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US, foreign officials warn Trump not to call Jerusalem Israel's capital

The possibility that U.S. President Donald Trump may recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital has stirred opposition from U.S. and foreign officials

Such a decision, which U.S. officials have said has not been finalized, would go against decades of U.S. policy

If Trump made such a move, it could spark demonstrations or violence by Palestinians or by Muslims around the world

The Jerusalem site holds religious significance to both Jews and Muslims

The possibility that President Trump may recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital has stirred opposition over fears of violence.
replies 217Dec 5, 2017 1:21 PM +00:00

Roseanne is jumping for joy.

replies 1Dec 5, 2017 1:22 PM +00:00

How can he "declare" what any other country's capital is?

replies 2Dec 5, 2017 1:24 PM +00:00

Thats where he wants the new US Embassy,,,,,,,they are usually placed in the countries capitol.

replies 3Dec 5, 2017 1:31 PM +00:00
How can he "declare" what any other country's capital is?

He isn't. Israel already claims Jerusalem as their capitol. This would simply acknowledge another nation's right to decide their own capitol.

Normally I'd applaud this but right now the Saudis are making big progress in their political reforms. For this reason only if it was my call I wouldn't rock their boat with this.

replies 4Dec 5, 2017 1:36 PM +00:00

capital. sigh

replies 5Dec 5, 2017 1:36 PM +00:00

Jerusalem belongs to the Jews. Anyone who tries to take it from us is a war criminal and will be dealt with as such.

replies 6Dec 5, 2017 1:47 PM +00:00

If the camel fuckers try any of this shit we will make Jerusalem capital of the whole fucking world and bring the entire goddamn UN on trial for enabling war crimes against Israel and against the Jews.

replies 7Dec 5, 2017 1:48 PM +00:00

Don't forget how much they hate women and gay men. They're basically MRAs in burnooses.

replies 8Dec 5, 2017 1:48 PM +00:00

Matthew, take your meds; you're becoming unhinged again.

replies 9Dec 5, 2017 1:50 PM +00:00

Christ, or rather Christ Killers, the chutzpah shown on this thread by the Zionists would be unbelievable if we didn't already know that Zionists are inveterate sociopaths.

Wolfie "Jerusalem" Blitzer is almost creaming his pants on CNN.

--The apocalypse is nigh
replies 10Dec 5, 2017 1:51 PM +00:00

Jesus, that Makk guy again. They told Trump not to do it, and you know what his next tweet will be now...

replies 11Dec 5, 2017 1:51 PM +00:00

Peaceful coexistence is an unislamic concept, especially when it comes to Jews. There is no such thing as a lasting truce in islam, just a temporary one during which muslims are to bide their time. There is no reason to pretend otherwise and no reason to placate muslims, jihad against humanity is their oxygen.

replies 12Dec 5, 2017 1:53 PM +00:00

Goyism is racism and so is R9/R10.

replies 13Dec 5, 2017 1:53 PM +00:00
Peaceful coexistence is an unislamic concept, especially when it comes to Jews. There is no such thing as a lasting truce in islam, just a temporary one during which muslims are to bide their time. There is no reason to pretend otherwise and no reason to placate muslims, jihad against humanity is their oxygen.

Hitler should have killed them and not the Jews.

replies 14Dec 5, 2017 1:54 PM +00:00

Because it was Muslims who lied us into Iraq and are trying their damn best to lie us into Iran, right, R14?

--Axis of Evil named the wrong countries
replies 15Dec 5, 2017 1:57 PM +00:00

Hitler had strong ties with islam. The grand mufti of Jerusalem lived in Berlin during the war and many nazis found safe haven in islamic countries.

replies 16Dec 5, 2017 1:59 PM +00:00

Well this thread took a nasty turn pretty quick!

replies 17Dec 5, 2017 2:09 PM +00:00

The late, unlamented Charles Manson called himself a cross between Jesus and Hitler. Jesus was a myth the Romans made up to justify stealing Jewish land, the cult of Muhammad took everything wrong with Judaism and Christianity and made them exponentially worse, and Hitler is the culmination of 2000 years of that evil lie going unchecked.

All of Israel belongs to the Jews and not just any Jews but gay Jews.

replies 18Dec 5, 2017 2:13 PM +00:00

The only solution to anti-semitism is semitism.

--If you're not Jewish, then you're part of the problem
replies 19Dec 5, 2017 2:13 PM +00:00

If this thread is any indication, this latest Trump extravaganza and Jared Kushner foreign policy masterstroke will be a Uuge success.

replies 20Dec 5, 2017 2:15 PM +00:00

Earlier thread

While I know this would be a huge thumb in the eye to Muslims and would make hardline Israelites happy (both bad things), it would piss off Turkey and Saudi Arabia, which seems like a good thing. ...
the DataLounge
replies 21Dec 5, 2017 2:18 PM +00:00

No culture that attacked the Jews has stood the test of time.

replies 22Dec 5, 2017 2:24 PM +00:00

Trump is being gratuitously provocative. That's what he enjoys. That's just one of the traits that makes him so deeply deeply obnoxious.

replies 23Dec 5, 2017 2:27 PM +00:00

Correction: Hitler had strong ties with Zionist, in fact, the Nazis worked with Zionist to ship European Jews to Israel.

When facts first emerged in the 1950s about Zionist-Nazi collusion, it caused considerable scandal in Israel and led to the fall of the Israeli government of the time. A number of books are dedicated to this subject and it is discussed in numerous others, almost all by Jewish and/or Israeli authors. The topic inspired novels by well-known Israeli writers Amos Elon and Neil Gordon, was the subject of a 1987 British play, and was portrayed in a 1994 Israeli docudrama. It’s surprising that Steinberg and the Board of Rabbis make no indication of ever having heard anything about this.

Popular American playwright and fervent Zionist Ben Hecht wrote the first book on the subject, “Perfidy,” relating the history of a Hungarian Zionist leader who arranged for his family and several hundred prominent Jews to escape while facilitating the movement of the rest of Hungarian Jews to Nazi concentration camps.

Hannah Arendt, in her 1960 book “Eichmann in Jerusalem: A Report in the Banality of Evil,” writes: “To a Jew this role of the Jewish leaders in the destruction of their own people is undoubtedly the darkest chapter of the whole dark story.”

In “The Transfer Agreement: The Dramatic Story of the Pact between the Third Reich and Jewish Palestine” (containing an afterword by ADL head Abe Foxman), pro-Israel writer Edwin Black reports that in 1933 Zionist leaders concluded a secret pact with the Third Reich that transferred 60,000 Jews and $100,000 to Palestine, Zionists promising in return that they would halt the worldwide boycott “that threatened to topple the Hitler regime in its first year.”

Author-researcher Lenni Brenner wrote of Zionist-Nazi collusion in “Zionism in the Age of Dictators,” of which the London Times stated: “Brenner is able to cite numerous cases where Zionists collaborated with anti-Semitic regimes, including Hitler’s.”

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replies 24Dec 5, 2017 2:35 PM +00:00

How do the Jew-hating deplorables reconcile his support of Israel with their hatred of the people who constitute the majority of its population and are its indigenous peoples?

replies 25Dec 5, 2017 2:46 PM +00:00
Trump is being gratuitously provocative. That's what he enjoys. That's just one of the traits that makes him so deeply deeply obnoxious.

Yep. Jerusalem could collapse into the earth in a giant sinkhole right now and Trump wouldn’t lose a wink of sleep tonight. Just couldn’t care any less. But he gets to troll the world. Nothing makes him happier.

replies 26Dec 5, 2017 2:51 PM +00:00

Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. It deserves the recognition like any other country. The fact that we allow the fears of threats of violence from Muslims to dictate our policy, does not fight terrorism but enables it.

