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Pamela Des Barres and Groupies

Pamela Des Barres recently released a documentary for VH1 called Let%E2%80%99s Spend the Night Together. Here's a Q & A with Michael and the ladies at the link. What do we know about the old school rock groupies? I remember reading here once that Michael is bisexual although Pamela doesn't mention it in her books (I've read them all), any rumors?

by Anonymousreply 15111/29/2013

That reminds me, I still owe her for that mention in "I'm With the Band".

by Anonymousreply 101/12/2011

The big ones were Jimmy Page, Mick Jagger, and Keith Moon. I think Jim Morrison too.

by Anonymousreply 301/12/2011

She said she saw Jimmy's whips but he never used them on her and she sent out a press release refuting Keith Richard's comment that Mick has a 'tiny todger'.

by Anonymousreply 501/12/2011

Why doesn't that skanky whore just shrivel up and go away? No one gives a fuck.

by Anonymousreply 601/12/2011

I've met Michael a few times at a mutual friend's parties. He's actually quite funny, very friendly and looks great for his age.

At one party, I walked into the kitchen to find Michael with two really skanky looking chicks on either side of him, both of them with their hands down his pants.

by Anonymousreply 701/12/2011

R6 = Bebe Buell

by Anonymousreply 801/12/2011

[quote] she sent out a press release refuting Keith Richard's comment that Mick has a 'tiny todger'%0D %0D Someone's got to do god's work.

by Anonymousreply 1001/12/2011

Pamela Des Barre is still trying to milk that groupie shit? She's sixty years old now, I think. How pathetic. %0D %0D I've read her book "I'm With the Band" and some of the the follow-up "Take Another Piece of My Heart." That woman has the IQ of a rock. I'm serious; she is just plain dumb as a tree. She reminds me of that song by Jimi Hendrix, "Little Wing": "well, she's walking through the clouds/with a circus mind that's running wild/butterflies and zebras and fairy tales/that's all she ever thinks about." Her writing gives the impression that she is a perpetually horny 15 year old birdbrain. %0D %0D She thinks that all these rocks stars she serviced really CARED about her. She was also convinced that the affair with Jimmy Page was serious, that they were "in love" and that he was seriously considering marrying her. Like I said: dumb as a tree. %0D %0D She writes in a juvenile, semi-pornographic prose, says stuff like "I climbed onto him to come buckets" and that seeing some rock star gave her "sticky thighs." Yech. %0D %0D The pictures in her books show her literally hanging onto men, grinning idiotically. And here's something I noticed: in her books and on her website she has pictures of the GTOS but she never identifies the other GTOS individually, just captiong the photos "The GTOS." I wonder why that is? I think I know; she thinks she's the star, so why bother identifying the others in the group. %0D %0D So she's fucked a lot of rock what? It's no great achievement considered the guys she's fucked have probably stuck it into hundreds of women. She was just one more. But she thinks she's some hot stuff just because creeps like Jimmy Page and Mick Jagger have let her suck their dicks. %0D %0D At the end of her second book she's fucking a kid named "Jimmy Thrill" who is young enough to be her son, 17 years her junior. She claims that they are a "true blue couple." Of course the relationship ended, probably because Jimmy Thrill got tired of her worn-out vagina. %0D %0D I just wish she'd shut the fuck up. Who cares that she fucked Mick Jagger or Jimmy Pages decades ago? Why should anyone care about skanks like Patti D'Arbanville and Cynthia Plaster Caster and Lori Maddox and Connie Hamzy? They're all just a bunch of old sluts.%0D %0D And no, I'm not Bebe Buell. I'm just sick of old groupies who continue to yammer on about meaningless sexual encounters from thirty or forty years ago.

by Anonymousreply 1101/12/2011

Are Micheal and Pam still married?%0D %0D P.S. I agree with everything R11 said but I'd be curious to know how much the groupie scene has changed or it's the same old same old just not as publicized.

by Anonymousreply 1201/12/2011

She says in the book she didn't actually have sex with Jim Morrison, just partied and made out with him.

by Anonymousreply 1401/12/2011

To #12:

They're divorced, but still friends. They have a son who is an artist (he goes by the name Nick Rox)

There use to be a website years ago where groupies would post their "conquests". I believe it was taken down because it got a bit contentious. Bebe Buell was hated by many of the women posting, calling her all kinds of crazy. I think Pamela would even post there from time to time.

by Anonymousreply 1501/12/2011

"There use to be a website years ago where groupies would post their "conquests". I believe it was taken down because it got a bit contentious. Bebe Buell was hated by many of the women posting, calling her all kinds of crazy. I think Pamela would even post there from time to time."

Yes, that was Groupie Central, I think part of the old message board is still up, though the last time I looked, there didn't appear to be any new posts.

The heavy metal groupie board was quite funny, those women didn't hold anything back. I think that was called Metal Sludge or something like that, it's been so long since I've read those types of forums.

The people here putting down Pamela, simply don't get it. Pam is a product of the airy-fairy 1960s: lots of sex with different people, lots of drugs, flower power etc.

I think if Pamela wasn't screwing all those rockers, she'd be screwing lots of regular guys. Maybe she just liked sex?!

by Anonymousreply 1601/12/2011

The most beautiful of the groupies of that era was Catherine James.

The woman had a horrendous life, her mother, who was also a great beauty, was severely mentally ill, she abused both Catherine and, I think, a brother. Her father, a race car driver, was a tranvestite.

