anonymousreply 73May 26, 2013 10:32 PM

R73, you are a silly rat!

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by Anonymousreply 74May 26, 2013 10:33 PM

Guys, you think that if John was alive, he would be still with Yoko?

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by Anonymousreply 75May 26, 2013 10:36 PM

[quote]This may be OP's original link.

Wow. He had an iPhone! Lennon was way ahead of his time.

by Anonymousreply 76May 26, 2013 10:38 PM

Actually, this is the only nude photo of John that i have ever seen.

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by Anonymousreply 77May 26, 2013 10:45 PM

Yoko had big tits for an asian broad.

And what was going on in the '70s that gave everybody's tits that huge punching bag look with the giant areolas? Every single woman had this gourd titties.

by Anonymousreply 78May 26, 2013 10:49 PM

Lol R78! Wtf!

This is one of my favourite photos of John. I posted it also in the Paul McCartney thread, but it fits here more i think

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by Anonymousreply 79May 26, 2013 10:54 PM

I like to think he'd be a belieber.

by Anonymousreply 80May 26, 2013 10:56 PM

Hahahaha Justin B.! Shush.

I don't want to sound superficial but i wonder what he found in Yoko? She had such beautiful soul?

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by Anonymousreply 81May 26, 2013 10:58 PM

[quote]And what was going on in the '70s that gave everybody's tits that huge punching bag look with the giant areolas?

Those would be NATURAL large tits.

Today's implants have corrupted people's perceptions of what is normal.

by Anonymousreply 82May 27, 2013 1:44 AM

John wasn't the best looking guy but when he hooked up with Ono, he became downright fug. They were an unfortunate looking couple.

by Anonymousreply 83May 27, 2013 2:10 AM

R61 If only your mother had unrestricted access to those wire hangers she'd been looking for....

by Anonymousreply 84May 27, 2013 2:12 AM

A lot of Asian women are kinky and very giving in bed. I guess John loved that in Yoko.

by Anonymousreply 85May 27, 2013 11:18 AM

Why would they pose nude like that in R77? Can you imagine any of today's celebrity couples posing like that? Brad and Angelina, Justin Timberlake and Jessica Biel, Matt Damon and Ben Affleck?

by Anonymousreply 86May 27, 2013 11:48 AM

Or Matt Bomar and Simon Halls.

by Anonymousreply 87May 27, 2013 11:48 AM

In WWII Japanese women loved American soldiers. First time they'd seen anything but pencil pricks.

by Anonymousreply 88May 27, 2013 11:50 AM

Am i the only one that detects something Asian in John's looks?

by Anonymousreply 89May 27, 2013 11:54 AM

Wow, R88. You're the prick.

by Anonymousreply 90May 27, 2013 11:57 AM

John, Paul, George

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by Anonymousreply 91May 27, 2013 12:02 PM

Candid photo 60's

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by Anonymousreply 92May 27, 2013 12:05 PM

He and Yoko were not a strange couple. There were similarities between them. If you were observant, you would notice it.

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by Anonymousreply 93May 27, 2013 12:14 PM

John and Yoko

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by Anonymousreply 94May 27, 2013 12:15 PM

With Cynthia...

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by Anonymousreply 95May 27, 2013 12:22 PM

R58 'because he was an artist. She was not.' Wrong. She was Japan's most famous artist when they met. Meeting John totally fucked up her art career in the West. She's still Japan's most famous artist, alongside Yoyoi Kusama.

by Anonymousreply 96May 27, 2013 1:13 PM

Here is a working link.

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by Anonymousreply 97May 27, 2013 2:02 PM

Perhaps she lived with Joan Crawford R84 ...

by Anonymousreply 98May 27, 2013 2:07 PM

John Lennon had tinymeat.

by Anonymousreply 99May 27, 2013 2:49 PM

My God, there's nothing wrong with either of those bodies.

Some of you are seriously damaged.

by Anonymousreply 100May 27, 2013 3:03 PM

agree with r100. There is serious damage talking on this thread. If you have ever been in a locker room in the mid-western united states then you know these bodies are ABOVE the average in terms of attractiveness.