BTW, for the first time in history, Jerusalem has unprecedented religious freedom and pluralism. I have been there and it is beautiful. BECAUSE of Israel. Because the Jewish people care about that city more than anyone else.

replies 27Dec 5, 2017 3:02 PM +00:00

We care about it because it is ours.

replies 28Dec 5, 2017 3:06 PM +00:00

R27, Jerusalem was supposed to be the capital of a future Palestinian State. This move would kill any hope for a Two-State Solution. Hope is a guiding force that helps to quell violence and keep Mid-East Peace talks progressing toward a goal.

If you destroy any chance for a Palestinian State, then you’re opening the door to a One-State Solution where Palestinians are granted full Israeli citizenship and they must co-exist as one nation. Jews would quickly get swallowed up by the Arab population, becoming the minority, and Israel would no longer be a Jewish State.

replies 29Dec 5, 2017 3:09 PM +00:00


No, apartheid will rule the day. Muslims and non-Jews will be second class citizens.

replies 30Dec 5, 2017 3:12 PM +00:00

How about telling Arab countries that if you want the US not to call Jerusalem their capital, then all these Arab countries have to announce that they think Israel has the right to exist and that they have to allow people in their countries to be able to fly into Israel without discrimination?

replies 31Dec 5, 2017 3:16 PM +00:00

Palestinians had 50 years to build a nation with a capital as Israel has done.

Arafat and his successors instead looted the foreign aid and kept the population perpetually poor, ignorant, and stateless. They can have the capital of their pretend kingdom in Gaza, or more probably far away from the stink in the French Rivera.

replies 32Dec 5, 2017 3:25 PM +00:00

God, or rather Yahweh, you Zionists really do think that the rest of us are stupid and will continue to fall for your propaganda because we've had the Jewish Holocaust shoved down our throats since childhood.

Newsflash: Even young American Jews are turning against Israel and Zionism. If I can find the link I will post it.

So, what do Zionists want? The US embassy moved to Jerusalem, which will enrage Muslims worldwide, leading to acts of "terror," leading to Zionists telling Jews and non-Jews alike that Muslims are "animals" who can't be trusted, so they better side with Israel. Leading to war with Iran, leading to CHAOS.

--Bleeding what's left of the US dry
replies 33Dec 5, 2017 3:31 PM +00:00


The notion that this hurts the peace process is wrong. For 70 years the Palestinians have said "don't recognize Jerusalem or we will not accept a peace deal". Guess what? They have never accepted a peace deal. It has never stopped them from killing people. Meanwhile, Israel has NEVER threatened violence or not to come to the table if America doesn't recognize Jerusalem as their capital. Israel has said yes to the peace deals.

The fact the Palestinians use the "terrorism card" proves to me they cannot be trusted with Jerusalem. That is what this comes down to.

But even if you believe that the Palestinians should get a piece of Jerusalem in a final settlement, Trump would not be moving the embassy to the part of Jerusalem that is up for dispute. All he has to do is say the fact: "Jerusalem is the eternal capital of Israel. As a recognition of the legitimacy and sovereignty of Israel, and to not presuppose any final outcome, The US embassy will be moved to a location in Jerusalem that is not in dispute."

The Palestinians do not think Israel is legitimate country. While they claim they want the eastern part of Jerusalem as the capital of their future state, most believe they can still eliminate Israel and not make peace with it.

Not recognizing the capital/moving the embassy reinforces for those Palestinians the idea that Israel is not a legitimate country. And because of that, they don't have to make peace with it. The embassy would be moved to a location in Jerusalem that is not up for dispute. It sends the message to the Palestinians that Israel is not going anywhere and has a legitimate claim to Jerusalem.

replies 34Dec 5, 2017 3:44 PM +00:00

[Jerusalem was supposed to be the capital of a future Palestinian State.]

This is simply not true. The UN Partition plan in 1947 that was going to create two states: 1 for Jews (Israel) and 1 for Arabs) called for Jerusalem to be a "world" city hat belonged to neither. It was never going to be for the Arabs.

The Jews accepted this in 1948 while the Arabs waged war demanding the whole area for themselves.

Jerusalem only became fully Israeli in 1967 when Israel won it after being attacked by the Arab countries.

Look it up. Stop spreading lies.

replies 35Dec 5, 2017 3:48 PM +00:00

ALso, this doesn't go "against US policy". Actually US Congress passed the decision to move it in 1995.
replies 36Dec 5, 2017 3:50 PM +00:00

This has been US policy but no President has implemented the policy. I don't see this bringing other countries on board. So what is the point? Maybe Trump will say the embassy itself won't be there until 2023 or something.

The US is becoming a country that has very little influence on the world.

replies 37Dec 5, 2017 3:53 PM +00:00

The European Jews should have gone with Plan A which was making themselves a homeland in Uganda. We wouldn't be having all this terrorism if they'd just chosen Uganda instead.

replies 38Dec 5, 2017 3:55 PM +00:00

Why not just give the Jews the whole world as reparations for two millennia of racism, sexism, antisemitism, homophobia, ableism, blasphemy, and crimes against humanity?

replies 39Dec 5, 2017 3:56 PM +00:00

R22, The Romans? Spanish? Germans?

replies 40Dec 5, 2017 3:57 PM +00:00

The Roman Empire fell after it imposed Christianity and banned homosexuality. All the allies of Hitler saw regime changes.

replies 41Dec 5, 2017 3:58 PM +00:00

R35, what do you mean by "won it? Occupying foreign territory is against the Geneva Conventions. This wasn't some Country Fair raffle prize.

replies 42Dec 5, 2017 3:59 PM +00:00
The European Jews should have gone with Plan A which was making themselves a homeland in Uganda. We wouldn't be having all this terrorism if they'd just chosen Uganda instead.

Fuck you asshole! ALL Jews come from Israel. DNA evidence has proven this. Just cuz some of us may look white doesn't mean we are.

replies 43Dec 5, 2017 4:00 PM +00:00
[R35], what do you mean by "won it? Occupying foreign territory is against the Geneva Conventions. This wasn't some Country Fair raffle prize.

"Won it" as in in 1967 when Israel was ATTACKED BY ARABS, they fought back and won the land.

You know how EVERY COUNTRY ON THIS PLANET has been created.

replies 44Dec 5, 2017 4:00 PM +00:00

Wow this Matthew guy is really fucked in the head. Is he housebound?

replies 45Dec 5, 2017 4:01 PM +00:00

My Dear , late Aunt Raya from Israel said they should move Israel to Kansas to be closer to ME! I think she had a cute little crush on me. but seriously what R44 said.

replies 46Dec 5, 2017 4:05 PM +00:00


"The Roman Empire fell after it imposed Christianity and banned homosexuality."

Emperor Constantine made Christianity a state religion more than 250 years after the 2nd temple was razed. As for banning homosexuality, correlation does not equal causation. The original assertion was that every empire that fucks with the Jews doesn't last. ALL empires rise and fall, regardless of whether or not they fuck with the Jews.

If Yahweh the Mountain God protects his people, he's sure done a shit job of it. WWII took 6 years and millions of lives.

"All the allies of Hitler saw regime changes" Again correlation not causation.

replies 47Dec 5, 2017 4:06 PM +00:00

Jerusalem and the entirety of Israel belongs to the Jews.

replies 48Dec 5, 2017 4:07 PM +00:00

R44, what you are talking about is WAR CRIME and a violation of The Geneva conventions. Read a fucking book.

replies 49Dec 5, 2017 4:08 PM +00:00

R48, So Yahweh the Mountain God was a real estate agent?

replies 50Dec 5, 2017 4:09 PM +00:00

R27- Do you know that Israel used their military to annex Jerusalem? Does that make a difference as to the recognition by the international community?

R22- Not exactly sure what you mean by a culture that has attacked Jews. By German culture comes to mind as having attacked Jews and survived.

