Heartstopper

In honor of season 3.

Jonathan wears it the best imo but all hot.

Jonathan's is the worst. The top looks sloppy and the shoes are terrible.

I'll admit I don't get it: there's enough to discuss about the show in-universe that I really don't understand the obsession with going after the actors and playing them against each other or tearing one or the other down or whatever. I love the show, and am just thankful for everyone involved for bringing it to the screen.

R4 It’s driven by resentment about external issues. Some of the fans take it out on the guy that isn’t their favorite when they’re both really close. It’s a whole mess.

Roll on Sunday 7.40pm BST Channel 4. Just hope we get a lot of Joe content. I really like the mix of people he's competing with.

R5 Only ones resentful are Joe stans.

I thought the admins of DJL weren’t like most Joe stans but oh well.

Does this show drop one episode a week, or all episodes at once? I need to know how to schedule my fall for season 3...

R9 They’ve all dropped at once for the previous 2 seasons.

R9 Season 3 will be exciting. It’s going to focus on Charlie’s mental health and showcase the boys in a more mature way as they navigate their relationship. Here’s the announcement for the new season.

R8 The Joe stans keep trying to lay claim on the polo shirt because of that bitter comment Joe left saying he wOrE iT FiRsT.

Nobody cares.

>I’m sure you already guessed that Jonathan is wearing the embellished Loewe polo shirt from the Spring 2024 collection which we first saw on Kit Connor back in September for the Vogue World Party.

This show really should do one season every six months. Every year is too infrequently.

R13 We’re lucky they’re putting out 3 seasons in 3 years honestly. Nowadays, it’s rare to have more than 2 seasons of an original tv show The creator of the show is hoping for a season 4 as a final season.

R13 A season a year seems pretty balanced to me, gives the cast time to do other things in between so they don’t become resentful of the show.

Thanks, R10.

Love the Laufey video featuring Will G

Joe back home soon

For the people not in the private group. Some good gossip about Joe’s next roles. I would love to see Joe at the West End.

R19 That’s very interesting. He still has that connection with Eric Khan so if something is in the works, I’m sure he would be considered. I wonder if he’ll have the time with his Marvel contract.

That connection is called a friendship.

R21 Didn’t even go there so you’re reading too much into it.

GrahamNorton and Joe followed each other. I think Graham saw ST

Hopefully he will get Joe and Kin on his talk show

R19 thanks for the heads up

It’s horrid being out of the loop

R23 That would be fun and I could also see Joe and the Agatha cast go on.

R23 some posted on X that her husband saw Graham in the toilets at ST

That's amazing. Really proud of Kit for this.

[19] Thanks for sharing the info and thinking of us!

R28 No problem. Joe’s episode of The Great British Bake Off is this Sunday, 7:40 p.m UK time. If you guys get a VPN you’ll be able yo watch from anywhere. It’s on Channel 4, online. Free.

Did the rating change?

R30 Mine is still showing the old one.

It’s starting to change for some people. I have the new one.

"Sex scenes"? Is that a hint at what's coming up in season 3, because there certainly were no "sex scenes" in seasons 1 and 2...

In fact, the show as a whole was incredibly "wholesome" (to the point of maybe being unrealistically so).

R33 Yeah. The show is based on comic books of the same name. They have their first time in Vol.5 which will be in season 3. It’s still very wholesome.

Crazy how this thread is so calm and civilized without certain people. Almost like one group of fans were the problem.

It’s not calm and civilized, it’s dead.

R36 It’s not dead, it’s slower than usual perhaps because the remaining posters have lives outside this site?

There are no rational Kit fans here either

R37 There has been a bunch of stuff worth posting that no one’s posted for days so no, it’s dead.

R39 Lol it’s “dead” but your comment hS 6 WWs. Sure.

R38 It’s clear there were never any real Kit stans in here.

R40 WWs don’t mean shit when nothing is being posted.

No one has bothered to post any of the new Warfare observations, or the new pictures of Joe on Bake Off, or any of the new gossip. It's not worth it. The thread was completely silent for 9 hours and the douchebag devil's advocate still found a way to be a douchebag.

>Through the mess, only the likeable Chandran retains her dignity

R38 R41 Fuck off.

R44 Hating Bash won’t make Joe more attractive. I’m afraid it’s the opposite.

R43 If the thread is so dead why are you still camping here? Fuck off

For the remaining guys in here: there isn’t any new gossip. Civil War is receiving some bad reviews but it’s mostly from a marketing mistake. They advertised the film as a war film with lots of action scenes and turns out it’s not like that at all. Joe on British Bake Off tonight and Wasia on tour with Laufey. Minor “gossip” Bash said in an interview that he made an escape room for a previous partner and all his fans started to say Bash is the best boyfriend in the world. YMMV on that.

R48 Lol wut? Civil War has a bunch of war action scenes (the ending?) & they're being praised as standouts. It's certified fresh on RT & the criticism is from American babies that need to be spoonfed good sides and bad side & don't like that they're being forced to provide their own context.

Bash's last 2 movies have a 38% and 25% on RT. Sad!

Kit’s haters started a new rumor that he’s sleeping with Elton. It’s all over latintwt.

R51 Ironic bc Joe is the one with an old sugar daddy.

R50 Bash looks so cute. He’s always been adorable. Thanks for sharing.

Tobie went to the Challengers screening but no sign of Kit. No idea what’s going on with Kit and what he’s doing. Maybe prepping for the Warfare film.

R46 Camping in a thread about a show that your fav was fired from is not going to make him more employed or less of a laughing stock fwiw

Charlie's first boyfriend really resonated with me... a guy who just wants to use you and control you for himself on his terms describes almost every relationship I've ever managed to get myself into. It's one of the reasons I stopped dating entirely... I seem to attract that type, and worse, I seem to fall for it every fucking time. I'm really glad they explored that, and I almost stood up and cheered when Charlie ripped into him at the end of season two when he came back trying to apologize. Seeing Charlie stand up to him like that made me wish I had done the same. Too late now.

R55 You can't write a cogent sentence to save your life.

Thank you to those who do bring news over here and share

I have been so busy I haven’t had time to check ig or general gossip

Love gossip, love speculation and LOVE the detectives who find the juicy stuff

Really appreciate you all

Joe on bake off soon - yay!!!!

Lmao.

What's up with the fraus minds? Why they are so passive-agressive about Kit? Why are they all sucking up to Tobie? I guess they just hate whoever is more attractive and successful than Joe.

Weirdest fandom. They care more about Joe and Tobie than Kit and Joe. They always have some weird comments to make about Kit. Vicky and her crew are strangely the only sane ones.

UNIBROW FUG IS ON CELEBERITY (HA) BAKEOFF THIS WEEK.

I'll give season 3 a go, but season 2 wasn't as good as season 1, so if the downward trend continues that'll probably be it for me.

We wanted a Ben Hope redemption arc, too.

I actually can’t understand even the trolling on here anymore. Just rename it the Bash thread and all live happily being toxic.

R63 I might have wanted a redemption arc if the actor was stronger, but any more time spent on him would’ve been a waste of time. It’s bad enough that we’re going to have to sit through Imogen’s gay awakening.

R60 Tobie is fat and unassuming so he can't overshadow Joe. Kit can and does. It is obvious.

R63 What didn’t you like about S2?

R60 but how is it passive aggressive about Kit to want to see Joe and Tobie together again when Tobie wrote “i miss you” on his story”? Are you really so sensitive?

R60 failing to see how that's passive aggressive against Kit unless you think a fan liking Joe and someone who isn't Kit is a slight against Kit. Werido

R69 You're failing to see a lot of things, moron. I wouldn't talk about matters I don't understand if I were you. R68 That's just how that fandom operates.

R70 but I briefly looked at this person’s account and there is nothing to indicate she’s deeply in the “fandom”. This seems an extremely innocuous tweet to upset you and that other poster so much

Girl if it was a Kit story about Joe and the person said something about Tobie then it would be passive aggressive. Tobie posted a story, a fan said they missed them together. Stop being so fucking sensitive.

R72 Joe stans acussing anyone of being sensitive, LMAO. DIdn't u ppl make a super secret reddit to circle jerk @?

R73 that is a group that is evenly distributed between Kit and Joe stans, which is why the only Kit stan here is that lonely aggressive one. I’ve never seen anyone so salty about a reddit sub. Didn’t you get what you wanted?

R73 Super secret club where Kit stans post lots of information about him we'll never share with you, yes

R75 Sure, we totally believe you.

R76 who is “we”?

R77 Her and her 5 personalities/accounts

R77 Girl, the posters here. Go to that secret group if you want to display your symptoms of idiocy.

R75 Congratulations?

What posters here. There's you, your multiple accounts, the devil's advocate cunt, and the psycho Kit fan left

R79 on review there is you and the extremely angry Kit stan (who I think might just hate Joe) and a couple of people who pop by to see if anything has happened. Also the nice new Elder who has just watched the show and has unfortunately found the thread at a time it’s dead. You killed the thread, aren’t you happy?

I made this thread and I'm not any of those people, you can all kindly fuck off. Joe looks great here. I love his outfit.

R82 The only ones complaining about the thread being dead are the ones that left for the subgroup. Not sure why you're coming back here to whine about the thread.

R83 Yeah, you are. Figure out which one.

R85 I don't give a single fuck what you think, mate. I made the thread. You can fuck right off.

Ben Hope as a character is toxic. Most toxic guys like him don't ever redeem themselves. The last thing I want is a completely unrealistic, unnecessary "redemption arc" for that character.

Some of us stayed and didn’t join the Reddit group and are normal, but keep erasing us I guess.

I rly doubt there are any Kit fans in that reddit.

If there are they won't last long.

R89 there are plenty.

The level of defensiveness from a thread that is almost silent for days and misses most of the gossip is funny. We drop by to see if anyone has found anything we haven’t only to find it’s 90% posts about perceived slights against Kit on Twitter, or that have been entirely fabricated.

R90 There's no defensiveness. We don't care what you guys think. You left the thread so just go? People here ignore the trolls and move on to other things.

Joe on Bake off. He did really good and he’s insanely charming and cute as usual.

R83 please keep making threads and bringing news

Love that Joe messaged Patti and that she said she was honoured that he baked her

Please keep posting, all regular sane people.

I really miss the deep dive people who know where to look for all the really juicy gossip , but get that this move to a private place was ultimately to protect our faves

Kills me that we cannot talk about their private life esp since knowing about Joes boyfriend

Are they even still together ?

What is Kit up to ? Has he been spotted ? Did he go to Edinburgh for Will A play ?

Has Tobie got any projects ? Corinna ? Will there be a season 3 premiere ? Will there be a season 4 ?

