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"Stranger Things 2" (Season Two) Thread

Who is watching? Post predictions and assorted commentary here.

The final trailer for Stranger Things 2 is here. The world turns Upside Down on October 27. Watch Stranger Things on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/8...
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--Anonymous
replies 479Oct 22, 2017 5:13 AM +00:00

Drops Friday, October 27th.

--Anonymous
replies 1Oct 22, 2017 6:03 AM +00:00

I'll probably skip it. I thought the first season was mediocre. Great acting, but incoherent storytelling that didn't follow its own internal logic.

--Anonymous
replies 2Oct 22, 2017 6:08 AM +00:00

I will! Hope it is as good as Season One!

--Anonymous
replies 3Oct 23, 2017 8:10 AM +00:00

My prediction: Season two will be a colossal letdown and permanently damage the show's reputation. The seasons following it will be better but the hype will be long gone and thus will never fully return to the glory days of the first season.

--Anonymous
replies 4Oct 23, 2017 8:29 AM +00:00

Will Barb return?

--Anonymous
replies 5Oct 23, 2017 8:31 AM +00:00

They chose a strange release date with October 27.

They should have released it on October 1st.

--Anonymous
replies 6Oct 23, 2017 8:34 AM +00:00

R6 I get the feeling they figured people will be gathering together for costume/Halloween parties and might watch it together in groups.

--Anonymous
replies 7Oct 23, 2017 8:36 AM +00:00

Yes, I love to put on a costume and sit around a room with a bunch of other people in costumes and watch teevee.

--As long as I am taking very, very heavy drugs.
replies 8Oct 23, 2017 8:46 AM +00:00

R4 I also have a bad feeling about this one, especially after the last trailer which was a massive letdown in my view. I hope I'm wrong, though.

--Anonymous
replies 9Oct 23, 2017 8:47 AM +00:00

It got a B from the AV Club.

I was certain I heard somewhere that critics wouldn't be getting screeners of the second season in advance but I guess that info was wrong.

There’s an invasion descending upon Hawkins, Indiana, and it begins with the big, glowering figure intruding on Stranger Things’ beloved opening title sequence: That giant “2” flashing into view just before the Stephen King-biting typography locks into place. As Entertainment Weekly reported ahead of the supernatural Netflix thriller’s new installment, Stranger Things creators Matt and Ross Duffer “envisioned the return as not so much a second season but a movie sequel. To that end, when the show comes back it will have the cinematic moniker Stranger Things 2.” Never mind that this needlessly re-opens debates of primacy between TV or film, or that it re-inflames the inferiority complex underlining statements like “Game Of Thrones isn’t a TV show, it’s a 73-hour movie,” or that there’s precedent for this sequential naming convention in the likes of Prime Suspect or Blackadder. It’s obnoxious, but it fits: To follow up the sleeper hit of 2016, the Duffer brothers followed in the footsteps of other filmmakers attempting to top their own blockbusters.
The A.V. Club
--Anonymous
replies 10Oct 23, 2017 11:45 AM +00:00

Sepinwall liked Season 2

‘Stranger Things 2’ Is A Sequel That Mostly Lives Up To The Original
Uproxx TV critic Alan Sepinwall reviews the second season of Netflix's surprise hit.
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--Anonymous
replies 11Oct 24, 2017 6:20 AM +00:00

Will Winona give the same horrendous performance she did in Season 1?

--Anonymous
replies 12Oct 24, 2017 6:34 AM +00:00

I couldn’t get into season 1 and I was so excited when I originally heard about this show

--womp...womp
replies 13Oct 24, 2017 6:36 AM +00:00

I'm only going to be watching because I like the boyfriend. Not the older brother who looks like he's got Progeria, the guy the anorexic chick was dating at the beginning.

--Anonymous
replies 14Oct 24, 2017 6:45 AM +00:00

I'm actually worried about it keeping so much of before. My ideal image of a second season was something in between keeping everything and being an anthology. Like, move out of the same town but instead move to a city, keep some of the characters but leave others behind (at least until a third or fourth season), etc. Tap into fan favorites without dragging too long with specific things just around for nostalgia (which runs out anyway; see how they're moving out of D&D and onto Ghostbusters at least).

--Anonymous
replies 15Oct 24, 2017 10:12 AM +00:00

i really have 0 interest in a bunch of kids doing shit. i did watch the 1st one and i still had little interest then.

a hard NO.

--Anonymous
replies 16Oct 24, 2017 10:18 AM +00:00

One of the ugly kids is now doing Verizon Fios commercials. He annoys me.

--Anonymous
replies 17Oct 24, 2017 10:18 AM +00:00

Winona's got a new wig for season 2!

--Anonymous
replies 18Oct 24, 2017 10:00 PM +00:00

a new wig??? REALLY????

still

a unbreakable hard NAY

--Anonymous
replies 19Oct 25, 2017 12:45 AM +00:00

Sean Astin sucked hard on The Strain so I hope he's either improved his acting since or that he won't be around for long.

--Anonymous
replies 20Oct 25, 2017 4:48 AM +00:00

First episode started with heavy handed music and when it turned more serious it got much better.

I hope Sean Astin dies soon and Paul Reiser ain’t no Matthew Modine.

Still at the end Of chapter 1 I was crying like a baby. I love this show so much.

--Anonymous
replies 21Oct 27, 2017 2:53 AM +00:00

Chapter 3 is very good. Not even directed by the brothers.

Winona is better this year. I’m liking Nancy also after I was sincerely worried about the actress being too thin. David Harbour could lose a few pounds. Barb is getting a storyline but I assume she doesn’t appear.

Astin is playing an annoying character too convincingly. He is much better in chapter 3.

--Anonymous
replies 22Oct 27, 2017 5:52 AM +00:00

The hot blonde bully has strange hair I can’t stop staring at. It’s like they gave him a mullet but changed it with CGI maybe because in IT there was also a hot blonde bully with a mullet.

Is anyone else watching? The last 3 responses have been me. What is wrong with you people?

--Anonymous
replies 23Oct 27, 2017 9:12 AM +00:00
Is anyone else watching? The last 3 responses have been me. What is wrong with you people?

It is the middle of the afternoon on a weekday...?

--Anonymous
replies 24Oct 27, 2017 9:14 AM +00:00

I am off on Friday plus taking Monday off for my Birthday. I envy those who have normal work days.

--Anonymous
replies 25Oct 27, 2017 9:26 AM +00:00

Finished it just now. I still wish this was a weekly show because I skipped a lot of the dialogue even though I've been waiting for over a year for another instalment. Just couldn't help myself.

Anyway, this was in my opinion neither better nor worse than the first season; it was on the exact same level of quality. Which is extremely rare for any show to achieve, especially a show as hyped as this one. I enjoyed it from beginning to end, even the New York detour.

I just wish they had made the young Zac Effron homosexual. Being excluded from this is really starting to bum me out.

--Anonymous
replies 26Oct 27, 2017 2:39 PM +00:00

Eleven goes by "El" now... Cute

--Anonymous
replies 27Oct 27, 2017 4:25 PM +00:00

Sean Astin has officially become a FAT FUCK

--Anonymous
replies 28Oct 27, 2017 6:31 PM +00:00

Look back to his body in 'Toy Soldiers", and wonder at how far he's fallen.

--Anonymous
replies 29Oct 27, 2017 7:05 PM +00:00

My God, how many Negroes can they manage to cram into this shit show??

--Anonymous
replies 30Oct 27, 2017 7:14 PM +00:00

Fuck off, racist pig at R30.

So, the hot blonde bully with the mullet .... is totally gay, right? Obviously a closet case, but he was checking out Steve pretty hard in that shower scene, and seeing the bulge Steve was sporting in his jeans later on I can see why. I thought at first he might have been abusing the redhead little girl, but I'm guessing he's her stepbrother or something? I'm only up to ep 5.

The stuff they are putting Will and Eleven through is really horrific, though. One could say that Will's storyline where he's being haunted by the Upside Down place is an analogy to being sexually abused. He has all the signs and the PTSD. It's really quite disturbing, especially that scene at the end of the fourth episode. Jesus.

--Anonymous
replies 31Oct 27, 2017 7:34 PM +00:00

Winona got work? She must have a good agent.

--Anonymous
replies 32Oct 27, 2017 7:41 PM +00:00

As soon as I saw there was a totured magical girl and a group of loser boys I was like bye, honey, I don't have time for this.

--Anonymous
replies 33Oct 27, 2017 8:57 PM +00:00

R31 What!?! You mean they've added more niggers to the show?!?

--Anonymous
replies 34Oct 27, 2017 9:10 PM +00:00

I loved the sassy little sister I wish she had a bigger part. She reminded me of the wonderful Dee from What’s Happening.

I take back all the bad stuff I said about Astin. I like him now even though he seems to be written out now. I’m on chapter 6 and waiting to watch the last ones I will be sad when it’s over and have to wait a year.

I’m not crazy about El’s storyline. Is Harbour her father? The scenes with her mother was done so well last year not so much this year.

--Anonymous
replies 35Oct 27, 2017 9:37 PM +00:00

Marathoning it. I didn't recognize Paul Reiser.

--Anonymous
replies 36Oct 27, 2017 9:46 PM +00:00

When the story doesn't focus on El, it kinda sucks. I have ZERO interest in Nancy's love life.

--Anonymous
replies 37Oct 27, 2017 10:08 PM +00:00

They are over doing the music. It ruined the scenes of Nancy and Jonathan getting together.

Are Mike and Eleven ever going to get together?

--Anonymous
replies 38Oct 27, 2017 10:09 PM +00:00

Everyone treats Max like shit (except Lucas). It really pisses me off. That girl has it rough.

--Anonymous
replies 39Oct 27, 2017 10:17 PM +00:00

I was hoping Eleven (the name I prefer) and Max would have scenes together and we would have some sisterhood looks like that isn’t happening.

I like diversity when good actors get cast who normally wouldn’t but to have an interracial relationship in the 80s like it was no big deal needs better writing.

Why does Eleven’s sister and her gang have strange hairstyles ?

Millie Bobby Brown is so great. I hope she has a long career.

--Anonymous
replies 40Oct 27, 2017 10:50 PM +00:00

I really like chapter 7 and I’m glad —- I assume isn’t dead.

--Anonymous
replies 41Oct 27, 2017 11:05 PM +00:00

This is good. Damn good. I love how they make Winona Ryder the smartest one on the show.

I hate the option to skip intro. Why you want to skip one of the best intros in TV history ?

Why is Cara Buono I listed in the credits? She is barely in it.

--Anonymous
replies 42Oct 27, 2017 11:18 PM +00:00

Grace is straight and she also caught that extra something in the shower scene. So it can't be just wishful thinking on our part.

Also, there was that Chekhov's slur dropped by his father. I think we'll see him being portrayed as homosexual in the next two seasons. I want the mother of all redemption arcs for him.

Stranger Things Season 2 REVIEW today, spoilers! Beyond The Trailer's reaction & review of 2017 Netflix series! Episode 1, 2, 3 & 4! http://bit.ly/subscribeB...
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--Anonymous
replies 43Oct 28, 2017 4:49 AM +00:00

How do you not recognize Paul Reiser.

--Anonymous
replies 44Oct 28, 2017 8:29 AM +00:00

I was shocked how hot Steve looked in the shower scene and by his jeans bulge. I'm crushing on Steve this season.

Mullet asshole is TOTALLY a closet case.

--Anonymous
replies 45Oct 28, 2017 8:41 AM +00:00

I think the producers like Steve. He got promoted to be a member of the Goonirs and got to swing his Nagaan bat instead of following around Nancy.

--Anonymous
replies 46Oct 28, 2017 8:47 AM +00:00

Goonies.

--Anonymous
replies 47Oct 28, 2017 8:48 AM +00:00

R45 That jeans bulge was out of this world but I can't get past the low hairline. Was that a wig or his real hair?

--Anonymous
replies 48Oct 28, 2017 8:49 AM +00:00

Why do sequels always split up the team? Our 'band of brothers' have been separated for most of the first half of the series...

--Anonymous
replies 49Oct 28, 2017 8:51 AM +00:00

I was hoping Barb was still alive but I guess she is dead dead.

Grace? Chekhov? Who are these people?

I don’t know if the product placement is bad or if they are doing a spook about a movie with product placement.

--Anonymous
replies 50Oct 28, 2017 8:52 AM +00:00

R50, we've known Barb was dead since last season. Why would you think she's not dead when we SAW HER ROTTING BODY IN THE UPSIDEDOWN?

--Anonymous
replies 51Oct 28, 2017 9:02 AM +00:00

I wish David Harbour would show his bare ass.

--Anonymous
replies 52Oct 28, 2017 9:06 AM +00:00

True r49. Dustin and the Lucas was doing a storyline by themselves for awhile. The separation I miss most is Mike and Eleven I assume Mike was also working on It so he didn’t get a heavy storyline. I haven’t seen the last two episodes but I assume they will finally get together.

Oops. The actor who plays Jonathan is denied to be able to come to the Us. They found traces of cocaine in his luggage.

--Anonymous
replies 53Oct 28, 2017 9:06 AM +00:00

Yeah I was hoping for some nudity in the shower scenes also.

R52 I NEVER.... Yes I remember seeing her body but didn’t realize it was rotting. This is is sci-fi They can do what they want. Looks like like they revived the great villain Matthew Modine why not America’s sweetheart Barb?

--Anonymous
replies 54Oct 28, 2017 9:11 AM +00:00

They've been saying she was dead for a year.

--Anonymous
replies 55Oct 28, 2017 9:23 AM +00:00

The biggest problem with the show is that the actress who plays Nancy is not very charismatic nor sympathetic. It's almost impossible to feel very sorry for her.

--Anonymous
replies 56Oct 28, 2017 9:23 AM +00:00

Loved Winona's look of total determination when her son basically told her that monster molested him. Great face acting.

--Anonymous
replies 57Oct 28, 2017 9:26 AM +00:00

I think Winona is even better this season.

--Anonymous
replies 58Oct 28, 2017 9:30 AM +00:00

The actress who plays Nancy also very clearly has an eating disorder and it's hard to look at her.

--Anonymous
replies 59Oct 28, 2017 9:52 AM +00:00
How do you not recognize Paul Reiser.

Because he's old, gray and chunky. Last time I remember seeing him was in that show with Helen Hunt.

--Anonymous
replies 60Oct 28, 2017 10:07 AM +00:00

This show still captures the 80's perfectly. The music, the clothes, even the homes.

--Anonymous
replies 61Oct 28, 2017 10:11 AM +00:00

I wonder if kids today can even relate to these 80s kids running around with no adult supervision...

--Anonymous
replies 62Oct 28, 2017 10:15 AM +00:00

Did they ever show Dustin’s poor mother again? She really loved that cat.

--Saving the last 2 chapters.
replies 63Oct 28, 2017 11:29 AM +00:00

Just finished watching it, it was good.

--Anonymous
replies 64Oct 28, 2017 11:44 AM +00:00

R62, I'm not a "kid" anymore, but I love this show because it brings back memories. I was born in '87, just turned 30. They played many of the songs when I was a kid.

--Anonymous
replies 65Oct 28, 2017 11:46 AM +00:00

80s was a good time. Also the golden age of gay porn.

--Anonymous
replies 66Oct 28, 2017 11:50 AM +00:00

I liked Nancy until she got together with Jonathan. She’s always wearing coats to cover up her prolbem.

--Anonymous
replies 67Oct 28, 2017 12:09 PM +00:00

In the first season, I thought the kid playing Will Byers was the weakest link of the child actors and figured it was a good thing his part was fairly minimal. But holy hell, he's been absolutely terrific. Such a heartbreaking performance. Obviously the directors knew where they wanted to go with this kid if they got a second season.

--Anonymous
replies 68Oct 28, 2017 12:55 PM +00:00

I assumed rResier was replacing Modine as the main villain but I guess not.

Hey gang are you like me? We’re you first annoyed with Astin then think he was a good addition to the cast?

--Anonymous
replies 69Oct 28, 2017 1:17 PM +00:00

Yes Will is deserving of an Emmy.

--Anonymous
replies 70Oct 28, 2017 1:18 PM +00:00

I wonder what will will be the thrust of Season 3? How can they top the "Big Bad" of the Shadow Monster? Maybe people in Hawkins start getting possessed/Body Snatched? Picture it...the old secretary at the police station with black vines growing out of her face...

Personally, the THRUST I want to see is Steve thrusting up Mullet's tight ass!

