Iran has just attacked Israel

OP is a MAGAT. I can’t see the OP at all because I have it blocked. Can someone else make a post who’s not a POS?

Israel shouldn't have attacked Iran's embassy in Damascus, but they did so with the evident intention of provoking Iran and escalating the conflict so that the US and Europe would be compelled to defend them. Netanyahu is a degenerate sociopath who is willing to drag the rest of the world into a global war so that he can escape prison for corruption and war crimes, and the sociopathic degenerates in the US and EU will be delighted to join him.

Good luck to us, because we're going to need it even though we're not to blame for anything at all.

R1 if you cannot see it, how are you posting?

Oh Jesus, what did Israel do now?

Original thread r1

Thanks, OP, but I’m playing with my Bengal props.

Asshole.

This is not fake news.

Israel needs to topple that hateful regime.

Iran had to do something after Damascus, but it is more terrified of a war with Israel-US than anyone. Also: FUCK ISRAEL and the US.

Only if you FUCK IRAN!

I wish the US would take care of it's own business.

President Biden has returned to the WH.

And what the fuck would you have us do, OP? We have no control over this shit.

President Biden is preparing to address the nation. Time unknown right now.

[quote] I wish the US would take care of it's own business.

Yes, and its business is protecting Israel. It needs to get busy.

I am so fucking tired of this shit.

FUCK Israel. I don’t honestly give a flying fuck about that country. Most of the rest of the world hates us because of our stance with that country.

Fuck Israel. They break international laws time and time again, where the fuck are the consequences??

This might well cost Biden (and the democrats) the presidency. He ignores opinions and the positions of other countries at his (and unfortunately ours) own peril.

FUCK Israel.

I believe the drones and missiles haven't landed yet.

R3, It shows up on the thread list on the right, but when I clicked on it, nothing was there. That's how I know I've blocked OP.

[QUOTE] President Biden is preparing to address the nation. Time unknown right now.

It’s unknown because you pulled that out of your ass.

Jordan sides with Israel.

Gen Z is going be THRILLED to go fight for Israel!

No, they are expected to land in about two hours R17

[quote] This might well cost Biden (and the democrats) the presidency.

If this hurts Biden, it will be because he caved to the antisemitic wing of the party and agreed to try to hobble Israel. He actually has a chance to redeem himself by standing strong with Israel in this fight.

R16, get a grip. You think Dump doesn't support Israel?

Israel says more than 100 drones have been launched now. First ones should reach Israel in 90 minutes or so.

[quote]I am so fucking tired of this shit.

Your concern is duly noted, Concern Troll.

Yeah let's just let the ME wipe Israel off the map. Everybody will be happier when we finally attain the Final Solution, right?

[quote] It shows up on the thread list on the right, but when I clicked on it, nothing was there. That's how I know I've blocked OP.

Hopefully OP will block r18 and then the two of them can call it even.

[quote]I wish the US would take care of it's own business.

"it's" contraction of "it is".

"its": possessive.

Please make a note of this, trollfarm supervisors.

R28, tell it to Apple, which mistakenly autocorrects it.

Yup, sounds good to me.

The white supremacists on here who think Iran have been provoked into this and "have to do something" are hilarious.

Israel are held to a higher standard and Iran and other Muslim theocracies can't help themselves.

[quote] Yeah let's just let the ME wipe Israel off the map.

Yes this is exactly what this is, a totally unprovoked attack from out of nowhere — it’s not at all a retaliation for Israel constantly murdering Iranians around the Middle East.

The Zionist cult seems to believe Israel has free rein to invade, murder and destroy at will, and no one had better DARE even think of fighting back. If you do you’re an ANTISEMITE!!!

[quote]Yup, sounds good to me.

Shove that operational RPG all the way up your prolapsed butthole, troll.

[quote] Israel are held to a higher standard

Is that what we call it when they purposefully murder 40,000 civilians, mostly women and children, and hardly a peep is heard from the world — and the US sends them billions more in weaponry?

OP, how DARE we discuss trivial things that did not somehow predict the wars of the future!

You are right to be outraged!

[quote] and hardly a peep is heard from the world

Are you out of your mind?

Hardly a peep is heard? There is nothing else I hear right now.

Queers for the Ayatollah!

R38 😅

[quote] Is that what we call it when they purposefully murder 40,000 civilians, mostly women and children, and hardly a peep is heard from the world

You really expect people to entertain your fantasy and propaganda that Israel did “purposely murder” the civilians who died as a result of being in a warzone?

Israel, you brought this on yourself.

