The Talk cancelled at CBS

I’m okay with that.

May that fat wildebeest never work again.

Good. I hate Joy Behar.

Bwahahaha

The what now? Never heard of it. Though Jerry is still very cute in that pic.

R3 that’s The View.

This leaves room for the new black soap opera, "The Gates" that CBS is developing for its daytime schedule.

It just got too cerebral for the target audience: welfare queens and stay-at-home mommies.

R7 Are enough black people sitting around at home watching daytime TV to support a new soap opera?

R9 - Racist bot

It is unwatchable. Jerry has to be the most annoying talk show host in the history of television. And Sheryl is dumb as shit.

The show was doomed from the moment Sharon Osborne was fired

The Talk replaced a soap opera, and fourteen years later, it's being replaced by a soap opera.

As Caitlyn Jenner said yesterday, "Good riddance".

It’s nice to see karma taking care of Sheryl Underwood after she stabbed her friend Sharon in the back.

The Squawk Is Dead to Me.

FINALLY!

Stupid show except for Natalie Morales.

Good riddance to professional widow Amanda Kloots.

I never liked this show atall.

R3=Rose Nylund

I don't know who he is, but the black man is really good looking.

Thank you, GOD. The show was a dumpster fire from the start. It was nothing but a blatant ripoff of The View only centered around motherhood (the first few seasons) and pop culture.

It was only created as a gift for bland and spoiled Julie Chen from her sex pest husband Les Moonves after she whined about wanting her own talk show. She didn't get to enjoy it long enough after her husband's actions came to light and she was ousted.

[quote] It’s nice to see karma taking care of Sheryl Underwood after she stabbed her friend Sharon in the back.

Agreed. I'm not a fan of Sharon, but I didn't like how Sherly Underwood stabbed her in the back and painted her as a "racist." That was dirty, especially when Sharon was one of the OG hosts who wanted Sheryl on the show.

I guest those of you who were so quick to accuse Sheryl Underwood of angelic Sharon Osbourne's firing that you conveniently forgot this:

[quote] Leah Remini Says Sharon Osbourne Used Offensive Language on 'Talk' Set

That's the price you pay for hiring a lower class Brit

We already knew that Sharon was salty and foreign to our ways without needing to wait for Leah to point that out.

Oim sooo glaad. They was sufferin without me.

r22, I'm pretty sure that Sara Gilbert had this totally original idea of five women sitting around a table chitchatting about periods and hot flashes. Julie was placed there by Les as part of the greenlighting.

Jerry O'Connell has needed Ritalin for years. He should have stayed the fat kid he was in Stand By Me.

Jerry O'Connell is one of those hacks like Mario Lopez or Donny Osmond who never really cared about working his craft or his art... he just wanted to remain being famous.

I wonder what other shows Sarah Gilbert will dream up next while soaking in her bathtub.

What the fuck is that pic at OP?

Wasn’t this a rival to The View? Looks like an HGTV show.

It’s because of the pretentious way they pronounced the show’s name. They hard pronounced the L, so it was like “The Tall-k.” I hated that and would not watch.

In OP’s pic, O’Connell looks like he’s watching squirrels fucking.

They put two MEN on women's chat show. That's incredibly stupid. It changes the whole atmosphere - particularly when it's a man doing the moderating.

Their viewership are WOMEN.

And has Jerry O'Connell been successful in ANY SHOW? I'm soooo tired of seeing him mug on the camera. He's a C-list actor that gets thrown in our faces way too much.

Hahahahaha

Oh this is not the same as The Real which was apparently cancelled too

Will Jerry be doing the narration on the Young Sheldon spin-off?

[quote] They put two MEN on women's chat show. That's incredibly stupid. It changes the whole atmosphere

Jerry O'Connell has higher estrogen levels than an Eleanor Roosevelt

First, the “woke” and their ilk came for celebs. Then comedy. Now it’s talk shows. Then the Trumpsters cried about being censored.

The bickering between libs and Magats is destroying any sort of civil conversation.

[quote]Jerry O'Connell has higher estrogen levels than an Eleanor Roosevelt

Who doesn't have higher estrogen levels than Eleonor Roosevelt?