R25 - I'm not sure how true that statement is. Evangelicals supporting Israel and being anti-Semitic at the same time is not unusual. Israel plays a very important role in their version of Christianity.

R19 - Antisemitism is prejudice and hostility toward Jewish people. Semitism refers to Jews and Arabs.

replies 51Dec 5, 2017 4:10 PM +00:00

R43, most European Jews look Swedish not Middle Eastern. Middle easterners don't look like Norwegians and Swedes. Clearly, they don't have one drop of Middle Eastern blood. They are descendant of European converts. Their ancestors never dipped a toe in the Middle East. This is a fairy tale fabrication. Blond haired, blue eyed people come from northern Europe, not the ME.

replies 52Dec 5, 2017 4:14 PM +00:00

I have to laugh at r52, who has never seen a blond, blue-eyed Jewish brother to the darkest eyed and complexioned Jewish sisters. If they'd all looked like aryans 6 million of them wouldn't have been slaughtered.

Apparently r52 and his Aryan Brotherhood have stumbled across a few very fair Jewish men and feel intimidated by their looks, their education,their consistently larger penises, and their stronger sex drive and confidence. And they look more like the Aryan ideal than those darkie Aryan Brotherhood adherents.

replies 53Dec 5, 2017 4:41 PM +00:00


Lack of any property rights by both entities has hindered any resolution.

replies 54Dec 5, 2017 4:42 PM +00:00

This will not end well. This is all Jared's mad influence. The Russians already sees Trump as a liability. The Saudi will retaliate. Trump is being cornered and knows his days are numbered, so he might just provoke war to whip up his base and prolong his reign.

replies 55Dec 5, 2017 5:06 PM +00:00


Are you unaware of bin Salman (the heir) and his ties to Israel? You know, the one who has been in the news constantly for the last two months?

Israel and KSA are in close communication due to their alliance against Iran. Very few American websites (but quite a few non-western sites) have written extensively about the ties between KSA and Israel.

Why do you think the US media continually runs stories about how Iran, half a world away, is a huge threat to the United States?

I had to spend a few minutes finding a rather reputable source that wasn’t extremely biased. It is pretty easy to read between the lines of the article and understand that the relationship between Israel and KSA has been an ongoing development for the last decade.

Iran poses an existential threat to Western influences in the Middle East. Probably because they were the first target of the CIA during the coup in 1953, and have a long organizational memory.

The ability of Saudi Arabia to sell oil to China without using US dollars is the big reason we are at war in the Middle East. If we let them off the chain, the dollar as a world reserve currency is dead.

Determination to roll back Iranian power unites Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the U.S.
replies 56Dec 5, 2017 5:22 PM +00:00

And Christians too OP, not just Jews and Muslims.

replies 57Dec 5, 2017 5:25 PM +00:00

Isreal has been licking Trump's ass for the past year to get this recognition. But there are also a fresh wave of neo-cons behind this salivating at starting another Middle East war. This is what you get when you have a dumb leader who leaves the door wide open for the evil-minded into the corridors of power.

replies 58Dec 5, 2017 5:30 PM +00:00

How DARE you, R57!

The displacement of Christians in the Middle East doesn’t seem to bother many Christians in the United States. We have normalized war as a simple fact of life.

Although I’m not a believer in the supernatural, I have decided that I am a Christian.

Prince of Peace, lord of truthful and honest interactions, redeemer of sinful man- He is the paragon of the things I want to be in my life.

replies 59Dec 5, 2017 5:32 PM +00:00

The best thing that could happen for this world would be for Netanyahu and the rest of the Zionist vermin to be killed en masse. They assassinated Rabin and deserve no better, filthy dogs.

--Tony Woodard
replies 60Dec 5, 2017 5:34 PM +00:00
Isreal has been licking Trump's ass for the past year to get this recognition.

Maybe, but they haven't actually been giving him anything real in return for this recognition. That's one of the things that people are calling him out on: this is valuable leverage to force Israel to the bargaining table and he's just giving it away, not asking for anything. That's just stupid.

So much for his reputation as a negotiator.

replies 61Dec 5, 2017 5:34 PM +00:00


Perfect example. I’ll bet you think you are a Christian. No, you’re just a deluded fool who believes that the prince of peace would ever authorize mass murder.

replies 62Dec 5, 2017 5:36 PM +00:00

Much as I detest Thomas Friedman, he was right to declare the beginning of the one state era a couple years ago. This decision will only hasten that, and it’s probably for the best in the long run honesty. If Israel wants to become a normal country, it’ll have to either absorb or give Palestinians a state. Until their horrid plight of exile and disenfranchisement ends, Israel will remain a nation that’s at best looked down upon and at worst becomes a complete pariah.

Also, there’s less Palestinians than stats suggest because they’re often double counted in censuses. Their birth rates have also gone down a lot as they’ve westernized too. Honestly the situation on the ground isn’t nearly the doomsday outsiders think.

replies 63Dec 5, 2017 5:39 PM +00:00
But there are also a fresh wave of neo-cons behind this salivating at starting another Middle East war. This is what you get when you have a dumb leader who leaves the door wide open for the evil-minded into the corridors of power.

Tell us about it.
replies 64Dec 5, 2017 5:44 PM +00:00
Jerusalem and the entirety of Israel belongs to gay Jews of color as does the whole motherfucking planet. Give it to us or we will take it by force.


--Pink is a color
replies 65Dec 5, 2017 6:03 PM +00:00

If you're not both openly gay and a practicing Jew, then you might as well be just another racist white redneck.

replies 66Dec 5, 2017 6:03 PM +00:00

I got to say something. People have been threatening the end of the two state solution for 50 years as a ploy to pressure Israel. It isn't dead and never has been. Abbas has been threatening the end of the two state solution BEFORE word Trump is going to recognize Jerusalem as the capital.

The more peace deals the Arabs have rejected the more I have realized it is not Israel that has to be pressured.

Israel still supports the two state plan. They have had the West Bank/Judea and Samaria for 50 years and never annexed it, even with right wing governments. Why? Because they still believe in keeping the possibility open.

For all the talk about Bibi Netanyahu being some horrible right winger (he isn't), the fact is when it comes to the peace process, it just isn't true.

Details were released about the 2014 peace talks. The report shows that Netanyahu approved a framework, created by John Kerry and his team, that would have resulted in a Palestinian state based on the 1967 lines with land swaps. When it was presented to Mahmoud Abbas, he angrily rejected it because it wasn't clear enough about Jerusalem. When Kerry came back with a sweeter offer that addressed Abbas' concerns - without consulting the Israelis - Abbas never responded and let the talks die. It proves that Netanyahu is far more flexible towards a two-state solution than any reporter has ever written. It proves that Abbas is more intransigent and uninterested in peace than any reporter is willing to admit.

Again, if you don't like Bibi fine. But the idea that it is Israel rejecting two state solutions is just not true.
replies 67Dec 5, 2017 6:11 PM +00:00

They haven’t annexed Palestine completely because that would force either granting citizenship or another ethnic cleansing, which is immoral as well as an event that would ensure Israel becomes a pariah until the end of time.

People who think the two state solution is still viable, especially as settlements go up and precious water gets piped from Palestine into them, are frankly delusional. If it’s truly desired to have Israel become a normal country, another Norway, then they must grant full and equal rights to those suffering people whose lands they occupy and strip for resources. Just as Canada and Australia did in the 60s with their native populations. These ‘isms’ that divide humanity up belong in the past century.

replies 68Dec 5, 2017 6:24 PM +00:00

Hey R68, Israel is a normal country. In fact, more countries have been establishing diplomatic ties with Israel since it's creation, not less.

It also is a beautiful country.

replies 69Dec 5, 2017 6:27 PM +00:00

Lol r69 ooooookay

replies 70Dec 5, 2017 6:28 PM +00:00
If you're not both openly gay and a practicing Jew, then you might as well be just another racist white redneck.

