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Corey Feldman Says “Call Me By Your Name” Glamorizes Pedophilia

What says the DL?

Call Me By Your Name is getting a lot of Oscar buzz but some are questioning why in a time when sexual misconduct has gripped the nation.
MovieWeb
--Anonymous
replies 99Dec 7, 2017 2:35 PM +00:00

Corey Feldman is worse than Hitler, Kevin Spacey, and James Levine.

--Anonymous
replies 1Dec 7, 2017 2:36 PM +00:00

Duplicate.

--Anonymous
replies 2Dec 7, 2017 2:39 PM +00:00

I always look to Corey Feldman for up-to-the-minute information on glamor.

--He's a glamor goldmine.
replies 3Dec 7, 2017 2:39 PM +00:00

Read the book. I think he missed the point

--Anonymous
replies 4Dec 7, 2017 2:41 PM +00:00

The book is irrelevant. The guy was supposed to be 24 in the book, which put them relatively close in age. Armie Hammer looks like he’s in his late 30’s. So whoever made the movie clearly wasn’t adhering strictly to the book, as often happens in Hollywood.

--Anonymous
replies 5Dec 7, 2017 2:52 PM +00:00

This won't get best picture just because of that.

--Anonymous
replies 6Dec 7, 2017 3:05 PM +00:00

I say Call Me By Your Name is a very meh film. NOT as great as God's Own Country or Moonlight.

--Anonymous
replies 7Dec 7, 2017 3:07 PM +00:00

R5 That's because Guadagnino cast(s) with his dick, sidestepping the audition process. The other producers should've told him to cut the shit and cast someone younger and shorter instead of Hammer. And perhaps someone older and taller than Chalamet as well so the optics would be nicer.

And yes, that'll probably kill its BP chances.

--Anonymous
replies 8Dec 7, 2017 3:08 PM +00:00
NOT as great as God's Own Country or Moonlight.

It simply HAS to be better than Moonlight.

--Anonymous
replies 9Dec 7, 2017 3:10 PM +00:00

LADY BIRD is so good that it makes this film irrelevant in awards races.

--Anonymous
replies 10Dec 7, 2017 3:49 PM +00:00

Pedophilia is defined as sexual interest in children under the age of 13. That doesn't apply here. And, for that matter on another subject, it doesn't apply to Roy Moore, either.

--Anonymous
replies 11Dec 7, 2017 4:54 PM +00:00

Well they need to change the definition cause Roy Moore is a pedophile. How the fuck are you a pedo for being sexually attracted to a 13 year old but not a 14 year old?

--Anonymous
replies 12Dec 7, 2017 6:42 PM +00:00

13, 14-Moore is a piece,of,shit, regarxless. Heard,his spokesperson J ean Porter on AC and was reminded of Moore's vileness re. gays.

--Anonymous
replies 13Dec 7, 2017 6:51 PM +00:00

People who hate on this film obviously do not understand what pedophilia is.

He's an ignorant, damaged, attention seeking fool.

--Anonymous
replies 14Dec 7, 2017 6:54 PM +00:00

Why does anyone pay attention to this burned-out freakazoid?

--Anonymous
replies 15Dec 7, 2017 6:58 PM +00:00

The messenger is irrelevant; the topic revolves around the message.

--Anonymous
replies 16Dec 8, 2017 12:30 PM +00:00
i.ytimg.com
--Anonymous
replies 17Dec 9, 2017 9:50 AM +00:00

Three Golden Globe nominations. So much for Hollywood changing.

--Anonymous
replies 18Dec 11, 2017 8:52 AM +00:00

It's interesting to me that people are not more bothered by this film.

--Anonymous
replies 19Dec 11, 2017 8:55 AM +00:00

Does have a little gay Lolita vibe

--Anonymous
replies 20Dec 11, 2017 8:55 AM +00:00

The whole point of the film IS to bother people. Sheesh.

--Anonymous
replies 21Dec 11, 2017 8:58 AM +00:00

R19 Maybe because they've actually seen it? The Christian Science Monitor critic didn't have a problem with this aspect of the movie so neither should you.

