Dance Music 1990-1991.
Before "Smells Like Teen Spirit" changed the musical landscape, dance music had a brief resurgence.
What started that trend? I remember when "Vogue" came out and "Groove is in the Heart."
C and C Music Factory hit it big and suddenly everything seemed dance oriented until Nirvana came along.
Will other music fans elaborate? What was going on in the UK, dance music wise?
|by Anonymous||reply 139||12/13/2012|
He wasn't the first, but the massive popularity (and penis) of MC Hammer fueled much of the enthusiasm for dance at that time.
|by Anonymous||reply 1||05/07/2011|
I can't believe I forgot "Screamadelica" by Primal Scream, which was released in 1991 and has just been repackaged and re-released as a "20th Anniversary Edition." Bobby Gillespie needs the money.
|by Anonymous||reply 3||05/07/2011|
"Real Real Real" by Jesus Jones%0D %0D "Unbelievable" by EMF
|by Anonymous||reply 5||05/07/2011|
Nirvana only changed the music landscape in the USA OP. Outside of the USA, Nirvana didn't catch on much.
|by Anonymous||reply 8||05/07/2011|
I loved 808 State and Soul 2 Soul.
|by Anonymous||reply 9||05/07/2011|
That's true R8, I cannot imagine people in the UK wearing plaid...
|by Anonymous||reply 10||05/07/2011|
R8, Nirvana's impact in Western Europe was huge. I know, I was living there at the time and all my classmates loved them. The "MTV Unplugged" album was one of the best-selling CDs of that whole era. Just about everyone I knew owned a copy.
|by Anonymous||reply 11||05/07/2011|
There was some truly great dance music during that period:%0D %0D CC Peniston - Finally%0D %0D Lisa Stansfield - All Around the World%0D %0D Dee Lite - Groove is in the Heart%0D %0D Crystal Waters - Gypsy Woman
|by Anonymous||reply 12||05/07/2011|
Janet Jackson and her unoriginal ass sucked. Karyn White was much better!
|by Anonymous||reply 13||05/07/2011|
Mercedes Boy by Pebbles%0D %0D Pump Up the Jam by Technotronic%0D %0D Many great songs by Bobby Brown%0D %0D That cool song by Information Society
|by Anonymous||reply 14||05/07/2011|
In the UK it was all about the baggy.
The Mock Turtles
My Jealous God
New Fast Automatic Daffodils
The Real People
Carter the Unstoppable Sex Machine
Pop Will Eat Itself
The Soup Dragons
The Stone Roses
World of Twist
|by Anonymous||reply 15||05/07/2011|
1991 also brought us Massive Attack's "Blue Lines", one of the most perfect albums ever released.
|by Anonymous||reply 16||05/07/2011|
I just posted this to my Facebook an hour ago--I fucking love this song:
|by Anonymous||reply 17||05/07/2011|
[quote]Janet Jackson and her unoriginal ass sucked. Karyn White was much better!
Bish please. Janet was the boss in 1990! Even Karyn's husband Jimmy Jam thought so too
|by Anonymous||reply 18||05/07/2011|
Most of the hits people are referring to are what I call "Electronica". Isn't that the jandra?
|by Anonymous||reply 19||05/07/2011|
Let's not forget Black Box (aka another Martha Wash song where they got someone skinnier for the video).
|by Anonymous||reply 20||05/07/2011|
Cathy Dennis had a bunch of hits from her "Move To This" album in that era, 1990-1991.
|by Anonymous||reply 22||05/07/2011|
I love "Fascinated." PWL ripped it off for a Bananarama single:
|by Anonymous||reply 23||05/07/2011|
I always thought that Cathy Dennis was highly underrated in the US.
|by Anonymous||reply 24||05/08/2011|
I LOVED Lisa Stansfield! Too bad she didn't have a longer career.
|by Anonymous||reply 25||05/08/2011|
God, I wish I could have been old enough to go clubbing back in this era. People actually DANCED and had a good fucking time. No cheesy bottle service places...people from all walks of life gathering together and just dancing their asses off and getting wild. Ugh, I hate being a new millennium kid.
How fabulous is this video? Miss Lady Kier interviewed by Cindy Crawford for MTV's "House of Style". WOW!
|by Anonymous||reply 26||05/08/2011|
Loved this remix of Monie Love's "It's a Shame."
