Can he just do this cuz he feels like it? What about Palastine?
This will not end well
Can he just do this cuz he feels like it? What about Palastine?
This will not end well
This is the third thread on this topic but perhaps it's best we use it as the other ones turned really nasty.
So when's the presser that will make Benghazi look like child's play and start another intifada?
Denounced by the pope.
Trump says trump says trumpsaystrumpsays
So which side are we on?
He’s such a moron. Someone please buy this man a china shop. He just wants to break things. It’s bothersome to me, and deadly, no doubt, to others.
You are dropped in the middle of the desert. You don't know where you are. You could be in Gaza, Egypt,Libya, Syria, etc. Hamas, ISIS, Al Qaeda could pop out at any minute. You see a sign that says Israel. You will go RUNNING there.
The gays side with Israel.
Such a deal maker!* Once again, he gives something for nothing.
This is such a win for him on all levels. He's keeping his election promise, the Jews and the Arabs (he hates both equally) will take care of each other with American weapons, which should provide a nice boon to the US weapons industry and paint a rosier economic picture. Without him lifting a finger.
Of course, everyone else but him and that Bib pig loses in this scenario.
“Presidents have been trying to get a deal on Jerusalem for 40 years and gotten nowhere.”*
Maybe because Trump took a bad deal?
The Jewish gays side with Israel.
Fixed yer typo, hon.
Vlad told him to do this to de-stabilize the middle east; just like he has de-stabilized america.
R8, that doesn't answer the question at all. Of course we're talking about Israel. Why name all those other countries?
I may well side with Israel on many things, but this boneheaded decision is not one of them.
Don't be surprised if this move has a ripple effect ....another 9/11 may be coming our way.
He just made the US a lot less safe.
WHAT A DEAL!
Try reading a book, OP...
Congress passed a resolution doing this 22ya and every president has kicked the can down the road in six month intervals ever since.
Dump is just enforcing the law a couple decades later.
This is probably a bad idea, but it isn’t only happening because Dump just feels like it...
R19, Congress passes the law because they know the President will block it. Kicking the can is a good idea often.
We have a lunatic as President. He stirs up trouble and gets nothing in return. What a deal maker!
Thousands of protesters rallying outside of US diplomatic mission in Istanbul in response to @realDonaldTrump Jerusalem announcement . If a single person dies we know who's to blame!
World-wide de-stabilization - exactly what Russia and Trump want.
forget N Korea, this is how you start a new global war! Expect something horrible to happen on american soil very soon, folks.
Democratic Senators - here is your chance to make a stand that means more than asking Franken to step down.
He's just following the orders of the evangelical Christian agenda. They want a war with Islam to kickstart the Apocalypse. Also, if jihadists hit inside the US with a major attack, it will give Trump cause to declare a national emergency and enact martial law.
I find it so laughable that he knows even 1% about Israel
Fuck Paleswine, fuck Islam, fuck Trump, and fuck all non-Jewish religious superstitions.
R19, 22 years ago was before 9/11. What happened to "9/11 changed everything!"
22 years ago was also before the Arab Spring, the complete destabilization of Iraq and Syria, and BENGHAZI!!1111!.
Millions of US tax dollars is going to private girfters... excuse me, businesses to build a new embassy there. The Pentagon will demand a huge boost in military funding to defend it, which will be outsourced to private mercenaries... excuse me, contractors. It will likely spurn all kinds of violent and terrorist activity, both in Jerusalem and other US embassies.
And for what, exactly?
The Oslo Accord was the biggest mistake we ever made. Arafat was a war criminal who should have been tried, convicted and executed.
David Icke and how the new world order comes to be was right all along. He basically said that the US will be made the bad guy so people will beg for a solution and the New World Order will be presented as that solution not realizing that the US was deliberately pushed to become the bad guy by the guys who present the New World Order solution. Typical snake oil salesman practice: Create the problem / demand and then offer the solution that suits your purpose.
Now that the Orange Moron is setting up most of the Middle East and Islamic world to North Korea and Iran as future conflict zones and flashpoints, does Susan Sarandon still think that it was better not to vote for "the warmongering" Hillary Clinton?
I cannot wait to see Sarandon joining in peace protests!
You wanted a woman, there was also Jill Stein.
You still wanted a str8 white guy that badly, there was Gary Johnson, and don't tell me that "what's Aleppo" gaffe was worse than any of the shit Trump has pulled.
Hillary would have been the better solution, no doubt. Of course she's a puppet for the same guys who control the Republican Party / Trump, but at least she would have made the whole transition to the New World Order run more smoothly with fewer fatalities.
Very funny, R32. You can do better than that. No, we did not want a vagina. We wanted a good, experienced politician. Not amateurs like Stein and Johnson.
What are you going to be saying about Harris come 2020? That we wanted a black vagina?
Well, r24, why is Chuck Schumer the #1 cheerleader for this?
There will be lots of unrest in the area.
The Middle East and Iran need no help to be set up as conflict zones.