--Anonymous
replies 71Oct 28, 2017 1:28 PM +00:00

Eleven was sidelined for most of the season, I found that lazy writing because they didn't want her to help the main characters til the finale. That episode with her sister was awful, those characters were all one dimensional cartoons and the whole thing felt like it was out of some lesser show. Also, Kelli is on a quest to attack the bad men but hasn't tried to go after the facility itself? Why not just blow it up, she doesn't care about human life.

I'm happy the actors who play Dustin and Lucas had such prominent roles, they are wonderful, and I was okay with the actor who played Mike no longer being the "main kid". And yes, they did upgrade Steve to nearly being a member of the gang, gave the actor a plotline outside of Nancy (and yes, I knew there would be comments her about him bulging in his jeans)

Thank you the Duffer brothers for giving the gays some goodies by having Dacre Montgomery being objectified all season and even a homoerotic shower scene, loved that.

I found Winona terribly one-note in Season 1, she was better here.

Yes Will is deserving of an Emmy.

Snort. No.

I wish David Harbour would show his bare ass.

I thought we might in that shower scene, but I guess this isn't the type of show that is going to do nudity.

Overall it was a worthy effort. It maintained the same level of quality that season 1 did (which was good but not perfect either). As I said, my main complaint is found Eleven's plotline to be a terrible decision and badly executed.

--Anonymous
replies 72Oct 28, 2017 3:24 PM +00:00
Oops. The actor who plays Jonathan is denied to be able to come to the Us. They found traces of cocaine in his luggage.

How embarrassing, having to miss the premiere of his show. Sounds like there was just bits of coke on his clothes, isn't like he was trying to transport it. Though man, he is sloppy with his coke apparently! You don't want to waste it on your clothes.

--Anonymous
replies 73Oct 28, 2017 3:57 PM +00:00

R62: My tween niece and nephew who are watching the show are fascinated by how much freedom kids had in "olden times."

--Anonymous
replies 74Oct 28, 2017 4:06 PM +00:00
I like diversity when good actors get cast who normally wouldn’t but to have an interracial relationship in the 80s like it was no big deal needs better writing.

Her brother did make a comment about not hanging out with people like that.

But I had the same thought, being in an interracial relationship in a smalltown in Indiana in the 1980s sadly would have some people bitching.

--Anonymous
replies 75Oct 28, 2017 4:20 PM +00:00
I think the producers like Steve. He got promoted to be a member of the Goonirs and got to swing his Nagaan bat instead of following around Nancy.

Steve was originally supposed to die in Season 1, but the duffer brothers fell in love with Joe Keery.

“Steve Harrington’s story didn’t always end happily, says @nataliadyer. #StrangerThursdays https://t.co/W6k6GpS7gd”
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--Anonymous
replies 76Oct 28, 2017 4:27 PM +00:00
I wish David Harbour would show his bare ass.

God, yes. He's such a MAN.

--Hunk!
replies 77Oct 28, 2017 5:46 PM +00:00

Mews the cat is going to be the Barb of season 2.

The scene where Dustin's mom is in the yard pathetically calling for Mews is the only heartbreaking scene in the only series.

--Justice for Mews
replies 78Oct 28, 2017 5:51 PM +00:00

The Chicago episode was cringeworthy and the truly only awful note of both seasons. There are much more organic and plausible ways to introduce other 00s into Eleven's life. I'm interested in the others like her.

Has there been any word on whether or not there will be another season?

--Anonymous
replies 79Oct 28, 2017 5:55 PM +00:00
Has there been any word on whether or not there will be another season?

Of course! This show is a huge hit for netflix, and the duffer brothers have said they see it as a four season show ( we will see if they actually stop at four)

To read more on Stranger Things 2, pick up the new issue of Entertainment Weekly on stands Friday. You can buy the whole set now, or purchase the individual covers of Eleven, the boys, or the grown…
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--Anonymous
replies 80Oct 28, 2017 6:04 PM +00:00

Oh I don’t think I could be responsible for my actions if there isn’t a 3rd season. Bad enough we have to wait a year. I will miss it more than GOT.

Despite some flaws it is amazing this season was just as good maybe parts better than first season. I loved Dustin in season one I loved him more in season 2. We all agree with Nancy he is our favorite.

Cmon r78 the cat getting ate was sad but Sean Astin is the Barb of this season. Also thee was another heartbreaking moment when Dustin got turned down twice at the dance until Nancy saved the day.

I think one of the brothers must be gay with Barbra and Mullet looking like he just stepped out of a Matt Sterling video. BTW this show deserves an hairdressing Emmy for Dustin and Mullet they both had mullets and look damn good.

--Anonymous
replies 81Oct 28, 2017 7:12 PM +00:00

Meant Barbra on the soundtrack.

One thing bad about show not being a regular series it could have a Talking Dead like show to discuss it

--Anonymous
replies 82Oct 28, 2017 7:15 PM +00:00

I got to hate the lisping fat boy by the end of the show. He's got genuine comic timing, but he's so annoying!

--Anonymous
replies 83Oct 28, 2017 9:17 PM +00:00

"I'm sorry, you ate my cat."

--Anonymous
replies 84Oct 28, 2017 9:45 PM +00:00

I loved Eleven in the ridiculous Pat Benatar outfit in the later episodes. I kept expecting she was going to engage in an angry dance-off with a pimp.

--Anonymous
replies 85Oct 28, 2017 9:56 PM +00:00

Beyond Stranger Things has a much better host than Hardwick. I think he played in Community and is gay as a goose. I think he enjoyed talking about Mullet.

One of the brothers seemed argumentative and bitchy like the typical DLer.

Beyond helps those (me!) sad when the show is over and you have to wait a year for something new. We get a video of Barb but no Winona so far. Max is beautiful in real life.

--Anonymous
replies 86Oct 28, 2017 10:09 PM +00:00

I really liked the new actress who played Max. And yes the new bully character (her brother) was able to sometimes be quite sexy and sometimes be quite disgusting.

Most of the younger children were deeply annoying at one point or another, including all of the boys except Lucas. The series had too many twelve year olds throwing extreme tantrums. I found it almost impossible to care about Will since his tantrums were so ridiculous, The kids were appealing being nerds, but I wasn't able to find the attempts to sentimentalize their friendship very interesting.

Paul Reiser surprised me--at first I thought he was going to play his role like the villain he played in "Aliens," but I liked how multilayered his character was. He has certainly aged a lot though, although it's not surprising since I'd barely seen him in the last fifteen years.

Winona Ryder was much better in this series--she wasn't trying to chew the scenery as much as during the first series.

Sean Astin is as fat as all get-out now, but he can genuinely be likeable.

--Anonymous
replies 87Oct 28, 2017 10:12 PM +00:00

It made me uncomfortable how they used the F word though. I know homophobia was normal back in the 80s, but it still doesn't make it any less awful every time I hear the word.

--Anonymous
replies 88Oct 28, 2017 10:14 PM +00:00
Sean Astin is as fat as all get-out now, but he can genuinely be likeable.

I think Sean is a cutie. Yes, he is fat, but he's one of the few fatties I'd be willing to fuck.

--Anonymous
replies 89Oct 28, 2017 10:16 PM +00:00

I believe only the bad guys used the gay f word so that wasn’t so bad. Will looks much better without the pageboy do. Bill Nye!!

--Anonymous
replies 90Oct 28, 2017 10:18 PM +00:00

Mullet is on Beyond!

--Anonymous
replies 91Oct 28, 2017 10:24 PM +00:00

And he is wearing another low cut shirt!

--Anonymous
replies 92Oct 28, 2017 10:25 PM +00:00

Mullet had Thanksgiving with The Brothers.

--Anonymous
replies 93Oct 29, 2017 2:05 AM +00:00

Mullet landed the role by filming himself dancing to Duran Duran in a g-string r92. The guy definitely doesn't mind showing skin.

--Anonymous
replies 94Oct 29, 2017 4:01 AM +00:00
Why is Cara Buono I listed in the credits? She is barely in it.

Yeah, I had the same thought. She is credited as a main cast member but Nancy and Mike's mom barely existed this season, her fun flirting scene with mullet was the only thing she had all season. Wonder if they are going to keep that little plot going for season 3.

--Anonymous
replies 95Oct 29, 2017 4:29 AM +00:00

Duffer Brothers I beg you! Release the g string video!!! I’m totally obsessed with Mullet and I bet the Gay Mafia is trying to get ahold of him while we speak. What is it about Perth that so many good looking stars come from there?

All the stars showed up either in person or video on Beyond except Winona the star of the series. I wonder why.

--Anonymous
replies 96Oct 29, 2017 5:01 AM +00:00

Zac Efron who???

--Anonymous
replies 97Oct 29, 2017 5:02 AM +00:00
think one of the brothers must be gay with Barbra on the soundtrack and Mullet looking like he just stepped out of a Matt Sterling video.

There were also hints about Will maybe being gay in season 1 (wouldn't be surprised if they go back to that in future seasons). I do wonder if one of them is gay,.

Also I love that Matt Sterling line, kudos.

--Anonymous
replies 98Oct 29, 2017 5:21 AM +00:00

Mullet on Beyond seemed to have no prolbem being a sex object even admitting to putting cologne on his privates in real life. I liked how he charmingly said he was nothing like his character.

Looks like I will be watching something called the Power Rangers for the first time.

--Anonymous
replies 99Oct 29, 2017 5:36 AM +00:00
Looks like I will be watching something called the Power Rangers for the first time.

It actually isn't a bad movie. I watched that show as a kid so had to check out the movie expecting to be to terrible but I was pleasantly surprised.

Mullet on Beyond seemed to have no prolbem being a sex object even admitting to putting cologne on his privates in real life.

His instagram looks like this

21.1k Likes, 289 Comments - Dacre Montgomery (@dacremontgomery) on Instagram
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--Anonymous
replies 100Oct 29, 2017 5:42 AM +00:00

And he loves dressing like this for PR events.

--Anonymous
replies 101Oct 29, 2017 5:43 AM +00:00
Most of the younger children were deeply annoying at one point or another, including all of the boys except Lucas. The series had too many twelve year olds throwing extreme tantrums. I found it almost impossible to care about Will since his tantrums were so ridiculous, The kids were appealing being nerds, but I wasn't able to find the attempts to sentimentalize their friendship very interesting.

They have to be real people, not just adorable dorks. I mean 8th graders are highly emotional beings, the show has no choice but to keep growing with the characters.

Did they ever show Dustin’s poor mother again? She really loved that cat.

She got anothet cat, never finds out what happens to Mews.

The actress was great, hope they give her a little more to do in season 3.

--Anonymous
replies 102Oct 29, 2017 8:02 AM +00:00

I don't know why but I really started to hate the actor that was also in it and the toothless kid, the cursing thing us annoyingly shit, it's like kids cursing is new and revolutionary to these 50 year old execs or something.

--Anonymous
replies 103Oct 29, 2017 8:15 AM +00:00

The Chicago diversion really did seem like an attempt at a spin-off... if it were a normal TV show.

My biggest problem with season two is how Eleven was side-lined. Episode before the end, and everyone still just assumes she's dead except the cop (and he doesn't seem too concerned that he hasn't been around to check on her for days)

--Anonymous
replies 104Oct 29, 2017 8:16 AM +00:00
the cursing thing us annoyingly shit, it's like kids cursing is new and revolutionary to these 50 year old execs or something.

The Duffer brothers would have you know they are only 33 bitch!

But yeah, I don't mind the kids cussing because kids that age do cuss so it is realistic dialog, however they hide it and don't cuss to parents. There were a few times the characters were dropping profanity to parents which they they aren't going to do, and is definitely just done because it is "funny"

--Anonymous
replies 105Oct 29, 2017 8:37 AM +00:00

LOVE the music.

--Anonymous
replies 106Oct 29, 2017 9:14 AM +00:00

The shower scene definitely made me think of the DLers who like to mourn how guys used to get freely naked in the lockerroom together and no one towel-danced.

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--Anonymous
replies 107Oct 29, 2017 9:30 AM +00:00

Rob Lowe thinks mullet looks like a young him

“Been wondering myself. https://t.co/ER8ZY3mRFQ”
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--Anonymous
replies 108Oct 29, 2017 9:34 AM +00:00

The actress that plays eleven has the most interesting accent. British?

--Anonymous
replies 109Oct 29, 2017 9:37 AM +00:00

Mullet boy is a total closet case and attracted to Steve which is why ke kept picking on him. I think in season 3 he'll fuck Mike's mother in an attempt to act straight but we'll see more of his attraction to Steve (who's now single so who knows what might happen).

--Anonymous
replies 110Oct 29, 2017 9:37 AM +00:00
The actress that plays eleven has the most interesting accent. British?

Yep, Millie Brown is british. As is Jonathan. And mullet is an aussie.

--Anonymous
replies 111Oct 29, 2017 9:39 AM +00:00
Mullet boy is a total closet case and attracted to Steve which is why ke kept picking on him.

Perhaps part 1

78.media.tumblr.com
--Anonymous
replies 112Oct 29, 2017 9:46 AM +00:00

Perhaps part 2

78.media.tumblr.com
--Anonymous
replies 113Oct 29, 2017 9:48 AM +00:00

a show made by pedophiles for pedophiles

--Anonymous
replies 114Oct 29, 2017 10:15 AM +00:00

Okay r114.....

Bye dear.

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--Anonymous
replies 115Oct 29, 2017 10:35 AM +00:00
The Duffer brothers would have you know they are only 33 bitch!

And they're surprisingly attractive.

--Anonymous
replies 116Oct 29, 2017 11:15 AM +00:00

The Duffer brothers are having to defend the Chicago episode which has been getting lots of hate online.

Warning: The following post contains spoilers from Stranger Things 2. Move over Team Taylor vs. Team Katy: There is a new pop culture debate brewing in 2017. If you’ve watched Stranger Things…
EW.com
--Anonymous
replies 117Oct 29, 2017 11:50 AM +00:00

They were trying to be like The Warriors instead it was like a bad SNL skit of The Warriors. The wacky hairstyles made it worse.

--Anonymous
replies 118Oct 29, 2017 11:56 AM +00:00

R118 sometimes I think that's the point. They really are trying to bring back memories of 80's culture with this show.

--Anonymous
replies 119Oct 29, 2017 11:59 AM +00:00

I don’t think the episode was so bad some of it was good. Giving the much loved Eleven a stand alone episode was good idea it just could have been done better. It was like it was the first job whoever did hair had ever done.

--Anonymous
replies 120Oct 29, 2017 12:03 PM +00:00

The 80s punk scene did have these ridiculous hair styles, my main problem is none of those characters felt like real people. And the one person who did get development, Kelli, I didn't think the actress was that strong. They really needed good talent there to anchor that episode.

--Anonymous
replies 121Oct 29, 2017 12:07 PM +00:00

The scenes with Eleven’s wasn’t very good either but first season her scene was perfect. I wonder if the brothers took some time off during the shoot of that episode or did they just hire a lousy director?

--Anonymous
replies 122Oct 29, 2017 12:11 PM +00:00

Eleven’s mother.

--Anonymous
replies 123Oct 29, 2017 12:13 PM +00:00

They didn't direct that episode, someone named Rebecca Thomas did and it is the only episode of the show she has directed.

Directed by Rebecca Thomas. With Winona Ryder, David Harbour, Finn Wolfhard, Millie Bobby Brown. Psychic visions draw Eleven to a band of violent outcasts and an angry girl with a shadowy past.
IMDb
--Anonymous
replies 124Oct 29, 2017 12:23 PM +00:00

You think a woman would care about hairdressing. Also in some of Eleven’s mothers scenes it looked like she was wearing a bad wig.

--Anonymous
replies 125Oct 29, 2017 12:40 PM +00:00

Until the actual arrival of the parents, I was sure Max and her step brother were like numbers 012 and 003 or something, even after Max told the story to the group. It’s cool though, as they get to stay around and we get Mullet’s inevitable gay reveal. It would be cute if Mullet and Steve start flirting, but Mullet seems like the type who gets violent after the act, so that might be a little too dark.

I do hope that they can conjure another human villain for next season.

Loved Eleven’s outfit change in Chicago. And the reunion was clichéd, but I still loved every moment of it.

I also loved Sean Astin’s character’s arc by the end. I also thought he might end up being a secret villain or something, but it’s nice that they kept him wholesome...in keeping with his sci-fi & fantasy characters. However, a smoking, frantic, retail-working single mother like Joyce would sadly still be looking for abusive bad men to dick her down IRL.

I thought the scenes in the PI’s House were pretty cringey. He was basically like “You’re young, and attractive. Please have sex.” Blegh. I mean it was cute that they did it, but it was still cringey.