Nothing like uninformed outrage on behalf of someone else. Seems like a national sport over there in America.

--Anonymous
replies 22Dec 11, 2017 8:59 AM +00:00

Why, r19, should anybody be? He's 17 in the movie, for fuck sake. Age of consent anywhere includes a 17-year-old, Penelope Prisspot.

--Anonymous
replies 23Dec 11, 2017 8:59 AM +00:00

Dear Lord in Heaven!

--Concerned Pederasty Team Mom!
replies 24Dec 11, 2017 9:07 AM +00:00

All the pedo accusations that fly around this place really piss me off. I've posted this before. I finally had sex at 17 with two different guys who were in their 30s, but I practically had to beg for them to have sex with me. I'm the one who cruised them. I had already graduated high school at 16, and was working a full-time job during the day, and another part-time job in the evening. I had my own car. My voice had already changed back when I was 14 (I'm a bass). I shaved every day. I was sheltered and naive, but I was a young man, not a kid. Both of the guys I slept with were very protective of me, and I'm grateful that I learned so much from them. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't let myself get involved with someone that young (I'm in my 50s).

--Anonymous
replies 25Dec 11, 2017 9:16 AM +00:00

All of those priss pots who are screaming paedophelia have not said a word about 16 year old Chiara who was nude sunbathing with Oliver.

--Anonymous
replies 26Dec 11, 2017 10:26 AM +00:00

Who? Who?

--Anonymous
replies 27Dec 11, 2017 10:28 AM +00:00

I say the whiney little attention whore bitch is probably correct.

--Anonymous
replies 28Dec 11, 2017 11:25 AM +00:00

It’s not quite as simple as that, but I do think the film has bad optics, yeah. There’s plenty of decent, younger actors who could have been cast instead of Hammer, who looks like the attractive middle age dad type you see at Home Depot on a Sunday morning.

--Anonymous
replies 29Dec 11, 2017 11:50 AM +00:00

A legal line was drawn at the age of 18. Most are sexually active before 18. Obviously not always with someone younger than 18. Me- I would stay away from someone that young because of the legal risk- not worth it. But I certainly understand it. God knows I would have loved to get my horny hands of a 20 something year old hunk when I was 17 and was I ever full of romantic fantasy- I had wait to 19 for some reason. Heck, 200 years ago most women married at 16-18. 17 years old is legal a child, physically more of an adult. The movie is very very good. If your puckered little mouth and tight pearls can't take it- too bad for you. Most Americans are clueless prudes posturing and preening and judging on sex and missing out on life's great mysteries and pleasures. It's great that that father gets it and comforts his beloved son- truly.

--Anonymous
replies 30Dec 11, 2017 12:04 PM +00:00

The father understood and comforts his distressed son at the end- wonderful. Most on this thread are clueless- absolutely clueless probably missing or missed some of life's great experiences due to tight ass judgemental prudery.

--Anonymous
replies 31Dec 11, 2017 12:07 PM +00:00

R25 TY for sharing your history but seriously it has no bearing on the issue this movie raises. I'm sure you will find stories of 12 year olds pursuing a 30 year old for sex and loving the encounter does that make it ok?

--Anonymous
replies 32Dec 11, 2017 12:17 PM +00:00

It does glamorize paedophilia. Moore's a paedo too.

--Captain Intolerance
replies 33Dec 11, 2017 12:22 PM +00:00
Most are sexually active before 18.

What evidence do you have that most kids are sexually active before 18?

--Anonymous
replies 34Dec 11, 2017 12:48 PM +00:00

and please, for the women on-board--sexually active before 18 might just be a boy thing

--i dont know
replies 35Dec 11, 2017 1:04 PM +00:00

First off 16 is the age of consent in Italy. There's a world of difference between Roy More's predatory behavior with under aged 13-16 year old girls, and a novel made into a movie about an informed 17 year old having a willing and consensual affair with a 24 year after they established a close friendship. If you have read the book or seen the film, this does not fit into any pedophilia narrative.