Catherine wrote a book about her sad childhood and groupie days. There are so many reasons why these women so freely gave themselves to these rockstars, in her case she wanted to be loved.

She did end up marrying a rocker, Denny Laine, who was in The Moody Blues, then went on to join Wings. He was a horribly abusive husband. I think certain people can simply pick a victim out quite easily.

Other than an abusive mom and horrible husband, Catherine led an interesting life, she hung wit the Warhol crowd at The Factory and actual had a career as a model. She had a son with Denny Laine.

She was featured in the famous 1969 Groupie Issue of Rolling Stone.

Catherine was also with Jimmy Page, there must have been something about this guy that so many women wanted to be with him. Could have been his gorgeous hair!

by Anonymousreply 1701/13/2011

I'm with R16. Miss Pamela seems like a nice, good-natured woman who was a star-struck hippie chick.

I'm not sure why anyone would feel the need to slam her here; it's not like DL doesn't have its share of sluts.

by Anonymousreply 1801/13/2011

R11 you sound bitter and jealous. You care way too much for someone who claims not to care.%0D %0D Some of us like hearing about the groupie scene back then and find it interesting.%0D %0D It was a big part of her life and is no different from hearing guys talk/reminisce about their days back in 'Nam or glory days as a star athlete.%0D %0D %0D Just, sayin'...

by Anonymousreply 1901/13/2011

"You sound bitter and jealous. You care way too much for someone who claims not to care."%0D %0D "Bitter and jealous?" Not hardly. Like I said, I read Des Barre's books and her life was never enviable, unless you consider being a sperm receptacle enviable. It does make me angry that she tries to make her aimless, meaningless life as a groupie out to be endless fun and excitement. She never had the brains to realize that she was just being used like a kleenex. She worshipped rock stars, who are by and large asshholes, and continues to do so. I think that's pretty sad.%0D %0D Her career as a groupie naturally waned as she got older. She said later that she couldn't compete with 15, 16 year old girls. I guess not; Jimmy Page dumped her for 14 year old Lori Maddox.%0D %0D She was into drugs. EVERYBODY back then was. But she didn't become a hard core addict; she'd just get bombed out of her skull frequently. %0D %0D She's famous for being a slut. What an achievement!

by Anonymousreply 2201/13/2011


by Anonymousreply 2301/19/2011

I am not sure how exactly she was being used when she was getting just as much fun and excitement from her experiences as the musicians were. She had her heart broken a few times, but who hasn't? I am surprised gay people would be so judgemental about sexuality.

by Anonymousreply 2401/20/2011

I watched that doc and I liked Pam. There were a couple of pathetic women in it, but she certainly wasn't one of them. Also, Cassandra "Elvira" Peterson is goddess! She must drink the blood of teen girls.

by Anonymousreply 2501/20/2011

I really want to see it but I don't get VH1, is it being streamed anywhere on the net?

by Anonymousreply 2601/20/2011


by Anonymousreply 2701/20/2011

Link to the Elvira part of the documentary on YouTube. I hope someone uploads more.

by Anonymousreply 2801/21/2011

I had no idea Michael Des Barres was an actor but I just caught a movie called Sugartown with him, Martin Kemp and John Taylor and it was surprisingly pretty good.

by Anonymousreply 2901/23/2011

Which one is the one Kate Hudson's character in Almost Famous is based on?

by Anonymousreply 3001/23/2011


by Anonymousreply 3101/23/2011

Didn't Michael Desbarres play Martin Mull's bitchy, argumentative husband on "Roseanne"?

by Anonymousreply 3201/23/2011

I believe that character was based on a mix of a few different groupies including Miss Pamela and Bebe Buell, R30.

by Anonymousreply 3301/24/2011

He played Wlliams, R21.

by Anonymousreply 3401/24/2011

"Roger Daltrey hung like three horses. Trust me."

Have you spent time with his horse cock? He does have a horse face!

Are you male or female?

by Anonymousreply 3601/24/2011

[quote]I had no idea Michael Des Barres was an actor but I just caught a movie called Sugartown with him, Martin Kemp and John Taylor and it was surprisingly pretty good.%0D %0D I love that movie beyond all reason!!

by Anonymousreply 3701/24/2011

Great info on led zep groupies

by Anonymousreply 3801/24/2011

Great site for pics

by Anonymousreply 3901/24/2011

Michael Des Barres was very funny as one of the Scum of the Earth on WKRP!

by Anonymousreply 4001/24/2011

He was also in the smelly car episode of Seinfeld, he was the owner of the restaurant where the valet worked that parked Jerry's car and made it smell like BO.

by Anonymousreply 4101/25/2011

Bebe Buell is just as crazy as Pamela and maybe even more so. I read her book, and delusional doesn't begin to cover it. The Elvis Costello section will make you scream. I pity poor Liv having that for a mother.

by Anonymousreply 4201/25/2011

Well, some guys like 'em crazy, and Buell was gorgeous once. She's mentioned in [italic]Please Kill Me[/italic], and she sounded dumb as a rock.

by Anonymousreply 4301/25/2011

I like Pamela. She paints a great picture of a fascinating time and her book that interviews groupies thro the ages is really great. Heartbreaking, dishy and funny. That poor blowjobbing groupie from Minnesota with the autistic kid. So depressing.