--Anonymous
replies 126Oct 29, 2017 1:29 PM +00:00
I thought the scenes in the PI’s House were pretty cringey. He was basically like “You’re young, and attractive. Please have sex.” Blegh. I mean it was cute that they did it, but it was still cringey.

I found that scene weird as well, how invested this guy was in these two teenagers love lives and getting them to fuck each other. Very contrived.

Though the "how was the pull-out, Jonathan?" line was a fantastic double entendre.

--Anonymous
replies 127Oct 29, 2017 1:38 PM +00:00

I liked Jonathan the first season and felt bad he didn’t get together with Nancy. When he did this season with the creepy factor and overdone music is was meh. Will he ever be allowed back to the States?

--Anonymous
replies 128Oct 29, 2017 1:43 PM +00:00

I hate how everyone acts like Nancy is some red hot sex goddess. She's a homely bag of bones,

--Anonymous
replies 129Oct 29, 2017 2:01 PM +00:00

I'm actually in it and my director was not the brothers but the guy who won an Oscar for "Finding Nemo". Great guy. As was the star I got to work opposite. A complete sweetheart. Very nice gig. I even liked the Wardrobe woman and that is rare.

--Anonymous
replies 130Oct 29, 2017 2:07 PM +00:00

R129, weren’t people generally skinner back then? I kind of appreciate that she isn’t voluptuous like present-day portrayals of “teenagers”. But I was still sucking tit in the 80’s, so I’m guessing here.

--Anonymous
replies 131Oct 29, 2017 2:11 PM +00:00

Very cool r130. That'd be Andrew Stanton, he did episodes five and fix for this season. I have some guesses of which scenes needed extras with the main characters, but I guess you don't want to go more specific.

Do you have any knowledge of whether Matt Duffer is gay? There is nothing about his personal life on the internet other than he once mentioned he is single.

--Anonymous
replies 132Oct 29, 2017 2:14 PM +00:00

(Not an extra but that's all I can say. And no info on anyone other than the one I acted with who was sweet).

--Anonymous
replies 133Oct 29, 2017 2:21 PM +00:00

Was Winona on a coke binge that day?

--Anonymous
replies 134Oct 29, 2017 2:24 PM +00:00
Will he ever be allowed back to the States?

It is unknown at this time, but I imagine he will be able to get permission to enter the States again.

Though honestly I don't think the show would lose that much if Jonathan was written out.

The English actor was denied entry into the U.S.
The Hollywood Reporter
--Anonymous
replies 135Oct 29, 2017 2:25 PM +00:00

The Sean Astin bits with the computer were cringe-worthy. People who know nothing about computers shouldn't write computer dialog or computer-related scenes. A system like that would NOT be running on BASIC. It'd probably be fortran or C, running on some early UNIX system. BASIC was a learning language for kids.

--Anonymous
replies 136Oct 29, 2017 2:34 PM +00:00

Doctors, cops, and lawyers have to deal with that shit all the time r136.

If a show tackles something you specialize in, it is going to piss you off by how inaccurate it is.

--Anonymous
replies 137Oct 29, 2017 2:36 PM +00:00

Fewer and fewer shows are doing that so blatantly, though, R137. Witness "Mr Robot" for one good example.

--Anonymous
replies 138Oct 29, 2017 2:48 PM +00:00

I binged the 2nd installment. It was pretty good - and Dart oh my that was funny where the grown up Dart recognized the kid who took care of him.

--Doctoryes
replies 139Oct 29, 2017 3:00 PM +00:00

There are comments on all these videos hating on how Dacre was showing some chest while doing press

dacre looking like a gay pirate lol
The gangbanger beard guy looks like a douche with that shirt
Making the second season of a hit show is never easy. Not only are you trying to come up with a cool story and interesting twists and turns, you’re also deal...
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--Anonymous
replies 140Oct 29, 2017 3:09 PM +00:00
Why is Dacre Montgomery showing his breast in every single interview? I mean it matches his character but it makes him look like a total moron
From the Upside Down to the YH Studio, "Stranger Things" stars Joe Keery (Steve Harrington), Natalia Dyer (Nancy Wheeler), and newcomer Dacre Montgomery (Bil...
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--Anonymous
replies 141Oct 29, 2017 3:11 PM +00:00

Just finished the 2nd season...

It wasn't terrible, but definitely not as good as the first season.

I think the biggest problem with the new season is that it felt so unfocused. Season 1 had a very clear, unwavering plot thread that tied all the episodes together: finding Will. It was the singular driving force that propelled the entire season, and every character or subplot ultimately tied back to that overarching plot point.

Season 2 was all over the place. Too many disjointed subplots and characters that did nothing to serve an underlying cohesion narrative.

You had:

Will and Shadow Monster Dustin and Dart Mullet and Sister Nancy's justice for Barb crusade Eleven's vigilante adventures Joyce and Bob's romance ...and the list goes on.

Just too many things going on.

I hated all the new characters, especially Mullet and his Fire crotch sister. Total waste of screen time that ultimately amounted to nothing, and took time away or distracted from characters we already cared about. I kept waiting to see how these two dead weights were connected to the overall plot. Maybe they were connected to Hawkins Lab conspiracy? Maybe they were experimented on like Eleven? Nope, nothing. In the end, they were just two random characters the Duffers threw in with a lame divorce backstory. Why they did is beyond me. There was no reason for these characters to be exist, plot-wise.

And yeah, the side episode with Eleven in NYC was so stupid. Badly written, badly acted and, again, completely pointless. Felt like a bad episode from the X-men cartoon series. Just another distraction away from the main plot. And the girl who plays Eleven is such a good actress, it was criminal to side-line her this whole season, which I also think hurt it terribly. You could tell they really didn't know what to do with the character this season, but omitting her from the main plot did them no favors.

All this disjointedness even made the 80s nostalgia seem heavy handed and layered on like make-up, as opposed to last season where you really felt immersed in the time period, like you were watching an actual 80s movie. This season, with the bad wigs, heavy-handed synth, and unfocused writing, it felt very much like a show pretending to be set in the 80s.

I thought Will's storyline was great, and the actor playing him did a fantastic job. That, again, should've been the focus of this season.

--Anonymous
replies 142Oct 29, 2017 3:25 PM +00:00

Was Eleven in NYC?

--Anonymous
replies 143Oct 29, 2017 3:33 PM +00:00

I think it was Chicago, near Indiana.

--Anonymous
replies 144Oct 29, 2017 3:37 PM +00:00

I get what you are saying r142, but I think a lot of that is a natural part of the show coming into its own and expanding. When you have a large ensemble cast you start giving them their own subplots and separating characters into their own little side adventures. "Game of Thrones" being the go to example of that type of storytelling. I don't think they could keep their narrative and focus that small moving forward.

Was Eleven in NYC?

It was Chicago. The show takes place in Indiana, making Chicago the go to "big city"

--Anonymous
replies 145Oct 29, 2017 3:37 PM +00:00
Though honestly I don't think the show would lose that much if Jonathan was written out.

R135 has a great point. Last season, I felt like Jonathan had the potential to be a great loner, but important/tight focus character. But he really does get lost in the smear of the ensemble of kids, especially since he has little courage and is still just a "nice guy" who cares for Will. Really Finn Wolfhard's Mike could fill that role by himself.

--Anonymous
replies 146Oct 29, 2017 3:50 PM +00:00

Plus the guy who plays Jonathan is a terrible actor. I'm kind of glad that he got sidelined with Bony Girl because it really reduced their time onscreen. I prefer Steve to the both of them. Girlfriend is giving up some nice, big D for that mopey loser - her loss. Their kiss looked so damn awkward.

--Anonymous
replies 147Oct 29, 2017 4:10 PM +00:00

The first season was great because it was new and more importantly: Unexpected. With the second season came expectations. And yeah, some were not met.

To me the shower scene was a tribute to the homoeroticism of 80s and 90s movies (like Top Gun). I don't think Mullet guy is going to be actually gay or bi. I think his story will be about standing up to his bully of a father in season 3.

I was surprised that they didn't do anything with the monsters' aversion to water. I thought the gang would flood the underground tunnels somehow. But instead they went with fire.

I was also surprised how tolerable Sean Astin was. I hated his character in The Strain. I thought they would make him some covert agent who swarmed his way into Will's family to spy on him or some other villain stuff and then caught off guard when he turned out to be a noble goofball all along.

The whole thing with the Sherrif hiding Eleven and basically keeping her safe / prisoner felt a bit creepy at times.

In episode two I had to giggle that a The Clash fan wouldn't recognize the Siouxsie Sioux goth costume. Punk vs. Post-Punk/New Wave, I guess. LOL.

Winona still overplayed her part. Maybe that's expected at his point bitching at the scientists who don't know what's going on with her son or having to make a big scene about taking upon herself to save her son's life.

Love Steve, but he seems kind of a pushover. Letting Mullet guy show him up in school and doesn't make a big scene about getting dumped by Nancy. Strangely mature. I guess that's because of the Farrah Fawcett spray ... oops!

Dustin looked like a totally different kid at the winter prom! What a different hairstyle can do to someone. Still didn't get the girl.

--Anonymous
replies 148Oct 29, 2017 4:17 PM +00:00
Winona still overplayed her part.

Very true, R148. It's like "Okay, we get it. You can do desperate/verge of tears. Give me something else!"

--Anonymous
replies 149Oct 29, 2017 4:25 PM +00:00

I'm ok with Winona's performance. Hell, if my kid had gone through what Will had, I'd be a little hysterical too.

As a superficial side note...I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed Steve's giant bulge in those tight jeans. Give me Joe Kerry over Mullet guy any day.

Also...I think they are definitely hinting that Will is gay. The subtext is all there, especially that story about him drawing his "Rainbow" spaceship. Then at the end he looked very uncomfortable when that random girl asked him to dance. Not sure if they'll ever reveal him to be, but I think we're supposed to read him that way. I do think one of the Duffer brothers is gay, and is dropping hints for us. Just my speculation.

--Anonymous
replies 150Oct 29, 2017 4:35 PM +00:00

I thought Winona was much improved this season.

Although last season, I thought Nancy was too good for Steve, in the end, it's Steve who's too good for Nancy.

I'm pretty sure Gremlins came out in 1984, and I'm sure Dustin saw it. What did he think was going to happen?

--Anonymous
replies 151Oct 29, 2017 4:44 PM +00:00

So it was basically Aliens, with Eleven playing Ellen Ripley.

--Anonymous
replies 152Oct 29, 2017 5:26 PM +00:00

Steve is probably my favorite character (and not because of his nice bulge, but that helps)--he's had the most growth. From a stereotypical douche rich kid, to a bat-wielding hero and surrogate big brother to the "gang".

--Anonymous
replies 153Oct 29, 2017 5:49 PM +00:00
To me the shower scene was a tribute to the homoeroticism of 80s and 90s movies (like Top Gun). I don't think Mullet guy is going to be actually gay or bi.

I doubt they are going to go down that route either. The basketball and shower scene was definitely homoerotic as fuck, and yes mimicking the shirts vs skins Volleyball game from "Top Gun" but I don't see a Mullet is gay plotline happening.

If a character is going to come out as gay it will probably be Will in the final season.

--Anonymous
replies 154Oct 29, 2017 6:12 PM +00:00

Because of Heathers I will be a Winona Ryder fan until the day I die. I thought her performance was more consistent this season

I still like Nancy I feel for her after all the mean things the internet has said about her. I hope she has gotten help if she needs it. Hair makeup and costumes did her no favors this season they were too worried so they just covered her up with coats.

Jonathan must have made someone mad because his storyline wasn’t very inspired. Even though Mullet looks like the hottest dreamiest gay porn star ever I don’t think he will get a gay storyline. If they release his audition video of him dancing in a g string I would be very happy. He makes me even more excited for ST 3.

It is funny Walking Dead has a bat swinging villain no one likes ST has a bat swinging hero everyone loves. I didn’t even notice his bulge but this season I got on the Steve bandwagon. I don’t think the show will ever have nudity or gay content but if Will comes out and the gang support it will be a very positive message.

--Anonymous
replies 155Oct 29, 2017 10:07 PM +00:00

Didn't the sheriff have a brief nude ass shot in the first season (when he was introduced)? Or did that just happen in a dream of mine?

What was missing this season was a compelling villain. The shadow monster was "just" ominous. I thought there wasn't a big enough (feel-good) pay-off of the splintered groups finally re-uniting after being apart from each other for most of the season. Steve as the babysitter was the best thing this season imho (well, apart from Billy, Mullet Guy - the douchebag you love to hate and gawk at). That and Dustin and Lucas competing over Max's affection and the scene of Will's relatives and friends reminding him about special moments with him.

--Anonymous
replies 156Oct 30, 2017 1:39 AM +00:00

I didn’t think about until it was over but yeah they needed a Matthew Modine like villain not a CGI monster alone I was still satisfied.

I got the feeling The Brothers did listen to fan feedback so I hope ST 3 will be better. We just have to wait a damn year.

--Anonymous
replies 157Oct 30, 2017 1:45 AM +00:00

Speaking of human villains a nice little touch The Brothers had in the first but was missing in 2. There was a middle aged woman villain who looked like an Avon Lady from hell some might even say a frau. She really do much just stand around with the bad guys until she was killed it was a very nice touch.

I hope Lucas sister and Dustin’s mother have a bigger role in 3.

--Anonymous
replies 158Oct 30, 2017 2:25 AM +00:00

They say they still aren't sure how many seasons, though it will be at least four

And that they expect to explore more of Eleven's "family" like Kelli

"We don't actually know," Ross told us at the season two premiere. "I think, you know, four to five seasons is likely where we'll end up, but who knows? I mean, none of this official, and we know where we want to go. We're trying to figure out still how long it'll take to get there, so we'll see." "It's hard, like four seems short, five seems long," Matt added. "So I don't know what to do." As for what we might see in those future seasons, get ready to meet some more of Eleven's unconventional family, according to executive producer Shawn Levy. "I think we've clearly implied there are other numbers, and I can't imagine that the world will only ever know Eleven and Eight."
Matt and Ross Duffer sound off on the future of the Netflix series
E! Online
--Anonymous
replies 159Oct 30, 2017 10:44 AM +00:00

I’m personally not thrilled about the idea of meeting other “numbers”. I’d hate for this show to diverge too far from their current cast or spend too much time on transient character backstories just for the sake of churning out more episodes. More isn’t always better and if they feel that they’ve sufficiently told this story with the current characters then they should end the show while they’re ahead.

--Anonymous
replies 160Oct 30, 2017 11:08 AM +00:00

I'd imagine a future number would come to Hawkins and end up causing trouble. You need sources of conflict.

--Anonymous
replies 161Oct 30, 2017 11:26 AM +00:00

I sure hope the show doesn't go The Avengers route and assemble a group of numbers to assist the core gang, because that will sidline the core gang even more by spending so much time on introducing and establishing these new characters with their supernatural abilities.

--Anonymous
replies 162Oct 30, 2017 11:37 AM +00:00

I hope it doesn't go off the rails they way so many of these do. The Misfits, Heroes, etc.

--Anonymous
replies 163Oct 30, 2017 11:40 AM +00:00

It will very easily go off the rails if they lean into what happened in the Chicago episode and turn the show into the X-Men with Eleven as Jean Grey.

They need to finish the Hawkins story and then find something else set somewhere else. I'm not saying turn it into AHS, but they need to stick with Heroes' original plan, and replace the cast every so often.

--Anonymous
replies 164Oct 30, 2017 11:43 AM +00:00

I'm wondering how much more they can do in Hawkins. How many times is Eleven going to save the day from the Upside Down terrors?

--Anonymous
replies 165Oct 30, 2017 11:47 AM +00:00

This series is so enjoyable. Maybe its not brilliant but I think the art direction is very refined. The colours are so fantastic. I love the score and the occasional period tune as well.

--Anonymous
replies 166Oct 30, 2017 11:55 AM +00:00

r165. I wouldn't be surprised if they do a whole summer-camp season showing that the Upside Down can be a threat everywhere.

--Anonymous
replies 167Oct 30, 2017 11:59 AM +00:00

sorry but i liked the Chicago episode, it was a little rushed though, too much info for one episode. Loved the girl with the flyswatter. that was a cool touch.

--Anonymous
replies 168Oct 30, 2017 12:41 PM +00:00

The forced quirks on Kali/Eight's gang was just too much.

