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Why are there so many gay bars in NYC but only two Lesbian bars?

Someone asked me this and I couldn't answer. I can name 15-20 bars that cater to gay men but only two that cater to gay women, Cubbyhole and Henrietta's.


by Anonymousreply 57February 13, 2011 2:14 PM

Women homo and hetero don't do the bar scene as much as men. Also, women would rather spend their money on other things.

by Anonymousreply 1February 4, 2011 5:02 PM

Women have less disposable income. Lesbians as a sub-group have even less disposable income than women in general. It is very difficult for a Lesbian Bar to survive with NYC rents, taxes, etc.

by Anonymousreply 2February 4, 2011 5:05 PM

Most lesbians I know in Manhattan are very well-to-do R2.

by Anonymousreply 3February 4, 2011 5:10 PM

There are more gays than lesbians...?

by Anonymousreply 4February 4, 2011 5:12 PM

Is the Dutchess still around? It was a black lesbian / trannie bar. They would cut a bitch.

by Anonymousreply 5February 4, 2011 5:12 PM

Because they have hardware stores.

by Anonymousreply 6February 4, 2011 5:12 PM

the matriarchal hegemony creates "communities" for women, whereas males have to seek out safety in bars.

by Anonymousreply 7February 4, 2011 5:13 PM

R2? Enough.

by Anonymousreply 8February 4, 2011 5:17 PM

right on Q, a full on dumb assed response from David, I mean mhb.

by Anonymousreply 9February 4, 2011 5:18 PM

Lesbians don't have the same relentless sexual hunger that gays have to impel them out into a cold winder night to find cock.

Women get sex in other ways. And can be more satisfied with one person than men can.

by Anonymousreply 10February 4, 2011 5:19 PM

Lesbians don't like bars as much as gay men. Lesbians tend to hang out at bowling alleys, truck stops, golf courses, and softball games.

by Anonymousreply 11February 4, 2011 5:19 PM

You're misinformed. Lesbian Nightlife list two dozen mostly-lesbain bars in the city and boroughs, tho a few are by particular nights.

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by Anonymousreply 12February 4, 2011 6:12 PM


by Anonymousreply 13February 4, 2011 6:12 PM

R2 - That's an obnoxiously sexist comment and so very untrue, you boob.

by Anonymousreply 14February 4, 2011 6:25 PM

Can we make a Lesbian vs Gay-who is better? thread?

by Anonymousreply 15February 4, 2011 6:29 PM

[quote]Can we make a Lesbian vs Gay-who is better? thread?%0D %0D Why? We already have hundreds of them.

by Anonymousreply 16February 4, 2011 6:32 PM

r5, The Duchess (not spelliin) is now a General Nutrition Center. They got into trouble with the State Liquor Authority for refusing to admit men.

by Anonymousreply 17February 4, 2011 6:33 PM

Is this true about the economics of gay women? Can anyone post a good link? I didn't realize they were so much worse off financially than gay men.

by Anonymousreply 18February 4, 2011 7:35 PM

Lesbians don't drink alcohol.

by Anonymousreply 19February 4, 2011 7:41 PM

MYSANGIST, too, R14.

by Anonymousreply 20February 4, 2011 7:43 PM

R19 is being funny

by Anonymousreply 21February 4, 2011 7:44 PM

only a lebian would want to amke a thread about it. men dont care. its the women who are obsessed with these gender comparisons and their own lack of measuring up and the chips they create and place on their own shoulders that are based much more in their own fears and self doubt than any real happenings in the world.

gay men dont give a shit.

by Anonymousreply 22February 4, 2011 7:44 PM

Lesbians are more Country dwellers. When people talk about Gay NYC, they mean Gay men not Gay women.

by Anonymousreply 23February 4, 2011 7:45 PM

there is no such thing as a gay womam. The only womyn who allow themselves to be slandered with the penised term are self haters.

by Anonymousreply 24February 4, 2011 7:49 PM

I'm afraid I have to agree with R2. Lesbians compared to gay men are some some of the poorest cunts you ever will see. Dyke bars just can't afford to stay in the black these days.

by Anonymousreply 25February 4, 2011 8:02 PM

Let's call it like it is, Lesbians are cheap, they will share a beer rather then buy two. How can any bar survive on that.

by Anonymousreply 26February 4, 2011 8:06 PM

Alas, while once vast herds of lesbians roamed the boroughs, at the turn of the century they were hunted to near extinction, leaving only a few savage beasts to graze, drink and migrate between Staten Island and Mitchfest.

They just don't need the bars anymore.

by Anonymousreply 27February 4, 2011 8:11 PM

There are only seven lesbians in New York. And six of them live in Park Slope.%0D %0D All the other lesbians you see are just smoke and mirrors.

by Anonymousreply 28February 4, 2011 8:18 PM

Hmmmm, let's ask Suze Orman why gay women don't have money. Oh wait...

by Anonymousreply 29February 4, 2011 8:19 PM

um R26, that shows how little you know about the womyn's community. they are not "SHARING' a beer... they are BUILDING COMMUNITY by engaging in nutritional and ritual partaking of sustinance.

If you understood their higher drive to create lasting relationships and the internal voice of the earth goddess that tells them how to connect, you would not embarrass yourself that way.

by Anonymousreply 30February 4, 2011 8:21 PM

OP, it comes down to basic economics. Supply and Demand.

