Even Pence is like, "The fuck is wrong with him?"
Even Pence is like, "The fuck is wrong with him?"
Bless you OP for coining the term "Full Liza"
A new entry for the DL Lexicon
That was my dream (hope-hope-hope-hope) as well R2.
YES! I heard that as well and I was like WTF! Will he (please) keel over live on tv right now!!??
Why the hell is he displaying those small hands so prominently?
R1, hahahaha omfg
I heard that speech while I was driving and I turned it up, thinking to myself, "His "S's" are as thick as Liza Minnelli's. What's wrong with him?"
I've been on this site too long.
His sniffing was back, too. Bigly.
Looking for a clip of the last 30 seconds of this speech today to share with family republican family nuts. Anyone have a link
His piggy eyes are getting smaller and smaller. They're like piss slits in already-yellow snow.
It looks and sounds like he is sucking on a lozenge.
And all that sniffing stuff
Sloppy asshole. The deplorables president.
"Full Liza" is now in the Official DataLounge Lexicon & Usage Guide. My St. Helen Lawson and the Spirit of Luise Rainer bless the OP with whatever gets him off best.
I see the term being used in stroke diagnoses and prognoses, DUI field tests, hearing/speech tests for your children and, of course, the rancid criminal now occupying the White House. I wish the slurring here was an indication of a crippling stroke that would leave him sitting silent in a wheelchair shitting himself for 20 years, a la Joe Kennedy.
Here is Liza this year doing a 92% Liza hershelfshes.
Tie his hands behind his back and he won't be able to say a word. Handcuffs, please!
Surprised nobody mentioned my theory yet: he’s got dentures.
A few DL psychics predicted he would have a stroke.
My favorite comment on the Twitter thread:
Dentures, dementia, and uppers.
Yea, I also thought it's his teefs.
Surprised he didn't spit it out onto the mic.
After the Ted Cruz tonsil stone incident, that would have been GOLD.
That fat bitch is on so many drugs to keep himself focused and they're not working
Yes I think Charles and Diana will be getting back together again as well.
I think it is Adderall or a similar upper. Reminds me of someone I knew that had a problem with it in their 50's, the slurring looks to be dry mouth side effect. People get older and don't have the energy they need and pop pills to keep up, then they can't sleep at all and they make no sense because their brains need rest to function.
Could be dental work but I'm team stroke.
He was perfectly fine an hour earlier in the Cabinet room being his usual ahole self, rapid delivery, nothing sticking or clicking. Weird.
Two many xanax. They try to keep his temper tantrums under control.
Lou Dobbs had the same problems after he first showed up with a mouth full of chiclets when he was on CNN. Took several dental adjustments and just plain old time before he got back to normal.
Seems more like he's having a stroke or maybe that's just wishful thinking. Then again who the fuck wants President Pence. Pence Ryan and any possible GOP replacement would be just as bad, maybe worse since they're not insane they would probably be taken more seriously and get more done.
Paul Ryan gave him a half dose of his anti dementia meds, told him his popularity is through the roof and pushed him out towards the podium.
Some parts of that compilation seem like they could be due to dry mouth, perhaps as a side effect of medication.
He sounded like my grandpa when his dentures slipped.
Flu, and drunk on meds. And hubris.
Could be bad dentures. He is just an insect and he needs to be stepped on.
Isn't there a famous movie quote about that? "Never, ever go full Liza."
Have the mainstream media picked up this story yet? It’s alarming. Yet more evidence that he’s unfit for office.
I swear to god the more disgusting and unhinged he gets, the more he appeals to his base. He'll look like a living corpse in 2020 and still they'll vote for him.
R39 British Media have.
I suspect greasy wads of unchewed Big Mac stuck in his fat ugly maw.
Imagine if this was Hillary. The rightwing would be in a tizzy.
He also went full Jazz Hands throughout. Normally, he does his compulsive alternation between dainty "OK" and Loser "L" hand gestures, but today it was full open palm on both hands, as if he were pushing everyone away. This is an unconscious defensive posture which says to me he is incredibly insecure in this.
Time for a full medical disclosure.
Wha' the hell ish thish wordsh?
Then again who the fuck wants President Pence.
Me. I’ll take Pence over Trump any day of the week.
That annoying sniffing! Is he snorting his speed and ADHD meds!??
He's too vain and wealthy for dentures. More than likely he has dental implants. The first thing I thought of when I watched it was stroke.
Those aren't new, r46. He had those through the entire campaign, at least.
Please give us the hope of a stroke for at least a little while. Not liquor or teeth or anything like that. It's a stroke or an oncoming stroke. I'll believe that for a short while please if no one minds.