Matt, get help. Stat.

replies 71Dec 5, 2017 6:31 PM +00:00
So much for his reputation as a negotiator.

It's the art of the deal.

replies 72Dec 5, 2017 6:36 PM +00:00

Yes, we would, R39. Jihad has been a fact for humanity for 1,400 years and counting. The issue of Israel might be seen as a mere accelerant. Islam is war and always has been. Nothing has changed.

replies 73Dec 5, 2017 6:39 PM +00:00

Aren't most Arabs Semitics?

replies 74Dec 5, 2017 6:45 PM +00:00
US, foreign officials warn Trump not to call Jerusalem Israel's capital

Well what the hell is he supposed to call it, Hymietown?

--Jesse Jack—whoops, I mean anonymous
replies 75Dec 5, 2017 6:56 PM +00:00
US, foreign officials warn Trump not to call Jerusalem Israel's capital

Well what the hell is he supposed to call it, Hymietown?

--Jesse Jack—whoops, I mean anonymous
replies 76Dec 5, 2017 6:56 PM +00:00

The US is a colony of Israel. The only choice we get is which Israeli puppet we want to betray us.

Hillary and Trump both bow to Netanyahu.

And the strongest "criticism" Bernie "Kibbutz" Sanders would make of Netanyahu was, "I'm not the biggest fan of Netanyahu."

All this talk of Russia pulling Trump's strings is just more Jewish trickery. Jared told Flynn to tell Russia to block UN criticism of Israel.

We just finished fighting a 3 trillion dollar war for Israel, now the Jews want to start another big war so they can drag the US into fighting Iran for them.

Because a yiddish kopf is much more valuable than a goyishe kopf, and Jewish morality applies to Jews only.
replies 77Dec 5, 2017 6:59 PM +00:00

Don't pretend that you care about foreign interference regarding Russia, when you know damn well that Israel calls the shots in the US.

The Israeli Prime Minister's speech warning the US against accepting a nuclear deal with Iran received numerous standing ovations Get the latest headlines ht...
replies 78Dec 5, 2017 7:00 PM +00:00

Watch Bernie Sander show his true colors after Israel slaughtered 10,000 people because somebody shot a bottle rocket into an empty field in Israel:

Israel could kill 100,000 or 1 million Palestinian civilians and Bernie would effortlessly find a way to defend it, talking about how it's complicated, and Hamas this and ISIS that.

Bernie would have pretended to believe that Assad gassed his own people in Syria, just for the excuse to send the US military to fight Israel's wars.

Why do you think Bernie Sanders supports the F-35 program? He's a closet neocon, just like Hillary, Trump, Pence, and even Elizabeth Warren if she got the orders.

Even too extreme for Bernie! In an August 16, 2014 town hall in Cabot, VT, pro-Hamas protesters spar with Bernie Sanders
replies 79Dec 5, 2017 7:05 PM +00:00

Jerusalem has lots of nice cut cocks.

replies 80Dec 5, 2017 7:18 PM +00:00

All the communist ANTIFA Jews are going to be secretly celebrating this great Jewish triumph:

It Could Split the American Jewish Community:

Jerusalem has been one of the rare Israel-related issues that most American Jews have found consensus about. But while liberal Jews strongly believe that Jerusalem (or at least West Jerusalem) should be recognized as Israel’s capital, they do not necessarily support Trump’s timing or handling of the issue. So far, the pro-Israel lobby AIPAC has expressed support for Trump’s expected move, but has left most of the heavy political lifting to evangelical Christians, who have also been active on the issue. The dovish lobby J Street and other left-wing groups warned against embarking on the move, which they view as dangerous and as one that would pre-judge the final status agreement between Israel and the Palestinian Authority.

The decision may lead to widespread violent protests in the region and upend long-standing policy. But it also recognizes the facts on the ground.
The Forward
replies 81Dec 5, 2017 7:21 PM +00:00

He's doing it because Pence and the crazy fundies want to destabilize and incite violence in the Holy Land to create the End Times so Jesus comes back. And yes, I am completely serious.

replies 82Dec 5, 2017 7:25 PM +00:00

I love your comment, r82
replies 83Dec 5, 2017 7:29 PM +00:00

Pence only got to be on the Trump ticket because the Big Jews knew that Pence was loyal to Israel.

--Sarah Palin
replies 84Dec 5, 2017 7:30 PM +00:00

R82, because American law says he has to do it, and President's have only delayed the decision for peace talks (which have failed) so now Trump is trying a new approach.

replies 85Dec 5, 2017 7:37 PM +00:00

Jesus is never coming back and all who reject Judaism and homosexuality will pay dearly.

replies 86Dec 5, 2017 7:40 PM +00:00

Jesus was a lie made up by the Romans to justify stealing Judea from the Jews. The Koran perpetuates this lie by talking about the "Virgin" Mary more than the New Testament actually does.

replies 87Dec 5, 2017 7:41 PM +00:00

Moses was a lie made up by Jews who wanted to claim credit for building the Great Pyramids and stealing Canaan from the Canaanites and renaming it Israel.

--"The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you" - Polish Proverb
replies 88Dec 5, 2017 7:43 PM +00:00

All the above-retarded young Israelis are moving out as fast as they can. Israel is way too Jewy, even for the non-Orthodox Jews.

Major brain drain is going on, and Jewish Israel's pathetic average IQ score is dropping every year.
replies 89Dec 5, 2017 7:46 PM +00:00

Just shit on Lindy's fat head already. Let a big smelly turd get entangled in her hair, and up her nostrils, and in her ears, and in her mouth.

replies 90Dec 5, 2017 7:47 PM +00:00

Just think, in 20 years these little Yids will have their hands on Israel's 200 nuclear weapons.

Netanyahu sees the writing on the wall, which is why he has abandoned more moderate or liberal US Jews and fully embraced the Orthodox Jews, along with doubling down on the Christian Zionists.
replies 91Dec 5, 2017 7:50 PM +00:00

Christianity violates "I am the Lord Thy God; Thou shalt have no Gods before Me" with its worship of Jesus, and Catholicism in particular compounds this with the "Holy" Ghost.

replies 92Dec 5, 2017 7:51 PM +00:00

It's all an absurd amount of bloodshed and resources wasted on a piece of shit property the size of New Jersey. If aliens need proof of the insanity of humans, they just need to look at that blighted spot on the piss-side of the Mediterranean.

replies 93Dec 5, 2017 7:55 PM +00:00

Israel's nicer than New Jersey. Safer, too.

replies 94Dec 5, 2017 7:56 PM +00:00

Unhinged bed knobs and broomsticks all over this thread.

He’s every negative stereotype come marvelously to life!

replies 95Dec 5, 2017 7:58 PM +00:00

Another day, another gathering of DL's legion of bigoted scum.

--Life in Bigoted America
replies 96Dec 5, 2017 7:58 PM +00:00

Christianity is Reform Judaism that is actually reformed, not just adept at hiding racial supremacist ideology behind fuzzy, goy-friendly language.

Unreformed Jews, or as we call them Jews, are still waiting for their Jesus, after which some other Jews will declare that Messiah II isn't the real Messiah, and that those Jews who follow him aren't real Jews.

replies 97Dec 5, 2017 8:02 PM +00:00

Mustn't upset our Muslim friends, eh DL?
replies 98Dec 5, 2017 8:02 PM +00:00

Only rabid racial supremacists would reject Jesus' message that God loves everybody, not just rabid inbred Jews.

replies 99Dec 5, 2017 8:02 PM +00:00

The only problem with Christianity is that it's so universalist that narrow tribalists can easily exploit and conquer Christian societies.

replies 100Dec 5, 2017 8:04 PM +00:00

R95: If only we could do to real-life terrorists what Disney did to movie Nazis.

replies 101Dec 5, 2017 8:07 PM +00:00
Life in Bigoted America

It's not just America; it's any place blasphemy against Judaism and bigotry against homosexuality are tolerated while violent recourse is criminalized in order to protect the phony, trumped-up "rights" of those same bigots that come at the expense of those they're bigoted against.

