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Bisexuality isn''t real.

This idea is new to me. I always thought bisexuality is just a natural thing among some people. What's the argument that it's false?

by Anonymousreply 11712/28/2012

No sane, rational person thinks it's false, OP.

by Anonymousreply 102/23/2011

Naivete is not hot, OP.

by Anonymousreply 202/23/2011

Wow. Even the "straight men love to suck cock" crowd must be getting sick of these threads.

by Anonymousreply 302/23/2011

OP isn't real.

by Anonymousreply 402/23/2011

R1 = delusional

Sent from my iPhone.

by Anonymousreply 502/23/2011

R4 here. Very sorry, OP! I just realised that I judged you by your thread title alone rather than by the rest of your post. Silly me.

What I mean is that I agree with you - OF COURSE bisexuality is real. I'm 100% with you and R2 on this.

by Anonymousreply 602/23/2011

Of course bisexuality is real...

for women.

by Anonymousreply 702/23/2011

there are some gay guys on this site that get very uptight at the mention of bisexuality. for some reason, they find it threatening.

by Anonymousreply 802/23/2011

Sure you are, R8.

by Anonymousreply 1002/23/2011

When Ricky Martin was on the Oprah show and she asked him about his bisexuality,Ricky corrected her and stated he is gay not bi..

and all men in the audience cheered and applauded... like bisexuality is some evil word.

by Anonymousreply 1102/23/2011

IF they were applauding (was it really only men?)it was probably because many people are of the mind that those who say they are bi-sexual are really too afraid to admit or haven't accepted they are gay.

by Anonymousreply 1202/23/2011

I meant R9 not R8

I'm really screwing up on my posts here. WTF???

by Anonymousreply 1302/23/2011

r9: the ultimate experts on male sexuality - women.

by Anonymousreply 1402/23/2011

There are a lot of people who don't believe that homosexuality is real. You're just a lazy straight sinner who hasn't tried hard enough to be straight. %0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 1502/23/2011

There are more women who fall somewhere in the middle of the Kinsey scale than men. But that doesn't mean it doesn't happen to men.

I am one of them. And no, it's not just me in denial. In fact, I label myself as gay. But I have had plenty of great sex with women and can get off just as easily thinking about them as I can men.

If you want to argue that doesn't make me bisexual, fine. Nothing to prove to this group.

by Anonymousreply 1602/23/2011

Bisexuality has a bad name here because many men who are actually gay hide behind the "bisexual" label. People therefore mistakenly conclude that male bisexuality doesn't exist. In actual fact it may be rare, but anyone who has lived and worked and formed friendships with people for any period of time has known men that were able to enjoy relationships with both sexes. Every possible kind of sexual behavor exists, so why not male bisxuality?

What is strange about DataLounge is that the existence of male bisexuality is vehemently denied by many posters, yet there are hundreds of threads where people ask/say things like: "Is he gay or bi?"; "He is at least bisexual"; "The epitome of bi," etc. So it seems to exist when it suits people.

by Anonymousreply 1702/23/2011

[quote]There are more women who fall somewhere in the middle of the Kinsey scale than men. Nope.

by Anonymousreply 1802/23/2011

I'm a bisexual woman (although tend toward men more) and I believe there are definitely bi men. I keep hearing the "men are different" blah blah. I think a lot of it has to do with socialization, norms and perceptions of what's "acceptable". I think it's also very much connected to how men and women view their gender identity and the other gender as well.

For a woman to have sex with women changes very little in how we see ourselves as women but for a man it can create a severe identity crisis and in what they believe a man "is". Sex among women has never been seen as any kind of threat (to men, of course) even in more conservative societies.

