James Franco, in his latest foray into gay flim making, gives a sailor a blowjob in closeup. The movie has been panned by Hollywood Reporter and Variety, but they do take not of that scene describing it as explicit.
James Franco gives BJ to a Sailor in new Hart Crane Biopic
|by Anonymous||reply 221||01/25/2013|
James Franco needs to do a remake of "Querelle."
|by Anonymous||reply 1||06/21/2011|
James Franco needs to sit on my cock.
|by Anonymous||reply 2||06/21/2011|
"James Franco . . . gives a sailor a blowjob in closeup." Real or simulated?
|by Anonymous||reply 3||06/21/2011|
The rumor, of course, is that Franco was actually sucking real cock. lol
|by Anonymous||reply 4||06/21/2011|
^^Exactly. I want a "Brown Bunny"/"Lie With Me" explicit blow job.
|by Anonymous||reply 5||06/21/2011|
Meh... I'd rather have James Franco's brother, Dave, sitting on my face. Mmmmmmmmmm. Deliciousnesspersonified.
|by Anonymous||reply 6||06/21/2011|
R3 it's real. Clearly Franco's failing career has brought him to pron.
|by Anonymous||reply 7||06/21/2011|
Here's what the article says:
"includes one entirely gratuitous shot of what may or may not actually be the first former host of an Oscar telecast performing an explicit sexual act on another man, the uncertainty stemming from the deliberate darkness in which it was filmed."
|by Anonymous||reply 8||06/21/2011|
[quote]Clearly Franco's failing career has brought him to pron.
He's the lead in one of the summer's tentpole pics, a "Planet of the Apes" prequel (which is getting excellent early buzz). I would hardly call that a "failing career," even if his Oscar hosting performance sucked ass (and not in a good way).
|by Anonymous||reply 9||06/21/2011|
It's playing at the Los Angeles Film festival. Could one of you bitches in the area view the film and give us a report?
|by Anonymous||reply 10||06/21/2011|
He's really really gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||06/21/2011|
Stop trying to make Dave Franco happen r6.
|by Anonymous||reply 12||06/21/2011|
Not so fast, R8.
|by Anonymous||reply 13||06/21/2011|
Anyway, according to the review above, because it is shot in the dark, it is left ambiguous as to whether Franco is the blow-job giver.
That's why we need input. Some of us need to see this film and provide feedback.
|by Anonymous||reply 14||06/21/2011|
Anyway the film has another explicit scene where he gets topped...
|by Anonymous||reply 15||06/21/2011|
I certainly hope JF is gay because if he isn't then I find his obsessive need to use homosexuality to boost his artistic 'edginess' and credibility a little insulting. Can't we tell our own stories?
|by Anonymous||reply 16||06/21/2011|
The ambiguity is not in whether Franco is the giver, r14, but in whether he is actually doing it or merely simulating the act.
|by Anonymous||reply 17||06/21/2011|
R12, the only thing I want happening about Dave Franco is him inside of me. Ugh, so much more fucking hot than his brother.
|by Anonymous||reply 18||06/21/2011|
Um? James has Dave beat by a fucking long shot. I want the older brother!! Let Dave play with his hotwheels.
|by Anonymous||reply 19||06/22/2011|
He sounds desperate. He got some bad press from the Oscars where he put everyone to sleep. I guess that's what he considers damage control.
|by Anonymous||reply 20||06/22/2011|
"...but they do take not of that scene describing it as explicit"
|by Anonymous||reply 21||06/22/2011|
He shot this movie before the Oscars debacle, for what it's worth. Not that he's not an attention whore, but at least he's got the common decency to prove the "whore" part right in full view of us all for masturbatory purposes.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||06/22/2011|
From the Variety review:
"But the drama is lacking apart from the scenes that directly involve action -- and not just the sexual variety, Crane's couplings with one of his sailor boyfriends are presented quite explicitly."
The sailor boyfriend is played by Michael Shannon, so all I can saw is EWWWWW. Shannon is a fugly as they come. (pun intended)
|by Anonymous||reply 23||06/22/2011|
As predictably as the tides, along will come more media attention talking about how much JF loves his girlfriend.
Since he can't tell it to Oprah anymore, who's going to get the prize this time? The View coven?
|by Anonymous||reply 24||06/22/2011|
This thread is useless without pics.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||06/22/2011|
Shannon is ugly but he's not averse to full frontal nudity so maybe he'll be the blow-ee.
|by Anonymous||reply 26||06/22/2011|
Franco wants so see just how much he can do in public without coming out.
|by Anonymous||reply 27||06/22/2011|
From someone who saw the movie:
"I saw Franco's film yesterday. It is simply unwatchable. and yes SPOILER alert, he sucks d**k in a very Brown Bunny way in it."