Everyone needs to CALM THE FUCK DOWN. We are on the brink of WWIII

Let’s move Israel to Acapulco. This shit has gotta end. Middle East is a portal to hell

R37 and r37 poor babies, some people have said it’s bad.

Have they been sanctioned, invaded, ANYTHING? No, they’ve been given billions in weapons and no one has done a fucking thing.

R42 take your own advice Mary!

Israel turns exactly 911 months old this weekend. Spooky.

No, r41, Israel brings it on us.

Ballistic missiles launched from Iran.

R46 means nothing

R48 thinks she’s is Clarissa Ward.

Have you had a stroke, r50?

[QUOTE]This might well cost Biden (and the democrats) the presidency.

Isn't that what Netanyahu wants? In other words, he wants a second Trump presidency, hence the attack on Damascus which he knew would not go unanswered. And the stupids in our country will be more than happy to oblige.

You are siding with Putin and the Ayatollah. Congratulations on your integrity.

Game over, man. Game over!!!

Or not.

Actually if we are at war there’s virtually no chance Biden loses. But I don’t think it’ll come to that.

“It must have a natural cause.”

“It must have a supernatural cause.”

Let these two asses be set to grind corn.

My cousin in Tel Aviv finally DM'd me back on Instagram. He said when the news first came out nobody believed it because no one in Israel believes a damn thing Netanyahu says anymore, but now everyone is really starting to freak out, getting their kids and pets down into bomb shelters and safe rooms. He also said he popped a couple of edibles a few hours ago and is now sorely regretting it.

R55, in times of war, Americans don’t change horses.

No wonder Blinken and the CIA chief looked like death warmed over at the state dinner during the week. Imagine what we don't know.

R57 What time has he been informed the weapons will land in Israel?

Does anyone think Israel will be nuked?

How many of the missles and drones will Iron Dome be able to handle?

Israel will not be nuked.

Memories of a simpler time….

Calm down, lady. Did you just get out of prison?

UK fighter jets are deployed to assist Israel.

If Iran want a war they have one.

Who’s got a bigger hard on right now, Benjamin Netanyahu or Wolf Blitzer?

^source?

Israel wanted the war, and has been trying to engineer one in order to get the US to fight Iran for them. That was the reason they bombed the Iranian embassy in Syria. This is an Iranian retaliation for that bombing. Iran has been trying to NOT go to war, and the US, allegedly, has been trying to also avoid a conflict with Iran. But Israel really wants a big war that they can manipulate the US to fight for them.

R60 He says news channels kept giving different estimates and it was just stressing them the fuck out so they turned everything off and are just waiting for the alarms. All newer Israeli homes have safe rooms built in and there are lots of community bomb shelters because they're used to this kind of thing. He's one of the most hardline atheists I know but he said he and his partner are actually praying, so that's kind of scaring me.

CNN: US has downed some of the drones. Not clear how.

R63 they will be eventually but (probably) not during this current conflict

emergency, emergency

Iran has been a dangerous enemy of the US for more than 40 years. They are arming Putin in Ukraine. The US and the Sunni Arabs will not be fighting for Israel. They want the Ayatollahs out of power.

Emergancy r73!

Netanyahu is Israel's Trump. No one can stand him and like someone said above, he'd welcome a war to stay in office. Dangerous right-winger owned by the ultra right wing.

No, they won't R72. If a nuclear conflagration starts, the consequences would be devastating for the entire planet and the destruction of all life would be the consequence. Nobody is insane enough to do this.

Also, several trolls are trying to spread misinformation to cause mass hysteria. Rishi Sunak has condemned the attack, but the UK isn't sending any planes to Israel and so far, Biden has only returned to the White House. Let's hope that cooler heads prevail or else, we're all going to regret it.

Ballistic missiles have been launched by Iran follow the incoming drone wave

Iran using the IRGC has been and supporting and sponsoring Hamas and their terrorist acts for over 20 years. They are the primary instigators by proxy of the October 7th attacks in Israel.

Goddammit, I was home relaxing on a Saturday afternoon. Now, I have to put my face on and go into work.

Whatever Iran's attack strategy currently is, you know Israel's response is going to dwarf it.

R79, please be quiet. NOBODY knew that Hamas would initiate a surprise attack on Israel, and both Iran and Hezbollah were even disconcerted over it. What prompted the October 07 attacks has been Israel's genocidal approach to their relationships with the Palestinian people, and the refusal to even countenance a Two State solution, or make any compromise, for that matter.