by Anonymousreply 4408/15/2011

Pamela was not a girlfriend of Jimmy Page.She just had one-nighter with him sometime in the 60's,I think.Compare her book to real history and tour dates of Led Zeppelin.You'll find she told many many lies in her book'I'm With The Band'.

by Anonymousreply 4502/27/2012

Do you think if Devon Wilson were alive? Would she write a book about sleeping with Duane Allman, Eric Clapton, Jimi Hendrix, and Quincy Jones? Probably not. She was from Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

by Anonymousreply 4602/27/2012

I didn't get the impression from her books that she was under any illusions that Jimmy Page or Mick Jagger or Keith Moon were serious about her. She reports Jimmy Page making some flirtatious comment about marrying her, but in context it seemed to me, and I got the impression it seemed to her, like the sort of spur of the moment bullshit men say to women when they want to keep them around for fucking purposes.

Pam knew the score. Musicians were notorious skanks who were touring constantly and didn't have much time for meaningful relationships, which was how the custom of taking advantage of fans who offered themselves came about in the first place, since after all they were young horny men, there was a sexual revolution going on, and they were too reckless or stoned to worry about VD or paternity suits or statutory rape charges. It was really Frank Zappa and his GTOs project (born of his own fascination with groupies, sexual and otherwise) that made her famous. Interestingly she never mentions being sexually involved with Zappa himself.

by Anonymousreply 4702/27/2012

I miss Groupie Central. It was a great source of rock gossip. Buell's meltdowns were hilarious.

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by Anonymousreply 4903/04/2012

"Pam knew the score."

Not really. She lived under the delusion that all her rock star lovers truly cared about her and respected her. She still believes that.

I remember the passage in her book where she said Jimmy Page "sleazed off" with Lori Maddox, dumping her unceremoniously in a club in front of a lot of other people. She said that the other people they were with commiserated with her and agreed she was "too good to be treated this way." What the hell made her think she was "too good to be treated this way?" She was just a GROUPIE, for God's sake. That's what rock stars DO to groupies; they use them, and then they dump them for somebody younger or better. She thought she and Page were "in love"; what an idiot she was and probably still is.

by Anonymousreply 5003/04/2012

R50, why are you so bent out of shape about this? If nothing else, she wrote a couple of books full of rock 'n' roll gossip, and DL should thank her for that. This IS supposed to be a gossip site, not a "judging people for whom they sleep with" site.

by Anonymousreply 5103/04/2012

TMZ or Radaronline posted an article in the last 2 weeks about Pamela.

She went in for some sort of procedure and it went horribily wrong.

She has lost her vision as a result.

by Anonymousreply 5203/04/2012

Her last book "Let's Spend the Night Together" sucks. It's like an oral history (*snicker*) of the most famous groupies telling their stories. Pathetic--a bunch of whores proud that they are whores.

by Anonymousreply 5303/04/2012

Sexual episodes that are 50 years old? This is what ranks as interesting gossip?

by Anonymousreply 5403/04/2012

"This IS supposed to be a gossip site, not a "judging people for whom they sleep with" site."

I'm not "judging people for who they sleep with." Who gives a shit who she slept with? Her stupidity does irk me, though. She's always come across as a woman with the mind of a particularly immature 15 year old girl.

And I do agree that gossip about meaningless sexual encounters that happened thirty or forty years ago is pretty stale gossip. It's sad that these old groupies are still rehashing their their silly "I fucked/sucked (fill in the blank)" stories. The guys these old groupies fucked probably don't even remember the encounters, but for them it was the highlight of their lives. Sad, indeed.

by Anonymousreply 5503/04/2012

[quote]Pathetic--a bunch of whores proud that they are whores.

Oh, get off your high horse, you big old prude. It's about time we stopped putting down women who are sexually active.

by Anonymousreply 5603/04/2012

Plant seems to have a problem with waitstaff. He was believed on several sites to be the answer to this blind item:

WHICH aging British rocker had a meltdown at a Starbucks in Austin, Texas, when his order wasn’t made to his standards? The legendary long-haired vocalist threw a FIT when the barista botched his beverage! Robert Plant

by Anonymousreply 5703/06/2012

Uh, R56, read the book--it's not about sexually active women, it's about women being whores.

by Anonymousreply 5803/06/2012

I'm sure Jimmy Page never told Pamela to marry him.She wrote in her book it was on August 31,1969.That day was Texas International Pop festival and Jimmy himself he hung out with Janis Joplin on the same day!(lol)

And why didn't she write Led Zep wives were also there when she saw Elvis Presley in las Vegas on August 12,1969?Maureen Plant,Pat Bonham and Mo Jones also attended the Elvis concert with their husbands.(Jimmy had not met Charlotte yet at that time,so Charlotte was not there) I'm sure Pamela actually was not there!!There are so many another doubts and inaccuracies in her book too.

by Anonymousreply 5903/18/2012

I'm sure Jimmy Page never told Pamela to marry him.She wrote in her book it was on August 31,1969.That day was Texas International Pop festival and Jimmy himself wrote on his official site that he hung out with Janis Joplin on the same day!(lol)

And why didn't she write Led Zep wives were also there when she saw Elvis Presley in las Vegas on August 12,1969?Maureen Plant,Pat Bonham and Mo Jones also attended the Elvis concert with their husbands.(Jimmy had not met Charlotte yet at that time,so Charlotte was not there) I'm sure Pamela actually was not there!!There are so many another doubts and inaccuracies in her book too.

by Anonymousreply 6003/18/2012

Pamela Des Barres never met Jimmy Page on April 11-14,1970 in Los Angeles,although she writes in her book that she and Jimmy met in those days.

