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Legends of Tomorrow - Part 2 : Forward to the Past

Continue your love of all things ColdWave.

replies 355Apr 12, 2016 2:35 PM +00:00

I just watched the cowboy episode online. Was it leaked or did it air early?

replies 1Apr 12, 2016 10:25 PM +00:00

It aired early in Canada.

replies 2Apr 12, 2016 11:01 PM +00:00

R1 For real? Was it good?

replies 3Apr 13, 2016 2:15 AM +00:00

I think the Cowboy episode is pretty good and I am not much of a LoT fan.

replies 4Apr 13, 2016 4:55 AM +00:00

R3 I thought it was one of the strongest ones so far, but maybe that's because I was looking forward to seeing Dominic in a cowboy hat.

replies 5Apr 13, 2016 5:16 AM +00:00

Johnathan Schaech was a great Jonah Hex even though he whispered all of his lines.

replies 6Apr 13, 2016 1:53 PM +00:00

is the cowboy episode the one that's airing tonight, and it got aired early in canada?

replies 7Apr 13, 2016 3:41 PM +00:00

Tomorrow night, R7. You're a day off.

replies 8Apr 13, 2016 4:07 PM +00:00

oops lol thanks R8

replies 9Apr 13, 2016 4:08 PM +00:00

great, cowboys are one of my kinks so i'm gonna go stream that now, thanks R1 and thanks canada lol

replies 10Apr 13, 2016 4:21 PM +00:00

so, they're gonna have to save their younger selves now?

replies 11Apr 14, 2016 2:44 PM +00:00

i loved when sarah drank mick under the table, and it showed her kicking ass while he was passed out.

replies 12Apr 14, 2016 5:10 PM +00:00

I actually fell asleep during the episode.

I'm wondering if I'm going to continue, because I really don't feel like I missed anything.

replies 13Apr 14, 2016 5:16 PM +00:00

What is with that no-talent picket-fence-teeth grease-face skunk-hair thing? Someone among the producers fucking her?

Because she looks like something limping out of the Cooter Corner/Wichita Gentleman's Club after the night shift ends.


replies 14Apr 14, 2016 5:19 PM +00:00

R14 i have no clue who you're talking about.

replies 15Apr 14, 2016 8:42 PM +00:00

I liked this episode, it had a lot of comic relief.

replies 16Apr 14, 2016 9:19 PM +00:00

R15 i think he meant the actress who plays Kendra

replies 17Apr 15, 2016 12:08 AM +00:00

Sara was really fun. Also, mad-swag Sheriff Ray was hot.

replies 18Apr 15, 2016 1:48 AM +00:00

Also, that was certainly absolutely anything like the Doctor Who episode "A Town Called Mercy." Nothing at all.

replies 19Apr 15, 2016 1:58 AM +00:00

How did they make an episode with cowboys and JONAH FUCKING HEX so boring? Jonah didn't do anything!

replies 20Apr 15, 2016 1:42 PM +00:00

Cowboy Sheriff Ray Palmer was DAMNED SEXY!!!!!!!! Brandon Routh was HOT!!!!!!!!!!!

Once again, Sara mentioned dating many men... She's not a Lez... "Bisexual".

Wenty looked sexy in his cowboy hat, too.

JONATHAN even made Jonah Hex kinda hot as well.

replies 21Apr 15, 2016 1:50 PM +00:00

Spell-checked "fixed" JOHNATHON's fucked up name.

replies 22Apr 15, 2016 1:51 PM +00:00

Apparently Tumblr read a lot of romantic subtext into Rip's interactions with Hex. Which now that I'm thinking about it, I kind of see.

replies 23Apr 17, 2016 1:43 AM +00:00

Yes, it seemed like Jonah was the reason why Rip was loving living in the Old West and did not want to leave.

replies 24Apr 17, 2016 3:14 AM +00:00

that was a nice moment mick had with his younger self in tonight's episode.

replies 25Apr 21, 2016 7:54 PM +00:00

Yeah, but still a kind of meh episode. I'm barely hanging in there.

replies 26Apr 21, 2016 9:17 PM +00:00

That was... weird.

replies 27Apr 21, 2016 10:16 PM +00:00

How nice of Ab Fab's Claudia Bing to take some time off to run an orphanage.

replies 28Apr 21, 2016 11:52 PM +00:00

I know a show about time travel is going to be illogical, but could they at least be consistent about it?

I know perfectly well why Kendra and Ray should annoy me, but I honestly can't help but like them together.

replies 29Apr 22, 2016 2:08 AM +00:00

Come with me if you want to live

replies 30Apr 23, 2016 11:53 PM +00:00

The show is horrible but I can't stop watching it. I really do like all the actors on it. I just wish it was better written. The only person I can't stand is the actor who plays Rip Hunter. He's insufferable.

replies 31Apr 24, 2016 4:08 AM +00:00

I have to admit, for a show that's usually pretty cheap on its special effects, seeing the Pilgrim freeze the heroes mid-attack was pretty cool looking.

replies 32Apr 24, 2016 4:23 AM +00:00

R32, that scene was awesome. Even better was how the show resolved it by using the younger Rip. "Did you forget me, miss?" *STAB*

replies 33Apr 24, 2016 9:15 AM +00:00

R33 That whole scene was meant for comic geeks. Those frozen "fighting" poses look like what you would see in comic book panels. And the way they started panning slowly around and then give an overhead view of the battle was really a treat for comic book readers. But unfortunately, the show continues to make no sense at all. I will be glad when this run is over and they can retool the show. The only one I want back next season is Sara. Captain Cold and Heatwave are so one note on this show, and these writers don't really know what to do with them. Let them go back to being villains on the Flash. The rest are just forgettable. I say let Savage kill them off.

replies 34Apr 24, 2016 3:15 PM +00:00

R34 There's no way cold & Heatwave to be villains on the Flash again. At this point, I'm not sure if they even remember who the Flash is since neither of them talked about him ever again. I know this is probably the LOT producer's fault who want to do nothing with the Flash so that's why they only bring Arrow actors or references on LOT.

replies 35Apr 24, 2016 3:20 PM +00:00

R35 When L:oT gets canceled, I'll bet Cold & Heatwave will go straight back to the Flash.

replies 36Apr 25, 2016 6:12 PM +00:00

any chance the character to be 'killed off' in the season finale will be Cold now that Len Snart is slated for the movie?

replies 37Apr 25, 2016 8:36 PM +00:00

R37 What do you mean? Does he have to die in the series because they're making a movie (with other actors, I assume) ?

replies 38Apr 26, 2016 2:11 AM +00:00
any chance the character to be 'killed off' in the season finale will be Cold now that Len Snart is slated for the movie?

They've not killed off Barry.

replies 39Apr 26, 2016 2:18 AM +00:00

R38 I don't recall Snart being slated to be in a movie. But DC Movie and TV are in different "universe", so it shouldn't matter.

replies 40Apr 26, 2016 9:59 AM +00:00

Glad to see Heatwave finally put a ring on it.

--Cold's pinky
replies 41Apr 29, 2016 2:59 AM +00:00

I agree with most of everything said at R31 except I like the Rip Hunter character but cannot stand the Prison Break guys. I like Miller and Purcell as actors, but I really hate those characters. Also with the actors who play Jefferson and Wally West does the CW have a quota for British black actors?

replies 42Apr 29, 2016 4:23 AM +00:00

[R41] is from tumblr, I saw that gifset too #dccoldwave

replies 43Apr 29, 2016 5:21 AM +00:00

R43 Actually, I'm not on tumblr.

--But I assume you are?
replies 44Apr 29, 2016 6:03 AM +00:00

R44 Well I thought everyone who posts here is from tumblr based on the fact that they notice things that normal viewers don't, like snart's ring, I didn't even notice this thing, tumblr did.

replies 45Apr 29, 2016 10:51 AM +00:00

How are they going to pad this out for three more episodes, given last night's episode sure felt like a season finale/climax, until they completely artificially failed to actually end things.

The writing on this show is truly shitty.

replies 46Apr 29, 2016 11:12 AM +00:00

R46 What's worse is that they saved Savage for the sake of saving the mind of stupid Carter. Kendar dear, that "mind" is not worth saving. Be happy with "genius" Ray.

replies 47Apr 29, 2016 11:32 AM +00:00

And wouldn't Carter just reincarnate eventually anyway?

Probably several times between his death in the first episode and when he appeared in the 22nd century?

replies 48Apr 29, 2016 11:40 AM +00:00

R48 Don't ask unanswerable questions! ;-)

replies 49Apr 29, 2016 12:14 PM +00:00

No, if Vandal Savage is killed, Kendra and Carter stop reincarnating.

replies 50Apr 29, 2016 3:02 PM +00:00

White Canary and Hawkgirl are the only reasons to watch this show. The men are subpar.

replies 51Apr 29, 2016 3:12 PM +00:00

Hawkgirl is one of the worst things about the show. I hope they kill Savage and Hawkguy and Hawkgirl go away.

replies 52Apr 29, 2016 3:16 PM +00:00

I hate that Firestorm hardly ever merges. If you have superpowers, use them.

replies 53Apr 29, 2016 3:40 PM +00:00

They used all their money on the giant robot.

replies 54Apr 29, 2016 3:41 PM +00:00

Trouble in the DC movie land: The Flash Movie Director Seth Grahame-Smith Leaves Over 'Creative Differences'

The movie's not opening until 2018 so nothing to worry about yet.