--Anonymous
replies 36Dec 11, 2017 1:21 PM +00:00

They don’t look 17 and 24 to me. Armie Hammer looks like he’s approaching 40 and the kid looks like he could be 15.

--Anonymous
replies 37Dec 11, 2017 1:41 PM +00:00

RE: Oscars

This is how I see it and many of you are ignoring this tiny but important factor.

The age of consent in California is 18. Most of the Academy members live in Southern California, where the age of consent is 18, it will be a tough sell to Academy members given what is taking place in Hollywood.

Should I remind you guys about the film Lolita in the 90s?

--Anonymous
replies 38Dec 11, 2017 1:54 PM +00:00
First off 16 is the age of consent in Italy.

14, actually.

--Anonymous
replies 39Dec 11, 2017 2:02 PM +00:00

In a still like the one at the top of the thread, Chalamet may look like he’s 15 because he’s so skinny. But in the film itself, he doesn’t come across as childish or like he’s too young to be having sex, not does Hammer seem like a predatory old man.

--Anonymous
replies 40Dec 11, 2017 2:23 PM +00:00

Oy.

Well, it does take place in a different country and culture under a different set of legal rules, so...whatever.

--Anonymous
replies 41Dec 11, 2017 2:32 PM +00:00

Just saying, if you see Timothee actually playing the role it’s more clear he’s 21 and the character he’s playing is 17. People are judging based on still pictures.

--Anonymous
replies 42Dec 11, 2017 2:39 PM +00:00
It's not interesting to me that people are bothered by this film.

Fixed, you prissy straight cunt.

--Anonymous
replies 43Dec 11, 2017 3:06 PM +00:00

R32, No, I find that really offensive. 12 is far too young, at least for a 30 year old. Not all 17 year olds are the same. As I indicated, I had graduated high school already, owned my own car, and had two jobs. I was trusted enough by my parents to work late evenings at a restaurant at that age.

--R25
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--Anonymous
replies 45Dec 11, 2017 3:23 PM +00:00
R32 I'm sure you will find stories of 12 year olds pursuing a 30 year old for sex and loving the encounter, does that make it okay?

Um, maybe MADE-UP stories.... ! ! !

--Anonymous
replies 46Dec 11, 2017 3:29 PM +00:00

I wish the Pedo Troll would start using the sexualization spectrum terminology:

Infantophilia 0 to 5ish

Pedophilia 5ish to 10ish

Hebephilia 11ish to 14ish

Ephebophilia 15ish to 19ish

Most of what the Pedo Troll looses bowel control over is ephebophilia. Technically, the Pedo Troll should be called the Ephebo Troll.

--Pollyanna, not a school marm
replies 47Dec 11, 2017 4:21 PM +00:00
Hebephilia 11ish to 14ish

Even when they're Jewish?

--Anonymous
replies 48Dec 11, 2017 4:27 PM +00:00
Most of what the Pedo Troll looses bowel control over is ephebophilia.

What you should "loose" is your inability to spell "lose."

--Anonymous
replies 49Dec 11, 2017 4:28 PM +00:00

I want to root for Corey, and I believe he had horrible things done to him — but he needs to step off his preachy pedestal because he’s far from a saint.

He is 100% still covering for Michael Jackson- for what reasons I don’t know. He wasn’t Jackson’s type but he was around enough that even if he wasn’t abused, he saw things he could look back on as an adult - things that would help support the others stories. He’s so high and mighty and disgusted with the “machine” but he’s one of the cogs.

He wasn’t hardly interested in Corey Haim anymore until there was money to be made and 15 minutes to try to reclaim. I strongly suspect a lot of the abuse he claims was Haim’s was really his and he’s doing one part denial, other part “look at me, I’m such a wonderful person to advocate for my friend.”

If he ever really lays it all out - even the things that reflect poorly on him - I’ll be in his corner. Right now though, he’s not coming across as an advocate for anyone but himself.