Hopefully I can search myself for more info when work stops kicking my ass

R94 Some actors from the Warfare film are starting to sport the buzzcut look. Kit might be preparing for the movie. He skipped the Challengers screening which is a big indicator that he’s busy. He didn’t like Joe’s recent post or Will’s. No clue for Joe but we’ll know more in 2-3 weeks I think. Corinna was at a West End gala recently. No clue what Tobie is up to. Some fans think they will announce S3 news on the 22 of April because it’s the anniversary of the release of the show.

Also Yaz is partying and having fun. I’m not sure if she will be back for Doctor Who season 2. Wasia booked a cool festival and they’ll be performing alongside Mitski.

Thank you guys for the updates, I really appreciate it . I think a buzz cut would really suit Kit. His face is so gorgeous and his skin glowing, he could def pull it off

Missing Challengers premiere shows he is busy

Or taking a vacation somwhwere amazing before shooting the movie starts maybe

Sara Cox briefly talked about Joe on her radio show . She said her kids are obsessed with Herststopper.

Same, kids, same .

Kit and Rachel Zegler are playing Romeo and Juliet in something, both teased on Instagram.

R99 Yes, incredible news. I’m guessing a play on Broadway.

They are already making the news without an official announcement.

Such exciting news guys , wow .

Hope west end run as well as broadway

Manifesting !

Could it be a new R&J film do you think ?

R103 Unlikely. They don’t make these kind of joint announcement for a film.

Very excited for all the good news The r+j thing doesn’t look like the west end adaption though doubt it is the broadway transfer for that

Actually, never mind. Good bit if gossip. Could go either way (movie or play)

Pop base tweeted.

That’s so interesting. It’ll be fascinating to see how they adapt the story. I just know Rachel and kit will kill it

Of course, Joe didn’t like Kit’s post announcement. Who is shocked? It’s just sad atp

I cannot fathom how those two actors can have such amazing chemistry on screen and read those lines to each other, and spend so much time holding each other and kissing, and NOT fall in love in real life. That's some professionalism and some amazing acting right there. And the casting director... who managed to find two guys who had so much amazing chemistry with each other too.

I'm glad there's no "drama" between the actors in real life. And I cannot wait for season 3.

R109 Alice, Will, Rhea and Kizzy must hate him too!

R111 Will isn’t online like Joe and it’s not the first time Joe skipped an important announcement from Kit but sure, you can play dumb.

19k likes for some vague pictures.

R112 Will liked Joe's post yesterday that Kit ignored.

R114 Kit is working dear. Doesn’t change the fact that Kit went to see Joe’s play and liked his play announcement the second it dropped.

R115 Kit is working, but Joe apparently is doing nothing and has to look at his phone constantly and immediately like Kit's posts or he's a cunt and a shitty friend. Your continued insistence on one standard for everyone else that isn't Joe remains funny

R117 And Joe liked it btw

R117 But what is the standard? You’re arguing that but it makes 0 sense because Joe does nothing and isn’t criticized for it by the fandom.

R118 Clearly read the thread

R119 Wil didn't like Kit's post because he's busy. Kit didn't like Joe's post because he's busy. Joe didn't like it because he's a cunt who doesn't support Kit. The idea that Kit is so heavily criticized by the fandom while Joe is not is fucking laughable.

And what the fuck are you even going on about. You jumped the gun on whining about Joe not liking it. Neither are required to like posts the second they post them and neither are required to watch a story and go to another page to like the casting announcement they didn't post on their grid.

R118 Joe liked Rachel's post as well, which not everyone liking Kit's has done. Makes me think Joe/Kit/Tobie might have discussed it in NY.

R121 Please, relax. You compare them but Kit is far far more supportive of Joe. Him not liking one post means nothing. Joe isn’t on that level.

It explains Kit popping up at this, Sam Gold is the director.

R123 They are both equally supportive of each other.

And again, Kit can skip a Joe post, nbd, Joe's not on the level for Kit to care about liking his posts, but Joe takes a couple of hours to like a post he's terrible. Fuck off

R125 Really aren’t. If Joe flies out go see Kit’s play then you’ll have an argument.

I love that some of you forget that they’re actual, real life friends and Joe’s probably know about this for months and they probably celebrated the news already.

Sure

Some of you seem less mature than any of the characters in the TV show.

R129 Some of you = Joe stans who left the thread

For the curious: Joe, Alice, Jenny, Tobie, Maia liked Kit’s post.

R131 Not Heartstopper, but Ayo Edebiri liked both of their posts.

Dug this up because of Kit mentioning that he's a fan of Love Story, TS's Romeo and Juliet song.

R126 Bestie Joe hasn't had a chance to fly to see Kit yet, but 100% chance he will and you'll move the goal posts and find some other reason Joe is a terrible and Kit's a saint

R134 What’s the current goal post? Never singling out Kit in interviews, liking every other Kit post while constantly praising Patti, Olivia and Dylan publicly? You’re the one up in your feels over it. No one said Joe was evil.

R110 I know what you mean but TZP from RWRB posted a behind the scenes pic of himself and Nick doing a snogging scene and there’s just all this crew around them and I though “THAT is how they don’t fall in love” lmao

R136 It’s usually the ones with shitty chemistry on screen

R136 Well, Joe and Bash fell in love while playing a couple (albeit a toxic one). Kit and Maia had their moment too. It happens more often than people think.

[quote]For the curious: Joe, Alice, Jenny, Tobie, Maia liked Kit’s post.

Who the fuck cares, and why the hell are any of you hanging so much off of such minutiae and such meaningless drivel?

R139 Thanks for the riveting comment.

R139 You were more entertaining when you were crying about how you're miserable and are going to die alone.

Anyway, really excited for Kit. Glad all of the times he talked about wanting to do Shakespeare panned out. Guy at R116 mentioned in his comment section that there'll be singing, Kit must be splitting his time between vocal training and Warfare training right now.

There’s an Instagram account now, confirms it’s in NYC.

R140, R141, you think obsessing over what actor "liked" or "didn't like" someone else's insta post is ... sane?

Jesus christ. I may wonder what the fuck is wrong with me, but I have no fucking CLUE what the fuck is wrong with you that you even THINK about such stupid meaningless crap.

R131 thanks , definitely interested in the minutiae and ALL the details

Also catching up, Jamie Lloyd and Sam Gold having R&J productions so close is amazing . Both so talented with fresh ideas and a new outlook.

@sweatyoracel seems legit so Broadway seems likely but maybe a very limited run

I was aghast when you guys said people in NYC film from the audience as it doesn’t happen yet in London m but since we got so much Joe content on Broadway and hopefully loads of Kit on Broadway content too

[quote] Kills me that we cannot talk about their private life esp since knowing about Joes boyfriend

Wait, we can't talk about their private lives? Even here at Datalounge, of all places...???!!!

Is the troll on ig the same as the one here, because I’m getting fucking 2nd hand embarrassment! Their comments are so juvenile it’s so cringey. I hope they get exposed one day bc they are totally mentally deranged, and need an intervention of some sort. the level of obsession is comical. It’s pathetic and on ig it’s probably the saddest cry for help I’ve ever seen! Also their biggest slight against Joe is he sucks big dicks… I mean… nothing wrong with that!!!

R146. We are protecting Joe as his bf is questionable

There is a private group to chat about this as the trolls on here could make things tricky for Joe and we love him

I don’t know who to message on Reddit to chat about all the juicy gossip which we hide from the crazies, even though I know the name of Joes bf

Dying for some gossip on Kit, even retrospectively , I love hearing theories about Sof and Maia and Conan ……

Also @romeojulietnyc on ig is followed by Kit now

It was followed by Kit when I posted it last night, that’s how the account was found.

Acc. to the Joe fans Kit is a seat warmer & he's copying Joe by doing Bway.

R148 You’re not protecting Joe of anything.

R151 Kit is actually leading and starting in an original play. Joe was a replacement. Not the same.

First picture.

R154 sometimes I hate being British. This is one of those moments

It’s happening!!! Kit on Broadway!!! This Fall!

Website now active.

Playbill article

R151 R153 Fuck off

Funny how they don’t have that tune when it’s Kit that gets shit on by Joe stans.

Kit and Joe have had an insane career trajectory so far.

R161 it’s actually insane. Kit and Rachel are technically originating the roles so they could be eligible for a Tony award. Like these boys are literally the faces of this generation of acting

Still so excited

Big theatre fan here but based in London

Need dates ASAP

Joe followed Rachel on Instagram again and posted/commented about the announcement.

And Joe posted a story with the image of K and R with HOT caption

Both so supportive

Love them so much

R164 Sorry I didn't see your comment ..... repeating everything today

I see enemy of the people ends on Sunday 23rd June in NYC at Circle in the Square theatre

I guess they may squeeze in something before R&J

Will they rehearse/workshop there or elsewhere? I would imagine it would take at least a few months. Since Kit will be filming until at least the end of June that means workshop begins around July with a late August release.

Also, since it has a "limited run", does this mean 8 or 12 weeks?

R168 12 to 14 weeks

S4 could technically be filmed in July-September but it doesn’t look like they have a go or that Alice is done with the script.

R170 I suspect the S4 renewal will be announced this year but won't be filmed this year, unless at the end of 2024 bleeding into 2025. It might be a nice full circle moment if they do film earlier in the year to match the S1 timeline in 2021.

R171 Like in April to June 2025? That would push the release of S4 in 2026

Will keeps killing it. Really exciting for all of them. They have a packed year. Excited to know what Joe is doing next.

R173 endlessly amazed by will and wasia project

I applaud Kit’s career choices. He’s not really relying on any existing successful franchise or successful productions. He’s making bold decisions with this play and his movie roles. He’s not leaning on any preexisting success factors. That’s hard because a lot of criticism will fall on his shoulders.

Kit and Rachel.

R175 The girls are going to have to let the Hulkling dream go.

Kit needs to get into better shape. The hate tweets are already rolling out. Can't be hanging out with Tobie all the time.

R178 What happened to wanting to keep the thread civilized, u dumb cunt?

R179 I actually care about Kit that's why I'm saying it. You lot would rather he gets hate tweets? Weird.

Everyone on earth gets hate tweets no matter what they do or what they look like, shut the fuck up.

R181 Of course a Joe stan would say this. You guys have been praying for Kit's downfall.

R175 sure Shakespeare and Romeo been a total flop since the 1600s

R183 Indie King Kit doing the obscure play Romeo and Juliet with music by the guy who works with little known indie artist Taylor Swift

R184 A new original revivial. Do you know what New and Original mean? It means Kit and Rachel will be the first ones to lead this production. They don't know if it will be successful and they have to worry about another revival of the same play with a more famous cast.

R181 context?

Joe saw a play with his Sweeney costar. Is Nathan gay/single? He's cute.

R188 Interesting. He didn't follow Tobie and Kit?

