Laurie Metcalf wins!
Saw it yesterday - loved it. Well deserved. Chalamet is deserving for that long last (and difficult) shot alone.
Is he an underage kid in the film?
I saw MUDBOUND and LADYBIRD, and would have chosen Blige over Metcalf.
No, asswipe at R3. He's 17, which is the age of consent in most states. Not to mention the fact that the film takes place in Italy.
Great, now I can look forward to "L.A. Film Critics declare Call Me by Your Name best film of 2017, Part 36"
The wrong film at the absolute wrong time.
Piss off R7. The relationship in the film is consensual and legal. Take your obsession with pedos elsewhere.
You just know the right-wingers will be carrying on about this.
Why are you so angry, r8?
R10 DLers are usually angry, haven't you noticed?
R5 I don't get the age complaints either. Here in Europe, my 15-year old girlfriends were always boasting about dating guys over twenty and kept saying how they can't wait to turn 16 to get fucked legally. And yet people lose their shit over a 17-year old guy who is about to start university in a year getting off? Talk about misplaced hand-wringing.
Do people honestly believe guys should only start having sex at the stroke of midnight when they turn 18? Because that's totally not how the human body works. I was performing on cam at 15, begging strangers to come and fuck me, while my libido was completely subdued even before I hit 18.
Having said all that, I still think it would make more business sense to age him up a year or two.
don't forget to mention THIS tiny detail:-
WINNER: Timothée Chalamet — Call Me by Your Name
"Why are you so angry, [R8]?"
It's not anger really, just annoyance at all of the marys here trashing and misrepresenting the film based on projecting their anxieties about Spacey, etc.
I was performing on cam at 15, begging strangers to come and fuck me
You know you're just helping prove the opposite point by mentioning that, right?
It reads as anger. You might want to work on that, r14.
This movie is not showing yet in the Canadian city where I live. I'd love to see it and hope it gets here soon!
The wrong film at the absolute wrong time.
Kind of odd that the critics have decided to honor it, then.
Anyone found a working streaming version of CMBYN? My Kodi lists it, but no stream available yet.
Happy for Twink O'Tay. He's about to become famous.
Oh, joy. Another CMBYN thread! How original! How unique!
Really happy for Laurie Metcalf. I hope she wins the Oscar.
Oh, joy. Another CMBYN thread! How original! How unique!
Like YOU, dear.
Does he pronounce his name Timothy, or the French Teem-oh-tay ?
Go fuck a peach, DEAR, R23.
Saw Three Billboards today. Sam Rockwell will get an Oscar nod, for sure. He plays a jerk, but by the end, you have sympathy for him.
Go fuck a peach, DEAR, [R23].
I see you came back to see how well your little message had been received, dear.
& I'm sure you'll be back again.
My cousin’s mother’s friend saw CMBYN in L.A., and she said it was very heartbreaking and emotional. I’m so scared to watch it, because I won’t be able to deal with my emotions. I went insane after watching Brokeback Mountain.
Something they will definitely come to regret R18.
I went insane after watching Brokeback Mountain.
What form did this insanity take?
He's 17, which is the age of consent in most states. Yeah, any state where a newspaper isn't published... I personally didn't care for CMBYN anyway (definitely not my choice for a best anything), but yes, given how INCREDIBLY close it is to the headlines, a very short sighted choice.
I got that it was completed before all the Spacey/Levine/your-name-here headlines, but bizarre for the critics to trumpet the film. Definitely an unnecessary backfire.
FWIW, I thought all the acting was fine.
R29 sounds like you're hoping for the film to fail somehow.
Stuhlbarg is more fun to say.
No, asswipe at [R3]. He's 17, which is the age of consent in most states. Not to mention the fact that the film takes place in Italy.
Where the age of consent is 14 but they don't have gay marriage yet.
I thought Italy got gay marriage a couple years ago, but now that I think about it, I'm probably thinking of Spain.
Good. It's great film.
Last year the winner was Moonlight. The year before Spotlight. The year before that Boyhood.
At least they're not giving it to one-word movies anymore.
Does this mean that CMBYN definitely has the Spirit Award for Best Feature?
Also, the last four films to win the Best Feature Spirit all went on to win the Oscar for Best Picture (Moonlight, Spotlight, Birdman, 12 Years a Slave), so that's something to consider, no?