They played in St.Louis on 11,Bloomington on 12,Montreal on 13 and Ottawa on 14!LZ didn't have any concerts in LA on April,1970.

How could Jimmy Page meet her at Hyatt House on April 14 night???He took his true partner Charlotte Martin on that tour then.There is a proof photo from that time.I really can't understand why Pamela DB fabricated so many her one-sided stories.

by Anonymousreply 6103/18/2012

Catherine James's book also has several inaccuracies about Jimmy Page.Her writing style is very much similar to Pamela's one.

Both of these women fabricated many stories on the biggest rock band in the 70's despite their slightest relationships with the lead guitarist.

by Anonymousreply 6203/18/2012

"read the book--it's not about sexually active women, it's about women being whore"

Idiot. On the one hand, there's something wrong with women because they allegedly aren't as "promiscuous" as men, and when they are, they are whores.

Stop being such a fucking nag and let women fuck as they please.

by Anonymousreply 6403/18/2012

"There are so many another doubts and inaccuracies in her book too."

Of course there would be. Except for her silly diary entries, she never kept track of dates and times and places. How could she? She was stoned a lot of the time back then. She's not very credible; she tends to see everything through rose-colored glasses. She views her aimless, meaningless groupie life as "fun." Fun? In her book she recounts an incident where she was crawling across a room, stoned out of her mind, until she got to Mick Jagger whereupon she jammed her hand down his pants. That sounds more pathetic and pitiful than fun.

She thought Jimmy Page was serious about her and considered marrying her. Years later during a interview a DJ asked her how she felt about Jimmy Page calling her a "bimbo." She huffed that Jimmy would NEVER use such a word to describe her. Then the DJ whipped out a tape he promptly played for her: a tape of Jimmy Page saying, when asked about her, "ah yes, Miss Pamela...I've known a lot of bimbos in my time. You can't believe everything you read." That gave her a little dose of reality.

by Anonymousreply 6503/18/2012

R65, that says way more about Jimmy Page than Pamela Des Barres.

by Anonymousreply 6603/18/2012

Yeah, R66. It says he didn't think much of her or of her much.

by Anonymousreply 6703/18/2012

So true, r67.

by Anonymousreply 6803/18/2012

I personally think Jimmy Page didn’t consider Pamela his girlfriend or his future partner at all in those days.She was JUST a groupie and Jimmy said about groupies that ‘that’s what they’re there for.’ He loved Jackie Deshannon and Charlotte Martin as his muses and he put only these two women’s photos into his book.He never put any photos of ex-groupies.

by Anonymousreply 6903/18/2012

Obviously she has suggested other groupies to write or claim their own stories exaggeratedly.

by Anonymousreply 7003/18/2012

In typical guy fashion he fabricated some feelings to get in her pants. It's happened to me a couple of times. I think guys of a certain type think that they need to sweep a woman off of her feet or they get temporarily in love with whomever they're sticking their dicks into.

It's usually immature guys or men who flit from intense relationship to relationship with no lag time in between. He talked about marrying her for Christ's sake.

This happens in the gay community but it's spotted as creepy pretty quick.

by Anonymousreply 7103/18/2012

Does she possibly think ‘I’ll make a history of rock stars’ love affairs? Unfortunately most rock stars had/have their true loves in their home town and they just used groupies for their temporary lust. I often hear that real Jimmy Page is a much different person from whom groupies or yellow journalists tell.I feel he just played a rock star on the road.

by Anonymousreply 7203/18/2012

To [R71],I never think Jimmy Page told Pamela to marry him.It must have been her fabrication to make her book more interesting.To begin with,she was not anywhere she claimed she was there. Pamela is a kind of a fraud(and a whore,of course).I convinced it when she and Cynthia Plaster Caster did a big fraud for Jimi Hendrix ‘the SEX TAPE’. Jimmy Page has been a mysterious and a silent man,and many bitches just take advantage of his that character.

by Anonymousreply 7303/18/2012

Pamela was/is an only gold digger and an only fake celebrity. It seems she eagerly wants to be a CELEB!(lol)

by Anonymousreply 7403/18/2012

To[R22] 'Jimmy Page dumped her for 14 year old Lori Maddox.'

He just often changed his unpaid whore on the road.To begin with,Pamela’s most claims(especially about Jimmy Page)are unreliable.Either way,Jimmy had his true love in England for a long time. He just needed a love doll for his lust when he was away from home.

by Anonymousreply 7603/19/2012

To [17] Unfortunately Catherine James was also just a groupie to Jimmy Page.Ross Halfin wrote in his blog that,look at his entry on Feb 4 2011.

'Looked at Rolling Stone's book on groupies,with photographs by the great Baron Wolman...People must have been on some strong hallucinogenic drugs.Or they had bad eye sight,'cos the girls are truly could you get an erection over Harlow or Sunshine?Fuck,I'd rather sleep with Peter Makowski than any of them.Perhaps they should have called the book 'Groupies and Other Ugly Girls'....I'll take a night ogling in Hakkasan any day.'