Nathan did not follow Tobie or Kit. Joe, Cori, and Lelia are the only HS cast members Nathan follows.

Joe had an understudy because he was sick one day towards the end of Kobie’s visit. And we now know Kit was actually working on R+J stuff while he was in NYC. So my guess is they didn’t have much time to socialize and meet Joe’s new friends.

R189 I think Kit only really spent time with Joe (they were spotted at Stonewall by guys on Twitter, the picture Joe posted of them crossing the street, the person that took the picture with Kit/Tobie and said Joe was inside, and we know they saw Kimberly Akimbo together). He also did Romeo + Juliet stuff. And he met Jordan Fisher (at Hadestown I'd assumed, but maybe he's involved in R+J?). Tobie I assume tagged along with Kit.

R193 Not sure how much he is in the picture and I don't care enough to know. Joe is still doing things with his friends and being very self-sufficient which I like. I can't imagine he will last that long once Joe is back in IOM and London.

I like how the guys are forming new bonds with other performers outside of Heartstopper. It is healthy to see them step away from their small group. Still think they will always be close though.

Convinced that some people are camped out on here 24/7 because they're so fucking condescending and stupid that nobody can tolerate them in real life.

R195 Agreed

R197 It’s especially funny when you can recognize her without having to check her posting history.

R197 That's you right?

Love when a hit dog hollers.

Love when fraus that claimed they were leaving come crawling back.

R201 Like you said, she’s stupid.

R202 The only person who has constantly said they'd leave is you and yet you stay because you have nobody else to talk to

Most gay guys I know date older.

R204 Is the private group too dry? Yikes.

Young bottoms sometimes need masterful experienced tops, I don't judge.

R207 Right. DL is just not the place for you if you’re triggered by that.

It was the late 70s when I was their ages (Nick and Charlie). I could only dream of being out then... as it was, the fact that I wasn't in a team sport made me the butt of 'fag' jokes, and the fact that I was in Band just amplified that. It was abusive and difficult enough (non-stop). If they had known for SURE that I really liked dick and dreams of kissing boys, I literally -- and I mean LITERALLY literally not "figurative" literally -- would have feared for my life. As it was, my parents' house was egged and routinely vandalized. We would have had to move if anyone knew for sure.

As I watched this thing, I was intensely envious of the characters. Yes, they had their difficulties, and I understand things can still be very hard for kids coming out and coming to terms with their sexuality. I'm sure the existence of "apps" beyond just texting and Insta make it even harder. But it's also WAY easier than I what I and most people of my generation went through. I'm so GLAD something like this exists now. I hope to see more of this.

There was a long time when there just weren't any "gay" stories. And then when there were, they were always TRAGIC or cautionary tales. Then you had a few sexless comic relief types. And clowns. It's amazing now that you get lots of real life stories, with gay people of all types, INCLUDING the "boy next door" and "athletic" types. And just regular nerds. They aren't ALL queens or extreme stereotypes. Or tragic suicidal shame-filled tortured souls. There's a place for all of that, of course, but I'm just glad there's now breathing room for the kind of gay people I can more easily relate to.

And I just love the sweetness of it. The innocence of it.

I mean, I'm sure some of you with your stellar personalities and wit make do with whatever top you dig up that is willing to degrade himself into sticking it in, but I'm personally not into guys that look like they're constantly craving cheese and are on the brink of developing skin cancer so I'll talk shit and hope for better for him next time.

R209 It’s very sweet. I love that a gay character gets to be the main guy. I love that their only obstacle is coming out. It’s cheesy and unrealistic but also it’s healing for my younger self and many others like you. I am excited to see what they do with season 3.

Exactly, R212. Thank you.

And there are other obstacles than just "coming out"... beyond working through their own individual feelings and then dealing with family and friends and teachers and such, we have Charlie's eating disorder being something Nick is going to have to work through next season... there are still minefields ahead.

I'm just happy none of those problems are death threats, suicide, physical beatings, being abandoned by family and friends, abused by teachers, and all the things people from my generation and earlier had to deal with. It's progress!

R210 While you hope for the better your judgmental cunty ass is only shading Joe.

R214 You don't get to be the arbitrer of what is and isn't shady towards Joe (pro-tip: hoping for better is not shading him, everyone makes youthful mistakes) when a couple of hours ago you were leaving unsubtle comments about Kit's career choices to be a cunt about Joe's.

R215 I’m talking about your judgements on gay men dating older. Happens a lot.

R217 Ask to join the Reddit group. They will discuss the guys and their sex lives et nauseum.

Yaz did her permit. No more chauffeurs?

Sure but why don’t they start swinging at the biphobes like Mary and her crew? They’ve been harassing Kit again and it’s quiet from those useless idiots.

Possibly Joe’s next role.

Is the actor who plays the trans girl trans in real life?

Because she's really convincing as a girl.

R222 Yaz? Yes, she's also in Doctor Who - waiting to see if she's in the new series which is about to start of if it was just the specials. I really liked her in Doctor Who.

R223 She’s in the new series, she’s popped up in at least 2 of the trailers.

R222 what the actual fuck?

R225 it took me three episodes to realise she isn't a cis girl pretending to be trans. Maybe it's a generational thing. I don't see why you have a problem with R222 unless I'm missing some reference somewhere?

R227 it’s so endearing to me how he’s so shy on camera. Chronically online Rachel and chronically offline kit is a fantastic duo

R227 Kit seems anxious

R229 Kit’s always said that he’s anxious when he’s himself and it’s easier to lose himself in playing someone else.

No idea which post this is but Joe’s bootleg is getting some amazing feedback and reactions. I wish I could see him perform!

Joe tonight looking good. Will miss all the content we’ve been getting.

R231 That decrepit Luke Adams guy that left the comment about Kit being vers posted it.

R233 They need a restraining order from that guy.

R230 When did he say that? I cannot find in anywhere.

R235 Towards the end of this interview.

Ah, ty.

Possible dates for the Rome+Juliet play!

R239 So maybe October previews/November opening?

R239 That’s what I’m thinking but it’s literally clashing with Heartstopper promo.

R240 Since Joe will likely be in NYC at some point for Agatha promo, they'll probably be able to do Heartstopper promo too, just in America instead of the UK. Most press is filmed in the weeks leading up to the release date instead of the same week as the release date, though we don't yet know the exact S3 release date in October.

The main unknown is if they'll do a UK premiere that Joe and Kit can attend. I'd guess in September.

Will also point out that we've seen Joe do promo while doing Sweeney, including in-depth interviews and photoshoots like Flaunt. Even if you want to split hairs that he isn't the lead of Sweeney, Aaaron and Sutton have done promo as well. Broadway is busy work but they still have days off that will sometimes be used for other commitments. On top of HS: Kit will have The Wild Robot, Joe will have Agatha.

It's also possible they'll do some promo in the UK in the summer before Kit leaves. Pride, Netflix Tudum (the latter would probably be pre-recorded), maybe another photoshoot or two like Teen Vogue and NYT from last year.

Netflix is lucky as fuck. The visibility Joe (Agatha) and Kit (Romeo and Juliet/The Wild Robot) are going to have around the premiere is going to be wild. A Kit and Rachel spread in American Vogue is an inevitability, for one. But yeah, there should be some time in there where Netflix could do the opposite of what they did last season and fly Joe out this time. There should be a "slower" period around the end of September or beginning of October, once Joe's done with the bulk of Agatha press and Kit's in rehearsals and the show hasn't opened yet. They should also have some time in July to prerecord stuff. If Joe's in Vision Quest, that's supposed to go into production in October so it should still hypothetically work out.

R243 You reminded me that I made this Romeo and Juliet joke back in February. Fuck.

R244 Bach when the thread was decent

R243 Agatha is not a guaranteed success and Joe isn't the lead. Joe and Kit are lucky to have heartstopper.

R246 Do you have to consciously think about breathing?

R247 This is the weakest shade I think I ever read. I'm not even sure what triggered you.

R248 It's because as per usual, you're a fucking moron and replied to me about something that wasn't even part of my point because of your obsessive hatred of Joe. I said that Netflix is lucky as shit because they're going to get free publicity while the guys promote various unrelated projects on other production companies's dimes. It had absolutely nothing to do with either of them being too good for Netflix or about the size of Joe's role or the likelihood of Agatha being successful.

R249 She’s nothing if not consistently idiotic.

R249 Again, what is so triggering for you? Agatha possibly not being successful? Is that it? Bash's movie wasn't a success and his fans aren't bothered. Why are you so bothered? Well, if everyone is a 'moron' and you can't handle a conversation with different opinions, why are you here?

R250 Actually, there's nothing more idiotic than thinking Agatha promo will generate aything for Netflix.

R250 Shit for brains, truly. Struggles with the basic concept of visibility and promotion, struggles with basic reading comprehension, etc.

>Bash's movie wasn't a success and his fans aren't bothered.

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Kit stans that are laughing at Bash should worry about the fact that Kit’s frau fans are setting him up for hate. That boy will have a breakdown soon. He has no one in his corner who actually looks out for him

23 likes, it’s over for Kit.

R256 That’s how it starts. He’s entering an important phase of his career, he should be focused on looking his best and instead he’s looking a mess. Hopefully for him he doesn’t go to the Met this year because he will be read for filth. And I don’t wanna hear anything from the twink-crazies Joe stans. You would have a heart attack if Joe gained weight.

R257 Retard

R258 Five grade insult by an anonymous poster. How will I survive

R257 as a fan of Sebastian Croft you are just setting yourself with this comment

R260 It’s the truth and if you were a real gay man you would know how catty the community can get.

R261 what a bizarre response

R257 Gen Z is a bit more casual for most outings. And contrary to popular belief, many celebrities across the board to not play "dress up" unless they don't have to. It is tiring keeping up with fashion as well as very expensive.

He looks great when it counts, but probably try to look more normal when just out and about, or at a rehearsal, or hanging with friends.

And before you come at me about "that is not how gay men like to look when out" - Jonathan Groff, Russel Tovey, Luke Evans, Lee Pace, etc only dress up when it is important. They are ALWAYS casual when they are hanging out friends, seeing a West End/Broadway show, wandering around London/NYC/LA. Plus Kit was probably at a rehearsal when those videos were taken. They looked like they were spur of the moment. Not sure if you have ever been to a rehearsal but he looks normal and she looks too dressy for it.

Unless they are wearing some form of costume, then she looks great.

Why is a thread about such a sweet and caring show so vitriolic and nasty?

Crazy.

The world is their oyster.

Venue change due to demand?

Love the description for the show:

'An angrier take on the Shakespearean tale of love, where an impulsive pair of star-crossed lovers hurtle towards their inescapable fate in their parents’ world where everyone ultimately meets their own violent ends.'

