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If Judy Garland were alive today

She'd be 89, which is certainly an age that people live to. She'd probably be in a retirement home, and visited by her children and grandchildren . What would her life had been like had she got her act together in the 1960s? Would she have hosted SNL in the 70s, or been on The Love Boat?

by Anonymousreply 12004/04/2013

Stonewall wouldn't have become the tourist hell that it is.

by Anonymousreply 112/15/2011

Momma's in the room next to me!

by Anonymousreply 212/15/2011

I imagine she'd be thinking, "How the hell did I end up in this coffin."

by Anonymousreply 312/15/2011

She would've had Olivia De Havilland's role in The Swarm.

by Anonymousreply 412/15/2011

Liza would probably have Lorna's career. And be really fucking boring.

Lorna would have Joey's career. And Joey would be tied to a bed somewhere out of sight.

by Anonymousreply 512/15/2011

[quote]Would she have hosted SNL in the 70

Betty White hosted at age 88 just last year. We could have had Judy!

by Anonymousreply 612/15/2011

She probably would've played Florida on Good Times.

by Anonymousreply 712/15/2011

Yuck. The woman had a serious expiration date.

by Anonymousreply 812/15/2011

And then there's...Judy!!

And then there's...Judy!!

And then there's..Judy!

And then there's.. Judy!


Bea Arthur would have never happened.

by Anonymousreply 912/15/2011

She could have married David Gest and saved Liza the heartache.

by Anonymousreply 1012/15/2011

The percent of people who live to be as old as 89 is relatively small. There is no guarantee that she'd be alive.

by Anonymousreply 1112/15/2011

Do you mean that if she hadn't died, she might be dead by now?

by Anonymousreply 1212/15/2011

Then Liza could call her Mommy instead of her AA sponsor (whom she calls Mommy)

by Anonymousreply 1312/15/2011

R11, "IF". "IF she were alive", not "would she?" or "could she?" It's obviously unlikely that she wouldn't be, but what if she was?

Try to play along. It's a make-believe game.

by Anonymousreply 1412/15/2011

It is NOT a make-believe game. It's a REAL game.

by Anonymousreply 1512/15/2011

She'd be selling her line of Active Senior Fashions on QVC. And selling laxatives with "Clang-Clang (The Trolly Song)."

by Anonymousreply 1612/15/2011

She would've been set to guest star on Law & Order: SVU as a wealthy, domineering matriarch, but would've had to pull out at the last minute due to "an ailment" and be replaced by Celeste Holm.

by Anonymousreply 1712/15/2011

I would've loved to see her with Liza on QVC hawking their mother-daughter line of Boyfriend Jackets.

by Anonymousreply 1812/15/2011

It's inconceiveable to even imagine her being alive now. If ever there was someone who was destined to die prematurely it was Judy Garland. She was one of those poor souls who are meant to die young, like Montgomery Clift and Marilyn Monroe.

by Anonymousreply 1912/15/2011

If Judy Garland were alive today.... predictable and unoriginal gay men would have found some other irrelevant fucked up train wreck to obsess over.

by Anonymousreply 2012/15/2011

[quote]It's inconceiveable to even imagine her being alive now.

Obviously it is conceivable, since other posters are conceiving of it.

by Anonymousreply 2112/15/2011

R11= Steven Hawkings

by Anonymousreply 2212/15/2011

Oops, I meant Stephen Hawking.

My bad.

by Anonymousreply 2312/15/2011

I was molested.

by Anonymousreply 2412/15/2011

Falcon Crest. And boning Cha Li

by Anonymousreply 2512/15/2011

So Judy gets her act together at 48, successfully goes through rehab and breaks her drug habit.

She makes a triumphant return to film as Nurse Ratchet in "Cuckoo's Nest," and finally wins her Oscar. In a canny career move, she next takes the role that would have been Beatrice Straight's in "Network," and wins her second, for Supporting Actress, the next year.

She's finally able to do Broadway, and replaces Angela Lansbury in "Sweeney Todd" when Lansbury leaves - and the show runs two more years.

Sondheim, inspired, writes a new musical for her based on the life of Sarah Bernhardt. Judy triumphs and adds Tony to her growing award stash.

Then she is offered any part she wants on "The Golden Girls," but turns it down to star in "The Rink," opposite her daughter Liza. When Liza's drug habits start impacting the show, Judy personally signs her in to the Betty Ford Clinic.

The movie version of "Sarah!" is made, and Judy collects her third Oscar.

