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X-Men: Dark Phoenix

How did I not know that they're making this into a trilogy and that Jessica Chastain is more than likely playing Jean Grey during the Phoenix possession? I need this in my eyeballs now.

From Wiki:

X-Men: Dark Phoenix is an upcoming American superhero film based on Marvel Comics' X-Men characters, distributed by 20th Century Fox. It is intended to be the thirteenth installment in the X-Men film series, and the beginning of a new X-Men trilogy. The film is being written and directed by Simon Kinberg, and is set to star James McAvoy, Michael Fassbender, Jennifer Lawrence, Nicholas Hoult, Tye Sheridan, Sophie Turner, Alexandra Shipp, Kodi Smit-McPhee, Evan Peters, and Jessica Chastain. In X-Men: Dark Phoenix, the X-Men must face the full power of the Dark Phoenix as well as the alien Shi'ar empire.

After X-Men: Days of Future Past erased the events of X-Men: The Last Stand from the series' timeline, Kinberg expressed interest in a new, more faithful adaptation of Chris Claremont's "The Dark Phoenix Saga" in a future film than his previous attempt with The Last Stand, which was not well received. The new adaptation was confirmed as a follow-up to X-Men: Apocalypse in 2016. Kinberg signed on to make his directorial debut in June 2017, when the majority of the cast was confirmed to return from Apocalypse. Filming began later that month in Montreal.

X-Men: Dark Phoenix is scheduled to be released on November 2, 2018.
--The Jean Grey Troll
replies 53Aug 6, 2017 12:39 AM +00:00

And they're including the Shi'ar Empire.
replies 1Aug 6, 2017 12:41 AM +00:00

Chastain is playing Lilandra, not older Jean.

replies 2Aug 6, 2017 12:42 AM +00:00

I just came in my pants.

replies 3Aug 6, 2017 12:42 AM +00:00

R2 That hasn't been confirmed but that makes sense! Especially considering Lilandra's relationship with Charles.

I'm so psyched for this!

replies 4Aug 6, 2017 12:45 AM +00:00

I really liked Sophie Turner as Jean Grey. She's not a supermodel but she's still quite beautiful, which I think fits the Jean Grey character perfectly. She's wholesome looking. Jean was never a vixen unless she was in Phoenix form. I was quite impressed with her.

Now I want to know who Chastain is playing.

replies 5Aug 6, 2017 12:48 AM +00:00

R2 It think you're right. Angelina Jolie was being offered the role, too (first?), but she turned it down. She would've made an excellent Lilandra, but I'm happy they got Chastain. I'm still hoping she'll play the adult Jean and/or Dark Phoenix.

Also, from their Wiki, it seems as if they're rebooting the whole series after X-Men: Apocalypse underperformed. I actually thought the film was decent, though I did not like they're take on Apocalypse. They should've made him CGI like they're doing with Thanos in Avengers. Anyway, this means Famke Jannsen is out as older Jean, which leaves the possibility open that they could've been seeking Jolie for an older Jean/Dark Phoenix and they opted for Chastain. She'd be so perfect.

In June 2017, the Shi'ar alien race was rumored to be featured in the film,[22] and Angelina Jolie was being looked at for a role, though she was not expected to accept the part. Jessica Chastain was also potentially being looked at for the same character.[23] Fox confirmed that Kinberg would direct the film, and that Lawrence, Fassbender, McAvoy, and Hoult had all signed on to return for one more film. In addition to Turner, Apocalypse actors Alexandra Shipp, Tye Sheridan, and Kodi Smit-McPhee were also confirmed to be returning, while producers for the film were revealed to be Kinberg, Singer, Parker, and Lauren Shuler Donner. At that time, Chastain was in talks to join the cast as Shi'ar Empress Lilandra, the film's villain. The film's script was said to "hew closer" to the original "Dark Phoenix Saga" by Chris Claremont and John Byrne than The Last Stand did.[3][2] It was later revealed that the character Dazzler would be appearing in the film, after being hinted in a scene that was ultimately deleted from Apocalypse.[24]
replies 6Aug 6, 2017 12:56 AM +00:00

*their take

replies 7Aug 6, 2017 12:57 AM +00:00

Chastising is confirmed as Lilandra. Jennifer Lawrence, Fassbender and McAvoy are all returning.

replies 8Aug 6, 2017 4:17 AM +00:00

I wish the Imperial Guard was going to be in this! I remember as a kid cracking up over them being such a rip-off of DC's Legion.
replies 9Aug 6, 2017 4:55 AM +00:00

Dave Cockrum created the Imperial Guard intentionally as a tribute to Superboy and the Legion of Super-Heroes. It was a wink to Cockrum's initial claim to fame on S&TLSH.

