Bill Maher: Actors who won’t work with Woody Allen are pussies

Sorry but wanting your sexual partner to dress like a child is creepy. Woody Allen is a creep. Bill Maher is a washed up creep.

And I don’t even believe the allegations against Woody regarding Dylan.

I feel so much better when they write pu**ies. The use of the two s’s would make it obscene, but with asterisks—no problem.

These three Scholars argue he is innocent. What is your opinion?

Maybe they won't work with him because he only pays scale, and his last good movie was 11 years ago (Blue Jasmine).

In a credibility contest between Woody & Mia, I’ll always be on Woody’s side.

Bill Maher is obsessed with "pussies" because it's been an eternity since he's been allowed near one.

Woody Allen was easily disposed of by his actors because Woody Allen doesn’t interact with his actors. At all. This is well known. He doesn’t direct. He sits there in the dark and watches you, and if you don’t give his words the life he wants, he replaces you (Michael Keaton, Elaine Stritch.) if you win an Oscar for his work, he will not be in the audience applauding. Some actors probably consider it a privilege to be trusted like that, but most actors are needy and require reinforcement.

Compare him to someone like Yorgos Lanthimos whose actors worship him:

“I obviously have full-blown, very intense trust in him,” she said, “and as an actor, it’s the best feeling ever, because it’s so rare that you feel like whatever you do, you’re protected by your director.”

Woody Allen has gotten fourteen actors Oscar nominations. How many of them would say the above about him?

Unless he wants to fuck them, R7. Many an actress in an Allen film knew sex with Allen was part of the job. It’s like that with most directors, or was.

R8, quit making up shit.

Allen is gross even without the Dylan allegations being true. That whole family is a mess. Mia is a nut. The kids - the ones still living - basket cases.

Allen was obsessed to an unhealthy level with Dylan, even if nothing sexual happened. What he did with left-side-of the-bell-curve Soon-Yi was beyond the pale, even if he wasn't a blood father. He was an authority figure in her life. Leaving the pics of her out so that Mia could find them - what kind of sick, twisted bullshit is that? Even if she is a nut and they hated each other. "The heart wants what the heart wants" was utter bullshit. He had to stay by her side after everything came out so he could use 'love' as a defense in the court of public opinion.

Even allowing for separating the artist from the art, Allen hasn't done anything novel in 40 years. Just another geriatric film maker that coasted by on his reputation and his fan base for far too long.

R9 = very naive

Bill Maher wants all actors to work with serial rapists like Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, Woody Allen, Roman Polanski, etc.

Woody Allen is 88 fucking years old. Why is there even a conversation of whether or not people should work for him anyway?

Yeah, he had a good run, but it's over.

R10 couldn’t have said it better myself. I posted the first response and I maintain that the allegations about him regarding Dylan are false. I have faith in the findings of the investigation.

However, his behavior outside those allegations were sickening. He deserves to be shunned the rest of his life.

He married his adopted daughter Soon Yi for fucks sake. On what planet is that considered appropriate behavior? In his film, Manhattan, his character was dating a 16 year old played by Mariel Hemingway. I recall watching that back in 1979 and being repulsed. I for one do believe the allegations with his daughter Dylan.

NOT his adopted daughter.

It is basically the same thing. She was Mia Farrow's adopted daughter, and he was her father figure for years. Who knows what went down in that home when he was alone with her?

[quote]Katie challenged him, saying there was "some pretty damning" evidence, including Allen's desire for his girlfriends to "dress up in little anklets and Mary Janes and baby doll dresses."

I've never heard this. Anyone know where this information came from?

Bill Maher seems to twist himself into a pretzel to defend people he knows personally .

[quote] Yeah, he had a good run, but it's over.

Woody, or Bill Maher?

the answer: BOTH.

Bill's idol was Hugh Hefner. No surprise he doesn't believe Dylan.

[quote] She was Mia Farrow's adopted daughter, and he was her father figure for years. Who knows what went down in that home when he was alone with her?

That last question is not really based on anything whatsoever, is it?

Sure, it is a unknown rhetorical question. But how does that relationship go from where he is the adult father figure to a sexual relationship? There is no reasonable comfortable one. He made some sexual advance to her at some point and she complied.

He wasn't her father figure. Mia and Woody never even lived together. It was an odd relationship in a number of ways, and one of them was that her life as the mother of several adopted children was separate from her life with Woody. In fact, he started taking Soon-Yi to Knicks games at the request of Mia, because she wanted him to spend more time with her kids.

Be careful what you wish for...

[quote]He wasn't her father figure.

But she was his long-time girlfriend's teenage daughter and his children's sister. Taboos all over the place.

Mia is AT LEAST as creepy as Woody.

If this is what it takes to grow a pussy that can get moist and stay as tight as my recent facelift, count me in!!!!

I’m ready for my close-up, Mr. Child Abuser.

I'd love to read some honest memoirs from Mia's brood of children.

Woody can be awful - and Mia can also be awful. Both can be true.