R266. Great manifestation powers from our faves

They are killing it. Love them both so much

Joe stans will have a meltdown with all this Kit and Rachel content. They’re already tweaking trying to make it about Joe.

Interesting

Hstwt lurkers who are left, y’all should explore why you are so much more comfortable about Kit with a woman than a man. It’s getting glaringly homophobic

R271 she is the opposite of a Joe stan. Literally no hstwt stans are bigger cunts about Joe than her, her mate Isa and Jess. They are very clearly Kit stans who have temporarily swapped to Joe while he was on Broadway (while constantly shitting on him) and wanting Joe to be a secondary character in Kit’s show could not make that clearer

R274 She’s not the only one. They complained when fans wanted Kit as hulking and mind you that was way before Joe was in Marvel and now they do this shit

R275 there is no world in which you are a fan of someone and you would like them to take a secondary character role to their current screen partner. You are basically an anti

R276 Look at that person’s page and you’ll see they are a Joe fan. You’re just incredibly dense bc you think a secondary role is beneath Joe.

R277 I very obviously don’t as he currently having an amazing run in a secondary role. He would be crazy to take on one in a project Kit is leading and any “fan” who says he should is clearly a fan on Kit’s only. No Kit fan would want him in a secondary role in a project of Joe’s

More kit and Rachel content dropped …….. quotes ……..is it Shakespeare or Taylor swift

Wish I knew how to link

Hopeless

Linked in the post above mine

Double hopeless

R278 Why would a Kit stan want Joe in one of the Kit's big project where he is leading? You make no sense at all.

R287 that’s very clearly not what I wrote.

R283 'any “fan” who says he should is clearly a fan on Kit’s only'

You guys forget that not everyone is a fan that keeps score. Some are normal fans that would love to see two actor they enjoy together continuing to work together and don’t overthink who is lead and who is supporting and if one will come off better than the other. That being said, didn’t Joe only name musical parts when Jesse Tyler Ferguson asked him about dream roles? He seems pretty set in that lane while Kit seems more into plays.

R279 They're nailing the promo. Kit's arms are so hot and his self-satisfaction at the pun he made at the end cracked me up.

R286 Yes and Kit only named indie films and plays. Joe is going more commercial with Marvel. They already have very different career trajectories.

Honestly, which one of you fraus is AJ?

R287 It reminds me of some HS promo where he got extremely proud of himself for saying something like "The only thing that should stop...is your heart!"

Funny how the troll is the most unhinged when Kit or Joe achieve another milestone

R286 Probably true in most cases, but that cunt group of Carly, Jess, Isa, etc are all passive aggressive Joe antis

R291 They got nothing to be happy with considering who they stan, so not surprised.

R291 She's going to be unhinged forever, they basically take turns booking crazy shit.

The announcement video for R+J hit 1.5 million views and is at 316k likes.

R293 According to IMDB, Joe has nothing upcoming. Is he now unemployed like Bash? Ironic

Vision Quest in the fall.

Don't know why you set yourself up calling Joe unemployed. Do you honestly think he won't get another project soon. Surely there are better ways to spend your time shitposting.

R295 Rumors R296 According to this thread’s definition of work, he will be unemployed. He hasn’t booked anything.

He has an on-going Marvel contract and is currently on Broadway, I need for you to not be a complete fucking moron for once in your pathetic life.

People tried the same “unemployed” shit with Kit and then he booked a DreamWorks film, an A24 film, and his Broadway debut back-to-back-to-back. Some of you will never learn.

R298 Will be unemployed meaning in the near future. Marvel has been canceling projects left and right, I wouldn’t bet on that as proof. Simply going by your own metrics.

R299 Kit always said he had things coming up. When asked in that podcast, Joe didn’t allude to anything.

Talking about unemployment. Does Tobie plan on making a living out of Joe's fans acting like they gaf about him just bc he sucks up to Joe?

R302 I can’t help but think everything they say is in a way passive aggressive towards Kit. They were never this overjoyed when Kit posted Joe. Joe has some weird fans.

R303 why would they be? That person is a Joe stan.

R304 Thanks for admitting they have a hatred for Kit.

R305 do I need to post all the Kit stans currently tweeting Rachel is the best thing to ever happen to hstwt? They sure sound passive aggressive. I thought it was okay to have favourites?

R306 Didn’t they do the same with Olivia? Weren’t they over the moon excited when Joe booked Sweeney? You don’t have a point.

R307 no, they did not. There are more than 10 fans, you know that right?

I will say, I do feel like some of the Kit and Rachel tweets might be trying to get a like/RT from Rachel in the same way some tweets try to get Tobie's attention. But in Rachel's case, she's probably used to it from her own fanbase since they know she's extremely online. Some stans directly @ her.

R309 i honestly don’t care why they do it. It’s pretty clear that a section of Kit’s base finally has someone that they can relate to and many are being shady about it. A single tweet from a snotty Joe stan doesn’t really compare to the 100s of tweets that can be interpreted as passive aggressive towards Joe in the last three days including by big accounts. But no one has posted them here because people have faves. If someone is truly a cunt like the theatre bitches go for it, but if you are looking for hidden shade in an emoji, consider how you are spending your time

R310 Or they are happy because he got cast in a big project? It’s ridiculous to compare the excitement of Kit fans over a very recent announcement versus the tweets of Joe stans.

R310 This one did give me pause in terms of coming off like Kit wouldn't be flustered by Joe. I'm excited for the play but will find it eyeroll-worthy if that type of comparison between love interests becomes the norm.

R311 you cannot tell me they would be like this if Kit was doing the gay monk movie (RIP) with Manu. I’ll leave it at that

R312 she is one of the ones who should really be concerned about the point it starts looking homophobic. That whole group should - because many have crossed it

R312 1) Rachel is a gorgeous girl 2) The fact that they’re bringing Joe into this is the problem. This isn’t about him.

R313 Yes they would? There’s a tiktok of Kit and Timothee talking at a Loewe show with millions of views.

R312 There are always going to be pockets of weirdos that are going to do that kind of thing, unfortunately. There’s a group of Joe stans that keep trying to hype Miles up to be shady about Kit. It wouldn’t shock me if there are some Kit stans that are going to use Rachel to be weird about Joe, though I think it’s more likely they’ll be weird about Maia.

R315 I think the point being made here is that sometimes, in the well-meaning effort to show support for female love interests like Rachel and Maia, people can veer towards homophobia even if they don't mean to. Sure, the other person didn't have to bring up Joe, but the original poster didn't have to insinuate that Joe couldn't get Kit nervous like Rachel could. Regardless of intent, it can read awkwardly.

IMO this just gets into the broader issue of how fandom defending a man's bisexuality is sometimes more about defending M/F than it ever is about M/M, but that's a whole other discussion.

R317 The Joe-shading Kit/Maia stans absolutely already exist, yeah.

Since Joe refollowed Rachel and hyped up the announcement, including a cute comment exchange with Rachel herself, I'm hopeful that'll curb any weirdness. Joe and Rachel are pretty similar in some ways, too, not just the obvious like being in Sondheim musicals, but getting a lot of big roles for their first jobs after growing up doing theatre.

R318 Well, you should bring up real examples of it. I’ve seen biphobic comments where hs fans say they don’t want to see Kit in a straight role or be with someone other than Joe.

R316 tt is a completely different base and you and I both know exactly who I’m talking about

R318 exactly this.

R319 all the KitMaia stans don’t like Joe and are blatant about it. They are actually some of the worst at the moment, which is hilarious

R320 where?

Also, don’t think most of the “best thing to happen to Twitter” comments are meant to be shady about Joe, I think they’re celebrating that she’s going to provide Kit content given that he’s chronically offline and she documents her entire life pretty thoroughly.

R321 All over Tiktok and Instagram.

R322 if a tweet about liking Tobie is interpreted as being shady to Kit I think applying the same lens to 100 tweets talking about Rachel being the best thing that’s happened can too.

R323 are you not the person who just asked for evidence? I have seen that one screenshot one of the morons above brought to twitter, from a 14 year old Kit stan (it wasn’t about Joe it was Kit and any woman lbr). As you are so fond of pointing out - Tt doesn’t like Joe

R320 Never claimed the other side of it doesn't happen. That's why I mentioned it being a broader issue, by which I mean: not even specific to Kit and HS fandom, but bisexual men in general (real or fictional). To combat that biphobia, people can fall into the other extreme of downplaying a bi guy's attraction to men, that's all. The claim that someone like Kit would never find Joe attractive has been a thing since Heartstopper dropped, so I don't blame people being on guard about it when it comes to Kit having female love interests. Which doesn't justify any hate towards those female love interests, so don't get it twisted.

R322 Yeah, I don't see that as Joe shade at all and honestly haven't seen much I'd consider Joe shade just yet. I linked the tweet thread above in R312 but am willing to give the person the benefit of the doubt.

R324 Your tweet didn’t show any real homophobic comment? like R322 said

R324 I would interpret that Tobie tweet and the tweet at R312 as potentially shady because I’m pretty sure both of those people been posted here before for being weird about Kit/Joe, but a lot of those Rachel tweets are coming from normal(ish) fans. A lot of the tweets hyping up Tobie and Joe’s friendship are coming from normal fans, too.

R325 The fact that Kit has to find Joe attractive or he’s not really bi (I’ve seen Mary say that) is bonkers. I’ve never seen fans even mention Joe being attracted to Kit like that. Obviously, they have great chemistry and such but at the end of the day they are actors.

R327 Always the double standard.

R328 I'm talking about the hate towards Joe under the lens of their Heartstopper characters, not about Kit finding Joe attractive in real life. Literally people who from Day 1 have called Heartstopper unrealistic because of the idea that someone who looks like Nick (Kit) would be attracted to someone who looks like Charlie (Joe). It's not "Kit isn't bi if he's not into Joe in real life", it's "Joe has received hate for his looks for years" and that's just one example of how it's been spread.

R329 Really don’t see how my comment shows a double standard when the point is that context matters. Think you’re reading what you want to read.

R331 Kit fans are absolutely being shady, but ofc they you’re selling it as them being enthusiastic. Kit fans are shady daily about Joe, so much so, no one even bothers to bring it here for sheer volume. A single tweet about Tobie and, all Joe fans are arseholes. I read it how you wrote it

R332 You’re being oversensitive and projecting. I said that context matters and both the Joe and Kit stans that were linked up thread have a history. I then said that a lot of Kit and Joe/Tobie stans are being honestly enthusiastic. I never even implied that all Joe fans are assholes.

R332 That’s just not true. Kit fans are many things but on hstwt, Joe stans are absolutely the shadiest and the less slick about it.

R334 we know more about them because they are brought here all the time. The people who bully Joe on Twitter are all Kit stans bffr

Did everyone try the chicken? I thought the chicken was lovely.