Most of you posting hateful comments about another persons nakedness are wrestling with some kind of self hate or distorted body image

Those distortions can be positive as in thinking you are superior because your body is more attractive than others or negatively distorting a perfectly lovely body into something to ridicule.

by Anonymousreply 101May 27, 2013 3:16 PM

I'm collecting money to buy R100 a full-length mirror.

by Anonymousreply 102May 27, 2013 3:16 PM

Yoko's tits were like that due to pregnancy, fyi.

by Anonymousreply 103May 27, 2013 3:19 PM

Collect money for your therapy, R102.

by Anonymousreply 104May 27, 2013 6:14 PM

John Lennon had a perfectly average-sized, intact penis as nature intended it to be.

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by Anonymousreply 105May 27, 2013 6:57 PM

R105, the man in that picture is not John Lennon and that woman is not Yoko.

Ffs!

by Anonymousreply 106June 2, 2013 6:32 PM

Gross clit, and yoko's pussy is vile too.

by Anonymousreply 107June 2, 2013 6:51 PM

R107! Please, retain yourself!

by Anonymousreply 108June 2, 2013 6:56 PM

"the man in that picture is not John Lennon and that woman is not Yoko."

Yes, it is. If you see pictures from the Two Virgins album it's obvious that yes indeed, that is John Lennon and Yoko Ono naked.

by Anonymousreply 109June 2, 2013 7:15 PM

*shoves R109 and makes him fall down to the ground

R109, if you are not sure, stop making wild guesses, ok?

by Anonymousreply 110June 2, 2013 7:27 PM

Agree with r100, there are some defectives in this thread.

by Anonymousreply 111June 2, 2013 7:34 PM

What the hell is the matter with you people? Never mind what John Lennon contributed to music and to society. Just let that all go. These days, the successful musician must be clean-shaven from the neck downward, and his wife has to have a boob job and a Brazilian wax. They don't even have to be literate, or know anything about music, or even have a voice. No--they just need to be PRETTY so you metrosexuals can wonder all day long who they're fucking.

by Anonymousreply 112June 2, 2013 8:00 PM

What's John wearing around his neck?

It looks almost like a tiny gas mask.

by Anonymousreply 113June 2, 2013 8:04 PM

"What's John wearing around his neck?'

It looks like some kind of ugly necklace. Yoko probably made it for him.

The necklace thing he's wearing in the hard-on picture is the same one he's wearing in the photos for the Two Virgins album. Yoko's saggy tits are also identical to the ones you see in the Two Virgins photos. So it IS them and they ARE naked and they both look gross. The Two Virgins photos show that Yoko had a saggy ass as well.

John Lennon's co-dependent love for Yoko Ono was a measure of how mentally disturbed he was. Of all the women in the world he could have had and he hooks up with a homely, ball-busting little troll like Yoko Ono? He was truly fucked up.

by Anonymousreply 114June 3, 2013 1:22 AM

Lol, 112, you MIT be we here.

by Anonymousreply 115June 3, 2013 3:07 AM

Stop it! Be a little respectful. Ok?

by Anonymousreply 116June 3, 2013 1:01 PM

This is my favourite song that Yoko sung for a John Lennon album. It's so...i love it. Really, it's so original and inspiring. A short one but still, it's amazing!

O'Sanity...

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by Anonymousreply 117June 3, 2013 9:40 PM

"She was Japan's most famous artist when they met. Meeting John totally fucked up her art career in the West. She's still Japan's most famous artist, alongside Yoyoi Kusama."

That's hard to believe. When Yoko met John she was desperate to be noticed. After she got her hooks into him, she was.

She was famous, alright. But famous for doing crazy things (like some art "piece" where she had the audience come onstage and cut off her clothes) and making a spectacle of herself. John started doing the same after they got together, leading commentators to comment that he seemed to have gone "completely off his rocker."

by Anonymousreply 118June 3, 2013 10:40 PM

Walking on Thin Ice was the only good thing Yoko ever did.