All that doesn't seem to exist for men. For a man that sees himself as straight, having sex with another man seems to be the biggest threat to his masculine identity. It's like in their own mind (and society's) they cease to be men. And I think that's connected to how men see women (in sexual context and in general). If not inferior then at least passive which is obviously something that threatens them. They see having sex with men as equal to being a woman which of course is the most awful thing they can imagine.

by Anonymousreply 1902/23/2011

Exactly r19 and in other words they don't want to give up their het male privilege.

by Anonymousreply 2002/23/2011

Stop deluding yourselves. If you prefer your own sex, but happen to have opposite sex you are gay. End of story.

by Anonymousreply 2102/23/2011

Yeah r21, just like "some people" think homosexuality doesn't exist, it's a CHOICE.

by Anonymousreply 2202/23/2011

Bisexuality is valid, but bisexuals men are lame who will always flaunt their love for pussy and always end up living, for all intents and purposes, convention hetero lives.

by Anonymousreply 2302/23/2011

r21 here. r22, my comment isn't what "some people" think. 99% of the psychiatric community agree.

by Anonymousreply 2402/23/2011

the idea that it's false is that if it's completely foreign to me, it must not exist.

by Anonymousreply 2502/23/2011

R21, that's the stupidest statement I've ever read.%0D %0D It's like saying "If you prefer salad, but you eat meat occasionally, you're a vegetarian, period".%0D %0D You're an idiot.%0D

by Anonymousreply 2602/23/2011

[quote]and all men in the audience cheered and applauded... like bisexuality is some evil word.

On a good day there are maybe 15-20 men in the audience on the Oprah show. Most of them came with their wives. It was the mostly female crowd that was laughing.

That being said, this thread is flamebait and threads like this usually comes up once a month or so. These days I don't know if they are started by people who don't think bisexauls are real, or the ones that do think they are real and looking to start a discussion/flame war.

by Anonymousreply 2702/23/2011

[quote]99% of the psychiatric community agree.

LOL. Yeah, well, the primary architects of the mass murders in Nazi Germany were actually and factually psychiatrists. Not a reliable group of people.

by Anonymousreply 2802/23/2011

Christ on a fucking crutch, don't you people get tired of this same thread over and over and over and fucking over?

by Anonymousreply 2902/23/2011

[quote]It was the mostly female crowd that was laughing.

That should be, it was the mostly female crowd that was applauding

by Anonymousreply 3002/23/2011

R28=Tommy Davis of the COS.

by Anonymousreply 3102/23/2011

The fact that SOME men who claim to be bisexual are actually gay and just don't want to admit it doesn't mean that ALL men who claim to be bisexual are actually gay. End of discussion.

by Anonymousreply 3202/23/2011

R19, men that are "threatened" by homosexuality usually are closeted homosexuals. And this whole notion that female sexuality is "fluid" is American ideological bullshit. Also, let's not forget that women who claim to be bisexual do so in front straight men. So, let's not misplace true bisexual women for whores. I also believe that bisexuality in males is more common and there is a great percentage of them. I think there are more guys that are bi than not. It's very private, however.

by Anonymousreply 3302/23/2011

I think part of the problem lies with how you define bisexual. %0D %0D We've allowed the world to label us as homo'sexual' when in reality it's not just about who we have sex with. It's really about who we love - who we make our lives with. %0D %0D What's threatening about bisexuality to a lot of people is that while many men are comfortable having sex with other men but because of societal pressure they wouldn't necessarily fall in love them and live with them as partners.%0D %0D %0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 3402/23/2011

Ask Cody Cummings...

that guy is straight....and truly the definition of a whore.

Whores take money for sex, despite not liking it.

and does anyone know is real name so I can start mailing him dead cats? lol.

by Anonymousreply 3502/23/2011

r33, what does it mean that women who claim to be bi do so in front straight men??? Or "let's not misplace true bisexual women for whores"?%0D %0D A bi woman is a whore??? More so than straight or gays?

by Anonymousreply 3602/23/2011

I've reached a point where I don't what I'm called. I like fooling around with guys, I like fooling around with girls, call it what you will.

by Anonymousreply 3702/23/2011

That should be "I don't care what I'm called"

by Anonymousreply 3802/23/2011

Some (completely opinion-base thoughts on bisexuality:

We are all (men and women, straight and gay) culturally conditioned to objectify women and the female form. It's not surprising then that some women and men (who are actually primarily attracted to men) respond to that conditioning.

Women (whether through natural instinct, cultural conditioning, or most likely some combination thereof) seem to be able to develop sexual attraction to people with whom they share an emotional bond. Most men compartmentalize people into categories: potential fucks, potential friends, and potential competition.

