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Did people know the Village People were gay?

all those bridesmaids and grooms in the bible belt doing YMCA moves at their wedding must have been a liittle dense

by Anonymousreply 7511/09/2013

What, they're not allowed to like the song just because the group is gay?

by Anonymousreply 102/03/2011

Uhm, I didn't know the Village People were gay when they first performed Macho Man. And, I'm not that stupid.

by Anonymousreply 202/03/2011

oddly, everyone back then wore short shorts and disco danced so that part didn't seem so gay back then.

by Anonymousreply 302/03/2011

r3 is correct. In the Seventies, even many straight dudes wore porn 'staches, cutoff jean shorts, and tank tops. So everyone's gaydar was thrown off.

by Anonymousreply 502/03/2011

Not at first. It was six months or so after they were popular that word started spreading around junior high. Everyone had the same funny reaction: shock, followed by realization of what the boys had been singing about all along.

by Anonymousreply 602/03/2011


by Anonymousreply 702/03/2011

Nobody realized it until they saw "Can't Stop The Music." When the YMCA number came on the screen, lightbulbs suddenly clicked on in people's heads and they began to put two and two together.

by Anonymousreply 802/03/2011

We just thought they hadn't found the right woman yet.

by Anonymousreply 902/03/2011

Wait ... they're GAY ?? Oh my gosh......

by Anonymousreply 1002/03/2011

No, they didn't.

by Anonymousreply 1102/03/2011

No more than Father O'Ryan over at St. Ignatius.

by Anonymousreply 1202/03/2011

I remember Johnny Carson as Carnac saying something like, "May your only son be locked in a sauna with the Village People" (when the audience didn't laugh at something, Carnac would issue a curse). I would have been in high school at that time and Carson's remark obviously made an impression on me. So yes, people had a clue about the Village People.

by Anonymousreply 1302/03/2011

How could anyone not know after a Nancy Walker directed Can't Stop the Music? She was a notorious fag hag.

by Anonymousreply 1402/03/2011

My neighbors didn't. %0D %0D

by Anonymousreply 1502/03/2011


by Anonymousreply 1602/03/2011

The fundies are still doing the same thing today! Look at Clay Aiken and the Jonas Brothers.

by Anonymousreply 1702/03/2011

Didn't/don't some of the Village People claim to be straight?%0D %0D Anyway, straight people then were not as hyperaware of gay subtext as they are now. It's not that they were stupid, it just wasn't on the radar. Also, the song just wasn't as iconic back then, it was just a disco song to most. Not used at every event and occasion like it is now.

by Anonymousreply 1802/04/2011

I was in grades six and seven and yes, everyone knew but no one cared because they really weren't that sexual.

by Anonymousreply 1902/04/2011

When I was in high school back then, I had no idea that they were gay or connected with anything gay. And I'm from San Francisco...I just thought they were an eccentric bunch of guys singing and dancing.

by Anonymousreply 2002/04/2011

[quote] all those bridesmaids and grooms in the bible belt doing YMCA moves at their wedding must have been a little dense

And what about all those slobs who still do the YMCA moves during the 7th inning stretch at almost every major league baseball park TODAY?


by Anonymousreply 2102/04/2011

I don't remember straight women falling in love with the Village People. They were kind of cartoon characters, not really marketed as sex symbols.

by Anonymousreply 2302/04/2011

[quote]the same with Boy George in the 80's - the mainstream didn't want to believe they were gay so they didn't, especially young women who had crushes on them.

WHAT delusional fish had a crush on Boy George and thought he was straight?

by Anonymousreply 2402/04/2011

Was'nt the policeman/lead singer married to Phylicia Rashad way back when?

by Anonymousreply 2502/04/2011

Girls did have a crush on Boy George. They and gays were the ones who went to his concerts. Why do you think he denied he was gay? And girls thought the blond construction worker in the Village People was hot. All these guys were in the teen magazines. THey were marketed to that audience which is why it was so important they say there were straight. Trust me, I bought those mags because I was in love with Andy Gibb.

by Anonymousreply 2602/04/2011

[quote]Trust me, I bought those mags because I was in love with Andy Gibb.

