“Wicked: Part One” trailer is here!

Will Kristin, Idina or Adele Dazeem be making a cameo?

Please don't let them cas....... FUCK

R2 is there a problem?

how many notes will be sung scaled (gospelized) for culture sake?

white woman good? Black woman bad? Is that this film? I don't remember that from the play.

It underwhelmed me. Very stilted acting. No rush of emotion, Erivo looks too old. She should be playing Morrible, nor Elfie,

Black woman? The character is Green.

As usual, they're trying to hide it's a musical.

They're apparently using an older teenage girl to play Dorothy, like in the 1939 film, rather than a much younger girl like in the 1900 Baum novel and the Maguire novel and (or so it is implied) in the stage adaptation.

Isn't Dorothy supposed to be a middle-aged woman? She just should be!

Yuck, it has that same video game look that Oz the Great and Powerful had. Even the painted backgrounds of the 1939 looked more realistic.

Cynthia Erivo's average acting will sink another film. Sad.

Funny how r10 thinks Erivo will be the weak link in a film that has Ariana Grande

Would have preferred a non musical version closer to the book. I’m hoping a lot of the elements left out of the stage show are put in seeing as it is a two parter.

Ariana looks like shit with that white blond hair and weird WTF she has done to her face.

That "Wicked" trailer is..."okay, whatever". Cynthia Erivo looks great, but I must confess Ariana Grande's physical appearance (and the makeup design that highlighted it) had me Googling the symptons of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome. I never realized how wide-set her eyes are.

Ariana looks sick. People keep saying she looks beautiful. I do not agree.

Yikes, Cynthia looks 20 years older than Arianna. And I'm sure some MAGAts will think it's a lesbian love story.

I didn't know it opens the same day as Moana 2. This could be a disaster.

It doesn’t sound like she hits the F in Defying Gravity. What’s the point, then?

I see that Ariana Grande has decided she is white again.

The riff at the end did not sound good. First you hide it's a musical then that's the only moment you put in? There is one note YOU HAVE TO HIT in Wicked, and as they show in the trailer she can't hit it. Hopefully in the actual film she does, because hitting that high note is what Wicked is best known for.

Just looks like another Alice in Wonderland type CGI movie. So ugly.

A 38 year old woman is playing the “young” wicked witch. Uh ok.

r20, *Everyone* knows it's a musical.

Is everything filmed in front of a green screen these days? It is so saturated in CGI, I dare new movies to have one prosthetic character or set design.

This is why I enjoyed the Dungeons and Dragons movie, it meshed fantastic practical effects with CGI.

R23 And yet you wouldn’t know it from watching this trailer. They took a page out of the Mean Girls/Wonka playbook.

It's like this trailer was constructed specifically for me, with the singular goal of making me avoid seeing it.

I’m annoyed. Trying fo stay positive, but it looks like they yet again fucked this up behind the overthought motivations of our times.

I’m annoyed. Trying to stay positive, but it looks like they yet again fucked this up behind the overthought motivations of our times.

Mean Girls and Wonka don't have the Wicked cachet, r25.

So... diverse.

Ariana Albino looks like a Make-A-Wish cancer kid. Is Glinda supposed to have leukemia in this version? Whoever told her to bleach her eyebrows obviously hates her. Even Chenoweth kept her dark eyebrows when she originated this part.

[quote]I’m annoyed. Trying to stay positive, but it looks like they yet again fucked this up behind the overthought motivations of our times.

Are you that much a fan of the piece, r28?

It's sad, I can see how good a movie this production could have been with better casting.

This looks every bit as hideous as that James Franco monstrosity. CGI is a scourge - all one need do is revisit the 1939 original to see what magic can be created with practical sets.

I hate everything here OTHER than Goldblum as the Wizard. Now that’s inspired casting.

Elphaba is supposed to be young and attractive, but green. She's not supposed to be like this, old, ugly and green. I guess maybe it doesn't matter to gay Fiyero.

What’s weird is that in the trailer, the train looks like the biggest CGI outlay of all. Why build a practical effect if you’re going to mask it behind CGI?

Oh, just get super-stoned and see it on the biggest screen you can.

Should have cast Britney and Christina

Ariana looks horrific holy hell! The blond hair clashes with her skin tone, and she looks ill and gaunt.

Should have cast Liza and Goldie.

Vanity Fair First Look.