Most human beings are capable of bisexual behavior. I would never pursue a sexual relationship with a woman of my own volition, but if someone dangled a cheque in front of me, I'd be able to manage the act with little actual difficulty. Straight men (due to their own system of misogyny and homophobia) are really the only segment of society that won't cop to this (despite the fact that they resort to homosexual behavior as soon as they end up in single sex environments, with much more frequency than women do, I'd imagine.)

by Anonymousreply 3902/23/2011

"For a woman to have sex with women changes very little in how we see ourselves as women" %0D %0D Maybe for younger women who've grown up with the idea that woman on woman sex is "hot," but when I came of age in the 1970s sex between women was regarded as sick and creepy and lesbians were portrayed in mainstream culture as penis-envying freaks.

by Anonymousreply 4002/23/2011

Which only goes to show, R40, just how much straight porn has become one of the major informants of our concept of sexuality.

by Anonymousreply 4102/23/2011

I consider myself gay, but would still bang a woman. Does that mean I must be bi?

by Anonymousreply 4202/23/2011

Anyone who has lived for 25 or more years and comes to this board denying the existence of male bisexuality is not very perceptive, to say the least. I've known plenty of men who could be considered neither gay nor straight.

by Anonymousreply 4302/23/2011

Have had gay sex with a best friend, but very straight with the woman I love.

by Anonymousreply 4402/23/2011

Real in women.

Bisexuality in guys is not real. The ability for gay men to technically have sex with a women, driven by the need to convince themselves they are not total f*ags, is very real.

by Anonymousreply 4502/25/2011

On cam4 bi guys will go ballistic when you call them out as flaming Queens.

by Anonymousreply 4602/25/2011

R46 talk about the smoking gun of proof!

by Anonymousreply 4702/25/2011

I can't deal with bisexual men. They're a mess.

by Anonymousreply 4802/25/2011

R43 Totally agree with you. It blows my mind that some people actually believe bisexuality in males doesn't exist. Considering the old expressions of "Men are pigs" and "Men will fuck anything with a hole", you'd think guys would be MORE likely to be bi than women.

by Anonymousreply 4902/25/2011

I'm bisexual, you can lean one way or the other and be bisexual but I actually am equally attracted to both sexes. I don't get why people who aren't something assume they'd *have* to understand it. I wouldn't look at someone who's not attracted to men or to women and assume they secretly are bi, too, but haven't come to terms.

by Anonymousreply 5002/25/2011

When you are 19, male and taking Viagra - Pines Trees are sexy - the male or female ones.

So, is sexuality a physical act or emotional? The argument against Bisexuality as an emotional attraction in males, still stands.

by Anonymousreply 5102/25/2011

R51 Pretty much anyone can be horny at 19. Male OR female. Bisexuality isn't always an emotional attraction for females, either.

by Anonymousreply 5202/25/2011

I think there is a big difference between physical contact and emotional attachment. I am a gay man but have had sex with women in the past and been emotionally attached and attracted to women over the years. I do believe that there are a lot of men that can separate a physical act from emotion. I have been with married straight guys that liked their cock sucked by a guy but would never have any emotional attachment to another man. Forget getting a kiss from them either...too much emotion attached to that. Just my opinion folks.

by Anonymousreply 5302/25/2011

"the ultimate experts on male sexuality - women"%0D %0D The ultimate experts on male lying - women.

by Anonymousreply 5402/25/2011

[quote]I am a gay man but have had sex with women in the past and been emotionally attached and attracted to women over the years.

That's not gay sugar tits.

That is a bisexual.

by Anonymousreply 5502/25/2011

Gay men do not have sex with women that's why they're gay. Duh. If you like the puss puss you're bisexual.

by Anonymousreply 5602/25/2011

What do you call people who are sexually attracted to both sexes?

by Anonymousreply 5702/25/2011

Yay! ANOTHER bisexuality thread.

by Anonymousreply 5802/25/2011

Of course men can be bisexual.

As a gay man I've noticed that when other gay men who are biphobic or practice bisexual erasure like some here do, are not eagerly cruising bisexual men in bath houses, saunas, hook up sites, and chat-rooms, are too often keen to denounce the ‘dishonesty’ and ‘double lives’ and ‘repression’ of bisexual men – because they have the temerity to not be just like them, all the while there are tons of gay men that are deeply closeted, lie and cheat on each other, and who act and pretend as though they are the ultimate victims and pariahs of society.

by Anonymousreply 5909/26/2011

the full blown gays who can't get it up for women LOATHE the idea of a queer guy who can. it's an anger/jealousy thing that causes resistance to the idea of bisexuality, which absolutely exists.

by Anonymousreply 6009/26/2011

"What do you call people who are sexually attracted to both sexes?"