In the 1990s, Judy, a beloved show biz elder stateswoman by that point, begins a long lesbian affair with Martina Navrotilova. She openly champions gay rights.

For her work with Kosovo orphans and refugees, Judy is awarded a Nobel Peace Prize, the first American performer ever so honored.

by Anonymousreply 2612/15/2011

"Judy personally signs her in to the Betty Ford Clinic."

And stay in Judy's Betty Ford timeshare.

by Anonymousreply 2712/15/2011

I like blue! Where's mama?

by Anonymousreply 2812/15/2011

Would I still have been molested?

by Anonymousreply 2912/15/2011

I'm afraid that to live to age 89, Judy would have had to get her act together earlier than the 1960's. By the time she was 40 she already looked as if she'd lived a hard life. If, however, she'd gotten her act together in the 1950's, say around the time of A STAR IS BORN, then living to age 89 might have actually been a possibility. Even better, let's say she got her act together while she was at Metro and completed all those films she started--Royal Wedding, The Barkleys of Broadway, and Annie Get Your Gun--along with those she should have done, like Julie in SHOW BOAT. Then her career in the fifties might have really meant something, with lots more movie musicals at different studios, as she would have by then been a free agent. Sigh. She would have done MAME on Broadway, like Jerry Herman wanted her to, and the film version of GYPSY, perhaps with Liza as Gypsy Rose Lee. There are many delectable what-ifs to this fairy tale.

by Anonymousreply 3012/15/2011

[quote]"Judy personally signs her in to the Betty Ford Clinic."

Impossible. Judy campaigns for McGovern and he beats Nixon. No second term for Nixon = no Gerald Ford = no Betty Ford = no Betty Ford Clinic = no place for Billy Joel to dry out and he dies of alcohol poisoning in 1986 = "We Didnt Start the Fire" is never released = EVERYONE WINS!

by Anonymousreply 3112/15/2011

Judy as Mame and Mama Rose really would have been something. A shame it never happened.

by Anonymousreply 3212/15/2011

The OP is the epitomy of the truly sad stereotype that sets us back decades.


by Anonymousreply 3312/15/2011

Judy as Mama Rose to Liza's Louise. Sing out, Liza.

by Anonymousreply 3412/15/2011

Judy is not dead; she lives forever in our hearts.

by Anonymousreply 3512/15/2011

R34, that would have been fantastic.

by Anonymousreply 3612/15/2011

r36, only if you could by Liza as an attractive, curvaceous stripper...

by Anonymousreply 3712/15/2011

"Obviously it is conceivable, since other posters are conceiving of it."

Oh, please. It's ridiculous to even consider the possiblity of Judy Garland surviving into her eighties. But in her last years she did LOOK like she was in her eighties.

by Anonymousreply 3812/15/2011

She and Liza would be busy counting their gay husbands.

by Anonymousreply 3912/15/2011

If Judy were still alive today, stem cell research would be a done deal.

by Anonymousreply 4012/15/2011

Wow, what stick got up r38's ass? No one made you God, r38, and just because you don't want to play doesn't mean others don't. Just leave the thread, bitch.

by Anonymousreply 4112/15/2011

I love all Judy threads. I just do.

I wish Judy had pulled her shit together after "The Pirate" and gone into high gear, doing all three of the films she was fired from, a number of those she was being thought of to do ("Show Boat", "Take Me Out to the Ball Game" "The Belle of New York") and add to those "The Band Wagon" which would have truly made it one of the best musical films ever, and the Anne Baxter role in "All About Eve" which seems written for her.

I think she would have been magnificent in "Network", and would of course been featured in a great Woody Allen movie. Her talent was unique and elevated every project she was associated with.

by Anonymousreply 4212/15/2011

"Wow, what stick got up [R38]'s ass? No one made you God, [R38], and just because you don't want to play doesn't mean others don't. Just leave the thread, bitch."

Well, aren't you just the rude, cunty queen. I feel sorry for anybody who has the misfortune of having to be in your presence for more than five minutes.

by Anonymousreply 4312/15/2011

Face it, we'd all still be in the closet. Her death set us free that night. And don't buy into the revisionist history that "legitimate" gay historians have been trying to force down our throats for years about Stonewall having nothing to do with Judy. It was THE raison d'etre. I was there.

by Anonymousreply 4412/15/2011

In a bit of brilliant stunt casting, she would have played Morrible in the original cast of Wicked.

by Anonymousreply 4512/15/2011

r44: MARY!

by Anonymousreply 4612/15/2011

Evidently r41 struck quite a nerve, control freak at r38/43: you completely deserve it for trying to be a thread shitter.

by Anonymousreply 4712/15/2011

I like the way you think, R31.

