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Soprano Ending.

The ending to The Sopranos all these years still shocks me on a real personal level. It's not because it's was a great show and I wanted it to last forever, but more so because of how easy life ends and what we see soon after...blackness. Nothing more, NADA. It's pretty scary..and that fucking scene is sobering to say the least and quite horrifying.

The Sopranos Ending In HD
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--Anonymous
replies 102Dec 6, 2017 9:21 AM +00:00

We see nothing soon after because there’s no one there to see.

--Anonymous
replies 1Dec 6, 2017 9:42 AM +00:00

One minute your listening to music eating an onion ring..next badda bing!

--Anonymous
replies 2Dec 6, 2017 9:49 AM +00:00

Tony is not assassinated at the end of the series. The show just ends. Chase has confirmed this.

--Anonymous
replies 3Dec 6, 2017 9:54 AM +00:00

Nope. R3

--Anonymous
replies 4Dec 6, 2017 9:56 AM +00:00

It ruined that song for me.

--Anonymous
replies 5Dec 6, 2017 9:59 AM +00:00

Believe it or not there are lots of people out there who haven’t even watched the series yet. Why spoil it for them?

--Anonymous
replies 6Dec 6, 2017 10:02 AM +00:00

No OP you cannot experience "nada" or nothingness. You either die and experience something, or your consciousness ends, meaning you lose the capacity of "experiencing". So, there really is no reason to fear.

--Anonymous
replies 7Dec 6, 2017 10:04 AM +00:00

James Gandolfini was Tony so yea. he's dead no matter.

Although he would not say whether or not Tony Soprano died in the end, the executive producer did admit that tension and death were themes he wanted to express.
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replies 8Dec 6, 2017 10:04 AM +00:00

R6 You're joking right? Believe or not, half the planet knows what happened in the end whether they saw the show or not!

--Anonymous
replies 9Dec 6, 2017 10:06 AM +00:00

I loved the ending—it was a shock, it was controversial, it was perfect!

--Anonymous
replies 10Dec 6, 2017 10:06 AM +00:00

That we're still talking about it years later proves it's a powerful ending.

My take - Tony dies. Maybe not in that diner, maybe so, but the whole point of that scene is to show constantly looking over his shoulder and eventually getting killed was Tony's fate.

What's really horrifying is if Tony is really shot in that final moment, imagine how his family would have reacted. In a way, it's comeuppance for Carmela being complicit and benefiting from Tony's crimes.

--Anonymous
replies 11Dec 6, 2017 10:08 AM +00:00

R7 And you know this information because. -been there done that?

--Anonymous
replies 12Dec 6, 2017 10:09 AM +00:00

R11 Agree. Especially about Carmella she loved the money. I love the ending based on that alone!

--Anonymous
replies 13Dec 6, 2017 10:13 AM +00:00

No r12, simple logic. By logic you cannot experience "nothingness" because if you did feel/experience that means it is not nothing. It is something.

--Anonymous
replies 14Dec 6, 2017 10:16 AM +00:00

R13 Carmella was such a hypocrite. She was always burning candles in church to say thanks to God everytime Tony survived or something turned out good for them. Like God would really be looking out for a cold-blooded sociopathic criminal.

--Anonymous
replies 15Dec 6, 2017 10:22 AM +00:00

the final word

Update 6/10/15: On the eight year anniversary of the Sopranos finale, please enjoy the new Annotated Guide to the Final Scene where every single shot of the final scene is analyzed with quotes from…
The Sopranos: Definitive Explanation of "The END"
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replies 16Dec 6, 2017 10:27 AM +00:00

The whole scene was everyday life but everyone I know said you were on the edge of your seat with anxiety. Amazing.

--Anonymous
replies 17Dec 6, 2017 10:30 AM +00:00

I get quite emotional thinking of how I would watch that show with my little kitty. She passed on before the final episodes aired. The theme song reminds me of her.

--Anonymous
replies 18Dec 6, 2017 10:31 AM +00:00

R18, was she a rescue cat?