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by Anonymousreply 119June 4, 2013 6:44 AM

R119, Yoko is very cute with those glasses on. Isn't she a sweetie there?

Does anybody know why John was abusive to Cynthia? He was jealous or just...?

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by Anonymousreply 120June 4, 2013 8:27 PM

Rare photo of John with Cynthia

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by Anonymousreply 121June 4, 2013 8:31 PM

With Ringo Starr in Miami 1964

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by Anonymousreply 122June 4, 2013 8:38 PM

"Does anybody know why John was abusive to Cynthia? He was jealous or just...?"

He married her because she got pregnant (not that he'd done a damn thing to prevent a pregnancy), and felt trapped because he'd never loved her and the timing was so bad. The marriage and pregnancy happened just as the Beatles began to take off, and he'd have liked to change everything about his life. Feeling trapped, he took every opportunity to cheat on her, ignore her, and ditch her while he lived the high life, and his fears that she'd retaliate by having fun without him drove him to be very nasty and controlling.

She stood it for years, apparently because she thought being a rock star's unhappy wife was better than being a rock star's unhappy ex-wife. Or maybe she was afraid that he'd abandon their son Julian once he was free of her, which he basically did. The marriage to Cynthia brought out the absolute worst in him.

by Anonymousreply 123June 4, 2013 9:10 PM

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by Anonymousreply 124June 4, 2013 9:20 PM

Ringo Cries over John Lennon's Death

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by Anonymousreply 125June 8, 2013 1:29 PM

Ringo Cries for George Harrison

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by Anonymousreply 126June 8, 2013 1:30 PM

The feud between Lennon and McCartney originated after The Beatles manager Brian Epstein passed away. Paul wanted his new father-in-law to manage the group while the other Beatles wanted the notorious Allen Klein. Lennon and McCartney maintained a frosty relationship after the band broke up.

By most accounts, McCartney contacted Lennon periodically, but was often rebuffed. The last time they saw each other was two years before Lennon's death when they shared dinner in New York. In a 2008 interview with The Times of London, McCartney said: "The answer to John was well - I was sleeping very well at the time. Before John died I got back a good relationship with him. That was very special. The arguments we had didn't matter. We were able to just take the piss about all those songs; they weren't that harsh. In fact, I have been thanked by Yoko and everyone else for saving the Beatles from Allen Klein. Everything comes round in the end."

by Anonymousreply 127June 18, 2013 11:55 AM

Lennon wrote 'How Do You Sleep' at the height of his feud with Paul McCartney after The Beatles broke up. Each line of the song is an attack on some aspect of McCartney's life or music at the time. For instance, the line "Everything you done was yesterday. Since you gone you're just another day" refers to Paul's song "Yesterday" with the Beatles and his first solo single "Another Day." John felt that Paul's greatest work was behind him.

Some of Lennon's lyrics refer to McCartney's "Too Many People" from his album Ram (Hence the pig postcard). The lyrics from "Too Many People" that referred to Lennon: "Too many people preaching practices" and "You took your lucky break and broke it in two."

by Anonymousreply 128June 18, 2013 11:57 AM

Lennon discussed this song in an interview with BBC Radio 1 DJ Andy Peebles on December 6, 1980, four days before his death. He recalled: "I used my resentment against Paul, that I have as a kind of sibling rivalry resentment from youth, to write a song. It was a creative rivalry… It was not a vicious vendetta… but I felt resentment, so I used that situation the same as I used withdrawing from heroin to write Cold Turkey; I used my resentment and withdrawing from Paul and the Beatles to write How Do You Sleep?"

by Anonymousreply 129June 18, 2013 11:58 AM

John admitted he had a mean streak and had deep anger issues. He even once said he took some of the lyrics from "Getting Better" to heart. He quoted the line "I used to be cruel to my woman, I'd beat her and kept her apart from the things that she loved" saying that line was truly about himself.

by Anonymousreply 130June 18, 2013 12:00 PM

Another reason John was angry was because Paul had pretty much taken over the Beatles. John was actually angry at Paul because Paul had announced the break up of the beatles at a press conference without having consulted the other 3. The fact that said press conference was also announcing Paul's solo album didn't help matters either - some felt Paul was cashing in on the Beatles' demise to sell his album.

by Anonymousreply 131June 18, 2013 12:05 PM

John Lennon letter to Paul McCartney to reach £40,000 at auction A draft letter by John Lennon showing animosity towards Paul McCartney is set to reach £40,000 in an online auction.