Converting to Judaism is the only answer.

replies 102Dec 5, 2017 8:08 PM +00:00

Long live Homosexuality, Judaism and Bedknobs and Broomsticks!

Breaking ties with his white supremacist past, Kevin Wilshaw says he now feels 'appallingly guilty' about membership in far-right group
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Crazy Zionist Fucktarded Cunt is blocked.

replies 104Dec 5, 2017 8:14 PM +00:00


The decentralized nature of Christianity is superior to Judaism. And Islam.

replies 105Dec 5, 2017 8:14 PM +00:00

Lot of Catholics and Catholic school scum on this thread showing their patron Saint Pius XII and his patron Hitler how well they've learned their hatred.
replies 106Dec 5, 2017 8:16 PM +00:00

R104/R105 reveals the inherent racism and ableism of goyism. Repent, you bigoted blasphemer. Christianity is the polyester that almost passes for Judaism's silk to the untrained eye. Islam is just a poly-silk blend that falls apart when subjected to any kind of agitation.

replies 107Dec 5, 2017 8:16 PM +00:00

Most of us already had r104 / r105 blocked

replies 108Dec 5, 2017 8:18 PM +00:00

God gave the Torah to the Jews. Christians stole it and distorted it, using that distorted version to justify spreading bloodshed all over the world. Islam added even another layer of bullshit and doubled down on the bigotry of Christianity.

Judaism is the one true faith. Gentile land-robbers will pay for any an all attempts to steal Jewish land from Jews.

replies 109Dec 5, 2017 8:19 PM +00:00

No one who commits crimes against Judaism or crimes against homosexuality has any rights gay Jews are bound to respect.

replies 110Dec 5, 2017 8:20 PM +00:00

r105 superior like the dodo bird?

The white world is Christian and Christian-based in our moral codes. The white world is also going extinct, while Orthodox Jews and Muslims breed new religious warriors as fast as the white man can say "welfare will pay for all of that!"

The fatal error of the white man was not having enough connection to the brutal, Darwinian physical world, and not having enough ethnic pride in our unparalleled accomplishments.

Now we're being conquered inside our own countries, by racially aware minorities who have nothing but contempt for our ditsy notion of a Melting Pot.

replies 111Dec 5, 2017 8:20 PM +00:00

Judaism rejects Matthew Anscher and his homosexual lifestyle.

--Rabbi Orthowitz
replies 112Dec 5, 2017 8:22 PM +00:00

Matt too fulla booze

replies 113Dec 5, 2017 8:22 PM +00:00

The Gay Jewish Supremacist Troll joins the hate fest. Shalom R109 R110.

replies 114Dec 5, 2017 8:22 PM +00:00

Son nom est Matt

replies 115Dec 5, 2017 8:24 PM +00:00

what if all the muslims killed all the jews? it might be cool like if every police officer caught a virus and they all ate each other.

replies 116Dec 5, 2017 8:24 PM +00:00

what if all the jews killed all the muslims? it might be cool like if every police officer caught a virus and they all ate each other.

replies 117Dec 5, 2017 8:26 PM +00:00

The Number One Commandment in Jewish culture is, "Don't be a Sucker". Freier is the Yiddish word for sucker.

The Number Two Commandment in Jewish culture is implied in #1, "Make a sucker out of others".

This is most obviously true in Israel, where everybody is trying to cut in line and scam each other 24/7.

But it's also obvious if you look at American Jews in the fields of finance (Bernie Madoff types everywhere), entertainment (Harvey Weinsteins everywhere), and law.

If you're not ripping somebody off, you're an idiot. That's Jewish morality in a nutshell.

replies 118Dec 5, 2017 8:27 PM +00:00
Christianity is the polyester that almost passes for Judaism's silk to the untrained eye.

Christ in king, baby. Christ is king. America is a Christian land — we tolerate other religions. We don’t steal their houses and throw them into refugee camps. You should be grateful. Even your little science project in the Middle East would never exist but for the acceptance of the Christian nations that rule this world.

replies 119Dec 5, 2017 8:27 PM +00:00

All-non Jewish religious beliefs are racist and blasphemous with no exceptions whatsoever.

Jews, gays and black people have put up with enough shit from everybody else to have earned cart blanche to do whatever the fuck we want to those who oppose us for any reason whatsoever. You try and steal our land, we'll take it back as payment. You kill our men, women and children and we'll do the same to yours. You rape our women and we'll rape your men in retaliation. You kill gay people and we'll kill heterosexuals in retaliation.

Jews, gays and black people are the masters of humanity. We own you. You tried to enslave us, kill us, rob us, and strip us of our identity, culture and values and you're still doing it today. To repay the damage you have done to us means allowing us to do to you what you have done to us. Social justice not only requires that the oppressor classes be completely vanquished, it fucking demands it.

Destiny calls us, the future is OURS!

replies 120Dec 5, 2017 8:27 PM +00:00

r116 is Jewish. You can tell not only by his Jewish genocide of Muslims fantasy, but also by his hatred of goyishe cops, pun intended.

r116 wants to live in a world where Jews rule, and savage black thugs serve as the footsoldiers of the Jews.

replies 121Dec 5, 2017 8:29 PM +00:00
what if all the jews killed all the muslims?

One more act of Christo-Islamic terrorism against Jews and/or gay people, and that will be the cue to destroy your vile ilk once and for fucking all.

Leave town. Keep on going before I can count to five.

replies 122Dec 5, 2017 8:30 PM +00:00

Whelp, since this thread is full of complete fuck-ups and assholes, some entertainment.
replies 123Dec 5, 2017 8:31 PM +00:00

r120 exhibits the eternal Jewish hatred of all thing non-Jewish. Tolerance, co-existence, forgiveness, and respect are completely alien to The Eternal Jew, which is why they get kicked out of every single country, 109 times and counting.

replies 124Dec 5, 2017 8:31 PM +00:00
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r120 needs medication pronto.

replies 126Dec 5, 2017 8:32 PM +00:00

R123: In our lifetime, the world will pledge allegiance to that flag. Count on it.

replies 127Dec 5, 2017 8:33 PM +00:00

Jews like r122 used to poison the wells of Europe. That's how the black plague spread 10x as fast and killed 5x as many people in Europe as the black plague did in Asia, despite being in Asia for a longer period of time.

replies 128Dec 5, 2017 8:33 PM +00:00
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Matthew Anscher, why don't you make Aliyah and join the master race?

Oh that's right, they don't want you.

Nobody can spot a parasite faster than another parasite.

replies 131Dec 5, 2017 8:35 PM +00:00

You'll NEVER see this in a Muslim country.
replies 132Dec 5, 2017 8:36 PM +00:00
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Jew stabs people at gay pride march in Jerusalem for second time

Six revellers attacked by Yishai Schlissel, recently released from prison after serving 10 years for stabbing three people at gay pride parade in 2005

Six revellers attacked by Yishai Schlissel, recently released from prison after serving 10 years for stabbing three people at gay pride parade in 2005
the Guardian
replies 135Dec 5, 2017 8:38 PM +00:00

Tel Aviv Municipality buildiing lit up for Pride 2017.
replies 136Dec 5, 2017 8:39 PM +00:00

Ok, we get it. Don't bombard the discussion with pictures.

replies 137Dec 5, 2017 8:40 PM +00:00
An Ultra-Orthodox Jewish man lunged into a group of revelers at Jerusalem's annual gay pride parade and stabbed six people on Thursday evening, Israeli polic...
replies 138Dec 5, 2017 8:41 PM +00:00

As if Matthew would leave the basement to attend Pride.

replies 139Dec 5, 2017 8:41 PM +00:00

The Ultra Orthodox vs. The IDF: Israel's Other Religious War

Subscribe to VICE News here: Since Israel's inception, the Haredi — ultra-Orthodox adherents of Judaism —have been exemp...
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Orthodox Jewish Men Cause Flight Delays After Refusing To Sit Next To Women

"Israel’s national airline, El Al, has been criticised for allowing ultra-orthodox Jewish men to disrupt flights by refusing to be seated next to women. A pe...
replies 142Dec 5, 2017 8:45 PM +00:00

R140's worst nightmare! "Orthodox" IDF soldiers!
--Shazam eh?
replies 143Dec 5, 2017 8:45 PM +00:00

Fundamentalists Smash Bus After Woman Didn't Move to the Back

"Israeli police say they have arrested an ultra-Orthodox Jewish man for demanding women move to the back of a bus, sparking protests that saw bus windows sma...
replies 144Dec 5, 2017 8:46 PM +00:00
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This thread proves the cases for both gay supremacy and Jewish supremacy are fucking airtight.