So far, just about every talk show which copied 'The View' in the past 25+ years have failed. 'The Talk', 'The Real', 'The Other Half' (the all-male show with five male hosts), etc. Yet after 27 seasons, 'The View' remains the #1 daytime talk show on television. They're doing something right.

I wouldn’t call The Talk a failure after having lasted 15 seasons. But I did always think it was ridiculous that Sara Gilbert was credited with coming up with the idea for the slow when it’s literally a copy of The View.

I’ve never really watched, but was aware of the Sharon/Sheryl drama. I’m sure Sharon is a garbage person, but the way Sheryl let her twist in the wind seemed pretty gross given that they were supposedly friends.

What was Sheryl supposed to do? Sharon got herself into that mess. It wasn't up to Sheryl to save her. Sharon should have kept her mouth shut.

[quote]I wouldn’t call The Talk a failure after having lasted 15 seasons.

It spent most of those fifteen years at the very bottom of the daytime ratings. Every spring, there were rumors that the show was being canceled that summer - but CBS brought it back because they had nothing to replace it that would cost so little to produce as this show. Now they have something in the works to replace it, and were quick to pull the plug on this shitfest.

If The Gates is replacing The Talk, that is not cheap. I wonder what the production model will look like. Will it be five days a week, 52 weeks a year? Will they film in LA or Atlanta or Canada? Strictly sound stage or sound stages and location shooting? Everyone is calling it a "black" soap, but will it be an only black cast? Will CBS put it immediately following Y&R for the lead in? YR, The Gates, then BB?

Jerry O’Connor is hard on the eyes. And ears. The love child of Howdy and Judy Doody.

[quote]Jerry O’Connor is hard on the eyes.

Oh, dear.

Why’d they bring men into the picture?

They were trying to expand their viewership (as 'The View' has done over the past seasons) and attract more men into their audience / viewership. So they brought two men on board hoping that would do the trick - it didn't.

[quote] So they brought two men on board hoping that would do the trick - it didn't.

Yes, but they used two CIS straight men. That’s not as entertaining as the alternatives.

That's why it didn't work.

Dylan Mulvaney would have added more spice.

Ha, ha. Well played, r47. I got his name right the first time but decided to rewrite the post while watching Singin’ in the Rain. ☂️😎

[quote] Will CBS put it immediately following Y&R for the lead in? YR, The Gates, then BB?

While the network owns so many daytime hours, I think affiliates have some leeway on how they run the shows, since the order and time they air isn't the same in each locale. Compare the CBS broadcast schedules for NYC, Albuquerque, and Honolulu. (This is especially true for shitfest Let's Make A Deal.)

R52 They should've added her a few years ago. Then it would've been cancelled much sooner.

[quote]Oh this is not the same as The Real which was apparently cancelled too

Wait, there was a third version of these freak-fests?

The View probably would have been cancelled if they hadn't done that split screen between Rosie and Elizabeth and let them duke it out over politics. The show sort of found it's way then, before it was kind of a joke. The Talk was just a cheap alternative to soaps and a way to give Julie her own show. The Real was just an urban version.

[quote]They put two MEN on women's chat show. That's incredibly stupid. It changes the whole atmosphere

Preach.

'The View' was almost canceled in Meredith's last season (2005-06). Audiences were tired of her and the rest of the panel, and were completely turned off by Star Jones and her wedding (and her faux dieting, which she really had stomach surgery). Walters made a smart move when she hired Rosie for the ninth season (2006-07) and fired Jones.

Ratings skyrocketed with Rosie, as she brought in serious topics for discussion - politics especially. That's when they started attracting a huge male audience to their viewership and in the studio. When Whoopi took over the following season (with Sherri added) ratings held - but then dropped slightly. They hit bottom in 2013-14 after adding Jenny McCarthy, but quickly bounced back when Rosie re-joined the following season, and Jenny and Sherrie were fired. For the most of the past ten seasons, it settled into its own once again - had a ratings surge the four seasons McCain was on, and has been the most-watched daytime talk show since then.

WHAT TOOK SO LONG?!?