--Anonymous
replies 50Dec 11, 2017 5:59 PM +00:00

For the record, in the book, Elio mentions that he has had sex with women, so he is no naif.

--Anonymous
replies 51Dec 12, 2017 5:28 AM +00:00

good post R50-and 100% on the money

--Anonymous
replies 52Dec 12, 2017 5:48 AM +00:00

The book and the movie are two different things, R51. If the book meant a lot to the director then he would’ve selected an actor who actually looks 24 rather than 34.

--Anonymous
replies 53Dec 12, 2017 6:07 AM +00:00

He's right. The movie is absolutely a pedo story. And R50, the fact that he's not a perfect person does not mean he's not right about this. He is. 100 percent.

R53 Exactly right.

--Anonymous
replies 54Dec 12, 2017 6:08 AM +00:00

It's so clear they wanted to use take the original story and twist it into an agenda. Just the difference in height and body muscularity...you have this big, muscular man looming over this slight, frail looking guy to make it look like a man with a boy. That was completely unnecessary. You could easily have cast two actors who were similar types, and looked the ages in the book. Easily.

--Anonymous
replies 55Dec 12, 2017 6:17 AM +00:00
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--Anonymous
replies 56Dec 12, 2017 6:19 AM +00:00

Shia Lebouf (sp) was going to play Oliver.

Think about that.

Would you guys want Shia or Armie? It would have been a different movie with Shia, probably more intense. With Armie's statue, I think they did a good job in setting the tone so it doesn't look like this slight kid was being sexually taken advantage of by someone as tall as Armie. There was that peach scene where I winced a little when Oliver grabbed Elio's arm too tightly so that he could eat the peach, and Elio said, 'You're hurting me'. I think if Shia was in that role, perhaps he wouldn't have over powered him at that moment.

Different actors bring different things to the table, and at the end of the day, I'm glad Armie is Oliver.

It

--Anonymous
replies 57Dec 12, 2017 6:31 AM +00:00

Luca would’ve never cast Shia. That was the previous director who probably wanted someone closer to the character in the book so the relationship would be more youthful. Luca wanted an older, bigger man from the beginning.

--Anonymous
replies 58Dec 12, 2017 6:37 AM +00:00
Would you guys want Shia or Armie?

Armie

--Anonymous
replies 59Dec 12, 2017 6:38 AM +00:00

What a pointless thread this is, since the characters are 17 and 24 and the actual actors are 21 and 31.

As for r54, who sees pedophilia where it doesn't exist, the above are the facts. Sorry there's no one involved here that you can demonize.

--Anonymous
replies 60Dec 12, 2017 9:08 AM +00:00

I'd take Shia. He's sexy, muscular, and brooding and passionate. On the other hand, Armie has $200m

--Anonymous
replies 61Dec 12, 2017 9:21 AM +00:00

Armie is 31. was prob 29 when it filmed.

--Anonymous
replies 62Dec 12, 2017 10:43 AM +00:00
R47 technically, the Pedo Troll should be called the Ephebo Troll.

but isn't that a character is WICKED ??

confusing...

--Anonymous
replies 63Dec 12, 2017 12:55 PM +00:00

I thought it was pederasty, not ephebophilia!

--Anonymous
replies 64Dec 12, 2017 12:56 PM +00:00

Timothée was 19 and Armie was 29 during filming.

--Anonymous
replies 65Dec 12, 2017 1:16 PM +00:00

It's almost impossible to think of someone else in a role once you've see the movie esp since Armie did a good enough job. I can see Shia Lebouf doing well or even someone like Zac Efron, Evan Peters, Darren Criss.

--Anonymous
replies 66Dec 12, 2017 1:21 PM +00:00

Elio and Oliver are both Hebephiles.

w3.chabad.org
--Anonymous
replies 67Dec 12, 2017 1:23 PM +00:00

DL is filled with a bunch of Bryan Singer wannabes.

--Anonymous
replies 68Dec 12, 2017 1:24 PM +00:00

A young gay boy falling in first gay love and being hurt isn't subject matter of interest to most people awarding films.