R12 Not one of my female friends was dying to get "fucked" by a 25-year-old guy when we were 14 and 15 but nice fantasy. The only kids "dating" men that old were the messed up girls from abusive homes, one very rebellious girl, and girls coerced into sex by the history teacher who was eventually fired.
Well....it was no "Nuts," let me tell you. That was a film; that was great ACTING!
R5 = Pervert. He looks about 14.
R42 Gets it.
He's 22 in less than three weeks.
He hardly looks it though, does he R46? I have to admit, some of the pics of Armie and Timothee do make me feel a bit uncomfortable, especially the one where they're both shirtless - TC looks underdeveloped in that particular one, not helped by Armie looking older than he is.
He looks his age to me. Yes he looks younger when standing next to Armie, who is 6'5". But otherwise no, he has a skinny body type but he's clearly an adult and is six feet tall himself.
I mean I don't think he looks 14 there no, but sure he looks younger than his age. But in the context of the film once you've already seen him walking around being taller than his parents, speaking with a deep voice, having sex with a girl etc. you don't see him as a child in that or any other scene.
R44 the age of consent in Italy, where the story is set, is 14. All your points are moot.
I mean I don't think he looks 14 there no, but sure he looks younger than his age
Well, given I never said I thought he looked 14, I'm not sure what the point of the first half of that sentence was.
Are they Italian citizens in the movie, R51?
What's more it doesn't matter how old they look. They were 20 and 29 when they filmed. They could fuck all day and night if they wanted to and no one would be able to say anything about it. Chalamet is going to look like that for a long time unless he starts working out. He'll still be having plenty of sex with other fully grown adults I'm sure.
17 is also legal in something like 40 US states.
Surely the sign of a solid argument is when you keep needing to add to it, like R50/R54 just did.
What's more it doesn't matter how old they look
Are you actually an idiot? When you have people like Corey Feldman going around saying this promotes pedophilia, it absolutely matters. Because people will google the film, see photos like this, and make a judgement. And yes, those people are ignorant, but there are a lot of them. And if the Singer story breaks, they're fucked. Especially because of his fondness for the "he may look like a kid, but he's legal" argument.
R55 Lmao at people like Corey Feldman. The man is mentally ill and abuses women.
People trying really hard to make controversy happen are so fucking tedious.
Don't know how some of you leave the house if it disturbs you to see two adults with a 9 year age difference together.
Oscars still don't like 'the gay'. They only recently came to terms with blacks and, to some extent, women. Give them a couple of decades.
Aw, R58, unable to actually argue any points so needing to resort to ad hominem attacks. I do like how you post a response, then go away for a few moments to stew, and then return to post again almost immediately, trying to dismiss the entire argument.
Better not let some of you watch the flirty interviews of Chalamet and Hammer, you'd be calling the cops on Hammer for pedophilia.
They only recently came to terms with blacks and, to some extent, women
You need to throw a "pretended" in there
They loved the gay enough to give that beach handjob an award.
Ah, shitposting now. Surely the mark of someone who feels confident in their argument, eh.
As if y'all don't watch porn with twinks that look as old as Chalamet.
Map that shows age of consent in US. Blue is 16, gold is 17, and green is 18. Curiously, there is "no data available" for Texas.
You're embarrassing yourself (even more) now.
There's no reason they couldn't have just made him 18 for the film. They cut the peach-eating because they thought it'd be too much, so don't give me "faithful to the book" excuses. Would've also been helpful if Armie actually looked 24, but Luca decided to let his dick do the casting there.
Oh and introducing Timothee to a gym would've helped too.
Yes, an Italian filmmaker should succumb to the whims of Americans.
why should they have made him 18? There's nothing ilegal being depicted. Jfc this is an exhaustingly dumb conversation.
Love how this film was released in October in the UK and literally no one gave a fuck about the ages. America stays being absurd.
why should they have made him 18?
Because the controversy that is being caused was extremely predictable and could've been easily side-stepped by making a small change. Why is it so important he remains 17?
Jfc this is an exhaustingly dumb conversation
Then I'm sure you feel right at home.
Linking to known troll Armond White and the National Review. True desperation.