R335 If we can agree that Kit stans on tiktok are horrible idk why we can’t admit that most of Joe stans on twt are shady.

R337 did we agree?

R338 You’re being pedantic

R336 Iconic gif. Let’s remember Joe took this photo

R339 not really. On scale and volume Kit stans are overwhelmingly bigger arseholes. It’s just not discussed here because at some point fan behaviour became wrongly attributed to the guys themselves (as the Joe trolls here always demonstrate). Again, it is Kit stans who regularly tweet about Joe’s appearance. No one brings it here but lbr we know where it’s coming from

R341 You’re being dense. We were talking about hstwt not random gays on twitter. And we’re not talking about the whole fandom as a whole. It’s weird that you’re ready to talk about Kit’s fans being horrible but you don’t want to admit that Joe stans or that specific group we were discussing can be just shady.

R342 I think how shady a small group of Joe fans are has been discussed ad nauseam. Kit stans have been getting a pass here for years and they have showing their colours fully the last few days. Enthusiasm my arse

R343 The way the same small group of Joe stans are brought up here, the same small group of Kit stans are brought up here. Crunchy, Gecko, all of those people.

R343 They can be excited about Rachel. It’s not shade towards Joe. Saying that when Rachel received actual hate because she plays Kit’s romantic partner is crazy.

Apparently Bash is headed back to the community theater in Chichester as part of a play about The Rolling Stones. Need Joe or Kit to be cast in The Beatles movie(s) for maximum comedic effect.

So just curious but are all the actors in sync with their character's sexuality?

Is the bisexual character played by a bisexual actor?

Are the gay characters played by gay actors?

Are the straight characters played by straight actors?

Is the trans character played by a trans actor?

Is the asexual character played by an asexual actor?

We understood your original question.

R347 Not in all cases. The actor that plays Darcy is bi, the actor that plays Isaac is gay, the sexualities of the actors that play Tao and Tara are unknown.

R345 the double standard. They can be excited but that’s not what these “hstwt” fans are (and okay, I’ll just call them out), that May girl, Noor, chlo and Rose (grouped because change your pfp), new arsehole ceeje (who has weirdly has decided the teenage girls are the group on hstwt he wants to be in witb), and every single broadway bitch who immediately finally were able to give up the pretence of stanning Joe (Isa were you at Joe’s first show? Nope. Did you care until it was clear others were pretending to) particularly that Jess girl who never hid how much she disliked Joe anyway. Through a mixture of homophobia and just not liking Joe have been shady as fuck since the R&J announcement.

And where was all the care about Joe being shat on for being Kit’s romantic partner? That Ella Joe-anti literally posted an edit the other day where Joe had been replaced with nicholas galitzine and ceeje commented how he loved it. Come on, the last three days has just finally given all of them the opportunity to voice what they really think

R350 There’s no double standard in this situation. Bring up something that actually is shady like when they said Kit should be in Marvel but again, saying Joe stans on twt are shady shouldn’t be that big of a deal.

R351 there is so much and much of it just proving their homophobia. But Kit stans are always considered perfect here with maybe two exceptions but all Joe stans have malicious intent. No wonder this forum created the Joe hating trolls - you write it for them. 90% of hstwt should just change their pfp from Joe, take his name and the leaves out of their bio, and just be real. It would surely be more enjoyable than pretending they care about him or the show - they’re so bad at it anyway, those Broadway cunts have spent the last three months critiquing every step he made on the stage and every note out of his mouth. They could just own it now. And as we know you bitches read this - Isa, Kit needs to get a restraining order out on you before he gets there, you stalking creep

R352 That’s not true. People complain about Kit stans all the time. There is definitely a big crowd on Twitter that prefers Joe to Kit and it’s fine like that Rei person and Char person. A lot of them are shady just like a lot Kit stans are shady.

R353 do they - Where? Because all I’ve seen here for months have been people (you but also normal anons) bitching about Joe and his stans. Also, Rei yes, but Char and similar accounts like Arlie are just Kit stans trying really hard to look like Joe stans for whatever bizarre reason. The speed at which they jump to Kit’s defence while completely ignoring all the hate Joe gets always outs them. Push comes to shove, as shown this week, “hstwt” doesn’t really exist, they are Kit stans, and that’s great for them. As someone who is actually a fan of Joe’s I’m going to point out where they should change their pfp (Rose, Chlo, Carly, Isa) and stop pretending to be fans of Joe at all as they can barely string two kind words together about him and are often actively cunts (Jess, ceeje, Sadie, Aj). Gecko and his poisonous mates just ignore Joe and that frankly makes them far less shitbags than these fake bitches

A lot of the people you’re citing as examples of Kit stans are also weird about Kit.

R354 They’re not Kit stans especially Char. If you want to bitch about shady Kit stans then bring up the tweets. Don’t wait until someone brings up shady tweets by some Joe stans to say something back. That’s stupid.

Is this the Char person you guys are referencing?

R357 okay yeah, yikes. I’ll take the L on that. I don’t think they’re a Joe stan either but that’s fucking awful. Fuck them

I think Kit is more into women and his next roll will be off the charts in terms of chemistry.

R359 Open up the schools.

R355 they are doing too much. You only have to read their last 1000 tweets to see how positively obsessed they are with Kit. Their 15 minute interaction with Joe was boiled down to 10 tweets mostly about Joe’s sweeny cast mates, they sat next to Kit and said three whole sentences to him and it resulted in a bizarre intrusive 35 tweet thread. They constantly shade Joe’s performances and have been obsessively tweeting about going to R&J’s opening night, their bizarre stalkery excitement about Kit being in the same city as them (run Kit), etc. They throw in a tweet like that to mask what obsessive bizarre Kit stans they are

r359, role

R359 who are you trying to bait with that?

R359 Honestly, there is nothing wrong if he is but nothing suggests that. I didn’t know where you guys are getting this. We don’t know much about his dating life.

I think all of these assholes like the clout and notoriety the fandom affords more than anything. They’ll go in whatever direction the fandom is swaying. They were all suddenly Sweeney fans when Joe started Broadway, they’ll all be Shakespearean scholars when tickets go on sale for Romeo and Juliet. They’ll be Marvel stans in the fall.

R361 They’re not secret Kit stans. They’re just weirdo Joe stans.

R366 huge Joe stan. What a load of shit

R366 another example of them being a fan of Joe’s. Also, run Kit, they’re a fucking stalker

R367 Half their tweets are about Joe, Charlie or Sweeney. Their whole profile is about Joe. That fake lesbian girl sometimes tweets about Joe but she’s still a Kit stan.

And honestly, this is pure shade. Doesn’t even care if Joe attends the show but literally bought a second ticket to Sweeney on the day they had already attended the matinee because they saw Kit was in town. They stan Joe while he’s on Broadway (if stanning is constantly talking about how much better everyone who has played Tobie is). The switch up is clear

R369 as I said, they stan Joe while he’s on Broadway and they are in proximity to him. The way they swung back to Kit and were suddenly a Rachel fan was laughably quick. Anyway, it’s always been obvious how little they like Joe. No one runs down his performances that much is actually a fan

R371 Just because they’re a weirdo doesn’t make them a secret Kit stan. One look at their profile and you know they’re a Joe stan.

R372 you mean the way they constantly shit on him but talk about how wonderful Kit is? We have different definitions of fans

R373 Yes, they’re weird and still a joe stan. That’s basically all of hstwt. Crunchy comes to mind.

R374 they were getting qrtw for shit because of all their stalker Kit, immediate jump to R&J. I will guarantee you, come August that person will no longer be pretending to stan Joe

Hey babe! If you’re so thoroughly unbothered why tweet about it? Btw, your tweet the other day shitting on the way Joe stands didn’t go unnoticed. It’s always been called cute before but good on you for making it another way to be a cunt to him. Also, I’m concerned you’ve never met a gay man before and you’re not aware making fun of the way we present is pretty homophobic. Hope that helps!

Why the fuck is a thread about a heartwarming show about first gay love devolving into an obsessive re-posting of some nobody's tweets on Twitter? Who the FUCK cares? Get a fucking life!

Sorry I dgaf what pfp you’re hiding behind or that you went to Sweeney - this is crystal clear. All the “Joe stans” that haven’t tweeted about him in days either, how about you switch to those pfp

R377 rather than bitching start a chat?

So that new comer is a troll right!

That new TSwift lyric "You know how to ball, I know Aristotle" is everywhere and I can't unsee that it technically fits Nick and Charlie since Charlie is a big Classics nerd.

R377 No idea why it gets like this. I believe it is just a few fans/trolls with multiple accounts who then argue with each other over silly crap. I have some on ignore so their posts won't show and I do not have to read them. You might also appreciate the ignore option as well over time.

But there are a few of us are on here because we just like the show and want to support the performers.

tidbits...

R383

Thanks

Also someone met Kit in Covent Garden , and got his autograph

It looks like Joe is following two less accounts, anyone know if he unfollowed anyone interesting?

Someone who deactivated main and finsta

So, looks like we're getting season 2 Nick hair in season 3. Again. Damn. LOL!!!

(Long live the superior S1 hair...)

R385, get a fucking life. Jesus.

R388 You’re a self-admitted 60+ year-old that’s said he’s a loser who is going to die alone, perhaps look within.

At least I don't obsess over who unliked someone else's insta. Jesus fucking Christ, just kill yourself if you're that lost and shallow and stupid.

R387 hi…… we’re some new pic released please

Were some new set pics released

R391 correcting my typos

R346 Laughing at Bash for booking an acting job in one of England’s biggest theatre while Joe is gonna be unemployed in 2 weeks is odd. You should focus that energy on hoping your fave can book gigs consistently.

[quote] one of England’s biggest theatre

It's not. And I know you aren't bragging about a play in Chichester LMAO!!!!!!

R394 Seems like you don’t know Chichester has multiple theaters.

Joe’s IG story.

R395 Girl it's in the main theatre, which has a reasonable capacity, but the tickets are cheap as hell, it's not on West end and they are blocking off half the seats. It doesn't take much to look it up you moron.. It's fine, but Joe and Kit are on Broadway. Stay in your lane and stop getting Bash dragged for no reason. And I don't even like the guy anymore, but there's no need for this shit. All you do it increase hate on him.

[388] isn't it through these sought of observations that we have pieced together different connections / disconnections over the last two years? Why so angry? Thanks [385].

R397 Good luck with that attitude. Actors that are that selective and pompous rarely work consistently.

You you’re the one who brought up Bash’s new gig, unprovoked because again you’re obsessed with him. Next time you want to laugh at an actor with a very strong work ethic make sure your fave isn’t on the verge of being unemployed.

R393 Joe made it to Broadway and his performance was well-received, so he’ll have offers for more Broadway and West End shows in the future. Bash is stuck outside of London. No dice for you on this one.