A quote reads: "Do you really think most of today's art came about because of the Beatles? I don't believe you're that insane – Paul – do you believe that? When you stop believing it you might wake up!"

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by Anonymousreply 132June 18, 2013 12:08 PM

"People said, 'It's a pity that such a nice thing had to come to such a sticky end. I think that too. It is a pity. I like fairy tales. I'd love it to have had the Beatles go up in a little cloud of smoke and the four of us just find ourselves in magic robes, each holding an envelope with our stuff in it. But you realize that you're in real life, and you don't split up a beautiful thing with a beautiful thing." (McCartney)

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by Anonymousreply 133June 18, 2013 12:11 PM

Paul said that "by the time we made "Abbey Road", John and I were openly critical of each other's music and I felt John wasn't much interested in performing anything he hadn't written himself...So I felt the split coming. And John kept saying we were musically standing still."

There were complaints about Paul’s bossiness in the studio. Keep in mind now that Paul’s bossiness was nothing new. He was always this way and the other Beatles were used to it and used to standing up to it. They had disagreements, just like they always had. There’s a famous scene in the "Let it Be" film where Paul and George get into an argument after Paul tells George how he should be playing guitar. George ends up walking out of the session. Paul had a similar experience with Ringo months earlier and Ringo walked out of the session as well.

by Anonymousreply 134June 18, 2013 12:12 PM

John was resentful towards Paul in the last sessions. He didn’t feel the necessary amount time was put into his songs. He accuses Paul of ‘subconscious sabotage.’ He feels that Paul was trying to destroy some of his songs, like ‘Strawberry Fields’ and ‘Across the Universe.’ He felt that these songs were badly recorded and that the experimentation in the studio always seemed to happen on his songs.

John also mentions that he "always thought there was this underlying thing in Paul's 'Get Back.' When we were in the studio recording it, every time he sang the line 'Get back to where you once belonged,' he'd look at Yoko."

After seeing, the ‘Let it Be’ film, John comments "I felt sad, you know… Also, I felt . . . that film was set up by Paul for Paul. That is one of the main reasons the Beatles ended. I can't speak for George, but I pretty damn well know we got fed up of being sidemen for Paul. After Brian died, that's what happened, that's what began to happen to us. The camera work was set up to show Paul and not anybody else. And that's how I felt about it."

by Anonymousreply 135June 18, 2013 12:13 PM

Another problem in the studio was Yoko Ono’s presence. "George recalls "being freaked out with Yoko. The four of us had been through a lot together and we were very close... most of the time. We weren't close all the time. I don't know. I thought we were very possessive of each other in a way. The wives and the girlfriends never came to the studio... THAT was when WE were together. So, Yoko came in. And that was fine as John's relationship when we all said hello to her, because she was with John. But then she's sittin' in the studio on his amp. I mean, the pair of them were amazing... They suit each other, I think. So, we all got a bit weird, and I was wondering what was happening one day. So I was saying to John, 'What is going on here? You're always together all the time, you know. You're freaking me out a bit."

Overall, the studio was full of tension for everybody but Yoko. The band had to deal with Paul’s bossiness and John’s obsession with Yoko. The others were irritated by Yoko’s interference, and John resented their resentment.

by Anonymousreply 136June 18, 2013 12:14 PM

Paul sees Yoko from two different perspectives. First, he recognizes that she is the perfect woman for John and is very happy for him. "Yoko had freed John to explore the avant-garde in ways that had not been possible in during John's married years in suburbia. In fact she wanted more. Do it more, do it double, be more daring, take all your clothes off! She always pushed him, which he liked; nobody had ever pushed him like that."