Iran didn't cause this, and there is no evidence to support your assertions. You should stop trying to look for ways to increase support for a wider conflict, because the consequences are going to be awful for everyone.

I don't care what happens in the Middle East and if it ever starts to affect me personally, then I will support nuking the entire region, making it become a no-go zone for millennia.

CNN: Iran announces to UN that its attack is over. “Matter can be considered concluded.” Warns US to stay out.

R82, Oh, I agree that Netenyahu's policies regarding Palestine was basically an apartheid state. And I have been very much an outspoken critic of the Israeli occupation settlements going on for two decades now. Netanyahu has been the biggest obstacle to any type of meaningful progress with the Palestinians. But Iran has always been the biggest backer of Hamas, who also refuse the accept Israels right to exist.

[QUOTE]I don't care what happens in the Middle East and if it ever starts to affect me personally, then I will support nuking the entire region, making it become a no-go zone for millennia.

It affects me personally whenever I go to the supermarket and gas station.

Iran knows it has to back down. The Iranian mission says it's over. They can't rely on other Arab nations or Russia.

Sucks to be you, r85.

R82. The Russians , Americans and Egyptians all warned Israel pre Oct 7.

There is a lot of circumstantial evidence that the Israeli government knew what was coming, though not the scale of it, and let it occur in order to capitalize on it for their long awaited opportunity to ethnically cleanse Gaza and kill or drive out all the Palestinians living there. A golden opportunity for them.

The Hamas attack had nothing to do with Iran or Hezbullah.

R88 You don't know the half of it.

Well that was a damp squib.

R89 pulling it out of his ass.

Wait, so that's it? It's over? What, was Iran just feeling cute and wanting a little attention?

I haven't got the energy for WW3 right now. Can't the Middle East just calm down a bit? Search for some ASMR on YouTube? Nicolas Fairford advising us on how to host the ultimate garden party, or one of those "oldies playing in the next room" compilations?

What a bizarre turn of events.

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Iran suggests it will not launch further strikes Iran is now citing Article 51 of the UN Charter for its attack.

It says "the matter can be deemed concluded" - suggesting it will not launch further strikes. However, it has warned against any retaliation or any involvement by the United States.

“Conducted on the strength of Article 51 of the UN Charter pertaining to legitimate defense, Iran’s military action was in response to the Zionist regime’s aggression against our diplomatic premises in Damascus," its permanent mission at the United Nations said on Twitter/X. "The matter can be deemed concluded. However, should the Israeli regime make another mistake, Iran’s response will be considerably more severe. It is a conflict between Iran and the rogue Israeli regime, from which the U.S. MUST STAY AWAY!”

Article 51 of the UN Charter says that member states have "the inherent right of individual or collective self-defense if an armed attack occurs".

Finally the world can be free of the fucking Ayatollahs. Kill ‘em all, Israel.

How is it “over” when the drones and missiles haven’t reached Israel yet? The damage inflicted from them will help determine how Israel responds. It’s far from over. To the contrary, it hasn’t even begun.

All these wars Trump is starting.

Very good point, R97. Kind of hilarious though, them barking at the US to MIND YOUR OWN BEESWAX!

Putin desperately wants a war with the U.S. He keeps poking. He wants an excuse to launch nuclear warheads at major U.S. cities. I'm sure he's working closely with Trump.

[QUOTE]NOBODY knew that Hamas would initiate a surprise attack on Israel, and both Iran and Hezbollah were even disconcerted kibbutz.

Except for the countries who warned Israel. Bald-faced liar. Netanyahu's non-response and his previous move of IDF away to the West Bank left the area vulnerable and exposed. In some instances it took IDF two hours to reach stricken kibbutzes.

If Trump were in power, he’d declare war on Iran.

Israel: fuck around and find out

When will enough destruction be enough?

Why R102? What was it in the Trump administration that made you think he'd start a war? Was it releasing all of Iran's funds so they had money to do all this shit?

[quote] Finally the world can be free of the fucking Ayatollahs. Kill ‘em all, Israel.

AYATOLLAH ASS-A-HOL-A!

[quote] Why [R102]? What was it in the Trump administration that made you think he'd start a war? Was it releasing all of Iran's funds so they had money to do all this shit?

Perhaps his assassination of the head of the Quds force which lead to a direct attack on US troops by Iran?

Something tells me Christianne Amanpour will be fairly busy on CNN over the next few days.

Saudi Arabia sides with Israel.

It's the battle of the "I" countries!

R108 I like Christianne. She pops up through the years whenever the shit is really going down. I'm sure it hasn't been easy for her to be a journalist in the war torn regions.