Whores.

by Anonymousreply 6109/26/2011

r60 maybe that's true but I also think some gays view bi men as "traitors", as men who might at any moment cross the lines. BTW, many straights would probably view them the same way or as closet gays b/c "it's unnatural for a man to be attracted to another man", in their opinion..

by Anonymousreply 6209/26/2011

Bisexuality is not 50/50. Everyone prefers one over the other. If you prefer straight sex, your straight. If you also like gay sex, you're still whatever your first urge is, which makes bisexuality a myth.

by Anonymousreply 6309/26/2011

"What do you call people who are sexually attracted to both sexes?"

It makes them bisexual.

Of course bisexuality exists. You'd have to be an idiot not to understand this.

I don’t think biphobic gays that sometimes post here help matters. With their ‘bisexual men are really gay men who are lying’ and 'bisexual teens and young adults are really gay/lesbian and will eventually come out as such' tropes.

As a gay man I've noticed that when other gay men who are biphobic or practice bisexual erasure, are not eagerly cruising bisexual men in bath houses, saunas, hook up sites, and chat-rooms, are too often keen to denounce the ‘dishonesty’ and ‘double lives’ and ‘repression’ of bisexual men – because they have the temerity to not be just like them, all the while there are tons of gay men that are deeply closeted, lie and cheat on each other, and who act and pretend as though they are the ultimate victims and pariahs of society.

Hmmm because a gay man does understand how a guy can be bisexual it cannot be real?? Sounds like what straight males have said about us gay men for years. Find it utterly ironic and totally hypocritical that a gay male would use the same excuse to not accept someone's sexuality that was used against accepting homosexuality by str8 people ??? Makes me laugh.

I'm a gay man and while I'm not bisexual it's entirely possible for other men to be bisexual and there's nothing wrong with being bisexual.

by Anonymousreply 6409/26/2011

Hmmm because a gay man does understand how a guy can be bisexual it cannot be real?? Sounds like what straight males have said about us gay men for years. Find it utterly ironic and totally hypocritical that a gay male would use the same excuse to not accept someone's sexuality that was used against accepting homosexuality by str8 people ??? Makes me laugh.

I'm a gay man and while I'm not bisexual it's entirely possible for other men to be bisexual and there's nothing wrong with being bisexual.

by Anonymousreply 6509/26/2011

R45 = rationalizing.

by Anonymousreply 6609/26/2011

Good Christ, this thread again? Do you all have dementia or are there really this many people who've forgotten the last forty dozen previous arguments?

by Anonymousreply 6709/26/2011

Bi-sexuality is real, although I think 98% of the cases (men mainly) who claim to be are liars.

by Anonymousreply 6809/26/2011

r67 lol. True.

by Anonymousreply 6909/26/2011

[quote]Good Christ, this thread again? Do you all have dementia or are there really this many people who've forgotten the last forty dozen previous arguments?

It's probably the same few queens that bump or start these threads over and over again.

by Anonymousreply 7009/26/2011

There are two underlying rationales which explain why people jump to the arguments that it's false.

1) It's foreign to me, therefore it doesn't exist.

Of course this is bullshit.

2) It is interpreted as meaning an almost equal balance of attraction to both genders, which may in reality be much more atypical than a dominant attraction to one gender and a subordinant attraction to the other.

The problem with this argument is that bisexuality does not mean an equal or almost equal attraction, it merely means a coexistence of attraction to both genders, not necessarily in equal or about equal measure.

* * *

The fact is that all over the world there are people engaging in sex with both genders. Therefore, the fact that anyone can possibly think that at least a large proportion of such people are doing so without sexual attraction to the people of both genders whom they are engaging in sex with is totally unpersuasive.

Now, someone might read what I just said and say "well, those people are just horny and will fuck someone whose available, for instance a straight guy who will just go to a man for a blowjob." But how many of those people would conceive of a horny 100% gay man (and there are many) going to a woman for a blowjob except perhaps simply as an experiment or novelty.