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replies 55Apr 29, 2016 3:49 PM +00:00
The movie's not opening until 2018 so nothing to worry about yet.

Given the state of their movie universe, I would say it would, in fact, be something to worry about.

replies 56Apr 29, 2016 3:54 PM +00:00

R56, possibly but then again sometimes it's better to swap directors before the production gets too far. Just look at Ant-Man.

replies 57Apr 29, 2016 4:00 PM +00:00

If they gave firestorm the powers he had in the comics...I mean he could re-arrange matter. here he just shoots fire...heatwave does that.

replies 58Apr 29, 2016 4:07 PM +00:00

That Edgar Wright leaving Ant-Man thing was a disappointment, but the people behind the scenes have a proven track record. DC, and by DC I mean Zack Snyder, does not.

replies 59Apr 29, 2016 4:08 PM +00:00

So, when Ray grew to giant size, exactly how big was his cock? Issues like these need to be addressed!

replies 60Apr 29, 2016 7:26 PM +00:00

Giant Ray may have been large enough to satisfy even Mrs. Patrick Campbell.

replies 61Apr 29, 2016 11:57 PM +00:00

So neither Rip nor Gideon knew about Vandal's secret weapon, a giant robot? Because yeah, a giant robot sure can slip through all the cracks to remain unnoticed by the likes of the Timemasters and the media with their wittness reports? What a gimmicky twist.

replies 62Apr 30, 2016 12:32 AM +00:00

Why can't the fangirls see how gay Went is playing Cold? They keep talking about how hot he and Sara are for each other while fingering themselves.

replies 63Apr 30, 2016 12:34 PM +00:00

R63 Where exactly do you see those comemnts cuz all I see are fangirls who keep talking about how married Lenny & Mick are & that Mick gave him a ring & stuff like that.

replies 64Apr 30, 2016 1:48 PM +00:00

Previously TV, mostly. I think they're older than the Tumblr crowd.

replies 65Apr 30, 2016 1:52 PM +00:00

The giant battle was awesome!! I continue to be impressed by their special effects and their huge sets.

This show continues to bring the excitement and fun every time, although it was the height of stupidity that freaking Hawk girl couldn't seal the deal. Fuck Carter. They've had how many damn lifetimes together? That's still not enough for her??

Both The Flash and LOT are great.

replies 66May 1, 2016 1:30 PM +00:00

R66 I am sure they spent a lot on special effect for the robot but it just not very exciting to fight a giant robot. I prefer the Pilgrim fight the week before. It really had a comic book feel to it.

replies 67May 1, 2016 7:12 PM +00:00

I was distracted by the sight of Carter's nipples.

replies 68May 2, 2016 7:51 AM +00:00

I can't believe they killed off Carter and kept Jefferson.

replies 69May 2, 2016 7:54 AM +00:00

Carter has a nice body, but he doesn't have a very attractive face and he is, if possible, a weaker actor even than Jax.

replies 70May 2, 2016 8:08 AM +00:00

Carter is Streep compared to Jax. And he has a very masculine face, which is hot.

replies 71May 2, 2016 8:12 AM +00:00

He looks like Nick Blood from Agents of Shield/Marvel's Most Wanted hit with the ugly stick.

replies 72May 2, 2016 8:17 AM +00:00

R72 is headless.

replies 73May 2, 2016 8:30 AM +00:00

They've put out casting notices for characters that sound a LOT like Bart Allen and Lady Blackhawk. I especially approve of the latter.

replies 74May 4, 2016 4:22 AM +00:00

I am more interested in which characters are going bye bye.

replies 75May 4, 2016 11:47 AM +00:00

They could off Hawkman and Hawkgirl any time, put Ray back on Arrow and add in three new ones.

replies 76May 4, 2016 5:00 PM +00:00

The Hawks and Savage need to go. No one cares about their love/hate triangle.

replies 77May 5, 2016 12:00 PM +00:00

Captain Cold and White Canary kiss in the trailers for next week. Guess that's that. Poor Wentworth, no one listened to him even after all the gaying it up he did for the last year and a half.

replies 78May 5, 2016 6:08 PM +00:00

Another boring show with ridiculously stupid plotting and character moments. As if Atom would open up the cell like that. JESUS. And that twist at the end? Who didn't see THAT coming a mile away...

replies 79May 5, 2016 7:59 PM +00:00

R78 i don't like the "captain canary" ship, and i think they should just remain friends, but wentworth did say he was playing cold as pansexual, not gay, so technically they aren't going against his wishes by having him kiss sara.

replies 80May 5, 2016 8:02 PM +00:00

Oh please R80, they are absolutely going against his wishes if they never mention his "pansexuality" on screen and never give him anything but female love interests.

Wentworth also said he thinks all superheroes should be gay. He probably asked the writers to make Cold pansexual so he would get to play something other than straight 100% of the time, but they couldn't even give him that much, it seems.

Wentworth Miller's tattooed torso for his role on "Prison Break" made him a web meme a decade ago. He took a break from acting after the series ended, but now he's back on CW's "Legend of Tomorrow." EDGE spoke to the out actor about the show.
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replies 81May 5, 2016 8:51 PM +00:00

I also don't like Snart and Sara together, but I don't think they'll seriously pair them up. It's probably a moment right before they're about to risk their lives, and it's clear that they genuinely care about each other while also sucking at communication so she shows him she cares the only way she knows how: physically. Hopefully it doesn't feel romantic because the thought of them being cute feels really misplaced.

I think he sees her like a badass little sister, a Lisa replacement. He's fascinated by her but he doesn't have any romantic feelings for her. Also as someone pointed out, Wentworth has clearly been playing him as anything but straight.

replies 82May 5, 2016 11:16 PM +00:00

I hope so r82. Pairing Sara with Snart, when they've been pretty clear about her attraction to women, would be depressing and turning Snart into a conventional hetero romantic partner doesn't fit him either as has been said

replies 83May 5, 2016 11:24 PM +00:00

The Snart/Sara friendship was the most genuine portrayal of friendship between a male and a female character in Flarrowverse. It's actually baffling that m/f friendship is so rare on these shows, like everyone has to hook up all the time. I hope they don't ruin it.

Also, Mick/Len is writing itself, I don't understand why the producers (Guggenheim?) can go with the flow when straight couples seem "organic" (Felicity and Oliver), but they can't roll with LGBT pairings which are bursting with chemistry and would actually make sense.

replies 84May 5, 2016 11:39 PM +00:00

The show runner and writers refer to them as an old married couple.

replies 85May 5, 2016 11:51 PM +00:00

R81 dude, i want him to be kissing boys on screen as much as anyone, but i have very low expectations that, that will ever happen.

replies 86May 5, 2016 11:56 PM +00:00

Has Wentworth ever played a gay character? I think he's one of the rare examples of a gay actor who didn't start getting typecast as a queen after coming out.

replies 87May 6, 2016 12:03 AM +00:00

So, the twist is that Legends of Tomorrow is an even bigger Doctor Who rip off than everybody thought?

replies 88May 6, 2016 12:07 AM +00:00

R87 He played gay very early on in his career, maybe five lines as a flamboyant hairdresser on some drama series (I remember because I looked it up when he came out.) He was flaming on popular but that character might have been straight, I don't remember. He was sassy though.

replies 89May 6, 2016 12:08 AM +00:00

Also I haven't watched Arrow or The Flash, but what's up with Sara's romantic life? A couple of episodes ago she fell in love with a nurse, who she still dreams of at night years later (since she was left behind for two years.) In this episode we got a flashback to what I understood to be the great love of her life? Next up she's kissing Snart. And was she also in a relationship with Arrow?

I enjoy this show and I love her character, but I don't really get her dating history.

replies 90May 6, 2016 12:30 AM +00:00

It's called bisexuality, r90

replies 91May 6, 2016 12:34 AM +00:00

R91 no such thing as bisexuality!!!!

Seriously tho, it has been stated pretty clearly that she's bi, what's there not to get. Although I always thought she leaned more towards girls romantically and just hooked up with guys

replies 92May 6, 2016 1:21 AM +00:00

R91 I get that she's bisexual. I just don't see why being bisexual has to mean that you'll literally bang everyone. Can't we have a bisexual character who's not a total slut for once.

replies 93May 6, 2016 1:37 AM +00:00
Can't we have a bisexual character who's not a total slut for once.

Not when you slut shame them.

replies 94May 6, 2016 1:42 AM +00:00

God, they are like the worst heroes ever.

replies 95May 6, 2016 2:29 AM +00:00

What the hell, how is she banging everyone? She had a few serious relationships, a mild crush on the nurse and is friends with Len (not confirmed that they're going anywhere with it). Oliver Queen is more of a slut and he's not even bisexual

replies 96May 6, 2016 2:29 AM +00:00

OMG, what a mess!!

How the hell are they gonna get out of it this time?

Jefferson is gonna be the one to come to their rescue, I imagine.

Do we know for a fact that some are going to be leaving the show or is it just wishful thinking here?

replies 97May 6, 2016 6:57 AM +00:00

Sara might be bi but her greatest love so far has been Nyssa.

The kiss with Snart doesn't look like anything more than a friendly peck among friends. Sort of reassurance before they go out and put their lives on the line..... again.

replies 98May 6, 2016 7:02 AM +00:00

R86 he doesn't have to suck cock on screen to be pansexual or bisexual. He could just have a throwaway line about an ex-boyfriend and that's all it would take for it to be canon and an LGBT character.