--Anonymous
replies 19Dec 6, 2017 10:34 AM +00:00

Yes, R19. Yes she was. You could never meet a bigger sweetheart.

--Anonymous
replies 20Dec 6, 2017 10:36 AM +00:00

Thanks, R18/R20.

--R19
replies 21Dec 6, 2017 10:37 AM +00:00

I always took it that Tony died but people argued with me. Chase left it to viewers to end it themselves.

--Anonymous
replies 22Dec 6, 2017 10:40 AM +00:00

He got shot in the back of the head. end of story- hence blackness- music abruptly stopped. It's not rocket science people.

--Anonymous
replies 23Dec 6, 2017 10:44 AM +00:00

In my opinion, all three at the table died and they deserved to die.

--Anonymous
replies 24Dec 6, 2017 10:50 AM +00:00

Master Of Sopranos has a good write-up on the finale.

The Sopranos: Definitive Explanation of “The END”
“If you look at the final episode really carefully, it’s all there.”* These are David Chase’s words regarding the finale of the Sopranos. He is right, it is “all there”. This is the definitive explanation as to why Tony died in Holsten’s in the final scene of The Sopranos. The following is based on a thorough analysis of the final season of the show and will clear up one of the most misunderstood endings in film or television history. Chase took almost two years to construct the final season of the show after the fifth season ended in June of 2004. The ending was orchestrated years in advance and is the culmination of an artist in complete control of his vision. Part 1 will demonstrate how Chase directed, edited and scored the final scene of the Sopranos to lead to the interpretation that Tony was shot in the head in Holsten’s and how this ties into the “never hear it happen” concept that Chase hammered into the viewer before the show’s final scene. This explanation will be supported by words from David Chase himself, including a very revealing, largely unknown, radio interview of Chase in April of 2008. Part I will also discuss (and debunk) the other theories about the end including the “Tony always looking over his shoulder” interpretation. Part II will concentrate on what Tony’s death means and how his death was thematically constructed throughout the final season. Part III will focus on the use of symbolism in Holsten’s. Part IV will focus on The Godfather influence on the final season and Tony’s death. Part V will focus on how the final episode and final scene are linked to America’s war on terrorism. Part VI will concentrate on the “fun stuff” created by Chase and his creative team to foreshadow Tony’s death. Part VII will discuss the possible inspiration of two films on the ending of The Sopranos. Part VIII will speculate as to who may have killed Tony. Part IX will discuss the influence of Stanley Kubrick’s 2001:A Space Odyssey on the “point of view” pattern in the final scene. Some of these topics will overlap but the ultimate conclusion is the same: Tony’s death is the only ending that makes sense.
*Note: Chase’s original quote to the NJ Star Ledger the day after the finale aired is “Anybody who wants to watch it, it’s all there”. Chase’s subsequent quote regarding the finale “If you look at the final episode really carefully, it’s all there” was published in the UK newspaper The Times on September 9, 2007 (from an interview of Chase by Stephen Armstrong)as the final episodes were set to air in the UK. The modified quote strongly suggests Tony’s death since there is essentially no reason to look at the final scene “really carefully” if Tony lived as he is clearly alive the last time we see him.

It's a long read but worth it.

Update 6/10/15: On the eight year anniversary of the Sopranos finale, please enjoy the new Annotated Guide to the Final Scene where every single shot of the final scene is analyzed with quotes from…
The Sopranos: Definitive Explanation of "The END"
--Anonymous
replies 25Dec 6, 2017 10:50 AM +00:00

The Chase Lounge is another good resource. Here's the forum page dedicated to the last episode:

Episode 6.21: Made in America
thechaselounge.net
--Anonymous
replies 26Dec 6, 2017 10:53 AM +00:00

Sopranos Autopsy is another great page, they haven't gotten to season 6 yet though.