Composer André Previn, who just died a few years ago, was Mia's ex-husband and Soon-Yi's adoptive father.

Woody was just her mom's boyfriend.

He didn't even live with them, as someone else pointed out.

And they weren't married. Yeah, they didn't live together. They both had access to each other's place and when MIa went to his, she discovered on the mantle a series of nude Polaroids of Soon-Yi. Would he been able to do that if the whole family was living together?

R31 you neglected to mention that Soon-Yi was already in college when those nudes were taken.

By her own admission, Soon-Yi's first interaction with Woody was in 11th grade, when she was around 19.

At worst, they were committing adultery though I think Mia and Woody were already through by then.

But people make it seem like 1) Woody and Mia were married, 2) they adopted several children together, including Soon-Yi, and 3) he groomed Soon-Yi since she was a small child.

Incidentally, André Previn was nominated for 13 Best Score Oscars and won 4: Gigi, Porgy and Bess, Irma La Douce, My Fair Lady.

You can't commit adultery R32 if you're not married and the point of the photo story is he had way more privacy with separate residences to do his dirty doings.

[quote]his dirty doings

That has shades of Carrie's mother's, "I can see your dirty pillows."

You don't seduce your partner's teenage daughter (and the sister of your own children), you don't take nude photos of your partner's teenage daughter, and you don't compromise the teenage daughter's relationship with her mother by having sex with her, and by taking nude photos of her and then leaving them out for her mother to find.

Woody knows this was all wrong. He just doesn't care.

Yes, of course those are the actions of somebody who doesn't care how his actions affect other people. I don't think anybody would argue that the whole Soon-Yi affair wasn't disturbing and gross.

But people continually misrepresent their prior relationship to make it seem not just sordid but abusive and incestuous, and that simply isn't accurate. Of course what he did was wrong, but he didn't "seduce his daughter."

[quote]it seem not just sordid but abusive and incestuous, and that simply isn't accurate.

It likely seemed incestuous to Mia and the kids she shared with Woody. And it was definitely abusive because it tore their family apart.

R16, that was based on Woody’s real relationship with a high school girl.

Jesus Christ, I cannot believe some folks are trying to equivocate about Woody and Soon-Yi. It doesn't matter if they were married, he was the adopted daughter, etc. He was an authority figure to her throughout her childhood, he was in a relationship with her mother, she is 'special'. What he did was disgusting.

“I think you’re an even bigger pussy for not leaving your children with him!” 🚬

That quote alone betrays a warped perspective.

What got to me about Woody were the picks of his girlfriends addicted daughters vagina that he kept in his apartment while in the midst of his relationship with Mia. That was and is enough for me to close the door on Woody, although he is a terrific film maker.

Pics- not picks above, I intended

This isn't the first time Maher defended Allen . . .

Soon-Yi isn't "special." That was a lie Mia floated early on, before she decided that Soon-Yi was a wanton trollop. Soon-Yi has earned a degree from Columbia, and nobody who's ever met her seemed to think she's at all learning disabled.

And Woody was nothing to her while she was growing up. Certainly not an authority figure. He was her adoptive mother's boyfriend. What he did was a gross overstepping of boundaries, no question. It hurt many people. But he didn't take advantage of a mentally challenged girl who looked upon him as a substitute father...that simply is not what happened.

Why do the Mia fans always pretend not to know the facts after more than thirty years? It's galling.

MIA IS BITCH

If you suspect your child has been molested, go straight to the police. Dylan's alleged assault happened on a weekend but Mia didn't go to the police until the following Tuesday. In the meantime she videotaped Dylan, in an attempt to coax out all the details... No Oscar nom for that directorial debut. Mia's behavior is just as inexcusable as Woody's.

As for Woody and Soon Yi, my brother was fucking his sister-in-law while his wife was pregnant with their second child. That shit doesn't just happen to celebrities.

I don’t understand how the Soon-Yi shit has any relevancy at all here. He is being accused of molesting his biological daughter when she was five. That is a far cry from fucking your girlfriend’s 18-19 year old adopted daughter or expressing a desire for 17 year olds in a fictional movie. People don’t become pedophiles overnight.

Oh, here we go with the pearl clutchers who have stooped to all forms of secret debauchery but now show up to declare, "I will never watch another movie by that man who married an adult woman!"

Mia is Roseanne-level of batshit crazy. She was caught coaching her kids to say that they were abused. She collects kids and she abused them.

And.

She’s a very sick woman and she’s still lying about Ronan’s paternity. She stalked men.

People still believe that he had sex with his daughter who was never his daughter to begin with.

Mia put a sign on her front door that Woody’s molested their daughter at her kid’s birthday party.

No one doubts that Woody is fucked up, not even Woody. However, there is no proof that child molestation is part of his MO and Dylan’s story screams “repressed memory”, someone coached and brainwashed since childhood. She’s one step away from saying Woody put a knife in her rectum. She sounds like something out of the McMartin pre-school hoax.

[quote] he was the adopted daughter, etc. He was an authority figure to her throughout her childhood, he was in a relationship with her mother, she is 'special'.