On the other hand, Paul does admit that he was hurt by being replaced by her "It was ...like old army buddies splitting up on account of wedding bells. You know..." (sings) "'Those wedding bells are breaking up that old gang of mine.' He'd fallen in love, and none of us was stupid enough to say, 'Oh, you shouldn't love her.' We could recognize that, but that didn't diminish the hurt we were feeling by being pushed aside. He also admits "The thing is, in truth, I never really got on that well with Yoko anyway. It was John who got on well with her--that was John who got on well with her... that was the whole point."

When asked how he would characterize George's, Paul's and Ringo's reaction to Yoko, John said "It's the same. You can quote Paul, it's probably in the papers; he said it many times that at first he hated Yoko, and then he got to like her. But it's too late for me. I'm for Yoko. Why should she take that kind of shit from those people? They were writing about her looking miserable in the film Let It Be, but you sit through sixty sessions with the most bigheaded, uptight people on earth and see what it's fuckin' like and be insulted. And George, shit, insulted her right to her face in the Apple office at the beginning, just being ``straightforward,' you know, that game of ``I'm going to be upfront, because this is what we've heard,' and Dylan and a few people said she'd got a lousy name in New York. That's what George said to her! And we both sat through it. I didn't hit him; I don't know why. Ringo was all right, but the other two really gave it to us. I'll never forgive them, I don't care what fuckin' shit about Hare Krishna and God and Paul with his ``Well, I've changed me mind.' I can't forgive 'em for that, really. Although I can't help still loving them either."

by Anonymousreply 137June 18, 2013 12:17 PM

In May 1969, Paul tried to get the band to play live. He suggested that they play unannounced in small clubs, maybe in disguise. Ringo liked the idea. George was a bit reserved about it. When Paul told John, John said Paul was daft and said "I might as well tell you, I’m leaving the group. I want a divorce, like my divorce with Cynthia." John had told Allen Klein already. Klein told John to keep silent, even to the other Beatles, until the Capital deal was done. John agreed, but found it impossible not to tell the others.

"A furious row developed, with John railing bitterly at Paul for his "granny" music, especially ‘Ob-la-di’ and ‘Maxwell's Silver Hammer,’ on the ‘Abbey Road’ which John had particularly detested. He told Paul he was sick of ‘fighting for time’ on their albums, and of always taking the B-sides on singles…George interrupted resentfully that songs he had recorded this year were often those he had written years earlier but not been allowed to release. He added that he never really felt the Beatles were backing him. After a six month silence, Paul called John and said he was putting out an album and was leaving the group also. John replied "That makes two of us who have accepted it mentally."

by Anonymousreply 138June 18, 2013 12:20 PM

John’s thoughts on "Yesterday"

"Well, we all know about 'Yesterday.' I have had so much accolade for 'Yesterday.' That is Paul's song, of course, and Paul's baby. Well done. Beautiful-- and I never wished I had written it."

"I'm always proud and pleased when people do my songs. It gives me pleasure that they even attempt them, because a lot of my songs aren't that doable. I go to restaurants and the groups always play 'Yesterday.' I even signed a guy's violin in Spain after he played us 'Yesterday.' He couldn't understand that I didn't write the song. But I guess he couldn't have gone from table to table playing 'I am the Walrus.'"

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by Anonymousreply 139June 18, 2013 12:22 PM

The bitter rift between Paul and Yoko began soon after they met in 1968. He and John were the most successful songwriting partnership the world had ever known. John, who'd been married to Cynthia Powell since 1962, first met Yoko, a Japanese performance artist seven years his senior, at a London art gallery in November 1966. He slowly became enchanted by her, but it wasn't until May 1968 that they became lovers - and John immediately insisted on his new girlfriend attending sessions for The Beatles White Album. The EMI studios in Abbey Road, North London, had long been the band's private clubhouse. Now Paul, George and Ringo were going to have to get used to a small, unsmiling woman sitting in.