The controversy of a bunch of ridiculous weirdos should have forced that 1-year change that serves literally no purpose (again, there's nothing wrong or ilegal about the character being 17) othen than to calm said weirdos. For sure, it's very reasonable.
R71 Because only around 100,000 people went to see it, and it got little press attention.
R76 it's still running in the UK, attention has been more than fair.
R75 How would the change have hurt the story? Would it have had any negative effects at all?
R76 It's still on in UK cinemas. And it got a slew of 5* reviews and 3 sold out showings at London Film Festival where it was received extremely enthusiastically.
An Italian should not have to change his own film to please Americans. Guadagnino seems unbothered about the controversy.
R79 Wow, you mean movie people were aware of a new movie? Astonishing. They had little mainstream coverage, on none of the main chatshows, etc. And it isn't running at any of the cinemas near me anymore.
Again, R78 WHY should have it been changed? There's nothing wrong or ilegal about Elio being 17 and in a relationship with an older man. This controversy is RIDICULOUS, nobody fucking cares other than a really annoying minority of hysterical hypocrites.
don't feed the pedo trolls
R83 Reading comprehension not your strongest? I've already said, because it would help bypass an extremely predictable controversy, and do so without in anyway hurting the story being told. Now you tell me why is it so vital he remains at 17?
Only you guys care about the 'controversy' though.
Nobody relevant cares about this "controversy".
Only you guys
Telling in several ways
R87 Says someone who lives in an echo chamber.
Everyone likes to have this image of Hollywood being super liberal, but a lot of the executives - and notably Academy voters - aren't. This controversy stands a chance of hurting Timothee's Oscar chances. Sure, it's nice to think we live in a world of idealism where the only thing that matters is talent. We don't. And if something does happen with Singer or someone like him, or if enough people think giving CMBYN an Oscar win will give them bad stories the next day on Fox News, it could change votes.
This is about the Emmys, but you should read it to get an idea of how people *actually* vote for awards like these.
Elio is well above the age of consent to have relations with an adult person but he's underage in that he's still under the care of his parents and his life is on the brink of adulthood for most intents and purposes. That's why he's a teenager in the novel, that's why he's a teenager in the film-- he doesn't think he's being taken seriously at times because he's at that awkward child-to-adult stage. You may argue that it's not so terribly vital for the character to be under 18, despite this being very helpful in a coming-of-age story, but it's not like you can seriously insist that it's arbitrary and pointless to keep him being 17 in the movie.
It's you who keep saying it's a controversial choice where most people are only seeing a love story.
Chalamet's category is empty and rumors are a Franco expose is coming so it may about to be even more so. They're not going to punish him for any controversy related to this movie anyway, it would make no sense. Jessica Chastain still got nominated amongst the Zero Dark Thirty controversy.
And he was never going to win against Gary Oldman.
So it won't win him an Oscar, and the problem is... ? He's already being awarded and extensively complimented, the film's getting nearly unanymous rave reviews everywhere. Again, the power this "controversy" is having is negligible at most.
Him being 18 would change none of that, R90. That was a reach.
And no, I didn't say it was a controversial choice. I said they could've avoided controversy by making a change. There's a fairly large difference between the two. The fact you need to try and twist my words like that just speaks volumes.
Fine then, R91/R92, have it your way, this controversy is absolutely nothing. Of course, that raises the question of it is nothing - why have you been arguing about it with me? If it's so pointless and meaningless and no-one of any relevance cares - why have you been bothering to respond? Odd, no?
Stopped reading at 'fine then, have it your way'. I will.
R94 I'm bothering to respond because you're coming here to talk about it, so I suppose you want responses? lol but yes, I find it completely irrelevant as do the vast majority of critics, professionals and audience. The film's doing great, most people are loving it which is cool because I happen to love it as well. The fact that I'm willing to talk about that almost-nonexistant controversy, because this is a message board and that's what we do, doesn't imply that I give a shit.
Congrats Call Me By Your Name on your 8 Critics Choice Award nominations!
Who ever said that Hollywood wasn’t tone deaf? If it weren’t for the news exposures, Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey would still be running around raping people while Hollywood covered it up for them.
Anthony Rapp - Kevin Spacey's accuser - is a fan of the film.
CMBYN has been running for weeks in Edinburgh, and the showing yesterday was still sold out. Many of the audience were young women who I presume are into Timmy and Armie. It's a terrific film.