Also, smell you R44!

I do find it hard to believe that Judy would have been able to find major-league work as the years passed. She was so staunchly part of the old-fashioned notion of showbiz, I feel like she would have been seen as a relic. Of course, she'd have an audience whenever she had a new project, I just think her years of mass appeal would have remained in her past.

by Anonymousreply 4812/15/2011

If Judy had lived Lorna would have had nothing to talk about.

by Anonymousreply 4912/15/2011

She could have toured and played Vegas with George Burns; she would have made the perfect addled-brained replacement for the late Gracie Allen.

by Anonymousreply 5012/15/2011

If Judy had NOT lived, R49, Lorna would have had even less to talk about.

by Anonymousreply 5112/16/2011

It could only have been as it was.

by Anonymousreply 5212/16/2011

In her later years her way of speaking became so affected. What was that about?

by Anonymousreply 5312/16/2011

Actually there was talk -- two hour TV version of GYPSY with Judy and Liza.

by Anonymousreply 5412/16/2011

Perhaps Judy would have revealed whether she actually sang Somewhere Over the Rainbow for Frank Sinatra, with his load in her mouth.

by Anonymousreply 5512/16/2011

Still molested over here!

by Anonymousreply 5612/16/2011

"Mama Dearest"

by Anonymousreply 5712/16/2011

Maybe a career along the lines of Elaine Stritch, singing "The Ladies Who Lunch" on Broadway in COMPANY, then a few quiet years in London, followed by a big comeback with TV guest roles, a hit one-woman show, and a few late-in-life turns on Broadway in musicals like A LITTLE NIGHT MUSIC.

by Anonymousreply 5812/16/2011

She was more Margo Channing than Eve Harrington, especially by that time.

by Anonymousreply 5912/16/2011

One thing is certain. Had Judy had more survival skills and work ethic AND been able to truly kick the addictions, BROADWAY would have been her triumph post movie years. The movie musical died in the 60's.

Hell, Judy STARTED on the stage and where she was always the most at home. She would have had joined the ranks of Carol Channing, Ethel Merman and Mary Martin. SHE would have done the King and I or Hello Dolly or Mame or Follies or Sweeney Todd. Actually, Sondheim would most likely have written a show JUST FOR HER. As would Kander and Ebb and maybe even Comden and Green and Bernstein. JUDY should have been Ruth in WONDERFUL TOWN, for instance, no matter how great Roz Russell was.


Alive today? She would still be singing and probably doing some sort of television comedy (like Betty White) or a one woman show of some sort, tailored to her age. I think Judy could have still packed 'em in, if she were alive and healthy. She loved performing too much to ever give it up, I think.

by Anonymousreply 6012/16/2011

Maybe a Liza and Judy reality show like Ryan and Tatum. Cuz you KNOW those two would have had a falling out.

by Anonymousreply 6112/16/2011

R13 where is this coming from?

by Anonymousreply 6212/16/2011

I think Judy would have been perfect in just about any role that Sally Field has played; Norma Rae,Steel Magnolias, all of 'em: "I'll play 'em all and we'll stay ALL NIGHT!!!"

by Anonymousreply 6312/16/2011

Judy would have been too old for those roles at the time they were made. Sally was in her early 30s with Norma Rae, and she was 40 when she made Magnolias.

Judy would have been in her mid-50s for Norma Rae, and late 60s for Magnolias.

by Anonymousreply 6412/16/2011

Judy never could've pulled off Nora Walker. One of the treats of B&S was Sally's 10:41 meltdown. With Judy in the role, every moment would've been some manic meltdown.

by Anonymousreply 6512/16/2011

You're right, R64. I didn't do the math. Maybe in my fantasy, she remains only as old as she ever became in life, so she stayed about 47 and poor Liza became a living portrait of Dorian Gray (or is that a living portrait of Dorothy Gale?).

by Anonymousreply 6612/16/2011

"Had Judy had more survival skills and work ethic"

She sure did produce a great deal for a woman with a bad work ethic.

by Anonymousreply 6712/16/2011

R67: Judy did her best as an artist with MGM, strong husbands like Minnelli and Luft, or tough cut-throat managers like Fields and Begelman calling the shots. She had little sense of money, or how to manage her career alone.