R42 Why do they both look so awful? I like the individual pieces, but together... No.

Arianna looks like a 60 year old woman trying to pass for 30 with extensive work done.

[quote]Vanity Fair First Look.

Looks like two drag queens at Sardis.

Cynthia Erivo’s shrieking at the end reminds me of when Fergie sang the National Anthem.

Ariana’s dress makes me hungry for prosciutto.

It just looks... I dunno, garish? There's an unpleasant sheen to it.

Remember how everyone criticized Cats when the first trailer was released? Look how that turned out.

Keep hope alive for Jonathan!

I'm surprised the bitchers and complainers haven't yet noticed Michelle Yeoh as Madame Morrible.

I get that they needed Ariana because of her name and recording success but it could sink the movie. Dove Cameron was said to be the runner up and I agree that the studio wasn't going to risk her carrying a big and risky project. I always thought Anna Kendrick was going to play Elphaba. I wonder if she auditioned.

R18 that's exactly what I thought!

The whole point of Wicked is that one, singular note that very few singers can hit and every single person watching waits for.

If Marc Platt is the exec. producer, how did we avoid Ben Platt as Fiyero?

Ben Platt will be playing the very important role of Nessarose.

Everyone's favorite ugly hunky midget Ethan Slater will be playing Boq, of course, which is how he met Ariana.

Question- Did they CGI Erivo's face throughout the entire thing to make her appear younger? Her face looks unnatural. I swear in some shots it looks like it's hovering over her head. I feel like I'm watching an AI Elphaba.

Cynthia Erivo is possibly the most talented singer/actress to come out of broadway in 20 years. I can’t wait for her Elphaba.

R51 they don’t need Ariana for her name for a movie. Pop stars in films almost always flop. Very few do well or attract big audiences.

R58, going way, way back, Paramount insisted on a recording star to play Sandy in Grease because they had a big part of the soundtrack. And of course there was no better choice than ONJ.

Now THIS is how you do a movie poster! One of the best of the last 10 years.

[quote]going way, way back, Paramount insisted on a recording star to play Sandy in Grease because they had a big part of the soundtrack. And of course there was no better choice than ONJ.

Today you'd get Nicki Minaj.

r60 Looks like an homage to "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World."

The excessive digital effects look ghastly. It's like Oz the Great and Powerful Part 2.

R59 ONJ was also an actress though. Grease wasn’t her first movie. And there are a lot more examples proving me than proving you.

[quote] Pop stars in films almost always flop. Very few do well or attract big audiences.

Lady Gaga in "A Star is Born"

Elvis Presley in "Jailhouse Rock" and "Blue Hawaii" and many more

The Beatles in "A Hard Day's Night" and "Help!"

Jennifer Lopez in "Selena," "Out of Sight," "Maid in Manhattan," etc.

Whitney Houston in "The Bodyguard"

Barbra Streisand in "Funny Girl," "The Way We Were," "A Star is Born," etc.

Cher in "Moonstruck," "Mask," etc.

Frank Sinatra in "From Here to Eternity," "The Man with the Golden Arm," etc.

Eminem in "8 Mile"

[quote] Cynthia Erivo is possibly the most talented singer/actress to come out of broadway in 20 years

Sweetie, even if that were true, it's a low, low, LOW bar.

R65, I think the poster was talking about more modern times. And some of your examples are a bit disingenuous.

According to the set designer, the sets for Wicked are the third largest sets ever built for a motion picture, only behind Ben Hur and Cleopatra with Elizabeth Taylor. They planted 9 million real tulips to bloom at just the right time, and actually built a lake for some of the scenes.

The set designer is Nathan Crowley, who is Christopher Nolan's set designer. He also happens to be the grandson of famed witch Alistair Crowley. So, he knows a thing or two about witches.

R65 half you mentioned were ACTORS as well as singers. Not the same as Britney Spears in Crossroads or Madonna. J Lo? Selena came out in 1997. Her debut single came out in 1999. At least TRY to know what you’re talking about fag.

R67 his examples don’t apply to the topic at all.

Ariana looks like an Armenian woman with yellow hair from a bad bleach job.

r69is a nasty homophobe. F&F.

Ariana looks like an albino in the trailer.

R72 I’m gay babes.

[quote] R59 ONJ was also an actress though. Grease wasn’t her first movie. And there are a lot more examples proving me than proving you.