Sopranos Autopsy - Examining TV's Greatest Series
Examining TV's Greatest Series
Sopranos Autopsy
--Anonymous
replies 27Dec 6, 2017 10:56 AM +00:00

And 'The Sopranos' subreddit has some great conversations about the series finale

Thoughts on the destruction of AJ's car in the Finale
(Why does the text submit automatically capitalize the first letter of each word in the subject? It's super annoying -_- ) This scene:...
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--Anonymous
replies 28Dec 6, 2017 10:57 AM +00:00

Thanks R27 that looks worth a peek

--Anonymous
replies 29Dec 6, 2017 10:58 AM +00:00
How would Melfi react to Tony's death?
17 points and 24 comments so far on reddit
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--Anonymous
replies 30Dec 6, 2017 11:00 AM +00:00

Yea we know got shot in the back of the head-guy with the Members Only jacket clipped him. Thats why everything goes completely black. One to the head and boom!. Brain dead.

--Anonymous
replies 31Dec 6, 2017 11:00 AM +00:00
The Sopranos - Complete Rewatch: Season 6 - Episode 21 "Made In America"
["Made In America"](http://i.imgur.com/e9PxyvN.gifv) Previous Episode [Season 6 - Episode 20 - "The Blue...
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--Anonymous
replies 32Dec 6, 2017 11:04 AM +00:00

The evening The Sopranos finale aired, I was confused and upset. But in the years since I've come to believe the ending is nothing short of brilliant, and the greatest finale of any series ever. The longer time goes on, the more is revealed to us. It is a gift that keeps on giving.

By the way, Tony is dead as a doornail. That black represents Tony's inner life. It's gone. It no longer exists.

Update 6/10/15: On the eight year anniversary of the Sopranos finale, please enjoy the new Annotated Guide to the Final Scene where every single shot of the final scene is analyzed with quotes from…
The Sopranos: Definitive Explanation of "The END"
--Anonymous
replies 33Dec 6, 2017 11:04 AM +00:00
[Discussion] Who killed Tony Soprano?
So after reading [this](https://masterofsopranos.wordpress.com/the-sopranos-definitive-explanation-of-the-end/) I am positive that they killed...
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--Anonymous
replies 34Dec 6, 2017 11:04 AM +00:00

It seems obvious that Tony, Junior and Carmella recall guilty and needed to be dead. THANK GOD! I hated them.

--Anonymous
replies 35Dec 6, 2017 11:05 AM +00:00

"All That You Dream" by Little Feat is playing in the beginning of the linked clip. Much better band than that cheesy Journey.

--Anonymous
replies 36Dec 6, 2017 11:07 AM +00:00

Good analysis of the finale from Lobster Lagoon

The Sopranos begins with a troubled mobster entering psychoanalytic psychotherapy, and his character arc plays out in that context; Tony Soprano’s seemingly irrational behavior is only comprehensible by considering the conversations he has with Dr. Melfi. The show’s fascination with the unconscious makes psychoanalysis an ideal tool for understanding the series, which traces Tony’s spiritual demise as he wrestles with, and fails to resolve, his Oedipus complex. The first part of this essay will examine the relationship he has with his mother and father, the evidence for his complex, and explore how his parents’ demands set the stage for his spiritual struggle. This section will also include a complete analysis of The Test Dream’s dream sequence. The second part will discuss his near death experience at the beginning of 6A, and it will use Kennedy and Heidi (6.18) to show that Tony fulfills the oedipal myth by murdering his nephew, who stands in symbolically for his father, and sleeping with Christopher’s Vegas girlfriend, herself standing in for both his nephew’s wife, Kelly, and Tony’s mother, Livia. This is also the effective completion of the mission given to him in The Test Dream, and for thematic purposes Tony is dead, his spiritual arc concluded in failure. The final section will view Made in America in light of Tony being already dead when the episode begins, highlighting themes of fate, sin, and salvation while providing specific analyses of The Cat and Holsten’s.
A total understanding of Made in America, finale of The Sopranos, in the show’s sacred and spiritual context.
Lobster Lagoon
--R25, R27, R28, R30, R32, R34
replies 37Dec 6, 2017 11:08 AM +00:00

Six Feet Under versus The Sopranos scale: a proposed binary for characterizing TV show endings

Interesting read.