Many of the audience were young women who I presume are into Timmy and Armie
So, matching the threads on here, then?
Curzon Soho (London) was almost sold out on friday at 3:45 after 5 weeks running.
Yes word of mouth has sustained in the UK and it is doing well.
Seems odd you only just remembered that, R102, and not almost an hour ago when you first brought up British cinemas.
R104 I'm responding to the poster who brought up Edinburgh, a specific case. Since I was there on friday, I wanted to add to that. How sketchy, huh?
R105 lmao so sketchy! How dare you make up stuff about people wanting to see this movie!
R100 R102 R103 That's great to hear. Hopefully the movie does well at BAFTA awards too.
Oh trust me, I don't need sympathy from someone whose life is apparently empty enough that they have time to post about things over which they "don't give a shit"
My life is empty and meaningless because I deign talk about things that I don't care about and that I find ridiculous, you're onto me Dr. Armchair Therapist R109 . The fact remains that the film is doing extremely well and this thread is about the fact that the L.A. film critics love it as much as many of us do.
Feel free to be over tyhe top and melodramatic on one of the other threads you and yours are opening trying to make the controversy gain any sort of momentum.
Do tell me what I've said that is over-the-top or melodramatic. I've said I find some of the images somewhat uncomfortable because Timothee does look questionably young in some, especially compared with how old Armie looks (which you've agreed with). And I've expressed concern that this could harm Timothee's and the film's chances with Academy voters. I suggested the rightwing reaction could've been predicted and avoided by one little change. So, what exactly there is so over-the-top?
As for this being a thread for LA Film Critics awards - well that wasn't exactly necessary was it? It could've quite easily gone in the general CMBYN thread, but some fool decided they needed to create a new thread, so it feels fitting to shit on their thread by diverting it this way.
Wops are depraved if they allow adults to fuck teenagers but don't have gay marriage.
Everywhere in the world allows adults to fuck teenagers idiot.
Their age of consent is 14. Before they started fucking with the food supply, puberty was ages 13-16 for most people.
LA film critics have taste.
R112 has no friends. F&F him the prissy hall monitor who thinks he can decide what is or isn’t needed for a thread.
R118 Or what is or isn't needed for a film.
Is r112 the Loon? Kind of sounds like it. Hey r112, how do you like Mary Poppins?
LA film critics have taste.
Bad taste is a type of taste, technically speaking.
LAFCA always have great taste.
Now that CMBYN has won several top critic awards and been nominated for 8 Critics Choice Awards (including 3 acting nods) and gaining steam as we speak, expect a lot of bad-mouthing about it and its actors. Oscar season and all that.
Who could ever bad-mouth Michael Stuhlbarg?
Mrs. Michael Stuhlbarg
R125 a poster on one of the previous CMBYN threads stated that he had known Stuhlbarg once upon a time and was apparently insufferable, believing himself to be better than the average person. Now, don't shoot the messenger. Just reporting that there is at least one person who bad-mouthed him.
The critical bias in favor of anything Italian worries me.
R128 how do you mean?
When you consider what a backwards and reactionary people they are, it bothers me to see everything they do put on a pedestal.
And consider how they are under the thumb of an anti-gay death cult that allied with Hitler and is still trying to marginalize us any way they can.
I'm tired of seeing the art and culture of non-Jewish white people put on a pedestal, and I'm tired of gentiles getting all the press in gay culture.
complete bullshit (r131) Italy is not under the thumb on any religion
"Roman Catholics and other Christians make up 80 percent of the population, though only one-third of those are practicing Catholics. The country also has a growing Muslim immigrant community, according to the University of Michigan. Muslim, agnostic and atheist make up the other 20 percent of the population"
So only 26% of Italians (80%x33%) are practicing catholics, ergo 74% of italians are non practicing catholic, other religions or agnostic/atheist, and is probably much higher among the younger generations.
meanwhile in "freedom of church and state"USA the republican party controls all three branches of government and endlessly caters to religious christian fanatics and hypocrites.
Spain's demographic makeup is really similar to that of Italy regarding catholicism and the influence of the Church, yet gay marriage and adoption were approved many years ago. Mediterranean culture, although full of contradictions, is far more open-minded and relaxed that most people give it credit for.