Beatles expert Mark Lewisohn says: "Yoko attended every Beatles recording session and would encourage hostility by whispering conspiratorially into John's ear. She would sit on his amplifier and appear to preside over the session by openly criticising and suggesting changes to the music being recorded."

by Anonymousreply 140June 18, 2013 12:27 PM

In 1997, she compared John to Mozart while Paul, she said, more closely resembled his less-talented rival Salieri. The next year Paul pointedly refused to ask Yoko to attend a New York memorial service for Linda, who had just died of breast cancer.The feud surfaced again in 2000 as the three surviving Beatles were preparing a Beatles greatest hits package, 1. Although the song Yesterday had always been credited to Lennon-McCartney, it was entirely the work of Paul who now asked for his name to be put first.

"I felt that after 30 years this would be a nice gesture and something that might be easy for Yoko to agree with," said Paul.

"At first she said yes, but then she rang back a couple of hours later and reversed her decision."

Two years later, Paul hit back when he changed the credits for all The Beatles songs included on his album Back In The US Live 2002, to "composed by Paul McCartney and John Lennon".

Yoko hit back by removing Paul's credit from the track Give Peace A Chance on the Lennon Legend DVD.

by Anonymousreply 141June 18, 2013 12:29 PM

In rock mythology, John Lennon was the cynical, acid-tongued Beatle, Paul McCartney was friendly and open, George Harrison was the quiet one and drummer Ringo Starr was the group’s clown, always joking around. Satoko Condon remembers it a bit differently.

“Ringo was a bit difficult,” says the Osaka native, recalling how he snapped out orders for food. “He hardly spoke and never smiled.” McCartney wrote a love letter to his girlfriend. Harrison was reliably shy. And John Lennon? “I found him the friendliest,” she says. “He was so comical.”

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by Anonymousreply 142June 18, 2013 12:42 PM

Why the hell would they agree to pose in a hard on pic??? Can you imagine the stars of today doing this? Justin Timberlake and Jessica Biel? Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie? Ben Affleck and Jennifer Gardener?

by Anonymousreply 143June 18, 2013 12:45 PM

In a number of letters excerpted by Vulture from the forthcoming book ‘The John Lennon Letters,’ Lennon has rallied against critics of related stories of his wife Yoko Ono, and even scolded Paul and Linda McCartney.

“Yoko’s been an artist before you were even a groupie,” the Huffington Post quoted him as writing to his fan, who ridiculed Ono.

In another letter to a critic who didn’t like Ono’s show, he wrote, “I’d forgotten about people like you! Well, well - you still exist, of course, in small towns across the world...”

To Linda and Paul McCartney, he wrote, “I was reading your letter and wondering what middle aged cranky Beatle fan wrote it. I resisted looking at the last page to find out - I kept thinking who is it … What the hell - it’s Linda!”

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by Anonymousreply 144June 18, 2013 12:47 PM

John loved his first missus once...

An April 1962 letter from Hamburg to then-girlfriend Cynthia includes the memorable phrase: "I love you Cyn Powell and I wish I was on the way to your flat with the Sunday papers and cherries and a throbber! Oh Yes! "

It ends: "I love you, I love you please wait for me and don't be sad and work hard and be a clever little Cyn Powell. I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, I love you, write soon ooh its a naughty old Hamburg we're living in!!"

A letter home from a US tour in 1965 ends: "I'll go now 'cause I'm bringing myself down thinking about what a thoughtless bastard I seem to be - and it's only short of three o'clock in the afternoon, and it seems the wrong time of day to feel so emotional - I really feel like crying - its stupid - and I'm choking up now as I'm writting - I don't know what's the matter with me - It's not the tour that's so different from other tours - I mean I'm having lots of laughter (you know the type hee! hee!) but in between the laughter there is such a drop - I mean there seems to be in between feelings."