Neither does the Korean Peninsula...
fuck all non-Jewish religious superstitions.
Why leave Jews out of that statement? ALL religions are a bunch of superstitious bullshit. Our modern world is being held hostage by the ignorance of people who lived in the desert over 5000 years ago and had no idea how the world actually works - no science, astronomy, understanding of infectious disease - whose beliefs are still treated as gospel. It's so infuriatingly ridiculous.
Lol at the idea Jews alone are somehow above reproach, as someone who grew up Muslim in a largely Jewish community. Everyone is equally terrible, all religions are trash when used to justify hatred and bigotry or as instruments of oppression. Anyone who says otherwise is fucking ignorant, ill traveled, little read, brainwashed or just a racist piece of shit
What about Palastine?
What about Palpatine, OP?
R38 Exactly. I can't believe they're squabbling over some ugly rocky terrain and calling it holy. Get a grip! This planet and the continents on it are not eternal, so calling it the "eternal capital of the Jewish people" does make me laugh. Bitch, the dinosaurs were crapping all over your holy land for hundreds of millions of years and there will be nothing left of this land a hundred million years hence.
This whole conflict is the pinnacle of primate stupidity.
What if the point of the Abrahamic faiths is to share Jerusalem with the love that the religions stand for (I am told)?
He is trying to create as much distraction and strife as he can to distract from all of the things that are threatening to crash down on him. He adores conflict and you can be sure that whoever convinced him to do this will help him out of his current problems.
R38: Blaming the Jews for gentile distortions of Judaic text is like blaming The Beatles for *NSYNC.
We found R44’s glamour shot!
Can we stop pretending this issue will ever be resolved? Neither side will ever give in
R47, who died and made you part of the Psychic Friends Network?
I love ya, r8.
Lock him up!
From the Canadian satirical site The Beaverton:
How about Trump recognizes Jerusalem as capital of ISIS? DL cunts will rejoice
Mustn't upset our Muslim friends eh DL?
Could this spark a new wave of attacks on American soil?
Who knows, r54? It certainly doesn't help any.
R54, I don't think this will spark massive violence.
The Palestinian Arabs have used the "terrorism" card for a long time. Arabs were killing Jews during the British Mandate and threatened to kill more, Britain capitulated to the threats and limited Jewish immigration from Europe to the land of Israel. Those thousands of Jews were then condemned to the gas chambers instead (Israeli Jews have never forgiven Britain and the Arabs for this).
And that essentially has been how we have approached the Palestinians. We don't do what they don't like because they threaten terrorism. Don't let Jews move to the land or we will kill people. Don't let Jews pray on their holiest site, the Temple Mount, because we will kill people. Don't put metal detectors in front of a holy site after a terror attack in order to save Muslim lives, because we will kill people. Don't recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital because we will kill people.
Enough. Enough. So long as we continue to teach the Palestinians that we will be intimated by threats of terrorism, they will continue to believe murder is a genuine card they can play. And they have played it longer than ISIS, Al Quedia, or Hezbollah. No more. This is sending a message we will not put up with their threats anymore.
So long as we continue to teach Muslims that the West will be intimated by threats of terrorism, they will continue to believe murder is a genuine card they can play.
R57, you said it, not me :)
Fuck off R56, you can't play the fucking Holocaust card anymore as you turn the Gaza Strip into Hell on a regular basis killing the Palestinians imprisoned there as if you were shooting fish in a barrel.
As you lied the US/UK into Iraq Part II. As you're trying to lie us into Iran.
It is not your land. It is the Palestinians land.'
In India, Israelis are hated. There are special guesthouse for Israelis because no one wants to be around them. Same in Nepal. Same in Thailand. Same in so many other countries with no traditional hatred of Jews.
Why? Why are Israelis hated EVERYWHERE?
Um R59, India actually is one of the countries that loves Israel the most.
58% of Indians surveyed said that they support Israel.
Try again boo boo :)
Arabs were killing Jews during the British Mandate and threatened to kill more, Britain capitulated to the threats and limited Jewish immigration from Europe to the land of Israel.
R56, the Brits were instrumental in creating this clusterfuck, but not in the way you describe - Britain was the one that pushed Jewish immigration into Palestinian territory in the first place. The UK government was lobbied by rich Zionist bankers (the Rothschilds) to create a state for them. And the Brits agreed (as they love rich political donors) - controversially, even before Palestinian territory was under their full control. The UK Foreign Secretary issued the infamous Balfour Declaration and put it into action. British airplanes dropped leaflets on Jewish settlements everywhere - propaganda for Jews to move and re-settle in their "new homeland".
Skim the Wiki article about the Balfour Declaration - it's both scary and fascinating.
What a mess.
I think it's safe to say that the Orange Fuck did not make this decision based on his knowledge of the history, or the politics of the region, or because this is an issue that he gave much thought in his entire life. He put as much thought into this as picking the size of his McDonald's fries.
From Wiki: The Balfour Declaration was a public statement issued by the British government during World War I announcing support for the establishment of a "national home for the Jewish people" in Palestine, then an Ottoman region with a minority Jewish population. It read:
"His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object [...]"
