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20th Century Fox has closed a deal with director Neill Blomkamp to develop a new “Alien” movie, sources confirm.

The untitled sci-fi project is separate from “Prometheus 2,” which Fox is still making with Ridley Scott.

20th Century Fox has closed a deal with director Neill Blomkamp to develop a new “Alien” movie, sources confirm. The untitled sci-fi project is separate from “Prometheus 2,”…
replies 153Feb 20, 2015 1:36 AM +00:00

Honesty, what's the point? Can't we come up with something new?

replies 1Feb 20, 2015 1:54 AM +00:00

Oh heavens. Some people don't know when to quit. H.R. Giger is dead, Ridley Scott has gone nuts, Sigourney ruined everything with Alien 3, and Prometheus was an incongruous disappointment. Pull the plug and walk away, already.

replies 2Feb 20, 2015 1:59 AM +00:00

I do get a good laugh out of thinking of someone pitching this and the entire room getting all excited about it as if they've created something new and wonderful.

replies 3Feb 20, 2015 2:11 AM +00:00

I see an an opening.

replies 4Feb 20, 2015 2:19 AM +00:00

Any credibility or cachet that the original "Alien" had was instantly ended with Aliens" and the canon-altering choices made in that film. Nothing coming after that point could undo that damage.

replies 5Feb 20, 2015 2:23 AM +00:00

I already responded in the original thread, from yesterday, I think...

replies 6Feb 20, 2015 2:58 AM +00:00

I disagree. Alien and Aliens both stand on their own as good films, they're just different and reflect different times even though they aren't that far apart. I liked Prometheus too.

replies 7Feb 20, 2015 3:02 AM +00:00

I'm one of the nerds that went in on the Prometheus thread to express my disappointment.

But I couldn't be more thrilled about the possibility of the actual Alien saga having a continuation. But of course that universe holds far less interest if Ellen Ripley is not part of the story.

As much as I feel dismissing Alien 3 and Resurrection as hypersleep dreams is a cop out, it feels like something along those lines could be excused if a great new film is delivered. I know many fans would be more than happy to wipe the existence of both of those films from their memory.

replies 8Feb 20, 2015 10:27 AM +00:00

Judging from the pre-production art, it looks like the Alien bodies will be hulled out and used by humans as some sort of bio-armor.

Looks very promising.
replies 9Feb 20, 2015 10:33 AM +00:00

Alien and Aliens were both very good sci-fi movies. I loved them both. But everything after that has been shit. Alien 3 was ridiculously lame. Alien Resurrection was even worse. Prometheus was a mess. All the Alien vs. Predator movies don't add much, although if you just enjoy them as diverting sci-fi flicks they're OK. But I agree with R1. Can't they come up with anything new?

replies 10Feb 20, 2015 10:36 AM +00:00

Nope. All entries in a franchise - any story franchise - must be cohesive and must respect and sustain the credibility of the source material. Altering the origin, motivation and even appearance of the title character to "reflect different times" is bullshit and establishes a path that leads to crap like sequels 3 & 4, and, ultimately, Prometheus. You have to view each movie through the lens the original creators intended, otherwise, what's the point? They aren't stand alone entries, they are meant to build on, and reinforce, the original concept and intention of the source material, and every sequel has managed, via the ego and hubris of each new director, to accomplish the opposite of that.

No wonder badly conceived sequels to this or any film continue to make money when people don't actually care about what they see.

Alien 5? Sure. Bring it on. It'll be total shit and people will flock to it because it will "reflect our time". Because everybody knows that what a futuristic movie requires to help suspend disbelief is a reflection of our very contemporary, very earthbound times and attitudes.

replies 11Feb 20, 2015 10:41 AM +00:00

I think I'm the only person who actually liked Alien Resurrection. It wasn't in the same league as the first two films, which were brilliant, but I thought it was a good story and enjoyable. I know, flame away!

I agree about Alien 3. It had two or three decent scenes, but overall it was lackluster. And the less said about that POS Prometheus the better.

If Sigourney isn't coming back for the next Alien, I can't say I'll be all that interested.

replies 12Feb 20, 2015 11:00 AM +00:00

Oh, political allegory about South Africa in a scifi candy coated shell. How original! Who will the creepy District 9/A Team guy, Sharty Copley play?

Maybe they'll be cutting-edge and cast John Boyega?

replies 13Feb 20, 2015 11:06 AM +00:00

I'd love to see a scarred up Hicks in Alien 5. I was so pissed when they killed him and Bishop. Newt, not so much

I wonder if Michael Biehn will reprise his role. Is he still good looking?

replies 14Feb 20, 2015 11:11 AM +00:00

I'm mostly worried about the director Neill Blomkamp. I just don't like the tone of his films although obviously there's only been two. District 9 was sort of ok but it didn't really make me feel that much. There's no denying that the film had character, though. Elysium on the other hand lacked character almost completely. It was lame and plasticky. Blomkamp loves his special FX. Based on a trailer I don't like the feel of Chappy at all.

Alien is the greatest movie in the saga and to me Prometheus is next in line. Then Predator 2, Aliens, Predator, Alien 3, Alien vs. Predator, Predators, Alien 4, and then the remaining cheapo films. I list them in the order that I enjoy watching them but the order changes sometimes.

I know Predator 2 as a movie might not be as slick as Alien 3 but I just love watching it time to time. For some reason I enjoy the feel of AvP a lot but at the same time knowing it's more on the B-film level brings it down. Then again being more simple it stays more pure. Alien 4 had some nice things in it but ultimately they tried to be too art-y with it, and I have a feeling Blomkamp's film will be close to that in tone.