Oh, dear. Hysterical frau alert! She was not special. That was another lie. He was not her father. Grow the fuck up.

Unlike Mia and her relationships, Soon-Yi is still married to Woody decades later.

[QUOTE] He is being accused of molesting his biological daughter when she was five.

Dylan is not Woody’s “biological daughter.”

Mia was definitely a woman scorned and knew she could not use Soon-Yi and Woody's perfectly legal relationship against them, so around the time that they split up, she concocted the story about Woody molesting their young daughter Dylan, which was investigated by the police et al. and ultimately no wrong-doing was found so Woody was never charged/convicted, but over the years people have conflated the two stories and now think that Soon-Yi was his adopted daughter that he groomed as a child and eventually married.

However, none of them are true.

Didn’t Lens “molest” her sister by putting pebbles and rocks up her sister’s pussy?

Here come the creep defenders, a little late though.

R56 it was his girlfriend’s teenage daughter. Stop with the obvious denial, freak.

There were millions of other jailbait girls in Manhattan that Woody could have gone after other than his partner's daughter. You people are grasping at straws to defend this perv.

So much cheap namecalling on this thread. if that's all you have to rely on, then you really don't have an argument behind you, do you?

Woody did go after those minor girls in Manhattan . They wouldn’t respond so he had to set his sights on the orphan his girlfriend adopted.

I don’t know R64. I’d say no matter how people try to spin it, Woody comes out looking like a bad guy, the people defending him know they sound ridiculous but don’t want to be called out on it.

Personally, I’ve gotten to an age where I won’t stop abusing people who have a horrendous lack of morals or ethics. Too many creeps and perverts have been given a free pass, I’m just tired of dealing with bad behavior all around these days.

R65, Woody has a history with numerous underage girls. The info even made his Wiki page.

R67 Woody is 88. In his day and time, dating underage girls was not uncommon or considered degenerate. Elvis anyone? Even in 1978 when he made Manhattan, nobody was screaming bloody murder at the story of a 40 year old having a romantic and sexual relationship with a 17 year old girl as they would today.

Where do you people come from that you're so completely bent out of shape by this issue? Does it make you feel superior that you don't approve?

R68, you say that on EVERY THREAD. Yes, dating underage girls was considered degenerate. The situation in "Manhattan" was considered funny in 1978, because it was a movie, not real life (we thought). Are you under 40, R68?

Men can truly be slimy reprehensible creatures. Can you imagine a famous woman fucking her boyfriend’s teenage adopted son? It would make people’s skin crawl and yet, people will still make excuses for Woody.

The standards for men are just so so low.

I actually saw Manhattan in a theater when it was released in Woody Allen's Upper East Side neighborhood where the filming too place. An older friend of mine who is in our group and was in the film industry had told me afterwards that Woody was known to date girls in their teens for years. I wasn't necessarily outraged, but I knew that it was inappropriate and technically illegal, even though there were people in the entertainment business that preferred girls under the legal age.

R70, that would never, ever happen.

Except it did, you stupid frau.

R72 how does this disprove what I said, you moron? She did it and people didn’t make excuses, it ruined her career.

And he wasn’t a teenager.

Oh wait he was a teenager. Well it still ruined her career. Woody still has defenders, they’re posting now.

[quote] Woody did go after those minor girls in Manhattan . They wouldn’t respond so he had to set his sights on the orphan his girlfriend adopted.

You love writing fiction. Do you have an agent?

[quote] Yes, dating underage girls was considered degenerate.

It absolutely was not. Even Anjelica Huston talked about it recently.

With a joint in his hand? My god, he's so edgy.

R75 it’s public knowledge he went after the teenage actresses on his movies. It’s public knowledge he pursued a relationship with the adopted teenage daughter of his girlfriend. Which part is fiction exactly?

R76 Angelica Huston defended pedophile sodomist Roman Polanski and adored her pedophile father. I think her views might be slightly colored.

Get that young cock, Gloria!

[quote]Soon-Yi is still married to Woody decades later.

No doubt a solely face-saving endeavor on his part.

You have no relevance, Bill...go towards the light...

R81 She’s not some retarded little girl under big bad Woody (who would fall apart with a gust of wind’s) thumb, my god.

Also 17 is not underage in New York. Or most of the world.

The cost benefit analysis on working with Woody has changed dramatically. As previously noted, he does't pay, doesn't interact with the cast and no longer attracts Oscar glory. Appartently Maher thinks talent should ignore that reality and take one for Team Woody. Perhaps Maher should go on a comedy tour with Bill Cosby and take the hit to his career. It's still a business Bill, get over yourself.

[quote] "some pretty damning" evidence, including Allen's desire for his girlfriends to "dress up in little anklets and Mary Janes and baby doll dresses."

What a thin rope to hang Woody with

Mia to Patti: You could be working with Glenn Close.

Patti to Mia: You could be working with Woody Allen.

Thus ends Day 1 of rehearsals for The Roommate.