Woody Allen's 'Manhattan' (1979)
Personally, I have mixed feelings about it.
Mariel Hemmingway drowned every scene she was in with her Minnie Mouse voice and that great 'climactic romantic moment' when Woody goes to find her before she leaves for London makes me feel sick.
But there was a lot I liked and some very funny lines.
The unfaithful husband, played by, Michael Murphy, was ripped straight off from Unmarried Woman, he even used the same actor for goodness sake.
What do you think of it?
|by Anonymous||reply 48||11/17/2012|
Creepy. Woody casts himself to fuck a gIrl who looks and sounds 12.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||10/29/2011|
I never understood why he cast Hemingway. Yes, the voice was horrendous, but mostly - she's a [italic]really[/italic] bad actress.
Lot's of good things in it. One of my favorites (of his) actually. Could have been improved by 50% with a different actress in that role.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||10/29/2011|
Nicely photographed. But 32 years later, there's really no THERE there, is there?
|by Anonymous||reply 4||10/29/2011|
[quote] I never understood why he cast Hemingway.
The ugly, old perv wanted to fuck her.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||10/29/2011|
it is why Jessie Jackson called it hymie town
|by Anonymous||reply 6||10/29/2011|
one of the most beautiful films ever made
|by Anonymous||reply 7||10/29/2011|
[quote]Nicely photographed. But 32 years later, there's really no THERE there, is there?
I enjoyed it at the time, lovely cinematography and music. That might have been Meryl's prettiest moment on screen. But I've never felt the urge to watch it again.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||10/29/2011|
Meryl is quite good in her utter disdain for Woody. I love the hair all in one side too!
|by Anonymous||reply 9||10/29/2011|
I love the look on Woody's face at the end of the movie when Mariel's character says he should learn to have a little more faith in people, it says a lot without him saying a thing. I love the look of this movie and the music and a few scenes here and there (the ending especially) but it's not one that I watch over and over like Crimes and Misdemeanors, Love and Death or Hannah and her Sisters.
|by Anonymous||reply 10||10/30/2011|
Stardust memories is better
|by Anonymous||reply 11||10/30/2011|
I would also term it a great movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||10/30/2011|
The casting of Hemingway was good because if she was more a conventionally hot young girl then Woody would have looked like more of a perv. Heminway's gangly quality worked better.
I agree with the above poster. I make a point of seeing CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS and HANNAH AND HER SISTERS every year but don't with MANHATTAN.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||10/30/2011|
Woody Allen was the best friend to New York real estate speculators ever. His films played a huge part in remaking the image of Manhattan from the dirty, crime-ridden hole of the John Lindsay era into the glamorous enclave of the affluent elite under Giuliani and Bloomberg, mainly by pricing the poor and middle-class into the outer boroughs and beyond. And then Woody's own public image got sucked into Soon-Yi Previn's pussy and he had to find other places to make films in.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||10/30/2011|
"The casting of Hemingway was good because if she was more a conventionally hot young girl then Woody would have looked like more of a perv. Heminway's gangly quality worked better."
Any young girl would have made him look like a perv. Like every straight man, Allen thinks he can punch above his weight when it comes to women. While that may work in real life because of his money and fame, in his movies it's cringe-inducing.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||10/30/2011|
LOVE the opening sequence.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||10/30/2011|
R14 is correct. And part and parcel of Allen's sanitized, rarified view of NYC was the notable absence of non-whites, white ethnics (other than Jews), working-class, and G&L characters from almost all of his movies.
When Spike Lee was first on the scene and critics kept calling him "the black Woody Allen," he took exception. And they wondered why he wasn't more grateful for the comparison...
|by Anonymous||reply 18||10/30/2011|
So did the entire Academy want to fuck her when they nominated her for an Oscar for this movie?
It is indeed a great movie.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||10/30/2011|
"What about Vincent Van GOCCCCCCCCCGHHHH?!!"
|by Anonymous||reply 20||10/30/2011|
I love the scene in the Museum of Modern Art where Diane dislikes the art Woody and Mariel like and then loves the art they hate. I've met *many* people like her who always has to have the opposite opinion.
|by Anonymous||reply 21||10/30/2011|
and Woody gets insecure because his taste and self-image is thrown into question by what he perceives as Diane's utter contempt. Naturally, he then becomes attracted to her!
|by Anonymous||reply 22||10/30/2011|
Joan Didion's very interesting take:
In fact the paradigm for the action in these recent Woody Allen movies is high school. The characters in Manhattan and Annie Hall and Interiors are, with one exception, presented as adults, as sentient men and women in the most productive years of their lives, but their concerns and conversations are those of clever children, “class brains,” acting out a yearbook fantasy of adult life.