In your defense, Mickey Rooney seemed headed for a bad ending as well, yet he's still alive. Perhaps Rooney was lucky that he was unable to maintain his major star status beyond his 20s.

by Anonymousreply 6812/16/2011

John Fricke would just die!!!!!!!!!!

by Anonymousreply 6912/16/2011

R68, those things have nothing to do with Garland's work ethic. She worked like a horse for most of her life.

by Anonymousreply 7012/16/2011

[quote]Judy would have been in her mid-50s for Norma Rae, and late 60s for Magnolias.

She'd have killed it as Ouiser Boudreaux:

'm not as sweet as I used to be.

I'm not crazy, I've just been in a very bad mood 40 years!

I'm pleasant. Damn it! I saw Drum Eatenton this morning at the Piggly Wiggly, and I smiled at the son of a bitch 'fore I couldn't help myself.

Oh! He's a real gentleman! I bet he takes the dishes out of the sink before he PEES in it!

There. My secrets out. I'm having an affair with a Mercedes Benz!

by Anonymousreply 7112/16/2011

would she and Patty Duke be friends?

by Anonymousreply 7212/16/2011

Patty adored Judy and has said it in countless interviews about Valley of the Dolls. She pulls no punches and actually blames the film's insensitive,jackass director for Judy's problems on the set. Patty is a woman I would love to have on my side in a fight. I sorely hope she gets another crack at film stardom. She really should have been cast as Mary Todd in Spielberg's Lincoln. It's not like Sally Field is exactly box office. Maybe August: Osage County? Please God!

by Anonymousreply 7312/16/2011

Watch this scene. Judy wrote these lines;

by Anonymousreply 7412/16/2011

Part two of I Could Go On Singing;

by Anonymousreply 7512/16/2011

Judy would have been magnificent in the Kathleen Turner part in "Body Heat."

by Anonymousreply 7612/16/2011

Judy would've ended up in car accident, have a stroke and had both her legs cut off while waiting to die.

by Anonymousreply 7712/16/2011

she would be largely forgotten

by Anonymousreply 7812/16/2011

She would have sung and done lots of Broadway until well into her sixties, at which point she would have started doing more dramatic parts in movies and tv. She would have at least two Oscars.

by Anonymousreply 7912/16/2011

Had any or all of these things happened, she wouldn't be half the legend she is today. A healthy, productive, focused Judy would have been without the pain and anguish that brought a touch of genius to her performances. The line "Nothing in his life became him like the leaving it" could have been written about her.

by Anonymousreply 8012/17/2011

If Mama were alive, she'd take me to the zoo... if she wasn't having one of her little spells.

by Anonymousreply 8112/17/2011

So if she had lived, and it were a just universe, so she'd done the film of Mame, co-starring Bea Arthur, would she have done Golden Girls too? And would Lucy's career have been better off because she wouldn't have disgraced herself?

These are the questions that keep me awake at night.

by Anonymousreply 8212/17/2011

The Wizard of Oz will never be the same.

by Anonymousreply 8312/17/2011

She might have also gotten Clarabelle in "Stone Pillow" which would've freed Lucy up to do "Dressed to Kill" (was first choice for Angie Dickinson part but had to pass because of scheduling conflicts with SP), "On Golden Pond" (also had a SP conflict), and "Fried Green Tomatoes" (was first choice for the role Jessica Tandy wound up playing.

by Anonymousreply 8412/17/2011

I love Judy threads too. Well done, R26. Just for fun I will serve up something a tad different:

Following her harrowing recovery from alcohol and drugs, Judy vanishes from the public eye. A few years later her book, SHATTERED RAINBOW is published. The book is a sensation and Judy becomes highly sought after as a motivational speaker. She sells out arenas and stadiums giving inspirational speeches; her audiences are comprised of not just gay men, but whole families, the desperate, the lonely, the outcasts of society. Judy's books, tapes, and videos (yese, even her exercise videos) become a cottage industry. When THE JUDY GARLAND INSPIRATION HOUR debuts on Sunday evenings, she becomes a near cult like, televangelist figure to millions. Her popularity and wealth exceed her wildest dreams. She closes every speech with OVER THE RAINBOW, backed by a 300 voice male chorus. When the AIDS crisis hits, she instantly champions the cause, raising record shattering amounts, and building hospitals and clinics.

Despite her sobriety, however, her personal life remains turbulent. She struggles with obesity and at times balloons up to 250 pounds. A brief marriage to Marlon Brando is a disaster and is quickly annulled. Although she employs her two younger children, Lorna as a "backup singer" and Joey as a grip, she is inexplicably estranged from her oldest daughter Liza. Liza is seldom seen and is said to be living in Taos New Mexico; an occasional grainy tabloid photo of her pops up once in awhile.