R98 you're adorable, but the person who wrote the episode is Marc Guggenheim, the person who with his writing partner Wendy Mericles is almost completely responsible for the Olicity trainwreck on Arrow. Let's be realistic here. They're going to happen and these writers have declined Wentworth Miller's vision for Captain Cold as something other than completely heterosexual.

replies 99May 6, 2016 8:53 AM +00:00

R99, I disagree, he MUST suck cock on screen. Preferably RIGHT NOW.

replies 100May 6, 2016 10:15 AM +00:00

How is the Atom smart enough to invent the Atom suit but so goddamn stupid that he let Vandal Savage out because of a few stinging one liners?

replies 101May 6, 2016 10:33 AM +00:00
So, the twist is that Legends of Tomorrow is an even bigger Doctor Who rip off than everybody thought?

R88, I thought the exact same thing when the one Time Lord... oops, Time Master... announced to let Savage go and have him be returned to Earth. So now the Time Masters are actually bad guys? But to what purpose?

replies 102May 6, 2016 3:09 PM +00:00

uhh probably because if there is no Savage the time stream is changed...

replies 103May 6, 2016 4:01 PM +00:00

R103 I don't mean to be an asshole but did you not see the last episode? They explained that Savage himself had tampered with the time stream and that's why Rip brought him to the Vanishing Point, because that would mean the Time Masters would want to take out Savage themselves.

replies 104May 6, 2016 9:00 PM +00:00

i saw on tumblr that there's a drinking game where you take a drink every time rip says something you don't care about. i'd get alcohol poisoning after just one episode lol

replies 105May 7, 2016 2:59 AM +00:00

R104 I saw it I didn't say damaged I said changed. Kind of like Galactis Marvel - he has to exists.

replies 106May 7, 2016 3:24 AM +00:00

I'm ugly laughing so fucking hard right now.

replies 107May 12, 2016 6:13 PM +00:00

Didn't expect Cold to bite it. But they will probably get another version of him in there somehow.

replies 108May 12, 2016 7:14 PM +00:00

Yeah, kill off one of the good characters, and leave the others. ugh.

Fuck that shit.

replies 109May 12, 2016 8:14 PM +00:00

Apparently he is contracted for another year for the "Berlanti/Arrow-verse" so he will be seen on all three (four, now?) shows to equal a full season of LoT

replies 110May 12, 2016 9:26 PM +00:00

Not having him on The Flash has really hurt that show, so I'm glad he's going to be there in some capacity.

replies 111May 12, 2016 10:01 PM +00:00

Great, another heartbreak for Sara (I've been trying to catch up with her story)

Maybe they felt the need to straighten out Cold's character a bit so to speak, seeing as it was getting a little too precious with Mick and the ring story. And also giving in to fanfare, I suppose.

I'm bummed that we didn't get to see Cold go gay. For a supposedly pansexual character, there was a lot of him kissing women (or being kissed, if you want to be technical about it)

replies 112May 12, 2016 10:26 PM +00:00

Can someone explain to me why it seems like Berlanti & Co. are bound and determined to make fans hate and not watch their shows?

Are they just tired of working on these shows or what?

replies 113May 12, 2016 10:32 PM +00:00

i never watch previews so i was dreading the sara/snart kiss, but i do have to admit that it did work in the context of the scene, and wasn't nearly as cringeworthy as i thought it would be, even though i wish they hadn't done that.

replies 114May 12, 2016 10:50 PM +00:00

I actually don't mind the kiss (which felt like a heartfelt goodbye) as much as the "future for you and me" speech, which felt lame. I'm pretending he meant as criminal partners in a "cute" way, because the thought of them settling with each other romantically feels out of character. At least in the kiss she was the one "stealing one" from him, and not the other way like she insinuated.

replies 115May 12, 2016 11:07 PM +00:00

Maybe they are trying to get one of their most popular characters to work some magic across the board. Returning him back to the Flash where he has been missed and possibly causing a stir on Arrow.

replies 116May 12, 2016 11:49 PM +00:00

Heteronormativity at last!

replies 117May 13, 2016 1:38 AM +00:00

Also, did they really have to ape Age of Ultron's Pinocchio reference?

replies 118May 13, 2016 1:39 AM +00:00

I guess I didn't catch that references, R118.

Anyway, I'm pretty pissed about the killing of Snart. Really kind of pissed at the whole show for a whole number of reasons, actually.

replies 119May 13, 2016 4:58 AM +00:00

Maybe they knew that Supergirl was heading to the CW and see that Arrow's ratings are in a freefall after they killed the Black Canary and hoped Cold could work a little magic like R116 says. But to be honest, from everything they're saying this morning on Deadline and E!, it kind of sounds like Miller just didn't think this was a very good premise for a show and decided to throw them a bone by being in it for a few episodes.

replies 120May 13, 2016 6:17 AM +00:00

It sucks about Snart for sure but I look forward to seeing him on Flash again. Maybe even on Supergirl now.

That kiss was totally cringeworthy and uncomfortable to watch. Yuck. There was no love or even caring to it. If Caity's lips had been any further away from the rest of her face they would've been back in 2016😛

replies 121May 13, 2016 7:02 AM +00:00
Not having him on The Flash has really hurt that show, so I'm glad he's going to be there in some capacity.

Not really. I can't stand watching LoT so I don't even really remember he used to appear in The Flash. I don't hate Miller at all but he's so over the top with Snart that it's a bit embarrassing to watch at times. It's the same with Mark Hamill. That said I don't mind him returning to The Flash.

replies 122May 13, 2016 7:10 AM +00:00

R121 A kiss to forget. Is Snart really dead? It's quite easy to make some shit up like he was throw back in time to 2016 with no recollection of this LoT crap.

replies 123May 13, 2016 9:46 AM +00:00
I guess I didn't catch that references, [R118].

He feyed "There are no strings on me" to the Time Master goons.

replies 124May 13, 2016 11:41 AM +00:00

Am I the only one who thinks that Wentworth Miller is a horrible actor? I mean how much overacting can one person take? His enunciation was nauseating.

replies 125May 13, 2016 3:48 PM +00:00

Ciara Renee posting at R125.

replies 126May 13, 2016 6:09 PM +00:00

I don't know who that is...r126

replies 127May 14, 2016 4:12 AM +00:00

Goodness, this is a terrible show.

replies 128May 14, 2016 7:25 AM +00:00

I'll watch to the finale... but I don't know if I'm going to watch next season.

Maybe if they do some MASSIVE retooling, I'll check it out and decide then, but right now I'm not inclined to.

It's so very bad.

replies 129May 14, 2016 8:30 AM +00:00

R129 Don't know any retooling can help. It could be redone as more like a US version of Dr. Who. The biggest problem right now is having too many characters and not writing any one of them well.

replies 130May 14, 2016 2:32 PM +00:00

It's ALREADY a US version of Doctor Who.

replies 131May 14, 2016 2:34 PM +00:00

R131 Too many useless "companions" and the big bad as this Egyptian immortal Savage just kill the whole sci-fi vibe.

replies 132May 14, 2016 2:41 PM +00:00

Please all do stop watching.

Or take the sticks out of your asses and just enjoy the show for what it is.

replies 133May 14, 2016 2:43 PM +00:00

I support Brandon Routh in everything he does, after his horrible treatment during the Superman Returns debacle, so I will watch, as long as he's on it. But I really don't like the show. I don't even understand the point of it. And I detest Jax and Hawkgirl. It would be great if they could retool.

replies 134May 14, 2016 2:45 PM +00:00

R134 Actually, Jax grew on me this past episode by acting like an adult. But Hawkgirl is still annoying. The Atom should stay far far away from that mess.

replies 135May 14, 2016 2:46 PM +00:00
[R131] Too many useless "companions" and the big bad as this Egyptian immortal Savage just kill the whole sci-fi vibe.

I mean, it's not a 1:1 remake, but RIp's study looks remarkably like the TARDIS console room from the Eighth Doctor's movie. I know Vandal Savage predates Who by two decades, but he's basically the Master. The Time Masters are the Time Lords, the Waverider seems to have anything onboard that the plot requires, without it being bigger on the inside, etc.

If they actually finish with Savage this season, I'm fine with at least giving the next season a shot, particularly if the rumors about Alan Scott, Bart Allen, and Lady Blackhawk are true. But I have this awful suspicion that they're going to find a way to keep bringing him back. What does it say that the show's best episodes have been the ones he hasn't been in?

replies 136May 14, 2016 2:53 PM +00:00
Am I the only one who thinks that Wentworth Miller is a horrible actor?

He's fine as an actor. No one is going to perform well in this train wreck of a show. You can't make bricks with straw.

replies 137May 14, 2016 3:40 PM +00:00

So basically they have only two time ships - Savage on one, Rip and gang (minus Hawk girl and Hawkman). Interesting they said the Thanagarians take over the Earth, Hawkman and Hawkgirl were Thanagarian in the comics.

replies 138May 14, 2016 4:54 PM +00:00

R133, I'm trying, believe me, no one I know was as excited about this show as I was and it's had some interesting moments, but I've come away thinking the entire show is written entirely with the goal of ending up as cool Tumblr GIFs. The plot has dropped the ball so many times, and so many characters have been so underwritten.

I can understand that some people have fun with it, and that's fine, but it's not very *good.*

replies 139May 15, 2016 9:45 PM +00:00

With the time masters gone and them kind of flying blind, there is better story potential. Captain Cold will be missed though, unless they recruit another version of him. They had better either start writing the characters they have better or trade some out.