That Wiki article only credits Claremont for the Dark Phoenix story? John Byrne came up with over half of the plot, not to mention all of the art.

replies 10Aug 6, 2017 5:11 AM +00:00

OMG Gladiator vs (good) Phoenix is my favorite owning from the 90's cartoon. Phoenix is just on such a different level.

I wonder if they'll include the Hellfire Club, as the Dark Phoenix seeks new experiences and stimulation. I loved Jean's naughty corset outfit.

I also presume that Gladiator and the rest of the Praetorian Guard will fight the X-men (on the moon), for her life @ the end.
replies 11Aug 6, 2017 5:44 AM +00:00

Well I'll be then naysayer and tell everyone now - it is going to suck. Every X-Men movie has sucked (except Deadpool & Logan). These characters just don't translate into film well.

The Dark Phoenix saga was a very slow burn. From the crash, to the fight with Magneto under the volcano, the fight with Proteus, the repair of the crystal, all showed her buildup in power, and then manipulation by Mastermind led to her breakdown. They going to show all this?

Couple this with bad scripts, mediocre acting, and just that many mutants powers are hard or dull to show on screen.

replies 12Aug 6, 2017 5:46 AM +00:00

R12, you have some good points. But the films keep making those of us who like the franchise will keep getting sequels :)

replies 13Aug 6, 2017 5:57 AM +00:00

And bad "costumes".

Part of Phoenix' appeal are her green and red comic book costumes.

The movies let me down because of the mish-mash of characters. The 1995 cartoon was okay in adding then-current "hot" characters like Gambit (who did little in the Phoenix animated story), but I'm not interested in a Phoenix story with Magneto and Mystique as the leading characters.

I don't expect the Phoenix movie story to be just the comic book characters actually in the storyline from 1976-1980 but I dread seeing Jennifer Lawrence as the star.

replies 14Aug 6, 2017 5:58 AM +00:00


replies 15Aug 6, 2017 8:05 AM +00:00
I wonder if they'll include the Hellfire Club

Hellfire Club was in X-Men: First Class

replies 16Aug 6, 2017 4:43 PM +00:00

Yeah, but they left Jason Wyngarde, out of First Class. It might be clunky to have him in a live action movie with the Shi'ar though. I would opt for as much space setting as possible.

replies 17Aug 6, 2017 4:56 PM +00:00

First look.

To read more about Dark Phoenix, pick up the new issue of Entertainment Weekly on stands Friday, or buy it here…
replies 18Dec 7, 2017 6:06 AM +00:00

They may as well kill this now. Jessica Chastain is box office poison. She’s the Armie Hammer or actresses. No one cares.

replies 19Dec 7, 2017 6:07 AM +00:00

Wait, so who is Jessica Chastain playing? Sophie Turner is playing Jean Grey right? Is there a time jump or something?

replies 20Dec 7, 2017 6:51 AM +00:00

R20 Yes to all of that.

replies 21Dec 7, 2017 6:54 AM +00:00

I spoke too soon. The EW has revealed she's playing "an otherworldly shapeshifter who comes into contact with Phoenix."
replies 22Dec 7, 2017 7:12 AM +00:00

Ugh, I didn’t like Sophie as Jean.

replies 23Dec 7, 2017 7:17 AM +00:00

I didn't either r23. Having this whole thing based around her makes me nervous.

replies 24Dec 7, 2017 7:18 AM +00:00

R23 She's an atrocious actress. I can't believe they want her to carry a movie.

replies 25Dec 7, 2017 7:19 AM +00:00

Sophie just doesn’t have the chops to play Jean. Forcing her to attempt an American accent really didn’t help; she clearly struggled. A slightly older Sophia Lillis (Beverly in IT) would’ve been a better choice.

