Another Canadian home show where a set of twins convinces people to buy dumps and then renovate. What the Hell is up with Canadians? These house are complete tear downs, most uninhabitable and they sell for $400,000 and upwards. Who the hell pays those prices for these hellholes?
HGTV'S Property Brothers
|by Anonymous||reply 57||09/02/2013|
Because as P.T. Barnum once quipped, there's one born every minute.
Don't get me wrong, there is a gorgeous Victorian down the street that is somewhat dilapidated but I'd love to restore her.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||11/26/2011|
I guess all the Canadians here are embarrassed we know know they pay ridiculous prices for shacks.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||11/26/2011|
They buyers I've seen on the three times I've watched the show have all been entitled assholes. There was one Asian couple who kept changing their minds and second-guessing the contractor brother throughout the renovation. There was another couple (Caucasian--the wife had nasty frizzy hair), and they were bitches, too (even the husband). They entered one of the properties (obviously people were still living there), and she said "It smells." Then she cowered as she walked through the house, afraid to touch the walls.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||11/26/2011|
Some of those buyers are beyond ridiculous. Those women need to get over themselves.
I feel sorry for the twins sometimes.
The houses can't be complete disasters, because they all end up looking amazing.
I guess Toronto is a really expensive town to live in.
|by Anonymous||reply 4||11/26/2011|
Doesn't anyone think these twin brothers are hot? I do.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||11/26/2011|
That goes without saying, R5.
Why else watch yet another home improvement show?
|by Anonymous||reply 6||11/26/2011|
One of them - the contractor - is a dead ringer for Harry Connick Jr !
|by Anonymous||reply 8||11/27/2011|
Aren't they identical twins?
|by Anonymous||reply 9||11/27/2011|
I hated it when the 'decorator' brother had those dumb highlights in dark brown hair. I guess they did it so you could tell them a part. They both need to shave. That 6 day stubble look has to go. They just look seedy. They are too pale to pull that gruff and grimy look off. I think they did it so they would not look gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||11/27/2011|
I like that show. It does train you to see past the superficial and try to imagine underlying potential if you look at real estate.
Sometimes their ideas get a little too crafty/trendy, e.g. the graffiti wall in the dining room. You just know those polite homeowners painted right over that. And the inevitable crises are clearly fake reality show drama.
Decorator brother's blond highlights were odd, but so is the current uniformly brown dye job to cover it up. Looks like he did it himself.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||11/27/2011|
I agree, R11 - totally fake drama on this show, just like on 'Love It or List It', especially on 'Love It'. The script is always the same. But I still watch both shows.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||11/27/2011|
One good thing about this show that puts it above most of the others: The brothers come across as real and genuine, unlike the hosts of other home shows, who amp up their obnoxiousness and scream at the camera to be engaging and funny. The only problem I have are the idiot home buyers.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||11/27/2011|
Is it.... [italic] SUBURBAN? [/italic]
|by Anonymous||reply 14||11/28/2011|
The epitome of douchey.
|by Anonymous||reply 15||11/28/2011|
Open Concept! It has to have an Open Concept!
|by Anonymous||reply 16||11/28/2011|
I hate the way Canadians pronounce 'house.'
|by Anonymous||reply 17||11/28/2011|
I want a raunchy three-way with both twins. They are hot.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||12/11/2011|
The Kitchen Cousins are much hotter.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||12/11/2011|
Why do you think they're douchey, R15? They actually seem pretty cool.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||12/11/2011|
They can seem douchey, especially in the beginning where they take the couple to a million-dollar home that they can never afford.
But then they make everything better.
The more I watch the Kitchen Cousins the more I am convinced that they might not really be cousins or related in any way.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||12/11/2011|
I like Kitchen Cousin Anthony. He's so hot, and has nice furry forearms.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||12/11/2011|
Wow - Canadians have watched some pretty bad American TV for years and still we don't hate you. Why do you hate us!
|by Anonymous||reply 24||01/02/2012|
I live for the first 7 minutes of the PB shows when they take buyers on a tour of their over-budget dream house.
Those houses are exactly what I'd love to live in if I could afford them. The chef's kitchens and luxury en suite master baths are to die for! But the upper 6 figure/low 7 figure price tag fir those places just kills me.
I'm very late to the HGTV party and only started watching "House Hunters" and "Property Brothers" this summer. I love the marathon airings.
But I can see how potential buyers who follow these shows start to develop tastes for the same dozen or so characteristics, i.e. open chef's kitchen w/stainless steel appliances and granite countertops; hardwood floors; huge master suite and luxury bathroom, etc.
I'm single (and median) income in L.A. and have made my peace with the fact that I'll probably rent my whole life. It kills me to see these cute houses in smaller cities for under $200K.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||01/02/2012|
[quote] These house are complete tear downs, most uninhabitable and they sell for $400,000 and upwards. Who the hell pays those prices for these hellholes?