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Israeli men are the world's hottest Jews, too.

replies 149Dec 5, 2017 8:49 PM +00:00

Ultra-Orthodox Jews Shun Their Own For Reporting Child Sexual Abuse

Why are ultra-orthodox Jews shunned if they report child sexual abuse in their own community? Ana Kasparian and Huffington Post Science Correspondent Cara Sa...
replies 150Dec 5, 2017 8:49 PM +00:00
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So hot...

Infants Contract Herpes From Oral Suction During Jewish Circumcision

"Two New York City infants were diagnosed with herpes after undergoing a traditional Orthodox Jewish circumcision, NBC4 reports. According to the Health Depa...
replies 152Dec 5, 2017 8:50 PM +00:00

Tel Aviv with the Municipal building lit up for Pride.
replies 153Dec 5, 2017 8:52 PM +00:00

Orthodox Jews are gross. Really, all very religious people are total sickies!

I've never met a very religious person who wasn't a morally conflicted wanker, and an impossible asshole.

Tax all churches! Quit rebranding all Americans as Zionists! We don't give a fuck.

replies 154Dec 5, 2017 8:52 PM +00:00

What the hell is wrong with this Matthew guy? Mental illness? drugs?

replies 155Dec 5, 2017 8:53 PM +00:00
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Orthodox Jew Plastic Bag Photo Going Viral

"An Orthodox Jewish plane passenger was seen wrapped in a plastic bag during a flight. It was believed the man is a Kohein, a religious descendant of the pri...
replies 157Dec 5, 2017 8:53 PM +00:00

Trump is powerful, but let us be clear. He was not able to make this decision without the approval of other states who have significant power in that region.

This decision was NOT made without the approval and coordination of the Sunni Arab states (Egypt, Jordan, and especially Saudi Arabia). I know that publicly they denounce the decision because they have to for their own public in their own countries, but they did allow this.

People have to understand the region is changing. It used to be all the Arab states hated and wanted to destroy Israel. They failed. But then something happened, Israel became a technological powerhouse and a master with intelligence. Now, the state they hated they need for their own security. The "moderate" Arab states have been working closer and closer with Israel because of it. Now, you have Iran which is on the war path and the mutual mortal enemy of Israel, Sauds, and Egypt. These Arab countries do NOT care about the Palestinians (let's be honest, they never have- they just used the Palestinians as pawns).

Because of the threat of Iran, now Saudi Arabia is working with Israel which was once the unthinkable. They want to work more openly with Israel but they can't until the Palestinian issue is resolved. That is why Egypt is trying to force Hamas and the PLO to unify, that is why SA summoned Abbas to the kingdom. They are pressuring them to make peace with Israel. This recognition of Jerusalem as the capital is another move to pressure the Palestinians that time is not on their side.

Read the New York Times report about the new crown prince of SA and the offer he made to Abbas. They don't WANT the Palestinians to have Jerusalem because they don't trust the Palestinians with it. They will burn it to the ground. Abbas was not happy and the response was "If you don't make peace with Israel you will be replaced with someone who will"

replies 158Dec 5, 2017 8:54 PM +00:00
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r155 Jews have by far the highest rates of ALL mental illnesses. It's from the incest, just like the need for glasses is from the incest. And notice how Jews drool a lot when they talk, like Bernie Sanders for example. That is another side-effect of 2,000 years of incest.

replies 161Dec 5, 2017 8:55 PM +00:00

I'm just fed up with the racism, sexism, antisemitism, homophobia and ableism of whites, heterosexuals, gentiles, and the neurotypical. We have reached the point where continuing to tolerate the oppressor classes makes you an enabler of oppression. After Charlottesville I have less than zero tolerance for any kind of antisemitism and I think it should be a capital crime.

replies 162Dec 5, 2017 8:56 PM +00:00

OK. Re: Matthew I'll be going with mental illness. Wow.

replies 163Dec 5, 2017 8:57 PM +00:00

Anti-Gay Orthodox Jews Hire Mexicans To Protest For Them At Gay Pride

"A group of Orthodox Jews hired Mexican day laborers to dress in traditional Jewish garb and protest against the New York City gay pride parade Sunday. A New...
replies 164Dec 5, 2017 8:57 PM +00:00

"Palestinian Pride"

Palestinian protesters whitewash rainbow flag from West Bank barrier Khaled Jarrar, a Palestinian artist, says he wanted to call attention to Israeli occupation at a time when gay rights are in news, but flag is labelled ‘shameful’

Jarrar, 39, who has exhibited his work in Europe and the US, told the Associated Press on Tuesday that the destruction “reflects the absence of tolerance and freedoms in the Palestinian society”.

Khaled Jarrar, a Palestinian artist, says he wanted to call attention to Israeli occupation at a time when gay rights are in news, but flag is labelled ‘shameful’
the Guardian
replies 165Dec 5, 2017 8:59 PM +00:00

Nice hasbara propaganda r158. You're doing a great job getting the Goyim to support another trillion dollar war for Israel.

replies 166Dec 5, 2017 9:00 PM +00:00
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Tel Aviv Pride!
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The region's second Pride city - Haifa!
replies 170Dec 5, 2017 9:05 PM +00:00

All of Israel belongs to the Jews. If you attempt to steal it from us that is an act of war.

--Jewish Pride! Gay Pride! Jewish Power! Gay Power!
replies 171Dec 5, 2017 9:06 PM +00:00

Haifa Pride!
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More Haifa Pride!
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That brings to a close the entertainment portion of our program. Wishing all of you bigoted cunts a Happy Channukah!
--r123 Entertainment Coordinator
replies 174Dec 5, 2017 9:15 PM +00:00

It's ridiculous that a nation can't decide for itself where its own capital is. It's time for the Arabs to get over it, but I guess they are like Hillary in that regard.

replies 175Dec 5, 2017 10:05 PM +00:00

Schumer says he advised Trump to declare Jerusalem as Israel's 'undivided' capital

Hooray for Bi-partisan foreign policy

Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer advised President Trump to declare Jerusalem as the "undivided" capital of Israel ahead of Trump's expected announcement on the matter this week, the New York Democrat told
replies 176Dec 5, 2017 10:23 PM +00:00

Schumer's Jewish fangs always come out.

replies 177Dec 5, 2017 10:33 PM +00:00

This warm and wet man will be the end of us all.

replies 178Dec 6, 2017 12:45 AM +00:00

The radical Islamic fringe must be pleased.

replies 179Dec 6, 2017 1:49 AM +00:00

You can post all the Tel Aviv pride parade pictures you like but that doesn’t change the fact that marchers in the Jerusalem pride are likely to be stabbed and killed by Orthodox scum as in 2015.