Remember that one?
|by Anonymous||reply 27||05/08/2011|
Erasure: I Love To Hate You
|by Anonymous||reply 28||05/08/2011|
LA Style: James Brown Is Dead
|by Anonymous||reply 29||05/08/2011|
Loved this remix of the Shamen's Hyperreal.
|by Anonymous||reply 30||05/08/2011|
pre Social Network and tranny wife
|by Anonymous||reply 31||05/08/2011|
Funny R19, I wouldn't call any of this electronica.
|by Anonymous||reply 33||05/08/2011|
Crucified by Army of Lovers%0D %0D Personal Jesus by Depeche Mode%0D %0D Front 242, Ministry...OK, off to bed with me
|by Anonymous||reply 34||05/08/2011|
These guys were very popular in England then.%0D %0D It was a very good mini music era.%0D %0D Maybe the last time pop music was very good.%0D %0D But a singles era, I think. They really couldn't push it to fill a decent album.
|by Anonymous||reply 35||05/08/2011|
Forgot about LaTour's "Blue."
|by Anonymous||reply 36||05/08/2011|
Cathy Dennis actually wrote "I Kissed A Girl" (Katy Perry) and Toxic (Britney Spears) fyi
|by Anonymous||reply 37||05/08/2011|
Jane Wiedlin - Tangled. More pop than dance, but we used to dance to it.
I always thought Jane should have been a bigger star than she was.
|by Anonymous||reply 41||05/08/2011|
%0D Although their popularity was broader in Europe, 2 Brothers on the 4th Floor had a moderate U.S. dance floor hit in 1990 with "Can't Help Myself." I used to love when that song would come on at my favorite gay bar.%0D %0D Their sound is what I think of as most indicative of the early '90s dance music. Several of their singles are good even though they all sound roughly the same. %0D %0D These songs wouldn't appeal to me now if I were hearing them for the first time, but in that era I thought they were great fun.
|by Anonymous||reply 43||05/08/2011|
R15 holds me, loves me (and I him!)
|by Anonymous||reply 44||05/08/2011|
Glad someone else mentioned Black Box - I was a total Nirvana kid but I wore out my Black Box CD.
"Everybody, Everybody" - "Strike It Up" - "Ride On Time" - and my favorite, "I Don't Know Anybody Else" - they were fantastic. Seems like everyone remembers C&C Music Factory, but not Black Box. They may have been as fake as Milli Vanilli, but their singles were great.
|by Anonymous||reply 45||05/08/2011|
I listened to Black Box constantly from 1990-91. The songs R45 listed instantly take me back. They still sound good today.
|by Anonymous||reply 46||05/08/2011|
Most this stuff was performed on The Word back then.%0D %0D If you want to capture this era look at The Word archives.
|by Anonymous||reply 48||05/08/2011|
I don't know the artist, but remember these lyrics?
[italic]Jealousy, you want everything that I've got
Wanna have your cake and eat it too[/italic]
|by Anonymous||reply 49||05/08/2011|
V O G U E - YOU MOTHERFUCKERS!
|by Anonymous||reply 50||05/08/2011|
This was actually late 80s but I'm posting it anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 51||05/08/2011|
An earlier post mentioned PWL. Their hit factory had surely hit it's stride by 1990, and I was eating their shit up - what was available, that is. %0D %0D I think hardcore dance music people consider most of the Stock Aitken Waterman catalog pop music, but it certainly was good to dance to.%0D %0D The U.S. was deprived of the bulk of the hottest singles they produced. I worked at Sam Goody in 1990 and I remember my frustration at telling a customer that I knew the song he was looking for, but unfortunately it was an import only and he'd have to special order from a shop that handled non-domestic releases. Thank God for Amazon now so that that's not an issue any longer.%0D %0D The song that customer wanted is a real favorite of mine and I think it is one of the best of the PWL legacy as well as an appropriate reply to this DL posting. %0D %0D Sonia's "You'll Never Stop Me From Loving You."
|by Anonymous||reply 52||05/08/2011|
I could never get enough of this song in 1991.
|by Anonymous||reply 53||05/08/2011|
Love, love, love Cathy Dennis and that CD. One of my faves.