Although something of an enigma, Judy for years remains a unique figure on the American landscape. She is awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor by then President Clinton, with whom she is "very close friends." She travels everywhere by private jet escorted by a crackerjack team of gay militia. She lives in a fortress like compound high in the Rocky Mountains. She is accompanied everywhere by her close personal assistant, Oprah Winfrey.

(that's the best I can do, this morning, kids--enjoy!)

by Anonymousreply 8512/17/2011

I am always surprised when people bring up Judy Garland for "Mame" or "Gypsy." To me, she was totally wrong for both roles.

Also, for many years (until Lansbury) "Gypsy" was identified with Merman. The Merm's friends, like Garland and Mary Martin, would never have played Rose while Merman was alive.

by Anonymousreply 8612/17/2011

The thing is, it's not like they've invented some sort of revolutionary treatment for addiction that might have saved her, if she'd only survived long enough to get it. You only have to look at Liza to see that.

by Anonymousreply 8712/17/2011

She would have been great as the lead if they'd made a film version of the musical "Applause".

by Anonymousreply 8812/17/2011

Judy wasn't meant to be alive to 89. She was meant to be the shooting star that burst into a supernova and then went dark.

Her talent was too hysterical and enormous to contain over a long period of time. That was the key to her talent.

by Anonymousreply 8912/17/2011

Judy was a seasoned addict by the time she was 18 years old. She already knew how to store pills for later use and was willfully abusing everything.

Given the lack of knowledge about addictive behaviors and her constant need to perform to make a living, there is not much anything could have been done to save her back then. She would have had to retire for at least five years to get well and that was impossible for her.

by Anonymousreply 9012/17/2011

I agree r60.

To think she could have been one of the Golden Girls.

by Anonymousreply 9112/17/2011

I wouldn't want her as part of the Golden Girls ensemble.

She was best just by herself, with the microphone. Herself and the audience.

by Anonymousreply 9212/17/2011

Dear, loony r84 - "Fried Green Tomatoes" started filming in June, 1991, so it would have been Lucy's desiccated, cigarette smoke-ridden corpse performing the role.

She wasn't offered any of those roles, and you know it. It's your usual meme.

by Anonymousreply 9312/17/2011

Wasn't it Lucy's desiccated, cigarette smoke-ridden corpse that did "Mame"? So what's the difference?

We're just lucky that Vivian Vance didn't play Vera Charles.

by Anonymousreply 9412/17/2011

R82, in what universe did Lucille Ball, THE most beloved,most recognizable and most influential tv star on planet Earth, disgrace herself by doing MAME? Surely, it was a misstep, but to define her by that one project is ludicrous, ignorant and insulting.

by Anonymousreply 9512/17/2011

R86, You're surprised to see Judy associated with Mame? Jerry Herman, the composer says he wrote his music with Judy's voice in his head. Also was willing to pay all the costs of her taking over for Angela Lansbury, costumes, etc. even for one performance. Sadly, her doctors said she couldn't even make it through one performance.

by Anonymousreply 9612/17/2011

The ardent defense of Lucille Ball strikes me as an example of the inexplicable intensity of some of the discussions here. Who cares what invisible strangers think?

by Anonymousreply 9712/18/2011

R90 there was a period when Garland's mother seriously considered taking her out of the business and back to Minnesota.

by Anonymousreply 9812/18/2011

R96: Garland was very witty and sophisticated in real life, but not as a character in movies (with one 20 minute exception). Judy in "Mame" may be a good idea for myself and other gay men, but almost certainly not for the general public in the 1960s.

by Anonymousreply 9912/18/2011

As concert dates dry up, Judy finds herself broke, again, and takes to staying with friends. These stays usually last a few weeks before her she is politely asked to leave. In 1976, she rekindles a friendship with Hedy Lamar, her costar in Ziegfeld Girl. The two go on a shoplifting spree arcoss the nation. Judy is ultimately arrested, but her bail is paid by Marlon Brando. A brief marriage to Marlon Brando is a disaster and is quickly annulled. (r85 had it correct). In 1984, Judy makes headlines again when she is identified as the driver in a hit-and-run incident, in which a young Hally Barre is injured.