--Oscar
replies 69Dec 12, 2017 2:43 PM +00:00
Timothée was 19 and Armie was 29 during filming.

They don’t look it.

--Anonymous
replies 70Dec 13, 2017 1:01 PM +00:00

r69 Oscar, get new people.

--Anonymous
replies 71Dec 13, 2017 1:06 PM +00:00
DL is filled with a bunch of Bryan Singer wannabes.

It’s repulsive.

--Anonymous
replies 72Dec 25, 2017 8:25 AM +00:00

Is Feldman a homophobe? Just curious.

--Anonymous
replies 73Dec 25, 2017 8:41 AM +00:00

Merry Christmas, Corey at r72!

--Anonymous
replies 74Dec 25, 2017 8:42 AM +00:00

Call me by your name is my favorite gay film of the year. I love its utter lack of an antagonist and its overflowing sensuality, emotion and depictions of the simple joys of life. It's gonna go down as one of the greatest LGBT films ever made 20-40 years from now.

--Anonymous
replies 75Dec 25, 2017 8:43 AM +00:00

Considering how low the bar is for LGBT films, r75, that's not saying much. I found it vapid and kind of laughable.

--Anonymous
replies 76Dec 25, 2017 8:45 AM +00:00

It still works since Oliver is sexually repressed and has been obviously harboring those feelings for a long time and then meets someone who is at the height of his sexuality. However, that scene with the dad and Elio at the end is kind of creepy, since the father comes across as a weirdo and closet case himself.

--Anonymous
replies 77Dec 25, 2017 9:12 AM +00:00

CMBYN--the tweeest movie of the year.

--Anonymous
replies 78Dec 25, 2017 9:14 AM +00:00

Now I'm wondering if the timing of this film is bad...

--Anonymous
replies 79Dec 25, 2017 9:23 AM +00:00

I'm just amazed Corey Feldman isn't dead.

--Anonymous
replies 80Dec 25, 2017 10:17 AM +00:00
In the wake of the Harvey Weinstein scandal, as scores of Hollywood's A-list talent and power brokers are being exposed for their alleged sexual misconduct, it seems oddly tone deaf for the industry to hail as an "Oscar contender" a movie about a 25-year-old man seducing a 17-old-boy.
Daily Wire
--Anonymous
replies 81Dec 25, 2017 2:01 PM +00:00
I thought it was pederasty, not ephebophilia!

Pederasty is a legal term. Ephebophilia is a clinical one.

Sort of the same way all of us who had any kind of sexual contact that was not a penis inside a vagina were guilty of sodomy (legal term) even if we were performing anal sex, fellatio, cunnilingus, annilingus, or digital penetration (clinical terms).

--Anonymous
replies 82Dec 25, 2017 5:43 PM +00:00

He's right, even if he acts like a douche towards women.

--MANcott the Oscars
replies 83Jan 23, 2018 9:55 AM +00:00

Bump

--Anonymous
replies 84Jan 31, 2018 1:23 PM +00:00

It glamorizes mediocre gay-themed films and unattractive twinky gays (played by straights).

--Anonymous
replies 85Jan 31, 2018 1:33 PM +00:00

And Oscar snubbed three gay movies with age-appropriate relationships.

--Anonymous
replies 86Jan 31, 2018 2:00 PM +00:00

But look what else DIDN'T get snubbed:

“I think that everybody out there should know that there is a generation of trans directors who are coming for their Oscars,” Ford says.
Newsday
--Anonymous
replies 87Jan 31, 2018 2:02 PM +00:00

It’s a better film than the vile God’s Own Country, which was fucking unintelligible.

--Anonymous
replies 88Jan 31, 2018 2:14 PM +00:00

Anyone who calls this film pedophilia, just plain doesn't know what the hell they are talking about. The Elio character was past the age of majority, was sexually active with the opposite sex. If you don't like the film, fine, but to label it pedophilia is a disgrace to those who are actual victims of pedophilia.

--Anonymous
replies 89Jan 31, 2018 2:16 PM +00:00

Like Anthony Rapp and Corey Feldman, R89?