This Rolling Stone groupie book includes Pamela and Catherine James.If both of them were Jimmy’s girlfreinds he would never write this way.As you know he is Jimmy’s most close mate.I've heard currently Jimmy never wants ex-groupies to contact him.I find it is true.

by Anonymousreply 7703/19/2012

To [17]’’Catherine was also with Jimmy Page, there must have been something about this guy that so many women wanted to be with him. Could have been his gorgeous hair!’’

I can understand what you wan to say,but before it,I personally think those women just take advantage of Page’s silence about his privacy and a mysterious image. He never reacts to them even if they lie or fabricate stories as they like.People tend to think he admits their claims,but it is wrong.He just ignores those women. If he had sued Richard Cole,Stephen Davis or Pamela in the past,I’m sure Catherine and Bebe Buell also would not have written about Page exaggeratedly.

by Anonymousreply 7803/19/2012

Always adored her, believed her, enjoyed her books and exploits and even bought that she was sincere, repped a great time in rock history.

But remember this was also before reality TV and billions of people being famous for nothing -- so it wasn't quite so tired then. Wish the movie had been made (although not with Ally Sheedy in the lead).

by Anonymousreply 7903/19/2012

The real wonderful people are the people who make music,not sluty women who just have slept with famous men.

by Anonymousreply 8003/19/2012

Pammy's Facebook. She's quite lovely, actually.

by Anonymousreply 8103/19/2012

Michael's FB page. He's a hoot. Very active on FB and is always posting photos and interesting status updates, etc.

by Anonymousreply 8203/19/2012

No,Pamela is so ugly both inside and outside,as Ross Halfin said. She is a fraud and at the same time a ugly whore. I really don't understand why some people still adore such a fraud.Her claims on Jimmy Page were almost her fantasy!Check out her book and the correct history of Led Zeppelin.You'll surely find so many faults.

by Anonymousreply 8303/19/2012

Eesh, trolldar the sad stan at r83. Listen, just because you like someone's music doesn't mean he is a god-like creature whose honour you must defend from "whores," "sluts," and "love dolls." Settle down.

by Anonymousreply 8403/19/2012

I'm glad someone (R84) said it.

by Anonymousreply 8503/19/2012

Anyway,I hate liars.And doubtleslly Pamela is a liar.

by Anonymousreply 8603/19/2012

Oh shit R84, that's some scary shit trolldar'ing. You're a crazy bitch R83 (etc, etc, etc)

by Anonymousreply 8703/19/2012

Bitch at R83 (etc), if you *do* decide to continue your frightening rants and trolling, please learn to make a space after punctuation, such as commas and periods. Thank you kindly.

by Anonymousreply 8803/19/2012

[R81] Pamela is certainly pretty for her age. But why does she often sell her rubbish stuffs on her Facebook wall? Who wants them?

by Anonymousreply 8903/19/2012

All commentators of this site call Pam an ugly whore though....poor woman...especially it seems men hate her.

by Anonymousreply 9003/19/2012

I wonder who she's fucking now? In the brief interview at at R90 she refers to her "boyfriend Mike Stinson", a pudgy-faced, much younger country singer but I think that ended a long time ago. My guess is that she takes whatever she can get, as long as it plays a musical instrument of some kind.

by Anonymousreply 9103/19/2012

One wonders what they think of the men she unashamedly slept with, R90.

by Anonymousreply 9203/19/2012

These girls were CHILDREN when they slept with these men. Fourteen year old kids being exploited by adult men qualifies them as "whores"? Who the fuck are you awful people?

by Anonymousreply 9303/19/2012

R83 has gotta be Bebe!

by Anonymousreply 9403/19/2012

R93, the "awful people" is one person who only found DL because their idol is on constant Google alert.

by Anonymousreply 9503/19/2012

That photo on Pamela's FB page is from 2005.

by Anonymousreply 9603/19/2012

I don't understand why Robert Plant is still kind to Pamela despite Jimmy Page seems he completely ignores or already forgets her.

by Anonymousreply 9703/19/2012

[R94] Maybe Bebe has a big rivalry with Pamela and she also fabricated many stories on big names of R&R. I can't believe any of her stories(especially on Mick Jagger and Jimmy Page,except for one-nighter with them),but I feel Elvis Costello,Tod Rungdren and Steven Tyler were certainly her boyfriends.

by Anonymousreply 9803/19/2012

I have a question about Jerry Nolan and Johnny Thunders - did they have the AIDS. Nolan died of bacterial meningitis and pneumonia compounded by a stroke and Pamela in her book said Thunders had "leukemia" for a year before his suspicious death.

Both were huge heroin addicts.

by Anonymousreply 9903/19/2012

Jesus Christ, what a nutcase that poster is. I hate to give him the attention but WtF?

I think R71 is right about the "fabricated feelings" Jimmy's a codependent mess. He fucked (and used heroin) with a stripper friend of mine in the late 90s and he got REALLY attached, talked about loving her when he'd known her only 3 days. Who the fuck can blame Pamela for thinking he was serious? He was a rockstar for God's sake.

My jaded friend knew better and sure enough, when he left town, he never called as promised but when he got back to town a year later he called her again with the same sweet nothings and need for her heroin connections. The guy is an idiot.

Some guys (and girls) are just in love with the feeling of being in love, no matter how tenuous the connection.