Ending a TV show is equal parts philosophy, craft, and luck.
Vox
--Anonymous
replies 38Dec 6, 2017 11:11 AM +00:00

R3 No he didn't. Chase has refused to say one way or the other. Though he has dropped hints that Tony is dead.

--Anonymous
replies 39Dec 6, 2017 11:11 AM +00:00

They said all the colors in the dinner point to death. All their actions point to the fact that they are at their death, at their funereal. As I said, I was glad.

--Anonymous
replies 40Dec 6, 2017 11:12 AM +00:00

Here's the AV Club write-up

Maybe he dies at the end of “Made In America,” when the Members Only jacket guy puts a bullet in the back of his head (something we don’t see, because we cut to black from his point-of-view). Maybe he dies in 40 years, surrounded by family and friends and little Parisi grandchildren. (At the thought of that, maybe he would have preferred the bullet.) Maybe he dies right after leaving Holstens when he gets hit by a bus. Maybe he dies because he gets cancer. Maybe the cancer is eating him alive right now. Maybe he dies in a fight with Carmela, when she finally gets fed up and takes a shot at him. Maybe he decays slowly in a hospital somewhere, like Uncle Junior, the only solace he has a moment to look out the window at the sun and the birds, a moment to wonder who he is or who he was. Tony Soprano dies. So do you. So do I.

continued at the link

“Made In America” (season 6, episode 21; originally aired 6/10/2007)
TV Club
--Anonymous
replies 41Dec 6, 2017 11:15 AM +00:00

R34 It was Patsy Parisi had it done in retaliation for Tony having killed his brother Phil many seasons prior. This was all with the approval of Butch DeConcini, who resented Tony for having Phil Leotardo hit in front of his wife and grandchildren. You NEVER do that in front of family. All with the assistance and knowledge of Pauly Walnuts.

There is no other reason to have had a scene earlier in the episode with the Parisis having Tony and Carmella over. Meadow was marrying their son, but there was no reason thematically to show that scene, and the tension between Patsy and Tony.

--Anonymous
replies 42Dec 6, 2017 11:19 AM +00:00
Can someone please convince me that Tony did NOT die in the end
The final scene still gives me goosebumps - the music, and the whole build up to the bit where the scene cuts to black for about 5 seconds before the credits appear.
The most powerful argument to suggest Tony gets whacked is that the 5 seconds of blackness is Tony's POV of when Meadow enters the restaurant - we see and hear nothing because this is Tony's POV and he just got shot in the head from the 3 o clock position by the Members Only guy who went to the toilets. Remember, we see everyone who enters the restaurany from Tony's POV before this.
So can anyone give some ideas that suggest that Tony didnt get whacked in the final scene? All i can think of is that the final scene is another dream sequence (just like the many others we see in the show that we thought happened but was actually all in Tony's head) where Tony is imagining what dinner would be like with his family after he visited Uncle Junior.
The final scene still gives me goosebumps - the music, and the whole build up to the bit where the scene cuts to black for about 5 seconds before...
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--R41, R37, etc.
replies 43Dec 6, 2017 11:19 AM +00:00

For r4 and r39:

The show's creator explains the controversial finale
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--Anonymous
replies 44Dec 6, 2017 11:24 AM +00:00

Of course, there are so many death-porn Sopranos fans (read above to see the obsessive death cultists who write and write and write AND WRITE about this as if there’s some truth to divine from the ending) that Chase’s publicist later had to backpedal because of the uproar that the Vox article engendered. But we all know what Chase meant.

The fact is, he just pulls the plug on the show. Go to black, story over.

--Anonymous
replies 45Dec 6, 2017 11:28 AM +00:00

R45 That article was written in 2014-since then he's pretty much has made it more or less that YES Tony is dead and was always headed in that direction.