"Well, you see his mouth and his face and you see something going in his mouth.. it may be a dildo, but he goes there and he seems to enjoy it.."
|by Anonymous||reply 28||06/22/2011|
Does he take a facial?
|by Anonymous||reply 29||06/22/2011|
R20, I am sure this movie was in the works long before the Oscar telecast which was just four months ago.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||06/23/2011|
Anyone here seen it yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 31||06/23/2011|
Michael Shannon is my brilliant fantasy joli-laid boyfriend. I don't know who you people are.
|by Anonymous||reply 32||06/23/2011|
So let's recap.%0D %0D A major American movie star is playing a gay role, as he often has, and in this role is going down on a guy, filmed in such a way as it suggests it could have been real.%0D %0D And you bitches are complaining about this.%0D %0D What the fuck is wrong with y'all?
|by Anonymous||reply 33||06/23/2011|
|by Anonymous||reply 34||06/23/2011|
You can see the splooge running down his chin!
|by Anonymous||reply 35||06/23/2011|
Have you seen it, R35?
|by Anonymous||reply 36||06/23/2011|
[quote]And you bitches are complaining about this. What the fuck is wrong with y'all?%0D %0D NO! WE'RE NOT!!!!! WTF is wrong with you that you're obviously doing a "recap" of stuff you only imagine is on the page? Are you drunk?%0D %0D You sound like one of the idiots who reads ONE person saying they don't like something and you immediately post, "Why does everyone at DL hate...?" It's stupidity that we hate.
|by Anonymous||reply 37||06/23/2011|
I hate this overrated hack!
|by Anonymous||reply 38||06/23/2011|
I used to like him but have found him annoying lately. Still, this type of forgettable indie film will hardly do anything to harm his career. He was nominated for an oscar a few months ago and is in a big summer movie. I have a feeling that he will coast along even without any hit movies for a while. But his off-screen antics are starting to be distracting.
|by Anonymous||reply 39||06/23/2011|
So are any of you bitches in the LA area going to see it at the festival and give us a report?
|by Anonymous||reply 40||06/23/2011|
Well, he never sucked my cock!
|by Anonymous||reply 41||06/23/2011|
[italic]The second is an oral sex scene between Crane and another man that at one point gets so explicit as to all but guarantee an NC-17 rating. (Though the scene is dimly lit, it clearly shows Franco performing oral sex on what is reportedly a prosthetic penis.) [/italic]
|by Anonymous||reply 42||06/23/2011|
So it's a prosthetic? If so, that's disappointing.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||06/23/2011|
If this scene was a genuine sexual encounter, wouldn't the film crew have spread the word about it? It would seem too risky, even if Franco wanted to blow the guy for real.
|by Anonymous||reply 44||06/23/2011|
and it seems so meta po-mo of him to use a prosthetic ...
|by Anonymous||reply 45||06/23/2011|
this attention whore needs to go away!
|by Anonymous||reply 46||06/23/2011|
Well, at least he's getting attention for his artistic endeavors (whether good or bad) and not for drug arrests, drunken driving or tossing off epithets at minorities. I'd rather endure media attention on Franco than Lohan or Mel Gibson or Chris Brown, etc.
|by Anonymous||reply 47||06/23/2011|
Do you bitches really think James Franco has to make a movie to blow someone if he wants to??? Really??? The basement fumes must be getting to you.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||06/23/2011|
No one thinks he has to make a movie to blow someone. But it's just like him to want to reveal himself to the world with a cock in his mouth, "prosthetic" or not.
|by Anonymous||reply 49||06/23/2011|
I used prosthetics on my soldiers in Salo to make them look inordinately huge.
|by Anonymous||reply 50||06/23/2011|
That is just so tacky.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||06/23/2011|
[quote]Still, this type of forgettable indie film will hardly do anything to harm his career.
|by Anonymous||reply 52||06/23/2011|
Is r52 joking? Or has he never heard of HBO's Big Love?
Also, Franco sucking on a dildo is still hot.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||06/23/2011|
r37, I said you bitches are complaining about it for the following reasons:
r7: Franco has a failing career and had to resort to porn
r16: if Franco is straight his obsessive need to use homosexuality to boost his career by proving that he's edgy is insulting
r20: Franco's desperate
r22: Franco's an attention whore
not to mention a couple complaining about Michael Shannon being fugly and the one about him wanting to see how much he can get away with without actually coming out
I think that's enough for me to react the way I did
|by Anonymous||reply 54||06/23/2011|
It's a very low budget film. We're talking the film crew being the extras and actors at the same time. lol The co-lead Michael Shanon is friends with James and brother Dave is also there. So this film was never going to be award winning or anything. I think the bad reviews are coming from people who were expecting something "greater". It's obvious this is a very small film, and if you don't mind low budget productions it's not a bad film.
As for the sex scenes, one in particular, Franco really does go there. lol I'm assuming it was a dildo (?) he really seems to fit a lot in his mouth.
|by Anonymous||reply 55||06/23/2011|
Stop dancing around the gay thing, James. Yeah, you were in Milk. Yeah, you played James Dean. Yadda, Yadda, Yadda. %0D %0D Don't wait until your 70 to come out of the closet.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||06/23/2011|
so you've seen it, R55?
|by Anonymous||reply 57||06/23/2011|
Having a guy's cock in your mouth doesn't make you gay!
|by Anonymous||reply 58||06/23/2011|
Jake atr56, you do know it's "until you're 70" and not "until your 70."
|by Anonymous||reply 59||06/23/2011|
SOOOOooo tired of Franco.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||06/23/2011|
JF is naturally very goodlooking and hunky, but I find it distasteful that he deliberately tries to look disheveled and emaciated. He seems to think that you have to be dirty and subculture in order to be deep and thoughtful.
|by Anonymous||reply 61||06/23/2011|
Any leak out any screencaps?
|by Anonymous||reply 62||06/23/2011|
Speaking of leaking out, I wonder if he spits or swallows?
|by Anonymous||reply 63||06/23/2011|
[quote]Speaking of leaking out, I wonder if he spits or swallows?