Good Riddance. Not many celebrities irritate me as much as Jerry O’Connell.

I think it was Enty who once had a blind item about O'Connell saying, he was hoping to turn this gig on "The Talk" into his own daytime talker where he and his wife (Romijn) would be the married hosts mimicking the Kelly & Mark crapfest.

[quote]The Talk was just a cheap alternative to soaps and a way to give Julie her own show.

Agree. It was a cheap program to fill time and promote their other shows, just like The View. They had no choice but to totally change the cast to save face after Sharon. I'm sure they wanted to pull the plug then, but waited some years for most people to forget it happened.

Good, maybe it’s the start of a trend and “The View” will follow suit soon, too.

[quote] The Talk replaced a soap opera, and fourteen years later, it's being replaced by a soap opera.

No, it’s not.

“The View” is a ratings juggernaut in the U.S. and the UK.

“The Gates” isn’t even going to be made.

R65, do tell; everyone is predicting the Gates will replace The Talk; are you saying that won't happen OR are you saying that the Gates won't be a soap opera?

The Gates is in development and Val Jean has signed a deal, but CBS hasn't officially picked it up. For all we know, CBS could do daytime news show like NBC did with Days or something else. Or The Gates might be being developed for Paramount +. Still a lot of unknowns.

Thoughts and prayers.

R69 Of course, they can always change direction mid-way, but in the original press, CBS President Sheila Ducksworth specifically said that The Gates was being developed for broadcast television:

[quote] "This series will salute an audience that has been traditionally underserved, with the potential to be a groundbreaking moment for broadcast television. ... I’m excited to develop this project with CBS and P&G, two of the longest and most passionate champions of broadcast and daytime television, and the NAACP, whose enduring commitment to Black voices and artists is both powerful and inspiring."

[quote] "This series will salute an audience that has been traditionally underserved, with the potential to be a groundbreaking moment for broadcast television.

I'd never miss an episode

What are Joy and Barbara going to do every morning now?

,,,,,

[quote]Good, maybe it’s the start of a trend and “The View” will follow suit soon, too.

"The View" isn't going anywhere.

The Talk played it safe and paid the price.

99% of shows in development don’t happen. “The Gates” is definitely not going to be made.

Supposedly, Jerry O'Connell is worth $20 million and has worked steadily throughout the years. So he's doing okay.

On his new podcast, Steve Kmetko interviews Jerry O'Connell...

To r24's point, Holly Robinson Peete also mentioned Sharon being racist multiple times. CBS did an investigation, and they found YEARS worth of stuff of Sharon being racist. Sharon did herself in by being a trashy racist cunt, and she got exposed in the way she deserved.

And leave Sheryl alone. She spoke her truth and moved on. Plus, you cannot image the trauma from having to work with both Sharon and Julie Chen/Mistress Moonves.

The likelihood that the Gates will happen is maybe 50/50.

But they really need to either find a way to make it cheap like DAYS, or make it a half hour show.

Maybe Miss Underwood will get her own one-hour talk show in this timespot, because who wouldn't want to see her host a show all by herself ?

If they make the Gates cheap, then they could get a green light but then, no one will watch a cheap show.

If they make it too expensive (big names; big sets) then it won't be green lit b/c it's too expensive.

The Gates, if if happens, puts P&G back in suds production - the NAACP connection makes me curious if it could be some sort of financial compensation or offsetting of costs that hasn't been mentioned - but if it were to end up streaming, what else could they load into it (Victoria Rowell and Debbi Morgan best be in that bible's great matriarch pool, but what about Tamara Tunie or Amelia Marshall's past P&G characters - could be totable).

This sounds too Prospect Park-y to have faith in.

R82 They could forego paying Miss Underwood and just have guests talk to one of those chattering teeth wind up toys.

Will Nick Cordero’s widow ever work again?

R83 yes, and the thing that is tricky is that it's supposed to be a wealthy black family at the core.

But the cost of making them look wealthy can be a production challenge. As discovered when Guiding Light went to outdoor shooting and the Spaulding Mansion started to look like a decrepit old Victorian house......

It would be a great time to resurrect Passions.

The only soap I miss.