Following Savage around and cleaning up after his meddling in time while also trying to bring him down might yield some good storylines, but only if they do it right. If they don't, it will just seem like endless futile bullshit. I guess we will find out next season. Meanwhile, this summer there will be new episodes of Dark Matter and Killjoys, I guess.

replies 140May 16, 2016 10:19 AM +00:00

I didn't last even half a season with Dark Matter and Killjoys (in spite of the eye-candy on Killjoys). Bleh.

So this week is the finale, then?

I wonder if they're going to pull this show out of the fire.

replies 141May 16, 2016 10:31 AM +00:00

I don't think there's any hope of that happening. I think at this point it's going to be another Supernatural and Vampire Diaries: shows people know are dreck, but watch anyway for mindless escapism and cheap appeals to emotions. Nothing wrong with that, but it's never going to be "good."

replies 142May 18, 2016 10:08 AM +00:00

i don't watch Supernatural and Vampire Diaries for mindless escapism and cheap appeals to emotions, i watch b/c the leads are hot lol

replies 143May 18, 2016 4:49 PM +00:00

LOL six of one, half a dozen of the other, R143.

replies 144May 18, 2016 6:23 PM +00:00

Vampire Diaries USED to be good. I used to love it.

And Supernatural not only had some good seasons, but even in bad seasons, it has some great episodes, and even in bad episodes, it has some great moments.

replies 145May 18, 2016 6:37 PM +00:00

r58 They cut out the scenes of Firestorm(Robbie Amell version) displaying other powers on the flash.

replies 146May 18, 2016 7:43 PM +00:00

So is tonight the finale? Is this thing finally going to be over? Or is there ANOTHER episode after this? I can't keep track... I just want it to be OVER.

replies 147May 19, 2016 8:22 AM +00:00

Tonight is the season finale. AFAIK a second season has already been ordered as well as a couple of new actor/characters. Can't imagine where the show goes from here.

replies 148May 19, 2016 9:12 AM +00:00

The man of the hour!!!!

replies 149May 19, 2016 4:16 PM +00:00

Well fuck... my DVR cut off just before the end.

So this ship comes down, a strange guy walks off, and says "Do Not Get On that Ship" ... and the recording ended.

Can someone fill me in what happened there at the end????

replies 150May 19, 2016 7:06 PM +00:00

He said that Mick told him to not get on the ship because they would all die if they did.

The dude was from The Justice Society, whoever they are. I only know the Justice League.

So the Hawkpeople are gone now. I find it hard to believe that Ciarra works in theater. Doing what?

I actually have to rewatch, I missed the first few minutes and had no fucking idea what was happening.

replies 151May 19, 2016 7:29 PM +00:00

Apparently, he's Hourman. ⏳⌛️⏳⌛️⏳⌛️⏱⏲⏰🕰

replies 152May 19, 2016 7:34 PM +00:00

For those unfamiliar with the Justice Society
replies 153May 19, 2016 8:17 PM +00:00

I love Mick's "whenever they do that I get hungry for chicken" when Hawkman and Hawkgirl flew away. And Sarah's facial expression was priceless.

replies 154May 20, 2016 1:03 AM +00:00
The dude was from The Justice Society, whoever they are.

They're made up of the odds and ends of DC's Golden Age heroes. At least the ones who weren't Superman and Batman. Wonder Woman wasn't a member, she was just their secretary.

Rex Tyler was Hourman, who invented a pill called Miraclo, which gave him super powers hour.

The rumor was that we were going to be see another of the members, the original Green Lantern Alan Scott, but thankfully LoT decided to go for the straight white man instead.

replies 155May 20, 2016 1:29 AM +00:00

Can someone for the love of god explain why they needed to kill Savage three times? If he's dead in the 50s, he's probably dead in the 70s, and 10s as well. And how to things 60 years apart happen simultaneously?

replies 156May 20, 2016 2:32 AM +00:00

r156, timey whimey time paradox. Future Savage traveled through time and instructed his past two selves to perform a ritual with the meteors they found. That means two past selves and the future past selves supposedly performed a ritual "at the same time" under a particular planetary constellation which, if successful, had transported Savage back to the first time he and Kendra met, but this time he would be the Pharao (and she would be his daughter?????).

replies 157May 20, 2016 3:52 AM +00:00

R151, that's it? So they didn't get on the ship and it just ended that way?

That's... very confusing.

Glad the hawk people and Savage are gone. That's good at least.

That new guy was kind of hot I guess.

replies 158May 20, 2016 4:16 AM +00:00

Well, really now the whole show was worth it for that final bar scene with Coldwave.

Very touching.

replies 159May 20, 2016 7:45 AM +00:00

Carter Hall needs to return for season 2, and to appear shirtless each week.

replies 160May 20, 2016 8:01 AM +00:00
Future Savage traveled through time and instructed his past two selves to perform a ritual with the meteors they found. That means two past selves and the future past selves supposedly performed a ritual "at the same time" under a particular planetary constellation which, if successful, had transported Savage back to the first time he and Kendra met, but this time he would be the Pharao (and she would be his daughter?????).

Except that if he died in 1958, he wouldn't have been able to complete the ritual because he apparently had to use all three at "once."

Remember how Jax and Stein couldn't merge on the ship because it was dangerous until Jax decided to play with a vase?

replies 161May 20, 2016 9:16 AM +00:00

R161, that was part of the point... it created a paradox, and the only way to resolve it was for time to 'undo itself' all the way back to the beginning of this problem.

For reasons.

replies 162May 20, 2016 1:38 PM +00:00
That new guy was kind of hot I guess.

Canadian actor Patrick J. Adams who was on "Suits".
replies 163May 20, 2016 1:51 PM +00:00

"They're made up of the odds and ends of DC's Golden Age heroes."

Not really. The Justice Society of America was composed of essentially the two big names from each of DC's anthology comics of the 40s, excluding Superman and Batman. Once a hero got a solo book, he left the team , though those big names returned later on (and by then Wonder Woman participated fully).

So, members of the team at one time or another during the 40s were:

Green Lantern (Alan Scott) The Flash (Jay Garrick) Wonder Woman The Spectre Dr. Fate Hourman Johnny Thunder Dr. Mid-Nite Wildcat Mr. Terrific The Atom Black Canary The Sandman Starman

replies 164May 20, 2016 1:53 PM +00:00

"I find it hard to believe that Ciarra works in theater. Doing what?"

Ciara Renée just did Esmeralda in the concept album for the stage version of Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame.

Ciara Renée ("The Hunchback of Notre Dame," "Pippin," "Big Fish") sings "God Help The Outcasts" from "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" at "The Broadway Princess ...
replies 165May 20, 2016 2:05 PM +00:00

R163 At first I thought he was playing Rip's son all grown up. Yes, he died as a child, but who really stays dead in this show.

replies 166May 20, 2016 2:10 PM +00:00
Green Lantern (Alan Scott) The Flash (Jay Garrick) Wonder Woman The Spectre Dr. Fate Hourman Johnny Thunder Dr. Mid-Nite Wildcat Mr. Terrific The Atom Black Canary The Sandman Starman

The Jack Knight Starman is probably too much to hope for, isn't he?

replies 167May 20, 2016 2:18 PM +00:00

I would think so, since the guy last night said his name was Rex Tyler, not Rick Tyler, r167.

replies 168May 20, 2016 2:20 PM +00:00

I don't know, that did surprise me. I'd figure they'd use the more current incarnation. But they'll probably just do Courtney if they want a Star-person. Maybe a non-binary one.

replies 169May 20, 2016 2:24 PM +00:00
Ciara Renée just did Esmeralda in the concept album for the stage version of Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame.

She sucks.

replies 170May 20, 2016 2:41 PM +00:00

"She sucks."

To each his own. But I suspect you were biased.

replies 171May 20, 2016 2:51 PM +00:00

Okay, then, if singing is more her thing then, fantastic.

I didn't mind her at all, actually. Just read other people here bitching about her acting.


replies 172May 20, 2016 4:18 PM +00:00

Probably a tie in to flash and a way to move Supergirl to Arrowverse/Flashverse -

Flash ends with Cisco having some big vision of earth 2 being split in half - and Laurel of earth two being captured JSA was the JLA of earth two in the original comics (silverage) so I am guessing there will be some tie in to earth two / crisis on infinite earths. There are some obvious holes in the whole time storylines anyways -

Reverse Flash is seen having Gideon during his first trip to find out what year the flash was in How could Reverse Flash exist anyways if Vandal Savage took over earth before the 25th century? One thing no one has mentioned is Reverse Flash came back in time and killed Harrison Wells by accident, but he was looking for the time line Flash first appeared in, but in a later episode he finds it BEFORE he killed Wells. How could Reverse Flash spend so much time in the Flash's time period and NOT attract the Time Master's attention if their whole mission was to protect the timeline??

replies 173May 21, 2016 8:51 AM +00:00

Wentworth was at least half the fun for me on this show and the other half was his chemistry with Dominic Purcell. I guess Wentworth wanted to be on The Flash more, but it sucks that they split up Heatwave and Captain Cold. Unless every episode next year ends with Mick visiting Leonard in the past, I'm not going to be all that invested in tuning in.

replies 174May 21, 2016 10:09 AM +00:00

I love me some hot Hourman!

replies 175May 21, 2016 10:30 AM +00:00

i don't know whether i'm going to watch next season. this season was such a steaming pile of a hot mess, but for the most part, i enjoyed it.