I also adore Annie Lennox. What is it with me and red-headed, European, female singers with soul? Hmmmm...
|by Anonymous||reply 55||05/08/2011|
Xpansions "Move Your Body (Elevation)"%0D 1990%0D %0D This song used to make me so happy on the dance floor. Certainly not because of the complexity of the lyrics. Maybe it was due to the sample of S*Express. %0D %0D I had no idea there was a video for it and never thought to look for one until today.
|by Anonymous||reply 56||05/08/2011|
By the time this song came out in 1991, the rumors about Lonnie Gordon being a man were pretty intense. Since she was never a big star in the U.S., I've never heard if they were confirmed.%0D %0D Anyway, "Gonna Catch You" was such a great song. Something is wrong with the sync on the video I've attached, but it's the best version of the song I can find.
|by Anonymous||reply 57||05/08/2011|
A good example of a dance floor staple from Stock Aitken Waterman is Pat and Mick's 1990 remake of "Use It Up, Wear It Out."%0D %0D This type of music really died off when grunge took over the decade.
|by Anonymous||reply 58||05/08/2011|
Long story short: acid house, rave & Madchester in the UK. House, freestyle and hip-house in the US. Other countries were doing house and rave, most notably the Netherlands, Germany and Italy. Proto-eurodance was appearing in those countries, but it was not yet stylistically complete (Snap, 2 Unlimited, the KLF, Cappella and Captain Hollywood were all releasing records that'd later be considered the bones of the genre).
|by Anonymous||reply 59||05/08/2011|
Rick Astley was another Stock-Aitken-Waterman production, and he had several great dance songs in the late 80's. Although by 1990-1991, he was going in a more "Adult" direction with songs like "Cry For Help". %0D %0D I think Donna Summer's 1989 hit, "This Time I Know It's For Real" was also produced by them, as well. I still have the cassette single of it. The 12" version is really good, too. %0D %0D A few forgotten/overlooked dance hits from that era:%0D %0D "Got To Get" - Rob N' Raz Feat. Leila K.%0D "Wiggle It" - 2 In A Room%0D "How To Dance" - Bingoboys Feat. Princessa%0D "Love & Emotion" - Stevie B%0D "I've Been Thinking About You" - Londonbeat%0D "People Are Still Having Sex" - LaTour%0D "P.A.S.S.I.O.N." , "Hey Donna" - Rythm Syndicate%0D "Hold You Tight", "Piece Of My Heart" - Tara Kemp%0D "Heartbeat" - Seduction%0D "Hooked on You", "Sincerely Yours" - Sweet Sensation%0D "My Heart Skips A Beat", "All That Glitters Isn't Gold" - Cover Girls%0D %0D I know there's more, but those are the ones that used to get alot of airplay here on the local Top 40 stations. Those were some really great years for dance music and pop music in general.
|by Anonymous||reply 60||05/08/2011|
R49 That's "Jealousy" by The Adventures Of Stevie V. I loved their song "Dirty Cash (Money Talks)".
|by Anonymous||reply 61||05/08/2011|
One of the most underrated songs and videos of all time: Banderas song "This Is Your Life". Should've been #1.
|by Anonymous||reply 62||05/08/2011|
R58, I shook my tush to that song until it bled!
|by Anonymous||reply 63||05/08/2011|
it's a cover in any case.
|by Anonymous||reply 65||05/08/2011|
the version without slimy limeys
|by Anonymous||reply 66||05/08/2011|
Pat of Pat and Mick sucked a mean cock.
|by Anonymous||reply 67||05/08/2011|
This is why I love youtube. So many great old songs right at your fingertips. %0D %0D I almost forgot about Tara Kemp. "Piece Of My Heart" was one of the better dance songs from that era.%0D %0D This era was relatively short-lived - wasn't it roughly 1989-1991? That's how I remember it anyway.
|by Anonymous||reply 68||05/08/2011|
It all started again with %0D %0D Back To Life - Soul II Soul%0D %0D and that was the theme of the song precisely, - let's club dance again.%0D %0D Soon enough, similar sounds like%0D %0D %0D Don't Make Me Over - Sybil%0D It Takes Two %0D %0D shot up in the clubs.%0D %0D I remember when a DJ in Vinylmania told me - u have to get this, it's gonnna be a huge sound and end all the neutron dance - Molly Ringwald triangle shaped shoulder pad shit of the eighties. He was right.%0D %0D Then they sped up the sound and it became the famous Summer of 1990 - The Summer of Vogue/Black Box/C&C, etc.%0D %0D Of course, the queens at Garage and Warehouse had been twirling to house for over 5 years , but I think OP wanted to address mainstream
|by Anonymous||reply 69||05/08/2011|
Wow, almost 70 posts and not one mention of Depeche Mode's VIOLATOR?! You couldn't get away from that album or its singles in 1990.