The ones in R46 aren’t new, but they could’ve got damaged on a bone in a Big Mac patty and the ones in his mouth during that speech are the replacements.
I tried to listen to him but I cut him off after 15 seconds. Fucking windbag con artist.
r54 - What is that.....a toenail?
Have been praying for him to stroke out in front of the cameras since election.
Polident lost its grip.
R57 And still, he would be shouting from the stretcher: "Healthiest president EVER!"
Two words: tardive dyskinesia. Daddy's been doubling up on the Zyprexa since Flynn flipped.
Won't be dentures. He's too vain. Veneers or implants. Reminds me of talking to my grandad - he had a few TIAs
He needs to relax and enjoy something he really loves.
I wish he'd keep this freaking tiny-boy hands in pockets.
His makeup looked WEIRD! All orange face but then no makeup around his eyes which looked startling white.
Probably because he was compulsively rubbing his eyes, r64 -- another side-effect of antipsychotic medications. Watch him go off his meds around Dec 23 and do a pre-emptive nuclear strike on DPRK timed for 9am Central Standard Time in the US on Christmas morning.
At the end does he say, "God bless the United Shush"?
Our dear president is a teetotaler, R53, you hush!
His weight is fine. His diet is fine. He gets regular exercise on his golf cart every weekend. His BP is fine as you can see in his healthy skin color. He manages stress. This is the healthiest President ever.
Another signature for comparison, here's a recent one
Obviously something is up today, he's messed up
He is stroking out.
I bet people are putting anti-psychotics in his food so they don't have to deal with him. I know I would, nothing worse than an obnoxious blowhard who never shuts up and never sleeps.
R18, I like your dentures theory.
People with his kind of money can afford to get top tier oral surgery for implants. However, he may not be able to have that option due to bone density deminishing due to prescription meds.
Was he having a panic attack or a stroke ? Either way he couldn't sign that fucking paper to save his life. Shocking. I hope the news gets all over it.
Please let it be a stroke, please let it be a stroke. Please great grey owl in the sky let it be a massive stroke that ends him before he hits the ground.
That photo at #71 he looks like hell. Chalky, exhausted.
He probably grinds his teeth in his sleep.
Apart from the bizarre signature, Trump's slurred speech, if you look at the video again, as he settles down to sit on his chair, he is dehydrated, parched, mouth is bone dry. He looks momentarily disoriented as he turns and moves from the lecturn to the table 2 steps away.
He's barely holding it together. Then the over- wrought attempt at a "normal" signature.
This man is collapsing under stress.
R79 I bet the Deutsche Bank subpoena really got to him.
They must have snipers shooting darts of tranquilizers in his ass before he makes any speech that could wreck the world if he goes off prompter. Maybe they got a bit heavy handed today! God blesh.
I completely agree that he is snapping due to stress.
Look at his face. He’s not sleeping. Add dementia (which I am 99% sure he has-what stage I do not know), poor diet, no exercise and all of the pills he pops, and you get Trump’s behavior today.
Trump knows he has something to REALLY worry about.
Who the fuck is he thanking after he signs the order?
I was molested.
I just rewatched. The slurring isn’t due to poor fitting dentures. He might have tardive dyskinesia as a side effect of certain medication, as someone mentioned above.
I’ve seen tardive dyskinesia before, and it sounds just like this when people who are experiencing it speak. It also makes them feel extremely uncomfortable because it can cause unwanted involuntary movements with the face, jaw, neck, shoulders, etc.
It’s dental work. He can’t control his tongue and his upper lip.
Pence does look genuinely curious. I was going to say concerned, but Pence is heartless.
Hear me out on this. Hydrocodone and oxycodone can enlarge the tongue and impair speech. Abusers of opioids often have "thick tongued", awkward speech. Add that to his erratic sometimes manic and impulsive behavior (another side effect) and i wonder if we have a President taking one too many Vicodin. Just a theory.
His dentures have joined the resistance! (I stole that from twitter).
R51, doesn't matter that he's rich, this is a self-described billionaire who wears badly fitting off the rack suits. He thinks it's classy to buy off the rack.
R88, Trump no longer has his own teeth. I’m pretty sure he’s wearing dentures. He no longer needs dental work other that re-fitting the appliances in his mouth.
This is primarily due to meds. Maybe re-fitting the dentures too, and for sure stress.
Refitting dentures doesn’t affect your signature, however, tardive dyskinesia can and in this case, it looks like it did.