Thank you for the information, R89. It makes a lot of sense and you are right.

R85, sorry if I have come across as very aggressive, but this is a very serious situation.

R109, the Saudi upper classes only care about themselves and have always had an extremely cordial relationship with Israel, based on mutual economic interests. However, the majority of the Saudi population is furious at Israel due to its treatment of Palestinians, and this is also the case with most other Middle Eastern states. Things don't look too well for any of these governments, if you ask me.

Everyone, please stop sounding like complete ninnies and Marys! about nuclear bombs being thrown all over the place.

Thanks.

You're Right R105, Trump didn't have to start a War with Iran, instead with advanced Intel, and AGREEMENT with Iranian forces, let Iran attack a U.S. Military Base that resulted in the brain injury of 100 military personnel there. All because Iranian leaders "complemented Trump", and to hel

Oops and to let Iran save face. TREASONOUS.

I'm willing to believe most anything about Trump r114, but do you have a source on that? What military base? Were there really 100 brain injuries?

There is intense fighting going on right now in Israeli air space as it's military defenses fight off Iranian drones and Cruise Missiles.

any kind of proof R114? Of course not.

So it's not actually over, by any means. Iran basically saying it's over if Israel doesn't retaliate, but offuckingcourse they will be. They have to. They've already approved a military response.

Israel shouldn’t have targeted their embassy.

This is insane, R119. Israel attacked Iran's embassy in Damascus and Iran has just issued a warning of sorts. If they escalate this, the magnitude of the conflict that will arise will be beyond terrible. Biden's handlers ought to tell Netanyahu that enough is enough.

Iran escalated it. If they wanted to do something in equal measure, they would have attacked an embassy in a foreign country. Instead they attacked Israel itself. That's an act of war.

One country bombing another country’s embassy is an act of war.

And so it attacking an embassy, R122. Don't be dishonest - you know that Israel did this on purpose and while Iran shouldn't have fallen into their trap, the Iranian government isn't to blame.

If only Bebe Glazer were in charge of Israel rather than Bibi Netanyahu.

Iran could’ve responded by mailing the Israelis a few letters with anthrax, said “We’re done” and the war cabinet would approve a military response! Bibi can’t stay in power without war and the wider the conflict becomes, the greater chance he’ll remain prime minister. He’s confident that America will be there to back up its little brother Israel, so why not turn it into a regional war?

Iran has the right to defend itself.

…now will people finally wake up and stop fucking around in that region already?!

Israel can now cite Article 51 of the UN Charter to justify a retaliatory self-defense attack on Iran.

Good lord.

R124 Israel was targeting the guy that controlled the proxies in the area. It's not like they did it for shit and giggles.

R11 We told Israel a long time ago that as our ally we would have their back.

Just in case you think this shit show can’t get any worse:

“ 🚨#BREAKING: Former president Trump will be an address to the nation against the Iran attack soon at his rally tonight.”

The person killed in Syria was directing proxies that attack Israel on the daily. He was sitting in an adjacent building and not an embassy or consulate. He is an active participant in a war even if he is part of the Iranian regime, he was a legitimate target.

No one fucking cares what happens at a MAGA rally.

R20 The only reason the Arab Monarchies are joining Israel is for their own self interest, Iran absolutely despises them.

Do stop it, R130. Israel didn't have the right to murder anyone, because Iran hadn't attacked anyone. Moreover, are you shameless enough to claim that Iran controls Hezbollah and Hamas? COME ON! This is downright ridiculous.

Bibi will never stop. He's owned by the rich settlers who ironically do not have to serve in the skirmishes they help start. He, like Trump, needs to stay in power to avoid prosecution, just like his criminal wife. I have compassion for what he's been through but he needs to adjust his thinking and break free from his enablers. I get where he's coming from. He lost his (hot) brother Jonathan who was killed commanding the raid to free the hostages in Entebbe.

Thank you R133!

[quote]Just in case you think this shit show can’t get any worse: “ 🚨#BREAKING: Former president Trump will be an address to the nation against the Iran attack soon at his rally tonight.”

But Biden can still salvage it if he stands forcefully with Israel in both word and deed and stops criticizing Israel about Gaza. It's a time for him to shine as a protector, not a critic, of Israel.

Uh, yeah, R136, I am. Because I don't get my news at the Queerz-4-Palestine Student Center.

Love that team Trump is trying to characterize his forthcoming ramblings about Iran in front of crowd of hundreds of obese swing state bottom-feeders who couldn’t find Iran on a map as an “address to the nation”.