So being stupid makes you an authority?

by Anonymousreply 2702/04/2011

I don't know about the Village People, but I have often wondered about Queen.

One of my favorite Onion articles was titled "Nation's Sports Fans Shocked By Truth About 'We Will Rock You' Anthem."

by Anonymousreply 2802/04/2011

So what?%0D %0D Are gay people lepers?

by Anonymousreply 2902/04/2011

I was in the Army back when the VP were big. (Yes, I'm ancient.)%0D %0D I was out as much as I safely could be back then. In fact, I slept with one of my bosses, an alcoholic warrant officer who thought he was wise to the world. At some point or other, I mentioned to him that the VP were gay. He was shocked, absolutely shocked, and said, "They can't be gay. They were in Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade!"%0D %0D He's the same guy who told me that Rock Hudson couldn't be gay. "Rock Hudson is a man's man," he said.%0D %0D Sometimes straight people just amaze me with the depths of their stupidity.

by Anonymousreply 3002/04/2011

You were truly clueless, r20, or perhaps you are straight. I was a junior and a nerd in HS in the SF burbs in c.1978 and even I figured this out. Maybe you didn't look at them as lustfully as I did. Camp and irony aren't new inventions. Did you not ever read Herb Cain or Tales of the City in the Chron?

by Anonymousreply 3102/04/2011

They're not gay, just lazy.

by Anonymousreply 3202/04/2011

Such lovely boys!

by Anonymousreply 3302/04/2011

Herb Cain?

by Anonymousreply 3402/04/2011

Funny, here is the first video of "YMCA" from 1978. It was completely asexual yet in all of The Village, they chose to shoot in front of the Ramrod. And then only two years later in "Can't Stop The Music", "YMCA", despite Valerie Perrine's boobs becomes one the most homo-erotic five minutes in screen history. Singing, dancing, full frontal towel snapping, pretty boys wrestling, synchronized swimming and Bruce Jenner in short shorts.

by Anonymousreply 3502/04/2011

R24, I went to high school with a girl who would get angry if someone said Boy George was anything other than straight. She dressed like him; hat, oversized shirt, makeup, hair, everything. She was totally obsessed with him.

It was really creepy.

by Anonymousreply 3602/04/2011

My question about the Village People is-- did people earnestly like their music? As in, did people dance to it without irony? Did they say to each other in all sincerity, "Have you heard the new Village People single? It's slammin!" (Or whatever the word of the day was.) Or was Village People music always just goofy good fun and everyone laughed and sang along?

I ask because a lot of disco music from that era is excellent and holds up quite well. But the Village People, their music and their lyrics are so incredibly silly that I can't imagine anyone taking it seriously.

by Anonymousreply 3702/04/2011

I don't think VP were considered a band so much as an act. The music was secondary to the show. I don't know anyone who ever bought one of their albums.%0D %0D The people who thought they were straight were the same people who thought Liberace was straight.

by Anonymousreply 3802/04/2011

The only str8 Village Person was the black guy.%0D We were allowed to say "black" when they were popular.

by Anonymousreply 3902/04/2011

I saw then first on Don Kirshner's Rock Concert. The moment, and it was the first moment, they started hip grinding and booty shaking I KNEW.

by Anonymousreply 4002/04/2011

I was too young in the 70s to know who the Village People were.