I think I would have liked the subplot more if it had either come at a different place in the season, or been broken up across several episodes. I understand why it had to happen, because Kali's whole "Let the hate flow through you" was the reason why El was able to close the gate to the Upside Down, but we got what was probably the season's best cliffhanger at the episode before, and then it came to a screeching halt. It's just that the stuff with Steve, Dustin, Lucas, and Max at the junkyard while Mike, Will, Joyce, Hopper, and Bob were at the lab was SOOOOO good, and then....full stop.

El's "But I can save them" was lovely, though.

I wasn't crazy about Jonathan and Nancy's roadtrip either.

--Anonymous
replies 169Oct 30, 2017 12:56 PM +00:00

I just like spending 9 hours with the characters. Mullet (GRRR), Max, dustin’s Mom and Lucas sister were a welcome addition.

--Anonymous
replies 170Oct 30, 2017 1:05 PM +00:00
I wasn't crazy about Jonathan and Nancy's roadtrip either.

I liked it because of Brett Gelman's character and the meta (people too desperate to believe what they're being told by authority figures even nowdays!) "watering down" conclusion of their scheme to bring down the science lab.

--Anonymous
replies 171Oct 30, 2017 1:09 PM +00:00
I hated all the new characters, especially Mullet and his Fire crotch sister. Total waste of screen time that ultimately amounted to nothing

Total waste? But what about the eye candy factor?!

--Anonymous
replies 172Oct 30, 2017 1:09 PM +00:00

This season was crap. And where the hell was Barb??

--Bring back Barbara!
replies 173Oct 30, 2017 2:06 PM +00:00

Did you miss her decaying body in season one r173? We knew she was dead.

--Anonymous
replies 174Oct 30, 2017 2:08 PM +00:00

Barb's dead. One story arc of this season was dedicated to "Justice for Barb".

--Anonymous
replies 175Oct 30, 2017 2:09 PM +00:00

She was only dead in the Upside Down. They could bring her back if they wanted to.

--Anonymous
replies 176Oct 30, 2017 2:15 PM +00:00

r176, What. The. Fuck?

--Anonymous
replies 177Oct 30, 2017 2:17 PM +00:00

Hasn't the actress already moved on to another show? Pretty amazing that she was a local hire in Atlanta when she got the Barb gig and just out of high school. Good for her.

--Anonymous
replies 178Oct 30, 2017 2:17 PM +00:00

You start undoing character deaths and death becomes meaningless.

They unambiguously showed Barb was dead to the audience, I'm glad they didn't walk that back just because she was well liked.

--Anonymous
replies 179Oct 30, 2017 2:18 PM +00:00
Hasn't the actress already moved on to another show?

She has the recurring role of Ethel Muggs on Riverdale.

Which even worked in a #JusticeForEthel joke with remarkable alacrity.

--Anonymous
replies 180Oct 30, 2017 2:26 PM +00:00

Can one skip the Chicago episode and still follow the plot in subsequent episodes?

--Anonymous
replies 181Oct 30, 2017 2:27 PM +00:00

You could if you really wanted to, but really, there are only 9 episodes to watch and episode 7 is the shortest one.

--Anonymous
replies 182Oct 30, 2017 2:28 PM +00:00

His constantly half-naked turn on Stranger Things has been great for Mullet/Dacre.

Number 5 on imdb having risen 1300 fuckin spots.

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--Anonymous
replies 183Oct 30, 2017 2:31 PM +00:00

Re: r180,

She’s becoming the Edie McClurg of the new millennium.

--Anonymous
replies 184Oct 30, 2017 2:34 PM +00:00
You could if you really wanted to, but really, there are only 9 episodes to watch and episode 7 is the shortest one.

It sure as hell didn't feel like it was the shortest.

--Anonymous
replies 185Oct 30, 2017 2:34 PM +00:00
She’s becoming the Edie McClurg of the new millennium.

If anything, that's the actress who played Dustin's mother.

--They say Shannon Purser is a righteous dude
replies 186Oct 30, 2017 2:35 PM +00:00

I had to google Edie McClurg. Who knew eldergays are into Stranger Things?

--Anonymous
replies 187Oct 30, 2017 2:40 PM +00:00

Considering it's overflowing with Gen X cultural signifiers...

--Anonymous
replies 188Oct 30, 2017 2:43 PM +00:00

I’m 38, r187. I thought I had a few more years before reaching “eldergay” status! Yikes.

--R184
replies 189Oct 30, 2017 2:46 PM +00:00

Honestly the comment doesn't really work even as a joke.

"Stranger Things" isn't some obscure, underground show that only certain people would know about. It is a massive phenomenon. I remember seeing it broke twitter records this weekend.

While you were out dressed up as Eleven for Halloween over the weekend, the real Eleven has been making moves as a young social media mogul from the Upside Down. Since the second season of the show…
EW.com
--Anonymous
replies 190Oct 30, 2017 2:48 PM +00:00
Can one skip the Chicago episode and still follow the plot in subsequent episodes?

Eleven gets some training to prepare for her big moment in the finale. Without watching the episode I could see people complaining "she could do that all along?" .

--Anonymous
replies 191Oct 30, 2017 2:50 PM +00:00
I’m 38, [R187]. I thought I had a few more years before reaching “eldergay” status! Yikes.

I turn 40 next year. I'm already calling myself an eldergay in my head.

--Anonymous
replies 192Oct 30, 2017 2:52 PM +00:00

I'd say 50 is eldergay.

If you think about it, 18-49 is the demo that matters. That is what is tracked, that is what the entertainment industry cares about.

Then once you turn 50 you might as well be dead to them because they no longer care.

--Anonymous
replies 193Oct 30, 2017 2:57 PM +00:00

Fun times in an elevator.

48.2k Likes, 4,584 Comments - @instylemagazine on Instagram: “Sorry, Nancy... Steve and Jonathan are a bit preoccupied ???? #strangerthings #instyleglobes…”
Instagram
--Anonymous
replies 194Oct 30, 2017 2:57 PM +00:00

Aren't we old souls the moment we say our first "bitch, please!" ?

--Anonymous
replies 195Oct 30, 2017 2:57 PM +00:00

Thanks for that r194.

Now they should revisit that with Joe Keery and Dacre

--Anonymous
replies 196Oct 30, 2017 3:02 PM +00:00

Great interview with Joe Keery.

Parts you bitches will be most interested in

About the shower scene that your character had with Billy: Do you feel like he was hitting on you? It’s kind of like this homoerotic sort of vibe. Especially with the basketball scene, it totally reminds me of a Top Gun volleyball competition sort of thing. I don’t know if that’s what the Duffers intended, but it’s interesting that people are gleaning that from it. There may be a grain of truth in that, although we didn’t talk about it. But I think that all of those ’80s things have that sort of influence potentially, so, yeah, I don’t know. We’ll see. I think maybe we’ll touch upon that next year.
Was it hard to run around in the jeans that you wore? Because they seemed very tight. Yes. I will say, yes. It felt like Bruce Springsteen jeans or something like that. I don’t know if you could tell, but the entire railroad track scene, I’m bunching at the crotch extremely. They’re like Dennis Quaid in Breaking Away sort of jeans. But you know, I think it’s the style for the time period. It was pretty funny. They weren’t super uncomfortable. It definitely could have been worse. I could have been wearing something horrible. For the most part, the costume that I wore this year I was super into, especially for all of the action stuff. It actually wasn’t as tight as they looked. And I wear pretty tight jeans in real life. But the fact that they’re Wranglers, like actually really tight Wranglers, it’s not that elastic sort of jean you have nowadays. It’s like denim. It’s like you’re in a glove.

Yes, we definitely noticed.

“I’m bunching at the crotch extremely.”
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--Anonymous
replies 197Oct 30, 2017 3:12 PM +00:00

Was ill over the weekend so binge watched it. Perfect tv for that.

Enjoyed it but they nearly lost me with the Chicago sequence. Unbelievable, laughable cartoon characters. All that insipid punk-lite nonsense. None of them looked like they would actually hang out together. Though Hopper does make the remark about El looking like an MTV punk so perhaps it was a little bit of an ( unfortunate ) in-joke. Still seemed like she walked into a totally different show though. Good to see Kai Greene getting acting work however and he did good with what he was given.

There were parts where I drifted but if David Harbour was in the scene I was happy. Sexy man, particularly because he isn’t all gym body and over-primped.

Not as good as the first series and they will need to pull out all the stops for the next ( if we’re all still around to see it ) but it was welcome, feel good binge watch tv.

--Anonymous
replies 198Oct 30, 2017 3:13 PM +00:00

Is anyone having trouble with 194 link to work? Can someone repost it?

--Anonymous
replies 199Oct 30, 2017 3:27 PM +00:00

I think they should've kept the story in Hawkins. They jumped the shark way too soon in introducing other "Elevens". The opening scene of season 2, with the Indian girl and misfits running from the cops, should've been the cliffhanger exit into Season 3.

I think the Duffers missed a huge opportunity with Will being possessed.

They could've extended that outward to the whole town, and write the season around the residents of Hawkins becoming possessed by the upside down. I honestly thought that was the direction they were headed after Will barfed up that slug last season.

Having the residents of the town taken over would've been a great homage to the late 70s/early 80s sci-fi horror remakes like "Invasion of the body snatchers" and "Invaders from Mars."

That would've been a clear, singular plot point to build the season and existing characters around, and could've been amazingly suspenseful, watching Eleven and the gang try to escape and undo this "invasion" and save the town.

--Anonymous
replies 200Oct 30, 2017 3:27 PM +00:00

Write your own series, hon.

--Anonymous
replies 201Oct 30, 2017 3:30 PM +00:00

Here is a youtube link r199.

instylemagazine-Joe Keery Natalie Dyer Charlie Heaton Sorry, Nancy... Steve and Jonathan are a bit preoccupied ???? #strangerthings #instyleglobes #instyleoffca...
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--Anonymous
replies 202Oct 30, 2017 3:30 PM +00:00

Episode 7 Eleven had a few good moments. She couldn’t be a cold hearted killed and when she realized her Aunt was a rat and when she realized she needed to go home. Her hair and makeup didn’t look as silly as the so called pinks.

--Anonymous
replies 203Oct 30, 2017 3:34 PM +00:00

Eleven looked like a young Lena Dunham in some scenes in and after the Chicago episode.

--Anonymous
replies 204Oct 30, 2017 3:43 PM +00:00

I think having them vs the entire town would be going a little too big for season 2, that is like a final season plotline r200.

As others have said what made the show such a success is how it came out of nowhere with no expectations, no name creators and nearly a no-name cast.

Obviously to return for Season 2 they now have expectations. I think they handled it well, it wasn't perfect, but it maintained the quality of the first season (which itself was more flawed than some people want to acknowledge).

--Anonymous
replies 205Oct 30, 2017 3:47 PM +00:00
Eleven looked like a young Lena Dunham

Do I need to cut a bitch...?

--Millie
replies 206Oct 30, 2017 3:47 PM +00:00

Millie is easy on the eyes while Lena isn’t.

--Anonymous
replies 207Oct 30, 2017 3:55 PM +00:00

I keep waiting for someone to post a screen cap of the bulging jeans, but you guys keep letting me down.

Come on!

--Anonymous
replies 208Oct 30, 2017 4:09 PM +00:00
“Most of the cast and crew were out of town for Thanksgiving, but I was in Atlanta, which is a long way from Perth, so I couldn’t go home,” Montgomery says. “The two Duffer brothers and their partners invited me around. The five of us spent Thanksgiving together, discussing that scene and what music we could put to that opening.”

Ross Duffer has a girlfriend/wife, but Matt Duffer ....? No one knows. Has kept it very lowkey, and Dacre does use a gender-neutral word.

Continuing to build a case for my pet theory that Matt Duffer is gay.

A spoiler-filled chat with Hawkins, Indiana’s newest bully.
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--Anonymous
replies 209Oct 30, 2017 4:13 PM +00:00

Lens is delighted to be compared to Millie, she is jumping up and down squeeing right this moment.

--Anonymous
replies 210Oct 30, 2017 4:17 PM +00:00

You misspelled squealing*

--Anonymous
replies 211Oct 30, 2017 4:27 PM +00:00

They way Dacre was photographed/directed was without a doubt done by a gay man. Did the Duffers direct the shower scene?

--Anonymous
replies 212Oct 30, 2017 4:35 PM +00:00

The episode with the shower (#4) was written by them but not directed by them.

The Duffers directed eps 1, 2, 8, 9 this season.

--Anonymous
replies 213Oct 30, 2017 4:39 PM +00:00
You start undoing character deaths and death becomes meaningless.

You know nothing.

--J. Snow
replies 214Oct 30, 2017 4:52 PM +00:00

squee skwē/Submit informal verb gerund or present participle: squeeing squeal in delight or excitement. "I squeed like a 14-year-old fangirl when I found out"

--expand your vocabulary
replies 215Oct 30, 2017 4:53 PM +00:00

It was a just a little joke referring to squealing like a pig r215.

And let's be real, Jon Snow's death and resurrection in the show felt like a meaningless stunt. Though I think GRRM will handle it better in the books (if they ever come out...)

--Anonymous
replies 216Oct 30, 2017 4:59 PM +00:00

sorry, R216, i get it now.

--Anonymous
replies 217Oct 30, 2017 5:20 PM +00:00

I watched all of Season 1 for the first time on Saturday. Then I watched Season 2 on Sunday. I have a feeling that 008 and Billy will have bigger roles in Season 3...because their characters were underused in Season 2. Perhaps 008 comes to draft 011 into her crimes and maybe Billy falls for her. 011 will probably eventually have to kill 008 to stop her from committing evil acts. But what about the Upside Down World? Do you mean after all that running around in the lab and finally closing the gate that the Upside Down world still hasn't been sealed? How will they come back? Hopper had eels in his mouth, similar to how Will had eels suffocating him before his mother found him and rescued him. So maybe Hopper will have the virus now?

I don't think that Will or any other character will be gay. But in Season 1, episode 1 or 2, his mom tells Hopper don't bother calling Will's dad, because Will's dad has bullied the boy, calling him homophobic slurs (e.g. "queer").

I have a question...Is Matthew Modine the father of 008 and Eleven? Did he impregnate them during the drug trials? I guess that's why they would be sisters. Or are they sisters because they were raised together in the lab, but they have different bio dads?

--Anonymous
replies 218Oct 30, 2017 6:21 PM +00:00

The mullet guy was dreamy, beautiful eyes and long eyelashes. He might get killed off next season.

--Anonymous
replies 219Oct 30, 2017 6:46 PM +00:00
I have a question...Is Matthew Modine the father of 008 and Eleven? Did he impregnate them during the drug trials?

Possibly. That has never been confirmed.

--Anonymous
replies 220Oct 30, 2017 7:20 PM +00:00
Do you mean after all that running around in the lab and finally closing the gate that the Upside Down world still hasn't been sealed? How will they come back? Hopper had eels in his mouth, similar to how Will had eels suffocating him before his mother found him and rescued him. So maybe Hopper will have the virus now?

Both Hopper and Dustin inhaled stuff from the vines. I am sure they plan on that being important.

Do you mean after all that running around in the lab and finally closing the gate that the Upside Down world still hasn't been sealed?

We saw the "Mindflayer" was still out there, so they are still going to have to deal with it.

--Anonymous
replies 221Oct 30, 2017 7:24 PM +00:00

Honestly, I hope they don't deal with it i season 3. We've had enough of the Upside Down for now, and this season was in many ways a retread of the last season in that respect.

--Anonymous
replies 222Oct 30, 2017 7:39 PM +00:00

But that is the entire premise of the show r222, that they opened a portal to the upside down and dealing with those ramifications.

--Anonymous
replies 223Oct 30, 2017 7:44 PM +00:00

What happens in the Upside Down stays in the Upside Down. Unless there's a gate/portal that's open, the Shadow Monster can't get to them.

--Anonymous
replies 224Oct 30, 2017 7:58 PM +00:00

Speaking of...can someone fucking explain the upside down to me?

Yeah, I get that it's a mirror world of our own--only darker--hence the blue and black filters and crud growing on everything.

But like, who inhabits this world? It literally has all the same buildings and structures as our world, but who uses them? So far only the Shadow monster and Demogorgon creatures roam this place. But why do these creatures need a school gym, a library, or an arcade?

If it's a mirror world, shouldn't there be mirror opposites of the characters--like an evil doppelgänger--living in it?

Or, are the monsters just metaphors--physicals manifestations of our darker thoughts and impulses?

If it were another dimension, filled with creatures from their own ecosystem bleeding into our world due to an open portal, like in "The Mist," that would make more sense to me, but I'm confused what the actual concept is surround the upside down.

Anyone care to enlighten?