Yes, because that's what it's ALL about, you being right on the DL. You must be so beaten down and kicked on a daily basis in real life that this is the only place where you can pretend you have some sort of superiority. Please allow me to burst that bubble, too.

You don't.

(Also, if you're counting Toomorrow as some sort of acting resume for ONJ, then you're a real dummy.)

R61, actually, you'd get Taylor but I get what you're saying.

I'll reserve judgement until I see it. But it looks really good. I love things like this.

I've always felt the book was the best thing about the show. The score is unmemorable, at best. I first saw it in the fall of 2004. Cheno had just left, but Jennifer Laura Thompson, of whom I'm a big fan, had stepped into the role of Glinda and did a great job. I was underwhelmed by everything but the set and the book, and I thought Iscreama was particularly terrible.

Saw it again right after the theaters opened back up post-pandemic. A friend of mine was going on as a stand-by in one of the big roles and I wanted to see her. I have to say I enjoyed the show so much more this time, even though there was no one else in it who I was familiar with, and I think it was because of the energy they brought to it, being so grateful to be back onstage after a year and a half. They really gave it their all. I was surprised at how much better I thought the show was.

I cannot stand Erivo. Very hard to look at.

Are those CGI lips?

Grande’s look reminds me of poor Brittany Murphy when she went an ugly shade of blonde and looked malnourished.

Did Erivo really piss the Broadway community off with her Twitter comments about the Great Comet? Maybe she has better PR management now.

Oh, I'm sure she'll put her hoof in her mouth again before the film is released.

I want to like this, but it indeed does look like a video game… shocking (Mary!) that the 2 seconds of singing included was gospelizing flat singing of one of the most famous notes/moments in modern Broadway history.

It looks like a screen saver.

The "greenface" is offensive.

I will see it for my darling Jonty.

Well, I think we can conclude that middle-aged and older white gay men are not the target market for this film.

I'll just say Stephen Schwartz is very lucky that his mediocrity is getting a major buffer from a beloved, successful franchise that attracted and excellent production team.

I thought this was better than I expected. I love Wicked, I’ve been waiting for a movie for years. I wasn’t thrilled with the casting (bar Jonny Bailey, I think he’s brilliant & bang on for Fiyero) but overall, it looks quite promising! Visually, it’s quite cool. But then I’m not a movie geek, don’t know what people are whinging about it feeling ‘flat’?!

My only gripe is WHY are they trying to hide it’s a musical?! It’s one of the biggest musicals of all time. Celebrate it, don’t put two tiny clips of music in the trailer!

Can’t stand Erivo. Everything about her irritates me. Ariana Grande is truly awful and visibly cross eyed. This will tank because of these two charisma free lumps.

Oh well, we always have the movie version of Merrily We Roll Along to look forward to.

It won't tank, r90, because emo teenaged girls and theatre queen kids everywhere love Wicked. It's also a family movie with no sex or violence that parents would take their kids to.

I’m not a fan of the aesthetic of the Broadway show or really even the Wizard of Oz so wasn’t expecting to like the visuals. I am, however, surprised by how much I hate this casting. As someone mentioned above, you need to believe that Elphaba is young and vibrant and pretty, despite being green. Erivo just looks wrong. No matter her talents, she is not right for the role, something that used to matter.

So happy so see they've diversity-casted this wonderful play! *giggle*

[...]

“In The Heights” was seen by what, three people? Why did they give this enormous property to this totally unproven and unknown director? Bizarre.

Studios are so afraid of musicals, despite the fact that they ruled the box office and awards for decades, they’ll give anyone who has a glancing interest in them a huge project which is well outside the scope of their abilities.

That’s not saying much R57. She couldn’t even compare to LaChanze in Color Purple. I don’t think anyone other than you is waiting for Erivo’s interpretation with bated breath.

Wow, you all weren't kidding. What the fuck was that riff? Hopefully they are saving the real riff for the film, because that was abysmal.

the scream of pain at the end must be from the scene where she melts.

I was annoyed by her social media antics during The Great Comet, but Erivo was a revelation in The Color Purple revival. She completely erased any memory of LaChanze - hell, Fantasia did that when she replaced her in the original run.

Also the big note in Defying Gravity isn’t in the “war cry” riff at the end, it’s the F in the final refrain.

[quote]Oh well, we always have the movie version of Merrily We Roll Along to look forward to.

Not all of us.