Trump has full veneers. There's a NYT piece from the 80s or 90s about the backgrounds of some of the high-end dentists in NYC that mentions it. I found the article after a Reddit post from a dentist analyzing pictures of the 2016 candidates' teeth and was curious to learn more. The dentist looked at Trump's and said "absolutely all crowns." I asked him about the article and he said it is also possible they are veneers.
I don't know if this would rule out dentures though.
It is bizarre because watch him speak to reporters as the Cabinet mtg concluded at noon. Skip through it and he is perfectly fine. What cd have happened to him in the next hour before the embassy announcement other than medication.
"Trump knows he has something to REALLY worry about."
Whatever financial info the Republicans found after he won (because he certainly wasn't vetted beforehand) must have stunned them enough to hide it from the public, pathetically stating that American people were no longer interested (yeah, right).
He will now try to fire Mueller, and the shit will hit the fan.
I love all of you for the gleeful anticipation that he might be on the verge of a stroke. If he does have one soon it’s because we collectively willed it to happen.
Pence looks like a bobble-head whenever he stands next to or near Trump - he just shakes his head in agreement to everything Trump says. He's gross.
R95 The whole world has been "Secreting" his death for a year now and still nothing. So I doubt our wishes here will do much good; the hateful heart lasts the longest.
Wow Trump seems more calm and lucid there (R93) than I’ve seen him in a long time. And he actually spoke in complete sentences. What exactly is the timing of this versus the speech—did it come before or after?
Again, tardive dyskinesia due to Zyprexa. Look at the way he’s holding his hands in, and on top of each other. That’s being done to control involuntary movements, sudden jerking, or shaking from the meds.
Last night I posted in another thread that a close friend of mine is disabled due to being severely bipolar. One of the meds he’s on is Zyprexa, and he slurs just like Trump. The more he has to talk or the more stress he is under, the worse the slurring becomes.
It’s actually really sad to watch it happen to my friend. Anti-psychotics are extremely powerful drugs and they seem to really fuck people up.
Please take a moment to read and cross reference the Wikipedia entry at r99. Any and all of these psychiatric conditions can and do describe Donald Trump to a tee.
He puts the tard in tardive dyskinesia.
R98 his remarks at the Cabinet mtg were at noon, and I don't have the precise time for the embassy announcement but it was around 1-1:30. The change is striking.
Whatever orders he receives from Vladimir, is what he does. Can't this be undersood?
The preshident of the Unoddedshates may have a shpeaking problem
The AV Club trolling him yet again.
What’s interesting is that the Zyprexa is prescribed for Dementia, and recently, so is flashing red light therapy.
Trump presents as a person with beginning to moderate stages of dementia, Trump’s father died due to complications caused by Dementia, Trump presents as a person who is exhibiting Tardive Dyskinesia, and we all saw the footage of the red light flashing from the residential area of the White House.
It all adds up pretty easily, all things considered.
Don't say tardive, it wounds.
He seems more animated than usual.
OK Barron, at r107. Sorry about that.
The good news is that he’ll probably croak before you go to college. Stay away from your brothers and nutty sisters, and you’ll be alright, kid.
Chris Hayes just brought this up, it's turned into such a big deal that the White House had to address it. He has dry mouth
R105 So they're treating him for dementia in the WH? With a treatment developed by the same scientists he despises so much? Gods, I hate him!
I'm not saying this may be a direct contributing factor but certainly as r81 echoed, the Deutsch Bank investigation may be rattling his cage. He also knows his Jerusalem policy may have inflamed billions of Muslims - in this regard, his "buddy" Theresa May narrowly averted being assassinated by Muslims.
I think the whole cumulative effect of these never-ending crises, the piling up of investigations, getting to the Oval Office inner sanctum must be unbearable.
There's a well-respected journalist, Craig Oliver in Canada who was interviewed about a week ago, and he stated that Trump is finished - may take a year, maybe two but he has met his own "Watergate."
I was truly hoping he would break into “and the world goes round “
R113, that made me guffaw quite loudly.
R111, red light therapy and taking meds are two things that you do at home, so yeah, he’s being treated at the WH, being that he lives and works there.
Is there something going on with his pupils in the video at R93 or is it just a result of low-definition video?
Why would someone wealthy get dentures in this day and age? With proper dental hygiene and access to the best dental care, there's no reason why he should lose his teeth. Is this germ phobe's dental hygiene so poor that all those sugary snacks and carb-laden meals that he did not brush or floss across the years? Or maybe he couldn't find someone to service his oral hygiene needs like he could find a fluffer, er pants steamer?
I'm a dentist and those are crowns. The only dental cause would be if he was numb from dental work THAT morning. He didn't sound so bad at the beginning of the speech, though.
