Taylor Swift Shattered Beyoncé’s Streaming Record In Only A Matter Of Hours

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Remember the 80s when it was Madonna vs Whitney ?

[quote]Remember the 80s when it was Madonna vs Whitney?

No.

Jabba, it was never Madonna vs Janet. Janet was on the level of Pebbles or Karyn White.

Taylor’s album is not getting good reviews

Janet inspired Karyn and Pebbles. Whitney vs Madonna in the ‘80s was not a thing. Sorry to burst your bubble, R4 fag.

Oh look, homophobe Jabba is in the house. Dance, gorilla, dance!

R5 It doesn't matter what the reviews are - it's breaking all kinds of records.

It's breaking more records than Janet's fat ass broke chairs.

The Taylor era appears to be ending. Savage reviews.

Did somebody say Janet?

You think Zoomers read reviews ?

Yeah, in the end, the reviews won’t matter. This thing is already doing monster streaming numbers.

R11 Yikes - that photo of Janet! Thoughts and prayers for Janet Jackson.

Joe Alwyn is laughing his ass off: Taylor’s got a flop!

Her stans are pathetic

Taylor has reached 'Madonna 1990'. Ubiquitous from constant product.

Cringeworthy

The decline begins

Swift has never matured as a writer. Same old grievance drivel. She’s 34 yrs old and writes like a teenager. I think her parents are overly involved in her career.

‘Thriller’ was also initially panned as I recall.

I so need to own this in the fourteen different physical formats Tay Tay has made available to us Swifties!

R15 It’s not going to flop.

But this is probably her peak.

She’s almost 35.

She needs to diversify. Can she rap?

Christ, that photo of Janet at R11. She looks like Koko. Does she know sign language?

It’s Baja Fresh!

Her album is step down in quality. Beyonce's last good album was Lemonade. The critics are too scared to be honest about Beyonce's last two albums. We all know why

I'm an old fart I listen to it on You Tube

Her costumes always look like the Ice Capades

Beautiful gowns

Such is the power of Diabla Blanca. Alas, her new album is getting dragged for lack of artistry and is a big step towards irrelevance. She's officially a hack.

At the very least it’s a good thing that Taylor bested that talentless slag for a record that means little to nothing to me, and most other people as well.

She should have taken the year off. The new double album so soon makes her look greedy and clueless. I’m actually glad it’s getting bad reviews because I am sick of her.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Taylor Swift is a cultural phenomenon. Some sort of Dolly Parton and Michael Jackson mash-up.

[quote]Janet was on the level of Pebbles or Karyn White.

LOL

That was fun shade.

R35, minus being likable or talented.

R33 Exactly, she should have just finished her tour and then stayed out of the spotlight for a bit. Now if she steps away it's on a low note.

It's so funny how when the leaks began people were saying it was AI because it was so stupid only for it to be true.

Fuck I admire her work ethic. Like Prince in his prime (or Rihanna her first decade) for the amount of musical work, it's breathtaking actually. But that being said she still is the usual birthday cake batter flavoring come to life in musical form, and I'm salivating at the possibility we've entered Zinc Alloy territory artistry wise so it seems to be a win all around no matter what.

[quote]That was fun shade.

And wholly inaccurate.

New records for sales, more millions for her, even more sales for her.

The Littles of this world don’t care. We hate run away success. We hate those that get to the top. Fuck success. Fuck those record sales. Elitist Frau.

The Littles those of us that have done so little in life hate her. I give her at most another 10-12 years on top. Then she will start to sink. By the time she is 78 no one will be buying her new records.

A fad that will,pass

The critics cannot like a new album by Whitey Swift while Queen Flopyonce’s sales are cratering.

Individuals like Taylor whose emotional development is arrested always have the most entertaining spinouts and meltdowns! When that cognitive dissonance collapses they just lose their shit! I can't wait! I apply this also to her dum-dum fans.

It will sell big the first week

And then, watch it fall!

She’s overexposed, and will have a comeback somewhere in her early forties, after she has an IVF kid or two.