The declaration was contained in a letter dated 2 November 1917 from the United Kingdom's Foreign Secretary Arthur Balfour to Lord Rothschild, a leader of the British Jewish community, for transmission to the Zionist Federation of Great Britain and Ireland.
Can he just do this cuz he feels like it? What about Palestine?
He campaigned promising the move, as did Hillary, Obama,Bush, and Bill. It's good one of them finally kept the promise.
First Prophecy Against Gog. 1 The word of the LORD came to me: 2 Son of man, turn your face against Gog of the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him. 3 Say: Thus says the Lord GOD: See! I am coming against you, Gog, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. 4 I will turn you around and put hooks in your jaws to lead you out with all your army, horses and riders, all well armed, a great company, all of them with bucklers and shields, carrying swords: 5 Persia, Cush, and Put with them, all with shields and helmets; 6 Gomer and all its troops, Beth-togarmah from the recesses of Zaphon and all its troops—many nations will accompany you. 7 Prepare and get ready, you and the company mobilized for you, but in my service. 8 After many days you will be called to battle; in the last years you will invade a land that has survived the sword—a people gathered from many nations back to the long-deserted mountains of Israel, brought forth from the nations to dwell securely. 9 You shall come up like a sudden storm, covering the land like a cloud, you and all your troops and the many nations with you.
10 Thus says the Lord GOD: On that day thoughts shall cross your mind, and you shall devise an evil plan. 11 You will say, “I will invade a land of open villages and attack a peaceful people who live in security—all of them living without city walls, bars, or gates”— 12 in order to plunder and pillage, turning your hand against resettled ruins, against a people gathered from the nations, a people whose concern is cattle and goods, dwelling at the center* of the earth. 13 Sheba and Dedan, the merchants of Tarshish and all its “young lions” shall ask you: “Have you come here to plunder? Have you summoned your army for pillage, to carry off silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to seize much plunder?”
Second Prophecy Against Gog.
14 Therefore, prophesy, son of man, and say to Gog: Thus says the Lord GOD: On that day, when my people Israel dwell securely, will you not take action, 15 leaving your base in the recesses of Zaphon, you and many nations with you, all mounted on horses, a great company, a mighty army? 16 You shall rise up over my people Israel like a cloud covering the land. In those last days, I will let you invade my land so that the nations acknowledge me, when in their sight I show my holiness through you, Gog.
17 Thus says the Lord GOD: About you I spoke in earlier times through my servants, the prophets of Israel, who prophesied at that time that I would let you invade them. 18 But on that day, the day Gog invades the land of Israel—oracle of the Lord GOD—my fury will flare up in my anger, 19 and in my jealousy, with fiery wrath, I swear on that day there will be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. 20 Before me will tremble the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, the beasts of the field and everything that crawls on the ground, and everyone on the face of the earth. Mountains will be overturned, terraces will collapse, and every wall will fall to the ground. 21 Against him I will summon every terror—oracle of the Lord GOD; every man’s sword will be raised against his brother. 22 I will execute judgment on him: disease and bloodshed; flooding rain and hailstones, fire and brimstone, I will rain down on him, on his troops and on the many nations with him. 23 And so I will show my greatness and holiness and make myself known in the sight of many nations. Then they shall know that I am the LORD.
Third Prophecy Against Gog.
1 You, son of man, prophesy against Gog, saying: Thus says the Lord GOD: Here I am, Gog, coming at you, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. 2 I will turn you around, even though I urged you on and brought you up from the recesses of Zaphon and let you attack the mountains of Israel. 3 Then I will strike the bow from your left hand and make the arrows drop from your right. 4 Upon the mountains of Israel you shall fall, you and all your troops and the peoples with you. I will give you as food to birds of prey of every kind and to wild beasts to be eaten. 5 In the open field you shall fall, for I have spoken—oracle of the Lord GOD.
6 I will send fire against Magog and against those who live securely on the seacoast, and they will know that I am the LORD. 7 I will reveal my holy name among my people Israel, and I will never again allow my holy name to be defiled. Then the nations shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One of Israel. 8 Yes, it is coming! It shall happen—oracle of the Lord GOD. This is the day I decreed.
9 Everyone living in the cities of Israel shall go out and set fire to the weapons, buckler and shield, bows and arrows, clubs and spears; for seven years they shall make fires with them. 10 They will not need to bring in wood from the fields or cut down trees in the forests, for they will make fires with the weapons, plundering those who plundered them, pillaging those who pillaged them—oracle of the Lord GOD.
11 On that day I will give Gog a place for his tomb in Israel, the Valley of Abarim, east of the sea. It will block the way of travelers. There Gog shall be buried with all his horde; it shall be called “Valley of Hamon-Gog.” 12 For seven months the house of Israel shall bury them in order to cleanse the land. 13 All the people of the land shall take part in the burials, making a name for themselves on the day I am glorified—oracle of the Lord GOD. 14 Men shall be permanently assigned to pass through the land, burying those who lie unburied in order to cleanse the land. For seven months they shall keep searching. 15 When these pass through the land and see a human bone, they must set up a marker beside it, until the gravediggers bury it in the Valley of Hamon-Gog. 16 Also the name of the city is Hamonah. Thus the land will be cleansed.