[quote]The set designer is Nathan Crowley, who is Christopher Nolan's set designer. He also happens to be the grandson of famed witch Alistair Crowley. So, he knows a thing or two about witches.

No comment.

And hopefully no relation.

Stephen Schwartz:

"Those two young women, Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande, are absolute world-class singers. They are such talented singing actresses. I think what they are bringing musically to the film is incredibly exciting. I’m just thrilled about it"

[quote]I cannot stand Erivo. Very hard to look at.

And she has resting smug face. Very punchable. Nobody is going to root for that.

The CGI in that still is horrendous. This is another Jon M. Chu crapfest. How does he keep getting work? Oh, right, DEI. The banks cut the checks.

Of course white gays will jerk themselves off to this because of diversity.

[quote]And she has resting smug face. Very punchable. Nobody is going to root for that.

You'd be surprised.

This film feels about10 years late. And why did production on it take two or three years? You spent that much time on THAT?

Was production delayed due to covid?

What do you expect from the guy who directed “Jen and the Holograms”?

*Jem

[quote] Of course white gays will jerk themselves off to this because of diversity.

This one isn’t. Seeing diversity hire Bowen Yang makes me sick. Also, I expect the lead women to be pretty. Elephaba is just plain old and ugly and Glinda looks like a freak.

I am not someone who wants to hate on everything. I would really like to like this. Sadly, it seems like they made a few insurmountable mistakes.

Just typing "racism on DL" so this is searchable.

R68 Holy shit, at 300m this is going to be a game-changing level of flop. Casting, theme, timing, reactions, it seems like everything is building up against this.

Bowen Yang is in this? Oh man, instant flop.

[quote]everything is building up against this.

I think the opposite will be true, r115.

I think Part One will be a decent hit, but then people will have had sufficient—and Part Two will bomb badly.

[quote] Well, I think we can conclude that middle-aged and older white gay men are not the target market for this film.

Dumb move. With all the risks of bringing a musical to the screen, at least building in a gay audience ensures a movie with a loyal following, repeated views, and one that gets reevaluated over time.

Bad casting - disastrous. This is going to be a stinker.

How much did the CGI cost to whiten Ethan Slater's disgusting teeth?

Who would you have cast, r120?

I'll wait until I can watch them back to back.

Ariana is fine. Erivo is too old. How hard is it to find a young black actress who can sing? Or why did it have to be Erivo? Was it promised it her(ten years ago) or something? She looks even older standing next to childlike Ariana Grande. Big mistake, huge.

None of them look college aged. Aged, yes. College, no.

Sad haters on this site. Tine will tell, I predict massive hit. Are the bigots ob this site mad because they cast a black woman to play a green woman?

ESL, R126?

This film should never have been made. Total shit.

And.

More woke garbage. Black girl is the victim. White girl the enemy, white guy a criminal.

She's green, r130. You sound retarted.

Apparently the original ruby slippers from the Wizard of Oz were used for Wicked.

There were several pairs of ruby slippers, r132.

[quote]None of them look college aged. Aged, yes. College, no.

Finally the pressure is off us.

[quote]More woke garbage. Black girl is the victim. White girl the enemy, white guy a criminal.

Clearly, you didn't read the book or see the show, as the white girl is the best friend, not the enemy.

The white guy wasn't much better in the original movie if you think about it.

I will aver that it really gives a whole new meaning to "person of color" in this case.

Poor r130 he’ll probably just come out with more racist crap now.

[quote]I will aver that it really gives a whole new meaning to "person of color" in this case.

No, r135, it really doesn't.

Part 1?

Part 1, r138.

If the audience can sit through it on one night on Broadway, was does the movie need to be in two parts?

[quote]was does the movie need to be in two parts?

Two parts = more $$$

How long is the show?

Everyone is so unpleasant to look at. Even the people in the crowd scenes.

And who wants to look at a green Cynthia Erivo? The original is bad enough.

Rumors that they're worried and it's been proposed to go back to one movie.

[quote]R135: Clearly, you didn't read the book or see the show, as the white girl is the best friend, not the enemy.

It's more complicated than that. Elphaba and Glinda became friends in school, but subsequently their lives and their aims diverged: Elphaba became a terrorist, and Glinda became something of an instrument of the Wizard. After the arrival of Dorothy Gale (and Glinda's giving her Nessarose's shoes), Elphaba ceased to be friends with Glinda.