He swallows prosthetic semen.
|by Anonymous||reply 64||06/24/2011|
If you think JF was a poor host at the Oscars, wait till you get a load of his....
He's no Peter Allen.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||06/24/2011|
No, R54, you complained that people were making a fuss about the way the guy was giving a blow job in this film. %0D %0D Now you [bold]pretend[/bold] you were complaining over comments that:%0D %0D --- Franco has a failing career and had to resort to porn%0D %0D --- if Franco is straight his obsessive need to use homosexuality to boost his career by proving that he's edgy is insulting%0D %0D --- Franco's desperate%0D %0D --- Franco's an attention whore%0D %0D Have you ever learned to FOCUS?
|by Anonymous||reply 66||06/24/2011|
"Stop dancing around the gay thing, James. Yeah, you were in Milk. Yeah, you played James Dean. Yadda, Yadda, Yadda.
Don't wait until your 70 to come out of the closet."
That's exactly the logic that makes me believe Clooney is straight. After all, he's always playing straight men, he must not be gay.
Makes about as much sense, people.
I have no idea if Franco is gay or not. But I'm not going to assume that he's gay because he's always playing gay men. If anything I think an actor who has never held himself out to be gay is comfortable playing gay men frequently, it suggests to me, although he might well be gay, that he is more likely straight. He strikes me as someone who'd be happy to come out if he were gay. He also doesn't strike me as a closeted guy who shies away from gay roles. Then again, he could be gay and simply not ready to announce it publicly.
My point is to assume the opposite, that he must be gay because he plays gay roles so often is as logical as assuming that the many actors who never play gay roles, including those who never would consider playing a gay role, are straight.
It doesn't work that way.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||06/24/2011|
r31 HAS anyone seen it? Do not forget your little helping verb. If you don not include it, you sound MORONIC!
|by Anonymous||reply 68||06/24/2011|
If you don not include it, you sound MORONIC!
|by Anonymous||reply 69||06/24/2011|
I think people tend to forget there's also "Bisexuality ". He might be telling the truth when he says he's not gay.
The movie is worth a look imo. As a director Franco is still learning, so hopefully he'll keep getting better as he get's more experience under his belt. His heart is in the right place, I like his ideas, he just needs to focus in the direction he wants his films to take.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||06/24/2011|
Even if he's sucking a dildo, what other mainstream actor -- gay, straight or oherwise, would be seen in a scene like like?
|by Anonymous||reply 71||06/24/2011|
"If you think JF was a poor host at the Oscars, wait till you get a load of his...."
As much as I love him, he's increasingly coming across as a "jack of all trades, master of none."
|by Anonymous||reply 72||06/24/2011|
I'd sit through his feature directing debut just to see him with a cock (real or not) in his mouth.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||06/24/2011|
Despite the bad reviews, I really want to see this. I'm a big Hart Crane fan.%0D %0D %0D %0D (And am I the only one who thinks Michael Shannon is cute?)
|by Anonymous||reply 74||06/24/2011|
I think he's straight but would love him for the team.
|by Anonymous||reply 75||06/24/2011|
[quote](And am I the only one who thinks Michael Shannon is cute?)
Definitely not! HCFMH.
|by Anonymous||reply 76||06/24/2011|
It's strange that a self-proclaimed "I'm not gay" dude, he is sure obsessed with all things homosexual. If you've seen his art show, it's nothing but penises for godsakes!
I think he's bi with leaning towards men now. He has not been seen with a female at all.
|by Anonymous||reply 77||06/24/2011|
[quote]He has not been seen with a female at all.%0D %0D That's not true. You're sounding like a Benderson frau when you post fairytales like that.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||06/24/2011|
Well, r78, what female has he been seen with? The last female I saw him with was Anne Hathaway, and that didn't work out too well.
|by Anonymous||reply 79||06/24/2011|
He's an okay actor and terrible wanna-be director and writer. All the time smirking in people's faces thinking everything is a joke and thinking he's brilliant. Yawn.
|by Anonymous||reply 80||06/24/2011|
[quote]Well, R78, what female has he been seen with?%0D %0D Well, R79, you claimed, "He has not been seen with a female at all," and now you're saying you saw him with Anne Hathaway. What's with the baloney? Why do you persist in your fairytale? %0D %0D Do you honestly think everyone takes names and adddress of every female he has ever been seen with? There's no doubt now that you're one of the silly Benderson fraus who posts the "They are ALWAYS together" vomit despite the fact that they can be a half dozen states apart. %0D %0D The link below will take you to the James Franco thread from 05/25/2010 where it was stated "he introduced his girlfriend today on Oprah." No, I didn't keep track of it. A simple Google search put it in the #1 spot. Now, please go back to your Benderson thread with the other fraus. %0D
|by Anonymous||reply 81||06/24/2011|
@ anonymous reply 77
"It's strange that [for] a self-proclaimed "I'm not gay" dude, he sure is obsessed with all things homosexual...."