I love Pamela, she's made a niche for herself and God bless her for it.

by Anonymousreply 10003/19/2012

Led Zep's former security guards revealed Plant's romances! Wow!But this is not a bad article. The guard said,

“He always had an attractive woman with him,” Jack said of Plant. “He loved the women, and the women loved him.” Sometimes, it would fall to Jack to handle the delicate details of Plant’s personal affairs. Plant chose female companions who were intelligent, educated and beautiful, but they seldom became longtime lovers. When the end came, Jack would get the nod.

Was Pamela one of these women?

by Anonymousreply 10103/19/2012

[R100] I don't think it's bad for musicians(or for ordinary men)to fuck whores,groupies or strippers,because it can't be called 'love'. It is just an excrete. For men,sex always does not mean LOVE.

Led Zep guys had wives and children in the 70's and they always toured early 70's and they had many women on the road. However none of them broke their family lives in heyday.(Plant and Page divorced in 1983-1984) I think LZ guys were magnificent as both husbands and fathers.

You might not be able to believe it,but there are several proofs.I have them. They were all gentlemen 'in England' in fact.

by Anonymousreply 10203/19/2012

[R100] 'I love Pamela, she's made a niche for herself and God bless her for it.'

I respect your opinion and I also think Pamela is a good writer. But her many claims on Jimmy Page are obviously fault. Maybe she wasn't with him so much time.I'm sure that 80-90% of Jimmy Page part in her book is a fiction.

by Anonymousreply 10303/19/2012

Nut. FUCKING. Job @ R83, R86, R89, R90, R97, R98, R101, R102, R103 PLUS all the posts you made BEFORE R83.. Are you fucking MENTAL? Seriously.

You are far scarier than Pamela and any of the other groupies you loathe so deeply.

by Anonymousreply 10403/19/2012

"I love Pamela, she's made a niche for herself and God bless her for it."

What "niche" is that? I guess her "niche" is "Queen of the Groupies", as she's sometimes called. But there are plenty of women out there who have fucked rock stars. It's no achievement. She thinks that because she fucked the likes of Jimmy Page and Mick Jagger she must be really something, but considering that hundreds of other women have fucked Page and Jagger her consumption of their semen doesn't really amount to much.

Poor Pamela. Sometimes her groupie stardom backfires. One interviewer asked her "how does it feel being known all over the world as a slut?" Her son got flak from his peers about his mother's activities. Maybe that's why he took off for another country. He lives in Japan, far away from his groupie mommy.

by Anonymousreply 10503/19/2012

How did you know that her son got flack, r105? I think she may have taken a few liberties, but I feel her books were sincere for the most part.

by Anonymousreply 10603/19/2012

How do you know her son got flack, R105? She may have taken a few liberties, but I think her books were sincere for the most part. I think it is a bit sad that her self-worth seemed to only come from the men in her life though.

by Anonymousreply 10703/19/2012

She used to have a major "hardon" for the singer Prince. She wrote in her autobiography about how she thought he was sexy, her dream lover, wanted to sleep with him, and how he had a sexy ass, etc. I liked that about her, as I found him sexy too. It's the only part of that book I found interesting.

by Anonymousreply 10803/19/2012

Sorry for the double post, I thought the first one didn't take because my browser crashed.

by Anonymousreply 10903/19/2012

"How did you know that her son got flack, [R105]? I think she may have taken a few liberties, but I feel her books were sincere for the most part."

She mentioned her son's discomfort with her questionable fame in one of her books. He ended up settling in Japan. She says she misses him. I get the feeling he wants to disconnect himself from her constant promotion of herself (and others) as a groupie.

She did a book called "Let's Spend the Night Together", a book of memories from pathetic old groupies like Connie Hamzy and Lori Maddox. I guess she and Lori kissed and made up (Jimmy dumped her for Lori). Although the groupies would have you believe that their experiences were nothing but fun, fun, fun, their lives seemed more sad than enviable. A bunch of women dredging up tales of sexual encounters decades old.

Superslutty Patti D'Arbanville had an affair with Cat Stevens eons ago. He was a young rock star back then; she said he fucked her against a car hood while she was wearing a schoolgirl's uniform. Cat Steven is now a devout Muslim called Yusef Islam; he's married with five children. I'm sure he'd be mortified to know that D'Arbanville has done "readings" with Des Barres in order to promote her book, reading that describe their long-ago sex trysts. These sluts have no shame.

by Anonymousreply 11003/19/2012

[quote]These sluts have no shame.

Neither did the rock stars.

by Anonymousreply 11103/19/2012

*applauding r111*

by Anonymousreply 11203/19/2012

D'Arbanville has had a successful acting career.

by Anonymousreply 11303/19/2012

And I just wonder how she got her breaks, R113?

by Anonymousreply 11403/19/2012

Patti also got a beautiful song out of the deal, "Lady D'Arbanville". So clearly she was more than just a groupie to Cat Stevens.

Not sure what she got out of Don Johnson though. Except a short-lived friendship with Barbra Streisand maybe. (See the slumber party chapter in one of Pamela's books).

Somehow it all had a hippie innocence to it back then.

by Anonymousreply 11503/19/2012

Good Lord, Pollyana Prisspot! Pamela scored LOADS of hot cock. She even made out with a pre-homicidal Bob Beausoleil! She is an cock-scoring icon, alongside Grace Kelly & Joni Mitchell's vag.

by Anonymousreply 11603/19/2012

Good lord that church ladies calling them "sluts, whores and pigs" is so gross.