R16 Yes Biden loses the presidency over Israel and Donald Trump wins. He’s a bigger ally to Israel than Biden lol

Times of Israel: Senior office pledges unprecedented response.

I love all these people cozied up in front their computers or on their phones in the states saying “Fuck the US” who would never step foot in Iran.

Will people STOP saying Israel attacked an Iranian Embassy? They attacked an office complex that housed the man who helped coordinate the Oct 7th pogrom that just happened to be near the embassy. The embassy itself was never the target.

Iran: "The matter has been deemed CONCLUDED!"

'complemented'?

Maybe not so damp squibbish after all, I spoke too soon

NYT says only a little girl was hurt.

At his rally, Trump blames Biden for war because Biden makes USA look weak.

R149 - did you get lost on the way to Stormfront?

R150 So far also three Jordanians have been killed. And there are still two more waves of missiles on the way.

CNN has trotted out Wolf Blitzer, a thing they do when they want Americans to take shit seriously

They finally flew Wolf in from Martha’s Vineyard? Iran just ruined his weekend.

Wow, this is pretty wild! Israel intercepting missiles IN SPACE!

Actual Iranian citizens are standing with Israel. This is literally what they have been praying for. Not to mention a weakened Iran will also greatly benefit Ukraine. A weakened Iran is a weakened Russia.

Iran is basically proving tonight it doesn't have what it takes to take down a powerful western nation. This attack, believe it or not, is the largest single attack against one nation from another since WW2, and if these missiles hadn't been taken down by Israel's defense system, thousands of Israelis and Americans could have been killed in one fell swoop. And yet, so far, under five have been killed. This is an embarrassment to Iran, and, by extension, Russia.

Will you please STOP saying that Israel has targeted hospitals in Gaza? They’ve been aiming at fire hydrants in front of hospitals. Any impact on nearby hospitals is unfortunate collateral damage.

Yeah, Iran can't attack Israel directly and not expect a hardcore response. The fact that Israel has a pretty impressive defense system doesn't change that. What a dumb thing to do. Oh well, can't shed a tear for homophobic Iran.

[quote]This attack, believe it or not, is the largest single attack against one nation from another since WW2.

????

R158 Yawn. Don't you have a bridge somewhere to needlessly hold up traffic on?

CNN: Israel has told citizens they no longer have to stay close to bomb shelters.

Biden allowed the UN sanctions on Iran's drones and ballistic missiles to expire less than six months ago.

The very same drones and missiles en route to Israel right now.

Iran doesn’t have a right to defend itself

John Bolton on CNN right now advocating for a full-on coalition invasion into Iran sufficient to topple their government.

^^What a surprise! And here I had thought John Bolton would be advocating peace and flowers!

Bolton is a fucking nut who would be more than happy to nuke every Muslim country not in the pocket of US corporate interests.

[quote]Wow, this is pretty wild! Israel intercepting missiles IN SPACE!

OMFG it's just like fucking STAR WARS!

Except the Empire are Muslims and the Rebels are Jews!

Well obviously, r166, but I sort of thought he’d eaten enough crow at this point to just keep his yap shut. MAGA people want nothing to do with his neocon shit. There’s no appetite among any sizable American contingency for “regime change” or direct involvement in foreign war. He needs to make like Condi and enjoy a comfortable retirement and cunnilingus.

Oh dear

Mr. Barnicoat seems to be anti-Israel based on his posts. I'm sure he's hoping to be right.

R168 Hahaha, that's what my boyfriend screamed when I showed him the video. The little geek in him is doing cartwheels.

Israel needs to have the nukes at the ready.

Indonesia declares war on Ireland!

Yes a massive and idiotic invasion of Iran, followed by a useless and fucked up nonsense occupation! Clearly, the one and only answer!

Are the "Queers for Palestine" still supporting for them?

Omg, John Bolton is already on his third premature ejaculation of the night. He is in the ZONE.

R176 You know it, baby! Here they are in Toronto earlier tonight Yas Kween'ing Iran.

MAGATS are the most gullible fools on the planet the have reasoning skills of four year olds.

Dumb ass Bush should've let Sadam Hussein in Iraq to neutralize Iran. But we are where we are. Iran is destabilizing US interests long enough. The ayatollahs want control. Destabilizing their central government at their home is key. America is intercepting the Iranian drones tonight. So, I feel good that America is taking a leadership role.

Israel's Channel 12 has told residents "not to go to bed yet" because an unprecedented attack on Iran is coming, according to an official.