I'm much more excited about Prometheus 2. I loved the feeling of coldness of life in our universe the first one had. I know many people hate the film with passion but even acknowledging all the film's faults I just can not NOT love it.

replies 15Feb 20, 2015 11:45 AM +00:00

I guess I'm in the minority, but I'm excited. I love Blomkamp's stuff and I think he's a good fit for the Weyland-Yutani universe.

replies 16Feb 20, 2015 11:52 AM +00:00

Ellen who, OP? Ellen Degeneres?

replies 17Feb 20, 2015 12:05 PM +00:00

I treat the films in the Alien franchise after "Alien3"(including the risible "Prometheus") much as I do the lottery season and final episode of "Roseanne"....they don't exist.

And I know a lot of people hate Alien 3 and I'm not a huge fan of it either...but it does have a uncompromising,remote atmospehre to it and Ripley's suicide,I think,provides a suitably desolate conclusion to the story and was very much in keeping with the spirit of the first movie. If only it had ended there.

replies 18Feb 20, 2015 12:10 PM +00:00

It would be really nice to have a story that stayed true to the universe created by the first 2 films... and also be filled with characters whose actions makes sense.

No Damon Lindelof caliber scribes, please!!!

replies 19Feb 20, 2015 12:57 PM +00:00

The Wired assessment of the pros and cons to Blomkamp being handed the reins.

Alien is coming back! Writer/director Neill Blomkamp announced via his Instagram yesterday that he will take on the 30-year-old franchise as his next movie, and we've got a lot of thoughts on the matter. Here are a few reasons why we can't wait for his take on the Alien franchise—and a couple reasons why we're just the slightest bit apprehensive.
replies 20Feb 20, 2015 1:57 PM +00:00

Neil Blomkamp is a shit director that somehow has convinced people he can make a good film. District 9 was fucking garbage and the first instance of proof that going beyond five nominees for Best Picture would bring laughable results.

And looking back over 2009, what a joke year. Besides District 9, The Blind Side, Up in the Air, Julie & Julia, The Last Station, The Lovely Bones, Invictus, The Messenger, Nine, Crazy Heart, all up for one (in most cases more) major award each.

replies 21Feb 20, 2015 2:08 PM +00:00

I highly recommend watching the first three Alien installments as one long, interminable movie. Substitute the extended version of Aliens for the theatrical version, and sub the 1992 Assembly Cut (aka Working Version, Special Edition) of Alien 3 in plave of the theatrical release.

DO NOT include the theatrical release of Alien 3.

If you have the technology, make intelligent edits between films so you're not distracted by credits.

It's a completely ridiculous, yet thoroughly enjoyable and compellingly thrilling, monumental space opera.

You will also think more highly of Alien 3 afterward.

replies 22Feb 20, 2015 4:03 PM +00:00

They need to find someone as hot as Michael Biehns was in "Aliens."

replies 23Feb 20, 2015 4:08 PM +00:00

Why do people hate Alien 3 so much? I thought the premise of an isolated prison was a welcome change from the whole space-marine bug hunt of Aliens. Which they could've easily re-hashed if they wanted to. And the English actors were really convincing as well. Aliens is my favorite so far in the franchise. But I really enjoy Alien 3 and will watch it when it's on television.

replies 24Feb 20, 2015 4:15 PM +00:00

Joss Whedon fucked up Alien 4/Resurrection with his usual self-regarding dialogue, imo.

I hope they can fix this series. I hope Sigourney has a voice. They won't get another chance.

replies 25Feb 20, 2015 4:18 PM +00:00

If they use Sigourney, there'll be an epic whineout on i09/GammaSquad/SocialJusticeWa - rriorTumblrspace about "another white person?whhhhyyyyyyy??????"

Just like the shitfit they're having over the possibility that the new Spider-Man might not be Donald Glover, and might be another detested White guy.

replies 26Feb 20, 2015 4:29 PM +00:00

How could they get pissed about Sigourney playing the same role she's played in 4 movies already?

replies 27Feb 20, 2015 4:50 PM +00:00

I'm excited too R16. I love the Alien franchise. Hopefully Sigourney will be back. She has recently said she would never do another one but I guess we'll see...

Bring on Aliens 5!

replies 28Feb 20, 2015 7:50 PM +00:00
You will also think more highly of Alien 3 afterward.

Alien 3 is not a bad film at all. It's very stylish and technically very well made. BUT it has a weak story for an Alien film. When I'm watching it I always think it would be a great film if the monster was something else than the xenomorph, and the film wouldn't have anything to do with the Alien-saga.

Then again it IS an Alien film and the preceding Aliens wasn't all that either. Aliens did have a tight and nasty atmosphere, though, but I've always thought it's way too technical and lacks the human element. James Cameron has always had trouble making his characters feel really alive.

replies 29Feb 21, 2015 12:45 AM +00:00

Well, you can't leave easy money on the table. I just re-watched District 9 the other day... and it's just not as good as I remember. The trailer for Chappie looks "not promising." I'm going to finally watch Elysium tonight, but with it's reviews... I'm not optimistic. Blomkamp may have a very, very, very limited range. Moreover, I'm one of the few people who doesn't like Aliens and I really wish they never started the whole series and had left it alone with Alien as a one-and-done. Of all the films in the series, it's a work of genius and a true classic.

replies 30Feb 21, 2015 1:16 AM +00:00
Just like the shitfit they're having over the possibility that the new Spider-Man might not be Donald Glover, and might be another detested White guy.

You actually think that they're going to make a $100 million tentpole franchise film for worldwide release with a leading man who is not a cute white guy?


replies 31Feb 21, 2015 4:33 AM +00:00

The best description I've read of the first two Alien films is that Alien was like visiting a haunted house and Aliens was like a roller coaster. The two films had different atmospheres that both worked.