Remember, Mariah peaked at the same age with ‘Mimi’ (after the industry wrote her off post-Glitter), and then her sales plummeted.

Taylor has reached an age where she won’t shine as brightly as Dua Lipa or Olivia Rodrigo.

She’s too old for girls and too immature for (most) women now.

R44

Most? How did you come up with most?

53% of Americans identify as Swift fans. And besides gay men and young children most of her fans are female.

I love hearing from the DL experts on woman and young girls

R45, being a Swift fan is not a political platform. It’s a temporary phase and most women over the age of 35 go to her concerts as chaperones, not fans.

Gay men who love her need to get their testosterone levels checked out. It’s a medical fact published in the New England Journal of Medicine.

The backlash is coming for Ms. Swift….

Are there actual gay men that like her? I’ve never met one. Maybe like twenty year old white suburban twinks, but other than that? Nah.

R48

As I have said at least once , until I got to DL , I had no idea any men were her fans or cared all that much about her. Then upon DL arrival I was hit with a flood of Taylor Swift threads one after another after another after fucking another they just never fucking stop.

This thread being a prime example. And I expect more soon.

R45 Where are the gay men?

Where are the gay men part 2?

Looks like young white women to me and nothing beyond that.

R48 No. she doesn’t have a gay audience / following. Sure I’m sure there’s a few gays who like her. But I’ll bet you they’re either in circles of white women who love TS or are gay men with daughters who love TS.

Does Beyonce have a gay following ?

Well as of 2023 survey of the 53% of Americans that consider themselves Swift fans only 52% are woman. We can safely assume that at least some of the remaining 48% are straight .

And what age group of swifties is growing very fast ? The Senior Swifties

What is a Gaylor anyway? Asking for a friend.

A huge one, yes.

R53 Yes.

You can see a huge difference between a Beyonce audience and a Taylor Swift audience.

Taylor only has white girls and their dads and boyfriends.

Beyonce has everyone.

R52, Taylor Swift’s following is 50% gay men.

Why is having a mainly white audience a bad thing?

R54 Ridiculous survey. 181 million Americans are not Taylor Swift fans.

Her last album sold ALMOST 3 million album equivalents.

Let’s not be silly.

I don't hate her nor love her but you gotta give it to her. Shattering streaming records left and right - here in the US , UK ,and everywhere else. I listened to some of the new songs and thought they are not radio-friendly compared with her other hits. But I could see their appeal especially to her fans.

75% of swift fans are white based on surveys. That means 25% are not white.

R59

It’s a survey. It’s not my survey. Now if I am asked if I am a Taylor Swift fan I would say yes. I know one of her songs and I have never bought one of her records. Being a fan when asked is not the same as saying I bought someone’s album or attended a concert.

She is the biggest music star in the world today. 53% of Americans considering themselves fans when asked is not a stretch at all..

I'm not a fan but Taylor Swift is clearly in a category of her own. She may make misteps or even flops which all creative people do. It's part of the growth process. Otherwise they become stagnant. But no one comes even close to her level of success and fan adoration. Beyonce is simply not at the same level nor has she ever been. That "Single Ladies" era was good for her but fleeting. Still stomping around with them big legs whipping her hair around in a leotard is tough to watch after all these years.

From a business perspective, hell even an artistic one, releasing this album was a bad move. From where she is now the only place she has to go is down. No need to accelerate your descension with another bloated album barely a year after the last one, Taylor.

R58 It’s not but it’s why the comparisons to Madonna and Michael Jackson. She’s NOT as big as they were for these exact reasons.

And someone was talking about how she’s surpassed Madonna and Michael and etc.

Not really. The rules have changed.

If Madonna and Michael’s album tracks were allowed to chart and re-charts on Billboard in the 80s and 90s, she would be playing catch up.

She can have these records because the rules changed to allow old MJ songs to chart when he died lol.

Somebody linked some gay boy's video where he was having a hissy fit that most of the songs were about Matt Healy instead of Joe Alwyn so she does have a gay audience.