The first male singer everybody thought was gay, was Prince. I thought Gay meant; guy who likes to drive a purple motorcycle. I didn't know it was a sex thing. All males in the 80s wore mascara.

by Anonymousreply 4102/04/2011

[quote]Maybe you didn't look at them as lustfully as I did. Camp and irony aren't new inventions. Did you not ever read Herb Cain or Tales of the City in the Chron?%0D %0D R31, I wasn't interested in them that way. I was into Andy Gibb back in '78. I remember occasionally reading Herb Caen and I can recall seeing Tales of the City in the Chronicle, but I never read it. It just never occurred to me that VP was considered a gay oriented group.

by Anonymousreply 4202/04/2011

According to my friend Randy Jones (the Cowboy in the VP), the lead singer (Victor - the cop) claimed to be straight (and later "found God"), but in order for them to get their job, they all had to submit to the casting couch of Jacques Morali.%0D %0D It was just easier for some than others.%0D %0D And Victor, BTW, was so conflicted about what he'd done, he LEFT the VP for a while (after they made the movie) and was replaced by someone who looked just like him. But when Victor fell on hard times (so to speak), he returned to the fold.%0D %0D Randy, BTW, was always out - he's a doll and a hoot!

by Anonymousreply 4302/04/2011

r42, I would say that you just made me vomit in my mouth a little, but because I humiliated myself by misspelling Herb Caen's name, I shall remain silent.

by Anonymousreply 4402/04/2011

[quote]the same with Boy George in the 80's %0D %0D I was working in South America when Boy George became a hit back in the U.S. Down in S.A., I would hear him on the radio all the time. It wasn't til I returned to the U.S. that I saw him on TV. It was a total shock because I had a very different picture of the singer in my head for many months.

by Anonymousreply 4502/04/2011

Back then, gays were fun, dancing boys...not as scary as today when they're out demanding equal rights.

by Anonymousreply 4602/05/2011

Yes, OP. We knew. People in other galaxies knew the Village People were gay.

by Anonymousreply 4802/06/2011

No, and I didn't care. I knew [bold]I [/bold] was gay when I was sucking off Glenn Hughes at Danceteria.

by Anonymousreply 4902/06/2011

Macho Man was a much bigger hit at the time.

by Anonymousreply 5002/06/2011

I barely remember the 1970s. I was a little boy and just remember the tail end. Everytime I see a film from that time period, I can't help but think it somehow seemed like a better time to come of age than in the 90s. %0D %0D I'm trying to figure out just how big Village People were. How it felt to be gay in that day, etc.

by Anonymousreply 5106/06/2011

I thought that only one of the Village People was gay (I can't remember which and I'm too lazy to Google it).

by Anonymousreply 5206/06/2011

Leatherman was straight so I've read. I just cannot possibly see how... as I read that that was his actual clothing. Not to mention having a cabaret act solo later in life.

by Anonymousreply 5306/06/2011

For the person that knows Randy...%0D %0D Does he have any involvement with Sixuvus? I'm really big on people who do the right thing, etc. I know some of the former members are involved. I hope all the living ones are. It annoys me when I see the new guys taking over, but makes it a bit easier if I know the originals are still making some cash and involved.

by Anonymousreply 5406/06/2011

Apparently they never saw Felipe or David get fisted on the bar of The Anvil.

by Anonymousreply 5506/06/2011

Yes, R25, Victor Willis was married to Phylicia Ayers-Allen who later became Phylicia Rashad who later became [italic]The Cosby Show[/italic] mom who died and who later became the [italic]The Cosby Show[/italic] mom who is still alive.

by Anonymousreply 5606/06/2011

[quote]My question about the Village People is-- did people earnestly like their music? As in, did people dance to it without irony? Did they say to each other in all sincerity, "Have you heard the new Village People single? It's slammin!"Or was Village People music always just goofy good fun and everyone laughed and sang along?

It was never serious music, just silly stuff. No one was ever like, "Have you heard the new bassline in 'In the Navy?' It's sick!"