Well OP, since the buyers want all of the latest trends but can't afford houses that have already been updated, nor do they have the money for a new build, these houses are the only options.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||01/02/2012|
One thing that continually bothers me about the Property Brothers show is that the buyers often select a house that needs renovations all through the house, but only half of the house seems to get renovated.
(Ex: they end up with a totally updated chef's kitchen and dining/living rm downstairs, but there's never any mention of the grotty upstairs bathrooms needing a complete overhaul as well.)
I always get the feeling that only half of the house is renovated. That would seem strange to live in house with a modern/updated downstairs but gross rusty bathrooms upstairs.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||01/02/2012|
How exciting, R8!
|by Anonymous||reply 28||01/02/2012|
Totally agree, R27.
Sometimes they do mention that they only have the budget for one or the other but I haven't seen that lately.
Maybe they only show the biggest changes? I would rather do the kitchen and the bathrooms instead of breaking down walls or putting crown molding or fireplaces.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||01/02/2012|
". It does train you to see past the superficial and try to imagine underlying potential if you look at real estate."
Like DUH, how dumb can you be -- or ACT for the camera?
|by Anonymous||reply 30||01/02/2012|
It might be a Canaian show but it doesn't air on Canadian HGTV.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||01/05/2012|
Canadian dollars, OP?
|by Anonymous||reply 32||01/05/2012|
It'market value for the city they are in. If you live in a major city like Toronto, San Francisco, etc. $400k doesn't buy much so don't think people are suckers as the price of a large single family home in say Dallas with 3500 sq. feet would buy a studio with 500 sq ft in New York. Many people sheltered from these urban areas face sticker shock.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||04/20/2012|
[quote] It might be a Canaian show but it doesn't air on Canadian HGTV.
It airs on the W Network in Canada, part of Corus.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||04/20/2012|
My issue with PB is that they essentially convince these couples to buy the shitty homes based on a visualization of what they can do for the budget that is easily affordable. Then the house costs 50,000 more than they thought. That may be fine if the reno budget was 150,000, but where it was 80,000 before the purchase of the house, it is fraud.
I know they mention, "hey this is going to change the budget", but I have never seen them say that the buyer really needs to think hard about the fact that they are now ONLY going to get a kitchen and the rest of the rats nest that they are now in a bidding war over is only going to get a nice cleaning.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||04/20/2012|
I want to fuck the little Kitchen Cousin while his bear cousin fucks me.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||04/20/2012|
those Canadians have washrooms in their hoooses.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||04/20/2012|
[quote]These house are complete tear downs, most uninhabitable and they sell for $400,000 and upwards. Who the hell pays those prices for these hellholes?
No, they're not "complete tear downs."
They might be uninhabitable for you, but all that I have seen were obviously lived in (and not by squatters) up until the time they were put up for sale. Having been inside of thousands of houses, I can assure you that different people live in very different ways.
The pricing reflects the local market; otherwise, it would be more in the producers interest to buy the houses for $18,000 rather than $480,000 because the transformations could then be more dramatic. (Why, in Vail, Colorado is a 2-bedroom condo that would be rather generic but for its location priced at $5M? Why do 8-bedroom, 8-bath historic mansions in Detroit go begging for offers against $400,000 asking prices?)
|by Anonymous||reply 38||04/20/2012|
Need to consider house in objective manner, @ if foundation is good, walls without cracks plus a great roof most of those house are worth renovating (up to code)I should know husband & I bought a rental Bungalow that was built 1915, double brick walls, great foundation but needed lots of TLC. Paid $50,000 in 1990, front of park. 1800 sq ft maple flooring. A contractor friend replaced all ceilings & wiring, kitchen from 1915 era, plus new bathroom fixtures including walk in tempered glass shower with large towel cabinet. Added tankless water heater,central heating & high efficiency appliances. New front door/trim around windows (28 large),commercial Georgia pacific metal roof. House has recently appraised @ $180,000 lots of great compliments. Small guest house. A proud homeowner.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||04/25/2012|
Why is it that the brothers or any other shows, venture into a poor neghborhood? Why not try to do a reno in Bedsty? I think the work that the brothers do is all well and good, but I still find it hard to believe that they can do all that work in the time given and the budget.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||05/01/2012|
The renos are usually of dilapidated houses that are still in desireable neighborhoods. The show is property brothers, not habitat for humanity, r40.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||05/01/2012|
I you know anything about the real estate market is that it is a supply and demand driven business. If you want a house, you pay market value. The reason that houses cost so much in Canada is that we didn't collapse our entire economy by buying sub-prime mortgages that we couldn't afford. Our real estate market is very hot due to the greater prosperity we enjoy in this country.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||06/03/2012|
It could be that the land values of these dumpy tear downs are higher than the actual house. I live in a mature neighborhood which is sought after due to it's location and schools etc. The lots go for over $300,000 and alot of the homes are older. If you buy a new build here you would be paying more than 1 million. So it would make sense to pay that amount here.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||07/10/2012|
My sister lives in a house that wouldn't sell for 150 if the land it's on wasn't worth about a million. The buyer will, and should, tear it down without walking inside.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||07/10/2012|
"Another Canadian home show where a set of twins convinces people to buy dumps and then renovate. What the Hell is up with Canadians? These house are complete tear downs, most uninhabitable and they sell for $400,000 and upwards. Who the hell pays those prices for these hellholes?"