17 As for you, son of man, thus says the Lord GOD: Say to birds of every kind and to every wild beast: “Assemble! Come from all sides for the sacrifice I am making for you, a great slaughter on the mountains of Israel. You shall eat flesh and drink blood! 18 You shall eat the flesh of warriors and drink the blood of the princes of the earth: rams, lambs, and goats, bulls and fatlings from Bashan, all of them. 19 From the sacrifice I slaughtered for you, you shall eat fat until you are sated and drink blood until you are drunk. 20 At my table you shall be sated with horse and rider, with warrior and soldier of every kind—oracle of the Lord GOD.
21 Then I will display my glory among the nations, and all the nations will see the judgment I executed, the hand I laid upon them. 22 From that day forward the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD, their God. 23 The nations shall know that the house of Israel went into exile because of its sins. Because they betrayed me, I hid my face from them, handing them over to their foes, so they all fell by the sword. 24 According to their defilement and their crimes I dealt with them, hiding my face from them.
25 Therefore, thus says the Lord GOD: Now I will restore the fortunes of Jacob and take pity on the whole house of Israel; I am zealous for my holy name. 26 They will forget their shame and all the infidelities they committed against me when they live securely on their own land with no one to frighten them. 27 When I bring them back from the nations and gather them from the lands of their enemies, I will show my holiness through them in the sight of many nations. 28 Thus they shall know that I, the LORD, am their God, since I who exiled them among the nations will gather them back to their land, not leaving any of them behind. 29 I will no longer hide my face from them once I pour out my spirit upon the house of Israel—oracle of the Lord GOD.
I hate the Orange pussball, I wish it had been Hillary who had done it, but I'm glad he recognized the capital.
Israel is a beautiful country. It is a country that faces constant existential threats no other country faces. They deserve the dignity and respect of having the nations of the world acknowledge their capital like other countries get acknowledged.
That capital is Jerusalem. Forever. Congratulations Israel.
And for the Jewish people, there will always be haters. They get their hateful comments and the Muslims get their petty revenge harassing Jews on the Temple Mount. But guess what? You got Jerusalem. And that is the important thing.
I tend to usually side with Isreal, but I think Trump is being reckless in how he is handling this. Something like this needs to be handled with the delicacy of a surgeon.
At the end of the day, I wish there was a way all sides could come to an agreement and, in the words of Lennon, give peace a chance.
Trump is working hard to get us all killed.
you can't play the fucking Holocaust card anymore as you turn the Gaza Strip into Hell on a regular basis killing the Palestinians imprisoned there as if you were shooting fish in a barrel.
Gazans are imprisoned by Hamas, their culture, mentality and hatred. They can come and go as they please via Egypt. Which you conveniently ignore R59.
As the media and leaders in the US/UK manipulated the gullible into Iraq Part II.
As you're trying to lie us into Iran.
The US has a treaty with Iran, which is not worth the paper it's written on. Thank you, Obama.
It is not your land. It is the Palestinians land.'
The region has been under constant conflict for 4,000 years. Your assertion is bigoted as well as meaningless.
Why are Israelis hated EVERYWHERE?
They aren't. But to bigoted scum (that's YOU R59), they MUST BE.
The Arabs lost 6 wars against. While Israel thrives, Arab tribal societies remain under constant strife, backwards, oppressive, brutal, producing nothing but humanity and hatred. Terror tested and perfected on the streets of Jerusalem, Tel Aviv and Haifa has been exported to the streets of London, Berlin, and Paris. It's not about "Palestine" or "Palestinians" or "occupation" or land. It's about what it has been about in the region (and the West) for the last 2,000 years: JEWS.
In the 2nd century CE, the last attempt of the Jews to achieve independence from the Roman Empire ended with the well-known event of Masada, that is historically documented and universally recognized as the fact that determined the Jewish Diaspora in a definitive way. The Land where these things happened was until then the province known as Judæa, and there is no mention of any place called "Palestine" before that time. The Roman emperor Hadrian was utterly upset with the Jewish Nation and wanted to erase the name of Israel and Judah from the face of the Earth, so that there would be no memory of the country that belonged to that rebel people. He decided to replace the denomination of that Roman province and resorted to ancient history in order to find a name that might appear appropriate, and found that an extinct people that was unknown in Roman times, called "Philistines", was once dwelling in that area and were enemies of the Israelites. Therefore, according to Latin spelling, he invented the new name: "Palæstina", a name that would be also hateful for the Jews as it reminded them their old foes. He did so with the explicit purpose of effacing any trace of Jewish history. Ancient Romans, as well as modern Palestinians, have fulfilled the Hebrew Scriptures Prophecy that declares: "They lay crafty plans against Your People... they say: ‘come, let us wipe them out as a nation; let the name of Israel be remembered no more'." - Tehilim 83:3-4 (Psalm 83:3-4).