Ah ... HELLO .... all the "self-proclaimed "I'm not GAY" guys usually are.
Reality Check: Most "straight guys" have had homosexual feelings for another guy at some point in their life....
That being said ... I applaud Franco for being daring enough to do something like that .... Could you ever imagine that hag Tom Cruise doing something like that in his career???
Actually, I want to see Adam Sandler give head in a film ... He just looks like he would be really, really good at it ....
|by Anonymous||reply 82||06/24/2011|
okay, who was his gf? Ahna has not been seen with him since 2009.
There was a recent article that stated he was miserable at playing the Hollywood game and decided to stop. I assumed he meant having a beard. Since that article, he has not been photographed with a female accompanying him. He may have fan photos or photos where he posed with women but no photos where it appears a woman is his companion.
|by Anonymous||reply 83||06/24/2011|
He's gay, but not gay-gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 84||06/24/2011|
He was sucking cock, but it wasn't cock-cock.
|by Anonymous||reply 85||06/24/2011|
Saw him last week at a party for the Frameline Festival in SF. He was talking with several people and hugging guys he seemed to know. He's obviously very comfortable with gay men but not sure if that means he's gay, bi or just a cool straight guy.
|by Anonymous||reply 86||06/24/2011|
I wonder how much practice he has had on the real thing? Maybe Dave helped him rehearse.
|by Anonymous||reply 87||06/24/2011|
Hiding in plain sight.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||06/24/2011|
[quote]If anything I think an actor who has never held himself out to be gay is comfortable playing gay men frequently, it suggests to me, although he might well be gay, that he is more likely straight.
James Franco doesn't just play gay, he lives and studies, breathes homosexuality. Has anyone every seen his student film with the naked teen boys playing basketball? I mean what straight guy is going to go out of his way to shoot naked 19 yos on a basketball court? He is studying Queer theory at Yale.
And James is not seen with any women. Yes, he has a girlfriend - who lives in California. He lives in NYC.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||06/24/2011|
He eats poo, but not poo-poo.
|by Anonymous||reply 90||06/24/2011|
He's too wierd, you guys can have him!
|by Anonymous||reply 91||06/24/2011|
Any suggestions for other biopics about gay writers James can star in?%0D %0D %0D %0D %0D I wanna see The Walt Whitman Story - with lots of footage of Walt giving guys bjs
|by Anonymous||reply 92||06/24/2011|
R88 -- more, please.%0D %0D And yes, you'd have to be out of your gourd to think Franco is straight. I mean, that's assuming you're aware of just how deeply entrenched his interests are in the world of male homosexuality. %0D %0D Ahna & James have never lived together; their mothers are friends and Ahna is more like a best friend to James than anything else. He's lived with his Rabbit Bandini partner Vince off and on for the better part of a decade. Make of that what you will. I don't know how many ways there are to interpret that, but whatever.%0D %0D I also think it's ridiculous to think he's pandering, or looking for street cred, with all his gay-themed projects. He's exploring what he's interested in. He's made his millions, now he's indulging himself (hence the self-indulgent nature of a lot of his pet projects). If anything, he's looking for approval from his professors, classmates, other writers, directors, and so on, not from Datalounge.%0D %0D And if you're tired of him, you don't need to read the thread, and you certainly don't need to register your lack of interest. Really.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||06/24/2011|
Mmm, one other thing, R61 -- James isn't trying to look like shit in order to project any certain image; he's just naturally kind of gross. He doesn't sleep enough, he doesn't shower every day. I'm sure he knows he's hot and can get away with looking ratty. I find that appealing about him, anyway. %0D %0D The prisspots on here have a lot in common with the teens and undergrads on Oh No They Didn't!
|by Anonymous||reply 94||06/24/2011|
r78/r81, I don't know if your post is for real or a parody...but I was referring to James and Anne co-hosting the Oscars.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||06/24/2011|
Still from Broken Tower
|by Anonymous||reply 96||06/25/2011|
Don't make up shit, R96. That pic was from last night.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||06/25/2011|
James Franco's next biopic should be about Walt Disney where he gives a blowjob to a guy in a Mickey Mouse costume.
|by Anonymous||reply 98||06/25/2011|
James can play the part of Tommy Kirk, who was excommunicated from Disney when Walt found out he was gay. Tommy went on to open a successful carpet-cleaning business, and has spent the last 40 years servicing male prostitutes on a regular basis.
Lots of prosthetic cock for James to suck in this one!
|by Anonymous||reply 99||06/25/2011|
"I'm sure he knows he's hot and can get away with looking ratty. "
He is aware that people often observe how bad he looks. He was on a talk show explaining life as a famous actor going back to college. He said in one class he sat next to a girl who was writing lots of notes, and he looked over and saw that one of the things she wrote was, "James Franco is in class today, and he's looking really bad."