Anyone who has ever spent time in Latin America knows that there are bisexual men.

by Anonymousreply 7109/26/2011

[quote]2) It is interpreted as meaning an almost equal balance of attraction to both genders, which may in reality be much more atypical than a dominant attraction to one gender and a subordinant attraction to the other.

That's a great argument and it's simply true. One also has to remember that it can change through life and that more than anything, practicality dictates that ppl make a choice at some point. Most ppl want relationships and most partners in relationships (gay man/straight woman) won't accept their partner shagging ppl of their own or opposite gender while being with them. Such men either cheat on their wives with men, remain single and hop from one partner to the next or if predominantly gay, choose to be with a man. It's not like there are too many options in such a situation.

by Anonymousreply 7209/26/2011

Bisexuality is the combo of homosexual pleasure and heterosexual privilege.

This may help explain some of the level of resentment around this topic on a G&L message board.

by Anonymousreply 7309/26/2011

re68-So I guess we should consider that a lot of gay men are lying too since the well known "secret" of the so called gay world is that a lot of bisexual men first came out and identified as gay and then discovered that they're bisexual.

Bisexuality does not give someone hetero privilege. There are a lot of bisexual men who are partnered to gay men or to other bisexual men and they don't get any hetero privilege.

Closeted and down low gay men are assumed to be hetero as is pretty much everyone unless they're a flaming queen, and there are TONS of gay men who marry women just to appear hetero and they think they're fooling everyone like John Travolta.

by Anonymousreply 7409/26/2011

I would agree except for this one guy I used to mess with. He had a girl friend (I knew her) that he later married. My buddy was into straight acting guys only - especially married ones. He was a seducer. He used to hang out in bi chat rooms.

His big thing with me was to double fuck me with a married guy. He had a huge one so it was easy to pull off. He would call me and then show up with these hot guys from time to time. We never did it one on one, it was always this way. He was very directive in these sessions and liked to tell the guy what to do to me.

A couple of times he took me and this other married bottom (police officer) to orgies he set up.

He used to fuck guys wives and then the guy in front of her.

Anyway, this guy was truly bisexual, so it must exist.

All of this is true.

by Anonymousreply 7509/26/2011

75-Of course bisexuality exists.

I get told I'm bisexual but I fall in love with men and women and I've had sex with them, never at the same time but I would like to do this.

Two of my ex BF's also are bisexual and both wanted us to have sex with another woman and each other at the same time but it didn't happen.

by Anonymousreply 7609/26/2011

Ok Dataloungers, here's my question:

If you're physically/sexually attracted to both genders, but you're only emotionally/romantically attracted to one gender, are you bisexual, or are you heterosexual/homosexual depending on your preference?

by Anonymousreply 7709/27/2011

It means you have a bisexual ORIENTATION but a same sex/opposite sex PREFERENCE.

by Anonymousreply 7809/27/2011

R77 it means that you're bisexual but you happen to prefer one gender when it comes to romance/relationships.

by Anonymousreply 7909/27/2011

Well said R1

by Anonymousreply 8009/28/2011

Let me take you down because I'm going to - BISEXUAL FIELDS

NOTHING IS REAL

by Anonymousreply 8109/28/2011

[quote]If you're physically/sexually attracted to both genders, but you're only emotionally/romantically attracted to one gender, are you bisexual, or are you heterosexual/homosexual depending on your preference?

This describes me. I define myself as gay. Women physically turn me on, as do men. I can only get romantically involved with men, so I'm gay. For me it's not the physical that defines me, it's the emotional/romantic part.

When I was closeted and dating a woman, I had this desire to go out at night and seek out men. But when I am with a man, I have no desire to go seek out a woman. So I'm gay, although I love the physical pleasure that I can experience with a woman.

by Anonymousreply 8209/28/2011

R82 you can pretend that you're "gay" all you want but if you're sexually attracted to both genders then you're bisexual.

I'm gay and I have never had any sexual attraction to women at all ever. I tried having sex with one as at 19 and I could not even get hard.

R81 is a tool and an idiot. Bisexuality does exist and there's nothing wrong with it.

by Anonymousreply 8309/28/2011

In the 50s it was believed that that if were a man who liked homosexual activity, you were a "deviant." Having intercourse with a woman didn't change the fact that you were a deviant.

by Anonymousreply 8409/28/2011

I struggle with the concept that someone can be born with an emotional orientation.