|by Anonymous||reply 70||05/08/2011|
For those that name Tara Kemp - I have a good friend in the dance music biz and he knew Tara Kemp and her people from the old days. According to him, Tara's more passionate lyrics and ad-lobs were courtesy of masturbation in the vocal booth.
|by Anonymous||reply 71||05/08/2011|
I love this thread! And I miss this music soooooo much!%0D
|by Anonymous||reply 72||05/08/2011|
D.N.A. featuring Suzanne Vega - Tom's Diner It was - I believe one of the first popular cases of a song being remixed and released with a major commercial success (even though D.N.A. did it without Suzanne's and her record label's permission).
Bjork's album "Debut" with songs like Human Behaviour, Venus as a Boy, Violently Happy and Big Time Sensuality. I think her album was the best start the music in the 90s could have.
Siouxsie and the Banshees - Kiss Them For Me (brought a little bit of Bollywood Dance to the scene). Produced by Dance music producer legend Stephen Hague.
|by Anonymous||reply 73||05/08/2011|
Bizarre Inc. - "I'm Gonna Get You." This was played a lot back in the day. When I think of the early 90s, this song always comes to mind.
|by Anonymous||reply 74||05/08/2011|
Jomanda - "Got A Love For You."
|by Anonymous||reply 75||05/08/2011|
Yay for all the PWL shoutouts!
|by Anonymous||reply 76||05/08/2011|
Jomanda and Cece were classic silky dubs
|by Anonymous||reply 77||05/08/2011|
I'm not sure this was 1990 or late 80s, but this song was the stuff of nightmares when I was a kid, around 11, and just getting drunk with friends for the first time.
|by Anonymous||reply 78||05/08/2011|
Let's not forget the great, unheralded Adeva
|by Anonymous||reply 80||05/08/2011|
I spent 90-91 in Europe. Classmates and I were in a bar watching Superchannel when this came on and we all remarked how much it looked like they had it made at one of those short-lived stores in the mall where you could make your own music video. Random footage! Cool graphics!
|by Anonymous||reply 81||05/08/2011|
What about early 2000s? I'm kind of embarrassed to admit I loved "Music Sounds Better with You" by Stardust and Mojo's "Lady (Hear Me Tonight)" with the video featuring two (three, counting the lay-dee) Quebecois cuties.
|by Anonymous||reply 82||05/08/2011|
This might have been the late 80's, but Neneh Cherry's Raw Like Sushi album got played to death by me and my friends,along with Soul II Soul's Club Classics vol 1.
Anyone else remember Inner City?
|by Anonymous||reply 83||05/09/2011|
A few more.
Jody Watley - Real Love
Madonna _ Keep it Together
Electronic - Get the Message
|by Anonymous||reply 84||05/09/2011|
Electribe 101 were good..
|by Anonymous||reply 85||05/09/2011|
More dance music!!%0D %0D
|by Anonymous||reply 86||05/15/2011|
This thread wouldn't be complete without mentioning the more underground stuff. Sometimes I wish I'd been born in 1970 instead of 1978. Was too young to have been part of the rave and house scene but discovered it after the fact.
My brother's a few years older than me and went to a couple of raves. But even he was too young for that scene.
And so we come to one of the biggest records of this period, on the newly-launched ubercool Warp Records. LFO "LFO".
|by Anonymous||reply 87||05/15/2011|
And less cool, but more fun, was also the rave classic "The Bouncer" by Kicks Like A Mule.
|by Anonymous||reply 88||05/15/2011|
I was less cool however, and this tune was about as edgy as my music taste got during this period. I was more into 'pop house' like The Shamen, KLF, A Tribe Called Quest and some other stuff long-since passed into obscurity, with a smattering of the poppier indie acts like The Inspiral Carpets, EMF and Blur.
|by Anonymous||reply 89||05/15/2011|
R90 is the reason a 'hide idiotic poster' function needs to be instituted.%0D
|by Anonymous||reply 91||05/15/2011|
Within 1990-1991 were the peak years of NYC gay underground: Sound Factory, Robots, Mars, Quick, Roxy.