--Anonymous
replies 46Dec 6, 2017 11:33 AM +00:00

By the finale, Tony had no more mob friends and he knew he could no longer count on any of his family, so his life was already finished when he walked into the diner.

--Anonymous
replies 47Dec 6, 2017 11:51 AM +00:00

I think the biggest piece of evidence from the series that Tony is dead is here.

David Chase told Richard Belzer on his podcast that the scene where Gerry Torcado is whacked relates directly to the final scene of the series.

Watch it.

We see Silvio talking. Suddenly, we're in slow motion. It's gone to slow motion to show us something. Silvio is spattered with blood while he's talking. The splatter of the blood is what interrupts him. THEN after the splatter, very pointedly, we HEAR the gunshot. Later, Bobby tells Tony "I bet you never hear it when it happens'

Gerry Torcado gets a bullet in his brain, and doesn't hear the gunshot. Later, Tony (and us) are whacked in that exact same way. Gunshot, darkness, and a sound that everyone present at Holsten's hears. Except Tony, and us.

S06E14, "Stage 5". Usual Sopranos standard shooting scene, but the trick with the muted sound is great.
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replies 48Dec 6, 2017 11:57 AM +00:00

To be honest, I thought the ending was pretty lame. I think the above discussions, while interesting, are projecting a lot of depth that isn't there. Much like the series itself, there are great moments but it was sloppily written and a bit half baked.

--Anonymous
replies 49Dec 6, 2017 11:59 AM +00:00

It’s pretty clear Tony is killed by the fidgety guy in the gray jacket. Otherwise, why show him so much?

--Anonymous
replies 50Dec 6, 2017 12:03 PM +00:00

R46:

img.buzzfeed.com
--Anonymous
replies 51Dec 6, 2017 12:06 PM +00:00

David Chase is full of shit.

Seldom have I been less happy to be (belatedly) proven right.
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--Anonymous
replies 52Dec 6, 2017 12:15 PM +00:00

R50, the ending crystallizes Tony’s life for us before Chase pulls the plug on the storytelling.

Tony is with his family. These people are fucked up, highly dysfunctional, but they’re a family and they love each other.

Tony’s life is unsure and full of danger. That’s what they shadowy guy in the members only jacket represents. Not his death, but the riskiness of a mobster’s existence. Who is this guy? Just some schmo? An assassin? Who knows. What we do know is, it’s not a problem most of us have to worry about.

Chase does the exact opposite of tying everything up tightly in a bow. He just cuts the tape. Story over. Because in real lives, there are no neat endings.

I’m so tired of the insistence that Tony dies. Not because I don’t want him to be alive OR dead, but because it’s so gross that the same people who leeringly egged Tony in from one crime to the next now want to see him punished for what they do approvingly followed for so many years.

So many of the theories are full of shit. The most peddled one is, Bobby and Tony have that conversation about not hearing the one that gets you, so when the story cuts like that, it means Tony was shot. But if that’s supoosely true, why do we see Bobby whacked, and the aftermath? It’s Bobby’s theory, after all.

The other theory is he gets whacked because of the war with New York but that’s total bullshit too. Tony’s basically the only guy left in Jersey and New York needs him there to earn for them.

--Anonymous
replies 53Dec 6, 2017 12:19 PM +00:00
The ending to The Sopranos all these years still shocks me on a real personal level.

It was wrong... shockingly wrong!

--Norma Shearer, agreeing
replies 54Dec 6, 2017 12:24 PM +00:00

I think it was on my second re-watch of the entire series that I became fascinated by the recurring motif of wind / breeze as a metaphor for the spiritual realm, the characters' mortality, and the urgency of them attending to their guilt and any hope any of them have of redemption. Often it's wind rustling through trees, but of course in the final scenes it's there in the bell chiming as the door opens and closes. When Tony is shot someone leaves a Post It with an Ojibwa saying on his noticeboard. He accuses Janice of leaving it there but she denies it. It's never revealed.Some think it's the two evangelical Christians who visit Tony and pray for him. '"Sometimes I go about in pity for myself, and all the while, a great wind carries me across the sky."