He apparently just doesn't care about his appearance. That aspect of his person goes into the "not gay" column. Maybe it's the only thing in his "not gay" column, but it's there. Lots of real gays iron a shirt and pants to put on just to go grocery shopping.
|by Anonymous||reply 100||06/25/2011|
Uh, R100 - I know plenty of gay guys who are slobs.
|by Anonymous||reply 101||06/25/2011|
Top Five Times James Franco Went Gay!
|by Anonymous||reply 102||06/25/2011|
Hot gay guy here who smokes pot and doesn't shower on his days off....and yet I know I still look good in that grungy way Franco does.
Don't know the guy, but he certainly screams gay to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 103||06/25/2011|
R103, you sound like me. I smoke pot, almost always look disheveled, am gay & hot, and don't give a shit, either. %0D %0D I can't remember the last time I ironed a shirt. %0D %0D And now back to the barely-closeted homosexual actor James Franco...
|by Anonymous||reply 104||06/25/2011|
Also, R100 -- surely you're not suggesting, seriously, that Franco's ratty appearance is any kind of real indicator re: his sexuality? There are more things about me that are stereotypically hetero than there are things stereotypically queer, but I sure as fuck ain't straight.
|by Anonymous||reply 105||06/25/2011|
This movie will go straight to DVD.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||06/26/2011|
R103 will you marry me?
I'll spoil you and eat your hot musky ass... on workdays.
|by Anonymous||reply 107||06/26/2011|
Closet cases bore me.
|by Anonymous||reply 108||06/26/2011|
I suspect this film will be on PFV any second
|by Anonymous||reply 109||06/26/2011|
[quote] I know plenty of gay guys who are slobs.%0D %0D Perhaps we've met R101.
|by Anonymous||reply 110||06/26/2011|
[quote]Can't we tell our own stories?
We already did with "Another Gay Movie" and "Another Gay Sequel: Gays Gone Wild"
|by Anonymous||reply 111||06/26/2011|
So, poor reviews from a film festival even with a graphic BJ. It's the gay Brown Bunny.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||06/30/2011|
any screencaps leak out yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 113||06/30/2011|
Does James like doing anal with his boyfriend?
|by Anonymous||reply 114||06/30/2011|
James is probably a top.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||06/30/2011|
R115 Do you think he'd fuck me if I asked him (if I ever meet him)? What's his type?
|by Anonymous||reply 116||06/30/2011|
I doubt James restricts himself to top or bottom. He's probably the ulimtate versatile guy, in the middle of a manwhich while sucking on a fourth guy's dick.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||06/30/2011|
Are you hot, R116?
|by Anonymous||reply 118||06/30/2011|
R118 I've been told I am and I don't think I'm bad, if I do say so myself. I'm 29 and I have a nice ass too.
|by Anonymous||reply 119||06/30/2011|
Maybe you should sign up to be in one of Franco's films?
|by Anonymous||reply 120||06/30/2011|
R120 LOL. I would if I knew how/where to audition. It would be fun for a laugh!
|by Anonymous||reply 121||06/30/2011|
If you're a counter-cultural homo artiste/poet, r116, I'm sure JF would suck on a rubber dong hanging out your trousers. I should be a bit more forgiving of the pretentiousness of youth, but I find him smug & tiresome.
|by Anonymous||reply 122||06/30/2011|
R122 Oh, I totally agree - he's very smug and tiresome. But I would love to find out if he's gay or not because I get so sick of these people who immerse themselves with everything gay-related and seem obsessed with gay culture, yet deny they are gay. I just don't buy it.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||06/30/2011|
Everyone thought James was backstage doing bong hits during his offstage time on the Oscars. In reality, he was offstage sucking on dildos.
And the occasional stage hand.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||06/30/2011|
Screencap of James with a hard cock in his mouth. Notice the man-chowder running down his chin:
|by Anonymous||reply 125||06/30/2011|
|by Anonymous||reply 126||06/30/2011|
Don't tease us like that, r125. Post the damn screen cap!
|by Anonymous||reply 127||06/30/2011|
It was probably a joke from R125.
Has anyone here seen the film yet? It's playing at the L.A. festival.
Any L.A. DLer's here?
|by Anonymous||reply 128||06/30/2011|
r123, maybe because so many dudes dont want to identify with gay culture and the subculture aspects associated with it. maybe they want to just be a normal, mainstream dude without compromising their masculinity.....
|by Anonymous||reply 129||07/01/2011|
r129, you mean they hate themselves for being gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 130||07/01/2011|
He's played gay in Milk and Howl, and now this. Where there's smoke there is more than likely fire.
|by Anonymous||reply 131||07/01/2011|
R131, Monty Clift played heterosexual in just about every movie he appeared in. The only fire in that smoke was provided by his flaming.
Don't confuse characters with actors. It makes people who play Hitler nervous.