You sound like the homeowners-unable to see beyond the mess to what it can be.
What always gets me is how they manage to reno a master bath and kitchen for $40k....
Hubby and I are bidding on a house at sheriff sale tomorrow. Right now it does look pretty bad-but there are hardwood floors that with a little bit of work will look amazing. Both bathrooms must be gutted. The kitchen has an okay counter top so we will repaint the cupboards and put on new hardware.
The previous owner owed $78k and that usually means it will be available for about half that. We are hoping to get it for $35k then spend $45k and end up with a house that appraises for $130k. Keep in mind the area in which we live has low priced homes. Around here a $500k home would be a mini mansion. We currently live in a 7 year old 2200 sq. ft. house,3 bedrooms,2 baths,living room, formal dining room family room -full unfinished basement,3 car garage on 3 acres in the country. We just got it appraised and it was $145k.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||08/13/2012|
I watch the show but the breakdown of the segments really bugs me. They spend so much time touring the homes and showing their negative comments. They give the renovations about 3 minutes. I'm far more interested in seeing how they renovated such an ugly place. We get that the buyers have no vision; that could be short-cutted so that they could spend more time showing the renovations. That's what's interesting.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||08/13/2012|
Has to be Canadian Dollars because some of these shit holes have bidding wars. Oh and the reduced budgets are for dramatic effect. These shows aren't made for free. They have budgets and that includes adding into the costs when necessary.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||08/13/2012|
You do realize the Canadian dollar is pretty well on par,don't you?
The US dollar isn't what it used to be and Canada is the only country in the G8 that didn't close a bank thanks to the Lefties.
House prices in Toronto and Vancouver are the way they are because people want to move to and live in these cities.
It's supply and demand and it's the dirt the houses are sitting on that's worth the $$$ ,not necessarily the house itself.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||08/13/2012|
Where do these people get the money from? I don't thinl its real. The budgets would have to be cash budgets for the renovation since the mortgage wont pay for that. Si buy a gouse in a 250,000 neighborhood then spend 75,000 to make it look like a 750,000 house but at the end of the day because of the neighbor hood its still only worth 250,000.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||08/21/2012|
But are either of them gay?
|by Anonymous||reply 50||08/21/2012|
I know you have to work fast to finish your houses, but I live in a small mobile home and it is falling apart. I wish I had more cupboard space. So when I see a perfectly cupboard torn apart it makes me a little up set because I think of someone like me, who could use those cupboards. I would love some of the countertops most people think are ugly and outdated, that would not bother me. I do love your show and you amaze me with the things you can do to an old house. I just had to vent. Thank you for listening to me. Your United States friend.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||08/24/2012|
Another vote for Kitchen Cousins. The PB's seem nice, though, How they put up with their clients is a mystery.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||08/24/2012|
I've come to almost like the show, mostly because the brothers seem earnest and reasonably professional. They come off as far less flashy than so most HGTV/Scripps Networks TV hosts - who might as well be hosting a show about clay pigeon shooting or the home manufacture of cotton candy or Civil War dentistry. The PBs, though, are nmostly about the project at hand and not about hamming it up.
Their clients really are royal pains in the ass in many cases. It's rare that the initial "hard truth" of touring the dream house that they describe --but can't afford by a country mile-- makes any impression at all. When shown that their $400,000 budget buys a small, broken down hovel, they get uppity and start ranting that for a half-million dollars, they have certain expectations and will not compromise. They're firmly of a belief that their $400,000 is worth three times anyone else's $400,000.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||08/24/2012|
Call me crazy, but I think Drew and Jonathan are smart and sexy. Their clients are dumb asses but they handle them well.
|by Anonymous||reply 54||12/22/2012|
I condole you, r51.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||12/22/2012|
I believe one is gay and one is straight. Its cool. I hate the brothers competing against each other, I like it better when the realtor brother finds property to fix up and then they work together to make it amazing. The new show stinks. I would like to marry the straight twin.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||09/02/2013|
But which is which, Barb in Wyoming?!?
|by Anonymous||reply 57||09/02/2013|