The subsequent films just lacked that certain atmosphere. Alien 3 ruined the franchise for me. After all that rooting for Ripley, she winds up with an xenomorph queen inside her? It just didn't work.

replies 32Feb 21, 2015 7:09 AM +00:00

They need a new Predator film. It's the only film creature that has ever frightened me.

replies 33Feb 21, 2015 7:15 AM +00:00

Alien 3 is the darkest and most existential of the original films. It forms a perfect bookend to the trilogy. Ripley is confronted with the nothingness of the human condition. There is no meaning, no redemption, no happy ending - only death. She has lost her family, friends, colleagues - even her physical identity has been subsumed by the alien (i.e. she become a simple carrier for the parasite). In this moralistic void, however, she still acts heroicly, shows empathy and kindness to others (murderers and rapists, no less) and makes the ultimate self sacrifice. For this reason, I find Alien 3 to be the most philosophically haunting of the series.

replies 34Feb 21, 2015 7:28 AM +00:00

"Alien: Resurrection" was really bad, so bad that I thought that was the reason the franchise ended. Winona Ryder in an action picture? Ripley as a clone? It SUCKED.

replies 35Feb 21, 2015 7:33 AM +00:00

Resurrection was very cartoonish and immature compared to its predecessors. It effectively killed the series.

replies 36Feb 21, 2015 7:37 AM +00:00

I think Blomkamp is a hack, so I don't have much hope for a really good Alien5. And, frankly, because of Alien3 and Alien4 being such cinematic abortions, Alien5 has to knock it out of the ballpark - it could easily be the last one with Sigourney.

replies 37Feb 21, 2015 7:42 AM +00:00

So is it just wishful thinking that Sigourney joins Alien 5? Or is it confirmed that she's interested? I assumed that Alien 5 will be a partial reboot of the series with a new actress playing the heroine. Kinda like the Indiana Jones series.

replies 38Feb 21, 2015 8:48 AM +00:00

They should clone Newt. I'm sure they have blood samples from Aliens. Anyway, let her be the new heroine of the next however many Alien movies. But which actress would be a good fit to play an adult Newt?

replies 39Feb 21, 2015 12:22 PM +00:00

Why don't they just hire the same actress who played Newt? Honestly.

replies 40Feb 21, 2015 12:29 PM +00:00
Why don't they just hire the same actress who played Newt? Honestly.

Because Aliens was the only movie she ever played in?

replies 41Feb 21, 2015 11:30 PM +00:00

Okay, why in the world would Ellen be in this? To dance with the Alien? So random. Why do we have to gay up everything?

replies 42Feb 21, 2015 11:52 PM +00:00

Ellen Ripley.
replies 43Feb 21, 2015 11:58 PM +00:00

No, just no. Ellen and Ripley would NOT make a good couple even though Sigourney Weaver is really butch.

replies 44Feb 22, 2015 12:02 AM +00:00

My guess is that Ripley will have a smallish appearance in the form of an advisor. Sadly, I don't see the studio letting a sixty something Sigourney to lead an action film. I hope I am wrong though, and we see Ripley back in the nightmare, fighting her demons.

replies 45Feb 22, 2015 12:10 AM +00:00

It will be garbage.

replies 46Feb 22, 2015 12:50 AM +00:00

Sigourney is definitely in !!

Blomkamp says they will make this movie as if Alien 3 and Resurrection never existed. And the story will do the essential - carry on Ripley's saga.

I'm OK with that.

Announced without fanfare on his personal Instagram account earlier this month, the news that writer-director Neill Blomkamp has been working on a secret reboot of the Alien franchise—and would mak…
replies 47Feb 26, 2015 10:24 AM +00:00
Blomkamp says they will make this movie as if Alien 3 and Resurrection never existed.

That's too bad. Alien 3 is good enough. Ripley died. They have really insulted this character.

replies 48Feb 26, 2015 10:29 AM +00:00

R34, that's how I've always felt about Alien3. You put it into words. Thank you.

replies 49Feb 26, 2015 10:32 AM +00:00

At the time of Alien 3 I thought I remember reading that Sigourney insisted that Ripley die as part of the story.

Didn't she want to be done with series then?

replies 50Feb 26, 2015 10:33 AM +00:00

I liked Alien 3. Alien Resurrection was okay except for Winona, her acting is horrid.

replies 51Feb 26, 2015 10:51 AM +00:00

Weaver and Blomkamp... conspiring.

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replies 52Feb 27, 2015 2:39 PM +00:00

Is Michael Biehn going to be Hicks? Is he still hot? I would like him to be in it. Yes.

replies 53Feb 27, 2015 2:46 PM +00:00

Fantastic news to hear that Sigourney is in and the story will carry on Ripley's saga. Can't wait. Thanks R47!

replies 54Feb 27, 2015 2:52 PM +00:00

Ellen Burstyn is too old to fight the alien.

--Emily Lutella
replies 55Feb 27, 2015 3:03 PM +00:00

Short interview clips of Sigourney and Neill actually speaking about making the new movie.

She says that she likes that the idea for a story came about 'organically' from Blomkamp working on his own - as opposed to a story being created because the studio was demanding a sequel be made and then bringing in a hired gun.

That sounds similar to when she insisted that Ripley die in Alien 3 because she respected that character too much to have her as part of any possible terrible stories that Fox wanted in the future.

So I wonder why she agreed to do Resurrection? Was that one just for a paycheck?

Rencontrés sur le tapis rouge de "Chappie", le réalisateur Neill Blomkamp et l'actrice Sigourney Weaver nous ont parlé du prochain défi qui les attend : "Ali...
replies 56Feb 28, 2015 9:57 AM +00:00

Weaver was on Kelly & Michael this morning. I recorded it only to see if they asked her anything about the rumors about a new Alien movie.

They didn't bring it up at all. Curses!

replies 57Mar 3, 2015 10:26 AM +00:00
So I wonder why she agreed to do Resurrection? Was that one just for a paycheck?

She liked the script.

Count me among the few that liked Alien 3 and Alien 4 just fine.