They failed, as Israel is alive and thrives.
You can't expect to go back and claim a land that hasn't been occupied by the Jews for nearly two thousand years. I'm no lover of the Palestinians, but the argument that the Jews have an historic right to that land after such a length of time is exceptionalist and wrong. The people who had lived there for four or five generations had more historical ties to the area than the European Jewish refugees that flooded into the mandate of Palestine after WW2.
Oh, dear, we must not anger Muslim men. These unstable freaks look for any pretext to murder.
I haven't been following this issue - why will this move make people angry etc?
For those who think that jews have an eternal right to Israel, I'm sure you will be giving up your homes and property to Indians, right? If not, kindly shove it.
Why do these threads always devolve into shit? Every single time.
Wake me up when he does something truly meaningful such as bombing that gaudy golden dome on the Temple Mount...
Query Robert Fisk and read his article about the centennial anniversary of the Balfour Declaration. He says what others are afraid to say and I always suspected that Lord Balfour wanted to send the Jews to Palestine because Britain didn't want them. It was an era of massive Jewish emigration from Russia and Central Europe in 1917 and many wanted to head for England. This was their way of saying no.
R59: Why should I care about the nonexistent feelings of nonpeople in countries that ban homosexuality?
Israel has the right to do whatever the fuck it wants to the enemies of the Jews and the enemies of gay people. Without us, humans would be just another dumb animal.
All land occupied by non-Jews is illegally occupied. Get. The. Fuck. Off. NOW!
Camels are a higher form of life than camel jockeys.
Muslims are goyim and goyism is racism.
All national borders are invalid except Israels. We are all Israelis now. Am Yisrael Chai!
Racism is a capital crime.
Turning your back on Judaism is an act of racism.
Goyim are land-robbers.
Shut the fuck up Matt. Go stink up facebook.
I described Trump the other day as the kid saying "neener, neener" doing the thumb on the nose and the fingers waggling at you. Trump doesn't give a shit. This is all Jared and the evangelicals. What's funny is he doesn't have a religious bone in his body.
Everything gentiles do to the Jews justifies any and all form of retaliation. Stop trying to steal our land, you sexist racist antisemitic homophobic blasphemers!
Why do these threads always devolve into shit? Every single time.
Because Matt shows up.
The point of the Abrahamic religions is to worship the Jewish God the Jewish Way because the Jewish God gave the Torah to the Jews, and non-Jews have distorted it to promote bigotry against Jews, women, gays, and black people, all of whom are your superiors.
The best of times is NOW!
Become a Jew as only you know how!
Matt, you can rail all you want but I've blocked you so I can't read your insane, hate-filled trolling.
Gays have a vested interest in conserving our rights thus we have a vested interest in defending nations that stand up for gays.
Anybody who supports this nonsense, should be drafted first period.
Jared Kushner, in his high pitched version of Bernie Sanders' accent: "So! We're OK on this, yes? We hev an agreeminttt....Americah will recogggnize Jairusalum as the Israeli capitole?"
Saudi Prince: "Yez, yez! Of carse! Ees pairfectlee fine to call Jerusalem thee cabitole of Izrail!" (Holds up dolman sleeve, hides face with it, bursts out laughing. Composes self, lowers sleeve. "Yez, yez! Of carse. Eet ees acceptable to us." (Winks behind his sunglasses, fingers crossed behind his back. "No probleem, Jah-RET."
Jared: Goodd! (Leaves room)
Saudi prince, to his ministers, "High FAV!" (They all raise hands and smack) "We are getting war!"
R97 needs a timeout
Someone I know who was high up in intel says it's gone "dark" meaning all his old buddies are being sent off to various parts of the globe to deal with the shit Trump is starting. Intel is NOT happy with Twitler.
There is no such thing as Palastine.
There is no such thing as Palastine
What's "intel" doing about these private wars paid for by corporations in Africa and South America? That have been going on for at least a year? What is "intel" doing about Afghanistan, where Eric Prince wants his private "security force" to take over the war?
I think these things are pretty important to "Intel."
Are you addressing me R102? If so, I haven't discussed that with him but when I do I will report to you stat. **eyeroll**
YAY! Another generation of war in the Middle East that, inevitably, the US will get involved in.
Lots of Israelis, Palestinians, and Americans dead.
The only thing happy is ISIS
R100, then, there's no such thing as Israel either.
R94 except the right wing of Israel HATES gays and the right wing is in power now,
You do that, R103 ...eye roll...
Muslims are open minded and so accommodating that's why all of this is such a surprise.
As Friedman points out in his NYTimes Column today, Trump, the deal maker, gave this away without a deal at all.
All he had to say is, "Bibi, you can have America's recognition of Jerusalem as the Capital if you stop building outside the settlements."
Trump gave it up and a deal to jumpstart the peace process was lost.