--Anonymous
replies 225Oct 30, 2017 8:26 PM +00:00

For those who wanted to see Joe Keery's bulge while walking in tight jeans, check out the video between about the 0:50 and 3:15 marks. In the interview above Joe commented how the jeans kept riding up into his crotch during this scene.

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--Anonymous
replies 226Oct 30, 2017 9:45 PM +00:00

r225, It's not fully explained on the show, but it's "just" a random paralell universe Eleven opened a portal to when she enountered the Demagorgon the first time. Will mentioned in this season that when he was in the Upside Down seeing the shadow monster he was frozen in fear. The Upside Down is more about the emotional state of fear and dread than having an actual purpuse of being habitable by bizarre mirror versions of humans in the real world (for now, who knows what the Durrell brothers have in mind for future seasons?). To me it's like giving these human, emotional states a place to thrive and prosper and to get ready for, well, something.

--Anonymous
replies 227Oct 30, 2017 10:20 PM +00:00

All I (think I) know is that the Upside Down is another dimension that Eleven was somehow able to access using her powers. Then she created a gate when she encountered a demagorgon.

--Anonymous
replies 228Oct 30, 2017 10:46 PM +00:00

r228. Those are two different realms or dimensions. One is what Eleven uses her power to locate far away people and the other one is the Upside Down. Notice that one is just black and minimalist while the other one is a dark, grisly, rotting version of the real world.

--Anonymous
replies 229Oct 30, 2017 10:54 PM +00:00

r228, my apologies I misread your post.

--Anonymous
replies 230Oct 30, 2017 10:54 PM +00:00

I loved the exchange between Mike's mom and Billy. He looked so hot and charming. That actor is definitely going to get more roles from this show. He kinda stole the show this season. I'm also in love with Joe Keery now.

--Anonymous
replies 231Oct 30, 2017 11:08 PM +00:00

Basically, the "Upsidedown" is a parallel dimension/world where the shadow monster invaded and destroyed everything and killed everyone. And now he's trying to make it into the next dimension, our own.

--Anonymous
replies 232Oct 31, 2017 4:08 AM +00:00
Joe Keery's bulge

I remember when bulges were bulgy.

--Then again, I'm old.
replies 233Oct 31, 2017 4:10 AM +00:00

Thanks, R226, but I guess I'm just not seeing it. Mostly he has the bucket in front hiding anything, and the few moments he doesn't, it just looks like fabric bunching up, not anything sexy or enticing.

--Anonymous
replies 234Oct 31, 2017 4:13 AM +00:00

Billy's butt

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--Anonymous
replies 235Oct 31, 2017 5:53 AM +00:00

He's cute. He's got an old fashioned silent movie star kind of face. Does he have a double row of lashes.

He has a sort of wide, flattish butt.

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--Anonymous
replies 236Oct 31, 2017 5:59 AM +00:00

Dacre says he doesn't see Billy as racist or gay.

Dacre Montgomery wants to clear some things up about Billy and Lucas.
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--Anonymous
replies 237Oct 31, 2017 12:34 PM +00:00

The gay part, okay fine, although I disagree with him.

The racist part, however...

Also, even if the Duffer Bros hadn't intended people to read Billy as gay, I wonder if the fact that people did might make them switch lanes for the next season. They didn't expect the internet's reaction to Barb, and ended up making her a huge part of this season to bring some closure to her story.

--Anonymous
replies 238Oct 31, 2017 1:20 PM +00:00

I just finished it. I think it probably should have been one or maybe even two episodes less. I didn’t like the demadog concept at all, it just felt like sequilitus. The more intriguing concept of the smoke monster was largely overshadowed for repeats of the “trapped in a closed facility with monsters” trope.

I thought Sean Astin was absolutely horrible, it was like he had never acted before. I liked seeing Paul Reiser but was disappointed his character wasn’t evil, and didn’t have much to do in the end. I also felt Dacre Montgomery wasn’t given enough to do.

The kids are all phenomenal, I liked Mike less this season but Dustin and Lucas were phenomenal, and Max was a great find. I didn’t care for Nancy and Jonathan this season. Steve is really becoming a future star.

--Anonymous
replies 239Oct 31, 2017 6:48 PM +00:00
The more intriguing concept of the smoke monster was largely overshadowed for repeats of the “trapped in a closed facility with monsters” trope.

Smoke Monster = LOST

Shadow Monster = Stranger Things

--Anonymous
replies 240Oct 31, 2017 6:51 PM +00:00

It’s a monster made of smoke

--Anonymous
replies 241Oct 31, 2017 6:52 PM +00:00

r421, no, it isn't.

--Anonymous
replies 242Oct 31, 2017 6:53 PM +00:00

Yes it is

--Anonymous
replies 243Oct 31, 2017 7:25 PM +00:00
Speaking of...can someone fucking explain the upside down to me?

Leslie Jones can

In season 2 of Stranger Things, Lucas' parents (Leslie Jones, Kenan Thompson) put a stop to Lucas (Sasheer Zamata) spending so much time with Mike (Kyle Moon...
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--Anonymous
replies 244Oct 31, 2017 7:29 PM +00:00

Does anyone else feel Steve should have died at the end of this season? I felt his character arc was complete.

--Anonymous
replies 245Oct 31, 2017 7:30 PM +00:00

Does Finn present hole?

--Frank Underwood
replies 246Oct 31, 2017 7:52 PM +00:00

If next season will gets repossessed or something to that vein then I'm out, this season didn't have much new concepts from season 1. Nothing about this season was a risk. Eleven phoenixing out was also lame. There's only one jean grey and she is fierce.

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--Anonymous
replies 247Oct 31, 2017 7:53 PM +00:00

The set up a couple of thing. "Papa" being alive, for one.

--Anonymous
replies 248Oct 31, 2017 7:55 PM +00:00

They set up a couple of things. "Papa" being alive, for one.

Sorry for the typos.

--Anonymous
replies 249Oct 31, 2017 7:56 PM +00:00

This may be not be a prevalent sentiment, but I liked season 2 better than season 1. I think it avoided the second season pitfalls very well, while further developing and capitalizing on the best aspects and characters from the first season.

--Anonymous
replies 250Oct 31, 2017 8:16 PM +00:00

The demodogs didn't give me the uneasyness like the demogorgon did, the dogs were so unoriginal.

--Anonymous
replies 251Oct 31, 2017 9:51 PM +00:00

Yeah, I felt Phoenix!Eleven wasn't earned at all. She's gone the whole season, then suddenly comes back and, wha-la, closes the portal and saves everyone.

Totally undermines any tension to what should've been an amazing moment.

I'm really trying not to pick season 2 apart, because I did like some things, but overall, the more I re-visit my thoughts on it, the more the writing it falls apart.

--Anonymous
replies 252Oct 31, 2017 10:11 PM +00:00

I like how R252’s last paragraph rhymes.

--Anonymous
replies 253Oct 31, 2017 11:43 PM +00:00

R251 it reminded me of how the xenomorph in Alien3 (also dog-inspired) was not as horrifying as the human-born xenomorph from the first two Alien films

--Anonymous
replies 254Nov 1, 2017 1:18 AM +00:00

I think the homoerotic angle is pretty interesting. I mean, are there movies, with that 80s retro feel, dealing and exploring further the whole homoerotic angle from movies in that era beyond making fun of it? The only thing that comes to mind is the Stranger Things ripoff episode form Dimension 404.

Warning, link leads to review of the episode Polybius (of Hulu's Dimension 404) which gives away major spoilers.

"Polybius" - Dimension 404 S01E04 Review (spoilers)
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--Anonymous
replies 255Nov 1, 2017 2:12 AM +00:00

Can we discuss whether the series deserves its stellar reputation? After having watched season one, I feel like this show only deserves high marks in an entertainment desert. The story was interesting until the slimy wall monster showed up, and then it plummeted to an X-Files filler episode level. Or maybe one of those smart X-Files parody-comedy episodes, except without realizing it should be a comedy. Good ingredients, really dumb realization of its premise IMO.

--Anonymous
replies 256Nov 1, 2017 2:33 AM +00:00

I think this is mostly a genre exercise. I like it a lot.

--Anonymous
replies 257Nov 1, 2017 2:36 AM +00:00

To piggyback what R247 said, I would point out that the reason Season 1 was so effective was that they did take risks like killing off Barb. I did not feel any of the main cast was in danger in this season, you could sort of tell that Sean Astin was going to be be the one to die, I thought Paul Reiser might die or Dacre too and they didn't. It was just too "play it safe" and that diminished the risk and reward.

--Anonymous
replies 258Nov 1, 2017 2:37 AM +00:00

...The reason Game of Thrones has been as successful for so long is because they regularly killed off central characters. You need that tension.

--Anonymous
replies 259Nov 1, 2017 2:40 AM +00:00

...even the 80s books and films they are pastiching would have put the characters in more danger. Stephen King would have killed off the adorable little sister of Lucas.

--Anonymous
replies 260Nov 1, 2017 2:43 AM +00:00

The show's main appeal is the retro feeling. Killing off main characters, for shock value, is a modern day TV show thing. This wasn't done in the 80s. It's like complaining that the show doesn't feel fresh, because it doesn't use modern day props. I don't think the show's intention is to put a full on modern day spin on 80s action / adventure / fantasy / horror movies and compromise its 80s feel.

--Anonymous
replies 261Nov 1, 2017 2:44 AM +00:00
Killing off main characters, for shock value, is a modern day TV show thing. This wasn't done in the 80s.

Bish plee

--Valerie Harper
replies 262Nov 1, 2017 2:46 AM +00:00

Game of Thrones introduced the no-one-is-too-important-to-avo - id-consequences aspect of dramatic storytelling that made it exceptional. And then others emulated it. And others emulated it and then violated it by killing characters and then cheating the death and then reviving the dead person or people. American Horror Story stopped being scary and stopped being worth watching in the Coven season when half the witches were killed by the end, and all of them were still alive despite having been killed. Then Jon Snow was “killed” only to be predictably Jesus-resurrected, which was perhaps forgivable given that he was clearly made to emulate and even resemble Jesus Christ. But now GoT has full-on violated the standard it set for itself, with Jamie Lannister suffering a certain death by drowning and inexplicably swimming miles off camera in heavy armor with one hand only to pop up fresh as a daisy on the safe side of a lake, and countless characters in certain-death situations surviving without scratches last season. The commitment to life-or-death stakes in entertainment isn’t maintainable even for the series that raised the bar on dramatic storytelling.

--Anonymous
replies 263Nov 1, 2017 2:48 AM +00:00

I was born in 1978 and even growing up in the 80s, I don’t recall any delusions that 80s entertainment was very well done. All my life I actually considered the 80s to be a low point in film and television, with countless women-in-peril suspense movies, formulaic, mindless sitcoms, etc. Fatal Attraction was among the most memorable of the era and it isn’t a good movie if we are being objective. John Hughes movies get a lot of credit, and it’s a lot more than it deserves IMO. I just googled “best 80s movies,” and almost all the “best” movies are the best among uncreative least-common-denominator pop films. ET is one. I can give it some credit, but Spielberg’s direction in almost everything feels formulaic and emotionally pandering to me. Dirty Dancing, Pretty In Pink, Flashdance, Top Gun...? Not a great entertainment era. Even a serious movie like Platoon was 80s-glossy. Kubrick released Full Metal Jacket and The Shining in the 80s, so I can give it that. But mostly the 80s gave us Risky Business, Cocktail, Working Girl, and endless teen sex comedies. Shitty decade all around.

--Anonymous
replies 264Nov 1, 2017 2:59 AM +00:00

Five of AFI’s top 100 movies were released in the 1980s. The whole Stranger-Things-is-good-BECAUS - E-it-emulates-an-80s-movie theory is based on highly questionable logic.

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--Anonymous
replies 265Nov 1, 2017 3:03 AM +00:00

The 80s are remembered for its pop entertainments, not for its groundbreaking filmmaking.

--Anonymous
replies 266Nov 1, 2017 3:57 AM +00:00
Can we discuss whether the series deserves its stellar reputation?

"Stranger Things" is one of my favorite shows I watch, but I have never considered it one of the best shows I watch.

And that is perfectly okay.

--Anonymous
replies 267Nov 1, 2017 8:46 AM +00:00

R267 I get that. That makes sense to me. People in my office discuss it as a brilliant, thrilling, unpredictable and imaginative series. That does not make sense to me. But only because it is none of those things.

But if your favorite dessert is a Slurped, I don’t begrudge you that.

--Anonymous
replies 268Nov 1, 2017 8:48 AM +00:00

*Slurpee

--R268
replies 269Nov 1, 2017 8:49 AM +00:00

I thought the Ghostbusters suits were totally wasted. And why the hell did Nancy and Steve go to Barb's parent's house to eat food? A total waste of screen time. The writing this season was just not up to par.

--Anonymous
replies 270Nov 1, 2017 8:53 AM +00:00
The gay part, okay fine, although I disagree with him. The racist part, however...

Yeah, to me it was just a clear case of the actor seeing the good in their character, which is what actors always do.

To me Billy's line read as racist, and more importantly I think Billy's should be read racist. It is silly to think the fact Lucas is black is something that no one will care about or bring up, the world doesn't work that way that now, and that was especially fuckin true in this time period.

--Anonymous
replies 271Nov 1, 2017 8:59 AM +00:00

Tom&Lorenzo are calling the Billy scenes "salutes to ’80s teen flick homoeroticism" which makes me think he's actually straight. And I hate that.

In a recent post and podcast, we admitted that we found the critical and viewer reactions to the first season of Stranger Things to be more than a little b
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--Anonymous
replies 272Nov 1, 2017 12:22 PM +00:00

Are either of the Duffers gay?

--Too lazy to check
replies 273Nov 1, 2017 12:24 PM +00:00

Nancy and Steve go see Barb's parents out of respect, kindness and community solidarity. Its a sort of charity visit. That's the way neighbourhoods used to work, you know.

--Anonymous
replies 274Nov 1, 2017 12:35 PM +00:00

That scene was important for their plot. It shows why they want to get Justice for Barb, her parents are still going crazy over her disappearance and they deserve closure.

--Anonymous
replies 275Nov 1, 2017 12:35 PM +00:00
Nancy and Steve go see Barb's parents out of respect, kindness and community solidarity. Its a sort of charity visit. That's the way neighbourhoods used to work, you know.

Ok, I don't want Hallmark. I want sci-fi and horror. Which we could have got if they had brought back Barb. Either the original Barb or the Upside Down Barb.

--Anonymous
replies 276Nov 1, 2017 2:06 PM +00:00

When the show turned into a BAD Stephen King movie in episode 9 I realized I had just spent 8 hours watching pure crap. I fastforwarded through the rest of the episode, and then through the finale as well. In the end I felt I hadn't missed a thing. I won't be returning next year.

BTW, those dogs with flower heads were probably the most unimaginative monsters I've seen in a long time. And the CGI on them was just awful.

--Anonymous
replies 277Nov 1, 2017 3:06 PM +00:00

I bet your meal tonight was pure shit, as well, R277.

--Bah Humbug.
replies 278Nov 1, 2017 3:10 PM +00:00

R278, no, I rather enjoyed it. Even though I can't say Stranger Things has ever been my favorite show as an 80s child I absolutely enjoyed seeing my childhood come alive onscreen. I did like the first few episodes but something just started going wrong at some point, and it really culminated in episode 9 which was a series low in almost every way. To be honest I probably got pissed off when the word faggot was used in a show that quite probably has tons of kids watching it. It was all dowhill after that, and during the episode 9 I just realized I'm not buying anything I'm seeing anymore. The show lost its credibility and unfortunately it's extremely hard for a show to become watchable again after that.

--Anonymous
replies 279Nov 1, 2017 4:00 PM +00:00

I wonder if the demo-dogs were inspired by this.

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--Anonymous
replies 280Nov 1, 2017 4:05 PM +00:00

More like these guys in keeping with the GB theme.

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--Anonymous
replies 281Nov 1, 2017 4:08 PM +00:00

The flower design of the heads is a lot like that scene from The Thing.

--Anonymous
replies 282Nov 1, 2017 4:11 PM +00:00
Does anyone else feel Steve should have died at the end of this season? I felt his character arc was complete.

No, Steve was great this season. I liked his scenes with the kids. If they want to kill some main characters off, they are welcome to end ugly, anorexic Nancy's run on the show. She can take her coke-snorting dirty rag boyfriend with her.

--Anonymous
replies 283Nov 1, 2017 5:03 PM +00:00
When the show turned into a BAD Stephen King movie

Are there any good Stephen King movies?