R398 That person is old as dirt, so I’m not surprised that they’re completely clueless to the significance of social media stuff. Hell, just recently we figured Kit and Rachel were working on something together months before the announcement due to social media.

Warfare stuff. Need them to post footage from the boot camp.

Hot. Gonna miss all the Sweeney content.

R400 I didn't bring up shit.

And very strong work ethic = working on a play for a month in 5 months.

Fit_photograph537 on reddit is being a cunt and talking shit about Kit’s haircut. Maybe you should worry about your ugly self first.

Joe’s looking hot in his ig story and bts we’ve been getting of him from the Sweeney cast has been great. Who cares if he’s working or not the next few months, he deserves a break! So, Kit’s movie boot camp means he’s gonna look pretty buff and hot in uniform! I actually cannot not wait to see his military haircut, it’ll just accentuate his looks more! My suggestion is to block the troll and the various accounts they spawn, they’re camped out here and obsessed with being a cunt about Joe and sometimes kit bc no one gives a fuck about whoever they stan/fan/like! It’s the same back and forth on repeat for years and it’s boring, they’re boring! The best thing to do is ignore and forget their existence! Up to you though!

R405 No one is camped out here anymore frau. The thread is dead and you losers had to bring up Bash because there is nothing to talk about with your faves.

R406 but you brought him up? You responded to a post from days ago. You’ve posted in between now and then. You’re completely obsessed with Joe and really unwell. It’s giving Baby Reindeer

what is she talking about?

R408 Guess

R407 Bitch who brought up Bash to begin with? I know you're slow af but don't act dumb in addition.

R410 literally three days ago. As I said you’ve posted since then. Get help

R411 Bitch, go crawl back to the private group you made to talk about a 20 year old actor like the obsessive creep you are. Freak.

R412 really, before it escalates to something out of your capabilities to pull yourself back from, you really should try and turn it around by seeking professional help. Looking across all the energy you’re expending on abusing, harassing and threatening Joe it might be too late, but I hope not simply because I worry about the physical danger that you finally completely snapping may mean for him or any of the other guys. Help really is available and you should access it

R413 You really think you have any authority on calling out obsessive behavior when you're checking who your fav follows on IG like a creep? This is honestly hilarious.

Some of you boomers have no business posting in this thread to begin with.

R414 I’m a stan not a stalker. Feel free to get in the last word but I’m truly trying to speak to any sense you have left. Wouldn’t being free of this be better? Wouldn’t not expending all your energy on abusing and harassing someone be liberating? I’m genuinely suggesting to try some introspection before this is escalates to a place you can’t return from. I’ve never seen this level of systemic bullying and harassment and it’s truly dangerous for all involved

R416 You're a weirdo freak and a retard. You're confused and deranged. Get help.

R417 it’s pretty clear by your rage at this behaviour being called out for what it is, that you know how bad this has gotten. Please reach out to someone

R418 You're cosplaying therapist talk on an anonymous forum for gays. You need to reevaluate your life and fast.

R419 you're camped out here to respond to days-old posts when no one has taken your bait on anything else. You have multiple accounts here and honestly, you and I both know that's just the tip of the iceberg. I'm not a therapist, nor am I even remotely trying to sound like one, but I am someone who has watched you unravel over time to a really worrying point. Nothing good comes of this for anyone.

R420 You're obsessive hatred toward Bash is worrying. You should really think about why Bash is causing so much irrational hatred from you. Nothing good comes from this much hatred.

Could the obsessive stalkers who have no life so they live vicariously through the actors and their social media habits start their own thread for these crap? And leave the rest of us to actually discuss the show, the characters, the writing, etc, without your histrionic and mean-spirited bashing of actors you'll never meet and who will never know you're alive?

Are you guys this miserable because Kit is getting fat/looking a mess and Joe is soon unemployed and going strong with his decrepit boyfriend? Just leave Bash's name out of this thread.

R423 but this is exactly what I'm talking about. Double posting to no one, being abusive about the boys for no reason. It's really disturbing. Get some sleep, call a friend.

R424 Girl, this is DL. I really worry about you if you take anything on this site seriously. Can you tell the difference between real life and internet bullshit?

R422 i can't imagine wanting to discussing Alice's "writing" other than to call it shit.

R426 Yeah, the show is wholesome and cute but there isn't much to talk about. These threads have always been about the cast who are far more interesting.

R425 I know exactly where I am. People unravel on the internet and that has happened, bizarrely considering the forum, here. It however reaches well beyond here and I’m not going to indulge it as harmless anymore. It’s several steps past that

R423 You seriously don't know what unemployed even means. Going from a lead role in a hit TV show and then two weeks later working on your Broadway debut to great success for 5 months, and now having two shows coming out in the fall and maybe taking a break (which he might not even do for long) is not unemployment. Your fav's community theatre play doesn't even start until the fall either and all he's done is work on a movie for a couple months, a radio play and an unsold TV show for a week since his 2 minutes of work on HS S2.

R423 It's hilarious that you think you have a leg to stand on. Bash is a failure. He's ugly, his hairline is going to shit, he can't seem to maintain basic hygiene, his movie bombed, his relationship with his most recent rent-a-twink collapsed after the first time they spent any significant amount of time together, his Chichester play was middling and never sold out or transferred, and his next one is going to suffer the same fate. He has no upward momentum. He went from Chichester play to Chichester play. He couldn't even make it Off-West End. Joe's finishing up a run on Broadway he was universally praised for, has a show coming out where he worked with people like Kathryn Hahn and Patti LuPone (who loved him), and has a contract with one of the biggest entertainment companies in the world. Kit's not fat, but even if he was he's currently in military boot camp prepping for a film from one of the most, if not the most, respected indie film brands in the world with a renowned director and is following that up with his Broadway debut. You can't compete when you don't compare.

R428 No, you don't know where you are. If you did, you would know your place. Absolutely worrying that you think you have any moral high ground on this thread. Please, take your own advice and seek help. This is getting weird.

Calling Kit fat is laughable, unless you're taking about his fat juicy ass

R422 You’ve been a poster in these threads for what, a week? Shut the fuck up.

R430

R431 know my place? No one can even figure out why you are here. Look what you’ve done - set Bash up yet again. As you can’t take on advice you’re clearly in need of intervention before you hurt someone

R434 Road House is the only hit on that list.

R432 His jawline is nowhere to be seen. R435 Sure babe. The asylum is calling.

Hideous.

We need a term stronger than twink death. That head shape is fucking unnatural.

R438 Doesn't change the fact that Kit is looking a mess and can't keep up his physique. You should pray that boot camp helps with that.

r438, He's a young man of considerable means, he can't make the effort to whiten his grotesque teeth? unhirable, unless for voice work.

R434 It's a real hit in Angola

R433 Yeah, sorry to the new poster but Alice is the biggest hypocrite. She shits on heartstopper while using it to sell all her mediocre books. Instead of working on making it better and writing better material for Joe and Kit, she wants to act as if she is too good for it. And all the while, she's using her fans to sell more repackaged versions of the heartstopper books. She's never supporting Joe or Kit publicly either.

The funny thing is that there was a viral tweet the other day about Kit and Rachel that was similar to the one about Bash and Charithra, the one where everyone called Bash hideous? Except only maybe 4 or 5 of the quote tweets were negative about Kit versus every single of the Bash ones that was dragging him for being hideous and basic.

R441 Would argue that he's not even hirable for that, his voice is so nasal and grating.

R442 He's really made it!

R443 It's surprising to me that she hasn't sold the adaptation rights to anything else after Heartstopper, I wonder if no one is biting.

R44 Unhirrable would be Joe dear. He should fix his teeth and fix his eyebrows.

r444, certainly for the voice of a mutant rodent.

People are very excited for Kit and Rachel. It’ll be funny to see the complete non-reaction Bash’s thing will inevitably receive in comparison.

R446 "Unhireable" when it took a single role for Joe to eclipse Bash's entire career is crazy. The closest Bash will ever get to Broadway is if they hire him as an usher.

R448 People were also excited for Taylor's new album and it was disastrously bad and everyone is blaming Jack Antonoff. R449 When your fave has more than 2 working credits on IMDB you'll have a point.

R450 Fave has 24 credits with 5 upcoming. What now about your yellow-toothed, assless, jawless, bird-faced unemployed fave?

R451 Fave is on the starmeter list with a 'flopping movie'. What is your point? Kit is still chubby and looking a mess.

I don't even like Taylor Swift, but you thinking that stan war'd viral tweets mean that her album is disastrously bad is hysterical. Her album is at an 84 on Metacritic (meaning universal critical acclaim, for the uncultured) and Hits Daily Double has the album opening with north of 2 million units. Frau is so fucking stupid.

R452 I didn't even think to look at IMDb, he didn't manage to go top 100 with a brand new movie? Jesus Christ. A bomb, like everything else he's done that isn't Heartstopper. That ugly-ass bitch really is destined for failure.

R454 Meanwhile Joe was never on it. The goal post always moves which is hilarious. Gonna have to keep moving it.

R455 Joe and Kit have both been Top 100. Can't say the same for your assless fave.

Meanwhile Joe is on Broadway. Not sure why you do this to yourself. Bash's career can't compare to Joe and Kit's, even you know that deep down in your demented mind

Bash has a show coming out this wee—wait, hold on…

R457 Kit is still on it and he isn't on Broadway. No one cares about Joe. Bash was on it when he did his 'community theater play'.

R458 Joe has a project booked after Sweeney... oh wait. He doesn't.

R460 you spent months dragging Kit for being unemployed and that bit you so deeply in the arse I’m surprised you didn’t die of sepsis.

R460 So just checking, you think he's never working again? And won't ever get hired for another project. That's the hill you are dying on? Good luck. Gonna be fun when something new is announced as always

R462 Isn't that what you keep saying about Bash? That he is a failure despite booking work after work?

R461 You've spent months shitting on Bash. I'm surprised you haven't died from bipolar psychosis.

He’s a failure because of the type of work he’s booking, hon. Especially compared to Kit and Joe.

R463 Nope. Never said he'd never get hired for anything else since I'm not a moron. He'll get bit parts here and there. Though again, comparing Joe and Kit's careers and Bash's in insane and not sure why you set him up by comparing him to them. Compare him to Tobie or Cormac or something if you want to be shady.

R465 Glad only you basement losers think he's a failure. I'll pray poor Joe finds work soon.

R466 You're not a moron but you want to compare Bash with Tobie? Bash with a movie out, 2 TV shows in post-production and a play on the way? Why are you setting yourself up frau?

R467 Because nobody else thinks about him at all. It's fucking hysterical that his 5 fans figured out his next failure of a gig and there's been literally 0 noise about it. Have seen no discussion of it at all. Nobody cares.