R66 by the sound of it she has an audience of saddos who need to get out more.

My local news sent reporters out into a local shopping center and asked people what they thought of Taylor's new album. They all loved it. They were also all white, teen girls and 20-something females, teen gay boys and 20-something gay men. With the exception of one white woman in her 40s who was so excited about the album, and said she was a fan because of her teen son.

Overexposed phase of her career starts NOW

Don't these super mega stars have enough money to buy their success and sustain it? This kind of desperation to be no. 1 is kind of pathetic. Both Tay and Bey should take long, long vacations.

Bland music for basic people.

Does she ever write songs about other topics besides her failed relationships?

R47 = J.Lo

A shoe in for Album of the Year.

I’m just surprised that after all those NYT articles, Beyoncé’s album has just disappeared.

R65, if MTV hadn’t been invented, or the CD and cassette tape weren’t available, they wouldn’t have sold either. Every generation benefits from something the previous one didn’t have access to.

Every one of her albums is in the top 10 on Amazon and iTunes.

[quote] I’m just surprised that after all those NYT articles, Beyoncé’s album has just disappeared.

What?! She’s at the top of charts breaking records. Where are you posting from, gramps?

Albums don’t have longevity any more. It’s all about the first three weeks of sales and then it’s over.

The music industry is not what it used to be.

R70

I am so with you . These people like Swift who always try to be number one disgust me. On DL we are happy to not be number one. Or number two. And three is still fucking elitist. Nothing wrong with 297th

number one is for losers.

I was never asked to participate in this national poll.

R81

Shocking. As someone who has worked with national survey people I am absolutely shocked they missed you on this survey. I mean what are the chances?

Do you think this missing you was a gay thing? I’d hope more an innocent error.

R75 From where? It’s still #1 on Billboard.

I hear she has a new book a bio coming out soon

“Still Number One: The Taylor Swift Story by Taylor Swift ”

“Love to all my young girl and gay boy fans”

That may or not be true. But I see a #1 on the best seller list if it is,

[quote]A shoe in for Album of the Year.

Might as well give Taylor a collection of Grammys now, since she will win them all next February.

And then Jay-Z will make a very 'kind statement' about why his wife didn't receive any for her country album.

Oh my God people clicked on a mouse! If that many people got off their fat asses and went to a record store and bought the album I'd be impressed.

R86 Who the hell does that any more ?

[quote]Janet was on the level of Pebbles or Karyn White.

Pebbles could cut a bitch.

I've never known any gay men who are TS fans.

R89

Well then maybe you know the answer to this

Where does the popular term Gaylor come from? What exactly does it mean?

R90 Delusional fans of Taylor (mostly young "queer" girls) who think Taylor is gay and sending them secret messages though her music about how gay she is. The name has nothing to do with gay fans.

I don't know any gay guys who are Taylor fans and I know some really trashy gays, too! Not even they are into her.

R91

Thank you I had no idea. But I knew if there were men who knew everything about Taylor I’d find them on DL

I only made it through five songs before I had to switch to Iron Maiden.

Swift is sitting on top of the charts with her new album (according to news releases). She has also released 14 different formats of her new album (including different colored vinyl records, Target exclusives, etc) which her fans are buying (yes, they're buying every single format) which has pushed her sales to #1.

Beyawnce who?

Senator Swift and her NFL HOF husband

I heard a few songs from the album on XM while flipping around. It was the audio equivalent of overdosing on Ambien. The songs were tuneless slogs of her talk-singing over boring synths. Where are the hooks? Where is the melody?

Will people be listening to her music in 20 years? (If civilization hasn't ended by then)

She is vanilla. A bland concoction of saying the right thing and acting the perpetual victim at the hands of ex boyfriends, ex producers, Kanye and Kim.

Heaven forbid Little Miss Frau should express any thoughts beyond the PR soundbytes fed to her.

She has been a major star for just about 20 years now? Sure the young girls , who are the young girls who are listening today, will be listening then.