RIP Timmy.

[quote]What are Joy and Barbara going to do every morning now?

Joy is 81, she'll stay in bed and Barbara will continue dead.

CBS is the only network with an audience old enough to still watch linear television. If you're going to produce a new soap, CBS is where you want to be. But look at Y&R, it's the #1 show but looks so freaking cheap. Even B&B is beginning to look cheap. I'm not sure how Frank Valentini makes GH looks so good.

I want to see this get made, if for no other reason, than to see this huge win for Michele Val Jean.

If this gets made, can they cast Sheryl Underwood to star ? Maybe add Sherri Shepard as her evil twin sister ?

R89, The View was not canceled.

Whoopi and Joy will continue to go to work, and Barbara will continue as the deceased Barbara.

[quote]But look at Y&R, it's the #1 show but looks so freaking cheap. Even B&B is beginning to look cheap. I'm not sure how Frank Valentini makes GH looks so good.

B&B looks cheaper than Y&R does.

Have the hosts acknowledged their cancellation on Friday's show or today's show ?

The main reason why Y&R looks cheap is because they've reduced the number of sets they're using. During COVID, when they started to produce episodes under all the required safety protocols, they had to find some way to absorb the added cost associated with those rules, so they greatly reduced the sets in use, since less sets meant less expense to set up and maintain. But even after those rules were lifted, they've never gone back to having the same number of sets in use pre-COVID, and now, they just do that as another way to cut costs, becoming like a standard operating procedure.

The Abbott living room is more cramped than my 90 year old grandmother’s.

Nicki and Victor's ranch is no better than John and Marlena's penthouse on Days. And they've reduced the size of the Forrester mansion to nothing.

Forrester mansion is looking tattered these days. As is the Forrester Creations set.

But both sets date back to the show's beginning, so they would be 37 years old now.

The Gates is going to series.

Well, R67 didn't age well!

Remind me not to take R67 with me to Vegas when I'm in a gambling mood.

I don't know who the audience is for these chat/talk/view shows filled with old girdled has-beens having a go at "sass" and commentary. Who the fuck watches this shit? Who in this century watches TV programming from major broadcast networks? The dead? The brain dead? And the may as well be? And for what purpose: News? Sparkling wit? Insightful exploration of subject?

Fucking hell, Datalounge is filthy with ancient posters who can move past the 1980s, for whom nothing has happened in a half century, who can't not watch these losers cackle in the middle of the day.

Have a wank or something

Seriously r102! I'm in my forties and have never in my life known a gay man of my generation or younger who has ever watched soaps or The View. DL is the only place I have ever seen where grown men watch soaps and hen fest morning talk shows.

Black man, white man, black woman, white woman.

I'll happily be called out of place because I've watched soaps or talk shows.

I'd much sooner do that than watch any number of visual atrocities like The Housewives of [fill in the blank] or any number of reality shows, or vile things like Dr. Pimple Popper. If that makes me decrepit and out of place, then I wear your insults as a crown of glory.

R102 = Zoomer with sever ADHAD and can't focus on an hour talk show. If only they can put these hour shows on Tik Tok.

Grown men who watch soaps and daytime chatfests are ridiculous.

I don't even know any who watch the Today show etc.

[quote]I'd much sooner do that than watch any number of visual atrocities like The Housewives of [fill in the blank] or any number of reality shows, or vile things like Dr. Pimple Popper. If that makes me decrepit and out of place, then I wear your insults as a crown of glory.

Those shows are also shit, and not much better than soaps.

I can't imagine having such a limited world view as to not understand that things may be somewhat different outside of your limited bubble.

Soaps are for simpletons.

[quote]Fucking hell, Datalounge is filthy with ancient posters who can move past the 1980s,

The consensus is that the world stopped turning for them circa 1990-ish. Numerous examples of how totally clueless they are about life in modern times.

I like what I like and give no fucks whatsoever what people think.

It's interesting that there is a new soap coming. Wouldn't have thought there was any money to be made in it but CBS thinks otherwise.

R103 Thoughts and prayers go out to you.

r113 get a life. Go outside and leave your hovel for awhile.