R469 If he's a failure and no one cares about him, why is he trending on the starmeter list? Why is his movie number 2 on Prime? You keep setting yourself up. You sound stupid.

He’s not trending on the Starmeter list, for one.

R471 The green arrow means he is trending.

R472 No, it means his position rose from the previous week. Read this very slowly: up means rise, down means fall.

This thread defines toxic fandom. It's a wonder any actor ever wants to do a show like this.

Ugh. Y'all are terrible, horrible failures of human beings.

R473 That means he is trending if he's going up, dummy. Go back to school.

The people who are actually trending by definition on IMDb are in the top 100. Bash has never been trending on there. Ever.

R476 Joe*

R477 Has been Top 100 before, unlike Bash. And he will be again when Agatha comes out. Bash can continue to enjoy scraping into the Top 500 at best, though!

R477 Joe and Kit were both in the Top 100 after Season 1 was released. Bash has never made the Top 100, not even with his "hit" 22% Rotten, 2.1 on Letterboxd movie.

R478 He's in the 2,400's. Top 500 is too kind

Literally been on broadway, filmed a Marvel show, been on numerous well known podcasts, daytime tv shows and still not on that list at all. No one cares about Joe. You’re setting him up so badly.

R481 Boy do I have news for you when IMDb refreshes in the morning LOL

R482 Sure. Anyway, can’t wait to see the goal post move again.

There are no goalposts since Joe/Kit and Bash aren't in competition in any way career wise. Both are so far above him, one after only 2 years of work, despite Bash having all the privilege in the world, it's not a fair competition, which is what we are trying to tell you to stop setting him up. You hate Bash more than anyone here tbh

R482 do you have something new that isn't known about or are you just talking about whatever Netflix will do in the next 12 hours?

Once again pleading with everyone to block the troll! Imagine no one on the thread interacting or engaging with the troll, it’d be great! Troll you keep saying don’t talk about bash… okay done mate! Make your own thread about him?! Boomer, make your own thread, if you don’t want to talk about the cast and keep it strictly heartstopper, stop being an asshole! 2024 is huge for Joe and Kit. Kit has a huge project coming out with wild robot, the release of hs s3, filming A24 and his broadway debut! Joe has had an amazing 3 months on broadway, was on GBBO, and has a marvel show and hs s3. Joe is an absolute work horse there’s no way he’s gonna be doing nothing for the next few months! I’m not sure why troll thinks they’re getting the upper hand saying kit has been unemployed and joes soon going to be, so what! Good for them! I want to add Will and his band are having an absolutely dream run of concerts doing openings for Tom Odell and Laufey!

R484 You can try as you’ve been trying for months to say Bash is a failure and irrelevant. Please, go ahead and waste your time that way if you wish. He’s still going to get booked and going to fashion shows and getting consistent acting work as he’s been doing for the past decade. Good luck to you since you seem to only stan Kit and Joe because they’re on Broadway or getting big projects. If you really think that’s gonna keep happening throughout their whole career you’re gonna get a rude awakening.

Keep telling yourself that.

R489 Oh, anyone with common sense knows there are ups and downs in this business. Keep being delusional.

R485 No, I don't have any news on projects. I was talking about Starmeter positions.

R491 Idk why you keep bringing that up when the whole point is that Joe isn’t on it and he’s had far more visibility than Bash recently. You don’t really like Joe if you keep setting him up like this.

R490 "Ups and downs" implies ups and Bash hasn't had any. Stuck in Chichester doing shitty, unremarkable runs of shows only geriatrics see.

R492 He's on it, you stupid bitch, can you not read?

R492 lmao, far more visibility? He’s on Broadway not on an Amazon released mainstream movie that had international press lined up for them and flopped so badly Bash can’t even crack the top 200 off all of that. He’s poison now

R495 Hopefully Bashy tell his sick guard dogs to chill out since she's responding to him on IG telling him Joe is going to KHS and she'll get revenge for him.

R495 Mind you Joe can't model to save his life.

R494 He did a press run for his Broadway debut and did a bunch of interviews/magazine shoots. All you're doing is proving that no one cares about Joe because he has far more public visibility than Bash.

R496 Most likely has that nutjob blocked just like Joe has those hateful Bash haters blocked. Still not convinced it's not one of you weirdos.

And it's actually insane how disturbed they are about this one loser but when it's Yaz or Kit that gets death threats or hate daily they are all quiet. Bash has to be responsible but Joe never has to do anything about all of his fans harassing and hating Bash on twitter. Disgusting.

Don't pretend to give a shit about Kit and Yaz

R498 Good lord you are fucking stupid. Do you think people are checking for a Today show interview 2 months ago or Jesse's podcast.

R500 you actually serious? Your mate or you is in every post of Joe is tagged in by an official account telling him to khs. Every single post. For weeks now. You need help if you think this is okay

R497 Girl please sit this one out. Nobody wants anyone to repost some of Bash's "modeling" attempts. I just had breakfast

R502 Bash has 2M followers but your dumb self think he only has 5 fans and one of them is doing this when it's obviously someone who wants to tarnish Bash's name. It's not my fault you lack common sense.

R504 tarnish Bash’s name? He’s only mentioned in a handful of posts most of the time. Usually it’s about Joe khs and sucking dick to get Charlie (at 16 no less). It’s you and you need to get help before you hurt someone

R505 That weirdo talks about karma and what not with Bash's name in it. You really think it's not obvious bait to have the heartstopper fans even more raged about Bash? It's not a real fan of his. Anyone with a brain can see that.

R506 as I’ve already said, you barely mention Bash most of the time you sociopath. Just enough that you can make a statement like this. You’re heading down such a dark path, I hope you seek help

Is the troll here the same one on ig? Bc the obsessed commenting on the Netflix hs posts are fucking embarrassing! Like so much second hand embarrassment from the trolls comments! I actually agree with the twt comments someone needs to say something!

R507 You're so weird. After shitting on Bash for hours you decide to say this? You are projecting to new levels and it's bizarre. Get the help you need because this is beyond unhinged.

R508 they are. Just act crazier there but same arguments and syntax. It’s obvious

R509 there is more than one person on this thread. I’ve not been here for hours but I was telling you to seek help earlier and I truly mean it. It’s been funny watching you unspool but it’s getting concerning now

R510 Praying for you. You'll get out of this psychosis.

Will they be allowed to have sex this season?

R512 they do

The rating has changed for s3 to a M

Hand jobs, blow jobs, rim jobs...it's happening in s3.

Nick not knowing how hickey's work to knowing what a rim job is is kind of character growth I respect

R508 Probably. And Netflix's posts isn't even the worst that person has done. She was leaving comments about Joe sucking dick on a cancer charity page

R517 You lot haven't found a way to doxx them yet? You found out about Joe's non-public boyfriend and made a separate group to talk about it like creeps.

R517 If they all blocked her would we still see her comments? I'm wondering because it's all one person with different usernames and very easy to spot. Couldn't NetflixUK block her?

R518 No we haven't figured out your name yet but eventually someone will as the other person keeps warning you

R520 Except you won't because it's not me or any of the frau Bash fans on Twitter. No one has ever called him 'Bashyy' either. It's a troll and you're wasting your time arguing here instead of helping in any way. Useless.

R521 You know it is, stop lying. Psycho

Moron.

R522 Are you one of the trolls on Twitter that have been harassing Bash nonstop for months then?

Come to think of it, that troll appeared when Kit was getting heavily harassed on Twitter by the queerbaiting group. This thread was focused mainly on Kit and some were tired of it and tired that Joe wasn't the center of attention. And OOP, that Bash troll appeared. I have been on these threads for a long time and that troll wasn't there at that time. It's obvious bait to get Bash more hate. Everyone here has been obsessively invested in hating on Bash, even made fake AI voice notes of Kit to shit on Bash. Completely unhinged behavior. It's definitely one of you freaks.

Concocting elaborate theories when everyone knows it’s a Bash stan, what a loser. Bet it’s you. You’re protesting too much.

R526 Nah it’s def you. Even Marys aren’t using Joe’s name to harass Kit because they’re real haters. That Bash troll always talk about avenging Bash and she only talks about stuff coming from here.

Speaking of unhinged trolls with a penchant for multiple accounts, here's a fun game: Fraulein or infinitecandies/joebashcandies?

“Gays love bash and Netflix knows it."

“The way some joe stans are acting on the datalounge heartstopper thread shows how common untreated mental illness is. Seek help, dataloungers.”

Trick question, perhaps...

RIP Kit’s hair.

The idea of someone having some elaborate plot to get Bash hate, like he's important enough for that, when half of hstwt despise him (who are the people you should actually be fighting, not ruining this thread) and the other half don't know he exists is hilarious

[quote] I have been here a long time

On which account girl since the one you are talking with is brand new. DL threads have never focused more on Kit than Joe either.

R523 Amazing how she's always fucking wrong

R530 Now who’s defensive? Go back old threads and look when that troll showed up for the first time. Right when Kit’s friends were getting harassed and some posters said Joe’s hate wasn’t as bad. Just then, that troll showed up. Hell of a coincidence.

The troll showed up right after someone said they were coming to DL to avenge Bash and defend him and ruin the threads (your comment to that Ills cunt) and got angry this thread no longer kissed his non-existent ass.

R533 And when was that? The troll came out right when Mary and co were sending hate dms to Kit’s friends and it blew up. A big argument occurred here because Joe stans can’t stand when Joe isn’t the only one receiving hate.

R529 Some fans are having full on meltdowns over this.

Literally every. single. one. of the main Bash stan accounts calls him Bashy. Stop with the gaslighting and the obvious red herring attempts. Nobody here buys your bs. The walls are closing in and the other Bash stans you thought would support your crazy harassment want no part of it. YOU were the one who posted on this very thread that maybe it’ll stop when one of them kills themselves. And you have an entire history of unhinged tweets and DL posts. Across multiple accounts, of course. The only response you deserve from DLers is to be told you’re a fucking psycho.

R536 The only thing you deserve is a psychiatric evaluation. Go to instagram and GO harass that troll over there.

The ig troll sounds like a bot. They repeat the same things over and over again.

Even the Bash stans are calling out that troll. It’s obviously not them.

He seems like a complete loser, is he always on babysitting duty when Joe’s friends visit?

R540 Healthy is debatable. Only Joe can answer that maybe in a couple years. They do look like any gay couple I know.

What's the point of hiding posts about him now? You guys look like puritans or homophobes atp.

R539 no one said it’s them. We said it’s you

Such a long wait!! I’ll have to watch the last season again to even remember what happened. Did they fuck finally ?

R545 I'm not and I've never threatened Joe's life or said any of the dumb stuff that troll says on here. And it's anon here, it would make more sense to say it here if I was that nutjob. I think you need someone to blame and you go the easy way out. In that case, you're admitting you guys are all the fraus hating Bash on twitter? You say all the same things about Bash as them.