With that said, Franco is a coddled narcissist with enough money and support to endlessly play the auteur. Therefore he is apt to confuse sexual expression with social and artistic transgression and act out on all sorts of whims, lacking a center he is convinced is his own. So? It doesn't mean he's gay because he plays gay characters.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||07/01/2011|
R132 Poor argument - there weren't exactly lots of homosexual roles back in Monty Clift's day, so he didn't have much of a choice but to play straight characters.
|by Anonymous||reply 133||07/01/2011|
There's also a big difference - most actors don't spend their careers being known for gay parts.
|by Anonymous||reply 134||07/01/2011|
R133, your argument is irrelevant to the point, but you're not going to see that, are you? Why pipe in with data that may be superficially true but do not address the matter being discussed?
One does not do well to confuse an actor with his parts. Period. Go ahead and replace "Clift" with "Mary Pickford" and "straight" with "sweet virgin" and you'll be closer to the central theme than where you're aiming at. Saying that Franco is gay because he played gay in a few movies is a stupid argument. Maybe he IS gay. But it's not going to be proven by movie roles any more than you're going to prove Wesley Snipes is gay because he played a drag queen. And you're quibbling with me?
Where did you go to school? Screwdriver Remedial Tech? Or is this where you start listing your advanced degrees from top tier schools and sniff like we've seen in other threads?
|by Anonymous||reply 135||07/01/2011|
R135 = Fangurl or a terribly naive idiot.
|by Anonymous||reply 136||07/01/2011|
|by Anonymous||reply 137||07/01/2011|
It's not just his penchant for playing gay roles. It's also his other artwork and writings, which have a considerable homosexual milieu.%0D %0D I think he's hiding in plain sight, too.
|by Anonymous||reply 138||07/01/2011|
The movie was picked up by Focus Features
|by Anonymous||reply 139||08/10/2011|
So when will we get to see James giving his prosthetic blowjob?
|by Anonymous||reply 140||08/10/2011|
Sucking cock onscreen is a one-way ticket to Palookaville, kids.%0D %0D Back to TV with you now, James Franco.
|by Anonymous||reply 141||08/10/2011|
I want to lick his ass.
|by Anonymous||reply 142||08/10/2011|
Franco looks like be might be "dirty back there." Thoughts, fellow DLers?
|by Anonymous||reply 143||08/10/2011|
He name-checked the guy who's supposed to be his boyfriend while telling an anecdote on Conan last night. God help me for knowing this.
|by Anonymous||reply 144||08/10/2011|
r144,You mean Vince aka "V"
|by Anonymous||reply 145||08/10/2011|
R143 I agree. I wouldn't lick his ass. He looks like he doesn't bathe often and always looks dirty.
|by Anonymous||reply 146||08/10/2011|
James Franco stars in another movie where he doesn't have to act.
|by Anonymous||reply 147||08/10/2011|
"He name-checked the guy who's supposed to be his boyfriend while telling an anecdote on Conan last night"%0D %0D %0D %0D What did he say about him?
|by Anonymous||reply 148||08/10/2011|
[quote]James Franco stars in another movie where he doesn't have to act.%0D %0D LMAO!!!%0D %0D
|by Anonymous||reply 149||08/10/2011|
James and his longtime "business partner" Vince
|by Anonymous||reply 150||08/10/2011|
So is everyone, R143.
|by Anonymous||reply 151||08/10/2011|
They got pilots' licenses together, r148. Nothing too thrilling
|by Anonymous||reply 152||08/11/2011|
I keep trying to see the appeal about this guy, but I just can't find it.%0D %0D That shit-eating grin he gives that shows his gums makes him look like Mr. Ed when he smiles and he's always squinting like he can't open his eyes. He looks like a slob most of the time and so smug in interviews.%0D %0D You all can have him.
|by Anonymous||reply 153||08/11/2011|
R143 - but don't you think JF would be esp. odorous back there? And his taint - but that's a bit ripe.
|by Anonymous||reply 154||08/11/2011|
Speaking of James Franco, I saw him being interviewed last night about "Rise of the Planet of the Apes." I've never heard more meaningless mumbo-jumbo, artsy-fartsy crappola in my life. He will have NO difficulty knocking out a dissertation on whatever it is he does by the end of the year.
|by Anonymous||reply 155||08/12/2011|
[quote]Speaking of James Franco, I saw him being interviewed last night about "Rise of the Planet of the Apes." I've never heard more meaningless mumbo-jumbo, artsy-fartsy crappola in my life. He will have NO difficulty knocking out a dissertation on whatever it is he does by the end of the year.%0D %0D Tell me about it - he tries waaaay too hard to prove how "deep" & "intelligent" he is and it's just boring and irritating.%0D %0D I bet he's a boring fuck in bed.%0D %0D
|by Anonymous||reply 156||08/12/2011|
The blow job movie comes out in January
|by Anonymous||reply 157||12/19/2011|
This looks boring as fuck and even worse than Howl!
Even if the scene of him getting plowed was in graphic extended detail with a horse hung hunk it still wouldn't get me to watch this. Plus he looks uglee with that tache.
From writer/director James Franco? No thanks!
|by Anonymous||reply 158||01/13/2012|
It's been nice not having to hear about this closet case for awhile.
|by Anonymous||reply 159||01/13/2012|
amazed how this movie got so very little publicity, considering the graphic scenes
|by Anonymous||reply 160||01/13/2012|
Wait a minute! Is Michael Shannon the one he blows?
|by Anonymous||reply 161||01/13/2012|
Now available for rental
|by Anonymous||reply 162||01/13/2012|
"Wait a minute! Is Michael Shannon the one he blows?"