replies 176May 21, 2016 9:03 PM +00:00

"you're the best guy i ever knew. you may not think you're a hero, but you're a hero to me" oh my god. that is the gayest, cheesiest, sappiest shit ever! lmao! 2013!mick is gonna get so much shit for saying that, when technically it wasn't him.

replies 177May 21, 2016 9:08 PM +00:00

R177 that was the best scene of the entire fucking series. I will fight anyone who says differently.

replies 178May 22, 2016 12:49 AM +00:00

If they were going to hint at a gay relationship between cold and mick they should have just had the balls to do it - Mick should have told him he loved him and planted one on him..

replies 179May 22, 2016 4:20 AM +00:00

R78 oh, i definitely wasn't saying it was a bad scene, it was a great scene, it just made me laugh with how cheesy it was, but i like cheese.

replies 180May 22, 2016 8:52 PM +00:00

casting news for season2

EXCLUSIVE: Nick Zano is joining the cast of the CW’s superhero drama series DC’S Legends of Tomorrow as a new series regular for Season 2. He will play Dr. Nate Heywood, a historian whose gra…
replies 181Jun 15, 2016 2:43 PM +00:00

Nick Zano is hung like a horse.

replies 182Jun 16, 2016 12:25 PM +00:00

Pictures, R182, or it never happened.

replies 183Jun 16, 2016 12:28 PM +00:00

I think there is a thread here about who is hung in hollywood and they mention zano as being super well endowed - which is not fair since he looks good too.

replies 184Jun 16, 2016 5:09 PM +00:00

Season 2 villains will be Legion of Doom - Malcolm Merlyn, Damien Darhk, Captain Cold, and (Matt Lescher) Reverse Flash.

replies 185Jul 24, 2016 9:57 PM +00:00

The showrunner still referring to Heatwave/Captain Cold as an old married couple

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replies 186Aug 25, 2016 9:38 AM +00:00

So this show has returned with a new hunkier leader (Nick Zano) and endless lesbian actions for Butch Canary. Are the lesbians watching this? LOL Or is it all for the teenage boys and baby lez?

replies 187Oct 14, 2016 2:02 PM +00:00

Nick Zano is hung like a horse.

replies 188Oct 14, 2016 3:07 PM +00:00

R188 Then it's a small miracle he was running around so much in this episode.

replies 189Oct 14, 2016 3:51 PM +00:00

This show makes NBC's Timeless look like Masterpiece Theatre.

replies 190Oct 14, 2016 3:57 PM +00:00

Eh, it's all good fun.

I lived how Sarah got it on with the future queen. That was funny! Ray playing caveman was funny as well.

The new guy is a hottie also.

I like Timeless as well.

replies 191Oct 14, 2016 7:03 PM +00:00

Have they dropped the Sarah going psycho because she came back from the dead not quite right storyline? Haven't seen any reference to her going off the deep end for many episodes now, if I recall correctly. Now it's all about her lesbian libido. lol

replies 192Oct 15, 2016 12:10 PM +00:00

JSA! Can't wait.

replies 193Oct 15, 2016 12:15 PM +00:00

have they got rid of hawkgirl yet? And brought back the hot hawkman?

replies 194Oct 15, 2016 4:59 PM +00:00

R194, they flew away together last season.

replies 195Oct 15, 2016 5:01 PM +00:00

They did?? I thought the seaon finale had Vandal taking her away in a time ship?

replies 196Oct 15, 2016 5:06 PM +00:00
They did?? I thought the seaon finale had Vandal taking her away in a time ship?

That was the penultimate episode. They killed him, Kendra and Carter decided to run off to be together, Captain Cold died, and then some dude showed up to warn them.

replies 197Oct 15, 2016 5:07 PM +00:00

John Rubinstein as Albert Einstein. Who would have predicted 40 years ago that Broadway's Pippin and Jesus would be on the same super-hero TV show?

replies 198Oct 16, 2016 10:19 AM +00:00

R198 The same awful embarrassing superhero TV show, you mean?

replies 199Oct 16, 2016 11:42 AM +00:00

Who would have thought that Dominic Purcell's Heatwave would be the consistent bright spot in this show?

replies 200Oct 28, 2016 4:53 PM +00:00

I loved this weeks episode!

It was such fun!

Yoda's wisdom is timeless.

replies 201Oct 28, 2016 7:45 PM +00:00

I am really missing Wentworth Miller this season. And Steel's "gee whiz"-ness sure seems redundant with Ray still around.

replies 202Oct 29, 2016 2:27 PM +00:00

He will be returning in a few episodes, r202

replies 203Oct 29, 2016 9:29 PM +00:00

I am not digging the special effects of the Mr. Steele character (or whatever he is or will be called on the show). So, Ray is just Ray from now on? There is this lack of urgency missing somehow. Except from the girl from the Justice League nobody seems to be that interested to find who the mysterious Time Traveler is (which was revealed to be the Reverse Flash) or finding their former captain, Rip.

Wentworth, as Captain Cold, had a guest appearance on Flash in the latest episode. With the Flash's easy access to the multiverse it should be fairly easy for a new Captain Cold from a different world to show up (like the show does with all the Wells guys).

replies 204Oct 29, 2016 10:30 PM +00:00

My apologies, it's the Justice Society.

replies 205Oct 29, 2016 10:31 PM +00:00

I really like LOT but the costumes are terrible. The only costumes on any of the Berlanti shows that look good to me are the Green Arrow's and Flash's. The others are so bulky. Like Patrick J Adams from "Suits" is so hot, but his Hourman costume wasn't flattering at all.

replies 206Oct 30, 2016 5:08 AM +00:00

Which character is the one coming out of closet on one of the four dc shows? At first I thought it would finally be Captain Cold, but they kind of sound like they abandoned that thought.

replies 207Nov 1, 2016 10:47 PM +00:00

Supergirl's (adopted) sister, Alex

replies 208Nov 1, 2016 10:59 PM +00:00

These guys are very poor planners. They'd better step up their game and be less sloppy. Also, they know nothing about being discreet or careful. I have to assume that in this universe the time stream repairs itself given half a chance because they keep changing a lot of stuff.

replies 209Nov 3, 2016 4:52 PM +00:00

Tonight's episode sucked. I'm sorry. It just did.

replies 210Nov 3, 2016 5:05 PM +00:00

I'm surprised there were no comments about the scene where Heatwave was attacking Martin, had him pinned to the floor, while he was under the effect of the zombie formula but came to after a spray of the serum and asked Martin, "What happened? Was I trying to kiss you?"

replies 211Nov 4, 2016 12:20 PM +00:00

The episode was too fucking terrible to even care, R211.

Shame, given how until this week, the show had shown marked improvement over last season.

replies 212Nov 5, 2016 9:52 AM +00:00

Has Arthur Darvill left the show for good?

replies 213Nov 5, 2016 11:36 AM +00:00

Ray trying to be cool lol

replies 214Nov 10, 2016 4:05 PM +00:00

Ray IS cool. Just not the kind of cool Snart was. I would so fuck him. Probably I'd have to stuff something in his mouth first, though. I don't think he'd stop talking through the whole thing.

replies 215Nov 10, 2016 4:54 PM +00:00

The 80's styling was lame. It could have been so much better.

The Damian Dark opening scene channeled Miami Vice very nicely but that was it.

I do feel bad for Ray. I'm liking Ray and Heatwave, I could 'ship them. I still don't get why that new chick is there. What the hell is that spirit animal that shows up all about??

replies 216Nov 10, 2016 6:47 PM +00:00

The hair wasn't big enough. Neither were the shoulder pads

replies 217Nov 10, 2016 7:41 PM +00:00

So, Todd/Obsidian's gay and that's why he wasn't allowed to join the other JSA members on their final mission (which apprently saved his life)?

replies 218Nov 11, 2016 10:28 AM +00:00

Yes, r218. In those days, homos were considered a security risk in part because they could be blackmailed easily. That was one of the excuses, anyway. So they were removed from all government jobs using that rationale. Of course if it was already known they were gay then there's no blackmail, but no one wanted to cloud the issue with facts or logic. Anyway, I liked how they just said "he" when referring to his partner and didn't make it a big deal otherwise.

replies 219Nov 11, 2016 2:25 PM +00:00

[R216] she was also on arrow fighting Damian dark on season 4. Not sure if it's the same character or her off-spring. Her name was vixen.

replies 220Nov 12, 2016 12:32 AM +00:00

I love Ray Palmer and all of his nerdiness and wide-eyed optimism. I liked the scenes with him and Mick, especially the stake out. "What are you doing?" "It's a stake out, so I brought snacks. Apple slices. Want one?"

replies 221Nov 12, 2016 11:28 AM +00:00
I love Ray Palmer and all of his nerdiness and wide-eyed optimism.

I know Routh has gotten some flack over the years as not being the greatest actor, but not everyone can pull this off without coming off too saccharine. He has some decent comic timing, which I think helps make the character likable and not just be a piece of wood.

I also thought his Superman was decent, and he was the least of the problems for that movie. Good to see that movie did not completely destroy his career.

replies 222Nov 12, 2016 11:37 AM +00:00

Sarah and Steele are the only watchable characters in this trainwreck.

Firestorm and Atom were great characters in the comics and they're ridiculous on TV.

replies 223Nov 12, 2016 11:44 AM +00:00

So, Wentworth Miller is gone for good *making the Prison Break reboot* or is his character supposed to be reintroduced later in another timeline?

replies 224Nov 12, 2016 5:08 PM +00:00

Where is Rip? The pale skinny Brit was the glue that held this hot mess together and looking HOT while he was at it too.