Considering we are all force fed a diet of heterosexuality from the moment we're born, I'm not surprised that more than a few gay men and women feel like they can't build emotional relationships with their sexual partners.

by Anonymousreply 8509/28/2011

R16 is a filthy bislut

by Anonymousreply 8611/13/2012

I knew I liked men at about 3. Have been married several times. Had other women, swung a bit, fucked a few women I was not married to. Used to have a straight roommate that thought the only thing wrong with me was I didn't get enough pussy. He was a sexy sexy guy, women loved him, he played them and split. More than a few nights I was awakened by him and whatever girl he picked up that night,naked and crawling into my bed. What can I do, I needed to support my roomie. Personally I think everyone is born with some attraction to both sexes and a bit of play is natural. What happens is societal norms, cultural experiences, moral dictates etc. determine one's acting out on what I believe is a natural instinct.

by Anonymousreply 8711/13/2012

R33 The idea that sexuality is FIXED *IS* the ideological bullshit.

R34 Go fuck yourself, you granola-PC cunt. Sexual orientation is about fucking SEX, sexual attraction and sexual arousal. That's why it's SEXuality. Wanna refer to LOVE? Refer to romantic orientation.

R39 100% gay AND RIGID people will NOT be able to "pull it off" with the opposite sex. If you do get aroused and come, it's either you turned before hand or was turned DURING the sex act. So no, not everyone is "capable of bisexual behaviour", because that's what you're implying isn't it? The same old everyone is born bisexual bullcrap, or even that "most people are". Oh and before any fucktard tells me that I'm contradicting myself sexual fluidity =/= (innate) bisexuality. People can even become attracted to animals, for your fucking info.

Also, choosing to have sex with the opposite sex, aroused or not, makes you a fucking traitor and you should be shot.

R42 You're still gay if you're only exclusively AROUSED by men. Considering to do it with a woman makes you an open minded, no wait sorry, I meant a FUCKING TRAITOROUS CUNT.

Unless you're willing to do it, because you ARE attracted, and call yourself gay, then you're a traitorous homoflexible bislut.

Oh great R51 more of that, "you're young and horny, so anything can arouse you, but none of that is ~real~" bullshit. If you're attracted to pine trees, you're fucking attracted. Just like if you're attracted to men, if you're "straight".

It's even funnier when people think it doesn't count, because it's about what you're ~emotionally/romantically~ attracted to Sexual orientation is the PHYSICAL ACT and SEXUAL AROUSAL. Homoromanticism IS the emotional attraction. Fuck, is that so hard to understand?

LOL R53, you're a filthy homoflexible cunt. All bisexuals that lean close to the gay end of the spectrum are NOT born that way. They were gay from the start, but chose to turn bi, for whatever stupid reason. Shoot yourself, traitor _|_ ^.^

R60 not everyone is a pathetic fucking self-loathing piece of shit like you who WANTS to become attracted to the opposite sex. Those people that hate bisexuals because they can't be attracted to women "like them", are just potential-bisexual slutssss.

R63 - Everyone? Shoot yourself. Kinsey never said everyone or that most people are bisexual, bislut supremacist.

>If you prefer straight sex, your straight. If you also like gay sex, you're still whatever your first urge is, which makes bisexuality a myth.

More like "If you like straight sex, you're straight. If you started liking gay sex AS WELL, you're bi. And you WERE whatever your first urge was"

Don't give me that whole born insert-ratio bisexual all along bullshit.

R74 - Discover? Lie? More like TURNED because they fucking chose it, and think their poor lives are sooo sad because they like dick, and can't like women. "Oh look at me, I am a r33l m@n n0w because I liek womenz!"

Actually shit like this happens more in the lesbian community, which is why the "hasbian" term is in the media. It isn't as much of a "secret" as it is in the gay community, probably because it happens more frequently.

R77 you're a fucktard. That would be a homoromantic or heteroromantic bisexual. Fucking Hell, why is it so hard for the term romantic orientation is to be raised awareness of? Why are you fucktards so dumb?