[quote]Erivo is too old. How hard is it to find a young black actress who can sing?

It should have been Blue Ivy.

r144

I hope that's true... it should have never been 2 parts with a year in-between

r129 And

The amazing Alice Fearn is playing Ariana Grande's mother. Her voice is just insane.

The movie poster is pretty good. That’s about it.

[quote]None of them look college aged. Aged, yes. College, no.

What's wrong with that?

[quote] Thirtysomething Streisand and Redford in THE WAY WE WERE

Yes, but they played their characters from college age into their 30s. That's totally different.

But you knew that.

[quote] Two parts = more $$$

Just the opposite. They’re already trying to cover up that it’s a musical. Musicals don’t sell.

[quote] The movie poster is pretty good.

It’s a rip-off of the X-Files posted about.

Stupid fun fact not really relevant to anything: I knew Eden Espinoza (who played Elphaba on Broadway at some point) in junior high and high school. Sweetest thing in the world and a world class singer even then. My older sister is still friends with her.

Who’s the little blonde Asian girl at OP?

This isn’t just DL, R155. The trailer is being eviscerated all across social media. I think a lot of people are disappointed. This seemed like a layup, and maybe it will still pull it off. But there are so many negatives in that trailer alone, it’s hard to see how it does.

Is that Laverne Cox? I haven’t seen the credits. Quite the career jump.

Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande look nothing like Margaret Hamilton and Billie Burke. Dorothy's slippers are the original silver and the Cowardly Lion almost looks like an actual animal from the back. Seeing as how this is yet another unofficial prequel I'm guessing it precedes the books instead of the 1939 masterpiece.

You know Ariana Grande's anorexia, drug usage and bad plastic surgery are really THAT bad if not even all of the best makeup and CGI in Hollywood can completely mask it for what is clearly a huge big budget production.

Also I'm getting pretty fucking sick of Marc Platt and Lin Manuel Miranda practically controlling Broadway.

Both women are wrong for their roles. That’s the long and short of it.

Did Ariana snag a part for her brother? Perhaps one of the Winged Monkeys?

Frankie Grande is playing the important part of Toto.

[quote]R159: Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande look nothing like Margaret Hamilton and Billie Burke. Dorothy's slippers are the original silver and the Cowardly Lion almost looks like an actual animal from the back. Seeing as how this is yet another unofficial prequel I'm guessing it precedes the books instead of the 1939 masterpiece.

On this subject, when posters refer to "the book," they're not talking about anything L Frank Baum wrote. Nor are they referring to 'the 1939 masterpiece.' There's another book series which completely re-imagined this entire storyline, and it began with 𝐖𝐢𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐝: 𝐓𝐡𝐞 𝐋𝐢𝐟𝐞 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐓𝐢𝐦𝐞𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐖𝐢𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐝 𝐖𝐢𝐭𝐜𝐡 𝐨𝐟 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐖𝐞𝐬𝐭 (1995), which led to several sequels and a musical. Comparing it to the 1939 MGM version is a mistake.

Personally, I wish that this was a straight-up adaptation of 'Wicked' the novel rather than the musical, but it is what it is.

Yeah, r163, I don't know what rock Chaos has been living under.

Be kind, R164. I'm just offering him an opportunity to catch up on his own terms.

Years ago, ABC bought the rights to do a non-musical miniseries adaptation of the Gregory Maguire book. Project probably got canned.

They both look so hideous and sickly in the OP.

No one's going to want to watch that.

Especially on the big screen.

And pay for it.

[quote] Cynthia Erivo and Ariana Grande look nothing like Margaret Hamilton and Billie Burke. Dorothy's slippers are the original silver and the Cowardly Lion almost looks like an actual animal from the back. Seeing as how this is yet another unofficial prequel I'm guessing it precedes the books instead of the 1939 masterpiece.

But the Dorothy and the Tin Man in the clip look more like Judy Garland and Jack Haley in the roles than they look like the W. W. Denslow drawings for the original book. So my guess is this film is trying to do homage to both versions. (The stage musical does too--in the Broadway musical, the Silver Shoes are transformed into Ruby Slippers.)

The original Gregory Maguire book on which this film is ultimately based is much more invested in the 1900 L. Frank Baum children's book than it is in the 1939 M-G-M film adaptation.

Wicked will do a billion dollars$$$. The Wonka musical is doing $600 million and it didn't have half the hype of Wicked.