Full piece at the link.
|by Anonymous||reply 23||10/30/2011|
It's clever the way Woody & Diane meet again, at a fundraiser. He sees her differently in a different light. It's very real and romantic. Then they go and sit under the bridge. It's the scenes with Mariel that drag. We know now why he cast her.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||10/30/2011|
He's a dirty old pervert.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||10/30/2011|
I liked Mariel in the film. She was sweet and shy - a good contrast to the more worldly Diane character.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||10/30/2011|
Judy Davis knew how to put him in his place:
|by Anonymous||reply 27||10/30/2011|
Mariel Hemingway may have been lovely and delicate-looking as a young girl, but she's quite mannish and horsey-looking now. Here is a recent pic of her posing with her daughter. She can't even be regarded as a "handsome woman."
|by Anonymous||reply 28||11/04/2011|
I'm surprised Manhattan gets such a short thread on DL.
I loved reading the link at R23.
|by Anonymous||reply 29||11/17/2012|
I grew up poor in Appalachia and this movie was a glass of water. It's not perfect, but it's beautiful and thoughtful and it would not be made today.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||11/17/2012|
The gorgeous b and w photography and the Gershwin music make me swoon. And it's funny and insightful and touching.
|by Anonymous||reply 31||11/17/2012|
Best use of the word "homunculus" in a screenplay ever.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||11/17/2012|
For a long time, *Manhattan* was one of my favorite films. Diane Keaton is great! Say what you will about Allen's misogyny - and it's everywhere evident - he gives women room to deliver performances that other directors don't, what, "coax forth?" Goldie Hawn in *Everyone Says I Love You*! Hawn is great in that movie. Judy Davis is wonderful in *Husbands and Wives*. Anybody else who tried to play "unhinged" to that degree would have been intolerable. Allen made Dianne Wiest's career happen. He got Louise Lasser. And nobody else figured out that Mia Farrow could do that role in *Broadway Danny Rose*. Mira Sorvino has never been good in anything else. Penelope Cruz, Samantha Morton, Marion Cotillard have hardly been better in anything else.
It's a smart insight to say he made New York real estate glamorous again, and we can partly credit the city's devastating over-gentrification to Allen
I don't know how I'd feel about *Manhattan* now. I haven't seen it in about 10 years.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||11/17/2012|
Marrying that stunning cinematography to Gershwin's sublime symphony was inspired.
Beautiful opening - not so sure how the entire film holds up now but I give it the benefit. This and Manhattan Murder Mystery (Keaton and Alda are brilliant) are really great examples of his work at either end of his career.
|by Anonymous||reply 34||11/17/2012|
*Deconstructing Harry* is my favorite of his films. It's amazing how many characters and how many different little stories he can fit into 90 minutes.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||11/17/2012|
[quote]It's a smart insight to say he made New York real estate glamorous again, and we can partly credit the city's devastating over-gentrification to Allen
The gentrification of New York happened YEARS after Annie Hall & Manhattan.
He may have played his part in making people falling in love with NY and see it more positively when it was so down in the 70s and contributing to the 70s boom in NY film making.
|by Anonymous||reply 36||11/17/2012|
[quote]This and Manhattan Murder Mystery (Keaton and Alda are brilliant)
Really? I thought Keaton was pitiful in it...she was called in to replace Mia, after all the Soon Yi drama, at the last minute and it shows.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||11/17/2012|
Didion called him out on his pretentiousness, but people preferred to take a romantic view of the movie.
Didion was right, I think.
|by Anonymous||reply 38||11/17/2012|
[quote] Penelope Cruz, Samantha Morton, Marion Cotillard have hardly been better in anything else.
Penelope Cruz - Volver
Sam Morton - Morvern Callar, Jesus' Son
Marion Cotillard - La vie en rose, Rust and Bone
|by Anonymous||reply 39||11/17/2012|
r36, are you Dr. No? NYC just about went bankrupt in the mid-70s. Ed Koch started his first mayoral term on Jan 1, 1978. He was Mayor all through the Reagan years and into Bush I. Koch is the dude who started the big pimping out of Manhattan to real estate barons. Allen's *Manhattan* was released in late April 1979. Two years after the "summer of sam," 1977. Allen helped begin the rehabilitation of Manhattan and international glamor spot. The "I Heart New York" ad campaign was launched in '77, a year before Koch's election. The selling-of-Manhattan started at that moment, and has culminated in Mayor Mike's global capital, a city devastated not by poverty but wealth.
|by Anonymous||reply 40||11/17/2012|
the dearly departed "elaine's"
|by Anonymous||reply 41||11/17/2012|
[quote] I thought Keaton was pitiful in it...she was called in to replace Mia, after all the Soon Yi drama
I LOVED it, she's zany and silly, probably half-improving considering the conditions.
|by Anonymous||reply 42||11/17/2012|
Thank you r42! The chemistry with those two was fabulous. I saw it at an amazing old movie house that was closing down soon after - they gave me the poster.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||11/17/2012|
this is the radio ad, part of an enormous campaign, that many credit with saving the city. even tho it's not Gershwin.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||11/17/2012|
The opening scenes with the Gershwin soundtrack is gorgeous. They showed it for free Sept. 11, 2002, and it was perfect.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||11/17/2012|
One of the greatest films of the 70's, and that's saying a lot.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||11/17/2012|