The country's war cabinet has approved a "powerful response on Iranian soil".

[quote]At his rally, Trump blames Biden for war because Biden makes USA look weak.

I highly recommend everyone fill their cars up tonight, because gas prices will be going through the roof come Monday, whether or not Israel ends up taking out oil fields.

R160 Something confusing you?

Meh, it’s an “I hit you for clout, then you hit me for clout, and neither of us suffers much,”

Bibi must be all jacked up to fire some missiles.

Do any military nerds here know if Israel actually has the capacity to take out Iran's nuclear enrichment sites? Aren't most of them like, buried under mountains?

Isreal is getting close to the American ally Saudi Arabia. Iran cannot fantom Isreal and The Saudis being friends. They need to interject themselves into everything in that region to gain status and relevancy

Tehran says it is one and done unless Israel retaliates.

Maybe Hamas shouldn't have committed a terrorist attack on Oct 7th. They took hostages which they still haven't released. They carried off women from that concert and raped them. Why Is Iran even getting involved? Now we have radicalized Muslims here in America starting their shit. I admit I'm not an expert in foreign relations, but since I was a kid all I remember on the nightly news was terror in the Middle East.

Israel killed seven Iranian officials in a drone attack two weeks ago, dumbass R190.

R190 Why is Iran even getting involved? Sis, Iran is the one that bankrolls Hamas.

Iran is involved in lots of shit, including providing missiles to Russia.

I'm not a dumbass R191. What should Israel do sit back and take it? Hamas are terrorists and their population seems to support them.

Until very recently, Iran produced all of Russia's drones in-house. We should have taken out those factories when we had the chance.

Me Boris.

Me interloper who keeps putting down other posters with, "Girlies, girlies...." and then fucking up English like a typical ESL troll.

Grease fire it.

So Iran sent some crappy drones over to confuse the Iron Dome and while it's being reset they'll fire the missiles.

You already said that up-thread R197.

Of course Israel is going to retaliate. This was a direct attack on their nation.

From Twitter, it doesn't look like Iron Dome was used here:

Almost all shoot downs have been by aircraft, David's Sling, or Arrow defense systems. Heralded Iron Dome which blocks Hamas and Hezbollah's simple rockets are less relevant to shoot down these sorts of drone and long range fancier missiles threats.

If Israel can afford a sophisticated defense system why do we need to send them money?

Fuck

Senator Chris Murphy Logo Murphy: President Trump's Policy Towards Iran Was A Disaster February 28, 2024

WASHINGTON—U.S. Senator Chris Murphy (D-Conn.), Chairman of the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on Near East, South Asia, Central Asia and Counterterrorism, on Wednesday spoke at a U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on addressing Iran’s proxy network in the Middle East with former U.S. Special Representative for Iran and Senior Policy Advisor to the Secretary of State Brian Hook.

“I thought your opening remarks sounded a lot more like a campaign speech for Donald Trump's re-election than a sober analysis of the situation on the ground in the region,” Murphy said. “Charitably, they were an attempt to rehabilitate President Trump's Iran policy that was a complete, total failure by every available metric. I wasn't coming to this hearing to rehash our policy towards Iran from 2017 to 2020, but I think it's really important to set the record straight. Because if this committee or the American public gets the impression that what President Trump was doing was working and should be brought back as policy going into the future, we're in real trouble.”

Murphy laid out the failures of the Trump administration’s Iran policy: “Here's the facts. When Donald Trump came into office, Iran was over a year from being able to achieve a nuclear weapon. By the time President Trump left office, that breakout time had dropped to months. When President Trump came to office, proxies of Iran were strong. When he left office, they were just as strong, if not stronger. This idea that Iran stopped sending money to Hezbollah during Trump's presidency is just wrong. $700 million was the annual amount of support delivered from Iran in the middle of Trump's presidency; [and] that's what was being delivered at the end of his presidency. There were no attacks on US forces in Iraq when Donald Trump became president. From 2019 to 2020, attacks on US forces in Iraq increased by 400%. It got so bad that Secretary Pompeo started to close down the embassy in Baghdad because it had become so dangerous. Attacks on US forces raised to epidemic levels from the beginning of Trump's presidency to the end. The anti-Iran coalition wasn't strengthened, it was shattered. We had Russia and China on board with the JCPOA. By the end of the Trump presidency, Europe wasn't supporting our Trump politics, our Iran policy, they were undermining it.”