SEXUAL ORIENATION =/= LOVE AND LUST, ONLY LUST ROMANTIC ORIENATION = LOVE

One may simply use sexual orientation only when both orientations are aligned.

R82, fuck off filthy bislut. You're not gay. Dumbfucks that define their sexual orientation by who they fall in love with can just fucking die.

by Anonymousreply 8811/13/2012

r88 = Shelly Dankert?

by Anonymousreply 8911/13/2012

lol, R81

I don't think bisexuality is real either. I think they are just screwed up people.

by Anonymousreply 9011/13/2012

Here's the argument for it being false, OP.

It seems completely foreign to me as I only want to have sex with one gender. Therefore, I won't believe that others' sexuality is different than mine because that's counterintuitive to me.

In other words, a complete and utter lack of empathy and willingness to realize that the fact that one's sexuality is x doesn't' mean that others' sexuality might be a whole variety of other variables.

by Anonymousreply 9111/13/2012

I think we need to ask ourselves a semantic question.

Are gay and straight people by definition only attracted to one gender, or are they primarily attracted to one gender. Is everyone who has some degree of sexual attraction for both genders, bisexual, or does it take a more significant degree of attraction to both genders to make one bisexual.

Either way, there are bisexual people. But to engage in a discussion of this when people have different semantic understandings may be interesting, to a point, but only to a point. People might agree in principle but disagree only as to the words used to express those principles. At the same time others are disagreeing in principle.

As for my own belief, it mirrors Kinsey's. Sexuality is a spectrum not a dichotomy. And there are people on all points on that spectrum.

I also believe that socially, particularly in post HIV society, many, particularly men, have felt the need in practice to identify more on one side of the spectrum than on the middle. This is also true because while there may have been a time, the 70s for instance, when bisexuality was more widely practiced, now people tend to think of it as merely a product of that time. And it is also true because a great many people are oriented toward finding one person to commit to, and since that one person, with rare exceptions, is either male or female, than bisexuality ceases to be a them in their lives.

by Anonymousreply 9211/13/2012

Bisexuality does exist. Diplomacy too...

by Anonymousreply 9311/13/2012

"OMG is that a real life bisexual!?" "No...just a sasquatch."

by Anonymousreply 9411/13/2012

[quote]Personally I think everyone is born with some attraction to both sexes and a bit of play is natural

Wrong-o, buck-o! Of the tens of thousands of boners I've popped in my lifetime, not a single one of them was caused by a female. Looking at a female, to me, is no more sexually arousing than looking at the wall or my cat.

by Anonymousreply 9511/13/2012

There was a study done about a decade ago, in Canada, if I remember correctly. Maybe NYT covered it? They attached electrodes to men who identified as bisexual. They showed them a series of images, attractive men and women. The men in the study somehow proved that true bisexuality may not exist b/c they were responding to the pics of men only or more strongly. Thought that study was kind of ground breaking. I'll try to find it.

by Anonymousreply 9611/13/2012

I just think that sometimes, under certain circumstances even hardcore gays or lesbians can get attracted to the opposite sex. That's a sign of bisexuality, however, i believe that most of the time one is sexually more interesting to one gender than both genders. As i said previously bisexuality does exist. Diplomacy too... We are diplomatic even to ourselves sometimes not only to others...it's all a matter of convenience and that's not always vulgar.

by Anonymousreply 9711/13/2012

I just think that sometimes, under certain circumstances even hardcore gays or lesbians can get attracted to the opposite sex. That's a sign of bisexuality, however, i believe that most of the time one is sexually more interested to one gender than both genders. As i said previously bisexuality does exist. Diplomacy too... We are diplomatic even to ourselves sometimes not only to others...it's all a matter of convenience and that's not always vulgar.

by Anonymousreply 9811/13/2012

The intensity of the emotional part defines our sexuality. One is more intense with men or more intense with women...of course everyone can have experiences with both sexes, it's not that difficult when you need desperately to be loved.

by Anonymousreply 9911/13/2012

when you are starving you can eat grass, but that doesn't mean you should, or that you like it

by Anonymousreply 10011/13/2012

R100, hehe! Gotcha!

by Anonymousreply 10111/13/2012

[quote]The men in the study somehow proved that true bisexuality may not exist b/c they were responding to the pics of men only or more strongly. Thought that study was kind of ground breaking. I'll try to find it.