As pointed out, it is a prosthetic penis AND the scene is dark.
|by Anonymous||reply 163||01/13/2012|
Brother Dave is hotter.
|by Anonymous||reply 164||01/13/2012|
You can also rent at iTunes. I'm downloading as we speak...
|by Anonymous||reply 165||01/13/2012|
He sucks on a dildo it's not a real penis.
|by Anonymous||reply 166||01/13/2012|
Yes it is fake but still kinda hot and it got my attention and I thought it was very brave. I wanted to like the movie but then Franco recites a poem for what seems an eternity. This is one of those movies you question the director's mental health...
Actually franco gives a BJ to a twink/truck driver and has a not very graphic sex scene with a sailor played by Michael Shannon...
|by Anonymous||reply 167||01/13/2012|
I saw the movie a couple days ago on OnDemand.
I'm a Hart Crane fan so I wanted to like it...but it just wasn't very good.
|by Anonymous||reply 168||01/14/2012|
Franco has to be straight. If I was the director and could have any guy as my gay co-star, it wouldn't be wooden Michael Shannon.
|by Anonymous||reply 169||01/28/2012|
R169, I think that's a pretty flimsy conclusion to make
|by Anonymous||reply 170||01/28/2012|
No screen caps yet?
|by Anonymous||reply 171||02/25/2012|
Exactly, R170. Franco is a lot of things but heterosexual is not one of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 172||02/25/2012|
He blows a much cuter guy than Michael Shannon. Even if it's not real, I can pretend, can't I?
The movie is pure shite, though. I forward through most of it.
|by Anonymous||reply 173||04/04/2012|
They could have made a good movie about Hart Crane if they bothered.
|by Anonymous||reply 174||04/04/2012|
wow, a real departure for James Franco
|by Anonymous||reply 175||04/04/2012|
So sick of this guy, and his ambiguous cutesy games, with the press, and thinking he's some great modern day performance artist, cause OOH, he appears on a soap, OOH, he goes to college, even though he's a 'star', and OOH, co-hosting the Oscars, thinking smugness would subsitute for charm (didn't work), and showing himself in a leotard (ugly legs, shulbby ass). Just tired of his games. He's a good actor, and should focus on that for a while, instead of trying to impress, as jack of all trades (and King of none).
|by Anonymous||reply 176||04/04/2012|
James Franco is so fetch!
|by Anonymous||reply 177||04/04/2012|
He does seem to know how to suck a dick.
|by Anonymous||reply 178||04/04/2012|
|by Anonymous||reply 179||04/04/2012|
And now he's doing another gay movie. James Franco is hiding in plain sight.
|by Anonymous||reply 180||07/14/2012|
It amazes me that so few can simply love Franco. Just the sight of the guy makes me very happy.
|by Anonymous||reply 181||07/14/2012|
He really does...
(I'm not kidding)
|by Anonymous||reply 182||07/16/2012|
It's dark (like it is in the movie) but you can see James giving head here:
|by Anonymous||reply 183||07/16/2012|
Here's the clearest frame (not saying much):
|by Anonymous||reply 184||07/16/2012|
Gives good head!
|by Anonymous||reply 185||07/16/2012|
I want to see Timberlake sucking some dick as Elton John in that biopic.
|by Anonymous||reply 186||07/16/2012|
R184, is that from the old movie or the new one?
|by Anonymous||reply 187||07/16/2012|
More details, R182.
|by Anonymous||reply 188||07/16/2012|
Yes, R182, tell more. How did you meet? Who picked up whom and how? What did you do sexually, and how was it?
|by Anonymous||reply 189||07/16/2012|
|by Anonymous||reply 190||07/16/2012|
R184, looks like a blowjob to me.
|by Anonymous||reply 191||07/16/2012|
Is that where James is performing oral sex on a Dildo?
In any event, even if it's a fake cock, it's obvious he has an interest in gay sex.
|by Anonymous||reply 192||07/17/2012|
Damn, boy! He's got SKILLS. That is not the dildo-sucking of a straight man.
|by Anonymous||reply 193||07/17/2012|
He wanted someone really hot, exhibitionistic and super hung as the sailor.
So he cast Chloe Sevigny.
|by Anonymous||reply 194||07/17/2012|
I'm only kidding. I didn't personally hook up with him, but I know of a few guys who did when I went to school with him.
Allegedly, his oral game is up to snuff.
He was fucking a variety of people, women too.
Pretentious little fucker.
|by Anonymous||reply 195||07/17/2012|
He gives a bj like a 90-year-old granny.
|by Anonymous||reply 196||07/17/2012|
Toothless and experienced.
|by Anonymous||reply 197||07/17/2012|
So he IS bisexual, R195?
|by Anonymous||reply 198||07/17/2012|
Did Crane kill himself because of his failed affair with a woman, or did it have to do with professional failure?
|by Anonymous||reply 199||07/17/2012|
Seems to be learning more and more towards men, though.
It's a woman here and there, but most of his art, books, acting roles and overall thinking seems to be really geared towards men.