Murphy continued: “President Trump's policy towards Iran was a disaster. They got closer to a nuclear weapon, their proxies didn't get any weaker, US troops came under attack in a way that they were not prior to Trump's presidency, and our coalition, that had been carefully built around the nuclear agreement, ready to be used to go after Iran's ballistic missile program or their support for proxies, had vanished.”

r202 Because the US has a base here from where it projects force over the entire Middle East. Keeping Israel afloat is an important national security goal.

Iran splurges hundreds of millions of dollars on an attack where 99% of drones and missiles were intercepted, then immediately declares ceasefire after having given advanced warning of the attack as well. All because this is still a lot cheaper than an outright war with Israel. Modern conflict is so weird.

Iran is not particularly integral to the global oil trade, Henny Penny.

*a base THERE, not here. I don't live in Israel.

R202 How do you think they afford that sophisticated defense system?

Iran is what Republicans are trying to turn America into. Iran has bigger problems than attacking the Hebrews. Their economy is in shambles, the women their are pissed and they are a pariah on the world stage

To think that in about 100 years most of the Middle East will be under water. I wish it could happen sooner.

People were saying this was the start of WWIII, but it has really turned out to be kind of a nothingburger, hasn't it? I read that 99% of the missiles and drones were shot out of the sky before they ever reached Israel.

R212 It will only be a nothingburger if Israel chooses not to retaliate, which seems unlikely, considering they've already announced they plan to.

Yeah tonight was a dud, but it gives Israel carte blanche to do whatever the fuck they want. They’re going to do their damndest to pull us into a hot war with Iran. Most of the country is fed up with spending hundreds of billions to prop up Israel. After Iraq and Afghanistan, most voters here are skeptical about entanglement in foreign wars. I don’t want to say we should hang Israel out to dry, but we should probably hang Israel out to dry.

Israel is a thorn in the side of the entire world.

That’s an interesting opinion r216. I don’t share it.

We're certainly in it now.

𝐔𝐒 𝐬𝐡𝐨𝐨𝐭𝐬 𝐝𝐨𝐰𝐧 𝐈𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐢𝐚𝐧 𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐧𝐞 𝐚𝐢𝐫𝐜𝐫𝐚𝐟𝐭 𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐝 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐈𝐬𝐫𝐚𝐞𝐥-𝐔𝐒 𝐨𝐟𝐟𝐢𝐜𝐢𝐚𝐥𝐬

Link below.

Furthermore:

𝐔𝐒 𝐡𝐞𝐥𝐩𝐬 𝐈𝐬𝐫𝐚𝐞𝐥 𝐬𝐡𝐨𝐨𝐭 𝐝𝐨𝐰𝐧 ‘𝐧𝐞𝐚𝐫𝐥𝐲 𝐚𝐥𝐥’ 𝐈𝐫𝐚𝐧-𝐥𝐚𝐮𝐧𝐜𝐡𝐞𝐝 𝐚𝐭𝐭𝐚𝐜𝐤 𝐝𝐫𝐨𝐧𝐞𝐬 𝐚𝐬 𝐁𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐧 𝐯𝐨𝐰𝐬 𝐬𝐮𝐩𝐩𝐨𝐫𝐭

Kill them all, Joe. Seriously, the Lord will know his own.

[quote][R82]. The Russians , Americans and Egyptians all warned Israel pre Oct 7. There is a lot of circumstantial evidence that the Israeli government knew what was coming, though not the scale of it, and let it occur in order to capitalize on it for their long awaited opportunity to ethnically cleanse Gaza and kill or drive out all the Palestinians living there. A golden opportunity for them. The Hamas attack had nothing to do with Iran or Hezbullah.

Do cretins actually believe this?

The idea that Iran wanted this drone and missile attack to just be a nothing burger is ridiculous. You don't send hundreds if your intent is just to make a meaningless statement. That's far too many to expect Israel's defenses to get everything. This is a classic case of people thinking just because something didn't work out as planned it must have secretly been the desired result.

That statement from Iran was something else. “Now, we’re attacking you with over a hundred missiles. But that’s an END to it now! As you were. Carry on with business. Nothing to see here. Nu-uh!”

The entire world has lost its damn mind.

[R55], in times of war, Americans don’t change horses.

R58 yeah, but Trump has proven the exception to the rule.

Many were dismissive that he would get the nomination the first time around, never mind actually win the presidency, because he was a former reality TV host with no political experience and did/said everything that heretofore would have sunk another candidate's campaign.

[quote][R55], in times of war, Americans don’t change horses.

[R58] yeah, but Trump has proven the exception to the rule.