The Zionists terrorists were the ones who used violence to get Israel established... blowing up the King David Hotel, for instance. The Zionists turned Palestinians out of their homes and expect the world will see them as the righteous ones, just because they were victims of Hitler's Germany. It doesn't work like that. Just because you were the victims of one terrorist regime does not give you the fucking right to establish other to terrorise a whole people in turn. You depraved, sick hypocrites.
R75, Palestinians lived there for generations and Jews showed up from around the world, took their land, and said, "this is all now ours because Jew used to live here 2000 years ago."
THAT is the problem.
Imagine Americans Indians coming and taking over your property and demanding that you just go away.
The Trump family celebrates its brilliant "deal" declaring Jerusalem the capital of israel
Now that Jerusalem is the capital of Israel as it always has been and always will be, let's celebrate by bringing gay marriage to the Holy Land and making it truly holy.
R111: You've got that backwards. Jews were there before the camel fuckers. Muhammad was a racist pedophile and Islam is a distortion of Christianity which is a distortion of Judaism, so it's a distortion of a distortion.
Jews are the Indians of the Middle East and goyim are the land-robbing cowboys. Everything Wednesday Addams said about the white man in Addams Family Values applies to the camel jockeys.
Camel jockeys are crackers and crackers are an oppressor class.
Anyone of any race who isn't Jewish might just as well be a Nazi as far as I'm concerned.
Jerusalem belongs to the Jews. We have tolerated gentile blasphemy against Judaism long enough. The more you try to steal our land, the more of the things you stole from us (i.e. everything you have) we will take back as reparations. If we need to make you our slaves, then so let it be written and so let it be fucking DONE, motherfuckers! Gay men, black men, and Jewish men have earned the right to take white men as sex slaves as reparations for their oppression of gays, Jews, and black people.
What about the Palestinians who you forced out of their homes, creating your 'paradise' through terror tactics... what gives you the right r117
Trump is a fucking idiot and a thief
Agree with R 39. I'm Jewish, against Trumps abominable decision to declare Jerusalem the capital of Israel. All my Jewish and non Jewish friends feel the same way - gay, straight whatever.
I'm dumbfounded by his fucking carelessness. Don't any of the goddamn generals or military he loves give him advice? Or do they want war for the fun of it.
What has to happen to fucking impeach him???? If the wimpy Democrats wait much longer, there will be nothing left.
This is madness!!! How the fuck does Jared Kushner get to lead this debacle? There should be some law requiring senate approval of key positions.
This has never been a problem before. Presidents didn't hire psycho family members to run the country.
I fear for the fucking worst here in the US. Getting anxiety attacks when I log into CNN
On the news the other day they were talking about SURVIVING a nuclear war. Just go to the center of your house
If Zionist Jews were half as good at diplomacy as they are at being self-important... but no. So the rest of are stuck with Bibi and his posse, Trump and his dementia, and increased apartheid on occupied dirt.
What a deal.
ALERT: The Goy Troll isn't Jewish at all. It's a Muslim extremist troll posing as a Jewish extremist who tries to shut down any thread that is remotely pro-Jewish and who rabidly tries to stir up anti-Semitic hatred on DL.
This is all Jared, right?
Alert: Jews like r122 are just as bad as Matthew Anscher, because they pretend that Jewish extremism isn't rampant in the Jewish community.
Jews like Matthew are why Jews got kicked out of every single place they infested, 109 and counting.
But Jews like r122 were another reason, because they ALWAYS deny ANY problem within Jewish culture.
What has to happen to fucking impeach him???? If the wimpy Democrats wait much longer, there will be nothing left.
The Democrats don't control Congress. A few of them did submit Articles of Impeachment. It was, of course, voted down. Congressional Republicans are simply not going to impeach him, at least not until their base decides it's time for him to go. At the moment, the Republican base is still very firmly in Trump's camp, so you can expect precisely zero action from Republicans any time soon.
This is how his idiot SIL brokers peace? In the real world most Arab nations would just assume leave Israel alone and do much business with them quietly. It's the Israelis and Palestinians that hate each other.. Thanks Don & Jared
No, r123, it's not all Jared. Do you not remember Jeffrey Fucking Epstein?
Israel has the tapes of Trump in Jeffrey Epstein's mansions, just like Israel has the tapes of Bill Clinton, and possibly even Hillary as well.
It's called blackmail. The only reason Trump was allowed to run, and given so much media coverage, is because Trump is completely under the thumb of the Jewish mafia.
And notice how even Bernie Sanders hasn't said a word about Trump and Jerusalem. EVERY senator supports this Israel-first move, because ANY senator would be crushed if they didn't.
And Bernie is as rabid an Israel-firster as Sheldon Adelson, which is why Bernie pretends that there's no such thing as Israel-firsters, and that's why Bernie talks about the Koch brothers all the time but not Adelson and Mercer and all the other Jewish billionaires.
R124 = Goy Troll's other DL personality (who knows how many voices fill its head...and this forum)
More like hasbara fairy, r128.
You've never had a thought in your head that wasn't self-serving and convenient.