And he wants you to know that.
|by Anonymous||reply 200||07/17/2012|
[quote]And he wants you to know that.
He wants us to know that he is moving towards men?
|by Anonymous||reply 201||07/17/2012|
OP this is VERY old news.
Franco is at least bisexual, or even just gay but closeted.
|by Anonymous||reply 202||07/17/2012|
Also in the Hart Crane movie it's not an actual penis it's a dildo.
|by Anonymous||reply 203||07/17/2012|
R202, did you notice that this is a thread from 2011 that someone bumped?
OP posted it in June 2011. We know it's old news.
|by Anonymous||reply 204||07/17/2012|
R204 I replied to it since someone linked it at another site. See link.
|by Anonymous||reply 205||07/17/2012|
what does 'totally gay now' mean?
|by Anonymous||reply 206||07/17/2012|
Ask the OP at the link R206.
I guess the OP is biphobic or practicing bisexual erasure? Or they mean that Franco is no longer closeted even though he was just sucking on a dildo and not a real dick?
|by Anonymous||reply 207||07/17/2012|
Of course he's gay! Do you think Tom Cruise or George Clooney would be filmed giving a blowjob?
|by Anonymous||reply 208||07/17/2012|
R208, they're from an older generation.
|by Anonymous||reply 209||07/17/2012|
R208, I don't follow your logic.
|by Anonymous||reply 210||07/17/2012|
R208 means that they're in locked closets.
|by Anonymous||reply 211||07/17/2012|
Why is he taking such a circuitous route to coming out?
|by Anonymous||reply 212||07/17/2012|
R212, artsy mindfuckery.
|by Anonymous||reply 213||07/17/2012|
So are his films going to have more and more gay sex until he eventually comes out in 5 years?
|by Anonymous||reply 214||07/17/2012|
There isn't a straight guy in Hollywood who would accept a role that shows him giving a blowjob. Not in a million years.
It's as silly as gay porn stars who claim they're gay for pay.
|by Anonymous||reply 215||07/17/2012|
That's not true R215
You'd be surprised what straight guys would do in Hollywood, whether it's in front of the camera or not.
|by Anonymous||reply 216||07/18/2012|
Has anyone here received a blow job from James?
|by Anonymous||reply 217||07/18/2012|
I don't know if JF is gay, but I have always loved him for the first time I laid eyes on him. If he's gay, I'm proud to have something in common with this guy, if he's straight, then he must be proud to have something in common with me.
|by Anonymous||reply 218||07/20/2012|
Hart Crane birthday tomorrow. Born July 21, 1899.
Crane's father, Clarence, was a successful Ohio businessman who had made his fortune in the candy business by inventing the Life Saver. Crane was gay and associated his sexuality with his vocation as a poet. Raised in the Christian Science tradition of his mother, he never ceased to view himself as an outsider in relation to society. However, as poems such as "Repose of Rivers" make clear, he felt that this sense of alienation was necessary for him to attain the visionary insight that formed the basis for his poetic work.
Just before noon on April 27, 1932, on a steamship passage back to New York from Mexico â right after he was reportedly beaten for making sexual advances to a male crewmember â he committed suicide by jumping into the Gulf of Mexico. Although he had been drinking heavily and left no suicide note, witnesses believed Crane's intentions to be suicidal, as several reported that he exclaimed "Goodbye, everybody!" before throwing himself overboard.
His body was never recovered.
A marker on his father's tombstone in Garrettsville includes the inscription, "Harold Hart Crane 1899-1932 LOST AT SEA"
|by Anonymous||reply 219||07/20/2012|
I just saw the movie (borrowed from library) and it wasn't too bad. More like a dream or impression that a full-out biography. Lots of Hart Crane's poems recited, lots of walking around shots. Hart was tormented but I'm not sure by what.
As to the sex scenes, the first is the blowjob scene, given in a car by Hart (Franco) to a truck driver he is in love with, played by the boom operator (Dylan Goodwin.) You never get a good view of his face, though in profile he looks pretty handsome. Crane goes down on him in the front seat of the pickup truck, and it's pretty clear. Not as dark as the screen caps. It's probably a dildo, but Franco does go up and down on it pretty convincingly.
The sex scene with Michael Shannon, playing a sailor named Emile (though I don't recall hearing it mentioned in the movie) is the second romantic scene -- the first has a lot of kissing, some of it open-mouthed. He sighs at one happy moment "There is nothing in the world like this" and I knew exactly what he meant.
The reunion love scene (after Emile is back on leave) has Emile topping Hart, but he doesn't seem to use any lubrication and curiously there are no ass shots of either fellow -- it's filmed from the waist up, so we see Emile's upper back and head close to Hart's neck and satisfied face.
And Dave Franco plays Hart as a young man. I didn't realize it was him until the credits at the end, so I went back and watched his few scenes again. He's not his usual goofy self in this role.
I'm glad I saw it -- I've been wanting to for over a year. Worth a free rental for your laptop, and you do get to hear some well-regarded poetry.
|by Anonymous||reply 220||08/28/2012|
Is there gay sex in the Cruising remake Franco directed?
|by Anonymous||reply 221||01/25/2013|