The four Alien movies are awesome, each in their own way... primarily because each movie is such a different style (even genre).

replies 58Mar 3, 2015 11:04 AM +00:00

New concept art from Blomkamp which seems to indicate that the story will involve Ripley and Hicks alive and awake together after the events of Aliens.

Neill Blomkamp has shared more concept art from his 'Alien' movie, featuring Ellen Ripley (Sigourney Weaver) and Hicks (Michael Biehn).
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replies 59Jul 17, 2015 7:32 AM +00:00

Makes sense R59, since 3 & 4 were weakest entries in the series. They can set the story between events of 2 & 3. Other franchises have done the same thing (completely ignore entire stories/movies)

replies 60Jul 17, 2015 8:37 AM +00:00

I'm so disappointed to know that they are trying to bring Prometheus 2 even closer in line with the Alien franchise.

Replacing "Prometheus" with "Alien" in the title for the sequel? I am one that was so disappointed with absurdity of Prometheus that I want those film series to remain entirely separate entities. I'm OK with there being a Prometheus 2, but for me it no longer needs to connect as a prequel to the original Alien film since it feels like they sullied the connection by making a poor (debatably) first film.

Director Ridley Scott explains why Prometheus 2 will be titled Alien: Paradise Lost and hints that it'll feature xenomorphs and a Ripley connection.
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replies 61Sep 26, 2015 10:10 AM +00:00

Will Susan Weaver be in it?

replies 62Sep 26, 2015 10:48 AM +00:00

Time maybe to get a bit worried. Or excited. Deadline is reporting/assuming that Neil Blomkamp is out of the whole Alien franchise and the film he was supposed to direct has been morphed into Prometheus 2 Ridley Scott will direct. Obviously the name, Alien: Paradise Lost, is sort of a big hint.

I wouldn't mind Scott directing a new Alien film at all but personally I loved Prometheus and wanted to see Shaw's and David's journey into the world of Engineers. That might still happen, especially since Scott was talking about the 'dark side of the moon' where xenomorphs are manufactured, but Deadline's article make it sound like xenomorphs might be the main focus. I've never been too wild about Blomkamp but I wanted to see his take on Alien while Ridley would've continued on his Prometheus path.

It’s not entirely a shock, but plans for a Neill Blomkamp-directed film in the Alien franchise have been put on hold and possibly set aside entirely, and the District 9 director is moving on …
replies 63Oct 30, 2015 8:08 PM +00:00

Someone needs to pull the plug on Ridley.

replies 64Oct 30, 2015 8:36 PM +00:00

Ridley Scott just pissed off every nerd on the planet. No one wants another Prometheus movie. The first one was bad enough.

replies 65Oct 30, 2015 8:37 PM +00:00

R65, plenty of people want another Prometheus movie.

replies 66Oct 30, 2015 9:29 PM +00:00

Helen Reddy's Worst Nightmare Ever Pt. 2, the public demands it!

replies 67Oct 30, 2015 9:47 PM +00:00

Neill Blomkamp made a tweet, and Screenrant's interpretation is, that Blomkamp is still on board, bust has to wait until after Prometheus 2 is released.

More at URL.

Neill Blomkamp confirms that his Alien film has been delayed, while Ridley Scott moves froward on the Prometheus sequel, Alien: Paradise Lost.
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replies 68Oct 31, 2015 12:06 AM +00:00


_But_ has to wait ...
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replies 69Oct 31, 2015 12:11 AM +00:00

I hope Michael Biehn is correct about this- that the Alien 5 movie will still happen eventually.

The character of Newt as a child was annoying - as children can be in movies. But the idea of that little girl growing up to be a bad ass Ripley-type character is appealing.

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replies 70Dec 28, 2015 8:19 PM +00:00

I am way more excited for "Prometheus 2" than a continuation of the Ripley/Alien story. The story of "Prometheus" -- the creation of mankind -- is far more interesting.

replies 71Dec 28, 2015 8:25 PM +00:00

I was intrigued by some elements of Prometheus but its lapses in storytelling logic are really inexcusable.

I'll see the sequel but it holds nowhere near as much interest for me as the possibility that the Alien franchise just might get back on track from the decades-long shitification detour it's taken.

replies 72Dec 28, 2015 8:31 PM +00:00

There is no more Prometheus's now called Alien: Convenant. Ridley has essentially stated he wants to take back "ownership" of the Alien franchise. The first of three new Alien films by Ridley, with all the original Alien lifeforms back in action...the ones he thought were too stale for Prometheus. Blomkamp can kiss 5 goodbye...

replies 73Dec 28, 2015 8:32 PM +00:00

Let him go endlessly back to the well, no one complains when George A. Romero does it. I just hope he has some smidgen of talent left.

replies 74Dec 28, 2015 11:41 PM +00:00

See preceding thread.!So is Aliens a classic?

replies 75Dec 29, 2015 2:35 AM +00:00

Actually R74 some people have complained about Romero and the last few Dead films, although I found the last couple watchable. Ridley has had decades to take another wack. Three other filmmakers have put their stamp on the series in the meantime. I had qualms about Blomkamp continuing the franchise, but felt he deserved a shot, at least with some script supervision. It'll take Ridley 6-9 years to do his trilogy of prequels. It definitely leaves a bad taste in my mouth...

replies 76Dec 29, 2015 9:56 AM +00:00

I'm not sure why Ridley is doing this with Prometheus. It's genesis was as an alien movie, then he brought Damon Lindelof to edit the script and take the alien out. At the time of its release and up until recently he said the sequel would branch off into a new direction and become astory more focused on the engineers and moving away from The alien creature. Then Neil Blomkamp excited the Alien fanbase with the news of an Alien 5 starring Sigorney Weaver and Michael Biehn, with the promise of retconning Alien 3 and Resurrection. Almost out of jealousy, in short order, Ridley decided to completely reverse course, take the Alien franchise back, make Prometheus 2: Paradise Lost into Alien: Covenant. What happens to the fan dream slash almost reality of Alien 5 is anyone's gues. But why is Ridley sabotaging his own fanbase?

replies 77Dec 29, 2015 10:25 AM +00:00

According to Sigourney, Blomkamp's Alien 5 is still going to happen. It wasn't totally killed by the Prometheus sequel, but only delayed. She says it will happen once Alien: Covenant is complete next year.