Actually the original study was flawed, they ran it again after they recruited men with a bisexual history and found that (no shit) men could be bisexual in their arousal.

by Anonymousreply 10211/13/2012

Nothing is just natural... Even nature can be twisted. That's why we keep on debating, we are not sure of anything, not really.

by Anonymousreply 10311/13/2012

Bisexuality is real in both men and women. I have know many of both sexes throughout my life. Homophobia has/had no more to do with it that it does in predominantly homosexuals and heterosexuals. Why is this so hard for some gay men to accept?

by Anonymousreply 10411/13/2012

this thread just goes to prove that if you repeat a lie often enough it will eventually get accepted as fact. okay, you guys win. bisexuality is REAL. you have finally convinced us fags. okay, now stop it already.

by Anonymousreply 10511/13/2012

[95] EXACTLY. Fucking bisluts.

by Anonymousreply 10612/27/2012

Bisexual orientation exists, even many gays and"straights" have it.

Bisexual preference is a myth, since almost all who claim to have it are lying.

Problem solved. Go back to your games.

by Anonymousreply 10712/27/2012

Only ignorant people think this, but also some gay men/lesbian women DO use the bisexual label before progressing to the gay label, and there are BILLIONS of straight people who are bisexual and refuse to identify as such. So it then makes people skeptical regarding bisexuality. Which is wrong but obviously, a lot of people are simple minded.

In fact, bisexuality is the most common sexuality. Sexual orientation is a continuum.

by Anonymousreply 10812/27/2012

Bisexuality, like fibromyalgia, does not exist in Dataloungeland. Also chronic depression can be eliminated by exercising and eating right, and if you don't moisturize you might as well just shoot your face off right now.

by Anonymousreply 10912/27/2012

Honestly, I've never been with a woman, and I've never found women sexy, but I think the reasons some (and it's not most, it's a minority of gay men who are like this) gay men have this hatred against bisexuals is heterophobia and misogyny. I don't even think it's flat out hatred of bisexuality. More like, this gay vs straight mentality that they have, and this attitude that if a guy even thinks about screwing a girl, they're filthy and a traitor. That women are disgusting, and thinking about women in a sexual way makes you disgusting. I also think some of these gay guys are threatened by bisexuals and consider them a detriment to the gay cause.

The gay men who think bisexuals are screwed up are the screwed up ones, and you're an embarrassment. Shut the fuck up.

by Anonymousreply 11012/27/2012

Bisexual isn't real, so you need to get over it. Either you're straight or gay, no in between.

by Anonymousreply 11112/27/2012

Bisexuals are too ashamed to admit they are homosexual.

by Anonymousreply 11212/27/2012

The anti-homosexual in society are promoting this idea because to them homosexuality is diviant behavior. You are a murderer if you murder one person, even though you might have interacted with a million people who you did not murder. If you have one homosexual relationship, then you are a sexual deviant, even though you might have had sexual relations with many women in the past. In my youth, the way it was put was "once a cocksucker, always a cocksucker".

by Anonymousreply 11312/27/2012

Bisexuality is valid, but bisexuals men are lame who will always flaunt their love for pussy and always end up living, for all intents and purposes, convention hetero lives.

Same with the ladies

by Anonymousreply 11412/27/2012

I wonder if some bisexuals say they are bi because they can't relate to the gay stereotypes? I know I have played the bi card, because I did not want to be lumped in with the butches. I do believe bisexuality exists though

by Anonymousreply 11512/27/2012

r110 sO true!! I am 80% most attracted to females(feminine, nice women) yet I do like penis on occasion and find men attractive. I get so much shit from dykes for that because they are threatened

by Anonymousreply 11612/27/2012

The last bisexual i met was very dismissive, and passive agressive with me, like I did something to him--while standing there watching him try to mack on my best girlfriend. The guy blew smoke in my face, was very rude.

Does that make all bisexuals jerks? no.

Cause, I meet a lot of gay men and they are jerks to, and that doesn't stop me from dating them.

I have a problem with creeps, not labels. I think people need to stop with this ranting and raving about the issues relegated to "bisexual" labels... it is counterproductive to gay social progress.

by Anonymousreply 11712/28/2012
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