Hawkman was kinda a Neanderthal-ish way but the dead eyed wooden acting was unacceptable.

"Legends"... is ratchet because of poor casting choices, some horrible actors, and weak assed writing. Can't wait for Justice League.

Who the fuck cast Franz "Peanut Head" as Firestorm. One note acting...the angry Black guy shtick. Over it. Hawkgirl's fat ass too! She go bye bye..with Neanderthal Man. That's right you 2 series killers... spread your wings and keep on flying.

Welcome Nick Zano, eye candy who can at least act. Like Brandon Routh. Now where the fuck is Rip?

--Anonymous in Kansas City
replies 225Nov 12, 2016 6:42 PM +00:00

I loved Arthur Davill in DW but not so much in LoT. If they bring him back, they need to write his character better.

replies 226Nov 12, 2016 7:41 PM +00:00

R225, Hawkman was terrible. Both he and Hawk Girl are gone for good I hope.

Rip was a drip... I loved the actor as Rory on Dr Who, but man, he was terrible on this, and it looks like they basically wrote him out. After all, his story line is essentially done.

I'm not sure I like The Atom without his atom suit. What... were the effects too expensive? Is that why they got rid of it?

replies 227Nov 12, 2016 8:25 PM +00:00

Arthur Darvil was amazing on Doctor Who, but on Legends his character was just so flat and he couldn't manage to get any depth into this role because it was such a huge ensemble show where the overall plot had to be established quickly and most importantly why these invidividuals would form the Legends of Tomorrow in the first place (I mean Capaint Cold and Heat Wave with all the other do gooders?). The show struggled with the dynamic of the team members and Rip had to be more of a nanny than a character on its own (apart from when the story required him to be like the grieving husband and father who is out for revenge).

replies 228Nov 12, 2016 11:25 PM +00:00
I do feel bad for Ray. I'm liking Ray and Heatwave, I could 'ship them. I still don't get why that new chick is there. What the hell is that spirit animal that shows up all about?

Can we show you how to wiki, grandpa?

replies 229Nov 13, 2016 12:36 AM +00:00

I don't know what's wrong with you people. This is a fun show, definitely more fun than the other sturm und drang super-heroes shows on the CW. The dopey kick the boys were on playing cowboys was great. Heck, they can even make Jonathan Shaech likable.

replies 230Nov 18, 2016 2:48 AM +00:00

R228 Arthur Darvil went from sidekick to leader, and didn't really show enough charisma. Of course, the team was set up with so many strong egos who weren't going to play second bananas, so this role would have been tough to sell even for even more seasoned leading men.

replies 231Nov 18, 2016 1:48 PM +00:00

I missed the chemistry between Jonah and Arthur. They seemed to have a thing in the episode they were working together.

I do like Ray more and more. Now Ray and the new steel guy have great chemistry.

This was another fun episode.

I cannot wait for the 4 episode crossover!!!!

replies 232Nov 18, 2016 9:03 PM +00:00

Ray and the Steel guy need to nude wrestle together. Soon.

replies 233Nov 21, 2016 6:21 AM +00:00

Vixen on LoT is the grandmother of the Vixen who appeared on Arrow.

Went isn't gone he signed a deal to be cast member on all 4 shows just as JB and KC did also.

Arthur Darvil Is still apart of the show.

replies 234Nov 21, 2016 7:01 AM +00:00

Snart is back next week.

DC's Legends of Tomorrow 2x08 "The Chicago Way" Season 2 Episode 8 Promo (Mid-Season Finale) - LEGION OF DOOM — When a new Time Aberration is discovered by t...
replies 235Dec 1, 2016 5:55 PM +00:00

Is it just me, or did the ending of the big alien battle make absolutely no sense at all?

replies 236Dec 1, 2016 6:15 PM +00:00

R236 When did this show ever make sense... Why start now?

replies 237Dec 1, 2016 7:42 PM +00:00

I don't get what even happened. If they're invading all over the world, why would a fight on a garage rooftop even be relevant. They magically created thousands of devices that cause the aliens pain, and somehow this makes them all retreat instead of get more angry? WTF?

How much you want to bet that a world-wide alien invasion doesn't even rank a mention in any of the episodes next week?

replies 238Dec 2, 2016 4:09 AM +00:00

Nice meta callback of Ray saying Kara reminds him of his cousin (Brandon Routh played Superman in Singer's Superman Returns).

replies 239Dec 2, 2016 5:45 AM +00:00

I didn't notice that... good catch.

I really enjoyed it up until the end. When suddenly none of it made any sense at all.

Feels like they needed another hour to really make it work. Too bad they didn't pick up "Constantine" from NBC to run on Fridays.

replies 240Dec 2, 2016 7:53 AM +00:00

Binged the last four episodes and it's not as bad as I thought. I would even say the group dynamics this season is much better than last. Less romance and more camaraderie. Kind of like Sara as the Captain. She's not as ineffectual like Rip and gets the missions done.

replies 241Dec 7, 2016 8:09 AM +00:00

More special effects please. LoT is reduced to another random show without their super powers. It's a little better this season than season one...but still.

Brandon Routh and Nick Zano's chemistry is keeping me interested in LoT, for now. But an atom-less atom? Can't White Canary be given an oral gift? A sonic canary cry...something super-duper? Along with Vixen, all they do is fight hand to hand in combat. B-O-R-I-N-G !! Pony up the budget for some awesome superhero stuff, or go away. Rip needs to return, more butch -- sense of humor --- and a super power. His "gun" is big but it ain't super.

--Anonymous in Kansas City
replies 242Dec 7, 2016 8:41 AM +00:00

I am starting to like this team lineup.

replies 243Dec 8, 2016 7:09 PM +00:00

The sexual tension between Steel Man and ex-Tarzan is pretty intense. I love their fight scenes.

replies 244Dec 9, 2016 8:29 AM +00:00

Dammit, Rip is coming back.

replies 245Dec 9, 2016 11:41 AM +00:00

R245 And not even as his former boring self... Is he a hippie now?

replies 246Dec 9, 2016 12:02 PM +00:00

Vixen is still a non-entity. Does anyone care about her revenge quest?

replies 247Dec 9, 2016 12:44 PM +00:00

Spoilers had said Snart was supposed to return as a member of the Legion of Doom, but it looks like he's just a figment of Mick's imagination. Or could it be the result of some kind of timey-wimey stuff?

Loving the Ray / Nate scenes.

replies 248Dec 9, 2016 5:05 PM +00:00

What was up with Wentworth's face? It normally looks so flawless, but now he has bruises under his eyes. Botox injections? I don't necessarily think so, but he looked pretty beat.

replies 249Dec 9, 2016 11:36 PM +00:00

Wentworth is really camping it up. I keep expecting him to say "Meow" after every line delivery.

I've enjoyed Arthur Darvill in Doctor Who and Broadchurch. I wish he was playing a more likeable character in this one but they now have an excellent opportunity to revamp his character.

replies 250Dec 10, 2016 8:17 PM +00:00
Wentworth is really camping it up. I keep expecting him to say "Meow" after every line delivery.


replies 251Dec 12, 2016 11:21 AM +00:00

R251 And it gets monotonous. If they can reinvent Rip, then Snart needs an overhaul as well.

replies 252Dec 12, 2016 11:29 AM +00:00

r252, it wouldn't make much sense that Snart acts and talks different in Mick's imagination.

replies 253Dec 12, 2016 9:11 PM +00:00

So, still no idea what they're doing with Snart.

And Rip? Bleh.

The whole "George Lucas" thing was so cheesy and silly... but... in a mildly clever way. I guess.

replies 254Jan 24, 2017 5:21 PM +00:00

Arthur Darvill does a pretty good American accent. I'm kind of hoping he doesn't make a full recovery and retains a part of his new personality.

replies 255Jan 25, 2017 2:36 AM +00:00

I want an episode where Ray and Nate have to pretend that they're a gay couple.

replies 256Jan 25, 2017 6:04 PM +00:00

I might start watching this train wreck again now that hottie Gemini Arthur Darvill is back on board.

I like getting my eye candy fix satisfied by the tall, handsome Brit. He's got nice feets too. Head to toe hot. I'd like to rip Rip an ass full of hard cock.

--Anonymous in Kansas City
replies 257Jan 25, 2017 6:20 PM +00:00

R256 In this episode, Ray stating over and over to Nate that he's not sleeping with that girl is very gay-ish. Agree they would be a super hot gay couple. But with Berlanti shows, we can only dream.

replies 258Jan 25, 2017 6:20 PM +00:00

They'd make a great couple actually. Hell, they'd make a great spin-off show... the Adventures of Ray & Nate!

replies 259Jan 25, 2017 6:23 PM +00:00

It was a fantastic episode!!!

"Help us George Lucas, you're our only hope"

It was the best.

Nate and Ray would be cute together.

It did better in the ratings, too.

Flash, on the other hand...... 🤔🤔

replies 260Jan 25, 2017 7:20 PM +00:00

Anyone still watching?

replies 261Feb 22, 2017 6:30 PM +00:00

It is not the greatest show - but it does not take itself too seriously and the angst is not as high as some of the other comic book shows. If you are in the right mood, it is mindless fun. I know Brandon Routh gets a lot of flack here sometimes, but he is easy on the eyes, and he does have enough comic timing and is able to pull of sincere and earnest that I enjoy him as the science nerd/geek.

replies 262Feb 22, 2017 6:51 PM +00:00

and the bromance with the silver dude is fun to watch.

replies 263Feb 22, 2017 6:58 PM +00:00

This was another fun episode.