She is also quoted as saying that Ripley will be in every scene of the new movie, which strikes me as very tongue-in-cheek. So I hope she isn't kidding about the whole thing.

There is also some speculation (from other sources, not Weaver) that one of the characters in Covenant will be Ripley's mother. As a real fan of the Alien movies, I'm not sure how I feel about making that connection in the Prometheus storyline.

Sigourney Weaver has confirmed that Neill Blomkamp's 'Alien' sequel is still "definitely happening"
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replies 78Jun 11, 2016 4:57 AM +00:00

Hmm...Ripley's mother in Covenant? I don't know how I feel -- Ripley's appeal was that she was all alone fighting these aliens.

replies 79Jun 11, 2016 5:06 AM +00:00

Will Newt be doing her high-pitched scream in Alien 5?

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee - ! - Newt

replies 80Jun 11, 2016 5:12 AM +00:00

Am i the only one who thought the first Aliens vs Predator wasn't too bad?

replies 81Jun 11, 2016 5:35 AM +00:00

I'm not sure what Alien 5 would add in terms of theme or commentary after the previous four films. The original had some nice feminist/Marxist subtext, and Aliens was a great send-up of Reaganite militarism (Lets blow everything up! Nuke 'em good!). Alien 3 really exposed the existential core of the storyline and Resurrection - which I have grown to like more over the years - is an interesting postmodern tragi-comic take on the series. So, where does that leave a fifth instalment? There are some interesting possibilities in terms of an older Ripley challenging ageist notions of heroism, femininity, etc but I can't imagine scut rent studio or this particular director going there.

replies 82Jun 11, 2016 5:40 AM +00:00

*a current studio or this particular director

replies 83Jun 11, 2016 5:41 AM +00:00

Alien 5 would be far better if it were about the alien crash landing on earth and consuming a pack of parasitic, out of touch, creativity-free filmmakers and studio heads ruining a couple of treasured movies from the past because they're too spoiled and enabled to bother attempting an original, interesting film (and don't suggest "The Martian" as an exception, because that was a big old turd).

replies 84Jun 11, 2016 8:06 AM +00:00

I would love that R84. The Aliens kill Bradley Cooper, Leonardo Dicaprio, Nick Jonas, Channimg Tatum, Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, Jennifer Lawrence and that heavy-set female comedian.

Excellent premise.

replies 85Jun 11, 2016 8:12 AM +00:00

Watch Alien, Aliens (Special; Edition) and Aliens 3 (Assembly Cut/Working Print) as one continuos movie. It's an amazing, Wagnerian space opera and Aliens 3 makes perfect sense as the end to the beginning and middle.

replies 86Jun 11, 2016 8:16 AM +00:00

I've done that R86. You're right. Amazing.

replies 87Jun 11, 2016 8:17 AM +00:00

Predator is a corporate tie-in and IMHO has nothing to do with the Alien franchise.

To me, they are still in descending order from the original, though Aliens was an entirely different thrill ride and close in my mind to the original and overall quality.

I was really happy with the idea of Prometheus explaining where the aliens came from and effectively possibly conquering the obnoxious Engineers but then moving on. But if they come back I don't mind, and wonder if the Covenant is an effective pact where the Aliens are used to take down the Engineers and figure out why they want to destroy their "offspring".

replies 88Jun 11, 2016 8:27 AM +00:00

Alien vs Predator is the reason why Cameron and Scott didn't team up for a third Alien. 20th Century Fox insulted both and the franchise with that film.

replies 89Jun 11, 2016 8:34 AM +00:00
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replies 90Jun 11, 2016 8:35 AM +00:00

Alien vs Predator was one of those horrible video game tie ins from the early 00s in the vein of Doom, Resident Evil, etc that signalled the creative collapse of Hollywood.

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replies 91Jun 11, 2016 8:36 AM +00:00
James Cameron Wanted To Make ‘Aliens 5’ With Ridley Scott, Says ‘Prometheus’ “Didn’t Add Up Logically”
replies 92Jun 11, 2016 8:36 AM +00:00

Hey r8 if you are still around can you explain some of the main ways Aliens departed from the canon that ruined things so much for you? I like to know.

replies 93Jun 11, 2016 8:39 AM +00:00

In the first film, The Company was a computer. In the second, it was a bunch of tobacco-addicted New York Jews. In the third movie, The Company was Asian, and in the fourth, there was no more Company.

replies 94Jun 11, 2016 9:01 AM +00:00

The Company reflects the economic anxieties of the times when the different instalments were made: Automation (70s), Wall Street raiders (80s), globalization (90s) and post capitalism (00s). I think that's a rather interesting aspect of the franchise.

replies 95Jun 11, 2016 9:07 AM +00:00

I love Sigourney Weaver so much. Please make Alien 5 while she's still around and able to film it!

replies 96Jun 11, 2016 4:20 PM +00:00

I think Alien 5 will happen. I don't know about that Neil Bloomkamp his movies tend to stink.

replies 97Jun 11, 2016 4:23 PM +00:00

Sigourney is still talking about this Blomkamp film happening, and the divergence from the story told in Alien 3.

Maybe this panel at Comic-Con is when we will get something definitive announced. Can't wait for it.