R88, get a hearing aid.

--Anonymous
replies 90Jan 31, 2018 2:21 PM +00:00

What is really needed right now is some better quality thinking, and nuance, about these sexual situations we find troubling.

For instance, CMBYK isn't pedophilic. I'm not even going to call it hebephilic. What's troubling is that the Boomer generation cannot allow itself to age gracefully. It rejects its peers because it can't accept itself as an older person. They only get with much younger people; they demand it.

The consequences of this aren't necessarily pedophilia, but commodified couplings based on narcissism and domination/intimidation games (Boomers cannot tolerate equality and sharing in their relationships - it's their way or nothing). This sorta looks like pedophilia, but it's with age of majority yet still young partners.

What I've seen in the past 15 years or so is the absolute impossibility of finding somebody who's really willing to create a true relationship. Older people are dead-set against it. They want young flesh but treat their partners with contempt. Millennials and Zs have figured out what the Boomers want, and on apps and in personals they flaunt themselves as sex toys for daddy's use. This of course leads to blatant hustling. Most guys under 40 in my region are for rent as masseurs, or they state outright they're looking for "gen."

It has killed intimacy. Corey F. needs to update his thinking a bit. He needs to talk more about the dynamic and why it's toxic, rather than shrieking about pedo bogeymen, while in bizarre clothes and grooming.

--Anonymous
replies 91Jan 31, 2018 2:30 PM +00:00

In the real world do 25 yo men really get together with 17year olds? Would any parent really allow/encourage such a thing? Maybe I live in a different world but nobody that I know would be okay with such a relationship and I live in a fairly liberal part of US

--Anonymous
replies 92Jan 31, 2018 3:06 PM +00:00

But you do live in a different world.. This was not your typical US family in 1983. The mother was European, the father an academic, they summered (and Hanukkah’d) in Italy. They were the product of a different culture, a different world view. The father’s monologue at the end kind of made that kind of clear to me.

--Anonymous
replies 93Jan 31, 2018 3:17 PM +00:00

I have no idea. I didn't hear anything about it.

--M
replies 94Jan 31, 2018 3:21 PM +00:00

its coming from a known asshole liar creep failure....

duh....

--Anonymous
replies 95Jan 31, 2018 7:15 PM +00:00

There is nothing glamorous in the movie or about the movie. Regular middle class people with an old country house. Could of been in south Georgia. Architectural Digest?I think not. No jets fancy cars or big boats. Really a very depressing movie that made me want to slash my wrists. It would have gotten more steam if the boy killed himself in the end. That ending would have probably gotten a nomination. Not sniveling in the fireplace.

--Anonymous
replies 96Jan 31, 2018 7:29 PM +00:00

Thanks for spoiling the ending, R96.

--Anonymous
replies 97Feb 1, 2018 5:55 AM +00:00
Corey F. needs to update his thinking a bit. He needs to talk more about the dynamic and why it's toxic, rather than shrieking about pedo bogeymen, while in bizarre clothes and grooming.

What would Feldman know about toxic gay relationships, enough to speak on them from a first-hand perspective?

And more importantly, as an out & proud gay person....would you really want him to?

--Anonymous
replies 98Feb 1, 2018 6:59 AM +00:00

R92, R93: My parents taught me repeatedly as I was growing up to stay away from older men offering candy. (My dad preferred to get blown by men his own age.)

In most Western cultures, there's a large developmental and cultural gap between 17 and 25 year olds. The 17 year old is still with parents and in high school. A 25 year old is in college, or has completed college and/or is working on a career. They're not that far apart in age, but the worldviews are pretty divergent.

It's not impossible that a 17- and a 25-year old would meet and have an affair, depending on circumstances. The whole "They're European" thing is just a trope to get the audience to suspend disbelief enough to let the story unfold. If I'd had a chance to get with a 25-year old when I was 17, I'm pretty sure I would have.

--Anonymous
replies 99Feb 1, 2018 12:52 PM +00:00