This Just In: UK Ban on Smoking

So what will untalented stage, tv and movie directors do when they can’t think of any business for their actors besides smoking?

Will movies with smoking become like porn?

The agenda against smoking has to do more with the intellectual, mood and weight loss benefits of it than alleged deaths. These same people encourage obesity and fast food and environmental chemicals. Someone who has a cigarette in their house or backyard is no one’s business. Smokers are no longer everywhere, in fact they hide under a rock to enjoy one.

What will Princess Kate do to pass her days?

[quote]The agenda against smoking has to do more with the intellectual, mood and weight loss benefits of it than alleged deaths.

No. Smoking is one of the leading causes of lung cancer. Second-hand smoking also causes needless damage. Banning it is nothing but good news for the society.

It's really staggering how much smoking has changed since the blanket bans on indoor smoking started in the 90's. They're toxic little fuckers, those ciggies. So many ailments caused by that one source.

R4 R5 smokers do not bother you at all, and you never even encounter them anymore. I’m sure you have no issue with fast food and alcohol and all the problems that it causes health wise. Let’s not forget all the mental illness and obesity caused by smoking copious amounts of pot. People who rail against cigarettes are usually big losers.

This is Orwellian bullshit. This is what happens when Fraus take over the world, Some weird delusion that everyone should live forever.

[quote] So what will untalented stage, tv and movie directors do when they can’t think of any business for their actors besides smoking?

We already solved this! Substitute it with drinking!

Nice projection there, R5. Are you denying that ciggies are toxic little fuckers? I said that and observed how much things have changed. You added everything else.

Brits have always been dependent upon the state, thus they live under a Nanny State which makes all their decisions.

[quote] Are you denying that ciggies are toxic little fuckers?

Ciggies? Are you a three-year-old? Speak like an adult.

Fuck off, R11. Your posting history is a sewer, by the way.

And to think I spent my life fighting on behalf of such wussies.

R2

It’s complete and total bullshit to say that the people who are pushing a smoking ban are the same people pushing for fast food and pro environmental chemicals. That makes you sound like a fucking QAnon looney making up nonsense..

And there is only one reason smokers are hiding under a rock in their own back yard today , the govt and society has hounded and enforced them into hiding.

There are few groups more hated than cigarettes smokers.

But in the US no one in the federal govt had ever suggested a ban. The PHS has always been anti ban. Mostly as unworkable or unneeded.

Time will tell how this UK ban goes. How will smokers adjust? No one gives a fuck.

Kind of sad. What's a pale, skinny, horse-hung scally supposed to do after buggery? Lord knows nobody wants to listen to him. Let him have a smoke then be on his way.

The UL continues to be the Florida of Europe.

The UK without cigs? Dot Cotton must be spinning in the grave.

R10

So you don’t live in the US where govts all the past govts have managed to govern just about every part of your life, and everything you do during a normal year.

From what you eat and drink, the type of porn you can watch, your working conditions, the clothes you wear, the age of those you can fuck, the taxes you pay, the safety equipment in the cars you buy, the speed limit you can drive, and just about everything else in your life.

People are not really cowboys riding the west anymore just as they never were cowboys to begin with..

Why can’t we just make them 30 dollars a pack?

Won’t people just take Eurostar over to Paris and buy them? Or ask friends to buy up cartons while on holiday?

Who wants to invest in my new tobacco smuggling business? I hear there are some isolated coves in Cornwall waiting to be used.

R19

It’s getting close to that now.

Right at $30 a 20 pack in Australia. And right at $1.27 a 20 pack in Vietnam, the cheapest in the world.

Hardcore NVA

It was 25 cents a pack of 20 no one ever asked for an ID when I first started.

"This is Orwellian bullshit. This is what happens when Fraus take over the world, Some weird delusion that everyone should live forever."

You don't know what Orwellian means.

And it seems weird that the US conservatives who complain about stuff like this want to ban porn, library books, and TikTok. So, if we're having a conversation about banning things we don't like....

It’s Communist bullshit.

I don't care if people smoke.

r24 doesn't know what "communist" means

I knew they'd go after the fags..

The problem with smoking, unlike eating and drinking (unless someone drives drunk) is that it can negatively affect others in the same air space, without permission. Second hand smoke is a real problem. Banning it in public areas, both indoors and out, makes sense.

What people do in the privacy of their own homes is their business.

R28

Not if they have small children with developing lungs in that home. Then it’s not their private business. Those are the kids most at risk from second hand smoke those that live in a house with adult smokers..

Child abuse is a crime.

R22 They’re 9 dollars by me and I’ve seen cheap ones closer to 5 or 6.

I remember when they gave out free small packs on the airplane to anyone that wanted a pack. And you could light up as soon as the plane took off.

It’s no surprise that flight attendants lead the charge for non smoking on airplanes.

[quote] The problem with smoking, unlike eating and drinking (unless someone drives drunk) is that it can negatively affect others in the same air space, without permission. Second hand smoke is a real problem. Banning it in public areas, both indoors and out, makes sense.

Second hand outdoors smoke from a tiny little cigarette? You go and do a little bit of research on that and let me know what you turn up.

If you were being proportional about outdoor particles you’d be going after diesel trucks btw, and any freeway or highway that encourages the use of diesel engines. Proportionality is what is always important in these dealings. Banning smoking indoors, great! Outdoors, not so much, except as a fire hazard.