A new Blu-ray release is also set for September.
replies 98Jul 7, 2016 8:51 AM +00:00

Are you going R98?

replies 99Jul 7, 2016 8:53 AM +00:00

Fingers crossed!

replies 100Jul 7, 2016 9:08 AM +00:00


replies 101Jul 7, 2016 9:10 AM +00:00

Yes, please!!

replies 102Jul 7, 2016 9:17 AM +00:00

I'm so excited, can't wait!

replies 103Jul 7, 2016 9:23 AM +00:00

They should either make a brilliantly-paced art movie or make Aliens Vs. Terminator. No middle ground.

replies 104Jul 7, 2016 9:27 AM +00:00
Hillary is probably one of the most trust-worthy politicians out there, other than Obama. She is CERTAINLY more honest and trustworthy and competent and capable than ANY Republican politician out there

Yeah, as trustworthy as a Bear trying to shit on a toilet. Man, you are so delusional.

replies 105Jul 8, 2016 10:23 AM +00:00

Alien vs Terminator would be cool, but done well. Like Terminator 1.

replies 106Jul 8, 2016 10:25 AM +00:00

Sorry, the stupid thread jumped to another thread.

replies 107Jul 8, 2016 10:30 AM +00:00

The Aliens 30th Anniversary panel at Comic Con will be Saturday afternoon (3:15 - 4:15 PM local time).

But for the fans who cannot be in Hall H that day, YouTube will be offering a live stream Q & A with the cast on it's new mobile platform. That is in addition to the Comic Con panel which will likely also be available online (one way or another) later that same day.

Either way, hopefully they will entertain at least one question about the possibility of the Blomkamp sequel happening.

To celebrate the 30th anniversary of “Aliens,” 20th Century Fox Home Entertainment is heading down to Comic Con in San Diego this week. And for fans who can’t make the trip in per…
replies 108Jul 21, 2016 9:02 AM +00:00

I was exciting until I saw it'll be from the director of Elysium and Chappie. Couldn't they have picked someone with class?

replies 109Jul 21, 2016 9:25 AM +00:00

I'm nervous about him too.

replies 110Jul 21, 2016 10:12 AM +00:00

Why would the terminators or Skynet hate the Aliens?

replies 111Jul 21, 2016 10:15 AM +00:00

We would learn...maybe it has something to do with The Company. But, the "vs." thing I'm not a fan of.

replies 112Jul 21, 2016 10:21 AM +00:00

The proposed alien 5 with the chappie director was cancelled in favour of ridley Scott taking back the directors chair in the alien franchise especially after the huge success of the Martian compared to the other director who was coming off of two expensive flops.

replies 113Jul 21, 2016 1:52 PM +00:00

What Sigourney said when asked about it at the Comic con panel is that the script is completed. And that both she and Blomkamp are committed to other projects right now, but that when they both are available, they plan to move forward with a fifth movie.

That's all she said - nothing about Hicks or Newt being part of the new story. And those actors were not asked anything about the possibility.

replies 114Jul 28, 2016 10:22 AM +00:00

Attached is a YouTube of the full Aliens 30th anniversary panel.

If you jump to the 35:15 mark you will see the only question regarding the Blomkamp movie.

Watch the Full Panel for "Aliens: 30th Anniversary" from the 2016 San Diego Comic Con with Watch All Comic Con 2016 Panels ?
replies 115Jul 29, 2016 10:27 AM +00:00

Michael Biehn was just interviewed in conjunction with the Aliens 30th anniversary. He also expresses confidence that Blomkamp's movie will be made, and that he will be in it.

ST: He’s working on an Alien-related project so what about that?
MB: Well, she’s doing the movie, Chappie, and he pitches her an idea for another movie in the Alien franchise, which I thought was dead and gone as she probably did too as well as Fox. He tweeted out some pictures of me, he said he’s going take the third and fourth film and act like they never happened and things blew up. It looked like it was all go and then Ridley Scott decided that he was going to do a second and third film in the Prometheus series, but Sigourney says they are still doing their project. I think it would be very embarrassing to Fox if they don’t give Sigourney the movie that she really wants to go out on. I don’t know when it’s going to happen but I know it’s going to happen and I know I’m going to be in it and there’s going to be a new Newt, she’s going to be about 26 or 27 and looks a lot like Jennifer Lawrence to me but I don’t know. Maybe there’ll be a passing of whatever and then the franchise can move on so they can make more money because that’s what it’s all about.

Since Ridley Scott announced his revamped plans for his Prometheus sequels, it is only actors that have been commenting publicly on the future of the Alien future. I suppose Weaver will also be a producer of the possible film so I put more stock in her word than Biehn's.

'Aliens' is celebrating its 30th anniversary. I caught up with Michael Biehn and his wife, Jennifer Blanc-Biehn, to talk about the iconic film, his future in the Alien franchise and their aspirations for their production company.
replies 116Aug 1, 2016 1:45 PM +00:00

Michael Fassbender revealed in a recent interview that Ridley Scott has already finished cutting Alien: Covenant. How annoying that it won't come out until August 4, 2017. I personally wouldn't mind Scott spending rest of his career making Prometheus sequels. One a year, thank you.

Fassy also gave a slight spoiler about the film:

"I am allowed to say I am playing two robots – Walter and David. I think what’s great about it is that Ridley has gone back to the original DNA of Alien, the horror element of that. But is also has the scope and the scale of Prometheus. Ridley has cut it already. He is a machine. He is an incredible human being and he was in such good form. He is such an imaginative and mischievous figure."

replies 117Nov 1, 2016 3:50 AM +00:00

Blomkamp feel that chances are now SLIM that his movie ever happens???