Her kid seems to most likely be on the autism spectrum and he's a Japanophile. That's about it. All teens are embarrassed by their parents. And your parents are most likely embarrassed by you. Unless you have their freeze dried corpses in your bedrooms.

by Anonymousreply 11703/19/2012

[R65] What I've heard from someone on Led Zeppelin bbs a few years ago is that,

Pamela was doing a radio interview at the time in Miami promoting "I'm With The Band" and Jimmy was in town with The Firm at the same time. The DJ asked her "So what do you think about Jimmy Page calling you a bimbo?" The DJ played her an interview he had done with Jimmy a few hours earlier. The DJ asked him what he thought of her book and his reply was, "Oh I've met a lot of bimbos out there. You know how girls like to exaggerate".

And in her book, "Take Another Little Piece of My Heart" she writes: " A few months earlier, Jimmy had attempted to snub me at the Atlantic Records reunion bash, where Zeppelin played together for the first time in many years. With John Bonham's son Jason playing drums, JPJ in top form, and Robert wailing with memories of a ripe, rip-roaring time, long, long gone, it had been a magical night. Backstage hanging with Robert, I greeted Jimmy warmly, and when he kept walking, I called his name so loud that everyone turned around. "Jimmy Page!!" He stopped dead in his tracks, slowly turned to face me, and said, "Why Pamela, dear. How are you?" But his eyes weren't kind, and it was clear he didn't care how I was. I had heard it through the grapeslime that Jimmy had been angry about the way he was portrayed in my book. I guess I didn't kiss his skinny ass quite hard enough."

However,except for her claim,there are no photos or no article from this Atlantic Records event(that Pamela with Lz guys were there). Nobody has told about it despite many people must have attended the event and party. I feel it so strange.

She still continues to let people suppose as if she and Jimmy Page had been really intimate back in the day, but I have a large doubt. My friend once asked Pamela what she thought of jimmy having called her a bimbo, and Pamela said that after he invited her to go on tour with him...

Despite her slightest relationship with Jimmy,why does she still stick to him???

by Anonymousreply 11803/20/2012

She is a lunatic who needed attention from her father.

by Anonymousreply 11903/20/2012

I've noticed something. In books and on the web always captions pictures of the GTOs simply "The GTOs." She never individually identifies the rest of them, supposedly her dear friends. Why is that? It's like she doesn't want to give them their due. Or maybe she figures she was the only important one, so why identify the others.

I thought one of the GTOs was beautiful, much more attractive than Pam. I don't know which one was that. A couple of the others were butt-ugly. I don't know which ones they are, either.

by Anonymousreply 12003/20/2012

I have to wonder why this woman was even at the Atlantic Records reunion bash, or why she thought she belonged there, or why she believed Page would be glad to see her or give a shit about her health. "But his eyes weren't kind, and it was clear he didn't care how I was." Get a clue, you dumb bitch. You were nothing more than a cum rag, and just as disposable.

by Anonymousreply 12103/20/2012

Lunatic strikes again at R118

by Anonymousreply 12203/20/2012

You don't need to join here[R122]

by Anonymousreply 12303/20/2012

I wonder if Robert Plant actually permit Pamela to sell her photos with him on her site. She is selling Keith Moon's photos too.

by Anonymousreply 12403/20/2012

The Jimmy Page/Miss Pamela affair can be summed up fairly succinctly: it meant something to her and to him it didn't. She was an absolute nitwit to think that it did. Who did she think she was? She was just another piece of ass to Page, a particularly compliant one.

by Anonymousreply 12503/20/2012

[The Jimmy Page/Miss Pamela affair]

To begin with,I believe there was nothing between her and Jimmy, except for one-nighter. She was not even invited to any of his houses in UK.(none of groupies were invited though..) she just wants to use his name to get attention from innocent people and to sell her book more.She loves $above all!

by Anonymousreply 12603/20/2012

R126, et al., WE DON'T GIVE A FUCK. Why are you ranting on a gay message board about this?

by Anonymousreply 12703/20/2012

I wonder what would happen if that autistic Leeann Rimes is beautiful nut faced off against the Jimmy Page crazy at r126?

by Anonymousreply 12803/20/2012

Does this ex-groupie think of herself pretty or anyone's muse ?

by Anonymousreply 12903/22/2012

She's a lost cause.

by Anonymousreply 13003/23/2012

R129, ya crazy ranting loon, - we STILL don't give a fuck. Why do you keep bumping this thread?

by Anonymousreply 13103/23/2012

[R131] Are you an owner of this thread?

by Anonymousreply 13203/24/2012

She claimed in her book that Don Johnson has a huge cock. Of course she's a star fucker and at the time of the book, he was a huge "Miami Vice" star, so she kissed his ass. Don admits his cock is "regular" i.e. average, so anything out of her mouth is suspect.

by Anonymousreply 13301/05/2013

I love Pam, so what she had a good time. Get over it!

She had a good time and then was able to cash in on the memories. Good for her!

For those of you too young to remember, the seventies were fun, fun, fun! It was pre-aids and kind of, sort of, before herpes really hit. It was coke, pot, quaaludes and booze. There was heroin around so you had to be careful to stay away from that shit but hey, nothing's perfect!

It was fairly non judgmental regarding sex and most people played around with bisexuality. It was a given that you'd sleep with your own gender at some point.

You would go to a party at 8:00 to have a drink, then at 9:00 they'd whip out the coke, then at 11:00 everyone would get luded out and make love! It was safe, no one got hurt, and no one judged you!