Wouldn't it be nice if they were going to ban something that they came up with alternatives first. I quit smoking 17 years ago and still want a cigarette at least 5x's a day. It was the only think I had to use for stress. I have always lives with excessive stress which all the alternatives do not help. If they weren't so expensive I would have gone back to it numerous times. I think most people use it for stress. Too bad they haven't tried to find an alternative.

R33

I think you will find that billions of dollars are spent on reducing stress and ways to reduce stress.

Can't they just development tobacco that is more quickly fatal?

Win-Win for all of us!

[quote] doesn't know what "communist" means

Yes, I do, retard. My family fled it.

I thought it had only passed the first round in Parliament but wasn't yet in effect.

[quote] The problem with smoking, unlike eating and drinking (unless someone drives drunk) is that it can negatively affect others in the same air space, without permission.

Not really. The research on that has been dubious at best. This is a slippery slope.

I think cigarettes will eventually go away altogether in future generations

R35

Substitute HIV for Tobacco and you will sound exactly like a lot of other people in the world.

Up next, nicotine gummies sweep UK!

quote] The PHS has always been anti ban

R14, Please identify this organization for ignorant me.

Thank you.

The United States Public Health Service of which CDC and NIH etc etc etc are a part of.

This is exactly what Joe Biden and the democrats want to do! We still don’t even know where Obama is from and January 6 was a setup.

New Zealand tried to do this a couple of years ago and then repealed the law earlier this year.

Is vaping next?

[quote]I thought it had only passed the first round in Parliament but wasn't yet in effect..

Parliament. That's my brand!

OMG. I hope this doesn’t give Newsom ideas. He’s a little too in-your-face with all his “I know what’s best for you” bans.

r46 Kindof

[quote] The government has already announced plans to ban disposable vapes in England as soon as April 2025, and hopes to extend this ban across the UK as well.

[quote] The contents, flavours and packaging of nicotine vapes will also be restricted in order to make them less attractive to children. A new tax on vaping will be introduced from October 2026.

They banned smoking on the acreage I work. But the smokers found all the nooks and crannies where the cameras can't see- and those are littered with butts.

I hope R35 develops a slow moving and painful cancer. 🔮

[quote]But the smokers found all the nooks and crannies where the cameras can't see- and those are littered with butts.

Odd, smokers are usually so conscientious about their impact on the people and environment around them.

[quote]People are not really cowboys riding the west anymore just as they never were cowboys to begin with..

Are you denying the existence of cowboys? haha

R52 please fuck off and get back to posting your inane comments from the smartphone made by modern day child slave labor and eating your fast food that pollutes the environment & guarantees the workers need welfare to survive. What’s that knock at the door? It’s probably your Amazon package…

Long live menthols! 🇺🇸

They should just make them more expensive. People do things that are bad for their health, all the time. I don't think that hard bans have any good influence there. It just creates a crime that now has to be prosecuted.

R56, they’re expensive enough.

R56

You are correct and higher price is one of the reasons so many addicts have quit smoking. And most have quit according to the drop in % of smokers in the US anyway

25 cents a pack when I started

$10 a pack today.

The US is not considering a ban on sales for regular cigs. Menthol ban was on now off at least until after the election,

I was just in London last week and I did notice much more smoking in public than we are used to in the states. What’s more noticeable from my last visit is the increase in vaping. A lot of young people (mostly males) have taken it up.

They still can’t compare with Italians, they’re hardcore.

Outdoor smoking goes up as indoor smoking goes down. If you can no longer smoke in your apt or hotel room you will go outside to smoke.

Even where smoking rates have dropped considerably outdoor smoking may rise.

[quote] The Biden administration has once again pushed back its plans to ban menthol cigarettes amid pressure from critics, including some civil rights leaders, who said it would unfairly target Black smokers.

Let them all die of cancer. Such moral integrity. That's our Joe.

R61

Only an idiot would support doing that ban right before the election. Do you support doing that ban right before an election?

I like how there's one person in this thread (WWing themselves) trying desperately to refute over 60 years of research and knowledge that smoking is bad for you! The 1962 RCP report on the harmful effects of tobacco was pretty conclusive, only a desperate tobacco company shill like R2 (and all the other posts) would suggest otherwise!

Maybe they can undo their ban on toothpaste soon

R63

Professionals who work supporting tobacco interests don’t hang out plying their trade on DL. That person you are referencing is just a garden variety addict.

And the one thing addicts, drugs, sex, or booze addicts have in common is down playing their risks and defending their high risk behavior. And making fun of the prudes .

Tobacco addicts, high risk sex addicts, the chronic drunks and drinkers it’s all pretty much the same.

R36, how sophisticated you are!

And a liar, too!

This makes me recall a comment I read once about Daniel Radcliffe smoking so much that even his fellow Harry Potter castmates were concerned.

[quote]Under the new law, each year the legal age for cigarette sales - currently 18 - will increase by one year. It means that people born in or after 2009 will never be able to legally buy cigarettes. The law will not affect those who are already allowed to buy cigarettes.

Did none of you read this part?

Wait for the age-based discrimination human rights complaint.

R68

Yes discussed before. Despite being late to the discussion and not reading previous comments your input is welcome.