Now that Disney is buying Fox, I wonder what they’re going to do with all the X properties.

replies 26Dec 7, 2017 7:26 AM +00:00

Kevin Feige is apparently ready to play with the x-men

Marvel’s Kevin Feige has an almost unblemished track record for success in superhero movies at Disney, and he lent his magic to resuscitating Spider-Man in partnership with Sony. He’s said to be eager to get his hands on the X-Men universe

But yes, I'm curious to see how this will work in practice. The x-men characters have already been explored a lot in well received movies.

In what would be one of the most cataclysmic shakeups to ever happen to a traditional media company, 21st Century Fox is on the brink of selling the bulk of its assets — worth some $68 billio…
replies 27Dec 7, 2017 7:32 AM +00:00

Sophie was terrible as Jean, so I'm definitely not looking forward to an entire movie focused on her.

replies 28Dec 7, 2017 8:13 AM +00:00

I agree with this article: Chastain will be playing a Skrull empress and that's the huge twist as it's only possible if (and when) Disney acquires Fox.

She'll look a little different in the film.
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replies 29Dec 8, 2017 11:03 AM +00:00

Wait, I was wrong. The rights to the Skrull characters are already divided between the two studios. Which is nuts if you ask me.

Film rights to the Skrull race are shared between Marvel and Fox as the aliens have appeared in a wide range of comic book franchises. That said, rights to named members of the race will be divided between the studios (just as they are with the Watchers). Characters who are strongly associated with the Fantastic Four or the X-Men sit with Fox; those who are tied to franchises like the Avengers remain Marvel properties.
replies 30Dec 8, 2017 11:06 AM +00:00

I would love to see what Kevin Feige does with the X-Men. His Marvel track record speaks for itself. Maybe they should scrap this X-Men: Phoenix and start the X-Men from scratch.

replies 31Dec 8, 2017 11:13 AM +00:00

I can't wait for this!

replies 32Feb 11, 2018 7:21 PM +00:00

Lol I got excited thinking this was a new thread, then read my posts above from months ago. Any new info?

replies 33Feb 11, 2018 7:40 PM +00:00

It's getting to confusing for me to work up the required energy. Is Jean Grey dead or not?

replies 34Feb 11, 2018 7:53 PM +00:00

Confirmed: Dark Phoenix Will Introduce Famous Marvel Villains Before Captain Marvel Does

For a long time it’s been rumored that Fox will beat Marvel to the screen with the shape-shifting aliens the Skrulls, and today I received confirmation from a long-time source that they are indeed in X-Men: Dark Phoenix. This may remind comic fans of how Fox quickly replaced Juggernaut in Days of Future Past with Quicksilver to beat Marvel to the screen with that character as well.
As for the movie itself, my source says they thought it was better than Apocalypse but not as good as Days of Future Past. At this point, they felt it was similar in issues to First Class. It’s also very serious with very little humor, but they said that Kinberg did a good job with it.
Aquaman is getting all of the attention lately from the test screening that happened yesterday, but I have some news about an upcoming Marvel movie that confirms a huge rumor that’s been floa…
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replies 35Feb 23, 2018 7:19 AM +00:00

Is that creep Bryan Singer producing it?

replies 36Feb 23, 2018 7:29 AM +00:00

Singer is credited as a producer but that might just be because of the connection to the previous X-Men movies he directed. In any case, he wasn't involved in the filming. This will be all Kinberg.

replies 37Feb 23, 2018 7:41 AM +00:00
Every X-Men movie has sucked (except Deadpool & Logan). These characters just don't translate into film well.

X2 is a fucking glorious entry into the 21st C. gay canon and you well know it, R12.

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replies 38Feb 23, 2018 8:17 AM +00:00

Release pushed back from November 2 to February 14, 2019.

'Bohemian Rhapsody' will now open on that date, instead of December 25 as previously announced.

20th Century Fox is doing some major shuffling some of their titles for this year and 2019. The release date for the Queen biopic Bohemian Rhapsody, which has been going through some speed bumps wi…
replies 39Mar 27, 2018 3:48 AM +00:00

The costumes suck. Why can’t they stick to canon when telling these old stories???

I’m sorry fan boys. Honestly I am. But the truth is, the story was told with male characters in tight lycra battlesuits sometimes with briefs OVER the leggings. You have to get over your terror of seeing a male bulge or bulbous ass cleavage.