Best music at the time: "Follow Me" - Aly-us, "I'll Be Your Friend" - Robert Owens, "Club Lonely" - Lil Louis, and the amazing "Where Love Lives" - Alison Limerick.
"James Brown is Dead" was fun as hell, but I only heard that at Limelight.
|by Anonymous||reply 93||05/15/2011|
Music died in the late 80s. Haven't liked any of the manufactured crap since, and that manufactured corporate vomit includes alternative.
|by Anonymous||reply 95||09/26/2011|
One of my favorites...
"Your Love Takes Me Higher" - the Beloved
|by Anonymous||reply 96||09/26/2011|
Do you guys remember Technotronic?
There's this awesome band from a couple years ago called Thunderheist who reminds me a LOT of them.
|by Anonymous||reply 97||09/26/2011|
"I Say Yeah" - Secchi (Italian piano house, link below)
"Touch Me" - 49ers
"Found Love" - Double Dee
"Ride On Time" - Black Box
"Please Don't Go" - Double You
"Finally" - CeCe Peniston
"Groove Is In The Heart" - Deee-Lite
"How Can I Love You More?" - M People
"(I Wanna Give You) Devotion" - Nomad
"It Should Have Been Me" - Adeva
"Unfinished Sympathy" - Massive*
"Can't Help Myself" - 2 Brothers on the 4th Floor
"Move Any Mountain" - The Shamen
* - The band was temporarily renamed "Massive" from "Massive Attack" due to the Gulf War
|by Anonymous||reply 98||09/26/2011|
"Take my advice, your pussy stinks twice!"
|by Anonymous||reply 99||09/26/2011|
I never heard this played in a club in the U.S. (not sure how popular it was in America), but one of my favorite songs of all time came out in 90/91.
S'Express, "Mantra For A State Of Mind"
|by Anonymous||reply 100||09/26/2011|
"Take My Advice" by Kym Sims
|by Anonymous||reply 101||09/26/2011|
Kym Sims - Too Blind To See It
Whatever happened to her, anyway?
|by Anonymous||reply 102||09/27/2011|
"Pump Up the Volume" Mars
|by Anonymous||reply 104||01/28/2012|
The Fine Young Cannibals: They don't exactly fit the category "dance music," but most of their songs were big on the dance floor.
|by Anonymous||reply 106||01/28/2012|
That phase all started with Back II Life
|by Anonymous||reply 108||01/28/2012|
Every now and then I think back to this thread when I play something out of my library.
The previously mentioned KLF had an album with several big dance singles in 1990/1991. I loved the whole thing, but my favorite song to turn up loud is "Last Train to Trancentral."
|by Anonymous||reply 109||02/02/2012|
In general I wasn't a big fan of the Miami Freestyle-type music that got popular in the later 80s, but I love this song and I'm pretty sure it falls under that classification.
One of the last to chart (1991) before the Miami fad went back underground, Corina with "Temptation."
|by Anonymous||reply 110||02/02/2012|
PWL did indeed produce "This Time I Know It's For Real" for Donna Summer, plus an entire album which just sparkles--she should have done another album with them.
|by Anonymous||reply 111||02/02/2012|
Not to hijack the thread, but does anyone have any gossip on Cathy Dennis? I always loved her music (for the one or two years she was actually played here) and recently heard she was a lesbo.
|by Anonymous||reply 112||02/04/2012|
R111, it was actually Stock Waterman Aiken who produced This Time I Know It's for Real for Donna Summer, and the entire album Another Place in Time.
R112, Cathy's mostly a songwriter now, and she co-wrote Katy Perry's I Kissed a Girl. I had no idea she was a lesbo nowadays. She also co-wrote this gem from Janet's "Damita Jo" album...
|by Anonymous||reply 113||02/04/2012|
What? A lesbo? Really? I'd never heard that, but I haven't heard anything about Dennis since 1992.
I shouldn't say that because I know she's a songwriter and has written for some recent pop act that I can't think of right now.
|by Anonymous||reply 114||02/04/2012|
I think there is a misunderstanding about SAW vs. PWL, at least here on DL. Anything that SAW wrote/produced is a PWL product. So R111 is correct, as is R113.