Shut the fuck up already.

R547 It does make sense because they always bring hstwt drama over here.

Doesn't replying to yourself get tedious? No one has ever said Bash should khs here but you have said repeatedly that death threats to Joe are nbd. Seek help, it's genuinely concerning for everyone's safety.

R550 Have never and have never made death threats but posters on this thread have said 'kys' to me and others repeatedly. Think about your ow deranged comments before you talk because looking at that history, you have more in common with the troll than me.

R551 you have repeatedly threaten Joe’s career, said death threats towards him are fine, tried to put him offside with fans by using here as a way to lie about him. The gaslighting isn’t going to work. Everyone can see the history of the two accounts you are currently replying from.

Joe stans/posters in this thread: KYS, Bash is a drug addict cheater who abuses workers and he looks deformed. He should die! Same posters: Seek help because it's very concerning for everyone's safety

You are the Instagram troll. It’s obvious and everyone knows it. Bash fans trying to make him the victim in this is actually the only funny part of the situation. They can’t even not lie about what is physically written on Instagram. Again I’m deeply worried about everyone’s safety and hope you access help

From twt to ig to dl to cc, everyone knows the troll is the same person on every platform! Sad, pathetic, miserable, obsessed, loser, who is genuinely so embarrassing and very obviously mentally disturbed!

R553 you can’t roll us into one and absolutely no one has said he should die ever. I hope all the lurkers have watched Baby Reindeer because that’s what is happening here. If you know who she is your should report her to the police

R554 You are the fraus on Twitter. I knew everyone on this site was right. There are only middle-aged women in this thread. You should be concerned with your mental health because you are obsessively invested in a gay man's life to the point of it being homophobic.

R557 The way they act about Joe's boyfriend is a dead giveaway. Clutching their pearls and everything.

R557 jibberish

R556 No one said Joe should die here ever either. Why don't you go back to Twitter? Pretending to be a gay man must be exhausting with all that homophobic hatred.

You are the same person. Your history shows that. How are you still replying to yourself like an absolute lunatic? We have told you repeated the first post where you opened the third account you are replying from is visible. You are a very unwell woman.

R560 there is only one blatant homophobic woman on this thread and it’s you.

R553 why are you acting like you aren't flat out disgusting about Joe constantly calling him inbred and giggling at any "hit" tweets you can find that are nasty towards him, and also saying your favorite phrase "face card declines!11!" among other shit. Your projection and narcissistic personality disorder are unreal

R561 Girl, you are the homophobic woman who comes here and deletes posts whenever Joe's boyfriend is mentioned because you hate the reality of gay men. Our lives are not all rainbows like the show you're obsessed over.

R553 Also enjoy how people who have met him saying he was a douche is suddenly our fault and us repeating untrue things.

R565 Yeah because less than 5 random people on twitter with no profile picture count more than all the countless fans who only have nice things to say about Bash. Everyone can pull up negative tweets about this cast.

Someone who married off Bash at the age of 22 with his boyfriend of 2 months and called them husbands who eat pasta together and constantly bragged about how he had settled down and shamed a 20 year old for not doing the same does not have the right to call anyone a frau

Using the vernacular of gay men doesn’t hide who you. It’s also very likely there are fans out there who know who you are and I would implore them that this is well past the point of normal trolling.

Lurkers, I’m not asking you to expose them online but if you know who they are you should report them to police before it escalates. Remember you are able to report people in different countries to you

R566 Wrong again as usual

[quote] they shot some of this where i live last summer, these guys and the majority of the cast would come into the restaurant where i work on an evening and they were absolute pains. especially Croft who begged for a table when we had finished serving

R569 So this one person is right but all the hundred others who met Bash and said nice things aren't? You create lies and manipulate the truth and you've been doing it for months. Joe doesn't hate Bash. You can stop. Go back to Twitter and leave this place. It's not for you. R568 Yes, please do. If you know who the troll is, expose them and put us all out of our misery.

R570 how funny it’s going to be when they do and you and your other two current accounts go silent. Its getting pretty out of control now - I imagine the consequences for the last 8 months will actually be pretty significant

R571 Don't care anymore frau. You can stop. I'm telling everyone to expose this troll. This person is fucked in the head. Idc enough about any celebrity to waste my time on instagram like that. I hope whatever loser who hates Bash and Joe to this extent to do this will get what they deserve.

I really hope they catch that troll because unlike some, I am certain it's the freak who posted the AI voice notes of Kit.

R572 i actually almost feel sorry for you. It must take so much energy and you must have to make yourself believe so many lies. I’m sure you’ll be exposed soon and at least then you’ll have to face what you’ve been putting actual real human through. I guess now we just wait

R572 You of all people saying you don't care enough about any celeb to do what you are doing here on multiple accounts is a choice. Also stop trying to act like Bash is a victim in the situation. Cunt

R574 You're way too condescending to the point of it being very suspicious mate. It's very concerning actually.

R575 You can't say this while being on this thread and the private group

R576 not a word you write makes sense

R578

A 30 second look at the person lecturing us about trolls and being mean to her Bashy. This is also just one of her many accounts here

[quote] I wasn't looking for anything and I found a tiktok calling Joe ugly because he gets those on the regular. Sad.

[quote] With those big ass ears, the monobrow and his inbred looking face? Please. No wonder he gets hit tweets calling him ugly every day. He doesn't do anything to help himself. Anyways. The gays love it. All that matters.

[quote] Doesn't matter. Bash clears Joe any day. Joe's face card will always decline

[quote] Babe, the only men that want to touch your inbred looking twink is men that are 20 years older. Cry about it.

[quote] Kit needs to sort himself out. Don't let Joe's ugly twink death get to you.

[quote] Lmao I wouldn’t be so bold when my fave just had another hit tweet calling him ugly. Anyway. Bash looks hot.

[quote] People are calling Joe ugly because they find him ugly. It has nothing to do with him being gay or a twink. A lot of skinny gays are not catching strays like that.

[quote] Even if we see Joe do that ugly cry he did in season 1 again, it's not going to get him an Emmy. He has a better chance with the therapist sessions and they were moved into Season 3. I don't know why you losers are still complaining

[quote] Lmao fraus in this thread about to have a mental breakdown because people on the internet don’t find Joe attractive. Sorry but if you’re a Joe stan, you’ll have to fight the ugly allegations forever

[quote] Lmao I wouldn’t be so bold when my fave just had another hit tweet calling him ugly. Anyway. Bash looks hot.

[quote] Saying that when Joe just had a hit tweet calling him ugly is a choice.

[quote] Either way, Joe is not in that conversation. Twink death already got him.

[quote] Joe’s twink death at 20 doesn’t help with that.

[quote] Tell your fave to book therapy sessions and modeling sessions although don’t think there’s much he can do. Tragic twink death.

[quote] Sad. Severe twink death at 20 is tough.

[quote] Need hair oil cause that hairline is struggling. Too late for Joe, twink death got him violently.

[quote] Severe twink death.

R580 ?

Not sure what's so hard to understand. The person whining that she's not the IG troll and doesn't care about any celeb enough to make constant nasty comments has multiple accounts here (that she pays for) to make nasty comments about Joe?

Lmao - sorry R580 that was for R579 whose bizarre link clearly through me off. You post is top notch

R580 Some of the greatest hits: 'Why does it look like his face is melting off?'

'What the hell did Bash do to this twink?'

'Bash looks like a drug addict'

'The only type of catch Bash is involves a mouse trap. Rat-looking fuck.'

'The transphobia must make the Bash stan feel right at home.'

'You cry every time someone mentions your rat-faced fave.'

'Bash cheated.'

'You should kill yourself'

R580 'Guess the patchy hairline?'

'Big Douche Face?'

'Rookie numbers. Maybe next time, balding, greasy, ass-less flop.'

'Balding, enormous beak, no jaw, no ass, greasy as hell, can't keep a twink or a job to save his life, can't cook, can't act, has the worst stylist working today. Sad'

R584 they never said anything about themselves, just pointed to your hypocrisy. If you kept it here it would be annoying and has destroyed the thread but whatever, but you are across all sm harassing Joe. It’s out of hand

The person that is trying to sound like a therapist and telling people to 'seek help'.

R586 You do the same frau. That's the point. Who's to say you're not the troll? I said I want them to be exposed because I know it's one of you. You've set up Bash and his fans in the most idiotic way. Only one of you could do that.

R588 You set up Bash more than anyone be for real

R588 you have harassed and bullied Joe for months. Sent him death threats, camp out on every post he's tagged in to say he got Charlie because of the casting couch (which, what are you saying about the production?), saying he should khs, commenting on charitable pages that he sucks dick to get on Broadway (again, whose? who are you accusing of what) and GBBO. Then you come here to say Bash has it as badly. You are untethered from reality.

R590 Why don't you go on Instagram and DM the troll this? That would actually be productive. R589 Be serious. You bring up Bash all the time because you're always looking for a fight.

R591 why would I when I can address you directly here?

R592 You're wasting your time but you do you.

Trying to act like a handful of bitchy gays making comments about Bash’s appearance or incredibly mediocre career on an obscure forum is in any way comparable to a psychotic frau making 20+ accounts following Joe, his friends, his coworkers into the comment sections of everything from a cancer charity to a baking show to say that he sucks dick for parts and should kill himself is deranged. No one goes on Bash’s social media and says ANYTHING to him, meanwhile the frau has physically sent shit to the Sweeney Todd stage door. You have actual fucking brain damage to either be making this argument or to be entertaining it.

R594 Trying to act like a catty gay making fun of Joe's looks and career on an anonymous forum is equivalent to a troll on a different platform wishing physical harm on him is hysteric and idiotic. Like I said, if you want to be productive, go on instagram and dm/report that troll

If you had one account sure, you'd just be an annoying cunt but you admit to having multiple accounts and have been doing this shit for half a year. You literally pay to be nasty to Joe on multiple accounts. It's not insane you have free multiple accounts other places too. And no, talking on reddit about the guys about things you and the lurkers have made us unable to discuss publicly and talking here about the guys is not the same thing.

I honestly hope the troll is caught and shut down! It’s actually so bad on ig with comments, it’s stalker behaviour!

R595 we do report you, and then I come here to really encourage you to get help. By exposing yourself here at least we have some way to directly address you about how serious your actions on other sm sites is. If you were just a cunt here then whatever, but you are clearly all the same person

R598 Again frau, go to the site where these death threats and violent threats are happening. You truly are wasting your time coming here and accusing me. I do hope you catch the troll because I fear for your mental health.

well you could go to where the main Bash haters are, twitter, I can give you names of the people who have been trashing him for two years who cancelled Joe for defending Bash from bullying.