ALIEN 5 director Neil Blomkamp has stunned fans with terrible news about the sequel featuring Sigourney Weaver as Ripley.
replies 118Feb 28, 2017 5:43 PM +00:00

I get the feeling that Ridley Scott really doesn't like the possibility of Blomkamp rewriting the saga with an Alien 5. Now he says that the project never got very far, even though that contradicts what Sigourney has previously said. Probably because he put his foot down. Could he have been bothered by the fan excitement that possibility generated, which overshadowed his (at the time) Prometheus 2?

Series figurehead thinks the 'District 9' director's fan-pleasing 'Aliens' follow-up plans "will never see the light."
replies 119Apr 29, 2017 8:38 AM +00:00

Bummed , was psyched to see Ripley again

replies 120Apr 29, 2017 12:01 PM +00:00

Wait — isn't ALIEN: COVENANT the same as PROMETHEUS 2?

Coming out on May 12.

replies 121Apr 29, 2017 2:10 PM +00:00

Ridley Scott ruined this franchise with PROMETHEUS.

I love many of his films, but Ridley Scott honestly doesn't have a literary bone in his body. He can't tell the difference between a good script and a bad script — he's a brilliant visualist who just lucks out when Hollywood puts a good script into his hands.

Ridley Scott never wrote the original ALIEN script and the idea to use H.R. Giger's designs never came from Scott — it was producer David Giler's idea.

Scott is a boring storyteller left to his own devices or some of the hack screenwriters he has employed over the years. He wasn't ever the genius behind the franchise and he's totally out-of-touch with what audiences need and like (PROMETHEUS, ROBIN HOOD).

Fuck him, I'll take Blomkamp over Scott ANY DAY.

replies 122Apr 29, 2017 2:21 PM +00:00

I'm looking forward to Alien Covenant, but Ridley basically screwed over Neil Blomkamp, Sigourney Weaver, and Michael Biehn by not letting the fanboy and retconned Alien 5 go first. Now who knows if it will ever happen.

replies 123Apr 29, 2017 3:13 PM +00:00

Yes r121, they are the same. Last year though when Scott put his foot down and said he wanted the Blomkamp project to hold off until he got his 2nd film in the current series done, it was still being referred to as Prometheus 2.

replies 124Apr 30, 2017 1:22 AM +00:00

R30, Cameron's Aliens is the best of the series.

replies 125Apr 30, 2017 2:46 AM +00:00

Aliens is great, but nothing beats Alien in my book.

replies 126Apr 30, 2017 2:54 AM +00:00


According to Scott, "there was never a scenario" for Alien 5, "just an idea that evolved into a pitch of ten pages."
replies 127May 1, 2017 10:00 AM +00:00

r30, you're not missing much without ELYSIUM or CHAPPIE.

But you're missing a brain and taste buds if you don't like James Cameron's ALIENS!

replies 128May 1, 2017 10:58 AM +00:00

I really hate Ridley Scott.

He's turned into George Lucas — a guy with no understanding of what the fans liked about the original movies who makes boring, indulgent crap now.

Contrast them with George Miller, who can reboot his own franchise with originality, reinvention and an IMPROVED product (MAD MAX).

replies 129May 1, 2017 11:02 AM +00:00
Aliens is great, but nothing beats Alien in my book.

I like them both for different reasons. But i've seen Aliens more than Alien.

replies 130May 1, 2017 11:05 AM +00:00

I guess I'm the only one around here who actually liked Prometheus, but that's probably because I'm a huge Noomi Rapace fanboy. It's sad they replaced her with pug-faced spawn of Sam Waterston in the sequel (which looks kind of dull and pointless, judging from the trailer).

replies 131May 2, 2017 11:31 AM +00:00

Confirmation from Blomkamp himself that his idea for a 5th Alien movie has been killed. But out of respect for Ridley Scott he won't come right out and say that Scott demanded that shit be shut down.

I guess I don't understand why Ridley Scott is so much in control of this series rather than 20th Century Fox. I wonder if that remains the case even as it becomes apparent that Covenant isn't as much of a success as the studio had to have hoped.

It’s been an eventful two years since Neill Blomkamp’s last film, Chappie, hit theaters. He spent part of that time working to develop a fifth installment of the Alien franchise, only to have it o...
The Verge
replies 132Jun 4, 2017 2:44 AM +00:00

Prometheus was interesting but Covenant was horrible. I wish Blomkamp's movie had been made instead. What could have been!

replies 133Jun 4, 2017 5:29 AM +00:00

Covenant was a mess. I think it's disappointing box office killed the franchise for good. Sad. I love what I read about Blomkamp's vision.

replies 134Jun 11, 2017 4:01 PM +00:00

I bet the studio is kicking itself now.

replies 135Jun 11, 2017 4:04 PM +00:00

Whoa, Neil is hot. What was his version of Alien 5? Ellen is alive? How?

replies 136Jun 11, 2017 4:21 PM +00:00

What could have been!

James Cameron put it very delicately when he admitted he didn’t like Star Wars: The Force Awakens. But he has no such restraint when discussing the sequel to his Aliens, the polarizing Alien 3. It begins with the cruel discovery that Aliens’ hard-fought survivors—other than Sigourney Weaver’s Ripley—have all perished.
replies 137Jun 11, 2017 4:25 PM +00:00

Another person to counter Ridley Scott claiming that there never was a script.

I'm so disappointed with what he has been empowered to do to this mythology. Let someone else have their chance!

replies 138Jun 11, 2017 9:48 PM +00:00

I don't know why but the lead's face annoyed the shit out of me. Or maybe it was her haircut? Either way this movie was a waste of time. Why did they make the characters so stupid??!

replies 139Jun 12, 2017 3:18 AM +00:00

Covenant is the third-best Alien movie of all time and much better than Scott's PROMETHEUS.

But I really hate how Scott reduced the aliens to a lab experiment from mythical "gods" and an earthling android.

The wonder, adventure and evolution of alien worlds was reduced to religious mythology and familiar, human terms instead of the frightening, epic possibilities of science and nature.