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by Anonymousreply 145June 18, 2013 12:52 PM

After returning home to Ono, Lennon took a temporary hiatus from the music business, in order to become a househusband and raise his newborn son, Sean. He would not return to the public eye for another five years until being inspired by former bandmate Paul Mccartney's song, "Coming Up". Lennon returned to the studio in early 1980 to record his final album "Double Fantasy", three weeks later, on December 8th 1980, Lennon would be gunned down outside of his NYC apartment(The same apartment where Rosemary's Baby was filmed)by a crazed fan, Mark David Chapman.

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by Anonymousreply 146June 18, 2013 12:57 PM

Yes Yoko, fine analogy, because Mozart/Salieri made such era-defining work together before they split up.

And when John Mozart was free, with your help, his talent soared. A first-rate dramatist is required to highlight this story. There should be a scene in which Paul is overwhelmed with envy and wonder at the celestial genius which poured from John.

by Anonymousreply 147June 18, 2013 1:01 PM

R146, the apartment was not the same as the one in which Rosemary's Baby was filmed. The building was the one that the used for the exterior shots in the movie. Some of the interiors might well have been in building, but not in the same apartment. And the rest of the interiors were in the Osborne, on 57th Street.

by Anonymousreply 148June 18, 2013 2:21 PM

"The marriage to Cynthia brought out the absolute worst in him.'

Actually, it was his marriage to Yoko that brought out the worst in him. He was a dickhead in private before Yoko but after he hooked up with her he was a dickhead in public as well. And the "projects" they did together sucked big time. One recording they made consisted only of the two them screaming each other's names: "John!" "Yoko!" "Jooohhnn! "Yoookoo! "JOOOOOHHNN!" "YOOOOOKOOOOOO!" Listening to their tapes made you want to kill them.

by Anonymousreply 149June 19, 2013 12:18 AM

"Why the hell would they agree to pose in a hard on pic??? Can you imagine the stars of today doing this?"

John did pretty much whatever Yoko wanted him to do.

Yoko apparently thought nudity was very edgy and original. She did a short film called "Bottoms" which consisted of nothing but film of naked asses. She did another short film of closeup of John making stupid faces and another one starring John's penis. The penis film him getting hard and then wilting; he didn't actually ejaculate but according to him it "dribbled at the end."

It's amazing that after all this unbelieveable idiocy John Lennon still had a career. It's a measure of how much people loved the Beatles that they would forgive him for being such an incredibly pussywhipped asshole who let his penis and ass hang out for all the world to see.

by Anonymousreply 150June 19, 2013 12:23 AM

I remember reading that the "art" display that first attracted John to Yoko was a stepladder reaching up to the ceiling in an art gallery. There was a small piece of paper attached to the ceiling and John climbed up to see what was written on the paper. When he got up to the top of the ladder and looked up at the paper, the word "YES" was the only thing written on it.

He was hooked.

Am I right in remembering that when George did a stint on SNL, John and Paul were watching it together in NYC and pondered going down to the studio to surprise George, but then thought better of it?

by Anonymousreply 151June 19, 2013 1:12 AM

" He would not return to the public eye for another five years until being inspired by former bandmate Paul Mccartney's song, "Coming Up"

Coming Up inspired Lennon? Damn, that song inspired me to throw up.

Both Lennon and McCartney became pussy whipped assholes after they married. McCartney and his nursery rhymes and Lennon/Ono and their "art".

by Anonymousreply 152June 19, 2013 1:49 AM

Lennon's adultery pact: When John left Yoko for a year of reckless debauchery he told her...

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by Anonymousreply 153July 25, 2013 5:41 PM

The Beatles loon really went to town here, huh?

by Anonymousreply 154July 25, 2013 6:20 PM

[quote] Harrison was reliably shy

WTF? George Harrison was the group's biggest partier. He had far more friends than the other Beatles. He was good friends with Clapton, Roy Orbison, Eric Idle, Michael Palin, Ravi Shankhar, Mick Fleetwood, Jackie Stewart, Jeff Lynn to name just a few.