". . . we all saw the footage of the red light flashing from the residential area of the White House." Can someone link this. I must have missed it.
Cocain and rotting, loose dental implants that didn't take. Gotti had that. Infected dental implants. You've got to keep your gums pristine for them to become tight.
So Liza. United States. Ha! It's pronounced Is-rail. Not real.
R119, please refer to the link at R30. Footage at link.
R51 I came to say the same thing. Nobody with any money get dentures anymore. I vote Xanax. My friend is fond of them and when shes tired she gets slurry.
I thought a dentist opined that it was slurring from ill fitting dentures?
Denturegate: Dentist says Trump may have destroyed his teeth with too many veneers.
President Donald Trump’s speech seemed thick and slurry during his speech about Jerusalem on Wednesday, causing some to question whether his dentures were slipping. The slippage appeared to indicate a sliding lower plate, which led to speculation as to whether the president wears dentures instead the more permanent — and convenient — dental implants. A Long Island dentist named Dr. Terry Shapiro — who has not treated Trump — wrote about the president’s unnaturally white-looking teeth on his personal blog.
I would normally disagree with the dentures theory as well, due to Trump’s financial ability to access implants. But some people have advance stages of bone loss in their jaws due to osteoporosis. It can still be attempted, but there’s no guarantee that the implants will take.
He's medicated to the gills for speeches and public appearances. Has been for weeks. The jazz hands...was told to stop using the white power/ok hands.
"Russia" sounds the same pronounced correctly or slurred.
I think we're getting somewhere.
The only thing missing from his slur was a racial minority attack.
I don’t give a crap about any president wearing implants. A number of us here will eventually need them. I am, however, very concerned about having someone with Dementia and/or other psychiatric conditions, running the country.
No man or woman should be allowed to run for, or take office without a full medical exam and psychiatric evaluation.
I don’t think that those results require that they are made public. The POTUS has the right to privacy just like we do. However, Dementia should be a deal breaker.
This is about discrimination due to a disability. I have no issue with a physically disabled president, but dementia is a bridge too far.
It is a huge national security issue.
Exactly R126. Just because you have money doesn’t mean you’re guaranteed to get implants. Some people don’t have the gum structure for it. Some can get implants in certain places but need partial dentures elsewhere. It’s not black and white.
Is drug addiction a bridge too far? The late Carrie Fisher (RIP) said he loomed coked-to-the-gills during the debates. Red, bloated face...hmmm.
I think he's popping adderalls - causes dry mouth and excessive crankiness/ rage bursts. Dementia is definitely in play here too.
I am a longtime nurse, and the first thing I thought was slipping dentures. You can kind of see him suck them back toward the end.
The implications and consequences of tRump's behavior (dementia, psychosis, instability and or opiod addiction) on our national and international security are terrifying. It's time to invoke the 25th Amendment.
If the WH says it was dry mouth, why didn't they just give him a bottle of water? Is it because he did such a bizarre job the last time he had to drink water on camera?
The picture at R104's link to the AV Club is from yesterday when he was asked questions about supporting Roy Moore. He said "Thank you" but so over exaggerated it I was really struck by it and I thought he was making faces at the press corp. The photographer captured the moment he was saying the "TH" part of Thank you. There's something neurological that's just not right going on.
Here is Liza for comparison. Trump sounded exactly like her, didn't he? Her problem is booze and dope, so we can't rule out that he may be doing the same.
"Pick up the besh, Backilyn."
R136 there are also products specifically for dry mouth given to patients in hospital, people taking medication causing this, also for opera singers.
His stress level keeps increasing because he knows he's toast. A trapped rat is a dangerous thing, watch out.
He knocked over some of Melania's white Christmas trees last night in a rage.
'Dry mouth', okay, thanks, that settles it. I'm sure now that it wasn't TARDIVE DYSKINESIA
They took away his twitter account and feed him a healthy meal.
I took adderall for awhile (for ADD) but had to stop because the dry mouth side effect was horrible. It also killed my appetite and with the dry mouth eating became a loathsome chore. I became underweight. Trump probably isn’t taking adderall but what’s scary is how it’s so obvious that he’s coming completely undone and our theories to explain his dysfunction include everything from coke to antipsychotics to stroking out to opiods to dementia etc. The man is an addled raving lunatic and even the majority of House Dems refuse to vote for impeachment yet. Meanwhile Trump seems to be doing everything he can to compromise our national security and potentially cause a nuclear apocalypse.
Yet Clinton got impeached for getting a bj from a consenting adult. This is so fucked up.
He is on some sort of medication cocktail. It could be a number of combinations but I hope he is on uppers because with his age and physical condition, it will hopefully kill him.