--Anonymous
replies 284Nov 1, 2017 6:43 PM +00:00

R284 The shining?

--Anonymous
replies 285Nov 1, 2017 7:32 PM +00:00

Good Stephen King movies include "Stand By Me" and "The Shawshank Redemption" and probably "The Green Mile".

There's no good HORROR move based on a Stephen King work though, imho.

--Anonymous
replies 286Nov 1, 2017 7:36 PM +00:00

Dolores Claiborne. Pet Sematary.

--Anonymous
replies 287Nov 1, 2017 7:37 PM +00:00

"The Mist" was also great.

And, hello, "Misery" also.

There's been lots of great adaptations of his work. He really is a great writer. So many interesting stories he's written.

--Anonymous
replies 288Nov 1, 2017 8:18 PM +00:00

I noticed Mullet clearly didn't know how to smoke cigs in the first couple of episodes, which he admits a later director finally taught him how to smoke correctly.

And surprised they smoke real cigs and not those fake ones.

A spoiler-filled chat with Hawkins, Indiana’s newest bully.
HWD
--Anonymous
replies 289Nov 2, 2017 7:52 AM +00:00

Billy was a waste of space. If he wasn't hot (and I don't think he was, but all of you are swooning like you're in heat), then none of you would be praising him. Shitty character and shitty actor.

I wondered if perhaps Mike's reduced role this season was to give Finn Wolfhard time off to shoot It.

Nancy and Jonathan are two of the dullest characters (and actors around). Get rid of them.

Winona was definitely better this season. She had a few cringeworthy moments, but she also had some strong moments. Last season she was an embarrassment every time she was onscreen.

As big of a waste of space and screen time as Billy was, his step-sister was fantastic.

Glad to see Lucas and Will can actually act. Last season we didn't get to see much of them.

The Chicago episode was a POS, and the "gang" was so ludicrous it felt like they would have been more at home on an episode of "Manimal."

I found it interesting how much bigger MBB got (in terms of aging/growing) than the boys did. They felt believably 1 year older but she went through a real spurt and it was funny to watch them try and hide it.

Joe Keery is really talented, and I'm guessing the Duffer Bros realized what they had with him and that's why they didn't kill him off. Still, would have really liked to have seen more of him (because he is so talented).

How many movie homages did you all count this season? I came up with at least 10, from The Thing to Aliens to Jurassic Park to Gremlins and beyond.

--Anonymous
replies 290Nov 2, 2017 9:21 AM +00:00

R290 She's a brit, they age in dog years.

--Anonymous
replies 291Nov 2, 2017 2:13 PM +00:00

I agree the Chicago episode was weakest, but to me it came across as an homage to the Shadowrun role-playing game system between the wardrobe, group composition, plot and setting. The main Stranger Things setting has a strong Dungeons and Dragons motif and Chicago was a way for Eleven to have her own party for a while this season albeit in a different game universe (and one that didn't debut until 1989 at that).

--Anonymous
replies 292Nov 2, 2017 2:18 PM +00:00

I liked It. Did anyone say Carrie?

I was going through my old EW with ST on cover. They had a picture of Mullet with wrong name.

--Anonymous
replies 293Nov 2, 2017 2:37 PM +00:00

Hollywood Accolades for Stranger Things 2:

Gripping story, great performances, and a lot of cute guys!

--- Kevin Spacey

--Now its getting scary....
replies 294Nov 2, 2017 2:47 PM +00:00

I hated Lucas last season.

I loved him this season.

--Anonymous
replies 295Nov 2, 2017 4:52 PM +00:00

Yes the actor playing Lucas vastly improved between seasons and shows potential star magnetism.

--Anonymous
replies 296Nov 2, 2017 4:54 PM +00:00

I also asked that question r273. No one knows. Mullet had Thanksgiving with The Brothers and said they were with their ‘partner ‘. When Mullet was talking on Beyond the brother e suspect is gay was giving a secret look to the gay host.

Sure there was flaws but ST entertained me more than any TV series I watched and that includes GOT.

--Anonymous
replies 297Nov 2, 2017 5:39 PM +00:00
Mullet had Thanksgiving with The Brothers and said they were with their ‘partner ‘.

Meaning the twins were with each other.

--Anonymous
replies 298Nov 2, 2017 7:53 PM +00:00

I also liked Gerald’s Game on Netflix.

--Anonymous
replies 299Nov 2, 2017 8:24 PM +00:00
Yes the actor playing Lucas vastly improved between seasons and shows potential star magnetism.

To be fair, they gave Lucas virtually nothing to do in Season 1. He was just there. But he certainly rose to the challenge this season and was quite good. All the kids are good. If only they'd cast the teenagers with such care. Steve is the only one they got right.

--Anonymous
replies 300Nov 3, 2017 8:05 AM +00:00

I didn’t like it when Steve was getting the crap beat out of him and only Max did something about it.

I don’t get the argument about Ghostbusters. Did Lucas not want to be Ernie Hudson. Did political correctness exist in the 80s? What was wrong with saying Lucas you should be him because you are black?

--Anonymous
replies 301Nov 3, 2017 12:23 PM +00:00
The actress was great, hope they give her a little more to do in season 3.

It took me a minute to realize Dustin's mom used to play a prison guard on Orange Is The New Black

--Anonymous
replies 302Nov 3, 2017 1:36 PM +00:00
The demodogs didn't give me the uneasyness like the demogorgon did

That damn "polywog" gave me the creeps and scared me from the get go

--Anonymous
replies 303Nov 3, 2017 2:12 PM +00:00

A small town in Indiana in the 80s would NEVER have let a white girl dance with a black boy.

--Anonymous
replies 304Nov 3, 2017 4:40 PM +00:00

Here's a question: In season 1, when Joyce was using the christmas-light-bulb ouija board to talk to Will, Will warns her to run, and then a monster breaks through the wall into the living room? Why couldn't Will also run through that portal back to his living room?

--Anonymous
replies 305Nov 3, 2017 5:28 PM +00:00

R301 Lucas says winston isn't funny, isn't a scientist, and joined the team late- that's why he didn't want to be him.

Winston was lame

--Anonymous
replies 306Nov 3, 2017 7:00 PM +00:00

And he (or mike) didn't want to be a lame character

--Anonymous
replies 307Nov 3, 2017 7:05 PM +00:00

It was a brilliant metacommentary on the token black character

--Anonymous
replies 308Nov 4, 2017 3:45 AM +00:00

I feel the same as R277. I don’t begrudge anyone who likes corny, thoughtless horror. I know lots of people do. But how the marketing of this show ever convinced people it’s brilliant and deserves to be a word-of-mouth classic is way beyond me. It isn’t close to that good.

--Anonymous
replies 309Nov 4, 2017 3:50 AM +00:00

Apparently The Stranger Things kids (particularly Finn), have been getting some creepy sexual attention

I didn't think this would be an article that I'd ever have to write because it seems so deeply obvious, but at the moment there's been a worrying trend occurring unchecked on social media, and
Affinity Magazine
--Anonymous
replies 310Nov 4, 2017 7:53 AM +00:00

Yeah, Millie Bobby Brown got voted Sexiest Celebrity on some poll, and she's 13! Internet creeps have no shame. She does dress and act sophisticated for her age, but in no way does she come across as sexy. It reminds me of when Reddit pervs obsessed over an underaged Emma Watson for years.

--Anonymous
replies 311Nov 4, 2017 1:30 PM +00:00

Who the fuck's looking at kids when there's hot ass chubby Hopper running around?

--Anonymous
replies 312Nov 4, 2017 6:14 PM +00:00

I hope we've seen the last of eight's ridiculous gang. Mohawk man was particularly stupid. I didn't mind the deviation for one episode, but no more please.

--Anonymous
replies 313Nov 4, 2017 6:16 PM +00:00

I wouldn't mind seeing Eight again. But definitely not her compatriots.

--Anonymous
replies 314Nov 4, 2017 6:40 PM +00:00

To me it is just funny because one of the primary roles of the Mullet character is to be eye-candy, they constantly filmed him sexualized as hell (which we responded too), but to the creepers I guess he isn't young enough.

--Anonymous
replies 315Nov 4, 2017 8:11 PM +00:00
I wouldn't mind seeing Eight again. But definitely not her compatriots.

Stranger Things doesn't have that many episodes, given we got an episode devoted to Eight I feel like she has to show up again. But yes, she doesn't need her ridiculous circus gang.

--Anonymous
replies 316Nov 4, 2017 8:17 PM +00:00
I wouldn't mind seeing Eight again. But definitely not her compatriots.

That was clearly a "Firestarter" like setup for next season when they will likely attempt to find out about this program that Eight and Eleven were a part of. Eleven can find "her sister" wherever she is in the future.

The episode was extremely out of place and the things Eleven learned about her powers and her past should have been better integrated into the season and the introduction to Eight's gang should have been saved for next season.

--Anonymous
replies 317Nov 4, 2017 8:39 PM +00:00

Seeing the actress interviewed and how thirsty she is ruined El for me

--Anonymous
replies 318Nov 4, 2017 8:41 PM +00:00

El also has a super thirsty stage parent.

--Anonymous
replies 319Nov 5, 2017 1:22 PM +00:00

Millie has a dadager who is kris kardashian like.

--Anonymous
replies 320Nov 5, 2017 1:35 PM +00:00

I think Millie is homely though her looks work for the part of El

--Anonymous
replies 321Nov 5, 2017 2:58 PM +00:00

She looks fine. The homely one is Jonathan. What an uggo!

--Anonymous
replies 322Nov 5, 2017 3:07 PM +00:00

Yeah, Charlie Heaton should make up for his looks by being compelling. He hasn’t risen to the challenge.

I mean he’s a twink, so I wouldn’t kick him out of bed or anything, but he needs to try harder.

--Anonymous
replies 323Nov 5, 2017 3:10 PM +00:00

I don't think Eleven or Jane was sidelined this season. She got her own plot. If anyone was sidelined, it was Mike. Wasn't he the leader of the kids in Season 1?

--Anonymous
replies 324Nov 6, 2017 9:39 AM +00:00

Has anyone watched that interminably awful chat show, Beyond Stranger Things? Everyone talks over each other and you have the odious host Jim Rash queening it up in the corner, and the chinless wonder-hack Shawn Levy bogarding the entire show.

The Duffer Brothers are cute as hell, though.

--Anonymous
replies 325Nov 6, 2017 10:37 AM +00:00

R234 Yeah I watched the entire season, and am also very attracted to Steve, and did not notice anything.

--Anonymous
replies 326Nov 6, 2017 10:50 AM +00:00

Mike was probably too busy filming It.

--Anonymous
replies 327Nov 6, 2017 10:52 AM +00:00

I stayed up most of the night binge watching all the episodes of season 2 and when the Beyond Stranger Things r325 came up on my screen afterwards I didn't bother to watch because I had to go to sleep. I watch The Walking Dead but I don't care much for Talking Dead so I was leery.

I noticed this time around Millie is being interviewed separately on talk shows like Tonight Show which kind of turns me off, but I guess kudos to her management.

--Anonymous
replies 328Nov 6, 2017 10:52 AM +00:00

I feel like those after-show talk things are usually lowest common denominator appeal and rarely have interesting discussion.

--Anonymous
replies 329Nov 6, 2017 11:03 AM +00:00

The main problem I had with the season was how various plotlines took so many detours instead of resolving themselves in a natural way. Hopper was the most problematic for me. I didn't like Hopper's character essentially taking Eleven hostage. It just didn't jive well with his character. Secondly, the road trip with Jonathan and Nancy was odd as having government officials shut down or investigate the lab could have been a disaster as no one but Paul Reiser and his team knew how to deal with the creatures from the upside down. How did Paul Reiser escape persecution anyway? Wouldn't he be incriminated in a criminal investigation? It just seemed like a hare brained scheme by Nancy, even though her intentions were good.

Lastly, if Hopper knew of Eleven's wherabouts the whole time, why didn't she get involved much sooner? She did banish the creatures before, why not enlist her again? Why did Hopper insist on investigating it alone? The entire sequence where Joyce uses Will's painting to track down the Hub could have been completely eliminated if all Hopper did was inform them where he was going instead of just getting up and leaving on his own.

Eleven's whole side plot never really went anywhere since after tracking down her sister, she then decides to come back home. I guess they could still develop that story in future seasons, but it just feels like something they did just to keep her occupied.

Lastly, why would Nancy dump Steve for Jonathan? Steve is pretty much perfect.

--Anonymous
replies 330Nov 6, 2017 11:04 AM +00:00

Steve was an asshole last season. He seems to have come out a better person this year.

--Anonymous
replies 331Nov 6, 2017 11:06 AM +00:00

And Jonathan is U-G-L-Y

--Anonymous
replies 332Nov 6, 2017 11:07 AM +00:00

Jonathan is hideous as fuck, has the personality of a corpse and looks 40. His hair is thinning, too.

--Anonymous
replies 333Nov 6, 2017 11:07 AM +00:00
Lastly, why would Nancy dump Steve for Jonathan? Steve is pretty much perfect.

Watch season 1 again, yes they made Steve super likable in Season 2 but originally his character was more of a dick.

How did Paul Reiser escape persecution anyway?

I laughed at that as well, it was his voice on the tape. He would have been the first to go down.

why didn't she get involved much sooner?

Because they didn't want her to.

--Anonymous
replies 334Nov 6, 2017 11:08 AM +00:00
Watch season 1 again, yes they made Steve super likable in Season 2 but originally his character was more of a dick.

But Nancy was already back with him at the end of Season 1. It was just bad storytelling.

--Anonymous
replies 335Nov 6, 2017 11:11 AM +00:00

I mean they gave an in-story reason for the break up, Steve was actively against getting closure for Barb's death whereas Nancy cared passionately about it.

--Anonymous
replies 336Nov 6, 2017 11:15 AM +00:00

It seemed like Steve was trying (and failing, but trying any way) to move on, and Nancy was stuck.

I went from "Nancy's too good for Steve" to "Steve's too good for Nancy" in about three episodes this season.

Frankly, Jonathan's too good for her too.

--Anonymous
replies 337Nov 6, 2017 11:21 AM +00:00

I don't mind Nancy, but WTF with her parents not caring she leaves for days at a time?!

And they seem to be comfortable financially, upper middle class. For godsakes why dont they buy her a car?

--Anonymous
replies 338Nov 6, 2017 11:26 AM +00:00
I don't mind Nancy, but WTF with her parents not caring she leaves for days at a time?!

She is like 16-17. It was weirder how apathetic they were about wondering where Will was.

--Anonymous
replies 339Nov 6, 2017 11:28 AM +00:00

For all of Dacre's talk about wearing a g-string for his Stranger Things audition, in the tape that is released there is no g-string. Don't know if it was edited out, or is he supposedly wearing a g-string below frame that no one can even see.

So yeah it is "released", but boring and completely unworthy of all the talk.

Dacre Montgomery, who plays Hawkins' new resident bully, was quite determined to make an impression.
GQ
--Anonymous
replies 340Nov 6, 2017 12:39 PM +00:00
So yeah it is "released", but boring and completely unworthy of all the talk.

Kind of like Dacre himself.

--Anonymous
replies 341Nov 6, 2017 12:53 PM +00:00

Alright, I laughed hard at that r341 and I've posted a lot about Dacre.

I completely get you, but you can't be surprised gay men were intrigued by his character. I mean in a show that doesn't normally go for eye-candy, he was always on camera looking straight off the set of a gay porno.

--Anonymous
replies 342Nov 6, 2017 1:03 PM +00:00

[R333] This. I was SHOCKED to find out the actor was only 23! Why on Earth are the bags under his eyes as awful as they are at 23. I guess the cocaine thing makes iit all make sense now. Are they what shot his looks or has he always looked like this?

--Anonymous
replies 343Nov 6, 2017 1:18 PM +00:00

Well, and he's British. You know how they do.

Also, he's from the North. That's a double-whammy.

--Anonymous
replies 344Nov 6, 2017 1:19 PM +00:00
Why on Earth are the bags under his eyes as awful as they are at 23. I guess the cocaine thing makes iit all make sense now.

I hate to break it to you but practically everyone in the entertainment industry at least dabbles with coke.

--Anonymous
replies 345Nov 6, 2017 1:21 PM +00:00

R345 I'm sure they do but I still think he's far too young to have bags like that. Even RDJ never looked as bad in his drug days as this kid does. Again, i can't believe he;s only 23.

--Anonymous
replies 346Nov 6, 2017 1:24 PM +00:00

R342 His body is ok, but I just can't get over his hair. It just cancels out EVERYTHING else hot about him.