Take this from someone who was listening to Glenn Miller just a few hours go,

This is a pretty good takedown...

I know gays who are into TS. One of them thinks she's the greatest songwriter of all time. (I'm not kidding.)

Taylor can write paragraphs. Beyonce can't even write a complete sentence.

I would rather listen to Taylor Swift than Billie Eilish

Oh great, another Trump thread

Q- Mom, can I go to DL and talk about Taylor Swift with all those boys?

A- Not until you are 13 dear

Give me Madonna, Gaga, or Rihanna for pop divas.

At least they're interesting and have personalities.

I'm surprised at all this talk about gays not following Taylor Swift. As far as I can tell, the Zoomer Gays and Millennial Gays are big fans of her.

TS seems like a very good person, smart, using her great fame wisely (on the right side of the political decide urging young people to vote). But her music? I’m clueless- ditto Beyoncé who seems like a product controlled by her husband- she’s a showgirl more or less with an enormous production engine around her.

[quote] And someone was talking about how she’s surpassed Madonna and Michael and etc.

Right now, she's as big as Madonna was in 1987. She's nowhere near MJ territory. She doesn't have any album that sold anywhere near what Thriller, Bad or Dangerous sold.

Who cares about how diverse Beyonce's concerts are? The fact is, all the hype in the world cannot prevent her albums from taking big dives on the charts after the first couple of weeks. Taylor oversells Beyonce without even trying.

[QUOTE]Who cares about how diverse Beyonce's concerts are?

Because it proves that her appeal reaches beyond solely or mostly black audiences, and that she is not just the R&B diva that many people paint her as, same as Janet and Whitney before her.

I'd hate to be the household staff at the home of Beyonce and Jay Z this week. Especially if I had Taylor's new album in my ear buds while scrubbing the floors.

[quote] I'd hate to be the household staff at the home of Beyonce and Jay Z this week.

Beyonce to Blue Ivy--"What's Taylor Swift doing on your Spotify when I said NO TAYLOR SWIFT, EVER!!!!!!"

[quote] I'm surprised at all this talk about gays not following Taylor Swift

Don't forget datalounge are populated with eldergays.

There are 31 new tracks so of course the streaming numbers are high. She has also released FIVE different versions of the album for her fans to buy on vinyl so her debut sales should be divided by five too.

Adele still holds the US debut record. 3m with just one version of 25.

Metacritic Scores

Beyonce, Cowboy Carter - 92

Taylor, Tortured Poets - 77

[quote]There are 31 new tracks so of course the streaming numbers are high. She has also released FIVE different versions of the album for her fans to buy on vinyl so her debut sales should be divided by five too.

Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

R117

So if I go to the Ford dealer and buy 5 new mustangs all in different colors in your world I have only bought one car?

The fucking dealer certainly thinks they sold 5

[quote] Oh my God people clicked on a mouse! If that many people got off their fat asses and went to a record store and bought the album I'd be impressed.

[quote] [R86] Who the hell does that any more ?

That's the point Einstein, in the good old days people had to make an effort for something to become a hit or break records. Clicking on a mouse ain't it.

R121

And there were days when there were no cars or airplanes and people rode horses or walked. Just as we once had no internet so that people could buy things easily. Then things changed.

If I buy those mustangs over the Internet I have still bought 5 new cars. Some people will go way far trying to make up shit to prove a point they can’t otherwise make.

Effort is over rated results are what you want

R120 the point being made is that Beyoncé’s album did very very good on the streaming market with only one version. Taylor would have beat Beyoncé’s numbers regardless, but insisted on her multiple versions of the same album trick she always does. Plus her album was long as hell bumping on streaming numbers.

Good for both women to produce decent albums this year, but Taylor is clearly desperate to dominate.

R123

Just like the 1927 NY Yankees. Desperate to dominate. Unlike the Red Socks who were happy not to dominate?

You going to play why not strive for number one (I realize that makes me sound old)

FYI, Taylor's album is currently getting ~144 million streams a day on Spotify. Beyonce's is only getting 10 million. That's impressive even when you take into account the different editions of Taylor's album.