--Tony Woodard
replies 180Dec 6, 2017 6:41 AM +00:00

R180 You mean just like gays can be butchered in a bar by Muslim scum.

replies 181Dec 6, 2017 6:53 AM +00:00

R180 shut your antisemitic ass.

replies 182Dec 6, 2017 7:20 AM +00:00

Accept Nell Carter as your lord and savior, cracker breeder goyim, and shut the fuck up until that time.

NEW YORK The Orthodox Jewish world is even more fragmented than you think.
The Forward
replies 183Dec 6, 2017 7:20 AM +00:00

Is this what you call "orthodox scum" you racist goyim?

Rejecting Judaism is a form of whiteness. Whatever your race or sexuality, if you're not also a practicing Jew, then you might as just well be just another racist white redneck blaspheming against the Jewish God.

Eshel was formed when relatives of LGBT kids in conservative communities needed a safe space in a homophobic storm
replies 184Dec 6, 2017 7:24 AM +00:00

At this point, to actively reject both Judaism and Zionism makes you not only an enabler of racism but of homophobia as well.

All gays should be Zionists.

Steve Greenberg: How Orthodox Jews Changed Their Minds On Gay Rights Same-sex rights proponents suffered an unusual loss this week when a federal judge in Louisiana upheld the state's ban on gay marriage, bucking a domino-like chain of favorable rulings on the issue. Overall, 21 states have toppled bans since the Supreme Court struck down the Defense of Marriage Act in 2013--a trend that reflects a remarkable shift in pubic opinion. In general, Jews have been at the forefront of this shift: More than 80 percent of Jewish Americans now support gay marriage, according to a recent survey by the nonpartisan Public Religion Research Institute.
Moment Magazine - The Next 5,000 Years of Conversation Begin Here
replies 185Dec 6, 2017 7:26 AM +00:00

Matt, you need to take your meds again.

replies 186Dec 6, 2017 7:26 AM +00:00

Welcome to •

Yes, of course it’s possible to be gay and frum.

Here you’ll find information and resources.

What does the Torah actually say about homosexuality and sex? How can I reconcile being frum and gay? Are there other frum lesbian, gay, bi, or transgender Jews out there? If so, where are they? Check out the frequently asked questions (FAQ) page.

The Gay and Lesbian Yeshiva Day School Alumni Association (GLYDSA) was founded in 1994 to serve the needs of the Orthodox/traditional LGBT community. For more information and upcoming events, click the GLYDSA button.
replies 187Dec 6, 2017 7:27 AM +00:00

Whisper It, but Israel’s ultra-Orthodox Community Is Starting to Talk About Homosexuality

Observers say there is a growing understanding among many Haredim that the previously taboo subject can no longer be ignored

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The HAVRUTA – RELIGIOUS GAYS NGO (ISRAEL) is a religious community of gay men who belong to the religious society and work together to achieve tolerance and acceptance to LGBT individuals in the religious society.
replies 189Dec 6, 2017 7:32 AM +00:00

The worst Jew is still a better person than the best gentile, just as the worst homosexual is still better than the best homosexual and the worst person of color is still better than the best Aryan.

replies 190Dec 6, 2017 7:32 AM +00:00

Just ignore him guys. It's shitty that people are trying to have a serious thread and this asshole is posting spam.

replies 191Dec 6, 2017 7:33 AM +00:00
The HAVRUTA – RELIGIOUS GAYS NGO (ISRAEL) is a religious community of gay men who belong to the religious society and work together to achieve tolerance and acceptance to LGBT individuals in the religious society.

They can start by just saying gay instead of el-jibbity.

replies 192Dec 6, 2017 7:33 AM +00:00

R191, the more you ignore the warnings about the current threats to the well-being of gays, Jews, and people of color, the worse they will get.

replies 193Dec 6, 2017 7:33 AM +00:00

Oh, yawn, Matt's back and off his meds again.

replies 194Dec 6, 2017 7:38 AM +00:00

Rabin was a traitor to the Jews.

replies 195Dec 6, 2017 7:39 AM +00:00
Just ignore him guys. It's shitty that people are trying to have a serious thread and this asshole is posting spam.

That's one of Matt's favorite tactics: to shut down a thread he doesn't like by spamming it repeatedly.

replies 196Dec 6, 2017 7:40 AM +00:00

Racist goy Uncle Tom Tony Woodard exposed the genocidal racism of the gentile death cults with this vile hate speech:

The best thing that could happen for this world would be for Netanyahu and the rest of the Zionist vermin to be killed en masse. They assassinated Rabin and deserve no better, filthy dogs.
You can post all the Tel Aviv pride parade pictures you like but that doesn’t change the fact that marchers in the Jerusalem pride are likely to be stabbed and killed by Orthodox scum as in 2015.

Congratulations, not only do you prove black people can be racist, but you're basically Hitler in blackface.

Goyism is whiteness and whiteness is racism. Antizionism is antisemitism is racism is a capital crime. Convert to Judaism and stop being a racist goy piece of shit.

replies 197Dec 6, 2017 7:42 AM +00:00

Yes, you are racist Tony Woodard, as are all goyim of all races and sexual orientations.

replies 198Dec 6, 2017 7:43 AM +00:00

It is very clear this was coordinated with the Sauds.

The Arab states are getting tired of the Palestinians bullshit. I'm sorry, but it's true. They have rejected a state 7 times and still complain about how unhappy they are. They need to get over it. The Jewish people are indigenous to that land. They had a state a there, it was destroyed. They spent 2,000 years trying to rebuild it and they did. It is a miracle that no other ancient civilization has ever done. I just wish Israel had been re-established sooner. It is true there were then Arabs there, the Jews were willing to share the land and have two states living side by side, the Arabs did not. They want to push the Jews into the sea. They lost. Deservedly.

This is a move to help pressure the Palestinians to accept reality.

replies 199Dec 6, 2017 7:44 AM +00:00

People are just jealous of Orthodox Jewish wealth. It's not their fault that they're really good at receiving welfare and free housing, while working under the table in the diamond mafia, and laundering the money...

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R22 WTF? Germany leads Europe and is an economic superpower today. Spain started its empire after Jews and Muslims were kicked out of Spain.

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Goyism is racism and blacks who perpetuate the evil lies of goyism are as racist as whites.

Antizionism is a form of white supremacy. Hitler was antizionist and pro-Muslim. Don't be like Hitler. Be like the Jews. Be a Jew, and be a gay Jew.
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[R22] WTF? Germany leads Europe and is an economic superpower today.

They're just the smartest kid in the special needs class. If it weren't for Jews and gay people, humans would be just another animal and Germany is proof of that. With gays and Jews in it, they thrive. Without us, they die.

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Blacks who reject Judaism are as racist as whites, Latinos, Asians, and Arabs who do the same. All forms of non-Jewish religious faith are blasphemous and enable racism, sexism, antisemitism, homophobia, and ableism.

Free your mind from the slavery of the gentile death cults and embrace the Jewish God.

When an anti-Zionist burns an......
The Times of Israel
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Germany leads Europe and is an economic superpower today. Spain started its empire after Jews and Muslims were kicked out of Spain.

Germany is a dying country mired in a social, political and cultural quagmire for which it has no solution. Spain is coming apart, while living off the wealth of richer EU countries.

replies 205Dec 6, 2017 7:52 AM +00:00

If they had been nicer to the Jews and less accommodating of Muslim bigotry, this would not be happening.

replies 206Dec 6, 2017 8:09 AM +00:00

Maybe we can now have an honest discussion about the islamic appropriation of Judaism and Christianity, cultural appropriation, the islamic conquest, and the islamic colonization/occupation of countries from Spain to the Philippines for hundreds of years.

Islam is and never was about peace. It has always been about war, enslavement, submission, conversion and the destruction of anything non-islamic.

Fuck them.