At least Covenant had an exciting, competent plot.

r139 needs to share his feelings in our Alien: Covenant review thread:

All other priorities are rescinded. It's back to the ol' freezerinos!Maybe you haven't been keeping up on current events, but Alien: Covenant by Ridley Scott dropped last night, and critics don't got ...
the DataLounge
replies 140Jun 12, 2017 9:21 AM +00:00

Feels like Ridley Scott is desperate to regain or hold the interest in a certain core group of Alien fans. Fans like me that have been uninspired by what he's done since being given control over the series.

Ridley Scott really wants Ripley back in Aliens.
Screen Rant
replies 141Jul 10, 2017 10:22 PM +00:00

I had no desire to see the latest Alien. Scott has directed too many bad films and this one seemed like a sequel to Promwhatever a film I hated with a passion.

replies 142Jul 11, 2017 1:38 AM +00:00

R141 I think Ridley should let someone else have a shot at the franchise.

replies 143Jul 11, 2017 5:41 AM +00:00

"Alien" and "Aliens" should have been the end of it. But as long as something keep making money they keep making sequels, each one more crummy than the last. I detest endless sequels of a should have long been retired franchise.

I heard there's supposed to be another sequel in the "Toy Story" franchise. The third one was supposed to be the finale, but greedy film executives no doubt want to keep the money train going. I heard it's supposed to be a "love story." What are they going to do, have Buzz Lightyear and Jessie get married? I truly hope this "love story" doesn't happen.

replies 144Jul 11, 2017 6:16 AM +00:00
I heard there's supposed to be another sequel in the "Toy Story" franchise. The third one was supposed to be the finale, but greedy film executives no doubt want to keep the money train going. I heard it's supposed to be a "love story." What are they going to do, have Buzz Lightyear and Jessie get married? I truly hope this "love story" doesn't happen.

Why am i not surprised....

replies 145Jul 11, 2017 6:31 AM +00:00

Kinda agree with this assessment.

Ridley Scott and Neill Blomkamp offered two very different visions for the future of the franchise.
replies 146Jul 17, 2017 5:54 PM +00:00

With CGI magic they can make Weaver look the same age as the last one she was in.

Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 used make-up and other practical effects to de-age Kurt Russell during the sequel's opening scene.
replies 147Jul 17, 2017 6:14 PM +00:00

Thanks, r146.

That means you agree with everything I already wrote @ r140, because the Forbes article just repeats what I said.

But Di Placido at Forbes is wrong to claim:

It appears that Scott snatched his franchise back, and pushed it down a path of mediocrity. Which is fair enough, he created it, after all.

Ridley Scott DID NOT create the majority of ALIEN. He doesn't write ANY of his movies, nor does Scott have a literary knack. That's why half of his films suck.

ALIEN was written by Dan O'Bannon and Ronald Shusett. The xenomorph and set designs were conceived by the horrific visualist H.R. Giger, who previously worked with O'Bannon on Jodorowsky's version of DUNE in the '70s.

It was O'Bannon and Shusett who had the great story and script idea. It was Giger who had the visual inspiration. It was O'Bannon who first suggested using Giger on ALIEN and Fox producer David Giler who approved everything.

Ridley Scott was just the photographer, honestly. Scott was a fan of certain comics that provided the inspiration for the Nostromo design. But apart from that , Scott was just a photographer told to copy the futuristic realism of Star Wars.

It's outrageous that fans or Fox would have any executive deference for Ridley Scott, especially since half of Scott's films SUCK DOG TURDS.

If Ridley Scott ever demands anything, it's time to swat his nose with a rolled-up newspaper and rub his face in ROBIN HOOD for 3 hours.

replies 148Jul 18, 2017 10:49 AM +00:00

Fox at a crossroads after the disappointing performance of Covenant. How will they choose to proceed?

After ‘Alien: Covenant’ floundered at the box office, the future of the franchise is uncertain.
replies 149Jul 23, 2017 7:24 AM +00:00

Ellen Ripley. Try it. If it fails, this generation is only into comic shit.

replies 150Jul 23, 2017 8:16 AM +00:00
Yes but only if Ellen is in it

Well she do her famous "Phone Call from God" routine with the Queen Alien? Will she dance in the aisles with the drone aliens?

replies 151Jul 23, 2017 8:35 AM +00:00

The trouble with the "Alien" franchise is that it really shouldn't be a franchise. Once you've seen what the aliens can do, that's pretty much it. The first one was a great Gothic thriller set in a spaceship, and was so successful it demanded a sequel: the sequel surprised everyone by being terrific (mostly because it did not repeated the formula and was this time an army flick). But that's as far as it should have gone. Every sequel since then has just been the same thing as the first one, only vastly not as good.

The aliens are not like characters you care to see again. They're just giant scary penis-like bugs. You can't extend their characters or bring them in new directions.

replies 152Jul 23, 2017 8:38 AM +00:00

I disagree.

Talented authors can make 1,000 excellent shows out of a simple premise and we WANT to see the same things happen in sequels to a sensational extent.

David Giler, the original producer for ALIEN, had a brilliant idea for a sequel: exploring the homeward of the aliens for the first time -- assuming they evolved naturally among toxic elements and unheard-of environmental dangers.

Ridley Scott destroyed that possibility and all the mind-blowing otherness that made the aliens and outer space so scary. He reduced the aliens to a human lab experiment gone wrong with the help of a human android invention. The infinite possibilities and unpredictable dangers became familiar and banal. Explicable.

So I wish I could watch David Giler's Alien Homeworld movie.

That said, COVENANT was better than PROMETHEUS. At least it had an intriguing plot and more action. Some great imagery, too. I wouldn't mind watching more Ridley Scott aliens, but they don't have the potential to be awesome.

replies 153Dec 6, 2017 10:09 PM +00:00