The only Palace Tyne I care to recognize is Miss Daly's lovely home in Beverly Hills.
Trump just got done with approving vast assaults on the environment.
This puppet of Putin has done irreparable damage.
Notice how liberal hero Chuck Schumer said that ALL of Jerusalem is Israel's UNDIVIDED Capitol.
It's a total land-grab by these Jews and their puppet Trump. They can call Trump every name in the book, and Trump still has to do exactly what they say, and then they'll dispose of him anyway.
Also the fact that a 1995 Congress passed and act stating that Jerusalem was the capital. Every President was supposed to declare this but Never did.
Notice r131 using another Jewish trick. Pretending that Trump is a Putin puppet to stop people from noticing that Trump is a puppet of Netanyahu and united world Jewry, including Chuck Schumer and Bernie Sanders.
r133 is humble-bragging about how the Jewish lobby completely controlled the US government as far back as 1995.
Jeff Goldberg of the New Yorker served up the best quote ever on how AIPAC’s signature gathering operation and how much Congressional thought goes into each signature.
AIPAC’s leaders can be immoderately frank about the group’s influence. At dinner that night with Steven Rosen, I mentioned a controversy that had enveloped AIPAC in 1992. David Steiner, a New Jersey real-estate developer who was then serving as AIPAC’s president, was caught on tape boasting that he had “cut a deal” with the Administration of George H. W. Bush to provide more aid to Israel. Steiner also said that he was “negotiating” with the incoming Clinton Administration over the appointment of a pro-Israel Secretary of State. “We have a dozen people in his”—Clinton’s—“headquarters . . . and they are all going to get big jobs,” Steiner said. Soon after the tape’s existence was disclosed, Steiner resigned his post. I asked Rosen if AIPAC suffered a loss of influence after the Steiner affair. A half smile appeared on his face, and he pushed a napkin across the table. “You see this napkin?” he said. “In twenty-four hours, we could have the signatures of seventy senators on this napkin.”
Jewish Daily Forward:
Is Bernie Sanders a Lefty on Everything Except for Israel? by Josh Nathan-Kazis
The biggest Republican donor, Sheldon Adelson admitted flatly that he's an Israel-firster.
And yet Bernie Sanders pretends that there's no such thing as an Israel-firster, and rarely mentions Sheldon Adelson at all.
The only reason Bernie Sanders would pretend there's no such thing as an Israel-firster is because he is one himself. And there's evidence to support that, including the fact that Bernie moved to Israel the day he graduated from college.
Adelson: “I am not Israeli. The uniform that I wore in the military, unfortunately, was not an Israeli uniform. It was an American uniform, although my wife was in the IDF and one of my daughters was in the IDF … our two little boys, one of whom will be bar mitzvahed tomorrow, hopefully he’ll come back– his hobby is shooting – and he’ll come back and be a sniper for the IDF,” Adelson said at the event.
“All we care about is being good Zionists, being good citizens of Israel, because even though I am not Israeli born, Israel is in my heart,” he said toward the end of his talk."
Bernie Sanders passionately defended Israel when they slaughtered 10,000 civilians in the Gaza prison camp in 2014.
And yet he'll tell you with a straight face that we must Never Again support genocide, lol.
Just like Bernie fully supports Israel's right to be a Jewish supremacist ethnic state, but he'll tell you with a straight face that white nationalism is evil and unacceptable.
Do as I say, not as I Jew.
U.S. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) Answers "What does it mean to be Jewish?"
Remember when the Jews rammed this Jerusalem issue through at the Democratic Convention in 2012?
The democrats in the crowd booed it loudly, but the Jews rammed it through anyway, pretending the crowd supported it.
Amidst Boos And Multiple Votes, DNC Reverses Position And Reinstates Jerusalem
Jerusalem got issues
Why will people be angry if it is moved to Jerusalem? What difference does it make? Explain
R122 is a racist like all who reject the Godhood of the Jewish God.
Trump can repent by actually becoming a Jew.
Because Muslims think its ok to steal a holy spot because they built a gaudy dome on it
Why will people be angry if it is moved to Jerusalem? What difference does it make? Explain
Goyim want Jews to be second-class citizens or worse so they can keep us under their greasy unmanicured thumbs. Not gonna happen.
I can't believe the honesty and intelligence of most of these posters. They have the rationality to blame Schumer and Sanders as well as Trump.
Schumer has been pushing hard for this for years.
Chuckie Schumer "Lion of Israel" doesn't even have the cojones to answer his phone.
New York is bound to be attacked again, but Schumer will never admit that it is the US's carte blanche support, physical, (im)-moral, and financial, of Zionist-created genocide across the Middle East and North Africa (Israel wants the waters of the Blue Nile too) that led us to this.
R78, you made a comparison to the Jews and the Native Americans. Both were indigienous to their respective homeland.