[quote]Rumors that they're worried and it's been proposed to go back to one movie.

Universal is ecstatic with the movies, and it's still 2 movies. The way some of you haters are scrambling is hilarious.

R164 I'm not really into musicals or Broadway. I just don't care for a lot of them. I prefer plays and the opera really.

Now I have thoughts of Margaret Hamilton and Billie Burke lezzing out. Great....

Is any material being added to make it into two movies? I’m assuming the total run time will be four hours between the two movies.

Terrible casting

R173 And your little dog, too!

*cackles*

When someone uses “haters” they lose the debate with me. Looking at you, R171.

I want nothing more than the movies to be fun and strong. But it’s simply true that the casting is strange, at best. No one fits or goes together (Bailey falling for Erivo, green or not? Come on!). And the whole thing looks poorly lit and overly CGIed. Plus that final note? Eek.

It may just be a bad trailer and we all eat crow. I’m heartened by how bad some of the advanced Les Mis footage looked and sounded, and that turned out okay. But pointing out the obvious about this trailer isn’t being a hater. It’s also not a niche position.

R177 Yes, "haters" is a teenage girl/stan term.

It means they are incapable of having a serious conversation about the topic at hand. They just loooooooovvvvvveeeeee that person, no matter what they do (or don't do, as it were).

[quote]They just loooooooovvvvvveeeeee that person

And you have a problem with "haters", r178. Uh huh.

R179 Sorry the concept of "context" is a challenge for you.

The use of "loooooovvvvveeeeeeee" is an indicator of the level of stan behavior and immaturity such a person would possess.

You seem so...invested, r180.

Yikes they both looked homely at CinemaCon

So is the SpongeBob guy in Wicked and that's how met her? Her looks have gone downhill.

Soulless, stilted, overblown, calculated CGI-fest.

I'd like it fail because I can't stand Cynthia Erivo.

Will they fix Ariana’s wonky eye with CGI?

Mark my words. We will be saying EGOT winner Cynthia Erivo by this time next year. She looks FANTASTIC in the new WICKED preview we got. Just hand her the Oscar right now #CinemaCon

Jon M. Chu says Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo's performances in Wicked will be "cherished for decades" #CinemaCon 🫧🧹

Wicked looks absolutely phenomenal in every way. I love that this new footage gave us an extended look at the film which feels like the perfect mixture of the stage play and the source material. Hearing Popular and Defying Gravity sent chills down my spine. #Wicked #CinemaCon

Give Cynthia Erivo her BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS Oscar RIGHT NOW!

WICKED just blew the #CinemaCon audience AWAY! I think it'll do BARBIE numbers tbh...

MISS ARIANA GRANDE you did not have to KILL this role this perfectly!! A queen, the perfect casting!

WICKED is about to DOMINATE the box office!! Wait on it! #CinemaCon

The amount of thought and care put in by everyone working on Wicked is truly impeccable. You can feel how it perfectly captures the complex relationship between Elphaba and Glinda as they are driven apart. The attention to details of every artistic choice is astonishing.

Peter Dinklage will play Dr. Dillamond in WICKED.

[quote] Give Cynthia Erivo her BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS Oscar RIGHT NOW!

Supporting? Supporting??? This woman better hide because Cynthia is gonna come after her like crazy. Cynthia will be put in Best Actress category. If anyone goes supporting, it will be Ariana.

We have a stan in this thread

Ariana Grande is second only to Taylor Swift insofar as biggest pop stars in the world. Ariana will decide if this becomes and iconic thing or not. Since two movies are in the can with the whole show (plus more), Thanksgiving 2024 will decide Turkey Lurky Time.

Apologies for errors, Muriel or whatever decided to post before I had finished editing. Nonetheless, it is what it is.

I’m rooting for it, but I’m still not hopeful. Both leads seem so wrong.

That said, I see no way it’s not a massive hit. Thanksgiving? Kid appeal from a built in IP? Even if the reviews aren’t great, people will still go. Just like the Broadway show, oddly enough (opening night reviews were mixed to negative)

If Cynthia wins the Oscar, she will complete the first legit EGOT since Barbra Streisand. But according to insiders, she and Ariana are going to be in a battle royale for the Oscar.