My experience as a New York Lesbian is many of the 20-30 somethings spend their weekday evenings doing other things, as opposed to drinking. Many of my manhattanite lesbian friends are in MBA, Masters and Phd programs - and are in night classes a few nights a week. Drinking isn't a daily routine in our world. As far as the notion that lesbians in Manhattan are poorer than their gay brothers, well, many of the lesbians I know are doing quite well in their professional careers and make fairly high salaries.

Also, we have ladies nights. The venue's change, but ladies nights are usually once a week. Instead of venturing to a bar like Henretta's or Cubbyhole (which is more mixed than lesbian) we go to ladies nights instead.

There simply isn't the demand for more lesbian bars in the city.

by Anonymousreply 31February 4, 2011 8:34 PM

thank you for that keynesian analysis, BFF@R31

by Anonymousreply 32February 4, 2011 8:43 PM

A friend of mine was the Exec Chef at a very well-known, semi-expensive West Village restaurant. She hated it when a party of lesbians came in. Everyone always had super-specific, super-picky orders. "Do you have any gluten-free options?" "Can I get my sauce on the side?" "Do you use butter to cook with that?" "Does this dish have onions?"

And after all that, they all have a glass of wine each, gorge on free bread and tap water and then tip 10%.

Meanwhile, she loved it when a party of gay men came in. They barely ate but were cool with whatever was on the menu, drank like fish and tipped big.

This is why there are no lesbian bars in NYC.

by Anonymousreply 33February 4, 2011 8:58 PM

omg misshelenbedd at R33, your hate for women is VILE!

by Anonymousreply 34February 4, 2011 9:04 PM

Most bars can't afford the insurance premiums due to all the bar fights.

by Anonymousreply 35February 4, 2011 9:11 PM

-lesbians being women don't tip well.

-because of this most bars have to charge more for alcohol to pay their employees a decent wage.

-lesbian clientele decamps for Hooters.

by Anonymousreply 36February 4, 2011 9:12 PM

I know of lesbians who tip well, however they are not the type to enter a dodgy lesbian bar.%0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 37February 4, 2011 10:39 PM

I can't think of *any* lesbian bars in Los Angeles. Just nights.

by Anonymousreply 38February 5, 2011 12:23 AM

Will you fucking queens just STFU?%0D %0D %0D That means you too, mhb.%0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 39February 5, 2011 12:51 AM

R31 = lesbian version of Kirker

by Anonymousreply 40February 5, 2011 12:57 AM

R25 I would not say lezbos are the poorest cunts, but some of them are the nastiest cunts ever!!!

by Anonymousreply 41February 5, 2011 1:06 AM

Because straight people go to male gay bars occasionally. They think it's fun and trendy. They don't want to go to some lezzie bar.

by Anonymousreply 42February 5, 2011 1:14 AM

I would imagine that IF there was a market for Lesbian bars in NYC, they'd exist. There just must not be a market.

by Anonymousreply 43February 5, 2011 1:15 AM

If bars would offer some bread pudding, the lesbians would come in droves...

by Anonymousreply 44February 5, 2011 1:22 AM

Insurance for lesbian bars is sky high. They keep putting in claims for broken pool cues and wrecked pool tables when the fights break out.

by Anonymousreply 45February 5, 2011 1:32 AM

I have to wonder about the poor straight schlubs who think they've never met a real lesbian, and whose only exposure to "lesbians" is in porn for straight guys.

What would they expect walking into a lesbian bar?

by Anonymousreply 46February 5, 2011 1:39 AM

because estrogen kills

by Anonymousreply 47February 5, 2011 9:08 AM

I am so guilty. I am one reason there are so few lesbian bars compared to gay bars. I am a lesbian and I just don't go to bars. I would much rather socialize at a party, a concert, a golf game, a boating trip, a causal get together.. anything but a bar. For some reason I find lesbian bars depressing. They just do not feel like joyous places.

by Anonymousreply 48February 6, 2011 12:54 AM

a golf game?

by Anonymousreply 49February 6, 2011 1:33 AM

[quote]Lesbians don't have the same relentless sexual hunger that gays have to impel them out into a cold winder night to find cock. %0D %0D The hunger impels them to impale, or seek to be impaled.

by Anonymousreply 50February 6, 2011 1:46 AM

There was an article in NYMag not long ago that for the first time there were more Lesbian Bars than Gay Bars in the city. Most of them were in Brooklyn. But I foreget the exact listings, there were tons for all different types of women.

by Anonymousreply 51February 6, 2011 1:48 AM

LOL R35!

by Anonymousreply 52February 6, 2011 1:51 AM

Sorry, it's not that there are more Lesbian bars. The quote actually was:%0D %0D "For the first time in memory, gay nightlife in New York was dominated by the ladies."%0D %0D article at link.

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by Anonymousreply 53February 6, 2011 1:51 AM

r38, what about The Palms?%0D %0D It's more the ladie's nights that move around because women just don't want to go out every night of the week.

by Anonymousreply 54February 6, 2011 1:58 AM

I was only kidding about the insurance but it's based on experience of a friend who owned a gay bar for many years. The pool table was off-limits to lesbians due to fights. That's not to say all lesbians get in fights but it may be that pool-playing lesbians are prone to altercations. He claimed that no males ever got into a fight at the pool table.

by Anonymousreply 55February 7, 2011 4:11 PM

Gay guys f*uck off their aggression, instead of fight. No fist fights, but 10 anonymous partners in 1 night.

Many Lesbians are domestic, have kids and just don't go out that often.

by Anonymousreply 56February 8, 2011 1:38 PM

i remember the state liquor authority problem.

by Anonymousreply 57February 13, 2011 2:14 PM
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