I'm waiting for him to shout "HELLO GEORGIA!"
Please let thish be the beginning of his demishe.
#DentureDonald now trending on Twitter.
Omg how embarrassing - Major denture slippage.
I hate this man, but I don’t wish him death, even though I routinely joke about it. I don’t wish anyone death. That’s just not who I am. Yet this man does need to go.
The calamity for us all is who takes over if and when he is gone prior to another primary. We’re stuck with a group of sociopaths, religious or otherwise.
Can someone explain the Hi Georgia reference to me?
Drain the SHWAMP!
Be interesting to see how he is at his Moore campaign even on Friday. The last few times I have seen him speak, he has seemed off. Plus, there is going to be the added element of how he will be when he goes off unscripted. They have stopped his twitter this week -- all the tweets have been canned announcements -- and he must be ready to burst to spew his normal bile.
Sorry to say it was probably a slip of his dentures. Wish it really had been a stroke or dementia. Not unusual for a man (?) of his age to have at least a partial. What's odd is that these are the kind of dentures you can put in and out. There are implants or more permanent dentures. Must be spending all his money on booze, women and movies.
If you've heard a stroke victim speak, this is all too familiar. Given Donnie's lifestyle, poor diet and obesity, my money's on a TIA (transient ischemic attack) or mini-stroke.
At least future President Pence is nearby to catch him when he falls.
Mini stroke is what I thought when I saw that, not because denture issues are impossible, but because I’ve seen someone have a stroke right in front of my eyes, and I wondered if it could be that.
I also have had a couple of relatives with numerous mini strokes. They’re not grossly, obviously impaired, but their memory is shot and they struggle to find words. Trump is a walking advertisement for how not to maintain one’s health. He could keel over any day. He’s the poster child for what a potential mini stroke victim looks like.
R90 Do you know how to read a complete sentence? Vanity and wealth go hand and hand in my comment. He probably doesn't think he is fat. He can have implants and try to fool himself that they are his own teeth, but with dentures the reality stares at him every night he has to take them out. His perception is not grounded in reality. I have an implant and over time you really forget you have one.
Dad is lying on the ground at the Oval Office. He's moving in very weird manners and is speaking incomprehensible stuff.
Should I go and get him some help?
R164 Is he speaking in foreign languages? If so, start recording immediately! Might offer some insight into how to proceed with the Apocalypse. TIA!
R70, thx for the laugh, this gif made my day.
Dry mouth can be terrible and make a person really miserable. My aunt has it but discovered a supplement that made it go away, her mouth feels normal again. I won't share it here lest it works its way to Dementia Donald, I'd rather see him suffer.
It's Chrishtmash TIME in the SHitty. . . . .. . .
R155, Liza was on HSN several years ago all hopped up on something, and when a fan named Doris called in excited to talk to her, Liza said, "Hi, Georgia!"
87, tardive dyskinesia is uncontrolled muscle movements that typically manifests as severe facial ticks or the tongue "rolling". His slurring was not the result of tardive dyskinesia. Tardive dyskinesia is also very hard to hide.
That should be r87 and not 87 in r170.
Nunighted Skates of America! Ha! He's an inarticulate turd that won't flush.
They have stopped his twitter this week -- all the tweets have been canned announcements -- and he must be ready to burst to spew his normal bile.
Interesting. Must have something to do with his confession that he knew Flynn lied. They've taken his phone away. Maybe they are keeping him drugged to control him.
so they released a statement saying (1) it was just a dry throat and (2) he's going to have a doctor's examination. if it was just a dry throat why would he get a full physical?
also, WHO managed to take his phone away from him for this long??? why hasn't he fired whoever it was? the man has no impulse control.
I don't know how strokes work but the way things are going I don't think he'd step down from office even if it was proven that he had a stroke and has dementia. the Dems have no fucking backbone and the GOP are all completely insane.
it's like Dr. Strangelove + Manchurian Candidate x's a thousand.
speaking of, why is the US media freaking out about Trump's threat to pull the US out of the Olympics? it's clearly something he'd do in solidarity with Russia.
Watch the movie Dave.
It was the bone spersh acting up!
He puts the tard in tardive dyskinesia.
He doesn’t show signs of that.
The one and only good thing about the Trump Presidency is the pleasure of watching him spiral downward. I only wish his meltdown would go by a little faster.
He doesn't wear dentures. Dentists have weighed in based on close ups of his teeth.
I covered his speech for my affiliate, and I thought he sounded perfectly fine!
bitch has alzheimers. it's gonna be a problem, but nobody will do anything about it.
I like Presidents that don't glitch.
R180 = Longe