The important difference is this. The Jews are the only people who have ever had a independent nation in that land. That land never became a sovereign independent country like America did. It was always occupied by other foreign powers (The Romans, Babylonians, Ottomans, British). The reason why the nations of the world supported Israel is because the Jewish people are the only people for whom that land was their independent national homeland. They have a unique claim to that land. There was never a "Palestinian state". So it isn't like Indians trying to take land from American citizens, because there was no "Palestinian citizens". There were Jews and Arabs living under the control of other powers. The Jews were willing to create a sovereign state for themselves living next to something the Arabs never had before: a sovereign independent nation for their people. The Arabs refused sovereignty (chose war for Allah) and have been suffering ever since.
I don't feel sorry. Tibetans and Kurds and other groups who actually WANT independence would give anything for the opportunities offered to the Palestinian Arabs. And the Arabs don't care.
The Jews claim to Palestine is based in superstition and mythology. They lost that land to the Romans 2,000 years ago. If they have a supernatural right to that land, their god should have made it evident to everyone on the planet. Their god couldn't even be bothered to save them from a madman with a funny little mustache.
Paleswinians' claim to anything is based on the ramblings of a racist pedophile, and the Romans fell after they adopted Christianity and banned homosexuality. That Reich that was supposed to last a thousand years didn't even last as long as the State of Israel that grew in its wake and whose continued existence with Jerusalem as its capital is the world's reparations for its genocidal racism and blasphemy towards the Jewish people. Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. Israel is the ancestral homeland of the Jews. We are the indigenous people of that land. It is you who stole it from us and we are taking it back as reparations for your racism, sexism, antisemitsm, homophobia, and ableism. If you attempt to seize Jewish land from Jews any more, we will retaliate by taking back everything you stole from your superiors because you were too fucking lazy to pick your own cotton and not smart enough to figure out how to grow it on land you didn't steal from people darker than you.
The Jewish God is God. To not be Jewish makes you no better than a Nazi at this point.
Goyism is to blame. The only solution to antisemitism is to repent for it by converting to Judaism.
Dirty stinking rotten fucking cracker breeder goyim like R124 are why your genocide is coming sooner than you think.
Birds of a feather flock together…
Last night I missed a Mufti…
r152, you're joking, right? The reestablishment of Israel is the fulfillment of Biblical prophecy. See R69, for example. (By the way, thanks to whomever posted that).
…well, you can't oblige them all.
The same people who expect us to reject Jewish theology and law as "superstition" even when it most of holds up to reality (except the parts about buttsex and pork, but those don't cancel out the good parts) also expect us to accept the even more superstitious claims of the same people who had a hand in stealing the land from Jews in the first place?
The best of times is NOW to reject the mental slavery of the gentile death cults and embrace the chance to be free under the Jewish God.
That pussy-whipped wife-beating breeder hypocrite John Lennon was wrong: woman is not the nigger of the world. Jewish men, gay men, and black men are and that's why we're all being victimized by women.
R158, and this is the same Bible that declares that gay sex is an abomination that should be punished by death. Well, whatever, carry on.
I know Jane Fonda is leading the cheers. She entertained the Israeli troops during the 1982 massacre of the Palestinians outside Beirut.
The Palestinians will probably have another intifada over this, not that the other one ever really ended. It simply means more innocent people on both sides are going to die.
They should put UN peace people there if a fight breaks out
R167 Hahahahaha, you know UN Peacekeepers couldn't protect a worm from a bird. Ask Rwanda. Seriously, if you had the Peacekeepers protecting you rather than the IDF, you would be killed faster.
Also, the UN has had international forces in that region before. The Arabs kicked them the fuck out in their war to destroy Israel. No.
Those poor defenseless Gazans/"Palestinians".
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Teaching children about peace
They should put UN peace people there if a fight breaks out
how dare he!
Jews freak out when you mention UN troops in Jerusalem. UN troops would prevent more endless land-grabs
When Jerusalem was divided for only 19 years, it was horrible. The Jews had one half, the Muslims got the other half. Tragically, the Muslims captured the half where all the "good stuff" is (i.e. holy sites, old city, etc).
They ethnically cleansed that half of every Jew, kicked them all out. They destroyed ancient synagogues, Jews were not allowed to access their holy sites like Western Wall, The Temple Mount, and the Mount of Olives. Christians were heavily restricted in their pilgrimage to Jerusalem. Christians were forced to teach the Quaran in schools there. The worst part is they took ancient gravestones of Jews (and other artifacts proving Jewish claim there) and used them for road pavements and latrines.
It was disgusting. Then when Israel won the eastern part of Jerusalem in 1967, you are damn right they reunified it and restored Jerusalem to what it is meant to be. And today, every religion has access to their holy sites, and every religious group is welcome to visit. Hindus visiting the Holy Church, Buddhist monks going to the Western Wall. Because of Israel. Because it is the holiest city to the Jews and they care about the most.
Trump is a dipshit, but Obama, Bush, and Bill Clinton had said the same thing when running. Jerusalem has to remain Israel's capital.
The Muslims will NEVER get control of Jerusalem again. Ever. Look how they treat Mecca and Medina (Oh right, non Muslims are not allowed into those cities).