He liked all that spirituality talk but could be quite irascible and was a horny bastard, fucking lots of women outside of marriage and telling his wives, "They love me. I can't deny them." He eventually fell out with every one of his siblings, although I heard he made deathbed amends with them. He convinced Maureen Cox to have an affair with him. She did so to get back at her husband Ringo for all of his infidelities. The result - Maureen lost her husband and all of her friends. George walked away without a scratch -- he and Ringo remained pals to the end.

And for all his supposed spiritual humility, he was quite judgmental and gossipy about anyone he disliked.

Funny how Paul stopped screwing around when he married Linda. You would think of all the Beatles he'd have been the most unfaithful, since he was "the cute one." But George and Ringo were major horn dogs. John screwed around on Cynthia but stopped his fiddling about once he met Yoko, except for the May Pang incident (which seems to have been orchestrated by Yoko).

George continued to cheat on Olivia until he was too sick to do so. I guess he didn't consider it cheating since Olivia was "ok with it."

by Anonymousreply 155July 25, 2013 7:37 PM

It's so sad and disgusting that a man can fuck so much women just because he can't resist them. Actually, it's quite pathetic all this lack of loyalty towards your partner. Anyway, i don't think i can sympathize either anymore with women who marry that kind of men. Why i should? I'm tired of giving excuses to every one. Most famous people as it seems are that way. I can't sympathize and that is natural and fair for me. No more tolerance to weaknesses and to vices. There are certain moments that a person can avoid making the same mistakes all over again. Let the women or men who are with that kind of men tolerate them and write books about them in the future...

I don't know but i suddenly got pissed off. It pisses me of all this hypocrisy. Writing awesome love songs and then being so careless and inconsiderate about your other half. Other half my ass. I can't put myself on their place anymore. They wouldn't do that for me anyway. Nobody can sympathize forever. It would be ugly and silly. I feel disenchanted.

by Anonymousreply 156July 25, 2013 8:18 PM

Elton John wrote 'Empty Garden' for Lennon.

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by Anonymousreply 157August 15, 2013 8:45 PM

He (John Lennon) was completely open and uninhibited with her (Yoko), as she learned to be with him, owning up to his deepest sexual fantasies-like one of making love to a woman in her eighties, or even older, whose veined and wrinkled hands would be covered in diamonds. Over time, she became accustomed to his particular style of backhanded compliment. 'Do you know why i like you?' he remarked on one occasion. 'It's because you look like a bloke in drag. You're like a mate.' Yoko laughingly replied that she thought he must be 'a closet fag.'

Behind her own art-star egotism, Yoko was not without hang-ups either. 'I'm not an insecure artist, but as a woman i had all kinds of hesitations about myself. When i met John i was self-conscious about my appearance. I thought i was too short, my legs were the wrong shape, and i used to cover my face with my hair. My hands are so stringy in a way, my fingers and all that. I was always hiding my hands. John said to me, 'No, you're beautiful. You don't have to hide your hands, your legs are perfect, tie your hair back and let people see your face.'

Before meeting John, she maintains, she never used the word fuck. 'He told me once, 'You're too Asiatic, too Japanese, you should say 'fuck'. And a beautiful woman saying 'fuck' is really very attractive. I told him, i'm not beautiful enough to say that, but i went to the mirror and practised going 'Fuck, fuck, fuck!'

(Excerpts from John Lennon: The Life by Philip Norman)

by Anonymousreply 158August 17, 2014 11:53 AM

Where the fuck's the pic?

by Anonymousreply 159August 17, 2014 12:08 PM

He wanted to go back to England, and probably divorce Yoko. Too bad he didn't get there.

by Anonymousreply 160August 17, 2014 12:08 PM

Probably removed because it was eating up their bandwidth, R159. Here's a link to the archive.org cached version:

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by Anonymousreply 161August 17, 2014 12:12 PM

R160, you moron, support this. Where did you read that?

by Anonymousreply 162August 23, 2014 9:37 AM
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