They aren't exactly interchangeable, but anything that the 3 guys collaborated on was a product of Pete Waterman's company, so saying that a record was SAW means it was a PWL record.
|by Anonymous||reply 115||02/04/2012|
Cathy wrote "Toxic" as well.
|by Anonymous||reply 116||02/04/2012|
I was just as shocked when I heard that about her, too. But I've never heard even a whisper she might be gay.
|by Anonymous||reply 117||02/04/2012|
SAW were awesome--what about Princess "Say I'm Your Number One" ?
|by Anonymous||reply 118||02/04/2012|
Always loved this Kylie SAW track:
|by Anonymous||reply 119||02/04/2012|
I always loved this one. I remember washing my little red eclipse in the back yard shirtless with this one on full blast.
|by Anonymous||reply 120||02/04/2012|
Lisette Melendez "A Day In My Life Without You" from 1991.
|by Anonymous||reply 121||02/04/2012|
Siouxsie and the Banshees released Kiss Them For Me around the time. Also Björk released Debut with dance songs like Big Time Sensuality and Violently Happy and some of the Human Behaviour remixes still hold up well.
|by Anonymous||reply 123||02/04/2012|
Utah Saints, "What Can You Do For Me"
They had other songs that I like much more than this one, but it looks like their first full album was released in '92, so this single is the only thing that qualifies for the purposes of this thread.
|by Anonymous||reply 124||05/12/2012|
R21 and R109, how could you have failed to mention the KLF's biggest hit, Justified and Ancient, with vocals by Tammy Wynette?
|by Anonymous||reply 125||05/12/2012|
Remember fresh-faced Rick Astley? He did not age well....
Apparently, he's not gay, either.
|by Anonymous||reply 126||05/12/2012|
Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch: Good Vibrations (1991)
|by Anonymous||reply 127||05/12/2012|
New Kids on the Block's Step by Step (1990)
|by Anonymous||reply 128||05/12/2012|
Oh please, R13, you must be fucking dreaming. Janet's "Control" album brought out ALL the copycats--Karyn White included. Also in that list of wannabes was:
Jody Watley (she is an original artist, but you can best believe her debut solo album was made possible due to the massive success of "Control". Record companies saw the niche market that Janet was making for the dance/pop divas of color, and quickly signed Jody on the dotted line).
And yes, Janet owned 1986-1991. The end.
|by Anonymous||reply 129||05/12/2012|
90-91 is too narrow a window. This thread should be about house music starting in the late 80s with Jody Watley and others, and then continuing into the early 90s until grudge halted its popularity. House music was the 2nd comeback of disco, the first was synth-pop '80-'84 which was essentially synthesized disco. Disco can't make a comeback because it never died, they just changed the name to dance music and house.
Donna Summer's 1989 SAW album was brought up and people wondered why she didn't record a 2nd one with them. There was one planned, but they couldn't come to terms on it. They had already written a song for her likely to be the lead single (Happenin' All Over Again.) It was eventually given to Lonnie Gordon, who made #3 on the UK pop chart with it in 1990. Donna would've gotten it into the US Top 10 as well. Here is the 1993 remix that topped the US dance chart:
|by Anonymous||reply 130||08/22/2012|
My own guilty pleasure that was run constantly on MuchMusic. They kept trying to make this Alanis chick happen... Literally too hot to hold...
|by Anonymous||reply 131||08/22/2012|
Y'all know jack shit about house music in the 80s and 90s.
|by Anonymous||reply 132||08/22/2012|
Malcolm McLaren - Waltz Darling
|by Anonymous||reply 134||08/22/2012|
Malcom McLaren - Something's Jumpin' In Your Shirt
|by Anonymous||reply 135||08/22/2012|
Nirvana's influence on 1990's top 40 radio is so overexagerated. Mariah Cary, Whitney Houston, Boyz 2 Men, etc. How were any of these performers transformed by Nirvana?
|by Anonymous||reply 136||08/22/2012|
Oh. Ahem. Nirvana.
Try Sonic Youth for the real deal at that time.
Try Underground Resistance for decent music to dance to in the early 90's.
|by Anonymous||reply 137||08/22/2012|
How did Macca do as Kurt tonight?
|by Anonymous||reply 139||12/13/2012|