--Anonymous
replies 55Dec 6, 2017 12:26 PM +00:00

The blackness signified death; Tony Soprano's death. I don't know how anybody could NOT have gotten that. The same effect was used in "United 93", the film about the doomed 9/11 flight of United Airlines Flight 93. I thought the ending of that film was even more devastating than the one on the Sopranos, because that movie was based on real incident. The horror really happened.

--Anonymous
replies 56Dec 6, 2017 12:31 PM +00:00
There is no other reason to have had a scene earlier in the episode with the Parisis having Tony and Carmella over.

Hello? Donna Pescow plays Patsy's wife. THAT'S a reason.

--Anonymous
replies 57Dec 6, 2017 12:31 PM +00:00

Chase does the exact opposite of tying everything up tightly in a bow. He just cuts the tape. Story over. Because in real lives, there are no neat endings.

R53-What you said above is exactly why he 's dead

--Anonymous
replies 58Dec 6, 2017 12:33 PM +00:00

r58 he's a coward as a writer. He couldn't kill off the hero--one who stood in for a lot of middle aged white men of a certain time and place, like Chase himself.

--Anonymous
replies 59Dec 6, 2017 12:36 PM +00:00
Tony’s basically the only guy left in Jersey and New York needs him there to earn for them.

Paulie is left. He is the great survivor. He always kept in with Little Carmine and Johnny Sac so New York would let him run Jersye after the hits on Tony, Bobby and Silvio. Pauly resented Tony's treatment of him over the years, it builds up, and he hated Carmela too, we see that when Pauly and Sal try to get away with paying her when Tony is in the hospital, Pauly calls her a fuckin princess or something.

--Anonymous
replies 60Dec 6, 2017 12:37 PM +00:00

Well, I think he was blown away but I wonder if the guy took out Carmella and Jr and just walked past Meadow on the way out.

Well since Gandolfini has passed, there will be no movie or follow up anyway.

--Anonymous
replies 61Dec 6, 2017 12:38 PM +00:00
This was all with the approval of Butch DeConcini, who resented Tony for having Phil Leotardo hit in front of his wife and grandchildren. You NEVER do that in front of family.

But Tony is whacked in front of his family. But then, as Philly constantly complains, no one follows the rules of this thing anymore. Guys are getting made without the gun on the table, it's fucked up.

--Anonymous
replies 62Dec 6, 2017 12:42 PM +00:00

R59 you know I think Tony is dead as well, but you may have a point here. Its like Chase can not just out right admit that he killed off the character. Somehow by not being clear he keeps the character alive somehow.

--Anonymous
replies 63Dec 6, 2017 12:48 PM +00:00

Good grief, Tony, his son and Carmella are all dead because they ask for it. Meadow was probably left alive with whatever life she has left.

--Anonymous
replies 64Dec 6, 2017 12:57 PM +00:00

It's all a big nothing.

Found on Google from memes.com
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--Livia Soprano
replies 65Dec 6, 2017 1:30 PM +00:00

Somehow, R63.

--Anonymous
replies 66Dec 6, 2017 1:39 PM +00:00
Donna Pescow plays Patsy's wife.

Seriously?

--Julianne Moore
replies 67Dec 6, 2017 1:39 PM +00:00

R66 Or other.

--Anonymous
replies 68Dec 6, 2017 1:42 PM +00:00

The final episode was a major cop-out. Making the ending all artsy-fartsy when the show and characters were so black and white.

--Anonymous
replies 69Dec 6, 2017 3:37 PM +00:00
and that fucking scene is sobering to say the least and quite horrifying.

If ya ain't a Guido, OP, you need to go back to special school and let them know you're still pissing your pants in public.

Do people call you Thicky?