R117 So if I buy five pairs of the same style shoes in five different colors from the same shoe store, they see that as only selling one pair of shoes ? Whether I buy on-line or in-store ? Seriously ?

Just can't get with the Beyonce shtick. But happy as a clam for those who do. I don't see those two as competitors. Different core audiences, I would imagine.

Beyonce's real hair is nearly waist-length and beautiful!

R128, I don't know why she bothers with wigs, her real hair looks much better

Wigs are versatile and protect you real hair.

R117

Divided by 5 the new math :-)

A decent try but comes off as desperate without a lot of thought behind it.. Try harder next time.

Didn't Shania Twain do this with her earlier albums? One had a more distinct pop sound vs. a country beat.

All of Shania's albums were pop country.

[QUOTE] Wigs are versatile and protect you real hair.

Nope. They starve the hair of oxygen and make it more likely to fall out, in the same way ugly acrylic nails starve the real nail.

^If you wear them all the time, maybe. However, people wear wigs and extensions and braids as a way of protecting their hair. If you take care of your real hair, the wig will protect it.

I want to own a wig shop outside the studios where they film TV court shows. I'd make a fortune selling janky burgundy wigs.

I'm no Swift fan but she's kicking Benoumde's ass when it comes to numbers.

R72

she sings songs about lesbian affairs

R72 and her grandma

R72 and also revenge murder

R72 how to move on maturely (maybe she should study this one more…)

I can't fault her songs except that none of them evoke any emotion in me whatsoever. Well constructed lemon meringue pies without the lemon. Or pie.

R134 That’s not true at all.

Hair extensions are a better analogy to nail acrylics.

Not a wig.

I've been ripping Taylor to shreds in many of these threads, but that's a damn good song at R139.

[QUOTE] However, people wear wigs and extensions and braids as a way of protecting their hair.

Extensions destroy the real hair because they have to be welded on. You really are ignorant, aren't you?

If you care about this, you should be doing your geometry homework.

r144 the bridge always gets me

Obviously these are the two greatest musical geniuses since Mozart and Beethoven. We are truly blessed to be living in such times.

Is she the best poet in modern music since Leonard Cohen?

[quote]Extensions destroy the real hair because they have to be welded on. You really are ignorant, aren't you?

Speaking of ignorant, your wig/nail analogy is the stupidest thing I’ve ever read.

R150, you're obviously challenged in the hair department and reliant on hair extensions yourself. Just know that they will weaken what's left of your real hair, not 'protect' it. Dumbass frau.

R151, don't be mad because your stupid ass hair/nail analogy bombed and blew up in your ugly face. It was dumb. We all read it. Just woosah and move on. The rest of us have.

R152 got her weave twisted. Mad as a wasp.

R153, no dear, but keep nursing that wounded pride.

This is surprising despite reading on DL that her career had peaked and was falling she seems to continue to set sales records.passing this one and that one.

An interesting way to see your career your career come to a fail continue to set new sales records.

That girl has the golden touch

HA! It looks like all the skin bleaching didn't help her trying to steal the white womanz fans from Gaylor away!

R156 = Following the KKK accounts on Reddit

It’s hard to contain the excitement just hearing thatTravis has just signed a two year extension in KC. Two more years of the Travis an Taylor.Show

They can marry and then both retire in time to an estate they name —-The Greatest Ever.

If he signed for 2 more years he better put down the beer and start training. I can't see their romance lasting past summer but he definitely got his money's worth, his brother and him will get big money for their podcast which benefited from her fans listening to it.

Jason Kelce is joining the ESPN weekly “Monday Night Football” pregame show

R159

Spring marriage and a brand new fucking album talking about their engagement and coming marriage that will make untold millions and break all swift records..

r161 Interesting take on it, we shall see

[QUOTE] An interesting way to see your career your career come to a fail continue to set new sales records.

Proof that most Capitaylist stans are illiterate.