--Anonymous
replies 347Nov 6, 2017 1:25 PM +00:00
I completely get you, but you can't be surprised gay men were intrigued by his character. I mean in a show that doesn't normally go for eye-candy, he was always on camera looking straight off the set of a gay porno.

Nope, I'm not shocked at all, and it's fine. Personally, I think they (the Duffers, Shawn Levy, etc.) failed with Billy on all fronts (except for the gay eye candy one, I guess). The character was pointless and the actor himself was unable to overcome the thinness of the writing. Personally, I didn't need any eye candy in Stranger Things because it's not that kind of show, but if I had to pick someone, I think Steve fills that category. And I've said before, Joe Keery was able to take a thin character like Steve (in Season 1) and imbue him with something that made you like him and pay attention to him in the way that I felt Dacre Montgomery couldn't.

While I certainly enjoyed this season, it did feel like the creators were throwing a lot against the window to see what would stick. Not surprising, as it feels like perhaps the DB were unclear on where the show was going after Season 1 and perhaps got taken by surprise with the success and the rapid need to come up with a 2nd season. I definitely feel like this is what happened with OITNB, and they completely botched that 2nd season (so the Duffers did okay, comparatively). As someone who's done it, I can tell you it's really difficult to do an entire season of a show in one fell swoop. You're constantly wondering what will hit with the audiences and what won't and if something or someone doesn't hit or doesn't work, you're stuck with it for the full season as opposed to phasing it out (or beefing it up if the reaction is good).

--Anonymous
replies 348Nov 6, 2017 1:25 PM +00:00

And I'm glad I made you laugh, R342. I meant it with no malice. : )

--R341
replies 349Nov 6, 2017 1:27 PM +00:00

Yes the episode where El meets her "sister", that whole caper was lame but seems like they are trying to branch out beyond the boys. I like the 4 boys better than El but I guess you have to figure they may hit an awkward age or run into problems so they probably want other options just in case.

--Anonymous
replies 350Nov 6, 2017 1:29 PM +00:00

I don't even mean his body or anything about him was so hot r347, just the way he was attired and and the way he was filmed was blatantly sexual. I mean his introductory shot even had a zoom in on his ass and characters commenting about it. He was treated in a way no other Stranger Things character has been.

--Anonymous
replies 351Nov 6, 2017 1:37 PM +00:00

And his flirting with Mike's mom... oh my!

--Anonymous
replies 352Nov 6, 2017 1:39 PM +00:00

That was Dacre's best scene acting wise as well r352. He is apparently better at flirting than other stuff they had him do.

--Anonymous
replies 353Nov 6, 2017 1:45 PM +00:00
The Duffer Brothers are cute as hell, though.

They really are. And they are twins as well. I always wonder how close male twins are sexually in their teens. There were twin brothers in my class at high school and they said they openly wanked in front of each other since they shared a room. It felt weird at the time but I sort of get it now. I've sometimes envied that kind of closeness. BTW, I have an older brother and I'd never in a million years would want to do or even discuss anything sexual with him.

I really didn't like this season of Stranger Things, in my eyes the show fell apart in episode 8, but at least the brothers are hottish.

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--Anonymous
replies 354Nov 6, 2017 4:02 PM +00:00
And they are twins as well.

The amusing anecdote is they don't know if they are fraternal or identical. They grew up assuming they were identical, til they found out their parents didn't actually know. And now they don't want to test it because they would be devastated if they weren't identical.

--Anonymous
replies 355Nov 6, 2017 4:06 PM +00:00

Russian interference!!!

I haven’t seen this big of backlash since La La Land. At first everyone was singing the praises of Mullet then all of sudden someone is posting he’s a bad actor and doesn’t add anything to the show. An insecure actor or his agent? If Steve we can like both of you. If Jonathan seem The Brothers have lost interest.

--Anonymous
replies 356Nov 6, 2017 5:33 PM +00:00

Nancy and Jonathan are dating in real life. They look much better outside of the show.

After almost a year of speculation, it appears Natalia Dyer and Charlie Heaton have finally gone public with their romance. On Monday, the Stranger Things
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--Anonymous
replies 357Nov 7, 2017 4:28 AM +00:00
Nancy and Jonathan are dating in real life. They look much better outside of the show.

Everybody looks better outside of the 80's.

--Fact. Look it up.
replies 358Nov 7, 2017 4:30 AM +00:00
Nancy and Jonathan are dating in real life. They look much better outside of the show.

Ah. She seemed pretty out of it on the press junket, but given her boyfriend had just been posted for coke that makes sense.

--Anonymous
replies 359Nov 7, 2017 4:32 AM +00:00

Can we talk about Matthew Modine’s agent? He only appeared in this episode in a few flashbacks, and yet he got top billing.

--Anonymous
replies 360Nov 7, 2017 4:37 AM +00:00

Torally agree with R142. Also, Eleven has such a Kristy McNichol thing going on it freaks me out. I grew up watching Kristy on TV. The romance between her and the boy just isn't working for me. Eleven is like the love child of Kristy and Carol on TWD. She would be more believable with Max.

--Anonymous
replies 361Nov 7, 2017 6:35 AM +00:00

Yeh i hate the puppy love storylines going on. Blech.

--Anonymous
replies 362Nov 7, 2017 6:38 AM +00:00
Can we talk about Matthew Modine’s agent? He only appeared in this episode in a few flashbacks, and yet he got top billing.

What are you talking about? Winona Ryder has top billing. Modine's name only appeared in the end credits when he was in an episode this season.

--Anonymous
replies 363Nov 7, 2017 8:15 AM +00:00

Correct r363.

The most unusual thing as we noted earlier was Cara Buono is credited as a series regular when she was barely in this season.

--Anonymous
replies 364Nov 7, 2017 8:17 AM +00:00

In the final episode, Matthew Modine’s credit is the first thing you see after the title. ‘Starnger Things starting Matthew Modine.”

--Anonymous
replies 365Nov 7, 2017 8:53 AM +00:00

S2 managed to live up to the hype which is not easy. I enjoyed it alone for the 80's attention to detail, which takes me back. Oh and Hopper's voice. He could read the phone book. The El actress has become insufferable already.

--Anonymous
replies 366Nov 7, 2017 8:59 AM +00:00

I find it so annoying with characters whom everyone calls by their last name, i.e. Hopper. It's SO bro and never happens in real life.

--Anonymous
replies 367Nov 7, 2017 9:07 AM +00:00
and never happens in real life.

You should get out more.

--Anonymous
replies 368Nov 7, 2017 9:09 AM +00:00

Oh don't encourage him r368.

--You just stay home R367.
replies 369Nov 7, 2017 9:09 AM +00:00

Really R368? You know someone whom you refer to by their last name? Do tell.

--Anonymous
replies 370Nov 7, 2017 9:10 AM +00:00
In the final episode, Matthew Modine’s credit is the first thing you see after the title. ‘Starnger Things starting Matthew Modine.”

Yes, dear. at the end, where the guest actors go. He is NOT in the main title credit sequence. And it says featuring, not starring.

--Anonymous
replies 371Nov 7, 2017 9:16 AM +00:00

Your obsessive investment in this teevee show is duly noted R371 and r365

--Anonymous
replies 372Nov 7, 2017 9:19 AM +00:00

Dacre would like you to know he is currently the most searched for celebrity on imdb

“Humbled. Thank you to all the people that have helped me along the way, I would not be here without any one of you. Friends. Family. Fans.??”
Twitter
--Anonymous
replies 373Nov 8, 2017 6:56 AM +00:00

Does anyone Dacre’s number? I’m a little down now and need something to um lift my spirits.

--Kevin
replies 374Nov 8, 2017 9:41 AM +00:00

I tried to watch his Power Ranger movie but it seemed to take itself too seriously.

--Anonymous
replies 375Nov 8, 2017 9:43 AM +00:00

Does the G String video really exist?

--Anonymous
replies 376Nov 8, 2017 4:30 PM +00:00

It exists but we will never see it.

--Anonymous
replies 377Nov 8, 2017 5:34 PM +00:00
It exists but we will never see it.

Agreed. It's clear, based on his very description of oiling himself up and dancing in a g string in every interview about his audition that they edited that portion of the video out.

What they showed in that clip was hardly something for Netflix employees to be abuzz about. It seems like they hacked that part off at the end of the video and threw his iMovie credits up there.

--Anonymous
replies 378Nov 8, 2017 9:05 PM +00:00

Darce doesn't have the teen boy ass that I was attracted to as a teen boy. His ass is wide, fleshy, and flattish.

--Anonymous
replies 379Nov 9, 2017 12:14 AM +00:00

He does have a great face and decent torso, and he really must have those double lashes mutation - distichiasis

I see a bit of young Ray liotta but much better skin. The face is old fashioned though, like a handsome character actors from the 30s. Not a refined rich boys face. The face of a pretty but violent thug. Well cast.

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--Anonymous
replies 380Nov 9, 2017 12:19 AM +00:00

This reminds me of so many gay directors casting dream boys get them nude and they are the only ones who get to see the goods. Tom Ford, that director you got Dawson Creek in a graphic gay scene and the director Call Me By My Name.

--Anonymous
replies 381Nov 9, 2017 12:28 AM +00:00

"...who knows what the Durrell brothers have in mind for future seasons?)"

Stranger Things in Corfu: It's All Greek To Me

--Anonymous
replies 382Nov 9, 2017 2:19 AM +00:00

S2 was disappointing. Pointless storyline and very predictable ending. All of the menace of the upside down was missing in S2. The shadow monster is truly one of the worst creations in the sci-fi genre. Nothing about it makes sense. S3 better take a hard left or I'm out.

--Anonymous
replies 383Nov 9, 2017 7:38 PM +00:00

Anyone else get major gay vibes off the Duffer Brothers and Shawn Levy during the Beyond Stranger Things Post Show?

Wiki says Shawn Levy is married... that's... surprising.

--Anonymous
replies 384Nov 10, 2017 6:13 AM +00:00

I don’t like to brag but I was the first to suspect one of The Brothers were gay. This was before I sawcBeyond and one came off as bitchy first episode.

--Anonymous
replies 385Nov 10, 2017 8:29 PM +00:00

Watch any of their interviews. The Duffer without the wedding ring definitely pings.

--Anonymous
replies 386Nov 10, 2017 8:37 PM +00:00

Straight men don’t crook their hand like this.

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--Anonymous
replies 387Nov 11, 2017 12:55 AM +00:00

Just watched it. I dug it, minus the "NYC" episode. It wasn't as good as season 1 but certainly no sophomore slump. Mullet and Steve are totally fucking next season.

--Anonymous
replies 388Nov 11, 2017 8:59 AM +00:00

The brother in R387 is removing invisible earrings. I used to do that all the time as a kid too. Especially before answering the phone.

--learned it from Mrs. Robinson
replies 389Nov 11, 2017 9:03 AM +00:00

R387 That's a good point, but if straight men don't do that, then a lot of people involved with this show are gay. I get the feeling the older gentleman who hosts the post-show is also gay. And Shawn Levy, and the kid who plays Mike and the kid who plays Will and didn't the person who plays Barb already come out of the closet?

Statistically, that wouldn't seem possible to have that many gay people working on one show, right?

But back to the cute brothers, while both of them pinged to me, the one with the white streak in his hair definitely pinged far more than the other. It would be so awesome if one of the creators of my favorite show turned out to also be gay.

--Anonymous
replies 390Nov 11, 2017 3:11 PM +00:00

Disappointed this thread is quiet today :/

--Anonymous
replies 391Nov 12, 2017 2:27 PM +00:00
And Shawn Levy, and the kid who plays Mike and the kid who plays Will and didn't the person who plays Barb already come out of the closet?

Why do you think those actors are gay? Though idk, they are 13 so I feel weird asking that.

And Shawn Levy is married to woman btw.

--Anonymous
replies 392Nov 12, 2017 2:29 PM +00:00

R392 I don't know if they are gay or not. The post I was replying to had an image of Matt Duffer engaged in a feminine mannerism with his hand as evidence that he was gay. Those other people I listed also have feminine mannerisms compared to their peers, but it does not mean they are gay. It was just in response to the previous post.

As for the two kids, there are gay 13-year-olds. I was one. Age doesn't have to do with whether someone is or is not gay because gay is biological. Age often has to do with whether someone is or is not out to themselves or others. I have no idea if they were are. I was saying that they tend to crook their fingers like that Matt Duffer guy in R387's image.

Shawn Levy being married is the biggest shock to me. He just really came off like he'd be on our team, not to mention he's really handsome. But, in that case, Shawn Levy would be a good example of why it is hard to tell for sure what someone's born sexuality is through their learned mannerisms.

--Anonymous
replies 393Nov 12, 2017 2:40 PM +00:00

The Onion reads Stranger Things season two.

LOS ANGELES—Saying that eagle-eyed fans on social media had already pointed out several of them, the creators of Stranger Things 2 revealed Tuesday that keen viewers will notice twinges of disappointment hidden in every scene. “Not to give too much away, but be on the lookout for the tiny letdowns we snuck in almost everywhere,” said series co-producer Matt Duffer, adding that the highly anticipated sequel was jam-packed from start to finish with little frustrations the casual viewer may not notice. “We didn’t want every disappointment to be completely in-your-face. In fact, you may have to watch the season twice to catch everything that makes you wonder why you bothered watching in the first place.” Duffer also emphasized, however, that even viewers who completely miss the hidden disappointments could still watch the entire season and be thoroughly disappointed all the same.
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--Anonymous
replies 394Nov 13, 2017 11:28 AM +00:00

As always the Onion nails it.

I had fun watching the season, but it is true the more you think about the more it falls apart.

--Anonymous
replies 395Nov 13, 2017 7:05 PM +00:00

R394 I don't know. I was truly not disappointed with this season. Episode 7, the bottle episode, was the only part of it that I wasn't gung-ho about.

I'm usually really picky about the quality of what I'm watching and I enjoyed Season 2 as much as Season 1.

Some of the imagery and lighting were even better than the first season. I loved the lighting in Baby's room when Jane/Eleven is at her mom's house. The look of warm light flooding in the window while El walked past was beautiful. I don't know if it was natural light if the used a bounce board or fluffed it up with diffuser and a 2K but it was beautiful. The use of blues and orange, even in scenes like the hotel room after Nancy and Jonathan turn off the lights, you can still see the color scheme shining just offscreen.

I thought the season was a beautifully shot work of art. Authentic art direction, throwback effects like the hazers used in the wooded scenes. I can tell a lot of hard work went into this.

Also, the story and acting. Those were also good parts.

--Anonymous
replies 396Nov 14, 2017 2:49 PM +00:00

More of shirtless Mullett

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--Anonymous
replies 397Nov 14, 2017 4:58 PM +00:00

Joe Keery (Steve) is on Seth Meyers right now

--Anonymous
replies 398Nov 14, 2017 8:19 PM +00:00

Is there a Stranger Things Season 1 thread? Just started watching so I don't want to read this thread yet. I tried the search function but this is the only thread that came up. Thanks!

--Stranger to Stranger Things
replies 399Nov 16, 2017 4:15 AM +00:00

here you go R399

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--Anonymous
replies 400Nov 16, 2017 4:20 AM +00:00

Thank you, R400!

--R399 aka Stranger to Stranger Things
replies 401Nov 16, 2017 5:18 AM +00:00

Just watched season two a second time.

--Anonymous
replies 402Nov 17, 2017 10:23 PM +00:00

Dacre wants you to know, he is such a big star now, he can't even go outside unless he disguises him from the fawning public.

I’ve been back in Perth, Australia, which is where I live when I’m not working. I went out the other day and I had just a mustache—a thick mustache and glasses and a hat on—and literally couldn’t move around wherever we were at, I think it was a bar or something. I think people just recognize the face shape, and anybody that we watch onscreen, I think, subconsciously, you kind of recognize their features and their gait, how they walk, everything. But I’ve got ways to hide myself now. I’m right in the middle of Sydney right now, in the middle of a square surrounded by hundreds of people, and I have my disguise sorted, which shall remain anonymous.

Dacre also wants you to know he has totally read this thread.

Totally. I read everything, mate. I don’t like having a huge response because I don’t want to be involved in a discussion about it, necessarily, but I’m extremely interested in how people see the character.
--Anonymous
replies 403Nov 20, 2017 12:29 PM +00:00

It's alright Dacre. I wish they hadn't put you or Max in the show as well so you could be spared this suffering.

--Anonymous
replies 404Nov 20, 2017 12:36 PM +00:00

Give us what we want. Whip out your dick.