Who knew Gueniviere liked the ladies? 🤗🤗

Ray had a nice moment with Lancelot as well, too bad he was gutted.

How could they trust Rip on the ship???? Seriously? Or Gideon is seriously stupid.

replies 264Feb 22, 2017 7:03 PM +00:00

Brandon Routh posted this pic of himself in the chain mail armor costume in the snow.

It turned me on.

41.9k Likes, 216 Comments - Brandon Routh (@brandonjrouth) on Instagram: “#SwordOfTheATOM ???? #Camelot #LegendsOfTomorrow #Tonight”
replies 265Feb 22, 2017 8:55 PM +00:00

It would be great if we saw some same-sex MALE kissing. But you know the fanboys who the show is trying to reach.

replies 266Feb 23, 2017 5:51 PM +00:00

Why didn't the team knock Rip out cold and let Gideon unscramble what Eobard messed up in Rip's brain? Of course, more action and drama!

replies 267Feb 26, 2017 5:51 AM +00:00

I want to be inside Arthur Darvill quite badly.

replies 268Feb 26, 2017 8:04 AM +00:00

These people never seem to have a cohesive plan and just bumble along like they have no training or skills. Either that or the plotting is pretty bad.

replies 269Feb 28, 2017 3:59 PM +00:00

Fuck yeah Arthur Darvill.

Fuck Yeah Arthur Darvill's Neck
replies 270Feb 28, 2017 5:50 PM +00:00

R269 I think the Legends not having a plan has actually been mentioned by characters on a few occasions. they're still in the process of trying to act like a team rather than individuals.

replies 271Feb 28, 2017 6:14 PM +00:00

Another fantastic episode!!

For the first time I actually LOVED what Amaya can do. Communicating with the dinosaur? That was awesome!!

I continue to fall more in love with Dr Palmer. He's adorable.

Gideon was a hottie. I'm glad the Captain is back.

replies 272Mar 7, 2017 5:58 PM +00:00

I don't understand - I missed some episodes why is Rip Hunter evil?

replies 273Mar 7, 2017 6:03 PM +00:00

The Legion of Doom (Damian Darke, Reverse Flash, and, I wanna say Malcolm Merlin?) tortured him and brain-washed him, Or something.

I forget exactly 😬

They needed him to tell them the location of the pieces of the spear of destiny or was it the soul-sword??

I watch waaaay too many sci-fi shows 😛

replies 274Mar 7, 2017 6:36 PM +00:00

The latest episode "Doomworld", which centered around the changed reality, was probably the best episode so far, in both the season and the series. The show itself has certainly gotten much better since the start and I think they've already filmed a third season.

replies 275Mar 29, 2017 8:11 PM +00:00

This whole season has been fan-fucking-tastic. The George Lucas episode? The Tolkien episode? Wow.

This last episode was great. Loved how everybody, once they came-to, smacked the shit out of Mick!

Everybody's new personalities were great. Loved the Prison Break shout out.

I laughed out loud when they showed the captain making fondant bows. Hysterical.

replies 276Mar 29, 2017 8:30 PM +00:00

So wait the ship is now a toy on Reverse Flash's desk? Does he know this?

replies 277Mar 30, 2017 1:50 PM +00:00



Arthur Darvill is gone???

replies 278Apr 5, 2017 11:43 AM +00:00

I hope not! He's great.

Another great episode. I felt a burning rage at Thawn and how he brought all those other Flashes.

I loved the sister moment. Cassidy was looking sort of off there. Bad skin day maybe?

This season was a definite improvement over the first one. I might have to buy the DVD's when they come out.

So dinosaurs in LA? Cool.

replies 279Apr 5, 2017 12:40 PM +00:00

I am surprised that the season has only 17 episodes. Usually these type of shows have around 21 when not canceled.

replies 280Apr 5, 2017 1:00 PM +00:00

Legends is adding a Muslim character for season 3.

replies 281Aug 5, 2017 10:23 PM +00:00

Why would they even promote that? Would you say "we are adding a jew and a black too?"

replies 282Aug 6, 2017 6:21 AM +00:00

I want to fuck Arthur Darvill sooo bad.
--Reverse Flash
replies 283Aug 6, 2017 9:30 AM +00:00

r283 he's the least attractive man on that show.

replies 284Aug 6, 2017 10:21 AM +00:00

Anyone watch the Season Three premiere?

replies 285Oct 14, 2017 12:55 PM +00:00

I did.

Can we talk about the steroids Nick Zano did over the break?

replies 286Oct 14, 2017 12:56 PM +00:00

he's much less handsome this time 'round

replies 287Oct 14, 2017 3:13 PM +00:00

So Rip Hunter and Vixen are out as series regulars?

replies 288Oct 14, 2017 3:15 PM +00:00

Rip, yes. Amaya, no.

We're also going to see the Mighty Isis, and Matt Ryan as an acknowledged bisexual John Constantine. And the Ray, currently DC Comics' flagship gay male character, is going to be on a big Arrow-verse crossover and played by Russell Tovey.

replies 289Oct 14, 2017 3:57 PM +00:00

What was the name of the Big Bad this season Rip referred to while taking to the Time Bureau chick? He referenced the Legends being like chainsaws in handling some of the bigger, badder anachronisms then added, "And we're going to need them... [???] is coming".

replies 290Oct 14, 2017 7:16 PM +00:00

"Mallus." I'm not aware of a DC villain by that name.

replies 291Oct 15, 2017 1:39 AM +00:00

Malice was what Rip and several villains are going to appear along with the return of Damien Dhark and Gorilla Grodd is going to appear.

replies 292Oct 15, 2017 12:52 PM +00:00

Uh what ^

replies 293Oct 15, 2017 12:53 PM +00:00

Loved how the supposedly superior professionals fucked up everything even more and the Legends did manage to save the day again.

I hate that Garber is leaving the show. Rory is turning into a joke. He seemed even saltier and came across even more of a douche than usual. He needs to stop drinking.

Hope Mick comes back at some point.

replies 294Oct 15, 2017 2:20 PM +00:00

Garber is leaving? how can they have firestorm without professor stein?

replies 295Oct 15, 2017 5:57 PM +00:00

They had originally wanted Robbie Amell on the show and tried to get him to stay so they could continue his version of Firestorm but couldn't with him wanting to do other projects.

New details have emerged about Victor Garber's exit from Legends of Tomorrow during its third season; the actor will be moving on to Broadway.
replies 296Oct 15, 2017 6:23 PM +00:00

Wake me up when Captain Cold is back.

replies 297Oct 16, 2017 1:21 AM +00:00

I know Firestorm in the connected powers of Martin and Jackson, brought upon by some science experiment. With Victor Garber, I'm wondering if the show will still keep Firestorm but perhaps do something different, say have Martin's daughter recreate her father's experiment or, being from an aberration timelime, having her have some residual gene or something.

replies 298Oct 16, 2017 8:19 PM +00:00

tonight's episode....LAME! a real groaner

replies 299Oct 17, 2017 5:16 PM +00:00

They do play with timelines and all the earth-1-2-3-x 's so they could always get another Stein who is not Garber. ..Didn't the actor who plays Jax come out as Bi?

replies 300Oct 18, 2017 2:28 PM +00:00

I think you’re confusing him with Keiynan Lonsdale from The Flash who came out as bi this past summer.

replies 301Oct 18, 2017 3:28 PM +00:00

Aww, how could you hate on a tiny saber tooth tiger??

It started PTB on trying to give the people "The Greatest Show On Earth!"

There were certain vibes between Sarah and that bitch from the Time Council, or whatever it's called.

replies 302Oct 18, 2017 6:11 PM +00:00

Sarah had a one night stand with Rip?

replies 303Oct 19, 2017 2:21 AM +00:00

So who is the new chic going to be? What're her superpowers?

Is she gonna manifest some sort of animal like Amaya? She's Middle-eastern?

replies 304Oct 24, 2017 6:20 PM +00:00

R304 she basically playing a modified version of the DC character Isis.

replies 305Oct 24, 2017 10:55 PM +00:00

Thought it was one of the weaker episodes in a long time. Victor Garber was wasted, basically just moping about the ship. Enjoyed the rest of the guys, especially Dominic Purcell, with the exception of Franz Drameh who cannot act for anything.

replies 306Oct 25, 2017 8:29 PM +00:00

but Franz is so hunky it doesn't matter....

replies 307Oct 26, 2017 4:34 AM +00:00

The E.T. episode was pretty good.

replies 308Nov 4, 2017 3:26 PM +00:00

Another sweet episode. I felt sort of bad for nerdy Palmer. He sort of reminded me of how they're portraying young Sheldon.

That baby alien was kind of cute.