If you were to compare the seventies with today you would think we went back in time to a puritan age. We have de-evolved on so many issues its retarded.

How this happened I don't know.

by Anonymousreply 13401/05/2013

Oh, and the other wierd thing is that while there were chubby people, you never saw hugely obese people anywhere, ever.

Thata's because high fructose corn syrup wasn't pushed on us until the eighties.

by Anonymousreply 13501/05/2013

It's not HFCS - I just saw a study. It's calories. People are eating way more calories, walking less.

by Anonymousreply 13601/05/2013

[quote] Sexual episodes that are 50 years old? This is what ranks as interesting gossip?

Isn't that the core of what DL is all about?

by Anonymousreply 13701/05/2013

"If you were to compare the seventies with today you would think we went back in time to a puritan age. We have de-evolved on so many issues its retarded.

How this happened I don't know."

Actually, you sound like the one who's "retarded." I guess your brain got fried by damaged by all that "coke, pot, quaaludes and booze."

by Anonymousreply 13801/05/2013

I just finished Catherine James' book "Dandelion". Interesting read: she had a horrendous childhood.

Her conquests included Mick Jagger, Jackson Browne and of course, the super-slutty Jimmy Page.

She is now Diane Keaton's screen double!

by Anonymousreply 13901/05/2013

[quote]Plant chose female companions who were intelligent, educated and beautiful, but they seldom became longtime lovers. When the end came, Jack would get the nod.

I like Plant, he's one of my faves, has always been a bit classier IMO & more intelligent than the rest. but wtf? Where was he meeting "intellignet educated women" on the road with Led Zep? Was he trolling the local library on non-show days? lol it's hilarious.

by Anonymousreply 14001/06/2013

Jesus, who can be bothered to get so upset about the 40 year old relationships of a bunch of rockers and groupies? They fucked and partied in the good old days. Some became friends and are still friends (des Barres and Plant), some didn't and aren't (des Barres and Page). The End.

In related rock news, it was fun to see Led Zep at the Kennedy Center Honors. It made me feel pretty goddamned ancient but it was still a good time.

by Anonymousreply 14101/06/2013


You had not better to believe Catherine James's claim on Jimmy Page. She's also a big liar as well as Pamela Des Barres. In fact I asked some questions to her,but she could answered nothing correctly. Perhaps she had a short (not serious)relationship with Page as only one of his many groupies in the end of 60's, but she didn't get anything.

by Anonymousreply 14201/11/2013

I personally think Jimmy Page doesn't remember any of former groupies today. They were just temporary fun to him to escape from tour stress. Read his oral autobiography by Brad Tolinski 'Light And Shade/Conversation with Jimmy Page'. You'll understand what he thought of tour lives and groupies. About lifestyle of tour, he said 'You just ate it up and drank it down. Why not?' Groupies are really poor women....

by Anonymousreply 14301/11/2013

Wow. As a female musician who plays guitar and sold a song to Interscope records which was recorded by a popular rock band, I have to say that you haters are fucking clueless. Your dinosaur view of women is very 20th century and I am sure your friends in the nursing home will love hearing all about it, but women who unabashedly FUCK and then turn around and tell the world about it without SHAME make my fucking life and always will. It's exactly why I play guitar and could fucking sing any rock god Plant wannabe under the fucking table. These women more than likely wanted to play themselves, but were always told it was for dudes, so fucking what they wanted was the next best thing and I will never, ever, shame a sista for getting some hard cock, especially if it looks good and knows a fucking blues progression and plays with loud fucking amps. Also, leather pants.

Yeah, the term for what you are doing is "slut shaming," and it seriously was already outdated in Y2K, for reals though. I bet most of you fossils couldn't name one band that put music out in 2012 if you fucking tried.

by Anonymousreply 14401/11/2013

A big eyeroll to whoever keeps insisting that Jimmy Page et. al. were great husbands who just needed to "ease their lust" (wtf) on the road. They didn't have some kind of unquenchable desire that had to be unleashed. They fucked groupies because they could.

Fine for the groupies to have fun. Sad for those who insist on portraying themselves as muses. Having sex with a bunch of men doesn't make you awful, but it doesn't make you some kind of spirit of the era, either. It's just a thing that happened.

by Anonymousreply 14501/12/2013

Let's not forget basically they were fucking children. 13 year olds that got addicted, or pregnant, and became runaways. Think of all the one night stands with 13 year olds left pregnant after one night or the ones that ran away from home to be with the band because they thought one of the guys really loved them and it would be forever. It makes me wonder how many died from addiction, living on the street from being dumped after they turned 14 or 15. Completely irresponsible for adults to do this. They seemed to think it made them manly men, but it proved quite the opposite.

by Anonymousreply 14601/12/2013

R144 sounds very, very retarded.

by Anonymousreply 14711/28/2013

I want to be r144 s friend.

by Anonymousreply 14811/28/2013

R148 wants a retarded bitch shrew as a friend?

by Anonymousreply 14911/29/2013

There was a group of groupies called "Plaster Casters" who would apply a mixture of plaster on the penis of various rock stars. I remember seeing photos and the one for Jimmy Hendrix , well they must have used a truck full of plaster.

by Anonymousreply 15011/29/2013

Whore with a heart of gold and probably STD's.

by Anonymousreply 15111/29/2013
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