--Anonymous
replies 70Dec 6, 2017 3:42 PM +00:00

I think the fans of the Sopranos fervently hoped that some day, some day, there would be a Sopranos movie. But the death of James Gandolfini ended that dream. With his death, Tony Soprano died, once and for all.

--Anonymous
replies 71Dec 6, 2017 3:43 PM +00:00

Did you even watch the show r69? There was nothing black and white about the characters.

--Anonymous
replies 72Dec 6, 2017 3:46 PM +00:00

It is the greatest ending of the greatest TV drama series of all time.

Seriously.

I can't imagine a movie would have improved the legacy, let alone the story, in any way, were it done in the last 10 years.

Plus, they can always do it with everybody else and plot it around Tony's funeral, if they really wanted to do it.

Chase has hinted about a prequel, and I must admit I would love a series set in the 50s/60s all about the old days.

But, that's just me.

--Guest Star Stefani Germanotta
replies 73Dec 6, 2017 3:52 PM +00:00

A movie about the Sopranos without Tony Soprano? That 's never going the happen. He WAS that show. And a "prequel" that I assume would have actors playing Tony and Carmela as young and in love? That sounds like SUCH a bad idea.

--Anonymous
replies 74Dec 6, 2017 3:58 PM +00:00

I'm glad Tony wasn't shown being killed. I was sort of dreading the finale because I thought that might happen. I'm fine with the way it ended.

--Anonymous
replies 75Dec 6, 2017 4:05 PM +00:00

Every single episode R72

--Anonymous
replies 76Dec 6, 2017 4:06 PM +00:00

I'm with you r73, I'd love a prequel.

--Anonymous
replies 77Dec 6, 2017 4:12 PM +00:00

There were so many layers r76. Everything the characters wore, said or cared about had a deeper meaning including the colours chosen, the food they ate, the animals they cared for to the print on their clothing. If all you saw was a mob boss kill people week in week out, then the real story was missed

--Anonymous
replies 78Dec 6, 2017 4:20 PM +00:00

R69 I agree. It was a straight forward show with a few pretensions here and there. The ending was the biggest pretension of all. Most of the people who watched that show didn't watch it for a vague and wishy washy ending.

--Anonymous
replies 79Dec 6, 2017 4:24 PM +00:00

Thanks, R77 . I so want it to happen someday.

And, no, R74 , Tony and Carmela weren't even born (or just toddlers), in the early 50s.

The flashback scenes with Tony's father were strong enough (decapitation included) and so skillfully rendered to buttress support of a prequel.

But, just me.

--Stef
replies 80Dec 6, 2017 4:26 PM +00:00

OP, was the period of time before you were conceived "quite horrifying"?

--Anonymous
replies 81Dec 6, 2017 4:30 PM +00:00

I have a question about "rosebud", but I don't want to spoil the film for anyone!!!

--Anonymous
replies 82Dec 6, 2017 4:42 PM +00:00

So Tony and and Carmela would be toddlers in the 50s? Well, who would be in a Soprano "prequel", then? Their parents? And would little Tony and Carm be in the movie as their little biddy toddler selves? A prequel sounds like it would an act of sheer desperation to start a Sopranos movie franchise. I don't see it happening, although it's evident from this thread that Sopranos fans are so fanatical that they'd be willing to watch anything that has anything to do with the Sopranos, no matter how ridiculous or ill-conceived it might be.

--Anonymous
replies 83Dec 6, 2017 4:54 PM +00:00

It ended like that so they could make a big screen movie, which never materialized for reasons that are obvious. There was no deep thought or multiple meanings behind it.

Great show, but it hasn't been on TV in years so it's largely forgotten today.

--Anonymous
replies 84Dec 6, 2017 5:00 PM +00:00

r84 please provide link to your claim. Who is they? Who wanted to make a big screen movie?

--Anonymous
replies 85Dec 6, 2017 5:06 PM +00:00

I'm not fucking google.