by Anonymousreply 10012/18/2011

Look at this clip of the pre-Oz Judy. She's about 14 or 15 here, and utterly self-assured. Compare this to the frail, jittery mess she was ten years later. If Judy had never started on uppers and downers in the first place, we would have had a strong, sure performer for many years to come.

by Anonymousreply 10112/18/2011

She'd never make it.

by Anonymousreply 10212/18/2011

I bet she would have had a featured role in the recent muppet movie.

by Anonymousreply 10312/18/2011

Thank God she isn't! I'd have to push her around in a wheelchair and change her diapers.

by Anonymousreply 10412/18/2011

I watched "The Judy Garland Christmas Show." The "Glee" parody was spot on. I am surprised that Garland lacked the skills to be a good host. Her nervous chatty conversations with the guests were painful to watch. And everyone says Judy was witty and fun in real life...strange.

But, I am glad the show is on DVD. It was nice to see Joey seem normal and happy, given what his life would eventually become.

by Anonymousreply 10512/19/2011

She'd have sung "Losing My Mind" in the film of Follies, with Ann Miller singing "Who's That Woman?", Joan Crawford (and her dubber) singing "I'm Still Here", Heddy Lamarr "singing" "Ah, Paris", Nancy Walker singing "Broadway Baby" etc.

by Anonymousreply 10612/19/2011

It seems likely that we'd hear "Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas" a bit less often.

She blew the lyric, incidentally -- or the lyricist did. Makes no sense that "faithful friends who are near to us will be dear to us once more." If you reverse "dear" and "near," THAT makes sense.

by Anonymousreply 10712/25/2011

Merry Christmas, bitches!

by Anonymousreply 10812/25/2011

A retirement home, OP? How many stars end up in retirement homes? Pretty unlikely.

by Anonymousreply 10912/25/2011

"But, I am glad the show is on DVD. It was nice to see Joey seem normal and happy, given what his life would eventually become."

What exactly did his life "eventually become", r105

by Anonymousreply 11012/25/2011

Joey is not as bad off as the posters here claim.

He's actually a very sweet down to earth guy. Lives by himself in a townhouse that was paid for by Liza. But he's completely independent.

by Anonymousreply 11112/25/2011

She would have taken AnnE's part in Les Mis and won her gazillionth Oscar for it.

by Anonymousreply 11203/24/2013

Real truth: a dozen of overdoses prior to the one in 1969 should have killed her. It's amazing that it happened as LATE as 1969, and she could barely function anyway. And her voice was destroyed beyond repair.

by Anonymousreply 11303/24/2013

-- In the 1970s Judy Garland ruins her film career by becoming a regular in disasters films such as The Towering Inferno and Airport 1975 (in the Helen Reddy/singing nun role) followed by too many appearances in episodics such as the Love Boat and Fantasy Island when money because a desperate issue.

-- After a stint at Betty Ford's, she spends most of the 1980s and 1990s on Broadway, salvaging her legacy in such terrific shows as "Sugar Babies", "Gypsy" and "Follies" (singing I'm Still Here") and working tirelessly for NY AIDS charities such as Broadway Cares.

-- In 2007, Garry Marshall makes the inspired decision to cast Judy as Lindsay Lohan's grandmother in "Georgia Rule". Garland has glorious reviews and Hollywood prepares to finally award her with the Oscar that eluded her for so many decades. However, in one of the biggest upsets of all time, AnnE Hathaway ends up winning (for Rachel Getting Married) ... the fury that ensues causes the long-delayed Stonewall Riots to happen after all.

-- In 2010, Judy and her daughter Liza end up on a very special season of "Dr. Drew's Rehab".

-- In 2013, refreshed and inspired by her amazing experience working with Ms. Garland, a clean and sober Lindsay Lohan wins her first Oscar when she, not Hathaway, is Fantine in the "Les Miz" ... Hathaway is more than OK about this as she wins her 2nd Oscar (this time for "Silver Linings Playbook"). The DL has to shut down the website for 2 weeks following the online chaos that ensues on this site.

by Anonymousreply 11403/24/2013

The perfect storm, R114. Not bad at all.

by Anonymousreply 11503/24/2013

r114, she actually would have lost to Marion Cotillard in La Vie en Rose. Rachel Getting Married came out in 2008.

Judy's reaction would have been:

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by Anonymousreply 11803/28/2013

She would have died next weekend at the Motion Picture Home in woodland Hills, Calif. All three of her children and a couple of her formre husbands would be at the bedside.

by Anonymousreply 11903/28/2013

Howard Stern plays the drunken Judy Garland tapes.

by Anonymousreply 12004/04/2013
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