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The is the number one readers comment to the NYT's article about Trump recognizing Jerusalem as the capital with 693 votes. I am shocked by it's anti-Israel content. For the record, I am a non-Jewish, big supporter for many reasons, I thought the sentiments below were not the norm for most Americans....

America First has to mean America First, not Israel First when it's convenient.

This announcement is going to isolate the United States and place its citizens at risk of terrorism and violence, both at home and when traveling abroad. All for what? A couple of super-rich individuals of Jewish descent who buy our politicians?

Israel is a burden on the vast majority of Americans who have zero interests in the tiny portion of Palestine occupied by Israelis.

We need to cut all foreign aid to Israel -- which enjoys a standard of living better than many EU member states -- and redirect it to children starving and dying from malaria in sub-Saharan Africa.

I'm sick and tired of this "ally" burdening our country.

Sink or swim on your own, Bibi.

replies 208Dec 6, 2017 1:35 PM +00:00

R207, most religions have committed atrocities throughout history. The Catholics had the Inquisition, the Puritans the witch trials, Bloody Mary, etc.

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R208, thanks for sharing.

That comment is not the norm. The fact is for all the threats about anti-Israel sentiment, Israel has 71% from Americans. 71% of a positive image. That is big and bipartisan.

Israel is a beautiful country. The Jewish people reconstituted their nation state, which they have ever right to have. It also happened to be an amazing ally of the US that shares invaluable intelligence, technology, and humanitarian aid around the world to make the world a better place. I cannot imagine what it is like to be literally surrounded with terrorists and evil as your neighbors, when we are so lucky to have Canada and Mexico.

It's hard because I hate Trump, and Jews overwhelmingly vote Democrat, but this was the right thing to do. Israel and the Jewish people deserve this recognition after 3,000 years. I'm tired of the people who claim this won't help peace. The Arabs were murdering the Jews BEFORE Israel was recreated in 1948. It's not about Jerusalem or Israel. It is about an Arab (Muslim) culture that wants the Jews dead. They failed. They can kill Christians, and gays, and Yazidis, and women who defy their husbands all around the Middle East, but they have failed to destroy the Jewish people. The Jews said "Never Again" and meant it. It's the one group they can't seem to beat.

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Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. That fact was not discovered by our odious President. What he has discovered is that he can take the spotlight off his legal and impeachable problems by grandstanding on this one. I doubt this move will aid the cause of peace. Trump would have made a real contribution (and actually done some work) by pressuring his friends the Saudis to stop publicly demanding the elimination of the Jewish state.

I think this one is an ego stroke for Jarred. Prior to the presidency, his family was tarnished when it saw its patriarch go from big-shot to felon. Now, at least, whatever happens with Mueller, Jarred can pose as the new King David who "reinstated" Jerusalem as Israel's capital. Like everything in this administration, this is all self-serving light and mirrors.

replies 211Dec 6, 2017 1:49 PM +00:00

R209, the Inquisition killed about 4,000 people. The major difference is that the directive to commit atrocities are given by the islamic god. The islamic foundational texts have an unbelievable number of incitements to violence, as ordered by the islamic god. The Old Testament violence is largely historic The New Testament has no incitement to violence, quite the opposite. Christianity spread peacefully for 300 years until Constantine.

The founder of islam was a war lord and mass murderer. His followers are expected to emulate him. The islamic conquest is responsible for about 250 million deaths and counting, the enslavement of between 25 and 25 million Africans and 2 millions Europeans. More people are slaves now in all of the history of mankind, primarily in muslim countries.

There is really no comparison between islam and other religions. Just compare their founders to see the differences.

replies 212Dec 6, 2017 2:08 PM +00:00

Fuck yourself, R212 and all the other uber-Menschen, war-loving (as long as someone else fights and pays for it) Zionists.


--Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Libya, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, and ???
replies 213Dec 6, 2017 2:37 PM +00:00

Prediction: The Third Temple will soon be rebuilt.

replies 214Dec 6, 2017 10:38 PM +00:00

R214, If there was a way so that no non-Muslim would get killed for it, I would love to just see them knock that mosque to the ground, just to see the look on some of the Palestinians faces.


replies 215Dec 6, 2017 10:42 PM +00:00

Third Prophecy Against Gog.

1 You, son of man, prophesy against Gog, saying: Thus says the Lord GOD: Here I am, Gog, coming at you, chief prince of Meshech and Tubal. 2 I will turn you around, even though I urged you on and brought you up from the recesses of Zaphon and let you attack the mountains of Israel. 3 Then I will strike the bow from your left hand and make the arrows drop from your right. 4 Upon the mountains of Israel you shall fall, you and all your troops and the peoples with you. I will give you as food to birds of prey of every kind and to wild beasts to be eaten. 5 In the open field you shall fall, for I have spoken—oracle of the Lord GOD.

6 I will send fire against Magog and against those who live securely on the seacoast, and they will know that I am the LORD. 7 I will reveal my holy name among my people Israel, and I will never again allow my holy name to be defiled. Then the nations shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One of Israel. 8 Yes, it is coming! It shall happen—oracle of the Lord GOD. This is the day I decreed.

9 Everyone living in the cities of Israel shall go out and set fire to the weapons, buckler and shield, bows and arrows, clubs and spears; for seven years they shall make fires with them. 10 They will not need to bring in wood from the fields or cut down trees in the forests, for they will make fires with the weapons, plundering those who plundered them, pillaging those who pillaged them—oracle of the Lord GOD.

11 On that day I will give Gog a place for his tomb in Israel, the Valley of Abarim, east of the sea. It will block the way of travelers. There Gog shall be buried with all his horde; it shall be called “Valley of Hamon-Gog.” 12 For seven months the house of Israel shall bury them in order to cleanse the land. 13 All the people of the land shall take part in the burials, making a name for themselves on the day I am glorified—oracle of the Lord GOD. 14 Men shall be permanently assigned to pass through the land, burying those who lie unburied in order to cleanse the land. For seven months they shall keep searching. 15 When these pass through the land and see a human bone, they must set up a marker beside it, until the gravediggers bury it in the Valley of Hamon-Gog. 16 Also the name of the city is Hamonah. Thus the land will be cleansed.

17 As for you, son of man, thus says the Lord GOD: Say to birds of every kind and to every wild beast: “Assemble! Come from all sides for the sacrifice I am making for you, a great slaughter on the mountains of Israel. You shall eat flesh and drink blood! 18 You shall eat the flesh of warriors and drink the blood of the princes of the earth: rams, lambs, and goats, bulls and fatlings from Bashan, all of them. 19 From the sacrifice I slaughtered for you, you shall eat fat until you are sated and drink blood until you are drunk. 20 At my table you shall be sated with horse and rider, with warrior and soldier of every kind—oracle of the Lord GOD.

--Ezekiel 39
replies 216Dec 6, 2017 10:50 PM +00:00

Israel’s Return.

21 Then I will display my glory among the nations, and all the nations will see the judgment I executed, the hand I laid upon them. 22 From that day forward the house of Israel shall know that I am the LORD, their God. 23 The nations shall know that the house of Israel went into exile because of its sins. Because they betrayed me, I hid my face from them, handing them over to their foes, so they all fell by the sword. 24 According to their defilement and their crimes I dealt with them, hiding my face from them.

25 Therefore, thus says the Lord GOD: Now I will restore the fortunes of Jacob and take pity on the whole house of Israel; I am zealous for my holy name. 26 They will forget their shame and all the infidelities they committed against me when they live securely on their own land with no one to frighten them. 27 When I bring them back from the nations and gather them from the lands of their enemies, I will show my holiness through them in the sight of many nations. 28 Thus they shall know that I, the LORD, am their God, since I who exiled them among the nations will gather them back to their land, not leaving any of them behind. 29 I will no longer hide my face from them once I pour out my spirit upon the house of Israel—oracle of the Lord GOD.

replies 217Dec 6, 2017 10:51 PM +00:00