And the singing? “These are live vocals,” Chu says. “When we were shooting it, those girls were like, ‘Fuck the pre-records. We’re going live.’ ” The director was skeptical. “There’s going to be a lot of wind in your air pipes. Is that okay?” he asked. They didn’t miss a beat: “ ‘Yeah. That’s what we do.’ ”

For “Defying Gravity,” Erivo actually sailed through the Western sky belting high F’s. “She had a harness pulling and pushing and yanking and tugging on every nook and cranny that there is,” says Grande. Her own numbers were no stroll in the park. “I’m literally never going to forget you jumping on a chandelier over my head whilst singing,” Erivo tells her costar. Grande giggles, remembering the stunt. “She was just so excited to perform for her new friend,” she says of Glinda. “She wanted to do a trick.”

But Erivo and Grande forged a relationship that changed them for the better. “I just need to say that I don’t think people realize that she’s got the chops,” says Erivo, grasping Grande’s hand. “I don’t think people realize how brilliant this person’s brain and voice and talent is.” Grande turns away, her eyes welling up.

The vocals may be live but there will be heavy post production polish (autotune to smooth things out) applied to them. Especially on Ariana's end. Singing while wearing a tight and painful harness is not the same as singing comfortably in a studio or singing live on stage.

[quote]These are live vocals,” Chu says. “When we were shooting it, those girls

Girls? Cancel!!!

[quote]Give Cynthia Erivo her BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS Oscar RIGHT NOW!

Yeah, that’s not how it works. You have to get the most votes from Academy members. The Oscars aren’t Affirmative Action anymore since Will Smith.

I am still not over how magical the Wicked trailer is, watching Elphaba come into her powers with major teases of the frenemies dynamic between her and Glinda. Ariana Grande and Cynthia Erivo's voices fit the music SO WELL, a spellbinding epic of emotion.

The tulips changing colors is spectacular!

Why are the posts the same as the Tweets?

Don't know anything about Wicked ( yes one of those DLers who hates musicals) I just want to see how Johnny goes in this. Short clips on you tube will be fine.

Guess I know even less: who's Johnny?

^ Jonathan Bailey from Fellow Travellers.

Ariana Grande looks “special.”

I've never heard of 'Fellow Travelers' either.

Director Jon M. Chu revealed that there's a "five-hour version" of 'WICKED', as of now.

R211, make Google your friend.

I'll look him up on IMDb, TYVM R213.

I know they're going to be glorified extras in Wicked, but I want to know who is playing Dorothy, The Scarecrow, The Tinman and The Cowardly Lion. I can't find the info anywhere. You'd think given how important those characters are in other Oz related media the names of the actors would've been available immediately even if they were little known names.

It should have been Meryl Streep and Cher.

[quote]It should have been Meryl Streep and Cher.

[italic]I'm melting![/italic]

R210, yes. Even for here I feel unkind saying it, but like a preemie who sings. Or one of those new hatchlings that falls out of the nest but doesn't make it.

Who's the inspiration for Johnny Bailey's look? The Bride of Frankenstein? Cruella de Ville ? Sable Colby?

Is this the same Ariana Grande?

Angelina Jolie's vanity project Maleficent somewhat ripped off Wicked. Both are revisionist media that repaint the female villain as an antiheroine whose death was revealed to have been faked at the very end.

Fun interview with Schwartz from last summer. The movie is briefly discussed toward the end.

Ariana Grande looks like Cheri O'Teri in OP's picture

Ariana looks sickly, even though she's not the one who's green.

She's anorexic, her eyes are pinned out and fucked up from drugs and a fox lift. Her hair (without the stupid Madonna Blonde Ambition ponytail extension) is super short, bleached, fried and thinning. Her chin implant is botched resulting in a long pointy witch chin and she's constantly playing the victim and acting like a coquette dainty little Audrey Hepburn-esque Disney type princess when in actuality she is an insufferable rude and selfish bitch who doesn't give a fuck whose life she ruins in order to get what she wants. Then she doubles down and gaslights everyone in order to justify or conceal her actions.

This is gonna bomb.

R226 It's generic CGI laden commercialized dreck adapted from a Broadway musical. It's going to be an absolute hit. Hollywood has always been about quality (money) over quality (art) for the last few decades or so.

I really liked the movies Dreamgirls and Chicago but this doesn't interest me so I guess I will hand in my gay card as I exit left....

R227, musicals don’t sell.

The director is terrible too.

The stage play is 2:45.

They're gonna get roasted for the pretentious of two parts.