Many were dismissive that he would get the nomination the first time around, never mind actually win the presidency, because he was a former reality TV host with no political experience and did/said everything that heretofore would have sunk another candidate's campaign.

R223, when the Iranians are the sane ones, things have really taken a turn.

Each side needs to escalate but neither wants a war.

[quote]Middle East is a portal to hell

Axis of evil.

[quote]Also, several trolls are trying to spread misinformation to cause mass hysteria. Rishi Sunak has condemned the attack, but the UK isn't sending any planes to Israel and so far, Biden has only returned to the White House. Let's hope that cooler heads prevail or else, we're all going to regret it.

"Trolls" - it was reported by UK broadcasters 15 hours ago that UK planes were involved and now Sunak has confirmed it himself.

This poster should cool his own head by climbing in the freezer for a day or two.

Fuck the middle east!

The rest of the entire world has problems of their own. They can go to hell.

R222, you don't know what you're talking about. Iran also lobbed a softball response at *us* a few years back when Trump decided to pop off and have one their generals killed. All week everyone was sitting with baited breath waiting to see how they would respond, and when they did, it was clear that they did not want to escalate. They responded at a bare minimum and only to save face.

This was not a “softball” response. A softball response would have been firing a few missiles at a military facility, not hundreds of missiles and drones aimed all over the country.

R233, of course it was a softball response. Everyone had nine hours to prepare; it appears that nothing in Israel was damaged. Iran has announced that they won't be doing anything else. Biden told Netanyahu that was it and that the U.S. would not support a counterattack.

Well, I'm glad I didn't wake up this morning to a nuclear Armageddon.

You have an odd definition of “softball.”

Yeah, as much as I hate Netanyahu and don’t want a wider regional conflict, I’m not sure I could just let this slide if I’ m Israel. Iran was a little too extra.

I’m almost sorry to say that I think Israel should respond militarily. If I’m the President, I would not discourage them.

More profits for every country's war machine.

Why does Israel need to respond? It was a display but nothing bad happened, relatively speaking. Israel is tiring.

Because it was directly into the country. Comparing this to what Iran did after we killed one of their generals doesn't work. They attacked our forces in Iraq with a few missiles in that case. If Iran had sent drones and missiles into the United States proper, you bet your ass we'd have done something even if they did no damage. Americans would've demanded it. Netanyahu has to do at least something.

Now, what I think Israel should do is attack Iranian drone manufacturing sites and then stop. I don't think anyone could deny that would be a justified response. I expect them to possibly do more than that, but oh well.

Israel *HAVE* been attacking Iran's drone factories, and saved countless Ukrainian lives as a result.

"Letting things slide" is seen as a major sign of weakness by the followers of the genocidal prophet of peace. The only thing they ever let slide are gays off roofs.

Biden: We're out.

Thank you 192.

R202 - excellent question. Fuck Israel anyway.

John Bolton: it’s time to bomb Iran, baby!

Isn’t it easy for John Bolton to be a war hawk since he is near death (age 75) and doesn’t live in the Middle East?

Bolton never met a problem that a war couldn’t solve. Why do these cable news channels put him on when they already know what his answer will be? I haven’t really watched MSNBC or CNN in years now and seeing his mustache on my television is one thing I don’t miss.

You just know that Bolton goes home each night, puts on a bra and half-slip, and recites WInston Churchill speeches from memory in front of a mirror.

Now that Biden's made it clear the US won't participate in any retaliatory strokes against Iran, is it safe to relax a bit? Or should we still be freaking out?

[quote]puts on a bra and half-slip

cheap tricot

R250 I’m going to relax a bit. I went to bed last night as the missiles were on their way and half expected to wake up in world war 3. Nobody needs this stress! Why do world leaders always have to be such wankcunts?

Seems Israelis are grateful to Biden for talking Bibi down. Street art today in Tel Aviv:

Fuck Israel and all its drama.

More like fuck Iran.

So many people horrified at the lack of dead Jews.

Baby, it’s not 1943 again.

It's currently 1 AM in Iran. This is the time of day Israel would strike if they were going to. I expect some retaliation, but in a day or two.

It's excellent that so many countries assisted Israel, especially those in the region.

Somebody had to do it.

Any update?

Israel decided to hold off on any further retaliatory action towards Iran because they realized the world is sick of them.

Stalemate?

R261, Israel will strike when Iran least expects it.

[quote] You just know that Bolton goes home each night, puts on a bra and half-slip, and recites WInston Churchill speeches from memory in front of a mirror.

And what's [italic]wrong[/italic] with that, may I ask?

Iran put on a fireworks show.