--NOT Kevin Spacey
replies 405Nov 20, 2017 1:16 PM +00:00

I'd start with actually seeing Dacre in a g-string, that much hyped audition video was so disappointing.

--Anonymous
replies 406Nov 20, 2017 1:18 PM +00:00

Enjoy it, Dacre. It's over for you as soon as this show loses steam.

--Anonymous
replies 407Nov 20, 2017 1:29 PM +00:00

So Will probably is going to end up gay. Or at least the character was envisioned as such in the original show pitch.

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--Anonymous
replies 408Nov 20, 2017 2:05 PM +00:00

Yeah that is obviously their vision, they have purposely dropped a few is-Will-gay references in the show. Nice find though r408.

--Anonymous
replies 409Nov 20, 2017 2:10 PM +00:00

What is-Will-gay references did I miss, R409?

--Anonymous
replies 410Nov 20, 2017 2:15 PM +00:00

If the Duffers decide to go ahead with having one of the ST characters be gay, it does seem likely that it's either going to be Will or Billy (funny coincidence that they're both essentially named William). Both would be shocking.

--Anonymous
replies 411Nov 20, 2017 2:22 PM +00:00

Joyce mentions that her ex husband suspected Will is gay in one if the season 1 episodes.

--Anonymous
replies 412Nov 20, 2017 2:26 PM +00:00

Did you miss in season 1 where Joyce and Hopper are talking. He even directly asks her "is Will gay?", and she deflects and says "he is missing is what he is!" Her reaction was an implied "probably"

--Anonymous
replies 413Nov 20, 2017 2:27 PM +00:00

r410 Here's a non comprehensive list. Though I don't think Rainbows were really well known as being LGBT in the 80s. But I'm pretty sure he's got a crush on Mike as it explains a lot of his actions.

Possible hints from both Seasons 1 & 2 that Will Byers is potentially gay/an LGBTQ+ character
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--Anonymous
replies 414Nov 20, 2017 2:27 PM +00:00
If the Duffers decide to go ahead with having one of the ST characters be gay, it does seem likely that it's either going to be Will or Billy (funny coincidence that they're both essentially named William

So in the final season will Will and Billy ride off in the sunset to San Fransisco together?

--Anonymous
replies 415Nov 20, 2017 2:45 PM +00:00

Lol, 415. I think Joyce might have something to say about that. But maybe they can be roommates in the spin-off.

--Anonymous
replies 416Nov 20, 2017 2:48 PM +00:00

Billy will go to San Francisco alone and sign an exclusive contract with Falcon.

--Anonymous
replies 417Nov 20, 2017 3:00 PM +00:00

Joking aside I think they are more likely to give the character an affair with Mike's mom than have Billy be gay. God knows they need to think of something for Cara Buono to do since she is one of their series regulars.

--Anonymous
replies 418Nov 20, 2017 3:02 PM +00:00

Yeah, I'm still surprised at how little importance Mrs. Wheeler had this season vs. last season where she exactly seemed to care about her older children and their whereabouts.

--Anonymous
replies 419Nov 20, 2017 3:08 PM +00:00
Joking aside I think they are more likely to give the character an affair with Mike's mom than have Billy be gay. God knows they need to think of something for Cara Buono to do since she is one of their series regulars.

So wait a minute, I auditioned in my G-string and all I get is an affair with THAT frump??

--Dacre, feeling sexually harassed
replies 420Nov 21, 2017 9:11 AM +00:00

Dears, this is a sci-fi show not Dynasty.

--Anonymous
replies 421Nov 21, 2017 9:49 AM +00:00

r241 Did you miss the teenage love triangle? Its at least Riverdale.

--Anonymous
replies 422Nov 21, 2017 9:58 AM +00:00

Can they do a mash up with Eyewitness. Or introduce some 80s believable HS gay character.

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--Anonymous
replies 423Nov 21, 2017 10:19 AM +00:00

Billy looks like a narc posing as a student on "21 Jump Street."

--Anonymous
replies 424Nov 21, 2017 10:38 AM +00:00

Lol, he is "only" 22. God knows Hollywood teenagers have been older.

--Stockard Channing
replies 425Nov 21, 2017 10:45 AM +00:00

I love how some people insist on describing MBB as if she’s Mary Poppins, when she lived in Spain the first four years of her life and has lived in the USA the past six — the longest she’s lived anywhere. She just lived in the UK for four years, between the time she was four and eight.

--Anonymous
replies 426Nov 22, 2017 6:59 PM +00:00

Season Two...lame and forgettable.

--Anonymous
replies 427Nov 22, 2017 7:10 PM +00:00

Far from perfect but I was entertained. Mullet was a plus.

--Anonymous
replies 428Nov 23, 2017 6:18 AM +00:00

By the way David Harbour’s instagram is very entertaining. He has a great sense of humor.

--Anonymous
replies 429Nov 23, 2017 2:41 PM +00:00

David Harbour seems to be an all-round delightful human being, r429. I also want to climb him like a tree.

--Anonymous
replies 430Nov 23, 2017 3:22 PM +00:00

Especially with him in his Hellboy shape.

--Anonymous
replies 431Nov 23, 2017 3:52 PM +00:00

If all the gays just keep saying it, we can make it happen right?

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--Anonymous
replies 432Nov 29, 2017 4:32 AM +00:00

r432 I don't particularly want it though. The bully being mean because he's a repressed homosexual who's beaten by his dad is one old trope I don't want ST to repeat.

--Anonymous
replies 433Nov 29, 2017 4:40 AM +00:00

It was a foregone conclusion, but season 3 is officially renewed.

The interesting tidbit is Netflix wanted to film s3 and s4 back-to-back to help fight the aging of the actors, and the Duffer brothers refused.

The breakout series filled with supernatural secrets and 1980s nostalgia will return for a third season.
The Hollywood Reporter
--Anonymous
replies 434Dec 1, 2017 8:44 AM +00:00

I fucking hated Season Two. They took everything that was fresh and original in the first season and destroyed it.

--Anonymous
replies 435Dec 1, 2017 9:29 AM +00:00

Take a chill pill, R435. And find something more substantial than a TV show to believe in.

--Anonymous
replies 436Dec 1, 2017 9:48 AM +00:00

"To believe in"? what the fuck are you talking about? You know nothing about me or my life. Fuck off.

--Anonymous
replies 437Dec 1, 2017 6:29 PM +00:00

R408 They would never have the guts to "out" Will now that the show has become such a hit, it would p.o. too many mid-western housewives.

That being said, I wonder if this could be another sign that one of the Duffers is gay or bisexual? I feel like they poured so much of themselves into these young characters, it wouldn't be an extraordinary leap for that tidbit to be autobiographical as well.

I'm still floored that Shawn Levy is married. Such a waste. He was so handsome on Beyond Stranger Things.

--Anonymous
replies 438Dec 1, 2017 11:48 PM +00:00

r438 I wouldn't say it's impossible. Even the Disney Channel has gay middle schoolers now. At the least I can see them carrying on dropping hints that he's gay like in r414 , and not have him date anyone in Highschool unlike the other kids to make it clear he's not straight. That approach wouldn't overly bother me I don't really expect a timid kid in the 80s who's been bullied for years, living in small town America to come charging out of the closet (before college anyway).

Plus the actor didn't really seem up for Will being outed.

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--Anonymous
replies 439Dec 2, 2017 2:47 AM +00:00

I never paid attention to the Duffer brothers but they were on that late night Carson Daley show and they were cuties. Looks like they spiffed themselves up after the first season.

--Anonymous
replies 440Dec 2, 2017 2:31 PM +00:00

I don't watch the show, but the curly haired chunky one with fucked up teeth sang the national anthem last night at a NY Rangers game and the clip was posted on their FB page. The comment section is flooded with posts about how over exposed this kid is and how lots of fans cannot stand him.

--Anonymous
replies 441Dec 2, 2017 3:12 PM +00:00

That's too bad. He seems like a nice kid.

--Anonymous
replies 442Dec 2, 2017 3:29 PM +00:00

I don't think he's overexposed.

--Anonymous
replies 443Dec 2, 2017 3:33 PM +00:00

He’s my favorite one. I love him.

--Anonymous
replies 444Dec 2, 2017 5:46 PM +00:00

Yeah Gaten is charismatic as hell, a great find by the show.

--Anonymous
replies 445Dec 2, 2017 5:48 PM +00:00

Nobody came out in high school in the 80s. It would be unrealistic to have a big coming out scene.

They should keep dropping hints though and not have him date (or show interested in) girls.

--Anonymous
replies 446Dec 2, 2017 5:57 PM +00:00

Or have his girlfriend move to Europe

--Vin Diesel
replies 447Dec 2, 2017 6:22 PM +00:00

R446 While I'm too young to have experienced High School back then, I'm sure what you are saying is true. They could choose to do a scene where he confides in his mother to having feelings he doesn't understand, or something along those lines.

But, I still can't imagine they would go there, given the popularity of the show. It is a cash cow for Netflix right now. 16 million viewers in the U.S. in its first 3 days, not counting those who watched via computer, phone or pad. They would risk so much if they dared to do anything remotely progressive. To some conservatives, just the idea that an underage character might be maybe, sorta, kinda not 100% traditionally straight until the turn 18 is cause for revolt.

Still hoping one of the Duffer's is gay. That would be so cool.

--Anonymous
replies 448Dec 3, 2017 4:41 AM +00:00

R448, I came of age and came out in the 80s in the Midwest suburbs. He wouldn't tell his mom either. It was a very scary time to come out as gay. HIV/AIDS hysteria was at its peak in the mid-80s... people received death threats. I have supportive parents, but I made sure I had other support in place in case the worst happened. I knew I was gay from about the age of 12 on, so it was almost constant paranoia for me. I came out to a friend when I was 18, and it was someone who didn't go to my school. I didn't come out to anyone in my school or my parents until after graduation.

I think the show should continue to hint he's gay, but shouldn't ever really be explicit about it... anything else would be unrealistic.

--Anonymous
replies 449Dec 3, 2017 10:41 AM +00:00

R441 Comment sections are awful. He seems like a nice kid and he's a really good actor.

--Anonymous
replies 450Dec 3, 2017 2:54 PM +00:00

How can anyone hate this kid?

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--Anonymous
replies 451Dec 3, 2017 3:50 PM +00:00

R451 Some people are just haters. They would hate a pile of snuggling puppies if they could.

--Anonymous
replies 452Dec 4, 2017 2:06 AM +00:00

That kid IS annoying. They all are except Will. They should have had D'Artagnan eat him. It would have been ironic and made a lot of people happy. 2nd season was good. They kept the same style and quality. Eleven is a good actress. I liked chapter 7. I thought the sister storyline was sad. Nancy looked like crap. Steve is stupid and not cute. He needs to go, along with the british and australian import. Immigrants cannot play Americans. Their inflections are all wrong. I notice it right away and it drives me crazy! They should end show now. Eleven opened the gate. She closed the gate. End of story. Season 3 needs new characters and old ones to go. Keep it fresh.

--Anonymous
replies 453Dec 4, 2017 2:23 AM +00:00

I think the “Australian and British imports” did fine. If you are listening hard for it you’ll hear it, but why try so hard to be miserable when misery is such a cheap commodity anyway?

Chapter 7 did derail the story a bit at an extreme cliffhanger, which I think was a mistake, because when they did get back to the facility it was like “oh yeah, that happened.” It’s safe to assume that series served the larger narrative of the series.

Season 2 did very well with the slow boil tension, and I’m glad Reiser’s scientist wasn’t another two-dimensional bad guy, but it did leave a somewhat less satisfying feeling at the end. In season 1 there’s one terrible creature to overcome and one boy to rescue and when it happens it feels personal and real. A closing the gate to save the planet narrative is so grand that it’s not particularly relatable.

That said it was probably still a good choice. Otherwise season 2 would have just been a retread of season 1.

--Anonymous
replies 454Dec 4, 2017 3:47 AM +00:00

R454 I don't listen hard for anything. I can just tell immediately. It's the inflections. My boyfriend is amazed at how I pick up on it so quickly. And then ill google and be right. He can never tell. It's because I HATE foreign accents especially British so any little thing sets me off. I am far from miserable buddy boy. Don't try it.

--Anonymous
replies 455Dec 4, 2017 4:36 AM +00:00

They sure as shit don't look like sisters. Terrible casting.

--Anonymous
replies 456Dec 4, 2017 3:01 PM +00:00

Rob Lowe is right, the kid looks like he could be his son more than his two sons do.

--Anonymous
replies 457Dec 4, 2017 3:16 PM +00:00

Is anyone watching Dark, the German Netflix series?

--Anonymous
replies 458Dec 4, 2017 3:20 PM +00:00

R458 I haven't yet, but I thought about it because I was told it is a bit like Stranger Things.

Is it any good? If so, how good, and should I be watching it?

--Anonymous
replies 459Dec 4, 2017 7:29 PM +00:00

R458 and R459 ... I watched the first episode. It's badly dubbed into English from the original German and that was really distracting to me. And the first episode wasn't good enough to make me want to come back and watch any more.

--Anonymous
replies 460Dec 4, 2017 8:43 PM +00:00

R460 I don't like to watch dubbed foreign shows. I like to watch them in their original language so that I can take in the actors entire performance, voice and all. Can you not view it in German with English captions?

I am shocked Netflix wouldn't give us that option.

--Anonymous
replies 461Dec 4, 2017 11:19 PM +00:00

R461 Follow up to that, we have the option to watch it in the original German. I just watched the first episode in German with English subtitles. It was pretty good. Not Stranger Things good, but very, very few shows are.

--Anonymous
replies 462Dec 5, 2017 8:02 PM +00:00

I watched the first episode (in English) and was thoroughly unimpressed.

--Anonymous
replies 463Dec 5, 2017 11:25 PM +00:00

Has anyone ever watched Stranger Things in one of the alternate languages? How does the translation and voice acting compare to the English version?

--Anonymous
replies 464Dec 6, 2017 11:01 PM +00:00

It was all Greek to me.

--Anonymous
replies 465Dec 7, 2017 5:29 AM +00:00

Watched (some of) Power Rangers on cable this weekend. Montgomery is bland as fuck in it. I mean, sure, it's Power Rangers, what could they possibly give him to do that would actually be memorable, but it again makes me wonder what everyone is seeing in him.

--Anonymous
replies 466Dec 11, 2017 9:44 AM +00:00

Dark Is Better Than Stranger Things

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--Anonymous
replies 467Dec 11, 2017 10:11 AM +00:00

Season 2 sucked. Too many characters and I may never forgive the Duffers for the Eleven goes punk episode. David Harbour was great and deserved his GG nom. I loved Eleven’s relationship with Hopper but I missed her interactions with the other kids, esp Mike. I hope next season is much less Nancy/Jonathan and more Hopper and the kids. It’s going to be out in 2019, which sucks.

--Anonymous
replies 468Dec 11, 2017 11:28 AM +00:00

I really enjoyed Dark. Yes, the dubbing is awful, but the plot is very cool - more twisty than Stranger Things but with less horror elements.

--Anonymous
replies 469Dec 11, 2017 12:33 PM +00:00

If the dubbing is awful you can watch it with subtitles

--Anonymous
replies 470Dec 11, 2017 12:35 PM +00:00

Liked the first season ,it was OK. Loved the second season. Except for the one Chicago episode, it played like a movie. Well done.

--Anonymous
replies 471Dec 11, 2017 1:11 PM +00:00

I'm up to episode 3, am almost giving up. So boring.

--Anonymous
replies 472Dec 11, 2017 2:42 PM +00:00

Who did Dacre suck and fuck to get this role?

--Anonymous
replies 473Dec 11, 2017 3:11 PM +00:00

Probably one or both of the Duffers, r473. He auditioned in a g-string so draw your own conclusions.

--Anonymous
replies 474Dec 11, 2017 7:01 PM +00:00

Netflix's New Show Dark Is Better Than Stranger Things

Netflix's new thriller series is getting great reviews. Could it actually be better than Stranger Things?
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--Anonymous
replies 475Dec 11, 2017 11:17 PM +00:00

I know none of the kids were ever going to get nominated for an award. But still. David Harbour does not deserve the GG nomination for season 2.

--Anonymous
replies 476Dec 12, 2017 2:34 AM +00:00

Watched the first episode and don't understand the praise of "Dark". DULL.

--Anonymous
replies 477Dec 12, 2017 4:59 AM +00:00

Dacre looks like a pissy bottom.

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--Anonymous
replies 478Dec 12, 2017 5:18 AM +00:00

LOL

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--Anonymous
replies 479Dec 12, 2017 7:48 AM +00:00