It was also good for stuff like the roller rink.

by Anonymousreply 5706/06/2011

They couldn't have been fooling very many. I'm in my 20's - obviously not alive back then - but I can tell from the videos that every last one of them - yes, even the cop and the leatherman - is a homo.

by Anonymousreply 5806/06/2011

I'm always amazed the people could have had their blinders on when it comes to the Village People. Back then, the sexual revolution was starting to wind down, but you still had these acts catering to the Gay population. I mean, did anyone really thing George Michael was straight after seeing the "Wake Me Up Before You Go-Go" video?

by Anonymousreply 5906/06/2011

Did you know that Phylicia Rashad was once married to Victor (the cop) Willis, the lead singer of The Village People? He was her second husband. He has since remarried.

by Anonymousreply 6006/06/2011

Oh sorry, r56 already told you that.

by Anonymousreply 6106/06/2011

Here in the UK the Village People were marketed as a gay act, so I'm surprised to hear they weren't back home. Freddie wasn't out, Elton wasn't out, but the Village People were.

by Anonymousreply 6206/06/2011

The music was disco so it was the "pop" music of the times and dominated the charts. You could buy the vinyl album or cassette or you could buy the 45 rpm single but usually a 12" vinyl extended single was released too, so yes it was taken seriously for the times.

Greenwich Village was known world wide as a gay mecca so yeah, lots of people knew. But as someone else said it was the sexual revolution and before AIDS so no one cared. Everything was accepted in those days.

by Anonymousreply 6306/06/2011

Anyone have a link to the Can't stop the music version of YMCA?

I keep getting Rihanna videos when I search for it.

I want to compare to the original...thanks for that link btw.

by Anonymousreply 6406/06/2011

Willis was replaced BEFORE CSTM.%0D %0D Here R64

by Anonymousreply 6506/06/2011

That straights (and a lot of gays apparently) did not know that the VP were gay is reflective of the pre-AIDS 1970s. They were part of a culture that openly celebrated youthful exuberance and expression. The decade of the eighties was a watershed in many ways. The anti-disco music movement (if you can call it that) was also very homophobic, as well as racist. Still, you had groups in the 80s like Frankie Goes to Hollywood singing a song about fist-f*%king, and popularizing T-shirts with "Relax" on them, and still people had no clue.

People still have no clue today. There were plenty who did not know that Rosie O'Donnell was gay. If a certain white haired TV reporter and host ever comes out, jaws will still drop.

by Anonymousreply 6606/06/2011

[quote]In the Seventies, even many straight dudes wore porn 'staches, cutoff jean shorts, and tank tops.

You mean like this?

by Anonymousreply 6706/06/2011

It's fun to stay at the Y M C A!

by Anonymousreply 6806/07/2011

Oh R58 - that is so the difference between then and now. I think most people (and we here are Not Representative,) would not have dreamed that a troupe of homosexuals would be so ... bold and what we now know as "out." I didn't. Anyone who caught the gayness in the song itself just figured the group was playing with it.

by Anonymousreply 6906/07/2011

Random question: When and where were music videos, like the one for YMCA, shown in the late 70s before there was MTV? Were they featured on music themed variety shows like Dance Fever, American Bandstand, or Soul Train?

by Anonymousreply 7006/07/2011

I've always wondered that too R70. %0D %0D My mom said she never saw these old music videos that show up from the 60s and 70s. She'd never heard of them until MTV. %0D %0D %0D I always find the Carpenters "Ticket to Ride" video a little odd.

by Anonymousreply 7106/07/2011

Only one or two of them are gay... I forget which ones.

by Anonymousreply 7206/08/2011

My Mom did. Don't k know at what point she did know, but she did say so eventually to me.

by Anonymousreply 7306/08/2011

What is amazing about the video so many years later are the signals: the handcuffs, the bandana (red--can't remember what that meant), the leather, the docks, The Ramrod, the McBurney (wild sex at that place--fucking and sucking 24/7). The dirty streets, the energy, the camp humor.%0D %0D A different time. I had a friend who lived one block from the McBurney in a one bedroom who paid 205$ a month for the place--and used to say "If I can get out of here I'm gone!" Imagine. %0D %0D The video is a wonderful reminder of the New York that vanished with AIDS and Herr Guilianni.

by Anonymousreply 7406/08/2011


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