R114 Get off Tik Tok and get out of your bubble.

And yet almost every new drama that gets any kind of audience share or popular buzz these days is a serialized drama.

^^But it ain't a soap gramps.

These youngsters and their newfangled TikTok godammit! They don't know how good it is to sit down and watch the stories on daytime tv.

If it weren't for DL I would have no idea soaps were still on the air. I would've just assumed, like most grown men, that they were all cancelled in the 1990s.

[quote]Get off Tik Tok and get out of your bubble.

That's funny, coming from a demographic who watches endless marathons of tv shows from five decades ago.

[quote] That's funny, coming from a demographic who watches endless marathons of tv shows from five decades ago.

Yet we know better not to eat Tide pods.

Anyhoo.....

Will The Gates feature a black male character on the downlow?

We haven't seen that since late era Passions ca. 2007.

[quote] If it weren't for DL I would have no idea soaps were still on the air. I would've just assumed, like most grown men, that they were all cancelled in the 1990s.

Do you think you deserve to be looked up to? You sound like someone whose head is up their own ass. Not impressive.

Will a black soap opera use these or substitute with police sirens?

There are plenty of black soaps already, thanks to Tyler Perry.

Seems like it would make more sense to do a Hispanic-themed some, since that audience is so accustomed to telenovelas. Do one for the English-speaking second generation Latino community.

some=soap.

[quote]There are plenty of black soaps already, thanks to Tyler Perry.

Let's hope that The Gates is a step up from the dreck Perry churns out.

R126 not to mention, the Hispanic population is a lot bigger.

[quote]Good Riddance. Not many celebrities irritate me as much as Jerry O’Connell.

How come?

I also find O'Connell very irritating. I rarely watched The Squawk, but when I have seen it during his run, the faces he makes and his mugging for the camera made me turn it off as soon as the segment I was somewhat interested in was over. I find his shtick unwatchable. I mean, the eyebrows alone are bad enough.

R131 He's a 55-60 year old man acting like an over the top parody of the cool dad stereotype. Almost reminiscent of Miss Dylan Mulvaney and her hyper theatrics.

R131, His brother Charlie is much hotter.

Today, the hosts were nominated for a Daytime Emmy, but the show itself did not garner a nom.

The Talk played it safe and failed to get eyeballs, as a result.

The best cast was Julie, Aisha, Sharon, Melissa, and Sheryl.

I have no idea who those four people are, OP, and I don't believe I've ever seen that program.

Adios "The Talk" I can't say I'll miss you.

Starting in January, 2025 Judy Scheindlin will be distributing her Amazon /Freevee streamer "Judy Justice" (which is currently in its third season) to linear television. It's been said CBS (which owns her syndicated 'Judge Judy' series) is considering replacing 'The Talk' with 'Judy Justice', but it's up to what they can do with the 'Judge Judy' library they bought from her a few years ago. They are currently negotiating, according to 'sources'.

[quote] replacing 'The Talk' with 'Judy Justice',

So no real improvement in daytime television

R138 Higher ratings for CBS, and that's all that matters. Got to pull in those advertising dollars.

Isn't Judge Judy about 112 years old by now? I had no idea she was still doing a tv show.

I think if they do pick up Judy Justice, it will be a syndication buy for the stations CBS owns.

The Talk’s time slot is going to the new soap.

It was already announced three months ago that "Judy Justice" has a syndication deal in place and will begin airing in 100 broadcast television markets in Fall 2024. .. Saying it's "replacing "The Talk" isn't really possible, since "The Talk" is a network show, and "Judy Justice" (just like "Judge Judy") is a syndicated show.

And if you're talking about "replacing" a show due to the time of day it's going to air, then there's uniformity there. Affiliates can fiddle around with the daytime schedule. The Talk doesn't air at the same hour in every market, just like Judge Judy didn't. In some markets, the network-owned LMAD airs in the morning,: in others it's in the afternoon. In some markets, Y&R follows TPIR; while in others a local show is wedged in between them; the same thing occurs with Y&R and B&B.

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And if you're talking about "replacing" a show due to the time of day it's going to air, then there's no uniformity there.