The people who created a show wanted a make a big screen movie to tie things up. It's not rocket science. It's the same thing HBO did with Sex and the City. Milk a cash cow.

--Anonymous
replies 86Dec 6, 2017 5:09 PM +00:00

R62 yes, Tony is whacked in front of his family IN RETALIATION for them having done it to Phil in front of HIS family.

Butch gave the ok for Tony to have Phil whacked. But he never imagined that it would be done directly in front of his wife and grandchildren. (Or that his head would get run over and crushed)

--Anonymous
replies 87Dec 7, 2017 10:03 AM +00:00

I get it, R87!!

--R62
replies 88Dec 7, 2017 10:44 AM +00:00

GUYS, WEREN'T THEY IN A CROWDED RESTAURANT?= UNLIKELY ANYONE TAKEN OUT IN BROAD PUBLIC=NOBODY DIED, STORY JUST ENDED. I MEAN, COME ON, MOST MOB MOVIES FEATURE A SECLUDED EXECUTION. COULD HAPPEN, BUT SEEMS UNLIKE HOW THE MOB DOES BUSINESS.

--Anonymous
replies 89Dec 7, 2017 11:26 AM +00:00

The best description I read about this scene said that it used a technique common in film - you see a character then see what that character sees. Only in the Soprano scene, the viewer is set up to expect it. So, the bell on the door rings, you see what Tony sees (the person coming through the door), then you see Tony. It happens exactly that way many times. Then the man that was sitting at the counter comes out of the restroom and is behind Tony just as Meadow opens the door The bell rings, Then you see what Tony sees - nothing. He's dead. Works for me.

--Anonymous
replies 90Dec 7, 2017 11:26 AM +00:00
I wonder if the guy took out Carmella and Jr and just walked past Meadow on the way out.

The Mafia almost NEVER kills family members too when they put a hit out on anyone--if they did, they would automatically make their own family members vulnerable to counter-hits, and there would be all-out war, and then the Feds would step in much more strongly than they do.

--Anonymous
replies 91Dec 7, 2017 11:32 AM +00:00

IS r92 PUSSYLIPS, SCREAMING WITH ANGRY POWER?

--no one else uses all-caps
replies 92Dec 7, 2017 11:33 AM +00:00

GUYS, TONY IS STILL ALIVE!!! I SAW HIM LAST THURSDAY = EATING IN A HACKENSACK DINER

--R89
replies 93Dec 7, 2017 11:43 AM +00:00

Considering that r92 is actually you, R92, then I think you can answer your own question.

--Anonymous
replies 94Dec 7, 2017 11:52 AM +00:00

R91 see r87

--Anonymous
replies 95Dec 7, 2017 12:17 PM +00:00

Adriana's last scene was heartbreaking and horrifying but hell she deserved it.

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--Anonymous
replies 96Dec 7, 2017 3:54 PM +00:00

I don't think she deserved it r96. In a sea of shitty evil people she was one of the less shitty ones. She didn't deserve to die crawling through the forest like an animal.

--Anonymous
replies 97Dec 7, 2017 3:57 PM +00:00

TOMY didnt die. They're still working on a Soprano movie just like the Sex in the City movie.

--Anonymous
replies 98Dec 7, 2017 3:59 PM +00:00

Well considering James Gandolfini is actually dead r98, how do propose they make this movie? The public won't want another actor playing his part. Some of the other mobsters are dead too.

--Anonymous
replies 99Dec 7, 2017 4:03 PM +00:00

If the rest of the show was as annoying as the ending, glad I missed it.

--Anonymous
replies 100Dec 7, 2017 4:07 PM +00:00

R100 Actually it was more annoying! It was a pretentious mess at the end. Otherwise, it was a soap opera about a mafia family and not a good one at that.

--Anonymous
replies 101Dec 8, 2017 12:08 PM +00:00
If the rest of the show was as annoying as the ending, glad I missed it.

The show isn't even as annoying as you.

--Anonymous
replies 102Dec 8, 2017 12:47 PM +00:00