So Garber will be written off because he wants to be a full-time grandpa?

replies 309Nov 4, 2017 10:15 PM +00:00

The new chick - is she based on a comic book character?

replies 310Nov 4, 2017 10:31 PM +00:00

Not exactly. In the 70s there was a live action Shazam TV show. The other half of the show featured a live action Isis. She was finally brought into the DC Comics universe 30+ years later. Both versions have very different backstories than the current Legends of Tomorrow version.

replies 311Nov 5, 2017 10:28 AM +00:00

For anyone watched soaps the actress playing the new character is the same one who once played gay Noah Mayer wife/pseudo stepsister.

replies 312Nov 5, 2017 12:24 PM +00:00
replies 313Nov 5, 2017 7:11 PM +00:00

Meant to add that I thought the show did a pretty good job of finding a child actor who looked like a younger Ray Palmer.

replies 314Nov 6, 2017 5:55 PM +00:00

Bump for Nick Zano hotness

replies 315Nov 19, 2017 3:39 PM +00:00

Wow, didn't expect Wentworth's character to go completely gay and kiss a man several times. I knew there was something going on when Dominic was quoted saying that their characters would be dealing with some "really topical stuff" recently, upon their reunion. But still, I'm a little surprised.

replies 316Nov 30, 2017 2:19 PM +00:00

Since they've said they will rectify the mistake of not having John Constantine be bi when he shows back up, I wonder if he and Leo will be flirting.

He better not cheat on Ray (the other Ray), is all I'm saying.

replies 317Dec 1, 2017 5:00 PM +00:00

I think it will be revealed that Citizen Cold was romantically involved with the Mick/Heatwave on his earth, and that that's' the "topical stuff" they will deal with. Because I don't think Mick is homophobic and he probably even knew about his Captain Cold's sexuality, but the fact that they were happily together on another earth might be confusing for him. Especially since he's been mourning the loss of his partner since the end of season 1, and now we're 2.5 seasons in.

replies 318Dec 2, 2017 1:19 AM +00:00

When did they establish that Ray and Leo were a couple? I had assumed that Crisis on Earth X was going to be like their previous big crossover and the stories be more or less self-contained, so I only watched the episode that aired during LoT's timeslot.

And I know this has already been said, but that was everything Justice League wasn't.

replies 319Dec 2, 2017 1:24 AM +00:00

It was established during part 3, which aired in Flash's timeslot.
replies 320Dec 2, 2017 3:13 AM +00:00
It aired early in Canada.
Theme song forr the twilight zone
replies 321Dec 2, 2017 3:16 AM +00:00

"You know I can't argue with you when you look at me like that."

"That's why I look at you like that."

They handled that beautifully. Damn.

replies 322Dec 2, 2017 4:14 AM +00:00

I hope Russell and Went fucked.

Went deserves it.

replies 323Dec 2, 2017 10:09 AM +00:00

How did the cast handle all that fucking masculinity that Tovey brought to the set?

replies 324Dec 2, 2017 10:57 AM +00:00

They are used to all the lesbian activity on the part of the White Canary and Supergirl's sister.

--Super Sister
replies 325Dec 2, 2017 10:58 AM +00:00

I didn't think Alex and Sara really clicked, and Sara would ordinarily have chemistry with a garbage can.

replies 326Dec 2, 2017 11:01 AM +00:00

Apparently the moment Tovey stepped foot on set all the women in the cast and crew immediately creamed themeselves. Lotz said the strong smell of masculinity in the air was alsmot too much to handle and she had to masturbate constantly.

replies 327Dec 2, 2017 11:01 AM +00:00

The raw masculinity is even seeping through this discussion. I'm already heading for a cold shower.

replies 328Dec 2, 2017 11:14 AM +00:00

So Supergirl is on a different Earth than Arrow/Flash/Legends? I know her show originated on CBS but I don’t see why they couldn’t have been in the same universe.

I didn’t expect them to write out Professor Stein that way. Victor Garber looked way too healthy in his final scene.

How are the ratings for LOT compared to the other 3 shows? It’s the only one I’ve been watching.

replies 329Dec 2, 2017 12:36 PM +00:00

the crossover stunt KILLED in the ratings. most shows gained millions of viewers over normal numbers.

replies 330Dec 2, 2017 1:03 PM +00:00

Yes r329 Supergirl and Alex are from Earth-38 while Team Flash/Legends/Team Arrow are from Earth-1 along with The Ray who is also from Earth-1 but lives on Earth-X with Citizen Cold.

replies 331Dec 2, 2017 6:23 PM +00:00

I want a Supergirl/Arrow/Flash/Legends Bizarro World cross-over!!

replies 332Dec 2, 2017 7:24 PM +00:00

It's too bad that Wentworth has already stated that this will be his last appearance on these shows. Does anybody know how long he's sticking around for?

replies 333Dec 2, 2017 8:10 PM +00:00

Wentworth could stand to dial back his performance a bit. His line readings are pure camp.

--Eartha Kitt
replies 334Dec 2, 2017 8:28 PM +00:00

"I didn’t expect them to write out Professor Stein that way. Victor Garber looked way too healthy in his final scene. "

Isn't he returning to 'Hello, Dolly?' I thought that's why they killed him off.

The extras in the street fight scenes are hilarious, running back and forth and never AWAY from the shooting.

Tovey's accent; WTF? Dutch Canadian?

Double wedding? Could it be any more silly?

Loved the multiple man kisses, though.
replies 335Dec 2, 2017 9:43 PM +00:00

I thought Professor Stein would retire with the birth of his grandchild (nice touch naming him Ronnie) but I didn’t expect them to kill him off.

replies 336Dec 2, 2017 9:46 PM +00:00

OMG! This was fanfuckingtastic!!!!!!

All 4 episodes kicked ass.

It was cute seeing alternate Kara and alternate Arrow together.

The ending sucked balls. Fuck Felicity for taking away Barry and Iris' wedding thunder.

I loved the man-smooches as well. Why did Snart stay behind?

Why can't movie DC be like this?

replies 337Dec 2, 2017 10:32 PM +00:00

Really, Tovey's character is from Earth 1. He should have stayed, too. stupid.

replies 338Dec 2, 2017 10:33 PM +00:00

I LOLed, R334!

And yeah, the writers are not always good at moving characters on and off the board. They could have just sent Wally to Earth-2 to be with Jesse until they were ready to do something with him, but that would have made too much sense.

--Donna Troy
replies 339Dec 3, 2017 9:06 AM +00:00
Really, Tovey's character is from Earth 1. He should have stayed, too. stupid.

But if he had stayed then Earth-1's newest crisis would have been all the female inhabitants going around with wet spots on their clothing due to all that raw fuckin' masculinity on display.

replies 340Dec 3, 2017 11:36 AM +00:00

Poor Russell - will he ever live that down?

replies 341Dec 3, 2017 11:37 AM +00:00

Even Ray Palmer and Cisco had funny feelings around him.

--Randon Brouth
replies 342Dec 3, 2017 11:38 AM +00:00

Even dudebros like Atom & Vibe have their body chemistry thrown off when in the presence of such strong masculine intensity as Tovey's.

replies 343Dec 3, 2017 11:40 AM +00:00

They were just thrown by that strange accent. Pennsyl-Vancouver?

replies 344Dec 3, 2017 8:09 PM +00:00

Looks like Snart is about to get a lobotomy in the next episode. For being gay? Sounds pretty dark.

replies 345Dec 6, 2017 2:07 PM +00:00

So, they got rid of Jackson as well? I guess they couldn't have both Professor Stein and Jackson live and leave the Legends on their own free will.

Love the latest one with the speaking toy being mistaken as a Vikings god.

replies 346Dec 6, 2017 3:51 PM +00:00

That was so ridiculous!!

But believable, those poor ignorant, superstitious people!

I had no idea Jackson was leaving as well! That sucks, poor guy. He probably didn't want to leave.

Does he have anything else lined up?

I love that Snart is back. Wtf is Millers's problem? Is he just super busy with other projects that he can't stick around?

replies 347Dec 6, 2017 4:04 PM +00:00

I assume he's leaving because they feel that you can only rehash a dead character so many times In different ways before it literally becomes tiring and ridiculous, even if he is wildly popular. At this point, I think the options are to either actually resurrect the character by going back in time or finding him in the "time stream" or whatever, or finally let go of him for good. They seem to have chosen the latter.

replies 348Dec 7, 2017 12:54 AM +00:00

Were there not plans to get rid of most of the original Legends and introduce some new Legends after season one?

Love Sigmund Freud Snart trying to help the Legends get over Stein's death with that ridiculous puppet. Wentworth is a comedy genius.

I've got to admit Supergirl, Arrow, The Flash, and Legends of Tomorrow got really good. That crossover special last week was pretty great.

replies 349Dec 7, 2017 2:48 AM +00:00

I see why someone compared Leo to Earth Kitt. Went is basically purring.

replies 350Dec 11, 2017 3:50 PM +00:00

Miller is a really terrific guy. He enjoyed his time back on the show....especially kissing Tovey.

Wentie said he was literally drunk off of the masculinity after the kiss for the rest of the day.

It was like he absorbed some of Tovey's masculine might. Said he wanted to power lift, grab a brewski and scratch his balls all evening.

replies 351Dec 13, 2017 12:49 AM +00:00

They're supposedly going to replace Firestorm with someone else from the Arrowverse who has already been seen.

Stein is dead and so is Ronnie and Jason so there's no one currently who can fuse with Jax to reform Firestorm.

replies 352Dec 13, 2017 11:32 AM +00:00

Vixen and the new gal are too similar.

The MVPs are Steel, Canary and The Atom.

replies 353Dec 13, 2017 2:31 PM +00:00
They're supposedly going to replace Firestorm with someone else from the Arrowverse who has already been seen.

It's Wally West.

replies 354Dec 13, 2017 4:30 PM +00:00

I think the Eartha Kitt like purr is intentional. I remember Miller posted her "I Want to Be Evil" clip a couple of days before his first appearance as Captain Cold on the Flash.

I also think Katie Sakhoff has been a good camp replacement and would love to see them interact.

replies 355Dec 14, 2017 9:52 AM +00:00