It’s going to suck. I already have visions of Phoenix in some kind of leather outfit with straps and buckles everywhere, instead of the smooth sexy green body suit with yellow thigh boots. And even if they produced a tight outfit for someone, they still have to fuck it up by adding a bumpy surface to make it look like Kevlar or fish scales something.

No one rebels against this heresy, this complete ignorance of canon. So they keep making this shit.

replies 40Mar 27, 2018 4:05 AM +00:00

How many more times can Hugh Jackman juice himself up to Wolverine-sized bulk? That’s GOT to be terrible for the liver, so say nothing about his testicles from all the T supplements, and his heart.

No wonder they pay them so much. They’re lifespan is going to be affected by the steroids.

replies 41Mar 27, 2018 4:07 AM +00:00

I think the first two X-Men movies still hold up quite well. They really were at the start of this whole comic book movie renaissance, but were early enough to not be bloated by excess CGI, pointless action, and endless disposable characters. The cast was fantastic, particularly Stewart, McKellan, and Jackman.

"Days of Future Past" was the best of the recent entries. It wasn't perfect, but was the lesser offender of comic book movie excess.

"Logan," however, is in a class all of its own. In my opinion, "Logan" is the best superhero movie of all time, beating out even "The Dark Knight," and I see little chance any other superhero movie will be able to come close to it for a long time... mostly because it was so unexpected and bucked the trends of the genre so well.

I'll go see "Dark Phoenix" because I'm a big X-Men fan, but I don't have high expectations. Just when I thought the series was past the crap that was "The Last Stand," they made "Apocalypse."

replies 42Mar 27, 2018 4:07 AM +00:00

They also pushed New Mutants back six months.

They must be in trouble.

replies 43Mar 27, 2018 5:22 AM +00:00

I am SOOOOOOOOOOOO over these movies. They are all the fucking same!!

replies 44Mar 27, 2018 5:24 AM +00:00

'X-Men: Dark Phoenix,' 'New Mutants' Delayed For Significant Reshoots

X-Men: Dark Phoenix is going to see some considerable changes before its release, as sources tell the Simon Kinberg-directed film is in need of multiple weeks worth of reshoots to change significant story points in the film.
After testing the film, 20th Century Fox has elected to bring the film back into production ahead of its release. They will have a significant roadblock in doing so, however, as its titular Dark Phoenix actress Sophie Turner will be heavily tied up with obligations to Game of Thrones' final season through September.

Thank the gods. They said that first cut played like a drama and was light on action, which is definitely something people want from their comic book movies, right?

X-Men: Dark Phoenix is going to see some considerable changes before its release, as sources tell [...]
replies 45Mar 27, 2018 10:50 AM +00:00

I wonder if the potential Disney acquisition might be further along and they're retooling to bring it closer to the MCU.

replies 46Mar 27, 2018 12:12 PM +00:00

X-Men aren’t currently considered part of that universe?

replies 47Mar 27, 2018 12:16 PM +00:00

Did you spot this gem in the article @r45?

20th Century Fox's other property, New Mutants, is also in the process of even more significant reshoots after having its release date delayed nearly an entire year. The film will add a few new characters to round out the movie, as well as make it scarier, overhauling the majority of the film. Almost half of the movie is supposedly being reshot. The original version of the film was directed by Josh Boone. Such a hold up has prompted the film to push its release date back, once again, to August 2, 2019. It was originally scheduled for April 13, 2018.

Holy incompetence! And to think it was supposed to come out a couple of weeks from now originally.

replies 48Mar 27, 2018 12:55 PM +00:00

Will Rictor be apart of the New Mutants movies?

replies 49Mar 27, 2018 2:19 PM +00:00
And they're including the Shi'ar Empire.


replies 50Mar 27, 2018 2:26 PM +00:00

Not sure, r59. Doesn't look like he'll be apart of the main cast. Perhaps in a smaller capacity.

replies 51Mar 27, 2018 3:29 PM +00:00

Oops r49, not 59.

replies 52Mar 27, 2018 3:30 PM +00:00

Eh. Would rather have had HOUSE OF M as a movie or as a miniseries. Dark, but fascinating.

replies 53Mar 28, 2018 2:45 AM +00:00